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- 0:02Speaker 1: Hey, they're folks. It is Tuesday, September thirtieth. This will
- 0:06Speaker 1: not be an episode full of speculation, but rather sadness.
- 0:11Speaker 1: Welcome to Amy and TJ. I don't necessarily say that
- 0:15Speaker 1: in some sarcastic way. I was truly like, it's certainly shocked,
- 0:21Speaker 1: but it's stung to hear that Nicole Kidman and Keith
- 0:23Speaker 1: Urban were splitting after nineteen years of marriage.
- 0:25Speaker 2: You know, we see their smiling faces. There have been
- 0:29Speaker 2: so many interviews and pictures with them together over the
- 0:33Speaker 2: years that you felt like, my god, they've made it
- 0:36Speaker 2: this far. They've been together for twenty years, married for
- 0:39Speaker 2: nineteen and even as recently as their nineteenth wedding anniversary
- 0:43Speaker 2: on June twenty fifth, it seemed as though everything was good.
- 0:47Speaker 2: And that's the thing, seemed as though no one really
- 0:50Speaker 2: knows what's going on. And even though they're celebrities and
- 0:53Speaker 2: they're beautiful people with lots of money and gorgeous homes
- 0:57Speaker 2: and a beautiful family, they still deal with the same
- 0:59Speaker 2: stuff that everyone else does. And yeah, it's sad when
- 1:04Speaker 2: you see two people who were devoted to one another
- 1:08Speaker 2: decide to part ways. And it may be what's best
- 1:10Speaker 2: for both of them and best for their family in
- 1:13Speaker 2: terms of where they were and are, who knows. But
- 1:16Speaker 2: it's still sad because we all were, without even realizing it,
- 1:20Speaker 2: rooting for them and maybe even comforted by them.
- 1:24Speaker 1: I didn't have to think about them and root for
- 1:26Speaker 1: them because they're just solid. Yeah, they're good. I don't
- 1:28Speaker 1: have to wonder if they're going to make it. This
- 1:30Speaker 1: isn't some new love. They got two kids in they've
- 1:33Speaker 1: actually been through some tough stuff together privately and publicly. Yeah,
- 1:38Speaker 1: they're solid. They're good. And every time I saw them
- 1:40Speaker 1: a picture, every time we had anything to do with her,
- 1:44Speaker 1: and it was just, eh, made you feel good. Oh
- 1:48Speaker 1: that's hey, how y'all doing everything good? Yeah, just kicking
- 1:51Speaker 1: it in Nashville. Everything's cool, like you always. That was
- 1:54Speaker 1: never thought in my mind that there was trouble anywhere.
- 1:57Speaker 2: Yeah. When I think of them and I think of
- 1:59Speaker 2: the pictures of them, they're always holding hands, They're always
- 2:02Speaker 2: touching each other, like physically, you could see their connection
- 2:05Speaker 2: and it seemed I mean it was I'm sure, of
- 2:07Speaker 2: course genuine, but yeah, we never thought to wonder. There
- 2:11Speaker 2: were never any hints or allegations or pictures of you
- 2:15Speaker 2: know he's on tour a lot, she's filming movies in
- 2:18Speaker 2: Fantastic series and winning awards and so.
- 2:21Speaker 3: But they always just seemed good and.
- 2:24Speaker 1: Supportive of each other, very publicly, if it's his red carpet,
- 2:28Speaker 1: her red carpet, music or movies, and even on stage,
- 2:31Speaker 1: they have declared their love in very significant ways. Look,
- 2:35Speaker 1: we never ever know for sure. We're not suggesting just
- 2:38Speaker 1: by a picture or anything else. But when you hear
- 2:40Speaker 1: about two people who made the commitments that they made
- 2:43Speaker 1: to each other, to their family, to moving to Nashville,
- 2:46Speaker 1: they got two both teenage.
- 2:48Speaker 3: Girls, yes, seventeen and fourteen.
- 2:50Speaker 1: Two teenage girls. All these things and not really a
- 2:52Speaker 1: hint of issues. And we're not supposed to I'm not
- 2:55Speaker 1: saying we're supposed to be they were supposed to let
- 2:57Speaker 1: us into their lives in this way, but they did
- 2:59Speaker 1: let into their lives in a lot of ways. And
- 3:01Speaker 1: from what we knew and from what we saw and
- 3:03Speaker 1: from what we were appreciative of, Ah, they made it.
- 3:06Speaker 1: They're even age appropriate, right.
- 3:09Speaker 2: They're one year apart. She's fifty eight, he's fifty seven.
