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209: Raccoons Sound Off on TLC's Awful Production, Christine & David Fatigue and Meri the Bully · Reality TV Cringe

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  Speaker 3: All right?
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  Speaker 2: First one we have is from Maya Maya, Maya, Hi, Maya.
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  Speaker 4: Hello, Amazing Raccoon. This is Maya Raccoon from Portland, Oregon.
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  Speaker 4: I want to talk about out this production company and
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  Speaker 4: why they know what we want to see, but they
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  Speaker 4: will not show it to us. Two examples being when
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  Speaker 4: his when Cody's children are crying about his neglecting abandonment
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  Speaker 4: on National TV. We never get to see his reaction.
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  Speaker 4: You know, he's seen the footage, but he somehow doesn't
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  Speaker 4: have to sit there and talk about it. We'll get
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  Speaker 4: whole segments about picking out engagement rings and everyone's preferences,
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  Speaker 4: but we can't see Cody reacting to the super critical
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  Speaker 4: storyline that is his abandonment of the family and these children.
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  Speaker 4: We didn't get it last season with Gabriel or Garrison
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  Speaker 4: in the tell all we aren't getting any couch interviews
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  Speaker 4: of him reacting to Isabel. Why. I found out recently
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  Speaker 4: they're bonus scenes that are only available on like Felo
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  Speaker 4: or some ridiculous platform like that where we've had Janelle
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  Speaker 4: and Mary's converse station about the finances went further and
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  Speaker 4: we got to hear some answers uh on questions that
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  Speaker 4: we had. Why aren't they showing us this? I don't understand.
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  Speaker 4: Thanks for the event.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, day, I'm a dumpster everyone. Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 1: Didn't somebody leave a comment on I think our recap
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  Speaker 1: last week saying that they watch in the UK and
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  Speaker 1: in the UK they had extra scenes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Why are we getting robbed?
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  Speaker 1: What we're in the USA where this is filmed.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even know why there's bonus footage anyway, and
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  Speaker 2: why are you putting the bonus footage being like all
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  Speaker 2: of the good stuff for sure, Like why are we
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  Speaker 2: watching all of this filler with Christina and David?
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god? Or Mary backing that thing and having
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  Speaker 1: her laugh for five minutes straight or however long.
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  Speaker 2: It was so crazy.
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  Speaker 1: It's an eternity of time and there's so many other
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  Speaker 1: things that we could be talking.
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  Speaker 2: About because the production company hates sus. TLC hates uh.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I did hear? I think it was. Nicky Haverstock
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  Speaker 1: made a little video a couple of months ago where
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  Speaker 1: TLC sent out a survey to their viewers asking their
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  Speaker 1: opinion on the show, the casting, the production, and things
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  Speaker 1: of that nature. Nicky wasn't able to actually fill it out.
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  Speaker 1: She really would have loved to, and so would I
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  Speaker 1: have and you and all of us. But she was
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  Speaker 1: wondering whether maybe they're going to make some changes, or
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  Speaker 1: maybe they're getting some complaints. Maybe people are pissed off
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  Speaker 1: and they're listening. But I doubt it, doubt, I doubt
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  Speaker 1: it as well.
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  Speaker 2: Press for doubt. They don't give a shit. No, they've
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  Speaker 2: never given a shit. No, that's why they platform people
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  Speaker 2: like Angela and Big Ed and Cody fucking Brown.
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  Speaker 1: They just cut ties with Big Ed. No, yes, they
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  Speaker 1: fired his ass. What And in the comment section of
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  Speaker 1: TLC when they had they featured somebody did something. Everybody's like,
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  Speaker 1: what about Angela? When are you getting rid of an?
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  Speaker 2: I mean she's the worst and not Angela, She's literally
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  Speaker 2: the worst, the worst of them all. Why did they
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  Speaker 2: get rid of big Ed because it's big Ed.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't care enough because he's a loser.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, he's they fired him, and maybe they'll fire Angela.
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  Speaker 1: And oh my god, what if they've hired Cody.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, please because then all Cody has to
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  Speaker 2: do for his income is cameos, which.
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  Speaker 1: You just love.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's so pathetic.
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  Speaker 1: It is pathetic. He's pathetic.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: What was her name?
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  Speaker 2: Maya?
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  Speaker 3: Maya?
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  Speaker 1: I one agree with you. I can percent on this
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  Speaker 1: production team.
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  Speaker 3: It sucks.
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  Speaker 1: It could be so much better. Half of it, seventy
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  Speaker 1: five percent is self filmed with their iPhones. Oh why
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  Speaker 1: the fuck are these people?
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  Speaker 2: I'm sick. I'm sick of it. Also, hig from Portland.
