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Where the Crawdads Sing by Delia Owens - Part 1 · Lose the Plot with Carla and Emily

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  Hi friends, you listening to lose the plot with color and
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  Emily. Welcome to part 1 of reading
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  where the Crawdad sing by Delia Owens.
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  We are covering chapters 1 to 21 in this episode.
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  So warning there will be spoilers.
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  I'm Carla and off seen Brandi do It's a bitch Fest better
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  behaved. I'm Emily and I'm about as
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  useless as tits on a boar hog nervous, giggle.
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  I'm actually lucky excited to talk about this book because
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  it's a bit different than the usual smart.
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  We've been reading lately. Yeah, it's a bit, it's a bit
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  more brainy a bit more big brain, a bit more big brain.
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  If you're expecting a full articulate review, this is
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  Probably not the podcast. Oh, I know.
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  You know how we choose your little quotes.
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  That was fun. I had one, and I was like, mmm,
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  too intelligent. It's too intelligent.
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  It's to profession, it's true to elegant, that's really get to
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  classy. So we're about to tear this book
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  and ah, right the reason why I picked this was my pick.
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  It was your pic. Yeah, it was my pick.
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  I picked this book because there's a new movie based on it
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  and there's a lot of hype about it right now.
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  So I'm like me and Emily need to read this and get into why it's
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  so popular right now. That's about it.
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  Yeah, that's about it. Did.
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  I also message you to see if you were Still reading it.
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  So I didn't have to read it hahaha.
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  Wow, it's okay. It's outside of the norm, which
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  is probably a good thing and actually is a beautifully
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  written book. It's just if you're not on like
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  a level where you read them type of books constantly, it is too
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  hard to digest. I don't know whether I'm just
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  that stupid or well. My brains like not fully formed
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  enough but it was struggle. You just got a jelly bean in
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  there instead of Fish is bouncing around being honest.
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  I got the general part 4 part 1 of this book, but I skimmed all
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  of us. Okay.
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  That's fine. I'm sure there's lots of nuggets
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  of information, but I did start getting interested towards the
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  end. Yeah, so it's fine.
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  It's fine. This book is set in North
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  Carolina in the 1950s and then 60 feet.
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  So it sort of flips between that's why I was really confused
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  at the beginning. I was like, wait what timeline
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  are we in? And then I realized the pattern,
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  yeah, I switch. Between the younger version of
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  her and then we don't quite know what's happening with the older.
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  But yeah, so the younger versions of her at the heart of
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  its to read, it is purely because and it's actually very
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  small when you think about it. The author just rotor a
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  literate, right up until she learns to read.
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  So that's why it's really hard to read until you get to about
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  chapter 18. Yeah.
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  Then things start picking up a bit more.
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  Yeah. And then it's a lot easier to
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  read. Do I know anything about North
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  Carolina? No, no.
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  Whenever you say swamp or Marsh, I just went to Louisiana in my
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  mind. That's it.
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  And I don't even know. Nothing about, I know.
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  Nothing. I just went to mud.
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  I went to Shrek. I went to one of the greatest
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  love stories of all time. Shrek Shrek.
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  Okay, swamp Shrek is love. Shrek is life.
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  Let's Dive Right In, okay. Swamp.
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  Oh sorry correction. It's a marsh not a swamp.
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  Yeah. Marsh have light swamp to
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  disgusting that distinction at this time the book like don't
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  you dare call this a small poem like God I'm on board.
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  Okay, it's okay. We get it.
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  Give us the marsh marshmallows. Yes, we love a stinky swamp.
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  How are you breaking the rules already, the first rule about
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  Marsh is it not said that? This is the first rule of marsh
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  Club, okay? So we don't, we don't know much
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  about her mama. The first thing we hear about
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  her mama, is she just fucking walked out in her alligator
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  booties? And I'm here, gator boots, her
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  gator boots, her, gait a boot. She's like, these are going to
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  fetch me a pretty penny. When I make it to the city,
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  while I'm strolling through the forest.
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  And you know what? I Almost judged her, almost
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  almost until. And this is exactly how par was
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  even brought into it. His first quote in the entire
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  book was where's dinner and I was like, done done divorce.
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  It's not quit. I quit and sold it all made
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  sense. It all made sense.
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  And you know what? I'm disappointed in him than
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  most surprisingly enough? I'm disappointed in him.
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  The most I'm not surprised I'm yeah, but there was a bit of a
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  Redemption are That's a tie but we'll get back.
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  We'll get to that West Wing, Zachary on.
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  So we're only being we're being introduced to par we understand
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  that it's in the 50s. So this is a different time a
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  different place. I don't have much of my own
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  personal information to back any of this, on the time, just on
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  time. On that little Marsh.
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  Marsh boat - boat, I'm winding down.
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  That Marsh, you're winding. I did the weeds.
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  So, my leaves mmm because pars like, alcohol and asshole.
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  He's an Alcoholic, these on eight ability were made for
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  walking, and I want my children. And then, you know, the all the
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  other children followed. Very imagine.
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  While like actually so this is the saddest story.
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  I think I've ever read it. I will be just a laughing.
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  You did it giggling. I can't do.
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  Ya know it. It's like you're trying to be
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  really sad for her but then they say shit like gator boots and
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  then there's something about that Vixen of a fox just left
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  her kids laughing. How come our is hot?
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  Her mom's hot. She's hot and I get it.
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  She is the moment. She is young, so there's nothing
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  hotter than a woman in a gated boot.
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  Paints. Are you kidding?
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  Yeah, yeah. And she just walks out of her
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  family's life, she's like by, if this was 2022, she would be the
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  girl with Patchwork tattoos palings doing Pottery.
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  That's the mum, an artistic Queen in her gator boots.
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  Mmm. The thing I guess that we don't
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  get much is why and I know this is sort of part of it, why
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  didn't you at least take any of the youngest one at least.
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  Yeah, because her so Kyra is the youngest of.
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  I don't know how much pain. There's a fair few.
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  There's yeah, yes. And then her brother Jodi, whose
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  real name is Jeremy, so they all don't go by their names is seven
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  years older. So he leaves when he's 14, he's
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  out of it. And I'm pretty sure it goes.
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  Then it goes like 16, 21 23. Yep, or something.
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  So she's substantially younger. At least the mom could have
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  taught her. I know.
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  So we understand that Kaya is the main character.
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  So we're seeing all of this through her eyes and at the very
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  beginning, I think she's six. Yeah, that's the youngest we see
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  her and that's why it's really hard to read and her mom walks
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  out and then we sort of just getting a landscape of where
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  she's actually living in the people around her.
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  There was like a little, a lot of weird world-building moments
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  that really didn't need to be in there but it's fine.
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  I feel Like we needed that because I me having no context
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  was like, okay. Give me all the cons.
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  Yeah. But I don't care about the
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  Piggly. Wiggly.
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  The judgmental staff at the Piggly.
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  Wiggly, where did I get this quote from?
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  You can be Captain. I think it was when she was
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  hanging out with us. One of her siblings as her
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  sister left, didn't she? The older one and then Jodie
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  left. Yeah, so Jodi was the last one
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  to leave. They kind of dissolve left in
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  and water. Just imagine all of your
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  siblings slowly disappearing without even wanting or telling
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  you. And then you're just Last one
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  left. You lost one and you have no
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  life skills and no communication.
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  Yeah. She's living off grits.
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  By the way, that's foul. I had to Google.
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  What? Great?
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  It's disgusting. I never knew what it was.
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  It's just crushed up corn. It's slop like yeah, gets mixed
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  into like a porridge E-Type consistency, but the thing is
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  grits to us is dog food. Yeah.
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  Dry dog food. So whenever I look at Ritz, I
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  think When I think about the word grits I'm like, it's got to
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  be hard crispy. Yeah, it would make sense for it
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  to be crispy. Not creamy and wonder what that
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  tastes like. Sade prison food sloppy.
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  Are you kidding already? So yeah.
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  Well her siblings are gone she's left with her abusive ask Dad.
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  Yeah, who just goes off at days at a time and this is even when
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  she's six. Yeah.
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  I don't keep really knows that they all left.
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  I'm pretty sure he's. So he's out of it.
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  Yeah, he's an alcoholic. He comes.
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  Back one day and he's just like, oh, where is everyone?
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  Not even his wife. Does he properly investigate
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  Where She Went sort of thing? Yeah, he didn't even respond
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  about it. He's like, we're in an era where
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  our and there was some of the when he the thing I struggled
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  with the most, in the first couple of parts has the randomly
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  added words, she'd be like, Park us dogged out.
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  The fuck, does that mean? He said what she says, Park
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  Hospital dogged out like dog, like a wolf but that would be
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  The other things like there was one key frog limp to his boat.
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  And with the fuck you must be particular way to limp body frog
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  went right back into that house. It was just adding more
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  description for us just in case. You know what pissed me off
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  about the brother leaving. He slapped down.
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  You're so mad already when Jody left.
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  And he talks to Kya one-on-one for a second and she sort of got
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  the idea. He's probably going to fuck off
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  now. He literally goes You'll
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  understand when you're older. She really knows that her dad's
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  an abusive alcoholic asshole. Despite she hides in the marsh
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  and she knows that he's punched up her mum.
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  He's she's seen it. There's actually a bit in the
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  end of this part where she flashes back to when she was
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  getting belted. Yep, bare ass on the table.
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  She does not have to be older to understand that because he just
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  goes you'll understand when you're older.
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  It's like so you just going to leave her there and you just
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  want to leave her to be the sole childlike.
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  I know that was probably more her mum's responsibility to take
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  her but as the older-brother Other seven years, older, I'm
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  on, I'm pretty sure the oldest kid that left was 21 at the time
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  23. So there she is, just living in
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  the swamp. Not knowing, when her dad's
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  going to come back all the time. Yeah, imagine that trying to
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  work out food. She's a living off grits and
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  turnips. And then he comes back one day
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  and he actually gives her a dollar out of his disability
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  payment. Yes.
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  Because he was injured at War and I think it only gets her
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  grits and a candle or something. I only loved her when she was a
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  little kid. I'd say things like this little
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  piggy went to Market just randomly in there.