- 3:12Speaker 1: But even in that there's a maturity or respect they have,
- 3:15Speaker 1: right she's had a previous marriage. These are tested people like,
- 3:19Speaker 1: oh they're good now.
- 3:21Speaker 2: Yeah, he went through addiction, credited Nicole for helping him
- 3:25Speaker 2: through that. She's credited him with giving her a safe
- 3:28Speaker 2: home to come back to after she's traveling with these movies.
- 3:32Speaker 3: And you know, that's a tough life.
- 3:34Speaker 2: Anyone who is in that field, and certainly in the
- 3:36Speaker 2: entertainment industry knows you are oftentimes put in different places
- 3:41Speaker 2: around the world from one another. You have massive temptations
- 3:44Speaker 2: with other attractive people in your circles who you're either
- 3:48Speaker 2: on stage with or on film with where you have
- 3:52Speaker 2: romantic love scenes, and you're away from your partner.
- 3:54Speaker 3: No, they went through and got through all of that.
- 3:59Speaker 1: To be here. And again, we spend so much time.
- 4:03Speaker 1: This doesn't feel like it's not right. A celebrity scandalist,
- 4:09Speaker 1: tabloid breakup. This is a shocking, shocking breakup because of
- 4:14Speaker 1: the year's in But.
- 4:16Speaker 2: I do worry that it could become that. Look, I
- 4:19Speaker 2: hope it doesn't. But when you have two people and
- 4:22Speaker 2: by the way, neither Keith Urban nor Nicole Kidman, nor
- 4:26Speaker 2: any of their publicists, managers, etc. People who represent them
- 4:30Speaker 2: have said anything publicly in terms of a statement. We
- 4:35Speaker 2: know that several news organizations have independently confirmed it, so
- 4:39Speaker 2: it is true that they have separated, but we haven't
- 4:42Speaker 2: heard anything from them, And I just hope, but I've
- 4:45Speaker 2: already started to see it online. But I hope that
- 4:48Speaker 2: we will let them, when they're ready, tell their story.
- 4:51Speaker 2: But for everyone else to tell their story for them
- 4:54Speaker 2: is usually what ends up happening, and everyone wants a
- 4:56Speaker 2: bad guy and a good guy. Most people can't handle
- 4:59Speaker 2: or stomach the fact that maybe two people just grew apart,
- 5:02Speaker 2: maybe two people had whatever issue that didn't involve some scandal.
- 5:06Speaker 2: But I do fear, because we have seen this and
- 5:08Speaker 2: we have lived it, that that is what people expect
- 5:11Speaker 2: and almost try to write to almost will it to happen.
- 5:15Speaker 1: They're filling in blanks. They're filling in there's a huge
- 5:19Speaker 1: void of official information, and everybody is talking about it
- 5:23Speaker 1: and interested in it. So what we have experienced and
- 5:26Speaker 1: what you'll be seeing out there is at so many places,
- 5:28Speaker 1: so many outlets are looking to still get you to
- 5:31Speaker 1: watch and click and be interested in a story they
- 5:34Speaker 1: put out, but there's no information. So source says, this
- 5:38Speaker 1: friend close to the couple says this insider says this,
- 5:42Speaker 1: There is a lot of that going on. We wrote,
- 5:45Speaker 1: we discussed it beforehand. I might have pounded the table
- 5:47Speaker 1: when I was talking about it, like, I don't want
- 5:50Speaker 1: to mention a single word here of speculation on what
- 5:54Speaker 1: might have and if this, and whatever else. What we're
- 5:57Speaker 1: telling you is that, yes, several whose outlets have independently
- 6:02Speaker 1: confirmed that these two aren't together. That, folks, is all
- 6:07Speaker 1: that we are willing to say that we know right
- 6:10Speaker 1: this point.
- 6:11Speaker 2: Because the tabloids are already starting to go down that
- 6:13Speaker 2: path and it hasn't even been twenty four hours.
- 6:16Speaker 3: So I fear.
- 6:18Speaker 2: Look, I just we know we've walked down this road.
- 6:21Speaker 2: No matter who you are, no matter how big of
- 6:23Speaker 2: a celebrity you are.
- 6:24Speaker 3: This stuff hurts. And so I actually embracing.
- 6:27Speaker 2: Myself for Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban and their two daughters,
- 6:31Speaker 2: for what may come next, because everyone is going to
- 6:34Speaker 2: want to have a good guy and a bad guy.
- 6:36Speaker 3: They're going to want a reason.
- 6:37Speaker 2: That they can understand that they feel good about that's
- 6:40Speaker 2: for whatever reason makes them feel safe or better than
- 6:43Speaker 2: them in their own relationships. And that is what is
- 6:46Speaker 2: almost certainly going to happen in the next coming hours
- 6:49Speaker 2: and days of the leaks.
