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Congressman Warren Davidson joins Brian Thomas this morning · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Fifty five Carorise de Talk Station. Ryan Thomas wishing everyone
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  Speaker 1: a very happy Friday, even thanking everybody who made a
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  Speaker 1: listener lunch yesterday and always happy to welcome to the
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  Speaker 1: fifty five Karrossay Morning Show. It's that day the return
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  Speaker 1: of Congressman Orren Davidson. Congressman Davidson, welcome back, my friend,
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on the program again.
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  Speaker 2: Always a joy to talk with you. Brian, thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Well, at least you had three more and your company. Yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: you along with Brian Fitzpatrick, Thomas Massey, and Tom Barrett
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  Speaker 1: of Michigan voted to pass this I guess measure to
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  Speaker 1: limit Donald Trump's Ukraine War. The vote total was two
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  Speaker 1: fifteen to two to eight. I ran War Powers Resolution.
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  Speaker 1: What will this do? I mean, assuming the unlikely that
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  Speaker 1: it goes and passes in the Senate and it survives
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  Speaker 1: a Donald Trump veto, which I think may be inevitable.
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  Speaker 1: But what was this design to do?
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  Speaker 2: Congressman Davidson, Well, it was really designed to support and
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  Speaker 2: defend the Constitution. I mean, so if you look at
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  Speaker 2: the War Powers Act, it was passed in nineteen seventy three,
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  Speaker 2: Congress had sort of just passively cut the checks for
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  Speaker 2: the Vietnam War. They couldn't get control of the floor
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  Speaker 2: of the House to really schedule a vote. The committee's
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  Speaker 2: of jurisdiction tend to be populated by people that are
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  Speaker 2: for all the wars and all the places. That's been
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  Speaker 2: true really in the post World War two era. So
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  Speaker 2: the Korean War went on all three years of the
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  Speaker 2: Korean War. We don't call it the police Korean police action.
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  Speaker 2: We call it the Korean War because it was a war.
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  Speaker 2: But Congress would never vote to authorize it. The Vietnam
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  Speaker 2: War had gone on for a decade in nineteen seventy three,
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  Speaker 2: and so they passed this War Powers Act, which gives
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  Speaker 2: you a privileged vote for Congress to be able to
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  Speaker 2: go on record to say, hey, this is unauthorized, and
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  Speaker 2: it puts some pressure abit public relations pr or whatever
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  Speaker 2: on the president to seek authorization for the war. And
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  Speaker 2: that's what the that's what the Constitution says. Is not
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  Speaker 2: so much whether you should do this war or that war.
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  Speaker 2: The Constitution says, Congress is supposed to vote to authorize it.
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  Speaker 2: And I you have not only a constitutional duty, but
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  Speaker 2: a moral obligation to the people that you asked to
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  Speaker 2: wage your wars, to define the mission, to then authorize
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  Speaker 2: that mission, and then accomplish the mission. And so those
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  Speaker 2: kinds of things happen't happen, and then when you fail
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  Speaker 2: to do that, that's how you wind up with these
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  Speaker 2: aimless and endless wars.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and defining the mission seems to be one of
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  Speaker 1: the more critical elements we need right now. And I'm
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  Speaker 1: with you on your perception of all this because the
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  Speaker 1: Constitution says what it says, you need the input of
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  Speaker 1: Congress in terms in dealing with matters of war. And sorry,
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  Speaker 1: let me interject, I had to crack up. You said,
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  Speaker 1: we don't call it the Korean police accents the Korean War.
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  Speaker 1: It's one of those Orwellian things. It's like, for example,
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  Speaker 1: in our current spat with the Iranians, we have a
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  Speaker 1: ceasefire on paper, and people keep saying it's a ceasefire,
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  Speaker 1: and yet both sides keep shooting each other. Just don't
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  Speaker 1: ignore your lying eyes, right, Congressman Davidson.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean it embarrassing when the war in Iran,
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  Speaker 2: first I guess, renewed really active hostilities on February twenty eighth,
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  Speaker 2: and people were calling it a war and then catching
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  Speaker 2: themselves well, I mean, you know, conflict, you know, kinetic engagement,
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  Speaker 2: you know, whatever, every kind of thing to avoid saying war.