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  I'm like, yeah. And then it was like this little
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  piggy was lost. One home was something, I was
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  like, oh my God, stop it. Stop it.
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  Yeah. So she had one dollar in loose
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  coins and that was food for the whole week, three for the whole
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  week and dad was pretty much like, yeah, you're old enough.
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  You're going to do these chores that chores.
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  That's what's going to. Yeah, you know, that's what's
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  going to get you by for the $1 and loose coins per week.
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  That's foul. Yeah, I don't know.
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  So she's visiting town for the first time ever, so that would
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  be intimidating. Oh, yeah.
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  At six and everyone treats her like, she's a legitimate gutter
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  rat, like she has a choice, like she has a choice.
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  I know, she says, shoeless. She probably has a bomb in the
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  marsh. She just climbed out of the
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  marsh whenever she needs to go Little Brush man.
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  And can you imagine people in their little Frills and dainty
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  clothes? Just being like, Oh, I did.
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  Yeah. Duh, no, she looked at my
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  children. It's real.
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  When they describe her going into town, they described her
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  going along the road, but every single time someone left, they
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  went through the forest. So I'm wondering if they're just
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  a town over some something better and she's just very
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  unaware. I think she has to vote to get
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  close enough to town. I don't know what was going on
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  that first time though. It made it seem like they're
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  deep in the marsh like they have to use a boat to get somewhere
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  to be on a road. Yes, the idea that I got imagine
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  having to use the drive-thru window because you have a
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  vagina. Why?
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  For so the Piggly Wiggly. Yeah, there's the storefront,
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  where you can walk in if your proper and white.
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  Yeah. And then the drive-thru and
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  mail, the drive-thru is for women and asked to skimmed,
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  right through the mistake was sort of explaining the system.
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  Yeah so she was smart enough. Do not go right into the store
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  because that's mainly for men to go in and talk to the Palace.
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  It is like front facing people. And then the, the little Butler
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  window on the side is for a few female and I can do like no,
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  that makes no sense. Because if you think about
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  females do all the chores, well, I get in my cat setting like
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  this. Maybe they weren't allowed to
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  barter though, check the prices speak properly in the store
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  itself. And then, if you weren't even
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  white, don't even think about it, you've got a whole nother
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  town you live in. You don't, you're not even
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  allowed the Casual racism. Well yeah, yeah.
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  It wasn't even casual. It's in your face.
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  It's yeah, that's why. I mean actual systemic racism,
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  the actual racism. Yes, colored tint.
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  So don't even think about it. So in, in a way, she has a step
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  above simply by being wide, but then it's not much because they
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  treat her. Like complete gonna gas like a
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  little yield the river. Yeah, this whole town is trash
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  is full of trash white people, that's it.
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  Yeah, I love how she literally got cold.
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  Trash. I'm not a god.
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  Like she is a Piggly Wiggly staff even know it was some
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  random lady because they kneel it.
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  These kids nearly knocked her off.
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  You riding past them, you can clearly see she's a small child
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  that has got no fucking shoes on.
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  Can't that have had her hair's probably mattered and you're
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  like, oh I was uh, swamp crash not like oh can I buy you lunch?
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  Are you kidding? They didn't have money to give
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  they didn't not going to be charitable towards and she
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  didn't have anyone to defend. End her and she sticks just
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  going to fall down by yourself. It's just a bit wild.
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  Anyway, the town is foul and that's all that matters.
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  Hmm, so she picked up like a big bag.
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  Grits for that one dollar, I can just lie, big bag.
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  I'm big bad home later. She sort of just pondering to
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  herself and then she's like, I reckon I'm 17.
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  Now since my birth he didn't reckon.
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  She tells birds that she feeds her grits too.
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  Yeah. Her only Friends.
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  All the birds. Yeah.
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  In the marsh, the most of the slide follow me living
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  creatures. Yeah.
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  Just a monk's. The Wilderness, really?
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  Yeah, if you think about it, she's got no other way to live.
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  She's a Wilderness girl if they weren't poor.
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  And she was well fed involved. Look after.
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  And I just saw, she would probably be living the kid's
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  dream. If it, you know, you took away
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  that alcoholic. Father, everything old every
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  everything else. Yeah.
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  True. Because What kid wouldn't want
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  to live amongst nature like that?
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  I feel like if you let kids never bathe, they would love
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  that. Just being naked out in the
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  middle of nowhere. They would get hurt and die but
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  still, they would love it. Oh yeah, they probably get like
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  scary or something, you know. So by this stage, we're familiar
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  with who Kaya is and her situation and then we do a bit
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  of a Time Warp and I was a bit confused at first but I caught
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  it on after a while so we are introduced to chase Andrews.
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  Yeah, as a grown man. Yeah was found so.
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  By the age he would have been about 23.
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  I think so early 20s. Yep, found dead.
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  In the wash. Mmm.
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  Pushed off about town. What to tell.
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  Ya look like he fell. Yeah.
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  And then there was potentially Footprints cleaned away or he
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  was on his own. Yeah we're getting the police
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  description of what's happened, I guess.
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  Yeah. But we don't know much about
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  Chase Andrews. Really?
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  Not like he's one of the bullies out of school so far.
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  He's He's one of the kids that knocked her over with the bike.
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  He's got the best bike. Apparently, he's got the best
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  bike at this point. Chase when he was dead.
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  He was a quarterback married married fucking around with
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  every other woman in town. The problem with Chase Andrews
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  is you never know who the actual culprit could be?
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  Because if you think about it, if he is messing around with all
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  these married women. Yeah, of course all their
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  husbands are going to easily after.
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  Yeah. He Little wrap the way they
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  describe this exact right moment.
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  They go come on it. You know how Chase was tomcat
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  and run around like a pinball? Let out for he was married after
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  he was married with single girls married women.
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  I seen Randy dogs at a bitch that happy.
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  I know he was getting it, he was everywhere.
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  I would be the little SD D Gremlin of the Town.
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  Well, I feel like back in the day they weren't as aware of
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  sexually transmitted infections night.
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  So maybe he took himself out he's like I'm causing too much.
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  Will and physical damage. He fell off the towel while like
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  pondering his life because he's got an itchy dick because he's
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  like, I don't know what medications are going on.
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  So they don't have much to go on the people around his age with
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  the ones who found him in the middle of nowhere.
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  No, I think it was younger boys. All right, because I get
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  confused. It's not.
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  Okay. So there was some younger boys
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  who saw his dead body and then they freaked out backtracked and
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  went straight to the chef. It was that the sheriff was kind
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  of confused about. About if, when they usually go
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  out there, especially Chase, they usually go out with a pack
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  of people and they were like, where are the footprints wise
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  him by himself? Writes going on, and they're
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  sort of speculating. Maybe he got involved with
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  drugs. I don't know why drugs would be
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  deep in the marsh, but probably to be hidden.
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  I mean nothing. So maybe he went to go do a drug
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  deal and it went bad and then ya got clocked or they were
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  thinking he's had a lot of Affairs.
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  He's been running around town and it's not shoe, it's a small
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  town. Oh yeah, everybody would know
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  his business. Yeah.
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  Why is he still in this town? If he's this big, don't want a
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  little bit and start again. I know it's just interesting but
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  maybe because he got married there.
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  But anyway, that's about as much as we get from that particular
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  chapter or so we're introduced to him.
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  So obviously he's got something to do with her somehow.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would be convinced to go to
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  school for a chicken pie for free, ah, hundred chicken like,
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  real chicken and eating nothing. She's eating grits and you know,
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  what's really sad about that? That is her not going back to
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  school because she was bullied enough.
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  So she gave up a free meal. Yeah.
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  And not even just chicken pie, he got dessert, she got milk
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  banana pudding or whatever she gave it all up because she
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  couldn't even spell dog, she smoked a backwards so she didn't
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  technically get it wrong. Well, that was her first day it
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  was, can you imagine? You haven't been taught
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  anything? What, a shit teacher.
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  Why would you get her up in front of the class?
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  Wouldn't you pull her aside? And be like oh where are you at?
• 19:45
  Or at least For day to absorb anything first.
• 19:47
  Got on like a. But at least she did say no.
• 19:50
  We don't. We, don't make fun.
• 19:54
  Let's not wait to get. My name is Caius.
• 19:56
  Miss Dyas. The dummy is teacher.
• 19:58
  Would you get your degree? No, we're probably a milk carton
• 20:02
  the Piggly Wiggly. The way that she was so hungry
• 20:05
  at lunch though and she's still saved a bit for the birds late.
• 20:08
  I know. That's so cute.
• 20:09
  So cute. And are you kidding?
• 20:11
  I'd be there every day. I'd be like, watch me gain some
• 20:13
  weight. Yeah.
• 20:15
  Watch. Because she hasn't even it
• 20:17
  sounds like she hasn't even eaten chicken.
• 20:19
  Well, they used to have chickens, but I mean it's not an
• 20:22
  everyday occurrence yafo. She has saltine crackers or
• 20:25
  something to get salt in her group.
• 20:27
  Hmm. Yep.
• 20:30
  Traumatic. That's rough.
• 20:31
  It was traumatic. So she's running around home
• 20:34
  after and feeding the birds and everything and then she stands
• 20:37
  on this big nail. How did she lose her foot?
• 20:41
  It just like I'm like, how'd it go?
• 20:43
  I've been thinking about this is the entire time.
• 20:45
  Is it was like one chapter she got really pain in her, back
• 20:49
  from everything. She had a mud dragon.
• 20:51
  It, I didn't even read the pipe, they pulled it out.
• 20:54
  I think she stood on it, and then for some reason and she's
• 20:56
  still like, only seven at this age or whatever.
• 20:59
  She understood that she might need a tetanus shot, but she
• 21:02
  didn't know how to get it. Yeah.
• 21:03
  And then, she put her foot, like, I mean, I guess even know
• 21:06
  any better at that age, but she literally dipped look, soaked.
• 21:10
  Afoot in the marsh in the bacteria filled much.
• 21:14
  Imagine All the bacteria just like sorry.