- 6:50Speaker 1: But why, I mean, why is it everybody listening, everybody
- 6:54Speaker 1: knows that relationships aren't that simple, that you have a
- 6:59Speaker 1: good guy and a bad guy. Sometimes people grow apart.
- 7:02Speaker 1: There's all kinds of reasons for it. But why is
- 7:04Speaker 1: it that the public are so many in the public
- 7:06Speaker 1: or are we just talking about the folks that yell
- 7:09Speaker 1: the loudest on social media have a problem with it
- 7:11Speaker 1: being just to that and accepting Why does it have
- 7:15Speaker 1: to be more.
- 7:15Speaker 2: White because that's not interesting, because that's not interesting, because
- 7:19Speaker 2: that's not compelling, because that's not something that you would
- 7:21Speaker 2: want to watch on TV or see in a movie.
- 7:24Speaker 2: It's boring. So that's you know, look the j Lo
- 7:27Speaker 2: ben Affleck thing. He even talked about this, that people
- 7:29Speaker 2: wanted some specific thing that they could point to or
- 7:33Speaker 2: say this is why, and he said, sometimes it's boring.
- 7:36Speaker 2: Sometimes it isn't what tabloids want to write, and so
- 7:40Speaker 2: they write something else and they fill in the blanks
- 7:42Speaker 2: and they all they have to say is sources close
- 7:44Speaker 2: to the couple say, insiders say, and they could be
- 7:47Speaker 2: making it up. And that is the truth. Because we
- 7:49Speaker 2: have read so many things about our personal lives that
- 7:52Speaker 2: are completely and patently false that we know no one
- 7:56Speaker 2: close to us would have ever said or told a tabloid,
- 7:59Speaker 2: and yet they can continue to report it.
- 8:01Speaker 3: They make it up based on a picture.
- 8:04Speaker 2: Based on something that they can read into or infer,
- 8:08Speaker 2: and it's simply not the truth.
- 8:10Speaker 1: So they are going to and I'm sure well they
- 8:12Speaker 1: are dealing with. Now. Look, a divorce for a excuse me,
- 8:16Speaker 1: a split, any relationship update for a couple that's been
- 8:19Speaker 1: this public, it's just a difficult time. Look, if you
- 8:21Speaker 1: don't have to deal with the public scrutin of be
- 8:24Speaker 1: any kind are enough, it's difficult. Even if you haven't
- 8:27Speaker 1: been divorced, excuse me, together for nineteen years. You've been
- 8:30Speaker 1: together for two years. A breakup hurts. They got family involved,
- 8:34Speaker 1: kids involved, There's a lot here, and your heart goes
- 8:38Speaker 1: out to him for what's happening. And this was again
- 8:40Speaker 1: we go back to he was raised in Australia but
- 8:44Speaker 1: born in New Zealand. But wait, we look at him.
- 8:46Speaker 1: I see just I forgot he was down.
- 8:49Speaker 2: I completely forgot because you just think of how he
- 8:51Speaker 2: sings his country music.
- 8:53Speaker 1: He's a country music star. Of course he's from Nashville
- 8:56Speaker 1: or Texas or wherever from the south, but that is
- 8:59Speaker 1: the case. They did meet, was it good a USA?
- 9:03Speaker 3: Good a USA galap from It's.
- 9:05Speaker 1: Called the Australian American Association that I hadn't heard of,
- 9:09Speaker 1: but yes, it is what it sounds like, this large
- 9:11Speaker 1: nonprofit that promotes relationship between the US and Australians. They attended.
- 9:15Speaker 1: Obviously that two of.
- 9:16Speaker 3: The biggest stars from Australia here.
- 9:19Speaker 1: They met there and Sparks flew.
- 9:21Speaker 2: I suppose yeah, pretty quickly too, they were they started dating,
- 9:25Speaker 2: they were engaged I guess around a year later, and
- 9:28Speaker 2: married a month after that. So they actually officially got
- 9:31Speaker 2: married I believe in June of two thousand and six.
- 9:34Speaker 3: Correct. I guess it was June twenty fifth, because we
- 9:36Speaker 3: know their anniversary June twenty fifth, two thousand and six.
- 9:39Speaker 1: And nice wedding wasn't as quickly as it I guess
- 9:43Speaker 1: they had it planned already. But they were engaged one month,
- 9:46Speaker 1: married the next. This was a pretty big, extravagant wedding.
- 9:49Speaker 3: In Sydney, Australia.
- 9:50Speaker 1: Yeah, it was nice. Kendall lit some historic estates, so yeah,
- 9:54Speaker 1: it was a big whoope doo.
