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A Hobby Revolt Is Coming? · Sports Card Clubhouse

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In our massive country, there are card collectors throughout
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the land participating in the hobby.
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There's Mike of Junk Wax Hero and Greg of Midlife Cards, and
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while distance may separate them, here is where they come
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together to talk cards. Hey buddy, how are you doing on
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this fine day? Well, Greg, we have 60° weather
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on the way in the next few days here in Maine.
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I got promoted in my day job, big, big promotion.
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And we have Jayson Tatum returning to the two seed
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Celtics tomorrow night. I don't know how it could get
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any better. I mean, if if a pile of cash
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fell in your lap, that would be a little better.
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Yeah, always. How are you doing?
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I'm doing good, man. I'm doing good.
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I had, I had some work news happened today too.
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I haven't even told you this. I haven't really told anybody
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this, but apparently world, here we go.
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There is a position that I've kind of been eyeing at a
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different school. Now, I've been at the same
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school for 21 years and it would be a different subject.
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It would be history subject in a different at a different school
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at a different grade level. And I thought it was going to
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not become available. And I found out today it's
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available. So that could be big news in my
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life in the next little bit. But we will see.
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I mean nothing's done till it's done, but that that could be
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something different. Well, good luck.
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Well, yeah, we'll see how it goes.
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All right, we've got lots now. On my way to work today, I was
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listening to Adam and Dylan on their Turn back the Clock, which
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I mean, I, I feel like I say this every time they do a video
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it, it is one of my favorite episodes that dropped ever.
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Like they do it about once a month.
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It's like one of the things I most look forward to.
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And it was really good today. And I know that you haven't had
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a chance to listen to it yet. And there's a lot I want to chew
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on with that. But then on the way home, I was
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listening. Mike Moynihan put out a video
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today about how he thinks that there is a revolt coming from
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collectors against the industry, the card industry, and he said
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specifically against collector's universe.
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He said, I, I wrote it down because I didn't want to
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misquote him. There's a revolt against the
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collector's monster coming, and so those two things kind of got
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my juices flowing. So I don't know if you have
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thoughts on those. I didn't really tell you what
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Adam and Dylan talked about. The thing that was most
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interesting to me was Adam revealed to everybody that he
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had bought one of those Griffey Mantle cards a few years ago and
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where Mantle signed it, but not Griffey.
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And I think he bought it for like 1000 or $2000.
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And there were some cards he wanted to add to his collection.
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So he was like, what could I sell?
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So he was kind of looking up values and he saw that card was
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worth a lot and he sold it for $14,000.
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So he took a card he had no plans on selling.
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But once it got to a certain price point, he said.
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I got to sell this because I'd rather have those other things
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than. This.
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It's very similar to when he had the PSA 10 1981 tops Larry Bird
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and the value skyrocketed and he's like, I don't need this in
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APSA 10 and he he turned around and sold it for $30,000.
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Yeah, and then went and bought a 52 mantle.
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Right, I also would much rather have love the 81 tops bird.
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I have it in APSA 6 up on my wall here.
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I would much rather have a mantle than APSA 1081 tops bird.
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I have an 81 tubs burden an 8 and it's from my childhood
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collection and I'm like this card, this card looks like a 10
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like. So finally, like five years ago,
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I sent it in at PSA 'cause I was just, I was like, what are they
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going to? What would they do with this?
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And got an 8. But I mean, it's perfect.
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But that's a whole different topic.
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Anything in there that gets you excited?
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I did have a mail day today. I have a car I just opened.
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I don't. I don't like cards.
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You don't like cards or mail days?
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No, no. So actually, you know, I'm going
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to talk about this a little bit because on Saturday and not,
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we're not talking about mail days, but my stupid sense of
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humor got me in some trouble, got us in some trouble.
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I don't know how long ago that podcast was recorded or aired,
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but at some point we were talking about values and, and
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we, we were talking about people who say they don't care about
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values after they buy a card. And I made it very clear I'm one
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of those people. I once I buy a card, and I've
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said this a million times, once I buy a card, I could not care
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less about the value of that card.