• 21:17
  Like I'm confused. How she still has a foot me too.
• 21:21
  When she had no flipped, she's lucky.
• 21:23
  She didn't get tetanus. I guess she God, she didn't get
• 21:27
  a shot. She didn't have medicine.
• 21:28
  She didn't have any, she got a little twinge in my back, and
• 21:32
  she was paranoid each day. She was like, at least if I
• 21:35
  survive for two whole days in my mouth, is still able to be open,
• 21:38
  then I'll be okay. Oh, my God.
• 21:40
  And then her first already after, that was on her pirate
• 21:43
  day was picking up all the nails.
• 21:45
  But her dad was not there this whole time.
• 21:48
  Yeah. How do you a deadbeat dad?
• 21:49
  Like this? When you go, where do you sleep?
• 21:52
  What are you doing? I'm assuming he's off drinking
• 21:54
  and gambling with do. Do that fucking 72 hours
• 21:57
  straight and then go home? How does that work?
• 22:00
  He doesn't have much motivation to go home.
• 22:02
  I guess, I don't even know if he cares about checking in, if
• 22:05
  she's alive on Earth, comes in and says, oh, where is
• 22:08
  everybody, actually, that's what makes me really, really sad.
• 22:10
  Because after that, he's actually starts checking in on
• 22:14
  them, I know. Oh, so we're back with the chase
• 22:17
  Andrew situation. Mmm, I love how the policeman
• 22:21
  he's trying to keep things under wraps.
• 22:22
  He's like, okay, let's not just tell everybody what's going on.
• 22:25
  It's a small town. Everyone's going to know that
• 22:27
  this guy died immediately as soon as those kids go back and
• 22:30
  tell their families. Well, they kept the kids there
• 22:33
  until the parents were told first.
• 22:34
  Yeah, I wonder what they're like because it seems like he came
• 22:38
  from a privileged family and he's quite young to die.
• 22:41
  If he's 23 years, early 20s, he also sounded like a little
• 22:45
  while. I told her.
• 22:46
  Yeah, but I guess he was getting away with being an asshole and
• 22:50
  they are Church like it was probably okay to cheat on your
• 22:53
  wife if you were the man. Well yeah, true they did say he
• 22:56
  was very privileged because they were paying for all his bills
• 23:00
  and like is spark plugs and everything which I thought was a
• 23:02
  very interesting ad when we realize that she needs spark
• 23:05
  plugs later. So, mmm, okay, yeah.
• 23:09
  Anyway, the police trying to contain, it just made me laugh.
• 23:11
  Everyone will know straight away but the Star Quarterback or the
• 23:14
  foot. Oh yeah, you can.
• 23:15
  Even today, they'd be like, where is he exactly didn't come
• 23:18
  for his spark plug or vaginas today.
• 23:21
  I loved how one of the cops was kind of like, oh, surely that it
• 23:27
  won't be a jealous husband and the other ones like pretty sure
• 23:30
  someone would try and kill him over that.
• 23:32
  Yeah, hello. He fucked your wife, you just
• 23:36
  turns around and goes hey, hold on, hold on.
• 23:40
  It's like your missus saying about this, Chase injuries
• 23:43
  bloke. He just trying to keep it.
• 23:46
  That's not a motivating factor, it wasn't like open so I didn't
• 23:51
  hide all my trap. Dennis didn't spear see theory
• 23:56
  about what's gonna happen down the track.
• 23:57
  Yeah, it's just by, is it the call that we justify scope?
• 24:00
  Not know how the world Works, isn't relationships the number
• 24:04
  one factor in? I honestly think these are the
• 24:07
  dumbest cops ever done with than Cairo right now.
• 24:14
  No offense chief. He is like seven so it's not
• 24:16
  like she's getting that, he's getting the, she's getting
• 24:19
  scoped potential. That's what matters.
• 24:21
  These cops are fully grown, they have no excuse your dumb dumb
• 24:24
  ideas that they were privileged. They went to school.
• 24:27
  So they're just talk about how he's big ho he'd been getting
• 24:31
  around with all them bitches. I feel like being a cop is
• 24:34
  almost a license to be a gossip and then when they went to the
• 24:37
  town shop to pick something up online the restaurant or
• 24:41
  whatever. Yeah, I got food later.
• 24:43
  The fact that they were like nah, let's get out of here
• 24:45
  before. These conversations?
• 24:46
  Get out of control. I'm like, are you kidding?
• 24:47
  I be talking to every single person.
• 24:49
  Yeah, license for everyone to Spill the tea to me.
• 24:51
  I mean, that's where they started with the Moscow anyway,
• 24:54
  because how like he had a thing with Moscow on like and Wagner.
• 24:58
  Where's the intel on the naughty doing my fire questioning every
• 25:01
  single fucking person in that restaurant.
• 25:03
  I've been questioning how a marsh girl with no fucking foot
• 25:08
  with a dead body. I don't even think she has a
• 25:18
  shower. No, no.
• 25:19
  She she washes itself in the marsh, but don't you think?
• 25:22
  As the cop you should be getting in all those conversations?
• 25:26
  Probably townspeople are going to know everything.
• 25:28
  Probably job a lot easier, a lot easier.
• 25:32
  He's like, no, peace out. This is all.
• 25:34
  This is all just too much drama for me.
• 25:35
  All of this relevant, chatter already do this women will talk
• 25:40
  this woman talk. I don't know if I'll be allowed
• 25:42
  in the restaurant, Emily, I don't know, I might have to
• 25:44
  order it. On just in the rain, it's fine
• 25:47
  outside. Might get murdered by the men
• 25:50
  that go inside. Just send your man in to go.
• 25:52
  Fetch something. Is he paying?
• 25:55
  Well, yeah, and you're not allowed to hold currency.
• 25:58
  Well then the doggy better go fetch.
• 26:01
  The tables have turned. Imagine that though.
• 26:05
  You actually play in your life around the barriers that you're
• 26:08
  not allowed to have because you have a vagina.
• 26:10
  I don't even think about it. I don't think about it.
• 26:12
  I don't think about it because we have come further.
• 26:15
  Other, but not my fault. Thankful Lord, I think that
• 26:19
  Lord, the Lord, imagine if women weren't allowed to online shop.
• 26:23
  Oh my God. The economy would collapse
• 26:26
  imagine if they're like, no, no. You have to get your man to do.
• 26:29
  I believe. So, depressed.
• 26:30
  You know how much I window shop called?
• 26:32
  The little know you could Window Shop, but you have to get your
• 26:35
  man's to actually do the transaction?
• 26:38
  Well, well, well financial crisis 2022.
• 26:45
  The entire stock in the straps. We're going inflows that because
• 26:49
  they'd come back with the toilet from product.
• 26:52
  Oh my God. It's like when you send them off
• 26:54
  to do grocery shopping and then they come back with nothing, you
• 26:56
  need a lot. Like have you seen the
• 26:58
  tick-tocks where they have to print out a little pictures
• 27:00
  shoes? Yes, don't get me started.
• 27:03
  Do not How they the smarter in quotations?
• 27:08
  Breed. Yeah.
• 27:09
  Only this model on the visual people Emily.
• 27:13
  That's why they can dump you at a moment's notice.
• 27:15
  If you gain 5 kilos, oh sorry. One kilo.
• 27:19
  Giving them too much leeway. I toast.
• 27:22
  What is your foot fetish today? Unintentional?
• 27:27
  I'm just really concerned about how she still has a foot.
• 27:30
  The logistics are not there, I don't know, I don't know, maybe
• 27:33
  she lost to talk, Maybe. You just has little nail home.
• 27:37
  It's just plugged up with Maj mud.
• 27:42
  She's like that'll do. Yep.
• 27:43
  Just makes it go faster. Aerodynamics.
• 27:49
  That's why she's pulling all these men because he's got that
• 27:51
  little ants of no flash. She's got an extra hole with
• 27:55
  eyes like extra holes. Okay.
• 28:04
  Um right. So this is something I really
• 28:07
  noticed about this book is that it was constant food, talk.
• 28:10
  And I know that that was because of its setting up the extreme
• 28:14
  poverty and it's setting up how bad things were.
• 28:16
  It was constant. It was, like, do I have to know
• 28:18
  what to eat for breakfast? Lunch and dinner.
• 28:20
  It was great putting me off. Yeah.
• 28:25
  Absent changed. Fruits today.
• 28:28
  Chris tomorrow. Oh, I think I'm having grits on
• 28:32
  Sunday. It was a point when she was just
• 28:34
  pulling shit out of the marsh to put it in the creek.
• 28:36
  Oh my God, but that was a bit where it was like turnip greens.
• 28:40
  So, where are the turnips? She used them all, they were in
• 28:44
  a goddess of a just weeds because she would put weeds in
• 28:48
  the Grits on weed grits. She just just open her and
• 28:54
  little grit shop. Yeah.
• 28:56
  You know how. When you get called Rock ice
• 28:59
  cream later. She's like you got to weed.
• 29:06
  So I got muscles. Yeah, one day.
• 29:11
  Her dad actually comes home and he's Loki sober.
• 29:15
  Well she wanted to be able to use his boat.
• 29:17
  So she was kind of trying to butter him up and she did a few
• 29:19
  more chores around the house. Watch TV.
• 29:22
  I made dinner and coffee. Did the woman work sheet.
• 29:25
  Yeah. And he's like, oh, you're not so
• 29:27
  useless after all. Like he came home one day and
• 29:29
  he's like, and then this is where I got really sad.
• 29:34
  Yeah. Again again, again, this this
• 29:37
  book sort of just drops you even lower than you thought you could
• 29:39
  go each time you just keep going down.
• 29:42
  So this is the start of her and her dad actually having a
• 29:45
  relationship is he was still drinking but he was not drinking
• 29:48
  his smart shell gone fishing every day coming home more
• 29:51
  often. He was Coming home.
• 29:53
  Now having dinner together. They were talking, he, she
• 29:56
  collects feathers and stuff. So he gave her his old army
• 30:00
  nappy sacks, so she could collect and put it in and it's
• 30:04
  called a knapsack knapsack, that'd be that'd be sick?
