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- 0:21Speaker 1: I finally get to talk some tennis around here. I mean,
- 0:24Speaker 1: Lord knows I have tried. I'm doing it with two
- 0:26Speaker 1: guys who don't care about tennis because football has started. Yes, Mikey,
- 0:30Speaker 1: what are you going to say before I bring on
- 0:32Speaker 1: Patrick McEnroe?
- 0:34Speaker 2: I just want to ask Patrick McEnroe if he thought
- 0:36Speaker 2: Drake May should have made that throw.
- 0:37Speaker 3: At the end of the game. What did you think
- 0:39Speaker 3: of that throw by Drake May? I'm certain he was
- 0:41Speaker 3: watching it.
- 0:42Speaker 2: That's a no-brainer, that one. That was horrendous. That was horrendous.
- 0:46Speaker 2: You know, I thought the Pats weren't going to be
- 0:48Speaker 2: as good this year, but now after that, I mean,
- 0:51Speaker 2: that was a disaster last night. Disaster.
- 0:55Speaker 3: Thank you for the football question, Mikey. You got it
- 0:57Speaker 3: in there. Patrick, help me out with this, and I
- 1:01Speaker 3: apologize for doing this to you.
- 1:04Speaker 1: But Adnan, on a scale of 1 to 10, because
- 1:07Speaker 1: I asked him to go seek you out and ask
- 1:09Speaker 1: you if you could introduce him to Roger Federer. So
- 1:12Speaker 1: I'm wondering here, scale of 1 to 10, how annoying
- 1:15Speaker 1: was Adnan Virk at Roger Federer's Hall of Fame induction ceremony?
- 1:19Speaker 2: Oh, my God. I mean, welcome to the crowd of people.
- 1:27Speaker 2: Could you get me a picture with Roger? Could you
- 1:29Speaker 2: get me this, that? I'll tell you, that was an
- 1:32Speaker 2: unbelievable weekend. I mean, this guy's like, he's like a
- 1:35Speaker 2: rock star. I mean, Roger Federer is like, he's like,
- 1:37Speaker 2: he's like the king or something when he shows up. It's, uh,
- 1:41Speaker 2: he's almost more popular now than when he was playing,
- 1:44Speaker 2: which is, which is saying something, but you know, we
- 1:46Speaker 2: sold the thing out in less than 60, 90 seconds,
- 1:50Speaker 2: you know, for the, for the induction weekend, which has
- 1:52Speaker 2: never happened before. Uh, but when he walks into a room,
- 1:55Speaker 2: it's pretty, it's pretty amazing. You know, he can, he
- 1:58Speaker 2: pretty much stops the place and, I interviewed him probably
- 2:02Speaker 2: three or four times over the course of the 48 hours,
- 2:06Speaker 2: and each time the guy was just phenomenal, absolutely phenomenal.
- 2:10Speaker 2: So he's a rock star. I mean, that's just the
- 2:13Speaker 2: way it is.
- 2:13Speaker 3: He really is.
- 2:15Speaker 1: It's amazing because when the tournament started, the U.S. Open,
- 2:18Speaker 1: and your coverage, all you guys, you have been fantastic.
- 2:21Speaker 1: But with Sinner out and Djokovic knocked out early and
- 2:23Speaker 1: Alcaraz coming off an injury, you're thinking to yourself, is
- 2:26Speaker 1: this going to be a great U.S.
- 2:27Speaker 2: Open?
- 2:29Speaker 3: It hasn't been a great U.S.
- 2:30Speaker 2: Open.
- 2:30Speaker 1: It's been one of the best U.S. Opens I've ever seen, Patrick.
- 2:33Speaker 1: The level of tennis has been amazing.
- 2:37Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, not only is the level of tennis
- 2:39Speaker 2: been amazing, but, you know, I think the buzz around
- 2:41Speaker 2: the tournament's been been pretty electric. And, you know, the
- 2:44Speaker 2: tennis has taken a lot of shit in the last
- 2:47Speaker 2: couple of week or two about, you know, the influencers
- 2:50Speaker 2: and the celebrities and all that stuff. And listen, I've
- 2:53Speaker 2: been around tennis my entire life. I mean, I started
- 2:56Speaker 2: going to the U.S. Open when I was a little kid,
- 2:58Speaker 2: back when it was at Forest Hills. And all we've
- 3:01Speaker 2: ever wanted in tennis is to get popular, to be happening,
- 3:06Speaker 2: to be a thing above and beyond just being a
- 3:08Speaker 2: great sport that we all in the tennis bubble love.