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I recently put my card collection in card ladder and
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have been shocked to watch as it moves up and down and I haven't
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decided if I'd like it or if I hate it.
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I love card ladders. Very cool tool, but no sponsor.
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But it's I made it very clear that I am one of those people
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who does not care about the value of my cars.
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I do want them to go up and I made that clear also.
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I want them to go up, but I never think about it.
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And if they all went down and John 3-DA's kid made a great
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point. I think it was him who said if
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my all my cards go to zero, there are much bigger problems
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in the world. And but the problem I I had
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there is that I let it off by saying, but the people who say
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they don't care about values care when they sell.
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And maybe if they don't truly care, they should just give
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their cards away. And I, I'm a big fan of
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absurdist humor. My one of my favorite comedic
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actors is Tim Robinson and his absurd TV show.
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I wish I think you should leave. It's so stupid.
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It's so. And anytime I say anything
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that's funny is so stupid. It is the biggest compliment I
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could give to ATV show or a movie.
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Because if something is absurd and outrageously stupid, it
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makes me laugh so hard. And so I have always had an
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absurd humor bent to me ever since I was a little kid.
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I say outrageous things and I'm constantly having to say on my
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videos, I'm just kidding. Please don't comment that you're
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mad that I just said that or something like that.
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Because people take me seriously and I know that.
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People who know me don't take me seriously.
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They know I'm joking when I say stupid things.
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But when I said that, I didn't think anything of it, I said it.
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And I think that people who were watching that got so focused on
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that stupid joke that they ignored the fact that their
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opinions actually completely aligned with what I said.
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And so there were several videos that were made that people were
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mad at me for saying that. And I think also you got caught
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up in this whirlwind 2 and there were a lot of comments.
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Somebody said my comments were stupid, another YouTube.
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And so, yeah, it was, it was frustrating Saturday watching
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all these videos and reading all these comments.
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But I'd also say if you're another YouTube and you have my
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cell phone number and you disagree with something I said
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or you want to get clarification, just text me,
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give me a call. Let's talk.
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Ask me to come on. I can clarify what I what I
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said. That's it.
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No. OK, but let now that you know
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the can of worms has been opened, the IT is it possible
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that there are times where the value of a car does get so out
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of hand that even though you weren't planning on selling it
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or you don't care about the value?
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Sort of like with two examples we just gave about Adam, they're
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like, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a second.
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You know this card I had planned on because he's a Mickey Mantle
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collector and he has a lot. He has like the full Mantle tops
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run and all the Mantle stuff. He's got Mantle autos, packed
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pulled autos. He wants the Mantle cards.
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But at $14,000, it's like I want the card, but I don't want it at
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$14,000 because it goes back to the whole economic principle of
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opportunity cost. You can either have this or you
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can have this. So every day that you have a
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card at this value, you're kind of choosing that card over the
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cash that you could exchange it for.
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Now, I know that doesn't tie in the emotional connection or the
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story or the nostalgia that you might have.
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That might be something you can't put a value on.
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But I do think that there are times where cards get a little
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carried away and people say, I don't care about value, but if
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someone will pay me this, it's for sale.
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Like is that, is that fair too? Well, as part of this activity
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of putting my cards into card ladder, I discovered that some
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of my Shohei Otani rookies have absolutely skyrocketed in value.
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Cards that I spent $100 on two years ago are now worth 506
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hundred dollars. One card that I spent 180 on two
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years ago is now going for almost $900.
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It's quadrupled in in two years. And so I'm working on I this new
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concept, not new totally, but fairly new to me new concept for
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my collection, which I'll talk about once I've really
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formulated it well and decided that because I already had one
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show, Hey, the the one that's worth the most that I'm keeping.
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Do I need these other three show?
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Hey, rookies? I really don't.
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And so I decided I was going to sell them.