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  Speaker 2: That's where I'm from. Keep Portland weird. Okay, Anyway, next
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  Speaker 2: color we have I think she called in twice? Okay,
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  Speaker 2: and it's from an anonymous person.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, Hi, Hey, this is miss no A, miss first name,
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  Speaker 5: and and I just have a couple comments I want
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  Speaker 5: to say. The first one is that Mary is a bully.
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  Speaker 5: She's a full on bully. She is a kiss up,
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  Speaker 5: kick down personality. That's why sometimes we like her and
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  Speaker 5: sometimes we don't because sometimes it seems like she's being okay,
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  Speaker 5: But what it is is that she will never stand
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  Speaker 5: up to her bullies, and she will always bully people
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  Speaker 5: that she thinks are below her, like Janelle. Second one
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  Speaker 5: is I think Truly is acting out because she wants
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  Speaker 5: and needs more attention and she's going through such an
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  Speaker 5: awkward phase right now and her mom is not giving
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  Speaker 5: it to her. And the reason why she is like
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  Speaker 5: biting David and breaking them up is because she knows
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  Speaker 5: David will be nice to her. And it's probably a
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  Speaker 5: different thing for her to have a male figure in
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  Speaker 5: her life that's not going to be hard, that's not
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  Speaker 5: going to be cruel, that's not going to you know,
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  Speaker 5: put the murder face on like Cody does. But the
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  Speaker 5: sad thing is that I do think she's trying to
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  Speaker 5: communicate something to her mom that she needs more attention
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  Speaker 5: right now, and she's not getting it, and it does
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  Speaker 5: seem like she's actually using David as more of a
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  Speaker 5: focal point. Just my thoughts. Thanks ladies, love the podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, le's just to dress that first. What do
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  Speaker 1: you think about the idea that Mary is a literal bully?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I can see it. I mean I just
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  Speaker 2: in some of her comments, like even this week when
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  Speaker 2: she's talking about how Janelle is probably not truthful about
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  Speaker 2: the finances, just like Cody and Robin, I'm like, why
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  Speaker 2: do you got to put that in there? Why do
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  Speaker 2: you got to be snyded like that? Or like last
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  Speaker 2: week when she was like telling Janelle, I don't know
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  Speaker 2: Cody and Robin, like, I don't know. I think that
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  Speaker 2: Cody will be a gentleman. I think he'll do the
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  Speaker 2: right thing. Shut up, man. I could see Mary being
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  Speaker 2: kind of a punchdown type of a person, like hashtag
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  Speaker 2: worthy of my ass, right, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 2: Like you're not doing the actual work to fix yourself,
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  Speaker 2: you got to punch people down.
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  Speaker 1: That is an interesting idea, and I think that I
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  Speaker 1: can kind of see it because I always just tarken
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  Speaker 1: when Christine is telling the family that she's leaving the
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  Speaker 1: Great Knife and the kidney scene, the way that Mary
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  Speaker 1: sat there stone faced, as if she was taking pleasure
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  Speaker 1: out of Cody going off, and she even said after
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  Speaker 1: the tantrum, She's like, I'm glad somebody said it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Like she enjoyed the fact that he just vitriolically almost
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  Speaker 1: abused Christine in that moment, whereas if you were a
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  Speaker 1: real one and women for women, you could have at
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  Speaker 1: least said, hey, can let's just tone it down a
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  Speaker 1: little bit. We all have something we want to say,
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  Speaker 1: but can we be respectful? Like you could have done
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  Speaker 1: something like that, but you didn't. It's almost like you
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  Speaker 1: took joy in the fact that she was getting hers
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  Speaker 1: in that moment.
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  Speaker 5: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: So I can see that she might have those tendencies,
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  Speaker 1: and of course the other wives say so. Janelle says
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  Speaker 1: so that she was bullied by Mary when she first
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  Speaker 1: entered into the marriage, and Christine has gone on to
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  Speaker 1: say she just won't even tolerate being around her because
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  Speaker 1: of the way Mary has acted.
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  Speaker 2: Yep. And Mattie's also alluded to this one of the kids,
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  Speaker 2: and then McKelty just recently on her Patreon also alluded
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  Speaker 2: to this without a crystal Ball posted on it don't
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  Speaker 2: come for me, I'm just reporting stuff what she posts.
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  Speaker 2: She scream recorded Makeelty on her Patreon answering a question
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  Speaker 2: from somebody, and somebody was like, I'm paraphrasing, like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: I think Mary is probably verbally abusive. There's like probably
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  Speaker 2: proof of it. Can you speak to that or whatever
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  Speaker 2: McKelty said. If you are thinking it, then it's totally true.
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  Speaker 2: Like everything you're thinking about Mary specifically and her abuse
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  Speaker 2: is probably true. So if a lot of people are
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  Speaker 2: saying it's it's gotta be true, right, so I can
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  Speaker 2: see it from Mary's I.
