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- 0:00The following episode features a historic article from the
- 0:02Nebraska History magazine. This article may reflect the
- 0:04language and attitudes of its time and while it offers
- 0:06valuable insight into the past, may contend expressions or
- 0:08viewpoints that are outdated or offensive by today's standards.
- 0:10Any outdated terms do not reflect the current views or
- 0:12perspectives of the Nebraska State Historical Society.
- 0:16Welcome to the Nebraska History podcast.
- 0:18I'm your host, Chris Goforth. Each episode we explore articles
- 0:22written and published in Nebraska History Magazine.
- 0:25Fort Robinson in northwest Nebraska once served as a World
- 0:29War 2 prisoner of war camp. One of the war's best kept
- 0:33secrets was a secret program meant to denotify German
- 0:38soldiers implemented at camps across the country, including at
- 0:41Fort Robinson. This episode explores this
- 0:45secret program through the 2005 Nebraska History Magazine
- 0:48article Still the Old Marlene Hollywood at the Fort Robinson
- 0:52Prisoner of War Camp written by Melissa Marsh.
- 0:57Bill tonight too many girls. Sounds like a nice one.
- 1:01German prisoner of war Wolfgang Dorschel scribbled this comment
- 1:04in his diary on February 25th, 1945, a year and four months
- 1:10after his arrival at the PW camp at Fort Robinson in northwestern
- 1:14Nebraska. Dorschel, like thousands of
- 1:16other prisoners across America, loved to watch movies,
- 1:20especially popular Hollywood films, and he braved the dry
- 1:23Nebraska heat and the icy chill of winter to pack into the camp
- 1:28movie house with his fellow prisoners and indulge in one of
- 1:31America's favorite pastimes. But there were those who had
- 1:34aims other than simple entertainment for Hollywood's
- 1:37portrayal of America and sought to incorporate film into one of
- 1:41the best kept secrets of the Prisoner of War program, the
- 1:45Intellectual Diversion program, a top secret endeavor to de
- 1:49Nazify Hitler soldiers held in American prison camps in
- 1:54Nebraska, there were three PW base camps, Camp Atlanta in
- 1:58Phelps County, Fort Robinson in Dawes County, and Camp
- 2:02Scottsbluff in Scottsbluff County.
- 2:05Camp Scottsbluff was the oldest of the three, with prisoners
- 2:08arriving as early as June 1943. In addition, Italian prisoners
- 2:13were briefly interned at Fort Crook in Sarpy County near
- 2:16Omaha. With the exception of those at
- 2:19Fort Robinson, most of the prisoners worked as agricultural
- 2:23and contract laborers. Of the three, only the PW camp
- 2:28at Fort Robinson was located near a military post.
- 2:31The War Department decided that most large base camps could not
- 2:35efficiently distribute the prisoners where they were needed
- 2:37as workers, and a network of branch camps was created to
- 2:41house more than 100,000 prisoners in the US who could be
- 2:45working in private industries, including logging, meatpacking,
- 2:49mining, railroads, foundries, and agriculture.
- 2:53Branch camps were highly diversified in both capacity and
- 2:56layout, and more than 500 were built across the country.
- 3:00In Nebraska, Camp Atlanta had some 15 branch camps.
- 3:04In the southern half of the state, Camp Scottsbluff had four
- 3:08branch camps. Fort Robinson was chosen as APW
- 3:12camp for its adaptability to the purpose it was isolated, it had
- 3:16excellent railroad connections, and there were many work
- 3:19projects to keep the prisoners busy.
- 3:22Since it was an Army remount depot housing thousands of
- 3:25horses and had canine dog units as well, there was no shortage
- 3:30of work for prisoners on the Fort grounds.
- 3:33All in all, it seemed a perfect place for German prisoners to
- 3:36wait out the war. The first German prisoners to
- 3:39arrive at Fort Robinson were members of Rommel's 10th Panzer
- 3:43Division from the North Africa Campaign.
- 3:46Captured in May of 1943, they arrived at Fort Robinson on
- 3:49November 19th, 1943. Although many prisoners had been
- 3:54conscripts with little or no loyalty to the Nazi regime,
- 3:57about 30% of the prisoners in American camps were Nazis or
- 4:02Nazi sympathizers. The value of D nazification in
- 4:06the hundreds of prison of war camps in the United States have
- 4:09become apparent As early as March of 1943.
- 4:13Even in the quiet rolling hills in buttes of the Fort Robinson
- 4:17camp, far away from the battles raging on European soil, Nazism
- 4:22was alive and well. Prisoner of war Staff Sergeant
- 4:26Harry Heunmorter, a 37 year old senior ranking noncommissioned
- 4:30officer, was pro Nazi. Worse, the other prisoners had
- 4:34elected him camp spokesman, an important position guaranteed by
- 4:39Article 43 of the Geneva Convention.
- 4:41The camp spokesman offered an important link between the
- 4:46American command and the prisoner community.
- 4:49But Heunmorter had been in the German military for over 13
- 4:53years and Hitler's rhetoric had taken root.
- 4:56He came to Fort Robinson November 1943 with the first
- 5:01batch of prisoners captured in Tunisia by the British,
- 5:05according to a Field Service camp survey of February 15th
- 5:081945. His character was beyond
- 5:12reproach. He is honest and sincere in his
- 5:15dealings, commands the respect of the commanding officer as
- 5:18well as the men in the compound. His pro Nazi tendencies were no
- 5:23secret to the other prisoners, indeed they had elected him to
- 5:27his post. But there were those who had
- 5:30grave misgivings about their survival if they stayed at the
- 5:34camp. In a letter to the War
- 5:36Department, a group of Austrian prisoners at Fort Robinson
- 5:39requested a transfer to an Austrian camp.