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It's spring training, values are up.
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WBC. His values have surged like
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crazy. And what if he has an injury?
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What if he has a bad season? I'm OK with one card holding
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that risk, but do I want four of them holding that risk?
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I probably wouldn't have known this without entering in my
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collection. I don't know.
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I 'cause I never, I never look up values anywhere, but I just
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started getting these alerts about my collection and I was
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like, oh man. So I'm selling them on CIA,
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bitch. By the way, CIA is partially
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owned by Crystal. What a Segway partially owned by
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Chris Sewell, our partner here on Sports Card Clubhouse.
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He sponsors service issues and he is the best, in our opinion,
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person to sell your collection to.
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Part of your collection, all your collection.
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Either way, he will give you a fair readout of what your
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collection is worth. Why He's willing to pay what
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he's willing to pay for it. You can e-mail him at
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sewellsportscards@gmail.com. You can also just go to
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sportscardclubhouse.com and go to partners and there he is, the
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one and only sponsor we have. The one and only sponsor that we
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really want to have for now is Chris.
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Whoa. Whoa, whoa.
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Back up. No, Chris is not.
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You're right. Yeah, I agree.
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Pumping Chris. He's awesome.
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We're. Chris is fantastic.
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Love the guy. Looking forward to seeing him
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here in about 3 1/2 months at the National.
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Four months. Four months at the National.
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Almost 5 months. And like we've talked about
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their podcast, which comes out on Tuesday afternoons, I really
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have been enjoying getting to know him more, getting to know
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Jeremy Donson, the Texas Snowman.
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They're just great guys. And like you said, CIA, they are
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both owners of CIA. And the CIA auction closes as
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this is released tomorrow, which would be March 8th.
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So go over the auction doesn't? Close Auction closes on the
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15th. My I take that back.
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You're right it is the IT is the following Sunday the 15th so go
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bid on some show. Hey, cards on that.
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Hey and I'll. You know, go ahead.
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You mentioned, you mentioned the podcast and you you mentioned
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Chris and Jeremy, but you didn't mention the star of the podcast.
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Well, I just thought it went without saying that the stars
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Theo, our boy Theo is, is absolutely fantastic and I, I
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really like his contributions to the podcast.
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Let me go back to the website for a second.
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As we're continue, we're, we're getting way off track now.
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If we go to the website, I do want to go to the vote tab
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because we're always having a poll running and there is a a
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pole that we have up right now. It's a tough one.
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Yeah, it is a tough one. It's the T2O6.
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It's what is the most famous sports card.
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Famous T2O6, Honda Swagner, 33 Gaudi, Babe Ruth, All versions
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4849 Leaf. Jackie Robinson says that's his
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48. So get ready for the Rotten
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Tomatoes to be thrown at you. The 52 tops Mickey Mantle, the O
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Peachy or tops Gretzky rookie, The Bird, Magic, Julius Irving
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card, The 86 Flair Jordan, The 89 upper deck Ken Griffey
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Junior, The 2000 playoff contenders, Tom Brady.
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You can obviously tell who made the poll by including that one
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and the 2003 exquisite RPA, LeBron James and and I voted.
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And when you vote, it shows you how it how the voting is.
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And it's an absolute landslide right now.
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The Mickey Mantle, the 52 tops Mickey Mantle 53% in the Hannes,
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Wagner second at 27%. But interesting to me is that #3
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is the playoff contenders, Tom Brady.
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That, to me, is the most newsworthy part.
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Uh oh, you're you're muted. I don't hear you.
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So I don't know why this thing mutes itself.
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I don't understand it. So I would have had it at Mantle
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first, Wagner second, Griffey third, Jordan 4th.
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I I'm 100% on board with you and.
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I was torn between the Mantle and the Wagner.
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The Wagner gets more public love recently.
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That's just recency bias cause a bunch of them have sold this
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year. But I think the mantle is is
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more famous, more well known, more people have heard of
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Mantle. I no, I haven't shared this on a
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video. I did a quick post.
