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Do Babies Choose Their Parents? A Spirit Baby Expert Explains | Claudia Rosenhouse Raiken · Willow Healing Matters Podcast

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SPEAKER_01: Hi everyone,
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SPEAKER_01: it's Catherine Crestani with another episode of Willow Healing Matters
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SPEAKER_01: and today I am joined by Claudia Rosenhaus-Rakon.
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SPEAKER_01: So she is a senior teacher at the School of Images where she runs the Dream Birth Program.
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SPEAKER_01: In that capacity,
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SPEAKER_01: Claudia has trained professionals worldwide and works with countless women
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SPEAKER_01: and couples from all continents.
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SPEAKER_01: She is a world expert at facilitating communication between their parents and
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SPEAKER_01: the baby in the womb.
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SPEAKER_01: Or with the souls planning to come,
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SPEAKER_01: still not conceived and even those who are miscarried or aborted.
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SPEAKER_01: It is these conversations that lead to the writing of messages from the womb.
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SPEAKER_01: Claudia is a childbirth educator,
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SPEAKER_01: a birth doula,
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SPEAKER_01: an Alexander technique teacher and a biodynamic craniosacral practitioner.
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SPEAKER_01: She holds a master's from NYU in kinesthesiology and dance and has assisted in over 300 births.
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SPEAKER_01: And a big welcome to the show, Claudia.
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SPEAKER_01: Claudia.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: My background is a speech language pathologist.
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SPEAKER_01: So communication to babies in the womb is always fascinated with me
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SPEAKER_01: because I know they can hear from very, very early on.
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SPEAKER_01: So I used to read to my baby,
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SPEAKER_01: you know, every night when I was pregnant and those beautiful conversations.
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SPEAKER_01: But for you, how did you even know you could communicate with babies in the womb?
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: First of all, all right.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Since I wrote the book and since I've gotten a broader view of what happens,
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SPEAKER_02: okay, the baby can hear you, but until close to birth, it's the soul.
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SPEAKER_02: So the soul doesn't join the fetus, the baby, for 98% of us until moments before birth.
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SPEAKER_01: When we do talk to the baby,
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SPEAKER_01: they can hear everything,
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SPEAKER_02: everything,
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SPEAKER_02: everything because they're in the non-physical side where we live,
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SPEAKER_02: where part of us lives.
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SPEAKER_02: And they choose the parent.
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SPEAKER_02: They're excited.
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SPEAKER_02: They know your thoughts.
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SPEAKER_02: They know your outcomes.
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SPEAKER_02: Your wishes, your fears, they know your bad points.
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SPEAKER_02: But so I always knew it was the soul we were talking to.
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SPEAKER_02: That I knew.
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SPEAKER_02: But I thought the soul was inside earlier.
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SPEAKER_02: And sometimes it is.
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SPEAKER_02: When someone wants memories of being in the womb, they come in earlier.
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SPEAKER_02: But The soul can't really come in until the fetus is formed.
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SPEAKER_02: I forget how many weeks that is, but it's not in the early stages.
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SPEAKER_02: But the baby can hear everything you say.
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SPEAKER_01: I feel.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: So feel, see, hear you.
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SPEAKER_01: We, unless you're
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SPEAKER_02: Very, very intuitive.
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SPEAKER_02: You won't necessarily hear the baby back,
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SPEAKER_02: which I used to think, oh yeah, sure you hear the baby.
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SPEAKER_02: But I've now, I want to actually rewrite parts of my book.
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SPEAKER_02: So there are very gifted mediums who actually can talk to the soul and
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SPEAKER_02: The soul will say, this is what I want, blah, blah, blah.
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SPEAKER_02: But now I help parents connect, but they can say whatever they want to the soul.
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SPEAKER_02: At any point, all the time, it's a powerful grown-up soul.
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SPEAKER_02: So you don't need to baby talk it.
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SPEAKER_02: Once the soul comes in and is born, then they are a baby.
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SPEAKER_02: And I'm sure technically you can still be talking to the soul if you want, but...
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SPEAKER_02: Before they're born, you are talking to a full-blown soul.
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SPEAKER_02: So you can tell them anything.
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SPEAKER_02: So now that's more the communication.
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SPEAKER_02: When, in the olden days,
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SPEAKER_02: I would have the parents,
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SPEAKER_02: through a visualization,
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SPEAKER_02: ask the baby if there was anything they wanted to put into the garden.
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SPEAKER_02: The parents had created a garden.
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SPEAKER_02: And The inner mind, the subconscious wants to please.
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SPEAKER_02: So I think some of those conversations were really from the inner mind just trying
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SPEAKER_02: to go, yeah, yeah, sure, pink flowers.
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SPEAKER_02: It wasn't quite...
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SPEAKER_02: The soul of the baby,
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SPEAKER_02: the poor soul was like, well, I'm not saying that, but okay, this is fine.
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SPEAKER_02: You're communicating.
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SPEAKER_02: That's okay.