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  Speaker 2: It's you know, it's like I don't know what a
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  Speaker 2: woman is. Well, of course we know what a woman is,
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  Speaker 2: and of course we know what a war is. And
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  Speaker 2: you know it should be self evident what a ceasefire is.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, President Trump yesterday in a fitting response,
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  Speaker 2: people said, what do you mean by ceasefire? And he goes, well,
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  Speaker 2: in that region, maybe it means you go after each
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  Speaker 2: other a little less intensely. And so you know, as
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  Speaker 2: you look in the Middle East, to you, well it
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  Speaker 2: is progress. And I will say the blockade part seems
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  Speaker 2: to be working. I you know, had the privilege of
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  Speaker 2: questioning Secretary Rubio yesterday and I think, look, they've done
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  Speaker 2: so many things. Well, one of the primary focuses was
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  Speaker 2: you didn't need to change the law to secure the boarder,
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  Speaker 2: border security and national security. This mass migration nonsense, that's
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  Speaker 2: flooding our country with illegals. President trumpet shut off. This
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  Speaker 2: administration has been very effective, and the national security strategy
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  Speaker 2: focuses on that that national security begins at our own border,
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  Speaker 2: it spreads through our hemisphere and then goes out around
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  Speaker 2: the world and looks at our own interests. I talked
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  Speaker 2: about other authorizations for force, like, you know, we're still
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  Speaker 2: not really dealing with the Uranian proxies correctly. We should authorize,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the activity we should actually authorize. What the
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  Speaker 2: administration has done is treating the drug cartels as enemies
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  Speaker 2: of our country, and that migration linkage is exploiting people,
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  Speaker 2: killing Americans and lots of other people. But then when
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  Speaker 2: it comes to war, you know that basically every administration says, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we basically we can do whatever we want, and that's
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  Speaker 2: not what the Constitution says. There are a lot of
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  Speaker 2: people that think it would be better if the constitution
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  Speaker 2: did say that. Then find them. I'm open to having
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  Speaker 2: a debate about a constitutional amendment to that. But there
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  Speaker 2: are no free wars. And that was a big part
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  Speaker 2: of the the congressional or the constitutional debate when the
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  Speaker 2: founding fathers were drafting the constitution. That's where they created
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  Speaker 2: the tension between Article one and the legislature and Article
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  Speaker 2: two and the presidency, and basically gave the president the
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  Speaker 2: power to wage the war. But Congress the duty to
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  Speaker 2: declare the war.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I guess I'd have to ask, even in the
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  Speaker 1: absence of war powers resolution or obviously the declaration of
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  Speaker 1: war seems to be even off the table, but you
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  Speaker 1: retain the power of the purse. Can you not deny
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  Speaker 1: funds to continue the ongoing efforts against the Iranians? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: is that not another independent mechanism? I know that's a
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  Speaker 1: tall ask given the dysfunction in Congress these days, Congressman Davidson,
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  Speaker 1: But isn't that certainly possible?
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  Speaker 2: Well, it is possible. But the problem is this is,
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  Speaker 2: once you've got troops in harm's way, how do you
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  Speaker 2: not fund them? So there's really the dilemma is, well,
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  Speaker 2: how do you not give them the resources to do things?
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  Speaker 2: And the way you really do the resources is, you know,
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  Speaker 2: when the country is united. But look, it took three
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  Speaker 2: days after nine to eleven for Congress to vote to
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  Speaker 2: authorize the war. We knew we should go to war, right,
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  Speaker 2: But then what failed after that? Well, they didn't define
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  Speaker 2: the mission. That's where George W. Bush, if you know,
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  Speaker 2: was out on a carrier waving a flags, a big
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  Speaker 2: banner mission accomplished. Everyone knew that wasn't true, except apparently
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  Speaker 2: George Bush. I think he knew too, right, But it
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  Speaker 2: was all pr and designed to build the support for
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  Speaker 2: going into Iraq. Well, how did that turn out? How
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  Speaker 2: did Afghanistan turnout? Congress has consistently failed in its obligation
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  Speaker 2: to A define the mission and b, you know, tie
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  Speaker 2: the money to results and measure and hold people accountable
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  Speaker 2: for actually accomplishing the mission instead of just waging the
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  Speaker 2: war actually winning the war.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and I'm glad you mentioned in Afghanistan because it's
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  Speaker 1: great illustration for those who thinks since because we have
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  Speaker 1: the biggest, baddest military in the world, and there's no
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  Speaker 1: denying that that Afghanistans, these crazy guys with Ak forty
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  Speaker 1: sevens in the mountains, were able to fend off for
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  Speaker 1: over a long period of time. I can't remember, was
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  Speaker 1: it a decade with the Russian invasion and then following
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  Speaker 1: that we invaded Afghanistan and ultimately really had nothing to
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  Speaker 1: show for it when when we pulled out immediately. It
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  Speaker 1: just shows the tenacity of a very well obviously fundamentalist
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  Speaker 1: religious group and how much and how long they are
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  Speaker 1: willing to just wage this guerrilla warfare against major military powers.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, just because you have a big military does
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  Speaker 1: not ensure your victory under those circumstances.