- 5:43In the letter they identified Hume Mortar as quote the head
- 5:46Nazi, and also made accusations that the American camp commander
- 5:51had a strong dislike for the anti Nazis and Austrians Quote.
- 5:55We have repeatedly asked the American leadership to separate
- 5:59the Nazis from the anti Nazis, and likewise in the American
- 6:03prison of war camps. But in this prisoner of war camp
- 6:07with the camp commander, this is not possible.
- 6:10End Quote. They were not the only Austrian
- 6:14PWS to flood Washington with transfer petitions.
- 6:17In addition to these letters, Secretary of War Henry Stimson
- 6:21declared quote. It is the opinion of this
- 6:24department that Article 9 of the Geneva Prisoner of War
- 6:27Convention does not have the effect of placing on the United
- 6:30States the obligation to segregate prisoners of war of
- 6:33Austrian origin or nationality. End Quote.
- 6:37This directive continued to hold even by the Assistant director
- 6:41of the Prisoner of War Division, Major Edward Davison, who
- 6:44stated, quote the segregation of Austrians from German prisoners
- 6:48of war will not be of special advantage to the Special
- 6:51Projects program. End Quote.
- 6:54Camps with Nazi spokesman were not uncommon and often became
- 6:58models of efficiency. A well run camp would endear the
- 7:01Nazis to the American command. This apparently became evident
- 7:05to those with anti Nazi feelings.
- 7:08In the letter mentioned above, the Austrians wrote quote, every
- 7:11other word of Colonel Blaine is my Africans, which by that
- 7:16Mister Colonel Blaine means his Nazis.
- 7:18End Quote. Indeed, it has been suggested
- 7:21that the Americans seem to have an unwritten policy of making
- 7:24any concession that helped keep the compounds running smoothly.
- 7:29The general aim of the American command was to maintain
- 7:31tranquility. Tranquility at Fort Robinson was
- 7:34a common thread weaving through the numerous inspection reports.
- 7:38Remarks included, quote, the entire camp presented a neat
- 7:42appearance. The Swiss representative stated
- 7:44that his investigation had disclosed the morale of the
- 7:47prisoners at the camp was very good.
- 7:49He had no complaint to make whatever with regard to the
- 7:53physical setup of the camp. And quote, the writer feels that
- 7:57the camp commander is administering this camp very
- 8:00effectively and in a very efficient manner.
- 8:02End Quote. Still, many incidents involved
- 8:06Nazism occurred at Fort Robinson.
- 8:08Prisoner Ernst Gunther Umack was put into protective custody
- 8:12because other PO WS had threatened his life.
- 8:14A memo to headquarters from Camp Commander Colonel Arthur C
- 8:18Blaine detailed the reasons surrounding Umack's situation.
- 8:22Because he read and translated American newspapers for other
- 8:25prisoners, many called him a traitor.
- 8:28Umack was scheduled to be transferred to Camp Carlisle in
- 8:30Pennsylvania where his anti Nazi tendencies may make him
- 8:34valuable. However, a memo from Colonel
- 8:37Russell H Sweet dated August 2nd, 1944 stated quote he is not
- 8:43desired at Carlisle, End Quote. And it was recommended that
- 8:46Umack be transferred to an anti Nazi camp.
- 8:49Umack finally ended up at Camp Ruston in Louisiana.
- 8:53Prisoner Otto Ludvig had made anti Nazi statements in the
- 8:57camp, one of which spokesman Hewn Mortar recorded in a letter
- 9:00attached to the transfer order quote.
- 9:03Inquiries made with the company leader Colonel A reported that
- 9:07Ludwig at dinner time used in the mess hall.
- 9:10Colonel A the following sentence directed to his comrades.
- 9:14If we win the war, I will never return to Germany.
- 9:17If we lose it, I will deliver the Nazis to the knife.
- 9:21End Quote. Goonworder went on to explain
- 9:23that Ludwig's transfer would be in the interest of good order
- 9:26and discipline among German soldiers in this camp.
- 9:30Camp commander Colonel Blaine agreed, stating that Ludwig's
- 9:33continued presence in this camp is considered dangerous to
- 9:35himself. Ludwig was in protective custody
- 9:39to prevent harm from befalling him at the hands of other
- 9:42prisoners. Ludwig's transfer to Camp McLean
- 9:45in Mississippi was authorized on February 22nd, 1944, a mere four
- 9:50days after the incident was reported.
- 9:53He returned to the Fort in 1987 and recalled the incidents
- 9:56leading up to his transfer, including cold water thrown on
- 10:00his bed and a severe beating. Quote, I got very bad treatment
- 10:04from my comrades, he said. That's the reason why they sent
- 10:07me later to Camp McLean in Mississippi and quote, Such
- 10:11occurrences only fueled the efforts behind the RE Education
- 10:15program. As early as March 1943, the War
- 10:18Department had recognized the need to break the grip of Nazism
- 10:21in the PW camps through RE Education.
- 10:24According to the proposal sent to General Frederick Osborne of
- 10:27the Information and Education Division through General George
- 10:31C Marshall. The program's goal would be such
- 10:34that, quote, prisoners of war might be exposed to the facts of
- 10:37American history, the workings of a democracy, and the
- 10:40contributions made to America by peoples of all national origins.
- 10:44End Quote. Yet Major General Allen W
- 10:47Gillian, the Provost Marshall General, thought the plan
- 10:50unwise. Quote.
- 10:52Enemy prisoners of war are for the most part not children.
- 10:56Those who have sufficient intellectual capacity to be a
- 11:00value to a post war world have already built the philosophical
- 11:03frameworks of their respective lives.