- 3:13Speaker 2: And it finally is starting to happen, and then they're
- 3:15Speaker 2: giving tennis shit for that. You know, like, oh, you're
- 3:17Speaker 2: becoming too popular. I mean, there's too many people there. Oh,
- 3:20Speaker 2: there's too many celebrities. Really? I thought that's what it
- 3:23Speaker 2: was supposed to be. But the tennis on the court
- 3:27Speaker 2: has been amazing. Listen, I picked Ben Shelton to win
- 3:30Speaker 2: the tournament before it started, so I'm looking fairly smart
- 3:33Speaker 2: at the moment. Yes. You know, I'm so sick and
- 3:37Speaker 2: tired of hearing the– you know, getting the question– When's
- 3:40Speaker 2: the next American man going to win a major? You know,
- 3:42Speaker 2: it's Andy Roddick, 2003 at the U.S. Open. And, you know,
- 3:47Speaker 2: I just want to see it happen because I think
- 3:49Speaker 2: we've got to, we, meaning the U.S., have a great
- 3:52Speaker 2: group of really good players. We haven't been able to
- 3:55Speaker 2: say we have a great player because they haven't been
- 3:58Speaker 2: able to win a major. But I think Ben Shelton's
- 4:00Speaker 2: got the it factor. He's got the monster serve. He's
- 4:04Speaker 2: a great athlete. He loves being out on the big stage.
- 4:08Speaker 2: He's got a lot of moxie. Now, Alcaraz wasn't at
- 4:10Speaker 2: his best, but he was still pretty damn good. And
- 4:14Speaker 2: to beat him the way he did in five sets
- 4:17Speaker 2: was a huge effort. Now, it's not going to get
- 4:19Speaker 2: easy because Tiafoe is going to be tough to beat.
- 4:22Speaker 2: So there will be an American man in the final
- 4:25Speaker 2: no matter what. I lean towards Shelton in that one
- 4:28Speaker 2: because I think he's just got a little more firepower,
- 4:29Speaker 2: a little more variety. But Sasha Zverev is going to
- 4:32Speaker 2: be damn tough to beat in the final. This guy
- 4:35Speaker 2: won a major. He's going to go in still as
- 4:37Speaker 2: the favorite. But I think if you're Ben Shelton at
- 4:40Speaker 2: this point, or even if it's Tiafoe, you've got to
- 4:43Speaker 2: say to yourself, I mean, this is my chance. Because
- 4:46Speaker 2: Sinner's hurt, you know, Alcaraz came in. I expected that
- 4:50Speaker 2: he was going to have a match where he wasn't
- 4:52Speaker 2: quite right. And that's what happened against Shelton. He didn't
- 4:56Speaker 2: do that throughout the first four rounds. So this is
- 4:59Speaker 2: a moment where you've got to say, man, I've got
- 5:01Speaker 2: to take this opportunity. Because you know what? It may
- 5:04Speaker 2: not happen again. Because Sinner and Alcaraz were that good.
- 5:07Speaker 2: when they're both on and they've been dominating the game
- 5:10Speaker 2: for the last two and a half years. So this
- 5:13Speaker 2: is the moment we've been waiting for to see if
- 5:15Speaker 2: it can actually happen.
- 5:16Speaker 1: The most impressive thing for me about Shelton and that
- 5:19Speaker 1: match and the way he's played here in the U.S.
- 5:21Speaker 1: Open is normally against Alcarez, there were times where he
- 5:23Speaker 1: would fold, right?
- 5:24Speaker 3: And Alcarez would just steamroll him. He didn't. He fought, Patrick.
- 5:28Speaker 1: That was a different Ben Shelton I saw on the
- 5:30Speaker 1: court against Carlos Alcarez.
- 5:32Speaker 3: He was fighting.