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SPEAKER_02: I still like this.
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SPEAKER_02: Do you know what I mean?
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SPEAKER_02: So how did I know that?
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_02: I really don't know how I know that.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, before I got into baby world, I was a body worker.
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SPEAKER_02: Actually, Alexander Technique first.
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SPEAKER_02: And I would see a woman who was a psychic who...
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SPEAKER_02: And I'm like...
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SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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SPEAKER_02: No, I adopted.
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SPEAKER_02: No, no, why me?
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SPEAKER_02: Why me?
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SPEAKER_02: No, no, no.
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SPEAKER_02: I fought.
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SPEAKER_02: And they said, because you will have something to offer.
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SPEAKER_02: And then I met Catherine Shainberg and learned dream birth,
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SPEAKER_02: but I took it to talking to the soul.
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SPEAKER_02: Don't ask.
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SPEAKER_02: I do not know.
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SPEAKER_02: But I did know that we're an extension of a soul being, right?
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SPEAKER_02: Our full soul isn't here, but we're fragmenting.
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SPEAKER_02: And so I think my work has grown now to talking to the understanding more
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SPEAKER_02: the bigger picture and connecting them that way.
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SPEAKER_02: But it has, I've gotten away from, so what does the baby want?
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SPEAKER_02: Because it's make-believe at that point.
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SPEAKER_02: Not that the baby can't, but it's make-believe how we are hearing it.
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SPEAKER_02: Because most Young moms are not skilled mediums, and I'm not a skilled medium at all.
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SPEAKER_02: But when needed,
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SPEAKER_02: I have communicated with the baby because,
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SPEAKER_02: I'll take one example, and at this, well, a woman was doing IVF.
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SPEAKER_02: She was young, but she was nervous.
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SPEAKER_02: She had had a miscarriage.
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SPEAKER_02: She didn't want to have one anymore.
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SPEAKER_02: And so she did work with me, basically getting happier.
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SPEAKER_02: Mainly, I helped the moms get happier and more positive about life, right, really.
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SPEAKER_02: And understanding that,
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SPEAKER_02: for want of a better word right now,
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SPEAKER_02: we all have a guide or a guardian angel,
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SPEAKER_02: every single one of us, from, in fact, that's who comes in.
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SPEAKER_02: The The soul,
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SPEAKER_02: the baby will,
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SPEAKER_02: part of the soul comes in and the guide, the guidance system comes in.
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SPEAKER_02: So from day one,
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SPEAKER_02: we are being,
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SPEAKER_02: we have our best friend,
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SPEAKER_02: our best guide, who has been with us, as I'm understanding, every single lifetime.
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SPEAKER_02: So they really, really, really, really know you and what you're coming in to do.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: I think I'm more a young mother.
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SPEAKER_02: Go ahead.
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SPEAKER_02: Sometimes not so young.
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SPEAKER_01: Get the bigger picture.
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SPEAKER_01: I was going to say, there's so much that was coming through when you were talking.
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SPEAKER_01: And if it's okay, I'm going to feed it back.
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SPEAKER_01: They're like,
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SPEAKER_01: first of all,
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SPEAKER_01: they're saying, don't be afraid to write the second edition of your book.
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SPEAKER_01: It's okay.
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SPEAKER_02: That's what they wanted to say.
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SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
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SPEAKER_02: No, I am planning.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm waiting till the timing.
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SPEAKER_02: I know it's in my bones till I really, really know what I'm talking about.
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SPEAKER_01: The second part that you brought up was when you connect with these souls, they're always older.
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SPEAKER_01: And it's really interesting because I support some of my clients with learning how
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SPEAKER_01: to connect with their child's higher self,
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SPEAKER_01: especially when they're going through a lot of things.
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SPEAKER_01: And all of them will say that their children are older.
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SPEAKER_01: And even I was talking to like my cousin passed away when I was younger and
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SPEAKER_01: And he came through and I was sharing a message with my auntie and she's like,
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SPEAKER_01: but he was only 11.
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SPEAKER_01: I said, but his soul's not 11.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, like.
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SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Because she's like, oh,
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SPEAKER_01: because she just found it really hard because we have this memory of who they were
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SPEAKER_01: at that point that they left or,
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SPEAKER_01: you know, and I've been through a miscarriage myself.
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SPEAKER_01: So I understand because it's like he felt that soul in you for that moment and
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SPEAKER_01: then it left again.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, so there's those elements of it too.
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SPEAKER_01: But what was coming through when you were sharing just at the end,
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SPEAKER_01: Claudia,
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SPEAKER_01: was that you're here to support mum to trust themselves and rely
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SPEAKER_01: on their mother's intuition so that they can advocate more for their baby and
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SPEAKER_01: the soul coming in.
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SPEAKER_01: And by giving them that confidence, they become better mums in themselves.
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SPEAKER_01: And then it actually is giving the babies what they need.
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SPEAKER_02: That's interesting.