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I do want to throw out my own personal plug in the midlife
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tab. I had several people say hey I'm
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not going to Strongsville but Greg I want a signed.
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I don't know why anyone would want me to sign something but
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they want a signed and or inscribed midlife card
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collecting stories book and so I made that available if you go to
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the link in the midlife tab on Sports card Clubhouse so check
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that out too. Greg, you should sign one for me
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and then charge $1000 for every subsequent autograph.
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So mine is worth so much money. But the problem is, is I would
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have one signed one in existence.
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That's right, it'd. Be worth so much.
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Yeah, it'd be worth like 20-3 dollars instead of 2250.
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I'll take it. I'd sell.
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In a heartbeat, I would. I mean, heck, I'm, I don't sell
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anything for the right price. OK, I want to circle back to
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what we were talking about a few minutes ago.
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You know when when you buy a card and the card isn't bought
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as an investment, even though there are, you know, channels
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out there like your buddy, a sports card investor, good old
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Jeff, like, like some people look at cards as investments.
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Now, I don't and I know that most of our community doesn't
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look at it as an investment, but there are some people who do
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look at it as an investment. At what point that when, when
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you buy a card for just your regular old collection, when it
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gets to a certain value, does it no longer hold the
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collectibility as much as the financial return?
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I mean, that's the part that I struggle with, with the whole
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thing that you were just talking about, about the, the, you know,
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comment you made about, well, then just give your cards away,
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blah, blah, blah. I don't have any problem with
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everybody saying I don't have any problem with anything.
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I don't really care. But just for the sake of
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discussion, I don't have any problem with somebody saying I
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don't care about values. I buy a card to keep it until I
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die and then my heirs can do whatever they want with it.
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I have no, I have no problem with that.
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But the part that I struggle with is, but what if that card,
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what if you bought that show hey card for $100 and now it's worth
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100,000 just theoretically. OK, that's that that.
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Point. In today's dollars, I'm selling.
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But that's my point. That's my point is I don't think
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anybody, I think a lot of collectors, not investors,
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right? But collectors don't care about
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the value. But if the value gets to a
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certain point, like we have a friend in common, I didn't, this
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was an off the record comment that somebody made to me, But he
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bought a card at the National and it's doubled in value.
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And he's going, he texted me the other day, he goes, should I
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sell this? It's doubled in value.
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It's like my Steph Curry rookie that we talked about a couple
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weeks ago. It's more than doubled today.
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I got the update. It's up to 1900.
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I paid 800 for it and it's like, but it fits in my collection.
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I'm not selling. I'm I'm going to want that card
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in my collection in a year, in five years and 10 years and 20
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years. Do I sell it today just because
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it's gone up in value? No.
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But if it goes to 10,000, this theoretically, let's say it goes
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to 10,000 by this year's National, it won't, but let's
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just say that it did. And you could go buy a Babe Ruth
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card. Or you could buy a really nice
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Ted Williams rookie. Like there comes a point where I
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don't think a lot of us intend to care about the value and a
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lot of us don't pay attention to the value, but there are times
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where the value just slaps you across the face and goes, you
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need to pay attention to this. You had me at Babe Ruth.
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You know how I feel about Ted Williams 1939 play ball card.
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I hate it. I love Ted Williams.
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I have almost all of his cards. I hate his play ball rookie
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card. I don't hate it at all, I love
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it. I hate it.
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So if the Steph Curry rookie went up to $10,000 by the
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National, so in one year it went up by 12, XI would probably sell
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because it's plentiful and sure to come back down 1900.
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I mean, I, I think it's going to come down from the 1900.
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I just don't want to sell it. I have Alan and Ginter, Pirates
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of the Spanish Maine Blackbeard card which I love and I bought
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it 18 months ago for $420.00. I think I could sell it right
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now. Honestly, I think I could sell
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it for close to $4000. I really believe that and and I
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wouldn't do it. I wouldn't do it.