- 9:56Speaker 2: Yes, and then come along and pretty two daughters, so
- 10:00Speaker 2: oh seventeen and fourteen, so pretty quickly made a family
- 10:04Speaker 2: out of it, and a gorgeous family, a family that
- 10:06Speaker 2: walks the red carpets together, smiling and holding hands. I
- 10:09Speaker 2: think that's another thing, you know, when you only get
- 10:12Speaker 2: and we've talked about this so often, and we can
- 10:14Speaker 2: I can talk about it personally as well, when people
- 10:16Speaker 2: only see your Instagram photos, when they only see the.
- 10:20Speaker 3: Pictures on the Red carpet.
- 10:21Speaker 2: Of course you're smiling, of course you're putting your best
- 10:23Speaker 2: foot forward. Of course you're putting the happy moments out there.
- 10:26Speaker 2: And so we all get this picture, this image that
- 10:28Speaker 2: other people have these perfect marriages and these perfect families
- 10:31Speaker 2: and these perfect relationships, and then we're shocked when we
- 10:34Speaker 2: find out that they're just like us.
- 10:37Speaker 1: We say shot. And again you mentioned the Red carpet pictures.
- 10:41Speaker 1: Theirs are pretty pretty good, a lot of theirs, and
- 10:44Speaker 1: I if you want to start paying attention to Red
- 10:48Speaker 1: carpet pictures, and I don't just do this when people
- 10:50Speaker 1: break up, but if you watch people on red, how
- 10:54Speaker 1: do couples interact when all the cameras and lights are
- 10:59Speaker 1: on them, and when you start paying attention to things,
- 11:01Speaker 1: you see how maybe the woman's head is leaning the
- 11:03Speaker 1: other way, maybe there's a little hint of space between
- 11:06Speaker 1: their shoulders.
- 11:07Speaker 3: They're not touching, arm is.
- 11:08Speaker 1: Around the other. Which direction are they interacting with each other?
- 11:12Speaker 1: When you start paying attention that I have more so
- 11:15Speaker 1: in the past few years to that stuff. Man, you
- 11:19Speaker 1: see little signs. Okay, I see where they're were, Okay.
- 11:22Speaker 1: My point is you don't see that with these two. No,
- 11:26Speaker 1: it's not just smiling and hamming it up for a camera.
- 11:29Speaker 1: You see kind of sometimes in some pictures, obviously not all,
- 11:32Speaker 1: but an embrace, a playfulness. An intimacy is the word
- 11:35Speaker 1: I would use. When they're in front of cameras, everybody's
- 11:38Speaker 1: looking at us, we're still into each other.
- 11:41Speaker 2: I love that there's an intimacy and an authenticy I
- 11:45Speaker 2: can't talk authenticity, thank you that.
- 11:47Speaker 3: I think you can't fake. I mean maybe some people can.
- 11:51Speaker 2: Granted, this is an actor and a performer, so you
- 11:54Speaker 2: know that's silly that I just said that. But I
- 11:55Speaker 2: do think in those moments when the cameras are flashing
- 11:58Speaker 2: and people are calling your names, I don't know, and
- 12:01Speaker 2: you look back, because of course now everyone's going back
- 12:03Speaker 2: through those photos, probably for the reasons you just mentioned.
- 12:06Speaker 2: Look at a sign, yes, but if you look, you know,
- 12:09Speaker 2: just as early as this past spring or last year,
- 12:12Speaker 2: and even the interviews that they gave in the last
- 12:15Speaker 2: year of their relationship, they weren't just saying nice things.
- 12:20Speaker 3: They were gushing.
- 12:21Speaker 2: They were saying, she is the love of my life.
- 12:24Speaker 2: She is the reason why I was put on this
- 12:27Speaker 2: earth to love her very very like he's my soulmate,
- 12:31Speaker 2: like things like that. So yes, of course we all
- 12:33Speaker 2: that that is why it's so shocking. But I would
- 12:36Speaker 2: argue that you can feel like feelings do change and
- 12:40Speaker 2: circumstances do impact. So you could have meant it when
- 12:43Speaker 2: you've said it, but a month later you might not.
- 12:46Speaker 3: Mean it again. You know, that's the reality.
- 12:48Speaker 1: There's a lot of people listening to us in the
- 12:51Speaker 1: cynical like of course they were just putting on And
- 12:54Speaker 1: I hate to be that kind of dismissive. And it's
- 12:56Speaker 1: fine if other folks want to. I just you gotta
- 12:58Speaker 1: believe in something, and this relationship, at least that we
- 13:01Speaker 1: have seen in the past twenty years, I find if
- 13:04Speaker 1: I fell for it, I don't think I did, and
- 13:05Speaker 1: I absolutely believed in it and looked up to it
- 13:09Speaker 1: to a certain degree.