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  Speaker 2: No, I mean their religion basically, the more they suffer,
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  Speaker 2: the more it validates, you know, the righteousness of their cause.
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  Speaker 2: So they just keep digging in and digging in, and
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  Speaker 2: you know they want more gi hot and everything. These
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  Speaker 2: people are crazy. Their right to be viewed as enemies
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  Speaker 2: of our country. I mean, our military is waging a
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  Speaker 2: just you know, it's just to take out Ayatolamania, and
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  Speaker 2: that was a just action. It was also you know,
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  Speaker 2: not unprecedented to do something like that without a congressional authorization,
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  Speaker 2: but it is unconstitutional still, and you know that it's
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  Speaker 2: fair if if the public really wants a debate on
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  Speaker 2: constitutional amendment, and whoever gets elected president gets this. You
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  Speaker 2: can't forget student debt, but you can go to World
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  Speaker 2: War three if you want to, you know, you know,
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  Speaker 2: all those kinds of things. It's like, well, look, I
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  Speaker 2: want the president to have the flexibility to respond in
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  Speaker 2: a time of crisis. That's a duty defined in the constitution.
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  Speaker 2: You should be able to say, repel an invasion and
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  Speaker 2: take a decisive, swift action. But you know, that's for
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  Speaker 2: like an exigent circumstance where you don't have the ability
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  Speaker 2: to convene Congress. And you know, if you look at it,
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  Speaker 2: the country isn't truly united behind this war, and even
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  Speaker 2: Republicans aren't united behind this war. Even some of the
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  Speaker 2: most enthusiastic people in the initial days after you know,
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  Speaker 2: early March show when this began, our starting to go
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  Speaker 2: what are we doing here? And why are we doing it?
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  Speaker 2: And you know, what is the what does victory look
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  Speaker 2: like here? And those are the kinds of questions that
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  Speaker 2: you should ask. And that's why you should have the
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  Speaker 2: debate on the floor of Congress and vote not just
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  Speaker 2: for funding but for the actual this is the mission,
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  Speaker 2: go accomplish it.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, And the Iranians have been, you know, blowing stuff
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  Speaker 1: up and killing American servicemen and funding terrorist proxies that
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  Speaker 1: in turn kill people who we are allies with or
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  Speaker 1: kill our troop. This has going on for well since
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  Speaker 1: nineteen seventy nine. The urgency, the eminent threat or the
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  Speaker 1: eminent concern that I suppose served as a predicate to
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  Speaker 1: starting a war with Iran, the operation of big theory.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's a that's something we're hiding behind now,
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  Speaker 1: or the administration's hiding behind because I think the urgency
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  Speaker 1: was because they knew that thirty five or so, the
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  Speaker 1: head leaders of the Iranian religious fundamentalist group that runs
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  Speaker 1: the country, we're in one spot at one time, and
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  Speaker 1: we needed to hurry up and blow them all up.
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  Speaker 1: Whether we're in one spot and thinking it was going
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  Speaker 1: to be more like Venezuela with the decapitation of Maduro
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  Speaker 1: and the inevitable quick fall of that regime.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean then look even within the administration to
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  Speaker 2: pull off the successful decapitation strike, I mean, you know, operationally,
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  Speaker 2: I mean that was brilliant, well executed mission. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: as an army guy, I look at it and go, well,
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  Speaker 2: that was you know, well executed or military is done
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  Speaker 2: amazing things in combat. But even opset wise, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: they kept that super tight, even within the Pentagon, on
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  Speaker 2: whether that was even going to be a mission. And
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  Speaker 2: that's the only way you could accomplish a mission like that,
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  Speaker 2: And so that's a fair question to say, well, can
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  Speaker 2: you do these kinds of things in a modern era
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  Speaker 2: and have a vote in Congress, And you know the
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  Speaker 2: right sequence would have been to authorize the combat before
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  Speaker 2: it took place. But you've had ninety days now, and
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  Speaker 2: that's not what the War Powers Acts say is by
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  Speaker 2: the way, But some people claimed that early on, like,
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  Speaker 2: well the war powers access Presidenttive whatever he wants for
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  Speaker 2: ninety days. Well he's basically done what he wants for
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  Speaker 2: ninety ays. But one of the things that he doesn't
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  Speaker 2: want to do is come get congressional authorization. And I
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  Speaker 2: just asked Secretary Review about that yesterday and they basically said, look,
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  Speaker 2: we think we have all the authority we need. We do.