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In fact, there's one for sale right now and I'm thinking about
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bidding on it because I love the card so much.
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I mean, depending on what it sells for, I'm interested.
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I also have a trade in place, a deal in place unless and he's I
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know he'll be listening to this unless my good friend pulls out
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of the deal, which he would never do because he has as a man
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of integrity and he would never break my heart like that are.
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You going to name names? David, it is.
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We have a deal in place that has been in place for a couple
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months for an SGC 5 of that card, which is.
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What grade? Mine's APSA 2.
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OK. And it is it.
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It is a deal that I hope we are able to complete at
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Strongsville. Anyway, I don't even know where
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I'm what I'm talking about anymore.
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I'm I'm all getting all, I'm getting all sweaty or something.
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Yeah. So, OK, so we talked about
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Dylan, we talked about Adam, we talked about the card goes to
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the price where it's hard to ignore the value even if you
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want the card. But that's an example.
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Like that's an example right there where I understand when
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people say I don't care about the value.
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It's mine. It's in it's in my collection.
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I, I, I would not sell. I mean, I'm trying to think of
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what the number would be that I would sell my Blackbeard for.
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And, and it would be a lot because even though it might be
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worth closing in on 4000 right now, I think it would take at
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least 10 for me to sell it. So, so that that shows you how
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much I want the card and how much the value doesn't really
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matter that it would have to just go, it would have to go 25
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X for me to sell that card. I did have a mail day and I
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mentioned that and you didn't want to see the card.
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Of course I do. I always want to see your cards.
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This is one of your favorite players of all time.
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Pedro Martinez. No.
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Don't you dare show me a Derek Cheeter card.
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It's not. We've got a 97 Bowman's best
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killer card, atomic refractor, Derek Jeter, and it's gorgeous.
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That is that thing. Killer card.
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Yeah, came in the mail today. Bought that at a fanatics
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auction. It's the first atomic refractor,
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is that right? 96 didn't have them.
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I think it's 97. And it's got some greening, but
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you know, most of them do. Pedro also has one in that set
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I'm going to look at. So 97 Atomic Refractor first.
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Oh Nope, sorry. 98 Bowman's best is the first numbered atomic.
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That's what I was thinking. Of and then.
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Yes, Adam. Adam put together a list of the
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big best Pedro cards of all time, and I was studying it last
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night as I fell asleep. Yeah, that.
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That's what I remembered. And then and then this card came
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yesterday. This is a 95 Bowman's best blue
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refractor. Derek Jeter.
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Look at that baby. Yeah, it's got the logo in the
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background. So you're you're getting heavy
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into modern? Hey, when we started this
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podcast, I said I want to get into modern and I don't know
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what to collect. And I started talking about
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Patrick Willis. I grabbed a couple of those
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cards. I like them and I'm not over the
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moon for them. And then I bought that card last
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week. Have we?
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We haven't talked about that on here.
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I haven't even gotten it in the mail yet, but I got a big like a
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big we. I didn't say what the card was
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on here, did I last time. I I don't even remember
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recording. Last week.
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Yeah, it's I blacked out. Do you remember what you had for
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breakfast this morning? Yeah, because I have the same
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thing for breakfast every day for 15 years.
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OK, what is which is what? Oatmeal.
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Oatmeal mixed with Fiber One. Oh, well, look at that.
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Yeah. So I said last week that there
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were two big Modern cards that I was looking to bid on in the
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next 48 hour. Well, it was about 3 or 4 days
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and I didn't say what they were and I got one of them.
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I got one of them and I'll pull it up on the screen if you want.
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You want to look at it on the screen.
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Sure our podcast listeners won't.
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Yeah, well, you know that they could always go check us out on
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YouTube. Let me pull it up.
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This was a card that closed on believe it was Monday and here
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it comes right now, all right up on this.
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Oh, it's not doing it. Hold on.