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  Speaker 1: Can as well. So what do you think about her
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  Speaker 1: saying that Truly is communicating through her acting out a
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  Speaker 1: need and a desire for more attention from Christine or
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  Speaker 1: maybe even anybody.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think that's totally true. And I think
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  Speaker 2: I talked about it last week a little bit, but
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  Speaker 2: I mean Christine even mentioned it a couple episodes ago,
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  Speaker 2: being like, yeah, anytime Truly's pulling us apart, it just
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  Speaker 2: means that she wants to be hugged tighter. So she's
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  Speaker 2: kind of aware of it, but not enough in a way,
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  Speaker 2: at least on camera, to physically show that to Truly
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  Speaker 2: or be like yeah, I know, like you're still important,
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  Speaker 2: your feelings matter. No, it's just every single week it's
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  Speaker 2: I don't care if anybody's uncomfortable, I'm still gonna have
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  Speaker 2: FuG mommy right every single.
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  Speaker 1: It's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: It's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: Well I agree, So let's go on to the next message,
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  Speaker 1: right next one.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, it's misnonymous again. First name Ann. I'm calling from
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  Speaker 5: the Virginia dumpster. And you know, we talk a lot
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  Speaker 5: about how they're lying and their liars. These people were
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  Speaker 5: raised to be liars. They were raised and brought up
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  Speaker 5: in a religion to be liars and to never put
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  Speaker 5: family first, even though families are most important. Have all
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  Speaker 5: those kids, but but you do not put the kids first.
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  Speaker 5: You put no one first but yourself. Also, the only
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  Speaker 5: one that was not raised to be a liar was Janelle.
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  Speaker 5: She became one when she entered the Fundamental faith, and
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  Speaker 5: omission is a lie. So even if she was not
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  Speaker 5: telling coworkers, you know, things that seemed done, that seemed true,
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  Speaker 5: like oh yeah, I'm married and I have all these kids,
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  Speaker 5: and you know I have help at home, she was
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  Speaker 5: still omitting the real truth, which is I live with
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  Speaker 5: three other women who are raising my children for me.
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  Speaker 5: So they're liars because they were raised to be liars,
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  Speaker 5: all of them. But the reason why we probably like
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  Speaker 5: Janelle the best is because she was not, in her
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  Speaker 5: formative years raised to be such a liar. The way Robin,
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  Speaker 5: Mary Christine were and Cody he's just a narcissist. He
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  Speaker 5: took on that mantle very well. He did not need
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  Speaker 5: the special training. Thanks ladies, love you.
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  Speaker 2: Hmmm, that's an interesting, interesting perspective.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think intrinsic to polygamy there is like a
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  Speaker 1: huge element of secrecy, like against the state, against the law,
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  Speaker 1: you've got to hide your families, and so they would
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  Speaker 1: have to learn how to be secretive. And one part
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  Speaker 1: of that is I'm sure being a liar or learning
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  Speaker 1: how to lie, to say that they were conditioned from
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  Speaker 1: the faith. See in my mind, I don't know about you,
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  Speaker 1: but I separate Mormonism from the polygamy or from the
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  Speaker 1: fundamentalist Mormonism. Oh yeah, yeah, So I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: inherent to Mormonism there is a necessary evil of lying,
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  Speaker 1: Like I don't know that that would be the case
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  Speaker 1: any more than any other religion. Really maybe lying to
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  Speaker 1: yourself right about a god on collab and whatnot, but
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  Speaker 1: like and or lying to other people if you're a missionary,
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  Speaker 1: although you wouldn't imagine that you were lying. But with
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  Speaker 1: these fundamentalist sects that often break the lay law and
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  Speaker 1: often her children and women and such, you would have
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  Speaker 1: to lie, and so yeah, so Mary's habituated to it,
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  Speaker 1: She's used to it.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: Robin, well, I know her stepfather was a polygamist. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not sure if her original bio dad was. I don't
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  Speaker 1: maybe so I forget.
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  Speaker 2: I can't remember. I mean, Robin's just a liar to
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  Speaker 2: begin with, right, right, right, She's always been a liar,
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  Speaker 2: So she's kind of like the exception I think. But
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  Speaker 2: like Mary definitely grew up like that with all of
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  Speaker 2: her moms and all of her siblings. Like as a kid,
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  Speaker 2: you're told to lie and like not say who your
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  Speaker 2: real dad is and not say that you have multiple moms.