• 30:07
  I reckon. I know it's knapsack and I just
• 30:09
  do not care. No, I like nappies.
• 30:11
  Akmal and Nappy smack smack. It blasphemy Finally getting
• 30:23
  along. You know what pisses me off
• 30:24
  about this though, dad comes back and they're actually
• 30:27
  talking, she lets her go out on the boat because he was laughing
• 30:30
  because he's like, you're a girl.
• 30:32
  And she's like, yes, I'm your girl.
• 30:34
  I know it's so sad. I was like, did he forget?
• 30:37
  Did you forget? They could have been fucking
• 30:40
  fishing for dinners this whole time.
• 30:42
  Yeah, she didn't know how to fish at all, but he could have
• 30:46
  at least done some fishing for her at all.
• 30:49
  He would do is give her some coins and be like, man.
• 30:52
  Yeah. Yes, that pissed.
• 30:55
  Me off. I was like, par.
• 30:56
  You're really letting the team down.
• 30:57
  There's only one leg. I'm pretty sure his name is
• 31:00
  like, Jackson or something to he was Jake.
• 31:03
  Still this. It's still a Jet Plane energy,
• 31:05
  same energy. Same vibe off with the jeans off
• 31:08
  with the Jane we've done with jeans.
• 31:10
  Absolutely, please just monitoring in my mind who were
• 31:13
  dating, like, hold on. We're dating someone of the same
• 31:20
  starting letter. So I think we're good.
• 31:22
  That's correct, that's right. Pop, I actually called her hon.
• 31:27
  I know and it's really sad, didn't super fun.
• 31:30
  But you know what? I thought, maybe he's trying to
• 31:32
  recruit her this multi-level marketing.
• 31:35
  No, no, he's got Scentsy or something.
• 31:43
  He looks since the new traumatic say, slowly Wheels out.
• 31:47
  This not sack of meat. Reddick's covered in mud.
• 31:52
  Hey hon. I know we haven't talked in a
• 31:54
  long time and he's like, yeah. My mind just went straight
• 32:02
  there. But anyway I always fuck up and
• 32:04
  touching moment so that's just my brain doing that to a
• 32:07
  profound thought about it. But it's fun.
• 32:09
  You just, you're pissing myself and I'm just like Full of Tears.
• 32:16
  So that was nice. He acknowledged her as a human
• 32:18
  being. He started talking to her as if
• 32:21
  there was a sense of family and she was kind of, she had a guard
• 32:24
  up there. Even at that young age, she was
• 32:26
  like, I don't know if my mom's ever come, there was like a
• 32:29
  point, right before he fucked it all up, again where they had
• 32:34
  money and they he took her to a restaurant and they went and
• 32:36
  actually had a couple meal dessert and everything and then
• 32:41
  that was like a last interaction.
• 32:43
  They act like that made, it even more rough.
• 32:46
  And also like the fuck and it was all over and letter from her
• 32:49
  mom that she couldn't read and didn't get to read.
• 32:52
  Well, he sort of just stormed off became prick again.
• 32:55
  Yeah. And then he was like, she ain't
• 32:57
  never coming back. It's like, yeah.
• 32:58
  But why her fault? That's yeah why, why are you not
• 33:02
  coming back if you know how hard it is?
• 33:05
  He was getting to a point in the book to where he wasn't drinking
• 33:08
  as much and he would forget it and drink tea when they went
• 33:11
  out. So he wasn't even drinking, he
• 33:13
  was getting good for a bit there but we don't know what's going.
• 33:16
  Going on in pause life. Yeah, because it's not always
• 33:19
  that, he's not always there, but she did say it was really sad,
• 33:23
  bit, the whole books, fucking miserable.
• 33:26
  It was like, I hope that now that he's getting decent, they
• 33:30
  can get back together, but that's her age talking.
• 33:34
  Yeah, but that's so sad, but she's so shut off from the world
• 33:38
  to. So she doesn't just doesn't get
• 33:41
  it back in the day. You could just drop off the face
• 33:44
  of the Earth, whether it's the mom, whether it's a dad, you
• 33:46
  Change your name with fucked it all the kids go.
• 33:49
  No one will know. Where did they go?
• 33:52
  How do I have money to go anywhere?
• 33:54
  Could just Rebrand yourself. Well, they had nothing in the
• 33:56
  marsh anyway. Yeah.
• 33:57
  So chances are they're better off.
• 34:00
  Living with a friend Jody car. Maybe they go work on a farm or
• 34:03
  something or, oh, no, let's go to be better opportunities out
• 34:07
  there than living in a mosquito. He's Marsh but just imagine that
• 34:11
  you could just Rebrand your whole life.
• 34:13
  Yeah. Pretend you don't even have kids
• 34:15
  who's going to know. You don't have a paper trail.
• 34:17
  Not who cares? I feel them.
• 34:19
  So, what was in that letter? And if we ever find out, well,
• 34:22
  he burnt it. Like how he burns everything.
• 34:25
  Yeah, I'm surprised you didn't do that.
• 34:26
  Last dress, that was left over. I hope she probably hit it.
• 34:30
  So the next couple of chapters is nothing too intense.
• 34:34
  Mmm, it's essentially, she's worked out her dad's not coming
• 34:38
  back so she's selling muscles for money for food and gas and
• 34:45
  then it gets to a point where she's trying to beat other
• 34:47
  people out for selling muscle. Yes.
• 34:50
  And then she doesn't, so then she like smokes fish.
• 34:54
  That no one wants to eat but then, they end up taking it and
• 34:57
  swapping her. Hmm.
• 34:58
  A whole heap of supplies. So that's jumping and Mabel.
• 35:01
  Yeah, Mabel is a National Treasure.
• 35:04
  She is a beaut. She is a queen, the things that
• 35:08
  she actually donated her her was just crazy, like the fact that
• 35:11
  she could actually have some clothes and shoes that fit.
• 35:13
  Yeah, that was just a man. It was like, a constant Supply
• 35:17
  right up until what are we when she's 16 by the end of the part
• 35:22
  one yet? So, she's the one constant
• 35:23
  supply of candles grits. Like they don't leave her
• 35:28
  hanging. Hmm.
• 35:29
  Maybe And jump in are black. So they're lovely.
• 35:33
  People have come on and they live in Holland.
• 35:35
  Town. Now, the author has been known
• 35:38
  for being something apart of something racist.
• 35:41
  The author has been a. Yeah, a scandal.
• 35:44
  So there's a couple of all of the terms that should not come
• 35:47
  up in the book. I don't know if you skim past
• 35:49
  it, you read it. But I feel like this woman
• 35:53
  fucking described everything in great detail.
• 35:56
  I feel like she could have just alluded to it.
• 35:58
  And instead of actually using Thinking.
• 36:00
  Hmm, why could you give me a whole page about what the Piggly
• 36:03
  Wiggly look like, but you can't elude.
• 36:07
  Yep, to something. Yeah, without using the actual
• 36:10
  language. Yeah.
• 36:11
  So just questionable choices with questionable twice as but
• 36:15
  essentially Kya taxis to kids because I've been bit racist,
• 36:19
  extremely racist, racist, jumping, and then that's all you
• 36:23
  ever hear about that again. I love her Jam Jar attack
• 36:27
  though. I know I loved it.
• 36:28
  I was like, I guess she got Better.
• 36:30
  Yeah. Well, they didn't see her, which
• 36:32
  was kind of like, he could to. Yeah.
• 36:34
  She was just in and out. She's in and out.
• 36:36
  And she was angry because she did, I guess she doesn't
• 36:39
  understand the full situation of what's going on.
• 36:42
  If she knew as a cuss word because their dads used it as a
• 36:45
  cuss word. Yeah.
• 36:46
  So she was not completely understanding but I feel like it
• 36:49
  could have just been left out. I never go into the authors too
• 36:53
  much, because I only seen it by accident because I was looking
• 36:56
  up the trailer for the movie. Yeah.
• 36:59
  Okay. Okay and it come up on
• 37:01
  Tick-Tock. I've only seen the girl's face
• 37:03
  on the book cover. That's it.
• 37:04
  Oh yeah, she's the girl out of that weird cannibal movie.
• 37:08
  Oh, what weird? Kind of the one with Sebastian
• 37:11
  Stan. And I haven't seen that one.
• 37:13
  It's where he kidnaps and cuts up girls and shit.
• 37:17
  Should I watch that? Have you seen it?
• 37:19
  All right. Mmm watching.
• 37:20
  Yeah, I was gonna say I'm sorry bu movie.
• 37:22
  That's why I was concerned that I watched it.
• 37:25
  I was like, what anywho? Actually we haven't even
• 37:29
  mentioned tape. Really nice.
• 37:30
  He came up. Before he comes up for a little
• 37:33
  bit, he helps her get home back when she was seven.
• 37:36
  Yeah. When she was a little one, she
• 37:38
  had a baby. And what we learn about Tate is
• 37:40
  he's the same. No, he's not the same age as
• 37:42
  Jodi but they were friends. Yeah.
• 37:45
  So I think Jody is a bit older who's fishing friends with him
• 37:47
  so it must have been neighbors sort of situation.
• 37:49
  I suppose because Tate is 18 when she's 14.
• 37:53
  Yeah and that would mean that in years.
• 37:57
  Yeah he's like a marsh kid. Yeah, he's a smart kid.
• 38:01
  Also cute little bean and she's only little so she doesn't
• 38:04
  really understand crushes or anything like that.
• 38:07
  She's kind of like I just want to have a friend and she said
• 38:08
  how she waved towards him when she was in the boat with parwan
• 38:12
  time and he's like you can't trust nobody.
• 38:15
  Well there's always the same. Yeah well why don't you fucking
• 38:22
  hang around more dad idiot. How she supposed to know?
• 38:25
  Protect yourself a sister said you can't trust anyone.
• 38:28
  They take advantage of you. And that's a bit soft because
• 38:31
  it's kind of like, what's Dad doing that.
• 38:33
  We, I honestly do about it to be fair.