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SPEAKER_02: It, frankly...
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SPEAKER_02: We can all talk soul to soul.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, we can talk to, we talk to each other without even meaning to sometimes.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, sometimes it's negative.
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SPEAKER_02: If you are angry and judgmental, it's going into the other person, right?
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SPEAKER_02: So unless they're well,
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SPEAKER_02: unless they have worked a lot on themselves to Feel their inner core
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SPEAKER_02: and their confidence and their greater soul.
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SPEAKER_02: So whatever comes in that is a put down, they don't even feel it.
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SPEAKER_02: But I, like you, I do advocate talking to anybody's higher self.
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SPEAKER_02: Do you know what I mean?
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SPEAKER_02: Before an actual talk.
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SPEAKER_02: And that it is all about Making the mother more confident and joyful
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SPEAKER_02: and understanding there's a bigger picture for their kids, for themselves.
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SPEAKER_02: Good.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, thank you.
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SPEAKER_02: Whoever is your guide.
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SPEAKER_01: They're like, it's your guides too.
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SPEAKER_01: They will have a party.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, they are.
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SPEAKER_02: They're all gabbing.
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SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
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SPEAKER_01: That's how I explain it to people.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm like,
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SPEAKER_01: my guides are there and then your guides come over with my guides
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SPEAKER_01: and they have this big party and then I just get the information.
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SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
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SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm working now with somebody who channels.
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SPEAKER_02: She teaches classes and the teachers come through.
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SPEAKER_02: That's who she channels.
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SPEAKER_02: But she's also a medium.
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SPEAKER_02: So when I first heard her while I was listening to another show, I went, oh my God, who is this?
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SPEAKER_02: Who is this?
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SPEAKER_02: Not her, but who was speaking through her.
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SPEAKER_02: So I looked her up and I had a session.
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SPEAKER_02: And then I just...
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SPEAKER_02: And I started to go to classes,
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SPEAKER_02: but then I wanted to connect with my mother and father and any other relative
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SPEAKER_02: that wanted to talk to me.
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SPEAKER_02: Now, I'm 78, so my parents left a bit ago.
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SPEAKER_02: And both my parents came through and,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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SPEAKER_02: my mother said her piece and,
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SPEAKER_02: you know, she felt like she was born at the wrong time.
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SPEAKER_02: She would have done much better had she been born at our time where she could do her own thing.
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SPEAKER_02: And we talked.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, I understood she hadn't been really very happy.
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SPEAKER_02: That's okay.
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SPEAKER_02: But when my father came through,
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SPEAKER_02: He said,
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SPEAKER_02: the reason you're losing your hearing is because you were very impressed
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SPEAKER_02: with my loss late in life.
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SPEAKER_02: And then he said, I'd like to help you get it back, your hearing.
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SPEAKER_02: I'd like to, you know, get your full hearing back.
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SPEAKER_02: And the teachers,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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SPEAKER_02: who are sort of running the session and my guy,
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SPEAKER_02: they go, yes, yes, yes, you can try now, you can try now.
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SPEAKER_02: And whatever, I don't know what he was doing.
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SPEAKER_02: And they would say, perfect, do it stronger, do it stronger.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, so they sort of coached him for a second.
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SPEAKER_02: And I have every other day,
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SPEAKER_02: very faithfully until recently now,
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SPEAKER_02: I sometimes skip a day,
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SPEAKER_02: I sit in a chair and Call my father and my guide and the teachers and go,
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SPEAKER_02: let's work on my hearing.
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SPEAKER_02: That's all I have to do.
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SPEAKER_02: And then they do whatever.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, I close my eyes.
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SPEAKER_02: Sometimes I don't close my eyes.
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SPEAKER_02: And I thank them for working on my hearing.
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SPEAKER_02: But my hearing came back a lot.
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SPEAKER_02: I stopped wearing my hearing aids.
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SPEAKER_02: But it's very nice to know that my father's around me.
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SPEAKER_02: Do you know what I mean?
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SPEAKER_02: This is interesting.
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SPEAKER_02: I do hear my guide in Spanish because that is the language I was, my first language.
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SPEAKER_02: And so when they told me, are you starting to hear anything in Spanish?
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SPEAKER_02: I go, no, no, not yet.
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SPEAKER_02: They go, well, you will because it's starting to sort of come through.
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SPEAKER_02: And I said, but why Spanish?
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SPEAKER_02: They go, because now I speak English better.
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SPEAKER_02: They've talked among themselves.
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SPEAKER_02: They go, give us a moment.
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SPEAKER_01: They go, no, no,
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SPEAKER_02: no, no, no, no.
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SPEAKER_02: You're set to Spanish.
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SPEAKER_02: That's how you'll hear your guide when you hear them.
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SPEAKER_02: Other than that, you know, you hear just intuitively or otherwise.
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SPEAKER_02: But so, and then I did, but the first time I really heard, they said, They suggest meditate.
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SPEAKER_02: I only meditate nine minutes.