- 5:34Speaker 2: Yeah, I would slightly disagree with that. He's always been
- 5:37Speaker 2: a fighter. He's always been a competitor, but he didn't
- 5:40Speaker 2: have all the tools. So what's improved about his game
- 5:43Speaker 2: is that he's a better returner. He's getting more balls
- 5:47Speaker 2: in play. He's playing defensively when he has to because
- 5:51Speaker 2: to be at the top of the game, you've got
- 5:52Speaker 2: to be able to play defense and offense. And he's
- 5:55Speaker 2: able to slice the backhand, and he's using his serve
- 5:58Speaker 2: a lot better. He's not just a fastball pitcher. He
- 6:01Speaker 2: can hurt you with five different pitches. So yes, he
- 6:04Speaker 2: competed really well in that match, Dugat, but part of
- 6:08Speaker 2: the reason he was able to win it is because
- 6:10Speaker 2: he had more tools in his toolbox. He's improved his
- 6:14Speaker 2: game steadily. over the last couple of years, and that's
- 6:17Speaker 2: what came to fruition against Alcaraz.
- 6:19Speaker 1: Where does that match rank for you in terms of
- 6:21Speaker 1: all-time matches? Because it's right up there for me, man.
- 6:24Speaker 1: It was fun to watch.
- 6:24Speaker 3: I was up until 330.
- 6:27Speaker 2: Yeah, there were a couple 6-1 sets, so the level
- 6:30Speaker 2: wasn't consistently epic, like the Sinner-Alcaraz at the French Open
- 6:34Speaker 2: a couple years ago, and obviously the matches with Federer, Djokovic, Djokovic-Nadal.
- 6:40Speaker 2: I don't put it in that category. I don't put
- 6:43Speaker 2: it as a top 5, even a top 10 matchup.
- 6:45Speaker 2: all-time match for the level, but it certainly had the drama.
- 6:49Speaker 2: It certainly had, you know, with the, you know, let
- 6:52Speaker 2: me ask you guys this, because you guys are, you know,
- 6:55Speaker 2: your buddies, I know, don't care about tennis, but you
- 6:59Speaker 2: sort of do a little bit, but a lot, you know,
- 7:01Speaker 2: tennis is getting a lot of heat about the late starts.
- 7:04Speaker 2: Do you think that as a sports talk show crew
- 7:08Speaker 2: that you guys are you would be talking about it
- 7:11Speaker 2: as much if it hadn't gone until 3.33 in the morning.
- 7:15Speaker 1: No, I think the fact that it went until 3.33
- 7:17Speaker 1: in the morning, the match was such high quality. Both players,
- 7:20Speaker 1: the last set was so good. I stayed up the
- 7:23Speaker 1: entire time. Listen, it wasn't ideal, but that's part of
- 7:25Speaker 1: the charm of the U.S. Open is you're going to
- 7:27Speaker 1: have matches that end at 1.32, 2.30 in the morning.
- 7:31Speaker 3: It's just the way it is. I like it.
- 7:33Speaker 2: Yeah, and I agree with you. I've made this argument
- 7:36Speaker 2: a couple of times, and I'd be interested to hear
- 7:37Speaker 2: what you think about it. You know, tennis doesn't rate
- 7:40Speaker 2: that highly in television. It just doesn't. Not in this country.
- 7:43Speaker 2: It does in other countries, in Australia and in Europe.
- 7:46Speaker 2: You know, like the Australian Open, when I go there
- 7:48Speaker 2: with ESPN, it's the highest rated show of the year
- 7:52Speaker 2: in Australia. Not just in sports, a year. So my
- 7:54Speaker 2: point is this. if you played that match in prime time,
- 7:59Speaker 2: Shelton and Alcaraz, would more people watch it? Yes. Would
- 8:03Speaker 2: more people get to see it? Yes. But it would
- 8:05Speaker 2: still be way less than like the worst NFL game
- 8:08Speaker 2: of the week. Like it wouldn't even be close. Even
- 8:10Speaker 2: when we had Federer and Djokovic playing huge matches at Wimbledon,
- 8:14Speaker 2: you know, it moves the needle a little bit, but
- 8:16Speaker 2: you're talking about like, you know, from a million two
- 8:19Speaker 2: to a million eight or 2 million, that's a crappy
- 8:21Speaker 2: NFL game.
- 8:22Speaker 3: Yes.
- 8:22Speaker 2: A crappy college football game. So to me, It makes
- 8:26Speaker 2: the lore of sort of tennis better because people start
- 8:30Speaker 2: paying attention like, holy shit, can you believe that match
- 8:32Speaker 2: went till 333? How can they do this? How can
- 8:36Speaker 2: they do it in tennis? And here's where tennis makes
- 8:38Speaker 2: most of its money, professional tennis, from ticket sales, from sponsorships.