- 11:06Those whose minds are sufficiently plastic to be
- 11:09affected by the program are probably not worth the effort.
- 11:12End Quote. The plan was shelved on June
- 11:1424th, 1943, but Nazism in the camps became worse.
- 11:20Wedding out Nazis from the anti Nazis eventually became the tool
- 11:23of choice to control the violence.
- 11:26On July 17th, 1944, a comprehensive directive from the
- 11:30War Department was issued segregating the Nazis from the
- 11:33Anti Nazis. All German army officer
- 11:36prisoners were to be separated from their non commissioned
- 11:39officers and enlisted men to be put in either the Anti Nazi Camp
- 11:43Rust in Louisiana or to the Pro Nazi Camp Alva in Oklahoma.
- 11:48German NC OS were isolated at camps designated for their
- 11:52service command. Prisoners from the 7th Service
- 11:55Command, which included Fort Robinson, were to be transferred
- 11:58to Camp Clark in Missouri. Nevertheless, stories of camp
- 12:02violence continue to emerge. The public was frustrated by
- 12:05perceived government inaction, and the situation soon became
- 12:09fodder for editorials, columns and letters to the editor.
- 12:13Even Eleanor Roosevelt became involved after Dorothy Bromley
- 12:17of the New York Herald Tribune and syndicated columnist Dorothy
- 12:21Thompson presented the problem to her missus.
- 12:24Roosevelt spoke to her husband, who then spoke to the
- 12:27Secretaries of War and State. They in turn told the new
- 12:31Provost Marshall, General Archer Lurch to get out the year old
- 12:36plan produced by General Marshall.
- 12:39Despite the public outcry and demand for resolution of the
- 12:42Nazism problem, the War Department knew it faced several
- 12:46important obstacles. The most important was the
- 12:48Geneva Convention's rule prohibiting captors from
- 12:51subjecting enemy prisoners to propaganda.
- 12:54This carried far reaching overtones.
- 12:57If word leaked of German prisoners being subjected to
- 13:00propaganda, American PWS held in Germany might then be subject to
- 13:04retaliation. The government's desire to
- 13:07protect American PWS required that the program remain A
- 13:11closely held secret. But how did one get around the
- 13:15Geneva Convention itself? Article 17 contain the necessary
- 13:20loophole, the article stated. Quote So far as possible,
- 13:24belligerents shall encourage intellectual diversions and
- 13:28sports organized by prisoners of war.
- 13:30End Quote Since intellectual diversion was encouraged, it
- 13:35remained up to the War Department to choose the proper
- 13:37subjects and media. Representatives of the War
- 13:41Department and the State Department concluded that quote,
- 13:44if selected media for intellectual diversion were made
- 13:47available in the camps, the curiosity of the prisoners
- 13:50concerning the United States and its institutions would provide
- 13:54the means for their re education.
- 13:56End Quote. The program was put under the
- 13:59command of the Office of the Provost Marshall General, who
- 14:02created a subcommittee to establish the policy and
- 14:05procedures of the Intellectual Diversion Program.
- 14:09The program officially began on September 6th, 1944.
- 14:14The American public, still unaware of the secret program,
- 14:18continued to criticize the War Department.
- 14:20But by November, when an article entitled What to Do with German
- 14:25Prisoners, criticizing the stupidity of the government and
- 14:28handling the PWS appeared in the Atlantic Monthly, personnel
- 14:32ready to begin the reeducations program were already arriving at
- 14:36the camps. Under the direction of Colonel
- 14:39Edward Davison and Major Maxwell McKnight, the Prisoners of War
- 14:43Special Programs Division was formed, enlisting the talents of
- 14:47a variety of academics and intellectuals, including Walter
- 14:51Schoenstedt, a German novelist who had fled the fatherland,
- 14:55Robert L Kunzig, a lawyer and professor, and Harvard Professor
- 15:00Howard Mumford Jones. The Prisoners of War Special
- 15:04Programs Division staff worked at 50 Broadway in New York City,
- 15:08a location chosen to avoid revealing the intrusion of
- 15:12academia into military affairs and to avoid the scrutiny of
- 15:17officious military overseers. The core objective of the plan
- 15:21was outlined by Provost Marshall.
- 15:23General's Office quote. The prisoners would be given
- 15:26facts objectively presented but so selected and assembled as to
- 15:31correct misinformation and prejudices.
- 15:33Surviving Nazi conditioning, the facts, rather than being forced
- 15:38upon them, would be made available through such media as
- 15:41literature, motion pictures, newspapers, music, art, and
- 15:46educational courses. Two types of facts were needed,
- 15:50those which would conceive them of the impracticality and
- 15:53viciousness of the Nazi position.
- 15:55If a large variety of facts could be presented convincingly,
- 15:59perhaps the German prisoners of war might understand and believe
- 16:03historical and ethical truth as generally conceived by Western
- 16:07civilization, might come to respect the American people and
- 16:10their ideological values, and upon repatriation to Germany,
- 16:15might form the nucleus of a new German ideology which will
- 16:19reject militarism and totalitarian controls and will
- 16:22advocate a democratic system of government.
- 16:25End Quote. To fulfill such a lofty goal,
- 16:28the Idea Factory, as it came to be known, was born.
- 16:32Originally begun at Camp Van Atten in upstate New York and
- 16:36moved to its permanent location at Fort Kearney in Rhode Island
- 16:40five months later, The Idea Factory consisted of German PWS
- 16:44who were carefully screened for their anti Nazi attitudes and
- 16:48their responses on questionnaires.
- 16:51Although this selection was not foolproof, the Americans did
- 16:55have an advantage. Hitler's impending defeat had
- 16:58soured many Germans against Nazism.