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SPEAKER_02: They gave me nine minutes.
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SPEAKER_02: Other people, they give 12.
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SPEAKER_02: They gave me nine.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, well, nine it will be.
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SPEAKER_02: And then to spend three minutes receiving, whether it's images, whether it's words, anything.
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SPEAKER_02: And when the guide finally came through, it was so, so loving.
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SPEAKER_02: I They spoke to me as if I was a little girl.
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SPEAKER_01: You're pure.
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SPEAKER_01: You're so good.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, I was like, oh, we're here.
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SPEAKER_02: We're here.
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SPEAKER_02: We're here.
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SPEAKER_02: We love you.
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SPEAKER_02: We're always here.
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SPEAKER_02: We love you.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, that kind of talk, but in Spanish.
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SPEAKER_02: And because I guess it was my first language and what I spoke as a little girl,
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SPEAKER_02: it Felt very special.
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SPEAKER_02: It feels very special.
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SPEAKER_02: The minute I'm nervous walking in the streets of New York, I hear the thought, we're here.
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SPEAKER_02: We're right here with you.
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SPEAKER_02: So anyway, I imagine that will grow and grow.
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SPEAKER_02: But for you, it was there from very young.
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SPEAKER_02: Good point.
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SPEAKER_01: So I guess a bit of my journey was I was very connected when I came in and I had a birth trauma.
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SPEAKER_01: So I was a birth trauma.
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SPEAKER_01: And then my...
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SPEAKER_01: And then I always had the imaginary friend.
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SPEAKER_01: I was very much, you know, so I was always talking to spirits and things like that.
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SPEAKER_01: And then about five or six, when I started school, I turned it all off.
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SPEAKER_01: I know the exact moment.
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SPEAKER_02: I did it because you have protection.
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SPEAKER_02: I think I had an imaginary, I mean, yeah, I think I had one too, yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and it wasn't,
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SPEAKER_01: and I was always trusting my gut instincts and I always had these intuitive moments
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SPEAKER_01: of clarity where I couldn't explain things.
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SPEAKER_01: But it wasn't until...
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SPEAKER_01: About 2020 that I started to step back into connecting back spiritually and
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SPEAKER_01: then I had a really rapid awakening.
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SPEAKER_01: It was just like I was so ready and everything just went,
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SPEAKER_01: you know,
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SPEAKER_01: I was seeing my mentor every two weeks and we were just doing the next thing,
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SPEAKER_01: doing the next thing, doing the next thing.
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SPEAKER_01: But my first session with her,
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SPEAKER_01: I connected with my higher self and my guides and one
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SPEAKER_01: of them was my great grandmother and I always knew she was my guide and it was just
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SPEAKER_01: that beautiful reconnection and coming back.
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SPEAKER_01: It was just almost like this deep knowing finally being acknowledged as well.
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SPEAKER_01: I was like, I knew you were always around me.
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SPEAKER_01: I knew it, I knew it, I knew it.
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SPEAKER_01: And then from there,
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SPEAKER_01: everything just kind of came on really quickly to the point of what I'm doing,
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SPEAKER_01: what I'm doing now.
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SPEAKER_01: But the question I have that keeps me in my head is so for those clients
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SPEAKER_01: that you work with who have gone through miscarriage or gone through abortion and
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SPEAKER_01: that sort of thing, how do the souls come back in and pop up?
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: First of all, okay, most miscarriages, most, and happen early on, right?
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SPEAKER_02: When the soul hasn't actually come in.
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SPEAKER_02: So the soul's there.
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SPEAKER_02: And from the questions I ask the teachers,
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SPEAKER_02: the growth of the fetus is a lot by the mother's thoughts and moods.
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SPEAKER_02: And maybe if she's very, very nervous, if she...
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SPEAKER_02: Thinks something awful is going to happen if she is terrified
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SPEAKER_02: that there'll be something wrong with the baby.
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SPEAKER_01: That doesn't help because It's pulling that energy in, essentially.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and that's, I mean, your subconscious is, oh, okay, that's what you want.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, it doesn't judge.
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SPEAKER_02: It's just, oh, okay, okay, trouble, trouble, we'll give you trouble.
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SPEAKER_02: So I do know that.
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SPEAKER_02: So I do try to gently, without scaring a person, steer them to better feeling thoughts.
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SPEAKER_02: Better feeling emotions, do you know what I mean?
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SPEAKER_02: So with a miscarriage,
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SPEAKER_02: which is easier, there's less guilt with a miscarriage, although there's guilt.
18:40
SPEAKER_02: We all have guilt about almost everything.
18:42
SPEAKER_02: So it's also kind of like, just forgive yourself for feeling bad.
18:49
SPEAKER_02: You know, we have to be nicer to ourselves.
18:53
SPEAKER_02: But essentially, You talk to the soul.
19:00
SPEAKER_02: Many times,
19:02
SPEAKER_02: in a miscarriage,
19:03
SPEAKER_02: not always at all, there were reasons why it wasn't the best timing.
