Latest / The Magic Guys / The Magic Guys Listener Choice Awards! #249

Transcript

The Magic Guys Listener Choice Awards! #249 · The Magic Guys

0:02
They're guys. They do magic. They are the Magic Guys.
0:14
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to episode number 249 of the Magic Guys. I'm Josh Norbedo.
0:21
I'm hopped up on Mother Energy Drink and to my left is Nick Kay.
0:26
That's right friends i'm nick k and i'm drinking turkish
0:29
coffee which has a lot more caffeine than an average coffee oh
0:32
turkish coffee what's the lowdown is
0:35
it stronger that's what that's the enticement apparently it's
0:39
it's it's a it's pulverized coffee which is made
0:42
to a boil and basically it's a black coffee that makes
0:45
a black settlement of the coffee on the bottom of
0:47
the cup like it makes a sediment which you don't drink but you
0:51
know what i pretty buzzed you know
0:54
what talking about buzz i did something i shouldn't which is we bought
0:57
a new pre-workout for the gym my partner and
1:00
i but you know how like you're just not
1:02
used to like the dosage and flavor and the the effect of it when you just switch
1:06
to a new one we switched to a new one and we had the recommended scoop but it
1:11
felt like it did nothing and and and my partner sandy she agreed right so i'm
1:15
like all right it's it's it's suggesting we put half the amount of water into
1:20
what we normally do so my thought is.
1:22
Ah, we must have to double the dosage and double the water.
1:25
And that will equal like what we normally have at the gym.
1:30
Anyway, so I doubled it. So I have like two and a half scoops.
1:34
I'm like, this should do something. And I give my partner a bit more than one scoop.
1:39
And I'm like, oh yeah, I can kind of feel it now. But I look at Sandy at the gym.
1:44
She's like, but I forgot to tell her that I was just going to make it a bit stronger.
1:47
And she's like, I don't know what's
1:49
going on, but I'm kind of having heart palpitations. This feels like...
1:53
Something's wrong here and i'm like oh god almost killed
1:56
my girlfriend from trying a higher dose of pre-workout anyway
2:00
merry christmas everyone merry christmas merry christmas
2:04
buddy yeah i i went to the same thing i have one called corrupt i
2:07
guess the name itself is probably enough to be like be a bit chill if
2:11
you take it and go mountain biking you're okay but
2:14
if you take it and then don't go mountain biking
2:17
because something happens or the rain and the tips
2:20
of your fingers tingle like you just
2:23
feel yeah full crackhead energy it's
2:26
great and that my friends is what we call
2:29
beta alanine if you don't use it up it'll get
2:32
you it'll give you the buzz the the tingles i love what dragoteer is saying
2:37
in the in the chat which is 100 true we get to start the new year with episode
2:42
250 you bet yeah it's gonna be dope exactly and the episode episode 250 will
2:48
be our new year's resolutions.
2:51
So keep that in mind. We will be posting in our discord the speak pipes.
2:55
We've already got a few already from you guys as to what your goals for the
3:00
new year, the new year being 2026.
3:03
So yeah, have a think about it. You got a week to let us know,
3:06
let us know, put it out to the universe. We are a community and we will help
3:09
you guys achieve what your goals are.
3:12
Yeah. Shout out to Pasha and Caden already sent in their new year's resolutions
3:16
on the speak pipe, speakpipe.com forward slash the magic guys.
3:20
And what Nick's saying is so true. Be specific.
3:23
Like there was a Facebook group I was in once where the goal at some point was
3:27
to make a video and talk about our news resolutions.
3:31
Everything I said came true to the point where like the
3:34
Facebook group went dark and no one used it
3:37
anymore but I specifically went back the next year just
3:40
to redo my New Year's resolutions and
3:44
I just explained like hey guys I know we don't post in here anymore but
3:48
like everything I wanted came true so
3:51
I'm just gonna do it again here and just mind your business because this
3:54
worked really well yeah well let's let's actually like
3:57
share that with everyone and what to do because I've got a couple of things that i've
3:59
done in the past myself but that is good content for next
4:03
week's episode this week's episode yeah this week's
4:06
episode is we have never done this before and
4:09
i'm like why not let's do the magic guys annual awards and we just wanted to
4:17
award everyone on their excellence on the folks that we've met interviewed episodes
4:22
we've done so i just came up with as many silly ideas as I can,
4:26
go up with 10 in total, 10 fun ideas.