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  Speaker 1: And this is because I think since World War Two,
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  Speaker 1: Congressman Davidson, we've just sort of been ignoring the whole
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  Speaker 1: legal framework upon which war's supposed to be waged. Convenient
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  Speaker 1: to just let it slide by the wayside, and all
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  Speaker 1: the other guys did it. Ergo, I'm allowed to do it.
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  Speaker 1: Let's bring Congressman Warren Davidson back a few more points
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  Speaker 1: on that, but some other topics as well, including some
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  Speaker 1: maybe another reconciliation bill. We'll find out with Congressman Warren Davidson.
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  Speaker 1: The talk station seven twenty here fifty five Kerr see
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  Speaker 1: the talk station Brian Thomas talking with Congressman Warren Davidson.
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  Speaker 1: Sticking with the subject of the war with the Iranians,
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump just said, I guess yesterday he will not
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  Speaker 1: resume what has been described as all out war unless
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  Speaker 1: Iran kills US troops. Now, that sounds like a line
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  Speaker 1: in the sand, but we've been down this road quite
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  Speaker 1: a few times. If we don't, if they don't do this,
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  Speaker 1: if they don't step up and do that, then I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to start blowing them off the map and off
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  Speaker 1: the face of the earth. This wash rent, repeat cycle.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what all out means. Does that mean
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  Speaker 1: boots on the ground. Are we actually going to invade
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  Speaker 1: and this raises obviously much bigger problems, or are we
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  Speaker 1: just going to ultimately pull the plug on this because
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  Speaker 1: the Iranians have a stranglehold on the Straight of Horror
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  Speaker 1: Moves and obviously our American military is incapable of ferrying
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  Speaker 1: enough boats to get regular order going on in this strait.
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  Speaker 1: Seems like we've got kind of a stalemate here with
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  Speaker 1: their ports being closed and the Straight of Horror Moves
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  Speaker 1: being closed. Your thoughts and comments, Congressman Davidson, Yeah, I mean.
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  Speaker 2: I think you want to be careful not to get
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  Speaker 2: baited into a conflict. You don't really want to let
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  Speaker 2: your enemy pick the time in or or a place
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  Speaker 2: of any engagement. You want to dictate that in combat.
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  Speaker 2: And that's why I think the blockade is effective. The
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  Speaker 2: navy blockad, I mean, our navy's big enough and powerful
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  Speaker 2: enough to impose its will on a Ran. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: way we've destroyed their navy and be yeah, okay, they've
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  Speaker 2: got drones and they've got stuff that you know, for
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  Speaker 2: a commercial vessel to drive through a straight you know,
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  Speaker 2: they risk the whole cargo, they risk the crew. There's
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  Speaker 2: no way the insurance is going to cover that. And
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  Speaker 2: so people don't want to risk losing a tanker load
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  Speaker 2: worth of oil and the liability for the lives that
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  Speaker 2: could be lost. So the ships stay put and they
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  Speaker 2: don't go through. But nevertheless, what ELSO doesn't go through
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  Speaker 2: is there's no commerce going on in Iran right now.
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  Speaker 2: So this is crippling Iran. I mean, this is you know,
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  Speaker 2: when maximum pressure are forced her into the table in
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  Speaker 2: the first Trump administration. This is nothing on the kind
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  Speaker 2: of level of the blockade. So look, that is a
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  Speaker 2: military operation. I mean, I think it's an effective one.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's if we have the strategic patience to
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  Speaker 2: continue doing that. I think it can be can be effective.
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  Speaker 2: If you pump oil every day, you eventually have to
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  Speaker 2: ship oil sometime. And I hope it doesn't turn into
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  Speaker 2: an environmental disaster, but it is putting pressure on RAND.