19:09
SPEAKER_02: So that's a little bit why the person was,
19:11
SPEAKER_02: or like, no, how am I going to deal with three of them?
19:16
SPEAKER_02: That's too close.
19:18
SPEAKER_02: Whatever.
19:19
SPEAKER_02: Or I'm just being promoted or I really want to leave this guy,
19:24
SPEAKER_02: you know, anything.
19:25
SPEAKER_02: So, but almost very, very often, almost always, the same soul will come back to you.
19:31
SPEAKER_02: So if, you know, unless you decide, I don't want any kids, do you know what I mean?
19:38
SPEAKER_02: So then the soul with the incredible help they have will go, okay, Annie, who else do you want?
19:45
SPEAKER_02: You know, let's go again.
19:48
SPEAKER_02: And there's really probably never just,
19:51
SPEAKER_02: there's choice one, choice two, choice three, choice four, you know, for the soul.
19:57
SPEAKER_02: You talk to the soul.
19:58
SPEAKER_02: And the same with an abortion.
20:00
SPEAKER_02: They already know why you had an abortion.
20:03
SPEAKER_02: They weren't in yet.
20:05
SPEAKER_02: They're just next to you, loving you.
20:08
SPEAKER_02: Do you know what I mean?
20:09
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
20:12
SPEAKER_02: Part of the pain is we think you have lost somebody that was going to come in,
20:17
SPEAKER_02: you know, especially with a miscarriage.
20:20
SPEAKER_02: You lose that present possibility, but the possibility is still there, actually.
20:26
SPEAKER_02: And almost always, the soul, when you get pregnant again, it's the same soul.
20:31
SPEAKER_02: So with an abortion, it's a little bit more convincing the mother, the soul is still there.
20:40
SPEAKER_02: It knows you were unhappy.
20:42
SPEAKER_02: It knows.
20:42
SPEAKER_02: But tell it everything you wish.
20:45
SPEAKER_02: Tell it.
20:47
SPEAKER_02: So they talk,
20:48
SPEAKER_02: and we do have an exercise in imagery where you help take the soul back and
20:53
SPEAKER_02: the angels and the Divine Mother take them in and take care of them
20:58
SPEAKER_02: until they can come back.
20:59
SPEAKER_02: But that's what's happening anyway, whether we do it in imagery or not.
21:04
SPEAKER_02: They're already...
21:07
SPEAKER_02: Their support system is right there.
21:09
SPEAKER_02: Do you know what I mean?
21:10
SPEAKER_02: Their embrace, their kiss, their, okay, don't worry.
21:14
SPEAKER_02: She has to grow up a little bit.
21:15
SPEAKER_02: We'll try again.
21:16
SPEAKER_02: Do you know what I mean?
21:18
SPEAKER_02: I mean, that's what I'm imagining.
21:20
SPEAKER_02: But they already know.
21:22
SPEAKER_01: They know because they're not
21:24
SPEAKER_02: little babies.
21:26
SPEAKER_01: No.
21:27
SPEAKER_01: And this incarnation plan that they come in with as well.
21:31
SPEAKER_01: And like you said, it's choice.
21:33
SPEAKER_01: There's so much choice.
21:34
SPEAKER_01: And I actually say to my son, Every other night, thank you for choosing me to be your mom.
21:41
SPEAKER_01: Absolutely, absolutely, absolutely.
21:44
SPEAKER_01: It's their choice too.
21:45
SPEAKER_01: And it was really interesting.
21:47
SPEAKER_01: I had a client very early on in my kind of spiritual journey.
21:52
SPEAKER_01: And now I'm like, oh my goodness, I would do so much more.
21:56
SPEAKER_01: But it was just perfect for that moment.
21:57
SPEAKER_01: But she was talking about she was finding it hard to fall pregnant.
22:01
SPEAKER_01: And they just kept showing me this image of her with these souls around her.
22:05
SPEAKER_01: I said, you're meant to have children in your life.
22:08
SPEAKER_01: I just don't know how they're going to get to you yet.
22:10
SPEAKER_01: It's like there's a wall separating you from them.
22:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, right.
22:14
SPEAKER_02: No, I do see things.
22:16
SPEAKER_02: I do get quick images of what I'm seeing.
22:20
SPEAKER_01: So I don't know what happened with her because she didn't live in.
22:23
SPEAKER_01: She was just visiting kind of thing.
22:25
SPEAKER_01: But I was like, well...
22:27
SPEAKER_01: You know, to me that shows that there's something just stopping you from connecting them.
22:30
SPEAKER_01: Maybe it is you're meant to adopt children or maybe it is you're meant to,
22:34
SPEAKER_01: they're not ready yet or who knows, right?
22:38
SPEAKER_01: Like we don't know until we get to the other side of it.
22:41
SPEAKER_01: But it's very interesting because we have contracts in our soul.
22:45
SPEAKER_01: They have contracts in their soul.