4:28
And basically it's, it's all the stuff that we, not only like myself,
4:33
Doug and Josh, but you, the listener, as to what we've sort of gotten up to.
4:37
And so, uh, Drago says that he's dressed, well, Drago tier, I know you're sad
4:42
that both Josh and myself aren't dressed to the nines for the award show,
4:45
but that is something we'll keep in mind for next year. I am wearing pants.
4:51
I'm wearing rare and i've stayed at his place and yeah
4:54
you know pants aren't a normal everyday item but but i love that idea like every
5:00
year it would be awesome to make the awards like bigger and better that would
5:03
be better yeah well it's my first go okay is what i'm trying to say it's our
5:08
first go but yeah we can certainly do it for next year maybe i'll wear a tuxedo shirt,
5:13
you know like the one that's the black t-shirts it's like you know
5:16
stupid ones oh yeah i remember i used to rock that it's
5:19
like an idiot i remember seeing them at like some sunday markets
5:22
and i was like oh this is really cool i can be a magician even when i'm casual
5:25
uh but it's it's not yeah well just to explain how these worked effectively
5:31
all i did was i i was looking at our backlog over the past 50 odd episodes we've
5:36
done in the year of 2025 and i made a list of the things we'd achieved,
5:42
whether it be spitball ideas, gig stories, et cetera.
5:45
And I basically made a whole bunch of nominations, asked for people to be nominated,
5:49
and then put the ability for you guys to vote for it on our Discord.
5:54
And the votes are in, and these are the results.
5:58
Hell yeah. Do we need some kind of buildup? I don't know. Okay,
6:01
we'll figure it out. Let's play. Let me do this.
6:18
The annual 2025 awards now presented by Nick Kay.
6:25
Friends, our first award is the best spitball idea.
6:30
As you know, the spitball episodes are about ideas that we have that aren't
6:35
fully formed or fleshed out.
6:36
And what we do is we spitball the idea amongst our community live on the episode.
6:41
And then we all share ideas on how to either improve or achieve the spitball
6:47
idea. We have three nominations for this category.
6:51
First, we have Scotty Painter with what we call the mini canvas souvenir idea.
6:57
As you know, Scotty is an amazing artist and has actually done animated episodes and shorts of our show.
7:03
And in this episode of his, he had this idea that he had a tiny canvas about
7:09
the size of a playing card where you would have a revelation written on there.
7:12
And we spoke about the several ways to do that. And the beauty of it is that
7:16
it would be a little canvas, which you would gift your spectator at the end
7:19
of it. Beautiful, cool idea.
7:22
Another idea. Such a nice idea. It was such a nice idea, man.
7:25
It was really fun. Another idea was actually an idea of mine.
7:29
So Nick K was nominated for this one. The notion of this was the uncheatable deck.
7:34
It was basically a premise to be able to do gambling demonstrations without
7:39
you doing actual gambling demonstrations.
7:40
The notion was that when people say to you, oh, I'd love to go to the casino
7:45
with you and you explain to your spectator, well, that's all well and good.
7:48
But in the casinos, they use uncheatable decks.
7:51
And then you grab like a Jerry's Nuggets casino deck and then show that you,
7:56
no matter how hard you try to cheat, it doesn't happen.
7:59
So for example, you can have an ace face up on the deck. And every time you
8:02
try to deal yourself an ace, you would do second deals and like,
8:06
I can't cheat with this deck.
8:07
And that would be the whole premise of the routine.
8:11
And then lastly, we have the revolutionary magician of ass magic.
8:18
His excellency, Jack Grady.
8:21
Now, Jack Grady called her the spitball idea, which was pretty fantastic. Now, the idea was this.
8:28
Synesthesia is the ability to see colors, as in through sound and whatever else.
8:35
And his idea was to be like blindfolded
8:39
and then being shot in full pelt
8:43
in the chest via a paintball gun
8:46
and he was able to tell the colors being shot
8:49
at him a really really good idea so just to reiterate we have scott painter
8:56
with his mini canvas souvenir idea nick k with the uncheatable deck and jack
9:02
grady with the paintball color match and the The winner is Jack Grady.