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  Speaker 2: They need resources in their economy. You know, they have
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  Speaker 2: back door ways to get some things across land, but
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  Speaker 2: they're fundamentally being crippled with this blockade. Well, and I.
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  Speaker 1: Suppose the future may be different. A lot of hard
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  Speaker 1: lessons are being learned. And I saw this article by
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  Speaker 1: Georgie Kantschev headlined the Horror Moves squeeze is redrawing the
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  Speaker 1: oil map for good. Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates
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  Speaker 1: and Iraq are pouring money into pipelines, rail and storage
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  Speaker 1: to keep the oil flowing even when the strait isn't
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  Speaker 1: they see the future. They see the present, and the
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  Speaker 1: future is let's pipe it out and never have to
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  Speaker 1: rely on the straight of horror moves again. So that
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  Speaker 1: could be a real positive thing down the road, although
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  Speaker 1: billions of dollars will have to be spent and will
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  Speaker 1: take years to accomplish it. They've already ramped up pipeline
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  Speaker 1: shipping of oil in the area wherever they possibly can,
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  Speaker 1: along with rail.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, so look at you'll have a more
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  Speaker 2: resilient supply chain. In the meantime. The US is like,
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  Speaker 2: I hear you guys need oil. We got oil outside
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  Speaker 2: is Look, you know, we are paying price higher prices
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  Speaker 2: at the pump in the United States. I think we're
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  Speaker 2: feeling the pain less than a lot of places around
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  Speaker 2: the world. That doesn't mean we don't feel the pain,
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  Speaker 2: but I mean, I want to be clear. Look that
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  Speaker 2: the price at the pump is the tip of the
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  Speaker 2: iceberg in terms of the cost of war. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: I mean the first Sunday after we voted on this
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  Speaker 2: in March, I got a text from a you know,
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  Speaker 2: a friend, former Ranger guy, but I didn't serve with him,
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  Speaker 2: but he served much younger than me in Afghanistan and Iraq,
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  Speaker 2: and he's like, hey, I lost another bat boy, guy
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  Speaker 2: from Ranger battalion to suicide. And you look at the
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  Speaker 2: cost of war. This guy lost ten friends in the
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  Speaker 2: wake of war. And if you look at you know,
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  Speaker 2: another metric for the cost of war, not just twenty
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  Speaker 2: plus a veteran suicide to day on average. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: in two thousand and five, twenty years ago, we were
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  Speaker 2: spending about sixty billion dollars a year on the VA
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  Speaker 2: and we have a moral obligation to get for those
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  Speaker 2: people who've served our country, and we have and you
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  Speaker 2: know last year we spent over four hundred billion dollars
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  Speaker 2: and we still have twenty plus suicides. So like, the
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  Speaker 2: cost of war is enduring and ongoing for the people
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  Speaker 2: that you asked to wage it. And I think that's
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  Speaker 2: why the least you could do is expect Congress.
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  Speaker 1: To vote the least. Congressman Davidson, can you stick around
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  Speaker 1: for one more segment? Got a few questions about the
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  Speaker 1: reconciliation bill that's being proposed over in the Senate. Want
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  Speaker 1: to see where you are on that or not. If
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  Speaker 1: you don't have enough time, that's great, I understand completely.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, heavy to talk. Plenty going on there.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, hold on one more with Congressman Davidson. It's
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  Speaker 1: seven twenty five right now, fifty five CARES seven thirty
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  Speaker 1: eight to fifty five care CD Talk Stationan Brian Thomas
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  Speaker 1: with Congressman Warren Davidson, pivoting over. I guess the Senate
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  Speaker 1: has now got a reconciliation package number two. We got
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  Speaker 1: one through earlier, and of course you have to use
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  Speaker 1: reconciliation because of the Senate filibuster. Democrats are not going
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: to give in and do anything to help benefit the
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  Speaker 1: American people or most notably reasoned to go because of
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump. But this one regarding immigration enforcement, notably the
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: US Immigrations and Customs enforcement and Customs and Border Protection