- 17:01Others had never been ardent admirers of Nazism.
- 17:05Moreover, when the reeducation program appeared, many PWS had
- 17:09been prisoners for two or three years, offering them ample
- 17:13opportunity to think about Germany's status in the world.
- 17:17These prisoners were involved in the experimental phase of the
- 17:20reeducation program. Although pro Nazism was still a
- 17:24problem in the camps, this group was determined to do something
- 17:27about it. The special project staff then
- 17:30assembled a division of specially qualified German
- 17:34prisoners, writers, professors and linguists who were dedicated
- 17:38anti Nazis. All were volunteers, all were
- 17:41officers, and all renounced their Vermont rank, lending the
- 17:45group in egalitarian air. The prisoners enjoyed far more
- 17:49freedom at Fort Kearney than they had at their camps.
- 17:52No guards or towers policed their movements, and they even
- 17:56were permitted to take the ferry to Jamestown in army trucks to
- 18:00pick up their supplies. Perhaps, however, this elite
- 18:03group was not the most prudent choice.
- 18:06Although the group was happy to be among other intellectuals,
- 18:10Ron Robin writes quote. They aided and abetted the
- 18:13construction of an intellectual enterprise with little
- 18:16acknowledgement of the cultural standards and preferences of
- 18:20rank and file. PO WS End Quote.
- 18:23Since they were at the core of the program, many of their
- 18:26cultural biases would show in the program itself.
- 18:30Robin believes the academic, intellectual and cultural tastes
- 18:34of the Idea Factory did not mesh with the tastes of the average
- 18:37prisoner that ultimately would have adverse effects on the
- 18:41program. The Idea Factory was separated
- 18:44into subdivisions which included Quote, A film section which
- 18:48reviewed movies and translated synopsis.
- 18:51A review section which made recommendations on the
- 18:54suitability of material passed on by other governmental
- 18:57agencies. A translation Bureau which
- 19:00translated the curriculum designed in the New York
- 19:02headquarters. A camp newspaper section which
- 19:05monitored the tone of some 70 camp newspapers and Der Roofs,
- 19:10the national POW Newspapers editorial staff.
- 19:13End Quote. The reeducation program had not
- 19:17yet begun when Wolfgang Dorschel and the rest of the first
- 19:20prisoners arrived at Fort Robinson in November of 1943.
- 19:25According to Dorschel's military record book, he was born in 1911
- 19:29in Tombach, Deitharts, making him 28 years old at the start of
- 19:32World War 2. Old enough to have escaped the
- 19:35brainwashing attempts of the Hitler Youth, Dorschel saw first
- 19:39hand the atrocities committed by the Nazis.
- 19:42He lived near the Buchenwald concentration camp and in years
- 19:46later described the experience. Secrecy was vital, and when
- 19:50convoys from the train station to the camp traveled through
- 19:53town, citizens were ordered to close their shutters and stay
- 19:57off the streets. Dorschel took supplies to the
- 20:00camp but had to sign papers promising secrecy.
- 20:04Quote. It's hard to explain to a free
- 20:07man 50 years later why we couldn't talk.
- 20:11I didn't talk because I had signed a contract not to talk.
- 20:15But also, I knew the minute that I talked.
- 20:18I would be in the concentration camp too.
- 20:20End Quote. Dorschel refused to join the
- 20:23National Socialist Party and even when he was drafted into
- 20:27the German army, Dorschel kept a detailed diary during his years
- 20:32as APW, offering an intimate glimpse into life at the Fort
- 20:37Robinson camp. By January 1944, the profits
- 20:41from the camp's canteen were high enough to purchase a 16mm
- 20:45film projector. Dorschel's first diary entry
- 20:48regarding the film came in late February 1944, a comment on the
- 20:53costume classic The Flame of New Orleans starring Marlene
- 20:58Dietrich. Wonderful.
- 21:00Dorschel wrote Still the old Marlene as 1930 in Blue Angel.
- 21:05It is not clear if this was the first movie Dorschel saw at the
- 21:09camp or if he did not write anything about the first film
- 21:13shown. Nevertheless, the decision to
- 21:15show a movie starring a famous German actress, by then an
- 21:19expatriate from Germany to Hollywood, could hardly have
- 21:22been an accident. The movie house at Fort Robinson
- 21:25consisted of two barracks buildings.
- 21:28Once every five days, each prisoner could attend a film
- 21:31program of a feature length film and two shorts.
- 21:35The pay for the rental of films, $100, was withdrawn from the PW
- 21:40fund every 10 days. The assistant executive officer,
- 21:44Captain Jason Silverman and the camp spokesman usually wrote a
- 21:47short synopsis of the film to distribute to prisoners who
- 21:50lacked English skills and most American movies were subtitled.
- 21:55Films were not strictly regulated before the RE
- 21:57Education program. Up until 1945, the camp
- 22:01spokesman, Harry Hyun Mortar usually selected movies.
- 22:05Hyun Mortar made it a point to select films that quote showed
- 22:08American life in the worst possible light and quote.
- 22:12According to Alfred Thompson, who began as an enlisted man on
- 22:16staff of the RE Education Program and later became its
- 22:19assistant executive Officer, the film program was the most
- 22:23influential portion of the RE Education Program.
- 22:26And the predominant point of view was that the prisoners were
- 22:30spending too much time and too much money for films which were
- 22:34not of the nature as would be of the benefit to them or to the
- 22:38United States, their keeper. The films chosen at Fort
- 22:41Robinson only emphasize this point.
- 22:44YMCA Inspector Howard Hong's report of July 31st, 1944
- 22:49reported a problem with the choice of films.