- 13:10Speaker 2: And so I think that's why people are looking for
- 13:12Speaker 2: something dramatic, must have happened. And I think that's where
- 13:15Speaker 2: the speculation and the rumors begin, because they think, if
- 13:17Speaker 2: they were so solid, the only thing that could have
- 13:20Speaker 2: happened is something dramatic, something specific, and it had to
- 13:24Speaker 2: be one of them who did it. And that is
- 13:26Speaker 2: exactly where people go.
- 13:29Speaker 1: We have lived enough life to know that's not how.
- 13:30Speaker 3: It is complicated. It is complex. It was most likely
- 13:34Speaker 3: years in the making.
- 13:36Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, what was the I can't remember another one,
- 13:40Speaker 1: but al Gore tip was it forty years? They were Rember.
- 13:44Speaker 2: I never believed that kiss. Oh that kiss was ridiculous, say.
- 13:47Speaker 1: Terrible example, because that was the first image that came
- 13:51Speaker 1: to your mind.
- 13:51Speaker 3: That's a fake kiss.
- 13:53Speaker 1: Okay, but that was him al Gore. But yes, he
- 13:56Speaker 1: even kisses stiffly, I.
- 13:59Speaker 3: Mean, or it wasn't received with warmth either.
- 14:02Speaker 1: Way, Come on you anyway. My point means that was
- 14:07Speaker 1: another shakra of people who had been through so much
- 14:09Speaker 1: in life, it seemed, and now all of a sudden
- 14:11Speaker 1: we decided we don't want to be together, that's okay.
- 14:13Speaker 1: There was a lot of discussion about relationships after that one.
- 14:17Speaker 1: It's okay to start over, to think you have another
- 14:21Speaker 1: shot or be with another campaign. Why do I have
- 14:23Speaker 1: to stay here? If this is what life is? I
- 14:26Speaker 1: think that. Can you remember another like a huge celebrity
- 14:29Speaker 1: couple been together.
- 14:30Speaker 2: A decade Hugh Jackman and his wife. That was a
- 14:33Speaker 2: big chakra. I think they were twenty years and that
- 14:35Speaker 2: was recent as well. And he has been dealing with
- 14:38Speaker 2: bad press and publicity with his current relationship with Sutton Foster,
- 14:43Speaker 2: so he's been dealing with that heat. But that was
- 14:45Speaker 2: shocking to a lot of folks. But his wife wasn't
- 14:48Speaker 2: I shouldn't say famous, but she wasn't in the same
- 14:50Speaker 2: celebrity status as him. So that's why I don't think
- 14:53Speaker 2: it rose to the level when you have two mega
- 14:55Speaker 2: celebrities like j Lo and Ben Affleck or yes, Nicole
- 14:59Speaker 2: Kidman and Keith Urban, you're going to get a lot
- 15:01Speaker 2: more scrutiny.
- 15:02Speaker 1: Dude, if you tell me Eva that's something between Goldie
- 15:06Speaker 1: Hawn and.
- 15:07Speaker 3: Kurt Russell, although they don't have to get divorced.
- 15:10Speaker 1: Divorced, but if if these two go there separate, I'm done.
- 15:13Speaker 3: That would gut me, like actually gut me.
- 15:16Speaker 1: Okay, And we're not putting that out there or any
- 15:18Speaker 1: suggestion of that. But that's just another couple we look
- 15:20Speaker 1: at that's been together for a long long time and
- 15:23Speaker 1: seem to have figured something out about making it work.
- 15:28Speaker 1: I was just I couldn't.
- 15:29Speaker 2: I should have Filt Smith and Jada pickin Smith too.
- 15:31Speaker 2: That was a big one. I mean, there's rumors around
- 15:33Speaker 2: it for a while, but it was still and we
- 15:35Speaker 2: still I don't even know what their relationship status is
- 15:37Speaker 2: right now.
- 15:38Speaker 1: Okay, that's my point that was, it's not muddy the
- 15:40Speaker 1: waters here. We'll stay with us here, folks. When we
- 15:44Speaker 1: come back, we're gonna remind you these folks aren't just stars.
- 15:49Speaker 1: They aren't just a movie star and a music star.
- 15:52Speaker 1: These two I had to be reminded just how on
- 15:56Speaker 1: top of their games that they are.