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  Speaker 2: Same thing with Christine, Like she was also bred to
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  Speaker 2: be fearful of the law and other people ratting out
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  Speaker 2: her family because it happened to her grandfather I think, right,
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  Speaker 2: But Janelle, I mean, she wasn't raised fundamentalist plagamist, right
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  Speaker 2: because her mom Cody's life later. So yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I think, but that's like an interesting perspective that they
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  Speaker 2: were all raised to be liars. But like, also they
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  Speaker 2: started on TLCS, like they were probably groomed by production
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  Speaker 2: to say certain things. Or act a certain ways. That way,
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  Speaker 2: they didn't reveal all of their secrets and stuff, so
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  Speaker 2: it's just been nineteen seasons of that as well.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why production would do that. I think
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  Speaker 1: it is much more interesting to tell the truth of
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  Speaker 1: the seedy nature of polygamy and or if your relationships
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  Speaker 1: are falling apart, or if you've got rebellious kids, instead
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  Speaker 1: of constantly covering for them and pretending everything is okay,
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  Speaker 1: to let us actually see the cracks is more entertaining
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  Speaker 1: at the very least, as opposed to us just in
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  Speaker 1: a dumpster with a monocle trying to figure it out
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  Speaker 1: for ourselves.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, I think if you were raised to lie,
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  Speaker 1: it ain't no thing to continue to lie on television.
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  Speaker 1: Event like to still lie to this day. Oh, I
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  Speaker 1: believe Mary is still lying to this day when she's
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  Speaker 1: hoodwinking people into her Worthy of program, which, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: we talked about in our recap. Yeah, because we have
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  Speaker 1: knowledge of a couple of people who are in the
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  Speaker 1: worthy oft program and we talk a little bit about
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  Speaker 1: what's going on over there. But like, I think she's
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  Speaker 1: still lying. I think Christine, I don't know if she's
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  Speaker 1: a liar so much as she's just insensitive and generally selfish.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think she's like disingenuous. Like I don't think
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  Speaker 2: she's like purposely lying, because she's being a little bit
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  Speaker 2: more honest about like her real feelings and stuff, and
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  Speaker 2: in this season and with David, like we can't stop
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  Speaker 2: talking about it. But like, I think she definitely is disingenuous.
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  Speaker 2: Like even in this episode, she's like talking about how
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  Speaker 2: she's to be so strict, but isn't really going into
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  Speaker 2: the fact that you were a religious crazy person and
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  Speaker 2: you were advocating for polygamy all the time. You're just like, ah,
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  Speaker 2: people change, Yeah, Like that's so disingenuous to like theah.
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  Speaker 1: I guess in sin Ti Like, yeah, I mean we've
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  Speaker 1: talked week after week about like how it would be
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: so interesting to explain the but they're not going to
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: do it, so I don't expect them to. But and
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: then there's Janelle, and I would actually say Janelle really
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: does lie to herself. She's lying to herself about the
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: impact that this relationship has had on her children, and
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: that's unfortunate. And again I say, all of these people,
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: what excuse me? The og wives need therapy. I don't
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: think you can therapize an actual narcissist, which I think
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: Cody is, and I also think Robin is.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: Yes, so thanks for your comments and Anonymous.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: You miss Anonymous?
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: Next one we have is from Tina Be.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: Okay, Tina B.
• 17:37
  Speaker 6: Hey, this is Tina B. I could not resist coming
• 17:41
  Speaker 6: on here to talk to you, guys. I am calling
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: you from the dumpster that is Texas right now on
• 17:48
  Speaker 6: many many friends. But anyway, I just wanted to say
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: that I am one hundred percent in agreement with y'all
• 17:57
  Speaker 6: that I'm so sick of sick, sick, sick of Christine
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: and David. I just I can't take it.
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: I used to be such a.
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: Fan of hers, and now I'm just not anymore. And
• 18:09
  Speaker 6: again I agree with y'all when you're saying I'm glad
• 18:12
  Speaker 6: she's happy. I mean, of course, I'm not a monster.
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: I'm glad she's happy.
• 18:16
  Speaker 6: But I can't help but notice that every time that
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: she talks about how happy she is, she drops Cody's
• 18:24
  Speaker 6: name in there, like she says, oh, Cody never fixed
• 18:29
  Speaker 6: the house, or Cody never gave me attention, or Cody
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: never whatever. But then she's always like.
• 18:34
  Speaker 7: The David does.
• 18:36
  Speaker 6: It's like, can you not talk about your ex anymore?
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: I mean, that's weird. It's weird, And if I were David,
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: I would have a huge problem with that.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: What do y'all think, agreed? I mean, I've been hating
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: on Christine the last several episodes. I'm just like, oh,
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: shut up already. But yeah, like the fact that she
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: always has to bring Cody in at some point, like
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: to compare David and Cody. Like I get why she's
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: doing it, because that's the only other like relationship reference
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: that she has because she's only ever been with Cody,
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: but like it is kind of weird and kind of annoying,
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: Like stop talking about Cody if you're over him and
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: you're over the marriage and over this life, like shut
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: up about it. But you're on the show. So I
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: mean she kind of does have to talk about Cody.