- 8:43Speaker 2: from corporate hospitality, you know, merchandise, all that stuff. And
- 8:47Speaker 2: the U.S. Open has exploded in the last few years.
- 8:50Speaker 2: The TV ratings are only a very small part of it.
- 8:53Speaker 2: You know, football, it's all about the TV ratings. They
- 8:55Speaker 2: make so much money from TV revenue. Tennis has never
- 8:59Speaker 2: been like that and arguably most likely never will be.
- 9:02Speaker 4: Patrick, if you worked a 9-to-5 job in New York
- 9:05Speaker 4: City and you went to this match as a spectator
- 9:08Speaker 4: and it ends at 3.30, what would be your plans?
- 9:11Speaker 4: Would you just stay out until you had to go
- 9:13Speaker 4: to work? Would you try to go home, get a
- 9:14Speaker 4: little power nap in?
- 9:15Speaker 3: I mean, that place was packed, Patrick. It really was
- 9:17Speaker 3: at 3.30.
- 9:18Speaker 2: Listen, you know, with my schedule, and I just took one,
- 9:21Speaker 2: I've perfected like the 28-to-42-minute power nap. And I literally
- 9:27Speaker 2: just took one, which is why I asked Stugatz, can
- 9:30Speaker 2: we start this 15 minutes later? So that's what I
- 9:33Speaker 2: would have done. I would have gone home and taken
- 9:35Speaker 2: a power nap. And I actually saw some video just
- 9:38Speaker 2: earlier today of people waiting for the subway to go
- 9:42Speaker 2: back to the city. at like 4.15 a.m. And again,
- 9:46Speaker 2: that's sort of the lore of what makes it cool.
- 9:49Speaker 2: And you know what? The buzz now, I'm glad they
- 9:53Speaker 2: got it right with the schedule for tomorrow for the
- 9:55Speaker 2: men's semis. They put the Tiafoe shelter. match at 7 p.m.
- 10:01Speaker 2: in prime time. So that's going to be a monster
- 10:03Speaker 2: rating for tennis in television. because in the past, tennis
- 10:08Speaker 2: might have put that match in the day because Zverev
- 10:10Speaker 2: has played every night, and they want to be quote-unquote
- 10:12Speaker 2: fair to the players. But they got this right because
- 10:16Speaker 2: he's got a full day off. He finished kind of
- 10:18Speaker 2: early last night. So I'm glad to see that the U.S.
- 10:21Speaker 2: Open put the schedule out and will put that match,
- 10:24Speaker 2: because that match will move the needle for the casual
- 10:27Speaker 2: tennis fan, I think, the Tiafoe-Shelton semifinal.
- 10:30Speaker 1: How did your brother handle that, like being done at
- 10:32Speaker 1: 3.33 in the morning?
- 10:33Speaker 2: Does he sleep at Arthur Ashe? Yeah, when I saw
- 10:37Speaker 2: him the next day, I said, what time did you
- 10:39Speaker 2: get to bed? He goes, you know, about 6, about 5, 4, 5, 6.
- 10:43Speaker 2: And he didn't even play it, so he was fired up.
- 10:46Speaker 2: But he went, you know, he slept a few hours.
- 10:48Speaker 2: He went to our tennis academy. He hit some balls,
- 10:51Speaker 2: and he comes out there. We're ready to go. That's
- 10:53Speaker 2: what we do. particularly at the U.S. Open, which has
- 10:56Speaker 2: made night tennis famous. Now they have it in Australia.
- 11:00Speaker 2: It often happens the same deal in Australia. I remember
- 11:03Speaker 2: years ago, I don't know if you remember this, you guys,
- 11:04Speaker 2: you may as a tennis fan. Leighton Hewitt played Baghdadis,
- 11:07Speaker 2: Marcos Baghdadis, and it started well after 11 p.m. The
- 11:12Speaker 2: match finished well after 4 a.m. in Australia. And I remember,
- 11:17Speaker 2: because in Australia, the beauty of the tournament is you
- 11:19Speaker 2: can walk from the stadium and like 10 minutes back
- 11:23Speaker 2: to the hotel. It's downtown. It's right by downtown. That's
- 11:26Speaker 2: where they're playing the football game tonight, literally across the
- 11:29Speaker 2: street from the tennis facility. So I walked back to
- 11:32Speaker 2: my hotel room, and it was light. It was light outside.