- 16:00Speaker 2: And and and continuing our conversation about these shocking and
- 16:12Speaker 2: sad news that Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban are officially
- 16:16Speaker 2: splitting up after nineteen years of marriage. Several news organizations
- 16:21Speaker 2: have confirmed their separation, although neither Star nor any of
- 16:25Speaker 2: their representatives have officially made any kind of comment about
- 16:29Speaker 2: it being true about what happened, about what the next
- 16:32Speaker 2: steps are, but certainly it's incredibly sad to see a
- 16:36Speaker 2: couple like that, a powerhouse couple who seemingly were so
- 16:41Speaker 2: in love and had figured out how to make marriage last,
- 16:45Speaker 2: and not just last, but actually be happy. I mean,
- 16:48Speaker 2: when you look at the pictures, when you hear the interviews,
- 16:50Speaker 2: recent ones, they seemed like they were still going strong.
- 16:54Speaker 2: I mean as late as June twenty fifth, that was
- 16:58Speaker 2: their nineteenth wedding. Animis Nicole Kidman put up a very
- 17:02Speaker 2: sweet black and white photo of the two of them
- 17:04Speaker 2: and alongside it said happy anniversary baby with a red heart.
- 17:09Speaker 2: So you know, that was just three months ago, and
- 17:12Speaker 2: CNN is reporting and another news outlet I saw competitively
- 17:15Speaker 2: said they confirmed that the two have been living apart
- 17:18Speaker 2: this summer, So we don't know what happened. And another
- 17:21Speaker 2: question is do we get to know? Why do we
- 17:24Speaker 2: feel like we have the right to know. I know
- 17:26Speaker 2: we followed them, and I know we've shared along in
- 17:28Speaker 2: their journey, but it doesn't mean I think we get
- 17:30Speaker 2: into this trap as consumers of entertainment that somehow these
- 17:35Speaker 2: people aren't human that somehow these people owe something to us,
- 17:38Speaker 2: that they owe us an explanation, and having been on
- 17:41Speaker 2: the receiving end of that's it's a really, really tough
- 17:44Speaker 2: spot in an already difficult moment in your life. This
- 17:48Speaker 2: has got to be probably one of the toughest things.
- 17:50Speaker 2: And I know Nicole Kidman went through a very public,
- 17:53Speaker 2: difficult divorce with Tom Cruise as well, but this is
- 17:56Speaker 2: tough when you've got teenage girls who are deeply hurt
- 17:59Speaker 2: by this and are probably trying to figure out what
- 18:02Speaker 2: their new normal is. To have all this speculation and
- 18:04Speaker 2: all this conversation, it's tough.
- 18:07Speaker 3: It's so hard. I just feel for everyone involved.
- 18:11Speaker 1: Well, I don't to that point, and a lot of
- 18:13Speaker 1: celebrities get it, and there is a balance what your
- 18:18Speaker 1: obligation is to your fans, to the world and sometimes
- 18:23Speaker 1: I mean, we just saw Selena Gomez and Denny Blanc
- 18:26Speaker 1: will do this over the weekend, yes, where they put
- 18:29Speaker 1: it out, We shared it with you, and that's fine
- 18:32Speaker 1: if they wanted to. If they don't want to, that's fine.
- 18:34Speaker 1: But a lot of they get that my fans are
- 18:37Speaker 1: curious about me in my life, and I'm going to
- 18:39Speaker 1: let you in on this when it's difficult, like this,
- 18:42Speaker 1: when it's now the news is negative, but now the
- 18:45Speaker 1: news is bad. I'm not mad if you now want
- 18:49Speaker 1: to pull back and just be private and not share
- 18:52Speaker 1: this thing bandful. But I think there does you talk
- 18:55Speaker 1: about an obligation people, There is not one. I think
- 18:59Speaker 1: oftentimes we hear people say it what you want to
- 19:02Speaker 1: share everything in the good times, and then you get
- 19:04Speaker 1: mad at us for also being interested in your bad times.
- 19:08Speaker 1: I get that to a certain degree, but I think
- 19:10Speaker 1: also reasonable humans can say, I get why you don't
- 19:13Speaker 1: want to talk about this, and it's okay. Talk to
- 19:15Speaker 1: me when you feel good.
- 19:17Speaker 3: Yeah, if you.
- 19:18Speaker 2: Think about it as a friend of yours or a
- 19:21Speaker 2: best friend of yours, you don't want to pry and
- 19:23Speaker 2: push too hard when you see someone going through something painful.
- 19:25Speaker 2: In time, if they want to share it, you'll be
- 19:27Speaker 2: there to hear it and to commiserate. But until then
- 19:31Speaker 2: it's on them to say what they want to say,
- 19:34Speaker 2: when they want to say it. But we were talking
- 19:36Speaker 2: before we went to the break about just how incredible
- 19:40Speaker 2: these two individuals are just in terms of their art,
- 19:43Speaker 2: and you were going through Nicole Kidman's movies and forgetting
- 19:47Speaker 2: some of her incredible and even if they weren't necessarily
- 19:51Speaker 2: film success, it's just movies we love.