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: Right, Yeah.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: I think she definitely likes to dig at him. I
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: think that she knows that Cody will automatically compare himself
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: to David. Yeah, he even talked about it in the
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: episode with Gwendolen's engagement and what if this guy's a
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: big stud and this or that, like, so he's already
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: thinking along those lines, and so I think she's invested
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: in trying to make him feel bad. But at the
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: same time, I think that's just super indicative of unhealed trauma.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: And when you're not dealing with your stuff, the stuff
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: that has heard you, the stuff that has changed you,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: you end up living in a state of reaction and
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: you're constantly reacting to that which is still alive within you.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Not to get too deep, but Christine, I think, is
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: such an example of a person who literally is always
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: reacting to that which hurt her so deeply, which she
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: has not I don't think she's not gotten therapy, for
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: she hasn't talked to anybody about I don't know what
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: she's doing to try and deal with that other than
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: kind of just cover it up with a new relationship
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: with a guy who does seem to be like a
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: good person. But like, you're still in a state of reaction.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: And you may think that you're acting intentionally by looking
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: for a man and buying a house and we're getting
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: married really quickly and nobody can deter me, and maybe
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: that feels intentional, but that is also a reaction to
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: the thing that you're not dealing with. So this is
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: a person who's walking around constantly with a lot of baggage.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: But the thing about that is it always rises to
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: the surface. Your trauma is always talking to you. It
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: is a form of communication that lives inside of your head.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: And so if you don't do something about it, it's
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: going to show up in your body. It's going to
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: show up in your relationship, it's going to show up
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: in your success, in every single area of your life.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Which is why Christine you in danger.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: Girl.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Les you deal with this and you can laugh all
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: you want and pretend you're so well adjusted and so
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: happy now, but I guarantee you is gonna show up
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: if it hasn't already.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And like once that honeymoon phase is over,
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: I mean that's when all the real shit starts pumping up.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, you can ignore it all you want, but
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: it's gonna come up, I mean regardless. Like I can
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: just see moments in her and David's relationship where like
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: maybe he just doesn't kiss her when she wants him to,
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: and then she's like, are you was still attracted to me?
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Because you know Cody said he wasn't attracted to me, Like,
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: I can see those reactive tendencies just popping up, and
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: like David, I'm sure is gonna be very thoughtful about it,
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: you know, for the most part. But when that keeps happening,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: because she's not actually dealing with it, she's just reacting
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: all the time and not dealing with the trauma, Like,
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: he's gonna get tired of it. Yes, I mean any
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: normal posts.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: She'sady exhausting. Yeah, her actual personality is already exhausting. But
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: when you add to that like that, so much of
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: that is is anxiety. So much of that is fueled
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: by insecurity and issues probably constantly coming from a place
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: like that. Like for somebody like David, who seems to
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: have a shit together, he seems to be a well
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: established person. Yeah, I could see him getting very tired
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: of that. So I hope Christine gets up. I think
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: all of these women actually really need help.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Uh huh. They all need therapy. It'd be cool if
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: TLC paid for it, but they won't because they'd rather
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: just plat for them.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Platform them, And also maybe they would consider that an
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: admission that they contributed to the problem, especially where the
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: children are concerned.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Oh, from the wives perspectives like yeah, yeah.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Or from TLC's like, yeah, we're not going to pay
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: for your therapy and your treatment because that might be
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: an admission that we contributed to the problem.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Oh, because they totally did.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Get somebody like Crawlton Gosslin right tat these dugger kids,
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: like they contributed to the abuse of these children, and
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: so to send them to therapy would almost be an
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: admission of that.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: That's a great point.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: They could never do that, Oh.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: They could never. Well, thanks for that, Tina B.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: All right. Next one is from Shell Shell.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: Hi, ranking, This is Shell coming from a filthy dumpster
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: in Australia, and I just had to call and pop
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: off about what I just witnessed with my own raccoon.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: I balls the tom poolery of this last fift Life's episode.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: I'm talking about Robin rolling up in there, stopping Mary
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: from doing what she's doing and just vomiting this fucking
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: fake sour bullshit all over Mary.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: But Mary's reaction was golden. Mary's looking at her, going, bitch,
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: I got shit to do. What the fuck are you
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: in my house right now? Giving me some shitty ass,
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: little fucking go get on your fucking broomstick and go home, bitch.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: But I contrasted that with what I saw from Cody
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: when Cody had his like melt down or whatever, and
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: that was ridiculous too, because excuse me, sir, but is
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: this not what you have wanted? Is this not the
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: fruits of your fucking labor. But anyway, but for some reason,
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: I found myself sitting there and in my little raccoon
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: heart there was like a little a little flutter because
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: I don't know, I feel like somewhere in there he
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: was actually real.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: What do you think, Wow, that is so cool that
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: we have a raccoon from Australia calling in.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Yesh, God International put another shrip on the barbie. Oh
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: my god, I think that's awesome as well. Yeah, what
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: do you think.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: About Robin and Cody?