9:15
Yeah. Dude, the Spitball Ideas was actually a really fun episode.
9:18
It's amazing how creative some of our fellows can be and some of the ideas they
9:21
share. Like, it's actually quite a good time.
9:24
I don't know why we don't do it more. Like we used to do it a fair bit.
9:28
Yeah, let's, you know, we got to keep that in the roster, guys.
9:31
You got to, we got to keep it in the roster. You know, if you want to be a part
9:34
of the fam, you got to send in your speak pipes.
9:36
Maybe, maybe we should try to commit to doing one every two months or one every
9:41
month or something of that nature.
9:43
Yeah, or at least it'd be like a segment within the episode,
9:47
right? Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
9:49
Like in an ideal world, you know, if we could get four people sending in spitballs every month.
9:56
We'd have one a week. It could be a segment in the show.
9:59
Yeah. I like it. I like it a lot. And yeah, congrats to Jack Grady who will
10:05
probably not even hear this or become aware of it.
10:08
But you can now put it on your website that you are an award-winning magician.
10:12
That's right. Yeah. And you, yeah.
10:15
I mean, you literally win nothing. Like, these awards are...
10:19
I mean, that's like our FISM award. Yeah.
10:27
That's sad anyway yeah great award well deserved
10:30
and yeah who knows who knows what will happen next year can i can i throw in
10:36
a quick gig story before we get to the next award you know what it's perfect
10:40
because the next thing was an actual gig story so let's let's break it up with
10:42
the gig story go ahead oh my god all right well in that case then we got to do it properly with,
10:50
So Gig Stories is a section of the show where we like to talk about magical
10:54
moments, either while performing for our day-to-day or while doing gigs,
10:57
starting with a story with our friend from that side of the planet, Josh Nobito.
11:01
Hell yeah. So two, I've got two, but I'll keep them brief.
11:06
There's so many gigs that happened over December, which is such a blessing.
11:09
But I made a note because these two were just very odd. So the first one...
11:15
Doing a roving gig and doing my classic one coin routine where the ending is
11:20
that this silver coin is going to turn into a copper coin in their hand.
11:25
Classic of magic, copper silver effect. But what the funny thing was is at the
11:30
end, when the guy opens his hand and he sees the copper coin,
11:34
he reacts and it gets a good reaction and it's great.
11:37
And then he says, because he's an engineer, he's like, yeah,
11:41
I think in front of like the group of six people that just watched it,
11:44
he's Like, I think I know how you did it.
11:46
And I'm always curious just to hear what they have to say, because often it's
11:50
not actually the method.
11:51
It's something more impressive. And he's like, you switched it in my hand.
11:56
You must have switched the coin in my hand.
11:59
And I'm like, all right, well, let's go deeper on that, because that was the effect.
12:03
The effect is, in your hand, I will switch the coin.
12:06
So all you've done is describe the magic that occurred.
12:09
He's like, no, no, you must have gotten in there somehow and swapped it.
12:13
And so his friends around him questioned him.
12:16
They're like, so did you see him put the silver coin in your hand? And he's like, yeah.
12:20
And I reiterated, I'm like, remember, I just, I dropped it openly in your hand
12:25
and then you closed your hand.
12:27
They're like, did you see the silver coin? And he's like, yes.
12:30
He's false remembering, which is fantastic. And he's like, yeah,
12:33
I saw him put it in my hand and I closed my hand and I turned my hand over.
12:37
And then I'm like, all right. And so what you're saying is that somewhere between
12:41
then when you turn your hand over and me bringing out the copper coin and introducing
12:46
it, I somehow swapped it.
12:49
They went into this downward spiral, which is just so beautiful that eventually
12:53
they had like nowhere to run essentially.
12:55
And they were just, they made themselves even more fooled.
12:59
Dragotier says, doing magic for smart people must be so entertaining.
13:02
It honestly is the easiest group of people to fool. It's so fun.
13:07
So that happened. Basically, like a sleight of hand trick became like they just
13:12
fooled themselves so out.
13:13
The other notable thing that happened was, and this is something to prepare
13:18
for as magicians, I was booked to Rove for one hour at a Christmas party and it was at a warehouse.
13:25
But I get there and I realize it's a small warehouse and they only have 15 staff
13:30
and I'm there for an hour and the 15 staff are all sat at one little long table
13:36
and they've also just been served dinner.