• 38:35
  I honestly, thought for the first half of the book that the
• 38:38
  dad did sa everyone. That's what I was scared of
• 38:42
  because you, I was get the host and where I was the whole time,
• 38:45
  I was like, there is no way. He hasn't, I feel like from what
• 38:50
  we know he's physically and obviously verbally abusive.
• 38:55
  Hi, they didn't typical alcoholic father but they didn't
• 38:58
  say sexual abuse. Buse.
• 39:00
  That way. I was probably the mom at all.
• 39:03
  He's probably the mom. Like she got out and walked away
• 39:05
  leaving children behind and you don't fucking do that for no
• 39:08
  reason. Yeah.
• 39:09
  Which is fucking insane. Do we have?
• 39:12
  Okay? This is a question.
• 39:13
  Do we have any sympathy for par know any because no of his
• 39:19
  trauma know what, trauma his War trauma.
• 39:24
  He didn't even have water AMA, he did no.
• 39:27
  See they said he was too scared to go out of It charges of
• 39:31
  whatever it is and he only didn't get killed in his team
• 39:36
  and became a war hero was because he didn't leave to go
• 39:40
  default. Yeah.
• 39:41
  By default and they didn't know. So I thought he witnessed some
• 39:44
  trauma traumatic thing. All right.
• 39:45
  Don't get me wrong. It's probably very excited about
• 39:48
  also, like no. Also, he decided to he was the
• 39:52
  one that decided they needed to live in the movie.
• 39:54
  Yeah. And live in the marsh and then
• 39:56
  there was a lot of bad choices that led to To and he and then
• 40:01
  they had to sell their Fine Furniture and like the mum
• 40:05
  literally pulled out address each year and ripped it up to
• 40:08
  make a smock. Mmm.
• 40:09
  Like they had nothing and they could have had more.
• 40:12
  So what we understand from when he started, when he started
• 40:14
  talking to her a little bit about the history.
• 40:16
  So he was actually well-to-do yeah and then things went wrong
• 40:19
  in his family where they lost in the ankle whatever Great
• 40:22
  Depression or something. Yeah.
• 40:24
  So they all the assets were just liquidated and he got fuck all.
• 40:27
  Yeah and then he was supposed to help out his family.
• 40:29
  Mother-in-law's business. Yeah, and he was an asshole
• 40:32
  about it and didn't properly do it.
• 40:34
  And then obviously his part, his wife, which was her mama was
• 40:38
  like, you've really got a fucking straightened out and do
• 40:40
  this job properly because she couldn't as a Mormon.
• 40:43
  Yeah. And then he just expected to be
• 40:45
  higher than a top-ranked because it's the father-in-law.
• 40:47
  Like he was entitled, he was entitled and then they just kept
• 40:50
  having children and then yeah, it was a slippery slope because
• 40:53
  he didn't do well at that job. Yeah.
• 40:55
  And then yeah, they pumped out a whole bunch of children became a
• 40:59
  wrong became abusive. Yeah.
• 41:02
  So all of these was the one that made the move from that job into
• 41:07
  the marsh into. So he just went downhill from
• 41:10
  that. He literally moved them into a
• 41:11
  fucking fishing cabin. Yeah, I know but also it was it
• 41:16
  was all because of his ego couldn't handle the failure.
• 41:20
  Oh yeah, yeah. Then what they're all supposed
• 41:21
  to just fucking live in a marsh forever because you can't
• 41:24
  handle. I just well I don't know where
• 41:26
  they all ended up, ya know. Maybe we'll never know when
• 41:30
  that's kind of the sad part about it too.
• 41:33
  Yeah, I suppose because if we never know that and she never
• 41:35
  knows, it's just a hole. Hmm.
• 41:37
  Fine. But yeah, I think the dad made
• 41:40
  so many bad choices but back in the day you didn't really have
• 41:43
  information about what domestic violence is or anything.
• 41:46
  So and you were probably told you're not allowed to get
• 41:48
  divorced and blah-di-blah so you would just walk away.
• 41:51
  Oh yeah, there's no divorce. Yeah but it's not only my
• 41:55
  support. She probably went back to her
• 41:57
  parents if they were still living, if that Or just redid
• 42:00
  the whole life somewhere else. Yeah very nice.
• 42:03
  I kind of like Jody as a nickname for a boy.
• 42:05
  That was cute. That is cute.
• 42:06
  I want of them had really long names.
• 42:09
  Hmm. So his name his real name was
• 42:11
  Jeremy. Yeah, when we got a bit of that
• 42:14
  background about the family, I was like, holy shit Maria, which
• 42:17
  was Marv, was just holding it down, she was the glue.
• 42:20
  She was the glue, because we understand a bit more about us,
• 42:23
  so she was into makeup. She as you said, was an artist
• 42:28
  she Was the main parent? She had enrolled them all in
• 42:32
  school even though they moved out to the stupid Marsh.
• 42:34
  He told him not to go, he wanted them to fish.
• 42:36
  Laughter education. Yeah so she was literally they
• 42:40
  probably all couldn't read. Yeah well they all got at the
• 42:44
  chance to go to school. While Mom was around and then
• 42:46
  she's like, peace out. Like she just hopped out.
• 42:48
  She was done. Yeah.
• 42:50
  And that's so sad, because Kai's just lost one.
• 42:52
  And she's like, oh, wait for me. Wait, for me.
• 42:54
  I want to just wash it and take her or anyone of any of them
• 42:58
  drinking. Didn't have the money.
• 42:59
  I don't understand why Jody didn't take her.
• 43:03
  Me either. That makes no sense because he
• 43:06
  knew how bad it was. Yeah.
• 43:08
  And then he was like if anyone shows up just run in the marsh.
• 43:11
  So he knows that I don't because the same thing happened to him.
• 43:16
  All his older siblings just fucking left him.
• 43:19
  I know, but he was the closest with, I know it's dumb, it's
• 43:24
  done. He should have done better but
• 43:27
  he was also a child. So not long after we find out
• 43:31
  that she's getting stuff from Abel.
• 43:33
  She starts finding feathers. Oh yes.
• 43:36
  A little little Explorations they left on the same place.
• 43:40
  Every couple of days or something and then she finds
• 43:44
  some seeds and a spark plug and it just starts from there.
• 43:49
  And it turns out Tate has been leaving her.
• 43:52
  Hmm, these gifties little gift. He's because she loves feathers,
• 43:56
  she's got a whole feather wall. Did he know that at that time?
• 43:59
  I can't remember. She probably watched it because
• 44:01
  I'm assuming she does it all the time.
• 44:03
  The time because even her dad was like, oh, you can collect
• 44:05
  your feathers to put it in this bag.
• 44:07
  Yep. He's 18.
• 44:09
  And she's 14. And she was like, she looks like
• 44:12
  a woman but all her. Mannerisms are like a child is
• 44:16
  like danger, danger danger. So, that's probably why he was
• 44:21
  proceeding with Extreme Caution. Yeah, he's leaving these
• 44:24
  feathers behind. Yeah.
• 44:25
  It was the MSN of the day. Oh yeah.
• 44:28
  And then she left him one back that.
• 44:30
  And that was nap chat of the day and not was The start of the
• 44:34
  seeds and the yeah. And she wanted to have some kind
• 44:38
  of Friendship with him along the way.
• 44:39
  It's because she sort of sometimes saw him in the marsh
• 44:41
  fishing and never approach because she's very shy, very
• 44:43
  timid, very scared, which understand, fair enough.
• 44:46
  Everyone's always told her and also she's been alone in her
• 44:50
  little Shack in the marsh and then heard all these schoolboys
• 44:54
  yelling and hollering out that they're going to run bullet.
• 44:56
  And she thought they were going to intrude the house.
• 44:58
  While it was like, it just came up in there that it was like an
• 45:01
  initiation for men to go. Go run out and tag the house
• 45:06
  does. He's casting disgusting, poor
• 45:08
  little kid and she didn't even really know what would happen to
• 45:13
  her either because she's oblivious, she's oblivious.
• 45:16
  She doesn't know that they could just bust in and assault her.
• 45:19
  So this is relatively where you start being able to read a bit
• 45:22
  clearer because when tight IT State's perspective.
• 45:25
  So tape was a little bit worried because he heard about all the
• 45:28
  rumors and some of the men were talking about taking her cherry.
• 45:32
  Hmm. And he was scared for her Leo
• 45:35
  aren't out there. Hmm.
• 45:36
  And then things progress a little bit and they actually
• 45:39
  meet in person and have a conversation by accident.
• 45:43
  Sorry. When you risk going to a foster
• 45:47
  home or keep living in the marsh few, her probably keep living in
• 45:51
  the marsh. She doesn't know any different
• 45:53
  and she's happy she's happy with her but she's happy swimming in
• 45:56
  the mosh. Hmm she doesn't know what a
• 45:59
  foster home would even really be like yeah, it could be either
• 46:02
  the best King of the worst thing for you so you probably just
• 46:04
  better off staying in the marsh. Who?
• 46:06
  Yes she doesn't know much and she is getting her supplies now.
• 46:09
  So she has a somewhat income a way to live and I mean if Mabel
• 46:14
  and jump and we'll real worried they'd probably go check on her
• 46:17
  more. Hmm, what would happen
• 46:19
  realistically if Mabel and or jumping died or moved away?
• 46:23
  Should be kind of screwed. She'd be far but she's also
• 46:25
  almost 18. Hmm, so she was making it work
• 46:29
  before they even knew anyway. Yeah.
• 46:31
  And she had enough Of what she needed I guess.
• 46:35
  So I got really awkward like their friendship continued
• 46:37
  because he was teaching her, how to read, which is good, that's
• 46:40
  very sweet, but he had a motive come on.
• 46:44
  He had a boy is gone out in the middle of the Marshal time.
• 46:47
  So originally it kind of started as him being worried and he was
• 46:51
  reminded of his younger sister. That's a bit that it to me out,
• 46:55
  he had feelings, he was confused.
• 46:57
  It was feelings about his lost sister relationship.
• 47:00
  Where do you know? But maybe he was more confused
• 47:05
  because he was like, oh well I can't protect my sister.