22:47
SPEAKER_01: And then there has to be this meeting point.
22:50
SPEAKER_01: And I do love that you brought up that just because you were boarded or
22:54
SPEAKER_01: because you had the miscarriage doesn't mean That baby's not going to come to you
22:58
SPEAKER_01: in some way or another.
23:00
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
23:01
SPEAKER_02: And at every point we have a choice.
23:04
SPEAKER_02: Do you know what I mean?
23:05
SPEAKER_02: It's like, The soul plan, and it's mutual.
23:09
SPEAKER_02: It's like, okay, well, you know, I want to come to you.
23:13
SPEAKER_02: I don't know when we talk on the other side, but,
23:18
SPEAKER_02: you know,
23:20
SPEAKER_02: for a while,
23:21
SPEAKER_02: I had a lot of sessions where I asked the teachers a lot about conception
23:27
SPEAKER_02: and miscarriages and abortions,
23:31
SPEAKER_02: and now I really just let them heal me, you know, make me Yeah.
23:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
23:36
SPEAKER_02: Well, you...
24:05
SPEAKER_01: You want to walk the talk, right?
24:08
SPEAKER_01: You don't want to just be happy, but I'm miserable in my own life.
24:13
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
24:14
SPEAKER_02: You can't.
24:15
SPEAKER_02: You can't.
24:15
SPEAKER_02: You can't.
24:16
SPEAKER_02: And you have to know it helps to have been unhappy and learned how to,
24:22
SPEAKER_02: moment by moment, choose happy.
24:25
SPEAKER_02: Do you know what I mean?
24:26
SPEAKER_02: It's actually great help to have had problems.
24:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
24:31
SPEAKER_01: Well, because I find the problems I had,
24:33
SPEAKER_01: sometimes it's funny too,
24:35
SPEAKER_01: because then we measure our problems and our trauma, right?
24:38
SPEAKER_01: We go, oh, well, my trauma was a little T trauma.
24:41
SPEAKER_01: They had a big T trauma.
24:43
SPEAKER_01: Therefore, my story cannot be valid.
24:45
SPEAKER_01: But the point is the people that you attract into your life will have gone
24:50
SPEAKER_01: through similar trauma to you.
24:52
SPEAKER_01: And especially when we're guiding people,
24:54
SPEAKER_01: whether from the doula perspective or when you're working with mums or whatever,
24:58
SPEAKER_01: That looks like, or for my flick, like as an intuitive guide, it doesn't matter.
25:02
SPEAKER_01: Those people that come into your life need the knowledge and the stories and
25:06
SPEAKER_01: the wisdom that you've been through.
25:08
SPEAKER_01: Same with the little souls coming to the world.
25:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
25:12
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I intuited after a while that it was,
25:16
SPEAKER_02: sometimes it was really the souls guiding their mothers to hire me.
25:24
SPEAKER_02: Because my emphasis was so much on their choosing you.
25:29
SPEAKER_02: It's a sole choice.
25:32
SPEAKER_02: You know, it's bigger than I'm pregnant with a little baby.
25:39
SPEAKER_02: But to me, it's also, you have help.
25:44
SPEAKER_02: You have all these guides.
25:45
SPEAKER_02: You have help.
25:47
SPEAKER_02: So does the baby relax.
25:49
SPEAKER_02: Rely on that a little more.
25:51
SPEAKER_02: It's not just up to you.
25:53
SPEAKER_02: Don't worry.
25:54
SPEAKER_02: Baby already has a great soul, has a soul plan, is being guided.
25:59
SPEAKER_02: You're just here to love and appreciate, you know, to help out.
26:05
SPEAKER_02: So, because, you know, moms get so, so stressed.
26:10
SPEAKER_01: Guilt.
26:11
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
26:13
SPEAKER_02: Mom guilt.
26:14
SPEAKER_01: You know,
26:14
SPEAKER_01: it's interesting too because whenever I connect in with kids or I help
26:19
SPEAKER_01: the parents connect in with the kids, the messages are always so simple.
26:23
SPEAKER_01: Like it might just be like, just tell them that you hear them and you love them.
26:27
SPEAKER_01: Or just they want to cuddle every night and a kiss before they go to bed.
26:31
SPEAKER_01: Or they...
26:32
SPEAKER_01: It's so simple.
26:35
SPEAKER_01: It doesn't...
26:36
SPEAKER_01: We make it like we have to,
26:38
SPEAKER_01: you know, make it really complicated and then what are they missing out on?
26:42
SPEAKER_01: And we go through all this guilt.
26:44
SPEAKER_02: Actually, I have a story.
26:46
SPEAKER_02: I had a mom that she first hired me as a doula with her son,
26:50
SPEAKER_02: her eldest,
26:51
SPEAKER_02: and she was a lawyer,
26:54
SPEAKER_02: not very spiritual at all,
26:56
SPEAKER_02: but really loved the fact that the baby turned at the last moment.