13:40
Like they just spent the afternoon cooking all this barbecue food and stuff
13:43
and they've all just sat down.
13:45
So they're not going to be walking around and allowing me to like row for small groups or whatever.
13:51
And I see them all sit down to eat and I say to the owner, I'm like,
13:54
oh, I see you're all just about to eat.
13:56
How about I wait and I come back in half an hour? She's like,
13:59
no, this is perfect. We're all here seated.
14:01
I'm like, okay. To watch me row for an hour? She's like, yeah,
14:05
just do whatever you want. I'm like, okay.
14:08
So fortunately, like, you know, Nick, when you get to like, you've just done
14:13
so much work that at this point, And instead of like arguing the semantics of
14:19
what you booked for, whatever, you're just like, fuck it.
14:22
I'll just, whatever needs to be done here, I'm just going to do it.
14:26
So essentially I just started doing my theater and magic show.
14:29
I just did a one hour show at the head of this table.
14:32
And, but I will say it was super fun and they were very reciprocal as an audience.
14:37
But my God, if I didn't have that in my back pocket of like having done parlor shows for two hours,
14:44
two hours, two years of doing these parlor shows for intimate groups,
14:49
I would, I would have, I would have shat bricks, but essentially I just did
14:54
all my roving routines, but I did all the extra.
14:57
I basically did what I would do for a three hour roving gig,
15:01
but for one hour, because it's the same audience, lots of riffing, lots of banter,
15:06
you know, lots of asking them questions to buy
15:09
up time and all those extra things that I keep in my pocket that I don't always
15:14
use like a fork I went into a you know full-on fork bending routine I normally
15:18
wouldn't do that all that kind of fun stuff all you know my five phases of a
15:22
rubber band routine and like all this stuff that's like gonna help use up the time.
15:27
Someone asked, did they not understand that it was a roving gig?
15:31
Yeah, I think still to this day, I'm surprised that people don't quite grasp
15:36
what roving is all the time, or they just are happy.
15:40
They think they're happy for me to rove around the table of 15 people,
15:44
and they're just going to let me figure it out.
15:47
So that will happen sometimes.
15:49
But fortunately, they had the best time of their lives, and that wasn't...
15:54
But it only happened once. Like in all of the gigs I did, that's the only time
15:58
that happened where someone wasn't sure what roving was.
16:01
And we ended up doing a one hour show for 15 people.
16:05
Yeah. It is remarkable how many folks don't understand what the roving game
16:08
is and how many times they've gone, I've got you a microphone. It's like, I'm roving.
16:13
No, not needed. It's okay. Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's, yeah.
16:19
And then when you explain to them, oh, that's such a better idea.
16:22
Yeah. That's what roving is.
16:24
I get it. it's okay for you to not know you're not in showbiz and you probably don't
16:27
get out much but like it's yeah it is one of those
16:30
things where to us it's just second nature but to
16:32
the consumer it's kind of hard to explain sometimes yeah
16:36
it's to the point now where i think i'm gonna have to make a
16:38
video that just dumbs down like a talking to
16:42
the camera thing that i can send to clients or
16:45
have on the roving page of their website like it just
16:48
really dumbs down what it is and what it isn't and
16:51
then show some video examples i think that's going to be it's a
16:55
good idea because putting it in text putting it in text
16:57
does not and it's not like yeah and i'm going to literally title it what is
17:03
roving magic you know yeah yeah and i might make a generic one so that magicians
17:07
can just use it to send to their clients when when people ask them what the
17:10
hell it is it's probably it's probably generally because what you know folks
17:15
confusing the word roving with roaming.
17:18
True. Yeah, true. I mean, I do think it is described very well on my website
17:24
what it is, but people will skim over that and they just see the price points.
17:29
They're like, we want him.
17:30
Oh, we can have him at this price. Let's just do that. And they just,
17:33
that's all the thought that goes into it.