• 47:08
  Maybe I can help her but it's all right.
• 47:11
  They they were fine somewhat wholesome.
• 47:13
  It's somewhat old Cedar until later dirty dog.
• 47:18
  So it's it's actually really sad the bit that I thought was
• 47:22
  really sad. Is that tape knows more about
• 47:25
  her body than she does when she has her first period basically
• 47:28
  and 15 like damn girl. And the thing is with that too.
• 47:33
  After she gets her period. He says, oh you remember that
• 47:35
  pileup. What my brain is completely
• 47:41
  collapsed in himself. He brought her a textbook but he
• 47:44
  added pamphlets about periods in there.
• 47:47
  Yeah, he grabbed pamphlets and hid them in the book for that
• 47:51
  because he knows coming up, right?
• 47:53
  Which is very sweet. But she was more embarrassed
• 47:55
  because she thought she was going to go shit herself with
• 47:57
  the flow knows, it's great. She's like, I don't think I'm
• 48:01
  gonna be sick. I think I'm going to have To
• 48:03
  wear out in the forest and he's like, well, is it the same as
• 48:05
  other stomach cramps? She's having a period, she
• 48:08
  probably will as well. Yes, you probably know it's all
• 48:15
  just everything. Must go clearance clearance.
• 48:19
  So the chances are she certainly time.
• 48:21
  No one's ever constipated, but he's teaching her to read and
• 48:27
  it's so nice. But the funny thing is, I think
• 48:30
  he fell in love with her too because he had, they had the
• 48:33
  Maxine interest. Yeah, that and proximity.
• 48:38
  Yeah. The fact that he was going out
• 48:40
  there every day hormones. He is essentially a fully grown
• 48:43
  man with the 18 year old hormones, but they weren't doing
• 48:47
  physical stuff, until she was 15.
• 48:49
  And he was 19 is when they started cleaning.
• 48:53
  She had a period when she was 15.
• 48:54
  Yeah. And he even bring a little
• 48:56
  cakes. That's a plus he didn't say
• 48:58
  anything about it. She didn't want to see him and
• 49:01
  he was like, oh, I just bring some cake.
• 49:03
  It's that I had. Well, when your lady friend is
• 49:05
  on her period cakes is always the answer.
• 49:07
  Always, yeah. I don't even eat cake.
• 49:08
  But whatever it's for desserts. Just anything.
• 49:12
  Calorie-dense said anything? Delicious?
• 49:15
  Yeah I think yeah. There was a bit where they were,
• 49:20
  I guess. In a way, this was them talking
• 49:21
  about their feelings for the first time because they were
• 49:23
  about to kiss. Yeah, so tape goes.
• 49:26
  Hmm, you might be a bit God. Do I do, you might be a bit too
• 49:33
  young to be my girl. And then, and then, and then she
• 49:37
  goes. But I know feathers.
• 49:40
  So a normal baby girl. Running around chasing like a
• 49:49
  leaves doing the most childish thing ever.
• 49:51
  And then they kiss and then she's like immediately.
• 49:54
  She was like, am I your girlfriend now?
• 49:55
  And he's like, he's like, hold up.
• 49:59
  He's like, I'm still a player. I'm so horny.
• 50:03
  But that was so classic. I mean, she immediately was just
• 50:07
  like, am I your girlfriend? Yeah.
• 50:08
  Could you imagine? It's like a legitimate question?
• 50:12
  I mean, sure. Is it know where you stand
• 50:14
  ladies, but he'd applied. Immediately after that, she's
• 50:19
  like behind my feathers. Other girls.
• 50:20
  Don't know if he's like other girls.
• 50:22
  I'm not like other girls. I only just learned how to read,
• 50:25
  but I know feathers, he did not. He was like, say less, he
• 50:30
  literally says, he will literally responsible with.
• 50:33
  All right? Then it's coach.
• 50:36
  And then they kiss again, but she just sounds like you've
• 50:40
  been, but the kiss. So stiffly.
• 50:41
  The first time I'd be like, well, they don't know what
• 50:43
  they're doing. She doesn't know what she just
• 50:45
  mashing body parts together the stage.
• 50:47
  But her life, her heart was so full, so full.
• 50:50
  So full of things that she didn't know she even needed much
• 50:54
  water. It was gonna get that checked
• 50:57
  its along with her tetanus holes.
• 51:01
  Filled with he might rub it later, who rubs the wrong hole.
• 51:07
  Get a little frisky with my face, the wrong hole when you
• 51:11
  find out Tate as a book published oh my God, he's like
• 51:17
  what's this bonus whole? Hmm.
• 51:19
  But it just kept progressively gets worse.
• 51:27
  Unlike the what was going on? When all of a sudden, every
• 51:31
  second sentence was circling nipples.
• 51:33
  So I was like Mario Vanessa trapped after the next chapter,
• 51:37
  right? For this sweet, sweet.
• 51:39
  Little feather moment is him thinking about her thighs and
• 51:43
  her titties. So sperm soft by the soft eyes
• 51:46
  and how he much. He would love to see her
• 51:49
  breasts. Her Bambi is her bosoms.
• 51:56
  It was lying in bed and he was he'd be rolling.
• 51:58
  If he started thinking anything higher about it.
• 52:01
  Yeah. Thighs freaking up high up them.
• 52:04
  Sweet. Sweet Child like you Gag.
• 52:09
  Oh, I was like, hold up. I no longer enjoy this.
• 52:14
  Hold on, hold up. Are they looking into everyone
• 52:17
  who buys a copy of this book? I'm like, oh, I do appreciate
• 52:22
  that. They do not really go much
• 52:24
  further. Yeah, please stop at this point.
• 52:27
  I was getting the ick, but I mean, it was the constant
• 52:29
  circling of nipples for me. Yeah, it's like so he's a, he's
• 52:34
  a bosom boy. He doesn't know much what what
• 52:39
  much else is going on though, because he's got to be a bit
• 52:41
  naive as well. Yeah, to a degree.
• 52:44
  Yeah, he did have conversations with his dad though, because
• 52:47
  when dad was talking about the school dance and he was like,
• 52:49
  Like, she's not like other girls, she's lovely and smooth
• 52:53
  and then I wasn't I hate it. How the dad would just allude to
• 52:56
  things and not be straight up, because these are naive children
• 52:59
  that don't have access to information like we do now and
• 53:02
  the dads. Like, but do you know what I
• 53:04
  mean? That you shouldn't be starting,
• 53:05
  no families. None early down now then if I
• 53:09
  was even an IT girl boy, at that time I'd be like huh but
• 53:15
  basically you have sex education.
• 53:20
  How do you like to sit absolute still marriage back in?
• 53:23
  Yeah, that's a boy at that age. You probably wouldn't get it.
• 53:27
  Yeah. Dad wasn't doing the most but
• 53:29
  also dad was the dad of the death of who is the dad of the
• 53:33
  dad. Your dad was, was the dad of the
• 53:36
  boy. So if he did get Marsh girl
• 53:38
  pregnant, who the fuck cares? He's offered them in the marsh,
• 53:41
  but no one's gonna know. Yeah, that's gonna know with her
• 53:44
  Wild Thornberrys children to know.
• 53:50
  He will still live on and be able to be whatever he wants to
• 53:53
  be. Yeah, back to the circle.
• 53:55
  Nipple flows, back to the second your clothes.
• 53:57
  Well, doing the dishes, it was she was doing the dishes and he
• 54:02
  was like, I'll help you do the dishes.
• 54:04
  This is not Ratatouille just called And if it is Ratatouille,
• 54:09
  I don't want it to be. Mmm-hmm, the I never wear bra.
• 54:14
  She didn't are in one, you know, the one by Mabel.
• 54:17
  Yeah, but she doesn't like, you're going to have one bra.
• 54:19
  It's not going to be clean all the time.
• 54:21
  True. You're going to need it for
• 54:22
  particular occasions. She's got and she's making me
• 54:26
  big bosoms, so I don't think it really.
• 54:28
  See, must have some nice Muslims.
• 54:31
  We're hearing a lot about the nip.
• 54:32
  Not a lot about the bosom. What are you doing?
• 54:36
  Is also a child but she's slim. She's not eating a lot.
• 54:39
  Oh yeah, she hasn't got those chicken booby hormones.
• 54:42
  She's got she. Yeah she hasn't got them.
• 54:44
  Birthing hips know. She's got.
• 54:45
  Nothing's come in yet. Nothing still on pending Um
• 54:51
  okay. So they start up conversations
• 54:52
  because they're starting to get the feel he's for.
• 54:55
  Yeah. At least he recognized the age
• 54:58
  Gap? Yeah.
• 55:00
  A bit because I almost have sex. Hmm.
• 55:03
  And didn't even know what sex was and she was like, I kind of
• 55:05
  want to do it. Yeah.
• 55:07
  He was like, fingering her at the time or something.
• 55:09
  Yeah. He was just massaging who's
• 55:10
  massaging the luck. Sorry.
• 55:14
  And then he was like, the thigh She's what?
• 55:23
  Top you say one will put thing you are his money.
• 55:28
  Sorry, he's massaging me. Feel like I don't have money for
• 55:32
  this, that's why it's so risky. Do Dimension feet together?
• 55:38
  Yes. Oh, so he's just rubbing her
• 55:40
  inner thigh. Yeah.
• 55:41
  Not knowing where he's going. She had this whole needed to be.
• 55:46
  Will she know? She is she spread them legs, she
• 55:49
  had that hello feeling inside he undressed her.
• 55:52
  She's Spread them. He's had a down to the undies
• 55:56
  and he was gonna do some, he was pantsless.
• 55:59
  He was rubbing his erections past.
• 56:02
  He really does. It says he took off his pants
• 56:06
  and rubbed her with his erection naughty boy.
• 56:09
  Yeah. What do you boy?
• 56:10
  Come down but there's some down then he did calm down and then
• 56:14
  he sort of came back tracked. Yeah and then dressed her.
• 56:17
  Hmm like the little gentleman he is mmm because I've been reading
• 56:21
  their poetry and she started on Sam?