27:01
SPEAKER_02: She had a vaginal birth.
27:03
SPEAKER_02: I think she thought the visualization was a little crazy, blah, blah, blah.
27:07
SPEAKER_02: Then she got pregnant.
27:09
SPEAKER_02: Again, when her She hired me right away, and she miscarried.
27:14
SPEAKER_02: She miscarried.
27:21
SPEAKER_02: And she knew something was wrong, you know, that, okay.
27:24
SPEAKER_02: But, and then she started to, because I would do body work, so they're very relaxed.
27:31
SPEAKER_02: And she said, she's here.
27:32
SPEAKER_02: I can hear, I can feel her, Claudia.
27:34
SPEAKER_02: She's here.
27:36
SPEAKER_02: She's all around me.
27:37
SPEAKER_02: So, okay.
27:38
SPEAKER_02: So she knew it was a girl and she would spend a lot
27:43
SPEAKER_02: of time imagining having her daughter,
27:46
SPEAKER_02: When she was two or three, and she would imagine braiding the girl's hair.
27:54
SPEAKER_02: And all of a sudden,
27:56
SPEAKER_02: her would be picked up from school,
27:59
SPEAKER_02: from daycare by her parents because she was a big lawyer
28:04
SPEAKER_02: and she didn't come home too late.
28:08
SPEAKER_02: Basically, the little boy wanted to grow his hair long.
28:15
SPEAKER_02: And to wear dresses,
28:16
SPEAKER_02: and they were Russian,
28:19
SPEAKER_02: and The grandparents were very freaked out, and so was the father.
28:23
SPEAKER_02: And I said, I said, what do you think is going on?
28:26
SPEAKER_02: And she said, I don't know.
28:28
SPEAKER_02: I think it's just, you know, who he is.
28:31
SPEAKER_02: That's who he wants to be.
28:33
SPEAKER_02: And then when she told me this right at the end of the session,
28:37
SPEAKER_02: and she left, I went, wait, he's, I think he wanted his hair braided.
28:43
SPEAKER_02: And I went, oh, my God, it's just the vision, the imaginal vision.
28:50
SPEAKER_02: She's been doing with her not yet conceived daughter.
28:54
SPEAKER_02: And so the next session, I said, let's talk to his higher self, ask him, what's the deal?
29:03
SPEAKER_02: And he said, well, girls are loved more.
29:08
SPEAKER_02: And so that's all she had to, and so then she spoke to him in real life.
29:13
SPEAKER_02: No, you know,
29:14
SPEAKER_02: and as soon as she actually reassured him that she adored the fact that he was
29:22
SPEAKER_02: a boy, and he stopped wanting to wear dresses.
29:25
SPEAKER_02: Isn't that funny?
29:27
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but that's what happens with children too,
29:30
SPEAKER_01: and probably because he was sensing mom's energy about, you know, Exactly.
29:35
SPEAKER_01: Kids are little emotional radars.
29:37
SPEAKER_01: You cannot hide anything from them.
29:39
SPEAKER_01: You cannot.
29:40
SPEAKER_01: That's amazing.
29:41
SPEAKER_01: But it is, it's simple.
29:42
SPEAKER_01: We overcomplicate it and we think it's like this bigger thing than it needs to be.
29:48
SPEAKER_01: And I feel if there's any How old is your son?
29:50
SPEAKER_01: He's nine and a half.
29:51
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
29:51
SPEAKER_01: Your only one or there's more?
30:19
SPEAKER_02: I'm just one and done.
30:21
SPEAKER_02: I'm just a one
30:21
SPEAKER_01: and done.
30:24
SPEAKER_01: So, yeah, exactly.
30:27
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
30:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we have a right to be no, no, no.
30:33
SPEAKER_02: Right now, no.
30:36
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's okay.
30:38
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, it's okay.
30:39
SPEAKER_01: I'm going to open a spirit school for children and I'll have lots of little kids running around.
30:43
SPEAKER_01: I'll be fine.
30:45
SPEAKER_01: That'll be fine.
30:46
SPEAKER_01: And then I can give them back at the end of the day.
30:49
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
30:50
SPEAKER_02: Actually, about simplicity, this is actually with the same mom and same child.
30:57
SPEAKER_02: He stopped wanting to go back home after his grandmother, and she was very upset.
31:05
SPEAKER_02: And so I said, well, let's ask him, you know, higher self.
31:09
SPEAKER_02: And She said, you don't let me help you make coffee.
31:15
SPEAKER_02: I want to be able to help and be doing things in the morning with you.
31:20
SPEAKER_02: And I said, well, what happens in the morning?
31:23
SPEAKER_02: She says, well, this was in the BlackBerry times.
31:27
SPEAKER_02: She says, well, you know, my bosses, I'm constantly being communicated with, so I'm rushed.
31:33
SPEAKER_02: I'm always looking at my phone and I don't want them helping me with a coffee.
31:37
SPEAKER_02: I'll never get made, you know, it's, Boom, boom, boom, let's get going.