- 22:52Although there was no shortage of men attending the film
- 22:54programs, quote, they did not especially care for most of the
- 22:57films. The low quality of content left
- 23:00them a deepening impression of an inferior America.
- 23:03And that there's nothing other than whiskey drinking gangsters,
- 23:06wild women and horse thieves. And quote, worse.
- 23:09Hong said the prisoners had been overheard discussing the films.
- 23:13If this is America, they would say America is centuries behind
- 23:17us. In a letter to his parents on
- 23:20February 13th, 1946, Alfred Thompson shared his perception
- 23:25of the camp spokesman's film choice.
- 23:28Quote They purchased from private companies the worst of
- 23:31movies one could choose, interspersed with musicals and
- 23:35heavy drama which appealed to the extremes.
- 23:38Deanna Durbin ruled the roost with Tex Ritter and his pals on
- 23:41the other side of the corral fence.
- 23:44America became to them a land of half naked women fighting
- 23:47families, the roaring West and the gangster East End.
- 23:51Quote Dorschel's diary is testament to both Thompson's
- 23:55assessment and Howard Hong's report.
- 23:58Movies listed in his diary included numerous Abbott and
- 24:01Costello films such as Ride Em Cowboy, which Dorschel called
- 24:06Very Very Funny, Kit, The Ice, One Night in the Tropics, Pardon
- 24:11My Sarong and Whodunit, which Dorschel called Nice, a funny
- 24:15criminal film. Marlene Dietrich.
- 24:18Films such as The Seven Sinners and Deanna Durbin films,
- 24:22including First Love, It Started With Eve and The Master of
- 24:25Melody, were also offered. But Thompson suggested another
- 24:29reason why only certain films were available to the prisoners.
- 24:33He said that many private companies were out to make money
- 24:36by selling cheap films to the camps at a fat profit.
- 24:40Thompson wrote Quote. They filled their shelves with
- 24:43trash, advertised half hundred of good films of which they had
- 24:47but a few copies, and sloughed the bad films off on the PW
- 24:51camps as substitutes and Quote. But not all films before the RE
- 24:56Education film program began were trash.
- 24:59Dorschel's diary included an entry from December 16th, 1944,
- 25:04which read. I left the Mark Twain film.
- 25:06I did not like that film. January 5th, 1945, read As you
- 25:11like it from Shakespeare as film with Elizabeth Bergner as
- 25:15Rosalind in Old English, and I read the American text.
- 25:19A very good film. January 21st, 1945 the entry
- 25:25read a film about settlers and their towns in America, the war
- 25:29with Indians and the Revolution. War of 1775 was good.
- 25:34His entry of February 10th 1945 also read film Folly Girls.
- 25:39Not much to it. On March 18th 1944 Dorschel
- 25:45recorded a particularly interesting incident.
- 25:48Quote the film with Marlene Dietrich has caused a fence.
- 25:52The film was showing buy war bonds.
- 25:55They had to break up the movie. The film was very good playing
- 25:59somewhere in America. End Quote.
- 26:01The cause of the argument by war Bonds either came from the movie
- 26:05itself or one of the short newsreels.
- 26:08Although Dorschel does not explain precisely why the
- 26:11disturbance occurred, some possibilities can be inferred if
- 26:15Marlene Dietrich herself were promoting war bonds, which would
- 26:18hardly be surprising considering the effort Hollywood put into
- 26:21the war cause. The fact that a German actress
- 26:24supported the United States instead of her home country
- 26:27might have offended some prisoners, but more than likely
- 26:31the prisoner saw the logo at the end of the film that said, buy
- 26:34War Bonds, which undoubtedly reminded them of their situation
- 26:38and of Hollywood's contribution to Germany's defeat.
- 26:41Film, especially the popular Hollywood genre, was a sensitive
- 26:45subject to the Special Projects Division of the Office of
- 26:48Provost Marshall General. Lieutenant Colonel Edward
- 26:51Davison, director of the division, had deep misgivings
- 26:55about the popular culture churned out by Hollywood.
- 26:58Davison wanted to focus more on the original reason for the RE
- 27:02education program, intellectual diversion, and films showing
- 27:06democracy in a positive light. Indeed, Davison believed in the
- 27:10power of words and ideas and thought the scourges of modern
- 27:15times could be controlled if intellectual leaders of
- 27:18altruistic vision would take charge.
- 27:21Instead of popular Hollywood movies, Davison wanted to show
- 27:24government films focusing on education and science.
- 27:28Hollywood movies without a political theme could be shown
- 27:31occasionally, but certainly not often.
- 27:34However, his ideas disregarded the prisoners love for popular
- 27:38Hollywood movies. Davison had undoubtedly taken
- 27:42such a stance after it became widely known how effectively
- 27:45many pro Nazi camp spokesman like Fort Robinson's humor had
- 27:50used the film program to their advantage.
- 27:53Before the RE education program, films were a standard part of
- 27:57camp recreation that had become a tool for those bent on showing
- 28:01America in a less than flattering light.
- 28:04Early on in the camps, films such as Lady Scarface, 7 Miles
- 28:09from Alcatraz, and Legion of the Lawless portrayed America as
- 28:13ripe with rampant gangsterism, corruption, and showed the
- 28:17debilitating effect of democracy.
- 28:20In response, The Idea Factory screened hundreds of films
- 28:24eliminating those depicting gangsters or prison life, those
- 28:29ridiculing an ally, those misrepresenting the American
- 28:32scene by stressing the plutocratic aspects.
- 28:36Hot Musicals, films containing depression and slum scenes,
- 28:40racial slurs or strife between capital and labor, blood and
- 28:45Thunder, cowboy pictures and films of unrealistic Hollywood
- 28:49scenes. It would appear that after such
- 28:52a thorough wedding, not many would survive the cut, but
- 28:57plenty of options remained to both entertain and educate the
- 29:01prisoners. One prominent German PW active
- 29:05in the film section of the Idea Factory was Doctor Wilhelm Dorr.