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean I just yes, so Robin coming into
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: the scene and just totally shitting all over it with
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: her negativity and then cold and potentially like they're being
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: a kernel of actual regret. Yeah and sadness.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Well, you had talked about that last week when we
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: watched the preview. You're like, I think that there might
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: be like a little bit of some genuine emotion from Cody,
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: and I agree. After watching this episode, I'm like, yeah,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: I can see where, somewhere, deep down in his cold, black,
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: dead heart, he might actually be a little sad at
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: the destruction of his family and like how this is
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: like a complete change of pace for his entire life.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: But at the same time, it's like, why are you crying?
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: Bro?
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: You've been shitting on Mary, especially for the last like
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: several years on National TV, talking about how terrible and
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: awful and abusive she is, and shitting on Christine for
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: how ugly and disgusting she is, and shitting on Janelle
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: for being such a bitch, Like you did this, you
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: created this, So why are you crying? Like come on now?
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: But I mean, I don't know. It's like with Cody,
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: maybe he's finally feeling the weight of the shame and
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: his failure. And with Robin it's just pure narcissistic injury.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, coming over there to make a fucking scene
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: with her stupid, fucking junk journal, dumb gift to give
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: to Mary and then just sobbing to Mary, trying to
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: get some emotion out of Mary, and Mary's like, you're
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: so dumb shut the fuck up, bitch.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: I think Mary even rolled her eyes a little bit.
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: She did.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: I went back to looks.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: I was like, it could be an eye roll there.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: She could be over Robin's shit. I really really hope so.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: But I just thought it was so ridiculous. I mean,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: they were having fun loading up that truck. They were
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: playing and laughing, and then here comes fucking pig pen,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: sour faced Robin Brown with her perpetual frown, Robin.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Frown so pretty and shy.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, and she immediately changed the vibe. Everybody
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: immediately got really dour, really low. And then she pulls
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Mary away from the shit she's supposed to be doing,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: and then she has her fucking self congratulatory little meeting
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: with her, and I'm just like, read the room, Robin,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: like Mary's not into it. And I was talking to
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: you earlier tonight, and I'm just like, I have what
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: I call social awareness, Like if I'm talking to somebody
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: and they're not the least bit interested, I noticed that, Yeah,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, well, let me shut the fuck up, right, like,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: let me act appropriately in any given situation. Robin has
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: none of that in this moment. No and I'm sure
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: we'll talk about that more in the recap, but I'm
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: just like Robin, I mean, how can you not see
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: what we can see? Mary is not crying, She does
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: not want to engage, like get your sour ass out
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: of the house and leave.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: It was so out of place. It is so cringe.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: I watched it a couple times today and I'm just like,
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: oh my god, I can't deal with her, like forcing
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: the tears out of her eyeballs. It's like, get out
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: of here. It just proves that Robin's just been full
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: of shit this entire time.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you want to be a friend, help
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: her to move.
• 27:53
  Speaker 8: I mean, for real, No, she's justo sad for that right,
• 27:55
  Speaker 8: just be too heartbroken to actually maybe break a n
• 27:58
  Speaker 8: ail and help her out because she's actually really like her,
• 28:02
  Speaker 8: which we can address on the recap for sure.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: With regard to Cody, it felt like a hybrid of
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: a combination of performance the performing arts, and like brushing
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: up against the crushing weight of what he has done
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: with his life. Yeah, and Mary is emblematic. She is
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: a symbol for everything that he has lost and because
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: and even says it, because he's not active in the
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: anger anymore. Now he has the space to actually feel
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: the sadness, and so that's where he thinks the emotion
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: is coming from. And I'm sure that's he's correct. He's
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: just also so dumb. He's soully down not to like
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: make the connections between his own behavior and everything that
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: has happened, and to have this weird fucking moment in
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: front of Jen and Nay Nay, like it was just like,
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: what are we doing? I don't understand? But was there
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: an authentic impulse within that broken and profoundly stupid man.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: I would say yes, yeah, I would say maybe, like, yeah,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: maybe a little bit.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: A tiny little popcorn, Yeah, colonel like that.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: That's a dull light in the very stupid dog's.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: Eyes exactly, That's what it is, exactly.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Well, thanks Shelle, Thanks Shlle.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm Australia, Australia.
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: I've never been.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: I went to Sydney.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was really nice and very fun. Also
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: manly beach. Oh, I was thinking.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: Madly men there, no oh that I saw darn. All right, Well,
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: next caller is from Taylor, okay, yeah.