31:41
SPEAKER_02: And so once she heard that, she gave herself an extra half hour.
31:46
SPEAKER_02: She put her phone away, and he helped her make the coffee, and they did whatever else they did.
31:54
SPEAKER_02: That's all it took.
31:55
SPEAKER_02: That very day, he wanted to come home.
32:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
32:03
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
32:03
SPEAKER_01: And as we start to finish our time together,
32:06
SPEAKER_01: Claudia,
32:07
SPEAKER_01: I asked the guests that come on the show,
32:10
SPEAKER_01: if you could heal or change something in the world, what would it be?
32:14
SPEAKER_02: Wow.
32:15
SPEAKER_02: I would want everyone to know they're not just a body.
32:20
SPEAKER_02: They're so part of the soul is connected, but more that they have help.
32:25
SPEAKER_02: You have so many people that love you.
32:28
SPEAKER_02: On the other side, not only your guide, your great-grandmother, you have so much help.
32:35
SPEAKER_02: You are loved beyond love.
32:38
SPEAKER_02: Do you know what I mean?
32:38
SPEAKER_02: And so, I mean, so much else.
32:41
SPEAKER_02: But if people really felt that, they would feel differently about life.
32:47
SPEAKER_01: Because they'll remember they're not alone, right?
32:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
32:50
SPEAKER_02: They're never alone, and you can talk soul to soul to anybody.
32:54
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
32:56
SPEAKER_01: Beautiful.
32:57
SPEAKER_01: And if people want to come in and work with you,
32:59
SPEAKER_01: Claudia, or learn from you, where's the best place they can go?
33:03
SPEAKER_01: Or get your book.
33:05
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I do teach and give sessions.
33:08
SPEAKER_02: It won't be so easy if you're in Australia because of the time difference, but it can work.
33:14
SPEAKER_02: So actually, the easiest email is...
33:19
SPEAKER_02: Thebirthstudio at gmail.com.
33:22
SPEAKER_02: All one word.
33:24
SPEAKER_02: But since we do something similar, if you're in Australia, go to Catherine.
33:30
SPEAKER_02: Thank you for the plug.
33:32
SPEAKER_02: Yes, you have a lot of people around you and so do I.
33:37
SPEAKER_02: They're happy.
33:38
SPEAKER_01: Well,
33:38
SPEAKER_01: I'll make sure to pop your email in the show notes because we do have listeners
33:42
SPEAKER_01: from America too, so we can always never know.
33:45
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
33:47
SPEAKER_01: And thank you,
33:47
SPEAKER_01: Claudia,
33:48
SPEAKER_01: for sharing those beautiful whispers,
33:51
SPEAKER_01: I guess, that come from little souls and also from the souls waiting to come in.
33:56
SPEAKER_01: Because sometimes it's nice just when you're a mom and you go
33:59
SPEAKER_01: through those different traumas,
34:01
SPEAKER_01: big T's or little T's,
34:03
SPEAKER_01: it's always nice to know that maybe the soul's still waiting for you.
34:06
SPEAKER_02: I would say there's like a 95% chance that the same soul will come in.
34:15
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, which is beautiful.
34:17
SPEAKER_01: And for anyone that if you enjoyed this episode,
34:20
SPEAKER_01: please feel free to share your comment,
34:21
SPEAKER_01: share your story,
34:23
SPEAKER_01: share this episode with somebody that you feel might need to hear these words
34:27
SPEAKER_01: and just know that it's okay.
34:30
SPEAKER_01: You know, it doesn't mean that you have to carry that guilt anymore.
34:33
SPEAKER_01: You can put it down.
34:34
SPEAKER_01: No guilt, no guilt, no guilt, no guilt.
34:39
SPEAKER_01: Thank you, Claudia.
34:40
SPEAKER_01: I appreciate you staying awake to have this interview and also for sharing
34:44
SPEAKER_01: and doing what you do in the world.
34:45
SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much.
34:48
SPEAKER_00: Hey, beautiful souls.
34:49
SPEAKER_00: It is Catherine Crestani here and I wanted to have a
34:51
SPEAKER_01: chat with you about a really amazing...
34:54
SPEAKER_01: Cacao that I drink to help me get in ceremony,
34:57
SPEAKER_01: to help me ground, but also just because it tastes freaking good.
35:01
SPEAKER_01: So if you're curious and want to know about drinking something other than coffee
35:05
SPEAKER_01: or your standard tea, why not check out Creation Cacao?
35:09
SPEAKER_01: I love this with a bit of honey and cinnamon sprinkled in and Just letting it brew
35:16
SPEAKER_01: and having that whole intention as you create this cup.
35:19
SPEAKER_01: So if you're curious and want to know more,
35:22
SPEAKER_01: check out the link in the show notes and in the bio and enjoy.
35:26
SPEAKER_01: Your cup of cacao.
35:28
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35:31
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35:35
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35:42
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35:45
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