- 29:10Dorr wrote a paper on American movies and German society.
- 29:14He stated, quote, American box office hits might prove to be
- 29:18politically detrimental. End Quote.
- 29:21He recommended that no gangsters, no horse thieves, no
- 29:24playboys, no vamps, not too many millionaires, not too much
- 29:28society as it inevitably provokes feelings of envy and
- 29:32hatred in people who are forced to give all that up.
- 29:37Slapstick comedies and westerns also concerned Dorr as he
- 29:41suggested that for those who wanted to use a film as a means
- 29:45to escape reality, quote, let it be 1 of innocent minds like that
- 29:50of Grimm's and Anderson's tales. End Quote.
- 29:53The American movies most likely to fit Dora's prescription were
- 29:57primarily musicals and cartoons. Since both demonstrated
- 30:01technical skill and were innocent in content.
- 30:05Other workers in the Idea factory wanted to shelve the
- 30:09whole film program. Hans Werner Richter had a deep
- 30:13seated fear of mass culture as the opium of the masses and
- 30:17considered film the worst of all.
- 30:20Richter believed that quote movies left little room for
- 30:24reflection. They induced preordained
- 30:27mindless responses from audiences.
- 30:29End Quote. But more important, Richter and
- 30:32others thought film would lower the intellectual tone of the
- 30:36program. This point of view also failed
- 30:39to consider the ordinary average prisoner who did not meet the
- 30:43higher academic or intellectual standards of many of those in
- 30:47the Idea factory. Because of this failure to
- 30:50understand the mind of the average prisoner, the success of
- 30:54the program remained in doubt. At Fort Robinson, however,
- 30:59Captain Silverman managed to locate films that he thought the
- 31:02prisoners would find the most productive.
- 31:05According to a camp inspection report on February 27th, 1945,
- 31:10Silverman planned to acquire several films from, quote,
- 31:14American industrial organizations on technical
- 31:16subjects connected with those industries.
- 31:19End Quote Silverman also made it a point to acquire German
- 31:23language film from the YMCA about once a month, Dorschel
- 31:28writes. On February 16th 1944 quote the
- 31:32YMCA has loaned us a film in the German language, The Big Poet
- 31:37with Gustav Frelich, Carolina Hohn, Otto Wernicke.
- 31:42Another German film Dorschel mentions is Ich libe Dish with
- 31:46Marika Rourke which he called very nice.
- 31:49The German films added to Silverman's popularity with the
- 31:53men leading Major Helmut Knoll to comment Quote The prisoners
- 31:57of war seem particularly appreciative of such a picture
- 32:00and as a result considerable goodwill have been created
- 32:03between the prisoners and the Assistant Executive Officer by
- 32:06this one effort. End Quote.
- 32:09No one could dispute the popularity of movies among the
- 32:11prisoners once the film section of the Intellectual Diversion
- 32:15Program was implemented. In the late summer of 1945, Fort
- 32:19Robinson PW Camp Commander Colonel Arthur Blaine wrote a
- 32:23memo to the Commanding General of the 7th Service Command in
- 32:26Omaha stating that a sufficient number of standard 16mm motion
- 32:31picture projectors were now under the ownership of the PW
- 32:34Fund to carry out the provisions of the movie program.
- 32:38However, building space continued to be a problem.
- 32:40Quote, the only building at this camp available for showing of
- 32:43movies is a converted recreation hall which will only seat about
- 32:47220 persons. For this reason, it has been
- 32:50necessary to hold from 11:50 showings of each film and
- 32:55holding the film for approximately 5 days.
- 32:57And quote, as attending films was not mandatory, this
- 33:01indicates how useful film could be in reeducating the prisoners.
- 33:07Thompson also wrote of attending films, although he undoubtedly
- 33:10went to the Army Post theater since it was forbidden for
- 33:13Americans and the German prisoners to attend films
- 33:15together. Quote I have just returned from
- 33:18the theater, saw the picture of the clock with Judy Garland.
- 33:21Although it did not appeal to me as a picture with great deal of
- 33:25meat to it, yet there was enough simple good humanness about it
- 33:28to make it quite enjoyable. It is not often that such a
- 33:31picture appears in wartime. Much of the subject matter
- 33:35concerns itself with war drama and war heroism out worn long
- 33:39ago as far as a servicemen are concerned.
- 33:42End Quote. War dramas were a prevailing
- 33:46genre in America and many were included on the approved list by
- 33:50the Special Projects Division. War movies emphasize the
- 33:54difference between American and German ideology, often
- 33:57portraying American soldiers exhibiting patriotism and the
- 34:00Germans acting out blind loyalty.
- 34:03The Story of GI Joe, a film biography of war correspondent
- 34:07Ernie Pyle, demonstrated such principles, but even more
- 34:11compelling was The Sullivans, a 1944 film depicting the story of
- 34:16five self sacrificing brothers killed during the Battle of
- 34:20Guadalcanal. The film emphasized disobeying
- 34:23illogical or erroneous commands as four brothers refused to heed
- 34:27and abandoned ship order while attempting to rescue the 5th
- 34:31brother who was trapped by the ship's sick Bay.
- 34:34The rescue attempt did not succeed.
- 34:37The film summary ended with quote The boys died as they
- 34:40lived the five of them together. End Quote.
- 34:44A sentiment intended to emphasize the American ideology
- 34:47of noble self sacrifice and the ability to think independently
- 34:51of military orders when they would jeopardize A comrade.