- 11:36Speaker 2: I'm walking back to my hotel room. When I got
- 11:38Speaker 2: to my hotel door, the newspaper had been delivered. Back
- 11:42Speaker 2: when we read newspapers, the newspaper had been delivered to
- 11:45Speaker 2: my door. That's how late early it was. So this
- 11:48Speaker 2: has happened before in tennis.
- 11:51Speaker 3: So great.
- 12:02Speaker 1: Who do you like in the women's semifinals tonight? It's
- 12:05Speaker 1: two great matches, prime time. Who do you like in
- 12:08Speaker 1: these matches?
- 12:09Speaker 2: I'm calling the first match live on ESPN. You know,
- 12:13Speaker 2: I hope Pagula wins because I think she's been, you know,
- 12:16Speaker 2: she sort of, to me, deserves to win a major.
- 12:19Speaker 2: She's been knocking on the door. She's three in the world.
- 12:21Speaker 2: She's got the most wins on tour. But if I
- 12:24Speaker 2: were betting, which I'm not, I would bet on Sabalenka,
- 12:27Speaker 2: who's just got, you know, more firepower. more overall game
- 12:31Speaker 2: than Pagula has. But Pagula's beaten her a bunch of times,
- 12:34Speaker 2: but she's lost to her. It's 9-4 head-to-head. So I
- 12:37Speaker 2: think Sabalenka should win that. She's looking for the three-peat
- 12:42Speaker 2: and to win a major this year, which she hasn't done.
- 12:44Speaker 2: But my heart's pulling for Pagula. I think Coco's going
- 12:48Speaker 2: to find a way. Rabakina, who's now taken over number one,
- 12:52Speaker 2: having won her quarterfinal and won the Australian this year,
- 12:55Speaker 2: is the best pure ball striker in tennis, in women's tennis.
- 12:59Speaker 2: She hits the ball massively big off both wings. She's
- 13:02Speaker 2: very quiet. I mean, she's very mild-mannered, so she doesn't
- 13:04Speaker 2: create a lot of buzz outside. I mean, not even
- 13:07Speaker 2: in the tennis world she doesn't create the buzz. But
- 13:10Speaker 2: if she's playing well, she could beat Coco comfortably. But
- 13:14Speaker 2: Coco's been incredibly finding ways to just win matches when
- 13:18Speaker 2: she's not at her best. And I think she thrives
- 13:21Speaker 2: in the open crowd. The place will be buzzing tonight.
- 13:23Speaker 2: So I'm picking Coco to win, and I'm actually picking
- 13:26Speaker 2: her to win the tournament now. Nice.
- 13:28Speaker 3: Do you think we've seen the last of Novak Djokovic?
- 13:31Speaker 2: I don't think so. I think he'll play again. I
- 13:34Speaker 2: think he wants to go out his last tournament puking
- 13:38Speaker 2: on the court and feeling like crap, which is the
- 13:40Speaker 2: same way he felt in Cincinnati, which is the only
- 13:43Speaker 2: other match he played since Wimbledon. And he's playing well
- 13:47Speaker 2: enough this year to be a factor in majors. I
- 13:50Speaker 2: said at the end of 2023, when he dominated that year,
- 13:55Speaker 2: I was asked in the beginning of 24 how many
- 13:58Speaker 2: more majors would Djokovic win. Do you know what I
- 14:00Speaker 2: said then, Stugac? No. I said none. And I've been
- 14:08Speaker 2: proven correct. Not because I don't like Djokovic. He's the
- 14:10Speaker 2: greatest of all time. Of course. But because I saw
- 14:13Speaker 2: the storm that was coming. Yes. That was Alcaraz and Sinner.
- 14:16Speaker 2: These guys are so freaking good.
- 14:18Speaker 3: Right.
- 14:18Speaker 2: I said, I don't think he can beat both these
- 14:21Speaker 2: guys in a major, which has proven to be true.
- 14:23Speaker 2: He has beaten one. He beat Sinner at the Australian,
- 14:26Speaker 2: which to me was one of his greatest victories of
- 14:28Speaker 2: all time. Yes. That he beat Sinner. But I don't
- 14:31Speaker 2: think he can win. But I don't think... I don't
- 14:33Speaker 2: think he's playing now just to try to win a major.