• 29:46
  Speaker 7: All right, hey gals, it's Taylor from Connecticut. I just
• 29:50
  Speaker 7: watching the episode this week and I just had a
• 29:52
  Speaker 7: quick comment. When Cody is breaking down, I think it
• 29:56
  Speaker 7: has nothing to do with these women. I think it
• 30:00
  Speaker 7: has nothing to do with you know, morening than the
• 30:03
  Speaker 7: loss of marriage or anything. I truly think it's just
• 30:05
  Speaker 7: him realizing he absolutely failed. So I would love your
• 30:09
  Speaker 7: perspectives to see why you think he's actually crying. I'm
• 30:12
  Speaker 7: trying to think about it from a therapist point of
• 30:14
  Speaker 7: view and go what is he actually sad about? And
• 30:17
  Speaker 7: I think it's because he failed. Thanks for your episodes
• 30:20
  Speaker 7: and I look forward to hearing your input. Bye.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Well, and we kind of just address that, but to
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: put a finer point on it, like what I'm talking
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: about when I say that that shit will bubble to
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: the surface, That trauma, that hurt is going to make
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: itself known no matter what, and like you can tamp
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: it down, you can pretend it's not happening, you can
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: pretend you're justified in all of your anger, but it's
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: going to come up. Yeah, And I do think that
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: in that moment, it wasn't really about Mary. It was
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: about what him and Mary created together, because indeed those
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: two are the ones that started all of this, yep,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: the entire family, the entire Brown legacy, and now it
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: is gone. And so in that moment, whether he can
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: intellectually figure this out or not, which obviously he can't,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: he's feeling it though, Yeah, and so this is why
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: he's crying. But he's also probably taking advantage of the
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: emotions that are emerging and thinking, oh, well, the cameras
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: are also here, and we obviously have to rehab our image. Yes,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: let me just make a performance out of this and
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: take it to the limit and make everybody feel sorry
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: for me.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which is really interesting and also hypocritical of him
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: because last week he was talking about how he doesn't
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: want to show his heart to Mary because it's not safe,
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: But then here he's crying. It's not and everywhere because
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: it's on camera and he wants people to think that
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: he's got a heart. But like, I also do think
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: he is crying because it is a massive failure and
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: he is a failure.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: And Janelle said so yeah, and the church.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Leader said so too. So like everybody in the whole
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: Diur world is saying that he's a massive failure. So
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: you can't like avoid that forever and I would even say,
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: like with his drinking and stuff that we've been speculating
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: about for the last couple of years, like I feel
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: like he's numbing it. Like from a therapist's perspective, I
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: think that's all he's doing to deal with it. I
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: don't think he's in therapy. I don't think he's actually
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: dealing with it in a healthy way. I think he's
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: drinking it away and he's doing cameos, probably drunk, right,
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: which honestly, I would pay for it. I'd pay for
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: a cameo from drunk Cody. I think that'd be hilarious.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I think he just wants to do anything
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: he can to avoid feeling the weight of that, because
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: to feel the weight of that would be crushing.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: And if we believe that Cody once was a good father, right,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: you know, and Janelle often says like he was a
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: great dad, he was super present. I mean really all
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: of the wives said that about him. And also we
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: saw the early seasons, and I would even say, and
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: I can't stand this guy. I would say he seemed
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: to be a good dad and really motivated by keeping
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: his family together. So if he once was this great
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: dad who legitimately loved his children to now like sit
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: in the hollow absentness of having none of the kids
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: except for three that aren't biologically his and two vampires.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: They're not vampire children. They're a little baby like I
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: worry about them, yeah, a little bit, being raised by Robin,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: but like, these are your only kids.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Everybody else is gone, and they hate you, like they
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: don't want to talk to you. They think you're a
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: piece of shit. I mean, Maddie straight up, like subtweeting
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: on Instagram about you, about how you're an abusive piece
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: of shit, Like yeah, like you can't avoid that.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: So especially if he really did love them and no
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: young really felt like his identity was being a dad
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: and now likely he's a drift. What does he have?
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and a couple of things could be true at once,
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Like he could still love his family and kids and stuff,
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: but like also be so unaware and selfish to not
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: acknowledge his own blame in all of it, Like that
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: can those things can coexist? Like I do think Cody's
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: totally a narc and he has those tendencies and everything,
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: but like, deep down he probably loves his kids and
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: his family in a weird kind of twisted way. And
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: I think it got twisted because of Robin, because Robin
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: just like pulled him into her web and took him
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: from everybody and then wants to play damsel in distress
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: because she knows that that's like Cody's you know, I
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: He wants to be a white night.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he wants to be her w yes exactly.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, totally agree. Yeah, there's probably real feelings
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: in there. I don't think that he's being honest about
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: or he might not even have the capacity to understand
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: what's going on within himself exact because again that essential dumbness, yes,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: and lack of awareness of self.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: So thank you for that interesting call, Taylor.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: Yes, thank you, Taylor.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: And last call we have is from Tina. Just regular Tina.
• 34:59
  Speaker 9: Okay, Tina, be no, just regular teas, just regular Tina. Right, Hey, friends,
• 35:03
  Speaker 9: it's Tina calling from Canada. It's been a while since
• 35:07
  Speaker 9: I called in. I'm telling you this recent episode. I
• 35:10
  Speaker 9: actually couldn't watch it all in one sitting. I had
• 35:13
  Speaker 9: to pause it and then go back to it just
• 35:15
  Speaker 9: because I'm just so fed up with it, Like it
• 35:20
  Speaker 9: makes my blood pressure go up, I swear the ridiculousness
• 35:24
  Speaker 9: of the whole thing.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: Robin.