- 34:55These were ideas the Special Projects Division considered key
- 34:59to reversing the effects of German military psychological
- 35:02brainwashing. Other war films on the approved
- 35:05list included Gung Ho, So Proudly We Hail, and 30 Seconds
- 35:10Over Tokyo. One war based series in
- 35:14particular found favor among PW camps.
- 35:17Frank Capra wrote Why We Fight while a major in the US Army
- 35:22Signal Corps. The Army Chief of Staff, General
- 35:25George C Marshall, commissioned the film to help explain the
- 35:28government's policy to America's armed troops.
- 35:31The film Attendance Mandatory was shown at Fort Robinson with
- 35:35remarkable results, according to Thompson.
- 35:39After the prisoners were told that Why We Fight had also been
- 35:43shown to American personnel, quote, they were astounded at
- 35:46the reality with which the Americans approached the
- 35:49question of war in Europe and quote.
- 35:52One of the Idea Factory screeners, Oscar Vintergerst,
- 35:56analyzed the series and came to a different conclusion.
- 36:00He said quote, the documentary film serves the prisoners as
- 36:04finger pointing to a future which will be hard but
- 36:07nevertheless worth living for and it will educate them on
- 36:11becoming valid members in the community of nations.
- 36:14End Quote. However, Venter Gerst doubted
- 36:17that pro Nazis would be affected by the Capra series.
- 36:21He argued that different cultures simply viewed film in
- 36:25different ways, whereas Americans might view marching
- 36:28stormtroopers with a mixture of fear and amusement because they
- 36:31simply did not understand blind loyalty to fanaticism.
- 36:35The scenes would excite loyal Germans.
- 36:38Since the Capra series was produced primarily for an
- 36:41audience of American soldiers, Winterguest did not believe it
- 36:45would change the German mindset. The series was intended to
- 36:49arouse fear of the Nazi demon rather than illuminate the
- 36:52inevitable hopefulness of the Nazi pipe dream.
- 36:56Although Thompson did not elaborate on his explanation of
- 37:00how the prisoners at Fort Robinson reacted to the scenes
- 37:03of Nazi parades, he did believe they had responded favorably to
- 37:07other aspects of the films. The Capra series continue to be
- 37:11one of the frequently shown productions, as did another
- 37:14popular film, The Defeat of Germany.
- 37:17During his visit to Fort Slocum in New York for the reeducation
- 37:21conference, Thompson had purchased the film at Macy's
- 37:24department store with money from the Canteen Fund.
- 37:28He showed it to the prisoners at Fort Robinson with remarkable
- 37:31effect. He says, Quote, I think the
- 37:33$18.50 is completely worth its expenditure.
- 37:37End Quote. Thompson also wanted to show two
- 37:40other films, The Battle of Britain and The Battle of
- 37:43Russia, that he hoped would elicit similar responses.
- 37:47The Special Projects Division had goals for the film program
- 37:51that were more intellectual and less emotional.
- 37:55A May 8th, 1945 Special Projects Division memo discussed the
- 37:59criteria a film shown to prisoners should meet.
- 38:02It stated Quote. Emphasis should be placed on
- 38:05subjects which give a true picture of United States history
- 38:08and traditions, the growth and development of American
- 38:11democratic institutions, the great industrial and natural
- 38:15powers and resources of this country, and American cultural
- 38:19achievements. End Quote.
- 38:21A catalog of more than 6000 films classified according to
- 38:26subject headings accompanied the memo.
- 38:29The Provost, Marshall General, had already drawn up a
- 38:32preliminary list, although none of the films have been
- 38:35officially screened for content. Among the more than 15 approved
- 38:39subjects were biography, American Statesman series,
- 38:43civics and patriotism, Economics and Business, labor and Labor
- 38:47Relations, general education, United States travel, U.S.
- 38:53government activities, religion and ethics, U.S. history and
- 38:57current events, and American literature.
- 39:01Unfortunately, such films did not enjoy the large following
- 39:05that the Special Projects Division hoped for.
- 39:08Dorschel wrote in his diary on August 30th, 1945.
- 39:12Quote a film, Life in America. Very good, but unfortunately not
- 39:17too many visiting films of that kind.
- 39:20End Quote. Dorschel also mentions 3
- 39:23excellent films, Courage, Mr. Penn and Prelude to War Films of
- 39:29the War Department. While Dorschel, a progressive
- 39:32anti Nazi and leader in the reeducation efforts, attended
- 39:36these films, it appeared that many prisoners did not.
- 39:40The Special Project Division's disregard for the average
- 39:43prisoners interest in popular movies probably made the film
- 39:47program less effective than they had hoped.
- 39:50Since attendance was voluntary. Dorschel's diary suggests that
- 39:54many prisoners were just not interested in intellectual
- 39:57movies. However, attendance at showings
- 40:00of one group of films was mandatory.
- 40:03The Nazi Atrocity films After the defeat of Germany and the
- 40:08subsequent unveiling of the RE education program to the public,
- 40:11the Special Projects Division decided the atrocity films could
- 40:15be used as a lesson in collective guilt as well as a
- 40:19tool of RE education. The prisoners at Fort Robinson
- 40:23were aware of the films before they arrived.
- 40:25Quote. As yet we have no news of
- 40:28atrocity films, but expect to have them in short while,
- 40:31Thompson wrote in June 1945. He continued by saying most of
- 40:35the internees await with anxiety their arrival and showing news
- 40:40that other camps have already had opportunity of seeing them
- 40:43disturbs them to no end for they fear they shall be left out of
- 40:47the program. The films arrived a month later
- 40:50on July 31st, 1945, Dorschel writes.
- 40:53Quote showing a film from Concentrancion Slaga.