- 14:36Speaker 2: I think he's playing because he just loves it. He
- 14:38Speaker 2: loves the battle. He's loving the accolades, which he's deservedly
- 14:41Speaker 2: getting now that the other two guys are long gone,
- 14:44Speaker 2: Federer and Nadal. And I think he loves to go
- 14:47Speaker 2: out there. So I think he'll give it one more shot,
- 14:50Speaker 2: one more year. Australia is still the place where he's
- 14:52Speaker 2: had the most success. So I think we see him
- 14:55Speaker 2: again down under in Melbourne. In Melbourne, Australia, down under.
- 15:00Speaker 3: I know the McEnroes love football. I'm wondering.
- 15:02Speaker 1: How do you navigate calling the tennis this weekend and
- 15:05Speaker 1: watching and paying attention to the opening weekend of the
- 15:08Speaker 1: NFL season?
- 15:08Speaker 3: How are you going to do that?
- 15:11Speaker 2: We have the TVs on the games. Like someone was saying, well,
- 15:13Speaker 2: you're going to miss the game tonight. I said, well,
- 15:15Speaker 2: I'm calling the first match, so I'll come home. I'll
- 15:18Speaker 2: pop a little Dos Hombres right here, my new sponsor
- 15:21Speaker 2: of the Mac Daddy Show. Love it. And I'll have
- 15:22Speaker 2: a little sip of that, and I'll watch the football,
- 15:24Speaker 2: and I'll watch the tennis. So I'll go back and forth.
- 15:27Speaker 2: That's what I do. That's what we do on Sunday
- 15:30Speaker 2: during week number one. And then when the U.S. Open's over,
- 15:33Speaker 2: we take a little breather and we get into the football.
- 15:36Speaker 2: Because for us at ESPN, not for the rest of
- 15:39Speaker 2: the tennis world, but for us at ESPN, the season's
- 15:42Speaker 2: over at the end of the U.S. Open. For the players,
- 15:44Speaker 2: you know, they go on and on for months. They
- 15:45Speaker 2: go to Asia. They do an Asian swing. They go
- 15:47Speaker 2: to Europe. So they're super busy. That's what it was
- 15:50Speaker 2: for us when we played. But now we get to
- 15:52Speaker 2: sort of like. be like the regular fans, take a
- 15:55Speaker 2: break from tennis, and get pumped up for football season.
- 15:57Speaker 2: You know, pumped up for my J-E-T-S, Jets, Jets, Jets, baby.
- 16:01Speaker 2: Let's go. Let's win four games this year. Come on,
- 16:04Speaker 2: you guys.
- 16:05Speaker 3: Four is too many. I mean, that might not get
- 16:07Speaker 3: us the quarterback we want, you know?
- 16:10Speaker 2: Killing me.
- 16:10Speaker 3: Killing me.
- 16:12Speaker 2: How horrible. I appreciate you guys having me on. I
- 16:16Speaker 2: got to go because I.
- 16:17Speaker 3: Got to go do another.
- 16:19Speaker 2: Show with my buddy Adam Shine over at Sirius. Love him.
- 16:22Speaker 3: Oh, he's great.
- 16:22Speaker 2: But you guys, let's get me on every week. We
- 16:25Speaker 2: could do a little picks. We'll have some picks for them.
- 16:27Speaker 2: I got the Bills over the Rams to win it all.
- 16:30Speaker 2: Just FYI. Okay. Yes.
- 16:33Speaker 1: I would love to do this every week. Let's make
- 16:35Speaker 1: it a date. I'm tempted to ask you to bring
- 16:37Speaker 1: John on. I'll bring a doubles partner on. Well, all
- 16:40Speaker 1: four of us will make picks and we'll have a
- 16:41Speaker 1: wager on it.
- 16:42Speaker 3: What do you think?
- 16:43Speaker 2: Yeah, that could be a little more complicated to get
- 16:46Speaker 2: him to do that. But I get your drift.
- 16:48Speaker 3: I get your drift. All right. We'll talk to you
- 16:51Speaker 3: next week. We'll make picks. We'll make them official. All
- 16:53Speaker 3: the best, guys. Tell Sean I said hello. Thank you, Patrick.
- 16:56Speaker 2: All the best, guys. Enjoy the season.
- 16:58Speaker 3: All right.
- 16:58Speaker 2: Take care.