- 19:53Speaker 1: I forgot about the Ricardos that was fairly reason. But
- 19:56Speaker 1: she got an Oscar nomination for playing Lucil Ball, right,
- 19:58Speaker 1: I totally forgot. You've forgot that was there.
- 20:01Speaker 3: I did too, Like I think.
- 20:02Speaker 1: The movie might necessarily not rise to the level of
- 20:05Speaker 1: some classic, or it might be an afterthought, but I
- 20:08Speaker 1: remember her. She was incredible the look and I that's
- 20:14Speaker 1: just and again that was one that you talk about
- 20:16Speaker 1: Nicole Kidman. It doesn't rise to the first one at
- 20:18Speaker 1: the top of your mind, but that was a fairly
- 20:20Speaker 1: recent one.
- 20:20Speaker 2: That got her an Oscar, not yea, and she is
- 20:22Speaker 2: an Oscar winner, by the way, for the Hours, but
- 20:24Speaker 2: nominated four other times. I have recently loved her in
- 20:28Speaker 2: her incredible television series Nine Perfect Strangers, Amazing, Big Little
- 20:34Speaker 2: Eyes Loved, and The Undoing My God, that was good.
- 20:38Speaker 3: Like all three of those.
- 20:40Speaker 2: I watched every single episode on the edge of my seat,
- 20:43Speaker 2: and she was amazing in.
- 20:44Speaker 3: All of them.
- 20:45Speaker 1: Mulin Rouge, so I know you're a big Mulin rouge
- 20:50Speaker 1: on a Broadway fan, but also No, I love the
- 20:52Speaker 1: movie too as well. Cole Mountain, Rabbit Hole, the others
- 20:55Speaker 1: is in the Yeah, the interpreter I forgot about that.
- 20:58Speaker 1: Australia was a big epic movie. Then Far and Away,
- 21:01Speaker 1: So good, Eyes Wide Shut. That was that was controversial
- 21:04Speaker 1: even in time, but it got a lot of attention.
- 21:06Speaker 3: And Dead Calm.
- 21:07Speaker 2: I was just telling you that was one of the
- 21:08Speaker 2: first thriller horror movies I saw. She's so young, she's
- 21:11Speaker 2: a baby. She's like twenty two in this movie. But
- 21:14Speaker 2: if you've never seen Dead Calm, that's kind of a
- 21:16Speaker 2: deep cut. But I'm telling you it is such a
- 21:19Speaker 2: good movie.
- 21:20Speaker 1: This guy, he's a four time Grammy winner, but he
- 21:23Speaker 1: won I think four years in a row or something.
- 21:25Speaker 1: He was the Country Music Artist of the Year, like
- 21:27Speaker 1: the biggest. He was everything in music. But the number
- 21:31Speaker 1: of award is that a big Ten time CMA winner,
- 21:34Speaker 1: eleven time Academy of Country Music Awards winner. That's a
- 21:38Speaker 1: lot of awards. Yeah, four time Grammy winner.
- 21:41Speaker 3: I have never met Nicole Kidman in person, have you no?
- 21:45Speaker 1: Only on video only interview your own.
- 21:46Speaker 3: Video, So I've never done that.
- 21:48Speaker 2: But Keith Urban used to come to GMA often and
- 21:53Speaker 2: he was such a nice guy, like you know I
- 21:55Speaker 2: so we actually got to meet.
- 21:56Speaker 3: Him in person, just a fun kind person. Maybe you
- 22:00Speaker 3: weren't there when I.
- 22:00Speaker 1: Don't remember him ever. I don't remember him ever being there.
- 22:03Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and maybe it was before you got there,
- 22:04Speaker 2: because I have two years on you from the studio.
- 22:07Speaker 3: But yes, and so these are two seemingly.
- 22:09Speaker 2: Lovely people and we are rooting for them throughout all
- 22:14Speaker 2: of this. But right now, Keith Urban is on tour.
- 22:16Speaker 2: So he actually has a concert set for Hershey, Pennsylvania
- 22:19Speaker 2: on October second.
- 22:20Speaker 3: So when is that Friday?
- 22:22Speaker 2: My goodness, so I wonder you know, I'm sure everyone
- 22:24Speaker 2: is is it?
- 22:25Speaker 1: It's Thursday on Friday?
- 22:26Speaker 2: Okay, sorry, yes, we have our date. We know October second.