- 40:57The film made a deep impression on the PO WS End Quote.
- 41:01But for some prisoners, the Nazi ideology ran deep and they
- 41:05refused to believe films showed what they claimed.
- 41:08Some were convinced the bodies of Jews killed by the Nazis were
- 41:12actually E Indians killed by the British.
- 41:15Understandably, many prisoners might have refused to believe
- 41:18the film simply because they could not digest the fact that
- 41:21their own country and people were responsible for such
- 41:25atrocities. The films received mixed
- 41:28reactions from other camps across the country.
- 41:30At a viewing of the films in Hollerin General Hospital in New
- 41:34York, quote, a few men held handkerchiefs over their eyes.
- 41:37One sat with a bowed head with his hands tightly covering his
- 41:41ears for most of the film. The majority, however, remained
- 41:44outwardly unmoved. End Quote.
- 41:47Some reacted with horror and shame, demonstrating their
- 41:51outrage by burning their uniforms as at Camp Butner in
- 41:54North Carolina. Others voluntarily raised funds
- 41:58to give to the survivors of the concentration camps.
- 42:01But the sheer horror of the films could not convince even
- 42:04some Americans, a guard at Camp Belle Glade in Florida told PW
- 42:09Horst. Finky Quote.
- 42:11Don't believe that baloney. End Quote The Office of the
- 42:14Provost, Marshall General took a survey of more than 20,000
- 42:18prisoners preparing for repatriation to ascertain what
- 42:21influence the films had. Only 36% of those surveyed
- 42:26believe the facts of the atrocity films to be true.
- 42:30The popularity of the offerings of the film section of the
- 42:33Intellectual Diversion Program far surpassed any other aspect
- 42:37of the reeducation effort in PW camps throughout the country.
- 42:41Thompson called it a quote worthy attempt to bring the
- 42:45prisoner of war a type of movie program which would show America
- 42:48in its true light on one hand, and which would give him a
- 42:52rounded program of entertainment and experience on the other End
- 42:55Quote. But Thompson also believed it
- 42:58was quote too little, too late. He cited several deficiencies in
- 43:02the program, including the difficulty in showing films in
- 43:05branch camps as well as in the main camps.
- 43:08Branch camp showings were infrequent, not only because of
- 43:11their distance from the main camp, but also in the interest
- 43:15and attention they received for the base camps.
- 43:17And these were the camps. These were the men who most
- 43:20deserved and needed such relaxation, entertainment, and
- 43:23education. The language barrier posed
- 43:27another problem. Thompson acknowledged that the
- 43:29average prisoner had a good command of simple, everyday
- 43:32English, but conversational language was often beyond them,
- 43:37making it difficult to follow. Movies quote True action often
- 43:41spoke the words as loudly as the characters, but this was the
- 43:45exception rather than the rule. Thereby it was discovered that
- 43:48much of the meat of the story went far over their heads and
- 43:53was missed, with the result that the moral value of the picture
- 43:56was lost. End Quote.
- 43:59Other problems plaguing the film program included the lack of
- 44:02funds to buy sufficient film projectors.
- 44:05The machines often broke down, and replacement parts were hard
- 44:09to come by. In regions with sweltering
- 44:12summers, it was difficult for the prisoners to sit through a
- 44:14movie in the heat. At Fort Robinson, summers were
- 44:18hot and dry. Thompson wrote of prisoners who
- 44:21would often sit through a movie in swimming trunks, and often
- 44:24less than that when his two hours of entertainment were
- 44:28through. He often wondered whether such
- 44:30punishment was worth the price he paid, both in canteen checks
- 44:33and in heat fatigue. The fragility of the film itself
- 44:38was also a cause for concern. After multiple showings, German
- 44:42language films loaned by the YMCA often had become badly
- 44:45damaged, and those on the West Coast who received the films
- 44:49last were usually very disappointed in the films
- 44:52physical quality. While Thompson's experience
- 44:55derives mostly from Fort Robinson, he also participated
- 44:58in the School for Democracy at Fort Eustis and was able to
- 45:02gather information from other assistant executive officers and
- 45:05prisoners from camps from around the United States.
- 45:09Whether or not the film program stimulated democratic thinking
- 45:12among German prisoners is hard to calculate.
- 45:16Other than the survey on the atrocity films, no studies of
- 45:19the film program itself were ever undertaken.
- 45:22Yet, according to the Office of the Provost Marshall General,
- 45:26between June 15th, 1945 and January 31st, 1946, a total of
- 45:318,243,035 admissions were recorded.
- 45:36On average, every prisoner saw 30 feature films.
- 45:41The program also generated money for the Central Prisoner of War
- 45:44Fund, bringing in a total of more than $1.2 million.
- 45:48It was obvious the film program was widely popular with the
- 45:52prisoners. If some of those figures were
- 45:55more representative of the feature film programs turned out
- 45:58by Hollywood than the intellectual movies.
- 46:01The Provost Marshall General's Office did not distinguish
- 46:04between the two. Wolfgang Dorschel and Alfred
- 46:07Thompson work closely together on the Intellectual Diversion
- 46:10Program and their friendship carried on well after World War
- 46:142. The two attended APW reunion at
- 46:17Fort Robinson in 1987. Both provided the Fort with
- 46:22invaluable materials, including lesson plans from the
- 46:25Intellectual Diversion Program and personal mementos from other
- 46:29former PWS held at Fort Robinson.
- 46:33Dorschel made the trip to Fort Robinson a total of three times,
- 46:37but the first was the most memorable.
- 46:39Quote Friday. When I came back for the first
- 46:42time in 42 years, I looked up at the Buttes.
- 46:46My first impression was it was like being home again and forth.
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