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  Speaker 1: funding which has never yet been funded. That's still that
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  Speaker 1: thing that was the reason for the shutdown. But part
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  Speaker 1: of the stumbling block and not moving this forward sooner
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  Speaker 1: apparently is the White House ballroom funding and the Anti
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  Speaker 1: weaponization fund, which is rather controversial. I thought Trump had
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  Speaker 1: backed off on the ladder, but the funding for the
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  Speaker 1: for the ballroom at over a billion dollars, seemed to
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  Speaker 1: rub people the wrong way. Anyway, with that out of
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  Speaker 1: that package, is this going to move forward? And what
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  Speaker 1: do you think? And will it pass?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? I was just at at dinner with some conservative
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  Speaker 2: senators last night. They feel like they've got a path
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  Speaker 2: through the Senate finally. I mean, it's just frustrating sitting
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  Speaker 2: and looking at the Senate. So you know, people back
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  Speaker 2: home are you know, always like what's up with Thun,
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: What's up with the Senate? How are they not taking
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  Speaker 2: action on Save America and gazillion other things? And you know, hey,
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  Speaker 2: I get a ring side seat. It's frustrating. We've spent
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  Speaker 2: hours and hours an hour or is passing things in
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  Speaker 2: the House only to go watch them ignore it and
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  Speaker 2: do nothing in the Senate and then trip up over
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  Speaker 2: our own stuff. Like the ballroom goes back to Obama.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there's a whole lot of other things that
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  Speaker 2: are going on besides, you know, under the floor of
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  Speaker 2: the ballroom, there's going to be other stuff out of
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  Speaker 2: that building. This is an idea that's a long time standing,
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  Speaker 2: and somehow they've turned it into Trump's vanity project. It's like, no,
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  Speaker 2: it's a common sense thing to have there. You do
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  Speaker 2: need to appropriate some money and authorize some of the
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  Speaker 2: things that you need to do there. This isn't the
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  Speaker 2: perfect bill to do it, but you know, as long
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: as Trump's president, Democrats are going to be opposed to
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: doing those things. But the real mistake here is look
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  Speaker 2: last December or last October, unfortunately, the Senate folded and
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: let Senate Democrats strip out the Homeland security funding package,
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  Speaker 2: let them strip out the funding for ice and Bord patrol.
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  Speaker 2: So we've been depleting the one hundred plus billion dollars
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  Speaker 2: that we've put to you plus up the effort at
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: ice and Bord patrol. We've been burning through that cash
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: to continue operating ice and border patrol. So you know
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  Speaker 2: that's not an unlimited amount of money. We're supposed to
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: have ongoing appropriations for ice in border p ttrol. So
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  Speaker 2: we need the Sendate to take action. And now it's
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: going to be as skinny as you can make it.
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  Speaker 2: But they are finally supposed to put on it today.
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  Speaker 2: So even if they drag it into the end of
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  Speaker 2: the week, they'll get it done this week, I believe.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's good to hear that some and maybe you
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  Speaker 1: don't get everything you want, but I'll take a step
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  Speaker 1: in the right direction along those lines. But save America
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  Speaker 1: that is, as I understand it, since it's not budget related,
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  Speaker 1: you couldn't put that into a budget reconciliation in order
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  Speaker 1: to dodge the filibusters.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah that's right. Yeah, this is this And I don't
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  Speaker 2: even think they're going to attempt to do it, but yeah,
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  Speaker 2: would it's a policy thing. So look, reconciliation is this
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  Speaker 2: magic word that breaks the sixty vote spell on the
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  Speaker 2: Senate so that you can just get us, you can
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  Speaker 2: answer the actual question, you can call it straight with
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: the Senate, and they got go on record and a
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: simple majority passes things in the Senate. The closure rule,
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: the sixty vote rules what they use to prevent an
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  Speaker 2: actual vote on the underlying topic. And yet because it's
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: policy related, the rules for budget reconciliation don't allow policy.