17:35
This price for longer yeah yeah
17:39
yeah yeah that's right yeah 20 minutes for five
17:42
thousand dollars or one hour for two
17:46
thousand i'm just i'm inflating my prices here to sound cool
17:49
but essentially like yeah they're like oh yeah we'll pick the one
17:51
hour yeah yeah anyway no
17:55
nick it was any what what notable thing comes
17:58
to mind when you think of your christmas season man
18:02
there's two gigs that come to mind there's two
18:05
gigs that come to mind one was at the mantra which was a brand new venue built
18:08
in the middle of epping now epping is a bit of a rough area that i grew
18:11
up in and it was a had 250 people
18:14
at this event but 130 of them were outside smoking cigarettes just yeah they
18:20
were all like it beautiful venue beautiful cars everywhere there was like a
18:25
g-wagon brabus dude it's like a million dollar car like just sitting there like
18:29
This place just reeked money,
18:31
but didn't exude class by any means.
18:34
Because again, northern suburbs where I grew up, rough, rough neighborhood.
18:39
And great people, great fun. But this particular, I don't want to mention the
18:44
company or anything, right?
18:45
But pretty, pretty decent sort of industry that they're in.
18:50
And everyone's trying to smoke a cigarette because they don't want to be inside.
18:54
Because the CEO had the microphone and was just loving the sound of his own voice.
19:01
And it was dance music, and they were just doing their thing,
19:04
but he had the microphones. He was trying to get up and dance and singing into it.
19:08
And I rocked up, found the person who booked me. And it's so funny because I
19:12
remember I rocked up this couple,
19:13
And I was like, they'll just like arms cross the back of the room.
19:16
Like, I can't believe we got to deal with this. And I was like,
19:19
they're like, they found me and I was like, Hey, and I was like,
19:21
I'm looking for this person. And they're like, Oh, that's her there.
19:24
And then I went to, Oh, do you want us to shut this down so you can go on stage? I'm like, no, I don't.
19:28
Cause that's not what you paid for. I'm out of here.
19:32
And it was a, it was actually a gig, a filling gig for an agency who called me and said.
19:38
This particular performer screwed up and
19:41
and i'm i need you to bail me out can you
19:44
please find me someone for this much money and i was like nobody's going
19:47
to want to go that far out of town or out of the sort
19:50
of the city to do this gig at that right that rate
19:53
but i i agreed to do it to help them out so i really
19:56
appreciate you uh covering that gig for me yeah you're welcome buddy
19:59
yeah i was busy performing for 15 people
20:02
for an hour and then
20:05
the other gig the other gig i did was the
20:08
very first agency i worked for they're called applause entertainment they are
20:11
a great great bunch of people and in fact as well
20:14
yes all right gang signs
20:17
and i did a gig with those folks folks on
20:21
a boat and thankfully i try
20:24
not to be the guy that like controls everything at a gig
20:27
that is like professionals for that but thank goodness i did because i
20:29
would have been in one of those situations where i got in the boat and then they
20:32
dumped me an hour and a half drive away and been
20:35
like oh just a one-way trip three years later i'm like no no no
20:38
we're parked we're parked back where we came from
20:41
so thank goodness i mediated all that and got it all done but
20:43
the point was that it was myself and drunk santa like bad santa and santa got
20:51
santa got seemingly inverted commas drunk shit-faced if you will and it was
20:59
it was because he's actually so good at acting.
21:03
Drunk that everyone thought he was drunk but he
21:06
generally wasn't drunk he was like he had all these bottles of whiskey
21:09
but they were all filled with tea that he had
21:12
made so but and he was chugging it and drinking away but he was active so like
21:18
we're on there for a couple hours i think it was and he just progressively got
21:21
more and more drunk and he's wearing a santa suit while doing his thing and
21:25
the funniest thing was that like his pants just kept falling down at the most perfect time.
21:31
Like like he just like we're doing his thing and then
21:34
all of a sudden his pants would just fall down like just just by themselves
21:37
like just by nature like the way that the costume was the pants
21:40
just kept falling down but they kept falling
21:43
down at the most perfect comical moment and everyone was just losing it there
21:48
was only about 100 people on this on this boat is this this charter it was loose
21:53
as anything and then after that like you know we got dressed and got off the
21:55
boat and he was sober as a judge but everyone was like worried about it because
21:58
he was that good at acting,
22:01
drunk like it was it was quite fun and so i was
22:04
like a magical elf to do my thing
22:07
and entertain people and then we had like mrs claus
22:10
who was trying to keep him in order and it was just funny as i were doing really
22:13
silly stuff we had like fake bags of cocaine to try getting to sober
22:16
up and all kinds of stuff like it was yeah yeah it was
22:19
it was really really wild but that was probably one
22:21
of the most fun ones i've done that at this over
22:25
the period like it was fun like it was
22:27
really good hiring a drunk santa or to get drunk yeah
22:31
and then he's drinking with everyone but he's pouring real drinks in theirs and
22:34
he's drinking just tea with everyone else everyone was like i'm getting drunk
22:37
with santa like it was really fun really so clever yeah that's so clever is
22:42
there a is there a market for the drunk magician we joked we joked about that
22:48
doing a show where like every time we do a thing we got to take a shot so that by the end of the show.