27:13
How do I do this? It's it's doing one of those
27:15
things where when I share my screen, it's not the same
27:19
screen. I usually have all this stuff
27:21
prepped, but I was not prepared that I would be doing this.
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So here we go. All right, so it is a 93 finest
27:30
refractor. Barry Bonds and I set a new high
27:35
comp on the card. Now when you look at that,
27:41
you're you're wincing. I'll say a couple of things, OK.
27:44
No, I'm I'm impressed. I love 93 finest refractors.
27:49
Congratulations. Thank you.
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So there's a few things that stood out to me about this card.
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Number 1, lot of the times they have bad centering.
27:58
Even the nines are like 7525 centering side to side.
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This has pretty darn good centering.
28:06
The other thing about it is look at the serial number.
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That card was graded within like the last 30 days.
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So that is that to me says a lot.
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I mean, there's the the corners are like super sharp.
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It just got an 8. And the way I look at an 8 now
28:31
is an 8 with a brand new serial number is like a nine from five
28:37
years ago or three years ago or two years ago.
28:40
So yeah, so that was a big addition.
28:44
I know a lot of people hate Barry Bonds and, you know,
28:47
there's a lot to dislike about the guy.
28:50
But, and, and I know Greg, you know, Greg, you're a vintage
28:53
card collector and you just showed three modern cards.
28:56
I'm, I guess this is my reveal video for the month.
28:59
I don't know. But it, I, they're just, they're
29:03
cards I want. I, I, there was something in me
29:08
that happened at the West Coast card show when I was looking at
29:12
a case and I pulled out a 90s refractor of Jeter and I just
29:18
looked at it in person and, and the pictures on the Internet
29:22
just don't do these things justice.
29:24
They just don't. And I was like, holy crap.
29:27
Like I need this card. I didn't end up buying the card.
29:32
And then I showed a picture of it on my, one of my, one of my
29:35
videos from the West Coast card show.
29:38
And now I'm just like, I'm like, I'm down with this, these 90s
29:43
refractors, I'm down with them and people go, you're wasting
29:46
your money. That's garbage.
29:47
That's why I think they're great.
29:49
I don't care if other people think they're garbage.
29:51
I think they're so freaking cool.
29:54
How many times did you watch me showing some sort of modern car
30:00
and you scoff at me 'cause I have modern cars and now you are
30:05
me? I don't think I ever scoffed at
30:07
anyone. I've always gone gotten a lot of
30:11
appreciation from people being excited about what they they
30:17
added. Like I'll give you an example,
30:20
Adam Vintage Sanctuary. Fantastic guy, he does great
30:25
videos. Tons of energy.
30:27
Tons of energy. He's a fellow teacher, he's a
30:31
Community College, I think teacher, if I'm not mistaken.
30:34
And he he gets these like diamond, some sort of like like
30:42
Willie May's anniversary diamond or mini diamond things.
30:48
And he shows them on the screen and they're just, they're
30:50
gorgeous. They're and I'm like, man,
30:52
that's cool. It's not my thing.
30:55
But he's pumped and they're cool.
30:58
But but they just, they just hadn't caught me yet.
31:02
And, and Dylan has been doing it and Adam has been buying all
31:07
these Pedros and Dylan's buying these Mantle modern card
31:11
refractors. And you know, a lot of our
31:13
vintage buddies have been doing it.
31:15
And I just, I hadn't really caught the bug.
31:19
And I'm, I'm, I'm like totally, I totally get it now.
31:23
So I wouldn't say I ever scoffed.
31:26
The thing I scoff at is this, this is what I scoff at.
31:29
And this might start a little mini little conversation.
31:32
You tell me what you think. I scoff when when there are
31:36
channels like I'll use Jeff and and I don't.
31:41
I don't like to do a lot of reaction to what other people
31:44
are saying or doing, but I have an issue when Jeff calls a
31:51
prospect an investment, when he says this new quarterback for
31:57
the, you know, Atlanta Falcons. I think this is a really good
32:02
investment going into this season.