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  Speaker 2: That's known as the bird rule, so it would be
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  Speaker 2: stripped out.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Well, and you know what, always, I guess I'm frustrated
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: by this when you see the protesters at these ice facilities,
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: obviously well funded by massive billionaire infusions of cash giving
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: them all the supplies and resources they need. You got
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: people that are twenty four hours a day, seven days
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: a week, for multiple days, the same people protesting something
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: is amiss there, but that the Democrats are wed to
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: the whole idea that they do not want to do
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: anything about. And it would rather have criminal illegal immigrants
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: released out on the streets, people who have committed horrific crimes,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: convicted in many cases of horrific crimes like child rape
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: that they want them released. I don't understand how any ration,
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  Speaker 1: sane human being could could advocate for that with a
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  Speaker 1: straight face. And I'd like to hope and pray that
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: the vast majority of the American population agrees with me
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: on that topic and thinks the Democrats are crazy. What
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: do you hear on the hill there when you're talking
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: with Democrats about that reality?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean here, it's a total disconnect. Like when
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: I talk we poll in our district, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's been a little while since we went out and
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: did any kind of polling. But a lot of the
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: things that they're not really even partisan issues. I mean,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: you know, illegal immigrations, I legal immigration. Now you know,
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: my opponent thinks there's no such thing as illegal people
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: and they should be able to vote in elections, you know,
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: even if you're here illegally of course, so you know
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: there are radicals out there, but that's not a consensus
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: position of even Democrats in Southwest Ohio. But when you
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: come to Congress, they vote that way, and it's the
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: same like it's bipartisan to deal with scams. I mean,
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: this Medicaid fraud stuff that's going on, that's not a
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: partisan issue in Ohio to go after that, punish it
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: and possible people. And in Congress, look, if you want
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: to go after people that are scamming seniors, there's no
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: partisanship there. Democrats are happy to work with me on
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: that issue in any way. But when the scam involves
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: ripping off the federal government to give money even to
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: illegals that they didn't wire out or leave with to
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: go back to Somaya or Bhutan or wherever else, somehow
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: it becomes partisan. I mean, I think this stuff is crazy.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Well, and they try to accuse people of racism when
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: people are merely going after the fraud. Did another frustrating
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: thing for me that in Minnesota anyway, that was the argument, well,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: we didn't really go after fraud because it was racist
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: to do so. And I'm thinking, well, no, it isn't
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: that one segment of the Somali population having to be fraudsters.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: I don't care where they came from. They could come from,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: you know, Iowa. If they're criminals ripping the American taxpayers off,
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: those are the people we are going after. It has
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: nothing to do with the fact that they originated from
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Somalia here legally or illegally, they are criminals. That's why
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: we're going after him. And didn't everyone be going after
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: people who are ripping off every single American taxpayer of
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: any political stripe.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that was the whole point of Doze
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: in the first place. And part of this that's coming
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: out is because Doge went in and dug into the
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: files and said, look, DOGE being the US Digital Service
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: legally the brand name when the Musk came in was
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: a Department of Government Efficiency DOGE. And they pulled this
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: data out. And what really happened as investigative journalists went
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: out and started going, well, gee, why would we have
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: ninety four LLCs at the same address?
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: What is this about?
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: And they started going, well, where's our money going? Well,
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: it's going to this building right here, and there's ninety
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: four LLCs related who's controlling this? And they started asking
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: questions that mainstream journalists weren't that. You know, in some cases,
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: when I talked to the auditor, keyth Faber, he's highlighted, Look,
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: they're complying with this level of the law, but there's
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: stuff going on. He's highlighted, you know, tens of millions,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: if not billion plus dollars of fraud. As the auditor.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: I think he's going to do a great job getting
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: after this with prosecutions as Attorney General. But I think
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: that's where the public's rightly frustrated and say, how is
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: it that we have these scams going on? Yeah, I
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: mean President Trump's getting scrutiny because he's putting pressure on Treasury.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: We get the Bank Secrecy Act that spies on everyone
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: on your bank accounts and your money. But somehow this
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: thing that's supposed to catch the people that are laundering
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: money for the drug cartels and stop North Korea from
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: getting weapons that we don't approve of. That's why they
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: spy on you in your bank accounts officially, but you
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: can't filter out the people that aren't even legally in
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: the country. And now they got bank accounts, I mean,
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: and medicaid payments going to them. And this is crazy
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: stuff that's going on, and thankfully we're exposing.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: It, thankfully, and I hope that continues to be a
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: big prominent issue as we move into November, because I again,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: to me, this bears absolutely no political stripe. Were being
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: being ripped off and that has to stop. I hope
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: that gets some headway from me. Lease of the Republicans
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: are embracing the concept of going after it like you.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Congressman Warren Davidson. Thank you for your time today and
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: thank you for your service to our country in the
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: American military and your ongoing services. Congressman, I appreciate your
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: willingness to come on the program and share your thoughts
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: and comments about these important issues with my listeners and me,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: and I really can't wait to get you back on again, sir.
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  Speaker 2: That's always an honor. God bless you and all your listeners.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Brian and you, sir, thanks again, seven thirty eight right
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