22:54
Were tanked and it could be like every time
22:57
you say a stock line you take a shot or every time you do a trick you
23:00
take a shot or you know like it's got like just you
23:02
make like a drinking game so there's someone we we played with for a while
23:05
uh because you know in i'm
23:09
sure there's to it everywhere but in brisbane there was a really popular shakespeare
23:14
play uh where i don't know the name of it now but essentially the cast were
23:19
drunk so the idea is you would come and watch a Shakespeare play while all the
23:25
actors are legitimately wasted.
23:28
Interesting. And it was so funny that it played five nights a week in...
23:33
And like was a sellout it was like honestly we're
23:37
at the theater of magic we were sitting back going how the hell is a drunk play
23:41
selling so many tickets every week but it did so well and i wonder if people
23:49
would pay to see the late night version of maybe even the same show but just while,
23:56
you're actually hammered like how much money would you pay to watch penn and
24:00
teller do their theatre show,
24:03
but actually wasted. I think that would be quite funny, you know?
24:07
Because you're not going to put up with as much when people heckle.
24:10
You're going to forget some stuff.
24:12
You're going to maybe drop a few coins that you're not meant to. It's kind of funny.
24:18
Interesting. Interesting thought, man. You know, one of my favorite shows is
24:22
Drunk History, because I love history.
24:25
And it's basically they have a presenter who will tell a story from history,
24:29
but get absolutely plastered before telling it. You guys should scope it out. I think it's on Prime.
24:34
It's worth scoping out. If not, there's tons of episodes on YouTube,
24:37
but I think it's totally worth it.
24:38
So circling back to gig stories, we have two nominations for the best gig story of 2025.
24:48
Nomination number one goes to Patton Gillian, our friend from Las Vegas,
24:52
in which he told a story where he was performing at a private function for what
24:57
seemingly was for the Russian mafia and ended up being a pretty wonderful experience for himself.
25:03
Outside of that, there is another nominee, which is our friend April Choi.
25:09
Now, April Choi, our friend from NASA and also absolute genius cardsmith and
25:16
memory worker and everything else that she does because she's a superstar,
25:20
was telling a story on which she was performing at a convention.
25:24
And whilst practicing her whip routine, the cracking of the whip was so loud
25:30
that it was mistaken for gunshots. And the police actually arrived at the venue
25:35
mistakenly thinking that it was her.
25:38
So we have effectively Patton Gillian doing a The Machine Russian Mafia performance
25:45
versus April Troy mistaken John Wick experience.
25:49
The winner of the 2025 best gig story is Patton Gillian.
26:03
Yeah and gillian you are also now an award-winning magician congratulations,
26:11
and please accept nothing from us yeah as a token of appreciation yeah the award
26:16
means nothing it's it's like how your ex is doing doesn't mean anything just
26:21
doesn't matter not one bit so,
26:24
next one the next thing we'll
26:27
we'll save that one for last okay the next thing is best interview
26:31
now we've had a lot of interviews over this season in
26:34
fact one of the one of the most humbling things i found and
26:37
i think that josh and i will attest to this is that like we we do definitely
26:39
prospect and ask a lot of folks to be on our show but and i say this because
26:45
i give you guys the listeners the credit because it's gotten to the point now
26:48
where when we do ask people and they do agree to be on the show they actually
26:52
say what do they say josh what,
26:56
christopher wayne distracted me he was saying okay what they actually say is
26:59
they go oh i I was waiting for you to ask me.
27:02
I've been waiting. I've been waiting for you to ask me to be on the show.
27:04
And it's like, why don't you just say?
27:06
What would have put you on the show? That's right. That's right.