• 35:26
  Speaker 9: First, let's start with Robin coming.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: Over and Mary's house and crying like.
• 35:36
  Speaker 9: I just I can't, I can't deal with her, and
• 35:37
  Speaker 9: Mary's standing there with her Karma T shirt on. The
• 35:40
  Speaker 9: whole thing is ridoculous. And then Cody sobbing, I you
• 35:46
  Speaker 9: know what I want, ladies, I want at the telle al,
• 35:52
  Speaker 9: which we will not get. But if I had my wish,
• 35:55
  Speaker 9: I would like to have basically a list of you
• 35:59
  Speaker 9: said this, Explain it, you said this, Explain it for
• 36:04
  Speaker 9: Robin and Cody, because this whole thing is off the
• 36:07
  Speaker 9: charts ridiculous. And that's all I have to say. I
• 36:11
  Speaker 9: just needed to share thank you again, Love you.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Both one hundred percent. Tina yep, Like why can't they
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: do what something like Bravo does or I don't know
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: any other.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: Even ninety Day Fiance does. Yeah, they show clip show
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: clips yeah.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: And dispute what's being said, especially in like the context
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: of a tell all, when you have somebody like Sukianu
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: sitting down to have this conversation, like to have this
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: know what you're going to ask, know what you're going
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: to challenge him on and then have some footage that
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: you can actually show him right in his big dumb
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: bald face, show him well, you actually did say this though,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: You actually did do that though, and then see what
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: his response is. I honestly think, just from a purely
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: entertainment standpoint, and entertainment equals money, I feel like TLC
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: is leaving money on the table because you are alienating
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: so much of your audience who like this person cannot
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: like watch it in one sitting anymore because it's too infuriating. Yet,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: but what if you did your job shock, oh my god, gas.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: What if you did your job and followed up or
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: even had a montage that Cody's not even aware of
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: in the moment, but he sees it in the episode
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: because you're calling him on his bullshit, right, I mean,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: enough of like the very subtle calling out of Cody
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: and Robin, and like the intro for example, they're in
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: dark colors, everybody else is in white. I mean, that's
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: great and all, and we can appreciate that, but be direct,
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: I know all these fools out well.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: The best we can do is we get interstitial reactions
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: in the show, but they're from different points in time,
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: Like this week it was Robin responding to Christine talking
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: about Mary and Robin's relationship, where Christine's like, yeah, I
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: hate that Robin manipulates Mary or whatever, and then Robin
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: and her interstitial from probably this year twenty twenty four
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: is like, oh that's laughable.
• 38:10
  Speaker 9: That's it.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: It's like literally the best that we can tell you.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Why, Like all you say is, well, do you think
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: you could really manipulate Mary? Well, yeah, she was fucking catfish,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: I sure do. Yeah, she gave her position as first wife.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: I sure do. Yeah, But like nobody follows up with
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: any of that. No, we're again screaming into the void
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: about this, but what are you gonna do?
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: And this is why viewership is going down? And like
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: we've said before, like if we weren't doing the podcast,
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: we probably wouldn't watch the show. Like it's just like, uh,
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: such a drag, Like we have all of this filler
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: crap with Christine and David oh.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: My god, and bumping her ass up into Cody's crotch,
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: and like five minutes later, I'm like, when we could
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: be talking about the books for we could be expanding
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: on the conversation with Janelle and Christine about the fucking
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: LLC and how they were paid and he's cutting checks. Okay,
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: tell me more of that. Yeah, that's what I really
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: want to know. But like we, you know, this is
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: our lament every single week. Every week, nobody's listening except
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: for fellow raccoons exactly.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: At least people agree with.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: That's right for the most part. Well, these were really good, everybody.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for calling in again. If you
• 39:16
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• 39:18
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• 39:22
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• 39:24
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• 39:28
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• 39:29
  Speaker 2: Dumpster around the world, around the world.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: I got Canada and Australia, we.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: Got international world fame.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: We are famous.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: Now is there anything else that we need to say
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: to these beautiful raccoons before we get up on outa here?
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: Beatrice, Well, if you love our podcast and you're thankful
• 39:47
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• 39:50
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• 39:53
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• 39:55
  Speaker 2: dumpsters around the world can join in.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: Now. We will be back now next week to talk
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: sister wives, and I think nine Day can't. The Last
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Resorts starts the week after that. Oh my gosh, I'm
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: hoping that's going to be fun, because one thing it's
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: not is fun. So we'll be back for that though
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: next week. Until them, please do not forget that we
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: have nothing but love for you and
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: Peace all night.