32:04
It's like, come on. Yeah, It's it's that's what it
32:07
is. It's, it's speculating.
32:08
It's, it's picking a number. Like an investment is putting
32:12
money in the S&P 500 for 10 years.
32:16
What is the speculation? Is putting $100 on the number 9
32:21
on the roulette wheel like that's a speculation and he
32:24
calls it an investment. And that use of terminology of
32:29
calling a speculative move an investment, That is what I scoff
32:35
at. But I have no problem if people
32:37
like playing that dart game of maybe I can hit the right player
32:42
and it'll go way up or collecting current players or
32:45
vintage players or it does none of it.
32:48
I I don't care what people collect, but don't call it an
32:51
investment when it's a guy who's never taken a snap in the NFL.
32:56
Come on, give me a break. Yeah, so back to what you said
32:59
about it's not for me and you like watching those videos.
33:03
I feel the same way about Youtubers who focus their
33:07
collections on really scarce vintage cards of players
33:12
nobody's ever heard of before. It's not for me, but I love
33:15
watching those videos. Yeah.
33:17
I The passion these guys have is amazing. 100% I mean, Dan likes
33:23
Benny cough. He's told me five times why.
33:27
Benny cough. I don't know.
33:29
I mean, that's something Jake would ask, though.
33:32
I mean, it's one of these things where I don't, I don't, I still
33:36
don't know why Benny Cough is relevant, but he's pumped about
33:42
when he picks up a Benny cough Cracker Jack card and I'm pumped
33:45
for him. Like, I get, I get, I love the
33:49
excitement that anybody has. I mean, when back to Adam
33:53
Vintage Sanctuary, because he's such a passionate guy, like
33:56
he'll put together the run of like the, the Redman's, he's got
34:02
like the 52 Yogi Berra Redman and then the 53 Yogi Berra
34:07
Redman and the 54. And he puts them up and he's,
34:10
you know, he, he lays them out together and, and you see the
34:13
coloring on. It's like, I love that a lot of
34:17
my favorite stuff is not necessarily stuff that I like,
34:21
although I do like Redman cards and seeing how fired up people
34:26
get. I talk all the time about Brian
34:29
and iconic Brian, the high pop professor and iconic Al.
34:32
They're two of my favorite channels.
34:34
And for the most part, at least before a month ago, we didn't
34:38
collect similarly at all. But he'd get some new, you know,
34:41
Mirror gold Greg Maddox card and show the shine, and you could
34:46
just see how excited it was. I love that stuff.
34:50
Yeah, it's cool. I love 90s refractors and I I
34:55
mentioned Adam's list. I was on searching for them last
34:59
night. I did find one.
35:01
I'm going to buy it tomorrow. Oh, is it an auction or is it a
35:05
buy it now? It is a buy it now.
35:08
OK, so by the time this airs you hopefully will have bought it?
35:13
I will have bought it assuming it's still available I.
35:17
Now let me ask you that how, how OK this is this is great and and
35:22
we're at 35 minutes. We don't have a ton of time, but
35:25
I need to I need to dig because I just shared that I set a new
35:29
high comp for this Barry Bonds card.
35:32
And the reason I set a new comp is because I went back and I
35:35
looked through the previous like 10 or 1293 Finest refractor
35:41
Barry Bonds is in an 8 and in a nine.
35:44
And in my opinion, this card was as nice as any of them.
35:48
And so I felt like I felt like the grade was not in line with
35:57
the quality of the card. So I was willing to go, you
36:02
know, 10 percent, 15% above the comps of that normal grade
36:06
because that card to me was better than the other cards in
36:10
that normal grade. So this particular card that
36:13
you're talking about, is it within the normal comp range?
36:18
And how do you determine what the actual value to you is?
36:24
This is, this is probably a bigger conversation than we have
36:27
time for, but this is a little bit over the high.
36:34
But it's a Pedro Martinez card, it's a rare 1990s Pedro card.