• 56:23
  What love is and what kind of, I mean, they're spending every day
• 56:26
  together. Pretty much.
• 56:27
  Yeah, a lot of time together and then he brings up, by the way.
• 56:31
  I'm a grown man, and I need to go, you need food.
• 56:34
  I'm on my way to college. I'm sorry.
• 56:37
  Can't have a teenage Marsh girlfriend anymore.
• 56:39
  Yeah, grown out of that one, grown out of that one, bro, you
• 56:43
  shouldn't have been anyway. Anyway, mmm, he's just baiting
• 56:47
  her up to be his in the field scientist when he's like, yeah,
• 56:51
  what didn't make sense was how he's like, I'm going to go, Oh
• 56:53
  study. What was it biology?
• 56:55
  Yeah, no. No.
• 56:56
  Sorry. Maureen by marine biology.
• 56:58
  Yeah. And she was like there's no jobs
• 57:00
  during them here for them. For that marine biology.
• 57:04
  Yeah. He making those promises of
• 57:06
  being like yeah. I'll totally come back because I
• 57:09
  love you and she was even thinking in her own brain.
• 57:13
  Yeah. That he's probably going to meet
• 57:15
  women at University who are beautiful, and they're
• 57:20
  privileged. And there she interesting.
• 57:22
  She says, To. And he's like, no, I'll never
• 57:25
  forget you he immediately ever forget.
• 57:28
  Oh he wouldn't say that. He never comes out of in Italy.
• 57:30
  Come back. Well, he did kind of say he will
• 57:32
  come back. Yeah, he did.
• 57:34
  But then he never come back and it's really wasn't there a time
• 57:38
  that she was kind of low-key waiting for him.
• 57:40
  I'm assuming it's, it was just so he finally went away to
• 57:44
  college and he was like, I'm coming back on July, 4th for my
• 57:48
  family. Yeah, in a month and then she
• 57:50
  just waited. That was devastating.
• 57:53
  Dating. She waited it was.
• 57:55
  Yeah, but are we surprised? No.
• 57:57
  I kind of knew that was going to happen.
• 57:59
  Anyway, I love how he's the best male character, this whole book
• 58:03
  and he still let us all down. Oh yeah, bro, where I know that
• 58:07
  together? Yeah.
• 58:09
  He's never came back. He met someone else.
• 58:12
  Dad, uni, hope she's never mind. I've no idea what.
• 58:23
  Girl, but, I mean, Tate is a nice enough guy.
• 58:28
  He's gonna be all in that co-ed. Schooling environment.
• 58:32
  Yeah. And you know what he is very
• 58:34
  polite because even when he was teaching her, if she said
• 58:37
  something wrong, he would repeat it back.
• 58:39
  Like repeat it back properly, but you wouldn't call her out
• 58:43
  for ya. So he's gonna find a girlfriend.
• 58:45
  It's not really an issue. I guess back in the day you
• 58:47
  couldn't just send a breakup text no letters or anything
• 58:52
  either. Yeah.
• 58:53
  Yeah, but it was only a month to them, it wouldn't matter to
• 58:56
  communicate broadly end of chapter 21.
• 58:58
  So chapter 20 is the July 4th her being sad by the end of 21.
• 59:04
  It goes he left and then a month went by and then a year and then
• 59:08
  another year went by so it was like years have us voting.
• 59:11
  Yeah. You know, what's really sad
• 59:13
  about it though is that this experience with tape because he
• 59:16
  was the only one she sort of built up.
• 59:17
  Trust with made her even not trust Jumpin.
• 59:20
  Yeah and Mabel in it, like she just ducked into And got the
• 59:23
  essentials. Barely talked in and left.
• 59:25
  He didn't want to see anyone who's becoming a recluse.
• 59:28
  Yep, that's so sad. I know, I slept like all this
• 59:32
  plenty more fishies in the my know about what it must be
• 59:36
  really hard when you live in the marsh like she's made people.
• 59:40
  Yes. Yes he's not very social people.
• 59:42
  Call her Marsh trash, it's won't trash hauling trash.
• 59:47
  They don't treat it any good. They think she's dirty.
• 59:49
  She probably is. Yeah.
• 59:51
  Try staying clean and him. Marsh.
• 59:53
  Hmm. I can't imagine you could.
• 59:55
  Yeah. Do you reckon?
• 59:57
  They put it in a different time period for the movie because the
• 1:00:00
  trailer they're wearing normal clothes, Define normal like what
• 1:00:04
  kind of clothes cuz I haven't seen the trailer.
• 1:00:06
  I know that there's a bit where I seen Chase.
• 1:00:09
  I CNT and I seen her and Chase is wearing a button up shirt and
• 1:00:12
  just jeans. Well, it's the ICA sixties.
• 1:00:15
  Yeah, I don't know why I'm acting like a saint either
• 1:00:17
  bunnies. Never mind for me.
• 1:00:19
  Well, I mean, yeah, I just had a moment.
• 1:00:22
  It's fine. So yeah, I wasn't really
• 1:00:25
  surprised that as soon as he got a taste of the college life, he
• 1:00:28
  was not coming back because realistically, how are they
• 1:00:31
  going to make that work? The only option like she's not
• 1:00:34
  on birth control or anything like that.
• 1:00:35
  The only option is you'd be what living in the marsh with her
• 1:00:38
  with a whole bunch of kids and she could have left the marsh
• 1:00:40
  though but she didn't want to because she was on trusting.
• 1:00:44
  He could have worked on that but also she's very young.
• 1:00:46
  So she was worried at the time that she was going to get taken
• 1:00:49
  by child services. Oh yeah.
• 1:00:50
  That was a constant worry of hers which is Sad the proposed.
• 1:00:54
  Otherwise if she wasn't getting taken by Child Services they
• 1:00:57
  probably would have Wayne into town and have dinner roll.
• 1:01:00
  Yeah, probably and worked on it but you know, I think she was
• 1:01:04
  just used to her life. I mean as far as if you're just
• 1:01:07
  happy painting because you're picking feathers, fish and doing
• 1:01:12
  whatever you're not really going to want to go into town.
• 1:01:14
  It's the simple life. Yeah.
• 1:01:16
  What do you reckon to happen to her?
• 1:01:17
  Dad at this stage? I wrecked our, he died, our
• 1:01:20
  quality of what is it? Consume it.
• 1:01:22
  And I What the Colette consumption consumption?
• 1:01:26
  Probably died of consumption. Exactly cunt.
• 1:01:28
  Something I don't even think it's consumption.
• 1:01:32
  Yeah. It just made that up.
• 1:01:34
  No, no reason. They're thing where it's like
• 1:01:36
  they died of consumption or some like plague.
• 1:01:38
  No, no. It's like alcoholism will dry
• 1:01:41
  scalp. Let's Kevin vitamin D product
• 1:01:46
  has gotten knocked out when he made a wrong gamble or
• 1:01:49
  something, or we got mad at, you probably had debts.
• 1:01:52
  He probably is just Livin. Hmm.
• 1:01:55
  But you never know, someone could have killed him for his
• 1:01:57
  veteran payment. Yeah, they have people could.
• 1:02:00
  Yeah, she and other people's checks and who really knows?
• 1:02:03
  Yeah. Or he could have killed himself.
• 1:02:06
  I'm didn't he leave to go? Check where he's payment was and
• 1:02:08
  then just never came back. Mmm.
• 1:02:10
  I thought he left and he was so pissed because the mom sent that
• 1:02:13
  letter and he was just fucked off.
• 1:02:14
  Yeah. But he came back one day and was
• 1:02:16
  like I don't know where my payment and then never came
• 1:02:19
  back. Yeah, it's pretty Rios.
• 1:02:21
  Giving milk. Understand.
• 1:02:23
  I don't know if we'll ever know. I swear to God, if I get to the
• 1:02:27
  end of this book after dying to the first couple of chapters and
• 1:02:31
  I never know where anyone is. Yep, I'm gonna be so mad.
• 1:02:34
  How many times did you cry so far?
• 1:02:38
  It's like twice for you to cry. Count twice.
• 1:02:40
  I go. Yeah, I feel like I would have
• 1:02:42
  cried more by literally skim so much because it's so hard to
• 1:02:46
  read. Yeah.
• 1:02:47
  But it's only because she is extremely illiterate, but you
• 1:02:51
  get the general idea. Idea of.
• 1:02:53
  Yeah, what's going on? Yeah, and there was a whole heap
• 1:02:56
  of one star reviews. They couldn't get into the book.
• 1:02:59
  You really gotta get to like chapter 17.
• 1:03:01
  The audiobook makes it so much easier though.
• 1:03:03
  Yeah. Because they're doing the
• 1:03:05
  voices, you're just you're engaged.
• 1:03:07
  Yeah. And it sort of sets, a lot of
• 1:03:09
  the context up to have those extra bits that otherwise are
• 1:03:13
  hard to read. Yeah.
• 1:03:15
  What are our predictions? Do you have any more notes of
• 1:03:18
  the content? So far know that if that's kind
• 1:03:20
  of where we left off? She's hella Devastated that
• 1:03:22
  Tate's just fucked off. Never to be seen again.
• 1:03:24
  Yeah doesn't trust anyone. So she's been a recluse now for
• 1:03:28
  a couple more years so then we're going to get the stories.
• 1:03:31
  Combining the two. Yeah lines.
• 1:03:33
  Yeah. So we need to know why Chase
• 1:03:35
  Andrews is related to her. I actually they did point out.
• 1:03:38
  He did have a thing with the girl in the marsh so I'm
• 1:03:41
  assuming Kate left, she had a thing with Chase.
• 1:03:43
  Hmm. And that's as far as I got, but
• 1:03:45
  he's also married. Hmm.
• 1:03:48
  Who murdered him. Well, I want to know what their
• 1:03:51
  involvement Movement is first, if it's romantic, because, how
• 1:03:55
  did that become romantic? They're practically enemies?
• 1:03:58
  Who knows they practically on the other ends of the spectrum.