- 22:29Speaker 2: He has he's got a concert in Hershey, Pennsylvania. Unlikely
- 22:34Speaker 2: he'll address it, but I'm sure a lot of people
- 22:36Speaker 2: will be waiting to see if he says anything.
- 22:38Speaker 3: What's he going to do?
- 22:39Speaker 1: I can say my heavy heart, thank you for supporting
- 22:42Speaker 1: me today. He could say something subtle like that and
- 22:44Speaker 1: move move on. And he also doesn't have to say
- 22:46Speaker 1: a damn thing.
- 22:46Speaker 3: He doesn't And if he cancels.
- 22:48Speaker 1: The show, I would say, okay, brother, I understand that
- 22:50Speaker 1: as well. If I had a ticket and he said,
- 22:52Speaker 1: you know what, I need a minute, Damn that sucks. Okay,
- 22:55Speaker 1: just three fund my money, brother, whatever you need to do,
- 22:57Speaker 1: I would say that about him. At this moment you
- 23:00Speaker 1: mentioned Nicole Hitman. I guess it was Perfect Strangers? Is
- 23:04Speaker 1: that it nine Perfect Strangers? Was that during COVID?
- 23:07Speaker 2: Yeah? Yes, I believe so, yes, because I was watching
- 23:09Speaker 2: it during that. It was about the microdoce.
- 23:11Speaker 3: Yes, she's amazing.
- 23:12Speaker 1: Maybe that's why I had her own video because I
- 23:15Speaker 1: talked to her and I think she was in Australia
- 23:17Speaker 1: at the time. And the reason this stands out the
- 23:20Speaker 1: interview didn't go that terribly long, but it was on tape.
- 23:23Speaker 1: But we had a technical issue and I had to entertain,
- 23:27Speaker 1: if you will, an Oscar winner and stretch while they're
- 23:30Speaker 1: getting some tech issues worked out. I say, I had
- 23:34Speaker 1: to entertain. She was as engaged and interested, and we
- 23:38Speaker 1: talked about Arkansas and Nashville and we went around. I
- 23:41Speaker 1: could not believe how warm she was not frustrated by
- 23:45Speaker 1: the delay and engaged with me, not about the movie,
- 23:50Speaker 1: and so that left that I will forever be a
- 23:52Speaker 1: fan because of that experience, not meeting her in person,
- 23:56Speaker 1: but because our circumstances forced us who spend personal time
- 24:02Speaker 1: making small talk, and she was as wonderful I walked
- 24:05Speaker 1: away from their bigger fan than any movie I have
- 24:07Speaker 1: ever seen of her. Don't you love when you engaged?
- 24:10Speaker 3: Like, Wow, they're actually cool and nice.
- 24:13Speaker 2: Look, these are long days for celebrities when they have
- 24:16Speaker 2: to do these junkets is what they call them, when
- 24:18Speaker 2: they have to promote whatever project they've just done, and
- 24:20Speaker 2: they literally have to talk to ten, fifteen, maybe even
- 24:23Speaker 2: twenty different news outlets and they get exhausted and so
- 24:26Speaker 2: it's maybe not the best.
- 24:27Speaker 3: Version of them.
- 24:27Speaker 2: So it's really cool when you have a major star
- 24:31Speaker 2: like that doing the round, so to speak, and being
- 24:34Speaker 2: kind and generous.
- 24:35Speaker 3: That is a.
- 24:36Speaker 2: Huge, huge, huge, Well it's rare sometimes, but it is
- 24:41Speaker 2: so wonderful when you do get to experience that with
- 24:43Speaker 2: a star like that. In fact, I know you're not
- 24:46Speaker 2: big on watching TV series. You just like a movie
- 24:48Speaker 2: wane and done. But if I see Nicole Kidman in something,
- 24:51Speaker 2: I'm like, Nicole Kidman's in it, because I know that's
- 24:53Speaker 2: a draw that maybe will make you say, all right,
- 24:56Speaker 2: I'll check it out.
- 24:57Speaker 1: She is just a treasure. So we hope, I mean
- 25:02Speaker 1: you really do. Hearts go out to them and hope
- 25:03Speaker 1: they They've dealt with plenty publicly, but this other storm
- 25:08Speaker 1: is underway and probably keep going for a while. But
- 25:11Speaker 1: I hope they're all right. And of course they will
- 25:12Speaker 1: be okay.
- 25:13Speaker 2: Yeah, And so we wish them the very best, and
- 25:16Speaker 2: we want to thank you for listening to us. I'm
- 25:17Speaker 2: Amy Roebuck alongside TJ.
- 25:19Speaker 3: Holmes. We'll talk to you soon.