36:39
And those are way up in value over the last six months like a
36:45
lot of things are. And the last one that sold I
36:47
think was like 3 or 4 months ago.
36:51
And so is it worth paying 10%, probably 20% over the highest
36:57
comp right now? Yeah, I think it is.
37:02
And so now I have another question for you too.
37:06
Are you gonna leave it in that PSA slab?
37:09
As opposed to what? Cracking it.
37:11
Why? To try to get it in a higher PSA
37:14
grade. No, I'm cracking mine.
37:18
And you're just putting them in one touches.
37:20
Yep. Really.
37:22
Yeah, I love if it's, I have a video coming out, I don't know,
37:29
maybe the same day that this releases.
37:31
So go check out my channel about cracking and I'm not cracking
37:35
them yet, but about buying these not terribly common refractors,
37:43
excuse me, in the low grade that look really, really good and
37:48
then cracking them. And I think it's a it's a great
37:51
strategy and I'll talk about that in that video.
37:54
I think it's a great I, I, I love that if it's in a low
38:00
grade, if it's in to me, a 90s refractor in an 8 is actually
38:08
kind of a high grade. A9 to me is a really high grade.
38:13
So I mean, I'll give you an example just real quick.
38:18
My dad, my dad was a collected 585960 for, you know, 20 years.
38:26
Those were the three sets that he got tons of cards from and he
38:31
ended up selling a lot of his stuff.
38:34
And he bought really nice undergraded stars from the 58
38:40
set. And he cracked all of them and
38:44
he put them in a binder because he does like the way they looked
38:47
in a binder. And he didn't crack his
38:51
undergraded 58 mantle and he didn't crack his undergraded 58
38:57
maze. They're both in five holders.
38:59
He still has them. And I said, why didn't you crack
39:04
these ones? If you like them better in
39:07
binders, why why didn't why didn't you crack these ones?
39:10
And he goes, they're too valuable to crack.
39:13
You just can't. You just can't crack a card
39:17
that's that valuable because if God forbid, something came up,
39:24
the the value that you've lost by cracking it out is just too
39:28
much. And I, I really agree with his
39:32
line of thinking there. And so for me, I think it would
39:36
look a little bit better in a one touch then it would in APSA
39:42
holder. But I will say it's a brand new
39:45
PSA holder. So it's not going to be all
39:46
scratched up. It's a brand new PSA holder.
39:49
It was just graded. It'll look as good as it could
39:52
possibly look in a holder. So I won't crack it.
39:56
But I love the the concept of buying like 90s refractors and
40:02
fives. 6 is in my in my case. OK.
40:06
I think 6 is low grade for a 90s early 2000s refractor.
40:12
I think they look really, really good in one touches.
40:16
Really good. So I I mean, I totally get what?
40:20
I totally get it. Yeah.
40:25
All right. Well, we're 41 minutes in and
40:30
yeah, I'm a week. I mean I'm a week away from
40:32
spring break bro this is like oh I need this spring break so bad.
40:37
I gotta ask my manager when my spring break is, so we haven't
40:40
talked about that. I thought you were the manager,
40:42
now you got the promotion. Everybody has a manager though.
40:46
I, I, I just got promoted to a higher level of manager, but I
40:51
still have a manager myself. I don't get a spring break I can
40:54
take there's. One thing about my job that
40:57
people are jealous of 1 so. There's 2.
41:04
What's the other one? We can talk about it offline.
41:07
Oh, OK, now I'm intrigued. I'm also intrigued about this
41:12
Pedro card. Next week, you're going to have
41:14
to let us know if you got it, and then you're going to have to
41:17
talk about what the card is in particular because we want to
41:21
know for sure. So all right, bud, as always, I
41:26
really look forward to these conversations.
41:28
They're very fun for me. I hope they are at least mildly
41:31
entertaining for you, Mike. And if anybody's still
41:35
listening, they either fell asleep or they enjoyed it too.
41:41
I had a great time too. All right.
41:44
Thanks, Greg.