27:09
Where, you know, it's an open door. If you're very, very successful,
27:13
won awards, we watch you on social media.
27:17
We love having our friends come on. And yeah, you're right. It's just a matter
27:20
of like, it's like that weird thing where you don't want to ask your friend
27:22
a favor, but like they want to.
27:25
And, and so eventually you ask them and they're like, why didn't I do this?
27:28
You know, four years ago.
27:30
200 episodes ago. Yeah. Now, for the best interview of 2025, we have three nominees.
27:37
The first one is Dennis Kim. Dennis Kim, who is also known as a consultant for
27:44
the amazing Dan White, and in my opinion, probably responsible for everything amazing he has to do.
27:48
He produced one of the most amazing bits of online content for the FISM competition
27:53
in which everything was done in reverse. And if you recall, he did the entire
27:57
episode, the entire interview.
28:00
Against a mirror in revert wild and
28:03
pulled the pulled the crap out of us yeah especially
28:07
if you listen to that on spotify you just would have no
28:10
idea yeah yeah because it was
28:12
audio only you know nick yeah they couldn't see
28:15
him but but i couldn't believe
28:18
it i almost ended the because he waited
28:21
till the very end in the final word
28:24
and like for those listening i'm just
28:27
waiting with my finger on a button to hit the end
28:30
stinger and whenever i think he's finished talking
28:34
is when i'm going to hit end i almost ended the podcast before
28:37
he revealed that he was talking to
28:40
a mirror it was like that's how fooled i was and
28:43
just thought he was just ending with you know just a casual yeah
28:46
bit of advice crazy commitment he got
28:49
us good he got us so good now outside of that
28:52
we have franco pascali he he got
28:55
a lot of love in that episode and i can what did you and the thing is like that
29:01
interview was so great but sitting opposite him just in conversation without
29:06
a pack of playing cards is literally one of the most wonderful things you can
29:10
experience as well like it really it's really staggering how good he is.
29:15
In all facets of of thought and
29:19
like the depth of thought that guy has not just with magic but
29:22
everything he's just he's such a dude is
29:25
what i have to say so it was a very well
29:27
received episode and he got a ton of votes
29:30
as a result so outside of that is uk's
29:34
very own daredevil jonathan goodwin who hadn't done an abundance of interviews
29:39
since the unpleasantness of his accident but And we were celebrating the release
29:43
of his book where he shared a lot of his stunts and all the information he's
29:48
gathered over the years on his – and he held back nothing in that book. It is worth every penny.
29:54
It's as big as an atlas, and it's like the thickness of a Bible.
29:57
And it is just – it's phenomenal.
30:00
I think it's one of my favorite books I've read this year. So to reiterate,
30:04
we have Dennis Kim fooling the crap out of us.
30:07
We have Franco Pascali sharing a wealth of knowledge. And we also have Jonathan
30:12
Goodwin sharing his amazing wealth of knowledge and kindness.
30:17
And the winner is, by the smallest of margins, Dennis Kim.
30:27
Oh, yeah.
30:30
One of the guys is saying that every time he sees him up on his feet,
30:33
he thinks it's Cillian Murphy, which is pretty funny.
30:36
Yeah. Who? Franco. Yeah.
30:40
So funny yeah Frango and Dennis just two very charming handsome looking gents
30:46
you know I think that if he I think if them two and maybe Blaise Sierra had
30:52
a baby it'd be staggering,
30:55
there's so much wrong with that but yes
30:59
yes yes yes franco it's
31:03
so funny how laid back franco is like he's
31:06
so in depth about his magic but he's so laid back as
31:09
a person like he'll just go with the flow you know
31:11
like when we were in vegas he's just like sitting down jamming
31:15
all day in the bar he's like whatever yeah i'll have some tequila like yeah
31:18
let's let's riff about a certain type of effect oh yeah i'll show
31:20
you something and just fries us for five minutes then he'll
31:24
like watch someone else then he'd be like that's great you know
31:27
very very thoughtful but also just like whatever you
31:30
know doesn't put out any of the clips that
31:33
would make him blow up even more where he's you know
31:36
teaching brad pitt to do magic for the
31:39
movie and i saw a clip pop up where it's like one
31:42
of the girls from what's the movie called nick a movie oh my god it was on the
31:48
tip of my tongue the fuck the singing movie that's so stupid that i'm not oh
31:54
you're thinking you're thinking the wicked movie no someone's gonna put it in
31:58
the comments before us because we're stupid.