• 1:04:01
  Yeah, but she also in saying that she also is very
• 1:04:04
  unsocialized. So, any person being nice to
• 1:04:06
  her, she just probably going to be like, even though she's very
• 1:04:09
  untrusting, she's probably going to be like, oh, this is love.
• 1:04:12
  Do you think? He, maybe because he's Twisted
• 1:04:15
  ego. He's run through all the other
• 1:04:17
  women in town, that he thought he could tame her or some and
• 1:04:20
  take advantage of her. Yes.
• 1:04:22
  Probably you may have forced himself on her or something
• 1:04:25
  non-consensual. Yeah, and maybe she's retaliated
• 1:04:28
  by. Well, they do say that a lot in
• 1:04:29
  the book, so she never really lost her virginity.
• 1:04:32
  Yo. Yeah, I'm assuming something bad
• 1:04:34
  happens, but I don't see her just welcoming him in and
• 1:04:37
  falling in love with him. So does she kill him?
• 1:04:40
  Does jump and kill him? I feel like jumping wouldn't
• 1:04:44
  kill him. I don't know.
• 1:04:46
  Hurry, Jack and jumping's involved.
• 1:04:48
  Mabel Mabel clocked him with a pan.
• 1:04:51
  Yes, Mabel what is it? Pop out all is a bell tower.
• 1:04:55
  What I'm assuming water tower level so you know, like really
• 1:04:58
  high up. What the fuck is he doing up
• 1:05:00
  there in the first place? Well, they did say all the kids
• 1:05:02
  go out there to make out but is that is top of the yeah, so they
• 1:05:07
  did say he fell, so something is steps.
• 1:05:11
  We adding the people up and then they could Yeah, it was like a
• 1:05:14
  gate open or something. Okay, that's where that's where
• 1:05:17
  I'm struggling because I was like, skimming everything but I
• 1:05:19
  couldn't see him it, but now it's easy to read and I'm
• 1:05:22
  interested, but he's a grown man at this stage.
• 1:05:24
  Why is he going out there for his hookups or drug deals?
• 1:05:28
  Because it could be drug dealer? Who knows what if Caillou got
• 1:05:31
  into some drug dealers? She's not that smart.
• 1:05:35
  What drugs do they have out in the marsh?
• 1:05:38
  Fucking shells. I don't know.
• 1:05:41
  Moonshine moonshine, yeah, wiegel moonshine.
• 1:05:44
  She's doesn't have the ingredients to make moonshine.
• 1:05:46
  What? I imagine she barely has the
• 1:05:48
  ingredients to make grits she could have a bully hidden meth
• 1:05:52
  lab out there. So she has a muscle flavored
• 1:05:54
  moonshine. You were what would she call it
• 1:05:59
  Marsh shines. Marsh Moon, we wash the Moon.
• 1:06:06
  Mars by Kya. Yeah, look, it's just the
• 1:06:10
  bacterial filled. Oh, yeah, sure did.
• 1:06:14
  That's where you get your high from the bacteria.
• 1:06:17
  Your brain yikes. He's doing something bad out
• 1:06:21
  there. I don't know what it is.
• 1:06:23
  Yeah, but it's bad enough that someone wanted to clean up their
• 1:06:26
  Footprints. Maybe he heard about her out
• 1:06:29
  there from take going out there because there was rumors and he
• 1:06:32
  Interested to see what was going on with the marshmallow.
• 1:06:35
  All right. We shall see?
• 1:06:38
  Do you reckon? What do you reckon is going to
• 1:06:40
  happen with Tate? You think he's come back.
• 1:06:41
  No one's coming back. No one's coming bike.
• 1:06:45
  Probably. Yeah.
• 1:06:47
  He wouldn't be such a big thing if he wasn't coming back.
• 1:06:49
  Yeah, he wouldn't be a main character who's never coming
• 1:06:52
  back. What excuse, is he gonna have?
• 1:06:55
  Sorry, I couldn't come back and rub your nipples because startup
• 1:06:58
  up, I found bigger nipples, it's got some pepperoni.
• 1:07:03
  Oh my God. Good on you tape.
• 1:07:07
  I found someone age-appropriate sorry.
• 1:07:09
  Sorry coach es was fully grown and at this point there was
• 1:07:13
  actually some booby meat as well.
• 1:07:16
  Yeah, she She finally reached full puberty yuck.
• 1:07:21
  We don't care about the excuses, though, tape.
• 1:07:23
  We're going to rip into you when you come back.
• 1:07:25
  Oh yeah. You let us down just like pong.
• 1:07:27
  You are like Papa. Look, honestly males who needs
• 1:07:34
  them except for Jumpin. Yeah.
• 1:07:37
  That's it. He's a real empathy.
• 1:07:39
  Cool. Car was almost there.
• 1:07:41
  He was almost there and that's what the so disappointing, I
• 1:07:45
  know. And then he just let the moms
• 1:07:47
  Sweep in and then punished Kaya for it.
• 1:07:49
  The fact that he have enough money to take her out to dinner
• 1:07:52
  means that he wasn't gambling or drinking either, and she had a
• 1:07:56
  meal with him in public. She almost made a friend.
• 1:08:01
  He was almost got swept away, but she got snatched.
• 1:08:07
  I just can't even steal with the dad, almost being so close.
• 1:08:12
  This Dad is the full part. One is full of disappointment.
• 1:08:16
  Never Male, dictate your life because if someone is
• 1:08:21
  disappointing, mosque disappointing, Jody's
• 1:08:23
  disappointing. My had a reason to leave though
• 1:08:26
  because Paul was fucking everything up.
• 1:08:28
  Yeah, trunk. She shouldn't have.
• 1:08:30
  She's gonna help are the same so much.
• 1:08:34
  She should have pushed him into the fucking, but then while he
• 1:08:37
  was just, she would have been forever in jail or whatever
• 1:08:40
  though, no? Because let's say he's very,
• 1:08:42
  very drunk. It would come up in the
• 1:08:44
  toxicology reports depending on technology then.
• 1:08:47
  Push him in the March. He, it's a gripped on the way
• 1:08:50
  home. Yeah.
• 1:08:51
  Then drowned. And then drown drunk.
• 1:08:53
  Who's the real enemy in all this so far because it's definitely
• 1:08:55
  not taped feel like it's just her parents because it's not
• 1:09:00
  even chasing Andrews yet. No, I reckon it to parents
• 1:09:03
  because if her dad wasn't who he was, he's a mom would have
• 1:09:07
  stayed and they would have had money.
• 1:09:10
  So mainly, it's possible because he had so many chances along the
• 1:09:13
  way. Yeah, but then also her Martian,
• 1:09:15
  the letter and its really sad. Also that everything she read.
• 1:09:19
  She's trying to find out if that animal species would leave and
• 1:09:23
  not come back. Yeah.
• 1:09:24
  Like she's trying to work out through her little textbooks.
• 1:09:28
  Yeah. Well, either way, Kya needs a
• 1:09:31
  lot of therapy but she's never going to get any therapy.
• 1:09:35
  We need therapy on reading this fucking book.
• 1:09:38
  It's kind of a bit struggle porn in a way.
• 1:09:41
  Hmm, But if you like getting involved in a story and you like
• 1:09:45
  it is struggle to make yourself feel good about it.
• 1:09:47
  Own life. This is a good book because it's
• 1:09:49
  fully encompassing. Yeah, you're very much in the
• 1:09:52
  struggle. You can always taste the Grits.
• 1:09:53
  Yeah, so I mean if that's what you like yeah it should be fine.
• 1:09:59
  You just got to get past some chapters.
• 1:10:00
  Yeah, their first decent, mishel chapters.
• 1:10:02
  And then you get off, you get the tone of it and then it
• 1:10:05
  flows. Yeah.
• 1:10:06
  You got to get to when she learns to read and then I like a
• 1:10:09
  good murder mystery though. So I'm Ivan.
• 1:10:12
  Get yeah. By the end of this, I was like
• 1:10:14
  year I could get into it. I just wish we got there.
• 1:10:17
  Faster, we need to know more about Chase Andrews.
• 1:10:19
  We need to know more. I'm assuming that's where we're
• 1:10:22
  leading off. In the next part, I feel like
• 1:10:25
  she's going to get blamed because of all the gossip but
• 1:10:28
  then she's going to be innocent. Maybe.
• 1:10:30
  Yeah. And maybe it'll go into this
• 1:10:32
  whole thing where they try and burn her at the stake like a
• 1:10:34
  witch and oh, yeah, the townspeople are going to what I
• 1:10:37
  have. It would only make sense to
• 1:10:39
  blame her though. She's the only person in the
• 1:10:41
  market. Exactly 47.
• 1:10:43
  And if anyone was to see any think it would probably be her.
• 1:10:46
  Yep. So It makes sense.
• 1:10:47
  She's just trying to exist. Honestly, she's checked out.
• 1:10:51
  I mean, he's just trying to get to her next meal.
• 1:10:53
  Literally, I think the criticism of this book is that it's always
• 1:10:58
  the white protagonist. Yeah.
• 1:11:01
  And it's never not, you know what I mean?
• 1:11:04
  Like it's always the White story is more important.
• 1:11:06
  Yeah. And I kind of I would love to
• 1:11:09
  hear more about jumping and jumping and Mabel.
• 1:11:11
  I know we don't know. We don't get much about them.
• 1:11:14
  Hopefully that changes. I don't know.
• 1:11:16
  I want to know more about What they're dealing with.
• 1:11:18
  Yeah. Anything.
• 1:11:19
  I'll so we're just excited to keep going.
• 1:11:21
  We're excited to keep going. It's picking up, it's fine.
• 1:11:25
  So let's just wrap up. We've already done our
• 1:11:28
  predictions and then next time we check in will be seeing if
• 1:11:32
  any of those predictions stick. So you've tied ever found
• 1:11:35
  someone with big nipples and Chase Andrews will look so much
• 1:11:41
  pussy. Exactly.
• 1:11:44
  These are the questions that everyone wants answered for
• 1:11:46
  sure. Sure.
• 1:11:47
  I'm sure there's bigger questions and because these are
• 1:11:50
  the things we want to know that this fucking Simple Minds.
• 1:11:53
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