32:02
The acapella groups. Come on. Come on, people of the internet.
32:05
Screams? Not Glee. Oh, this is getting worse by the second.
32:09
I'm going to get a phone call from Christopher Wayne. I'm normally really good
32:11
at this. It's goddamn blah, blah, blah. And the recent movie?
32:15
Oh, my God. Pitch Perfect. Thank you, Magic of Seth. Oh, God,
32:19
I was going to have an aneurysm.
32:21
So one of the actresses of Pitch Perfect went to see a show of Freka Biscali,
32:28
and then she she raved about
32:30
it on morning tv about having gone to see franco show like what a review to
32:36
have someone use their time on national tv to start by talking about your show
32:40
yeah insane that's just to say how good he is and yeah you know you would almost assume that like,
32:48
with the amount of success and talent he has he's this like extreme go-getter
32:53
like this like this Tony Robbins level, like go getter, like just like obsessive, but the guy's so chill.
33:00
Like, yes, it's phenomenal.
33:03
Yeah, indeed. Yeah. So credit to him and also well done to Dennis Kim,
33:08
I think a well-deserved winner of that award.
33:11
So a round. Okay.
33:15
So as you know, we do a whole very vast range of different types of episodes,
33:20
one of which is the history lesson. So we have a couple of nominees for the best history lesson.
33:27
It was a very, very close, close battle. The two episodes nominated for.
33:34
Best history lesson are the episode on the amazing Kreskin, being one of the
33:42
leading mentalists of our time who sadly passed away within this year.
33:47
And so we paid homage to that amazingly talented person responsible for so many
33:52
wonderful facets in mentalism,
33:54
most notably the ability to take his paycheck and hide it within a studio or
34:01
theater and just using the Jedi force, for lack of a better word,
34:06
being able to find where that was actually hidden within the venue.
34:11
So he left an amazing legacy behind as a result of that. So power to him.
34:17
The second and final nominee is the Christmas Magic Kid episode,
34:21
where we talked about the mythology of where, as we said in the episode,
34:27
where magic begins for a lot of us, And it obviously begins for some generation
34:33
of kids and professionals alike,
34:35
the magic kit being their very first kit they got for Christmas.
34:37
And so we spoke about how that began and to where it is today.
34:41
And it was a great episode because Doug had so many examples of those in the
34:45
shop, which he shared live on that episode. So if you haven't seen it,
34:48
by all means, check it out.
34:49
So we have two nominees, the Amazing Kreskin and the Christmas magic kit episode.
34:55
And the winner by only one vote.
34:58
Is The Amazing Kreskin.
35:04
I just want to point out that Nick writes both of these, writes all the history episodes.
35:10
So, you know, well done. Nick was going to win either way, really.
35:13
But it was the people's choice.
35:16
Well, like, they're both episodes that you wrote because you write all the history episodes.
35:20
I write them to share them, but I didn't vote for them. Everyone votes for them.
35:24
Yeah, but you did decide to include it as a category. I'm just saying, you know.
35:28
Well, but it is true. You want to do an award show, right?
35:32
You can make up your own awards. You can do, you know what? Why don't you,
35:35
let's do one for next year. And it'll be which host has the best hair. Go.
35:41
That's going to be tricky. No, it'll be like, which intro to the podcast has
35:46
been the best over the year?
35:48
And it'll be like, oh, the one where Josh was singing.
35:51
Or is it the one where Josh was dancing? Because I intro the episodes.
35:56
It would be pretty upset if I won one because I've only ever like intruded two
36:00
episodes you'd be pretty upset you'd be like the one that Nick K did that one time,
36:04
I'd be like this is I've had enough you're already copying my hairstyle and
36:09
now you want to fucking come and take my awards,
36:13
that's true yeah no that's true we are actually the same person that's right
36:18
this is just we could share we're gonna do the mirror reveal right now here we go.
36:25
Like look at that like right now our heads our heads are almost the same size
36:29
on camera so like we almost do look the same my head looks a little bit more
36:34
yellow because there's a bit of saturation in my camera i guess but i'm gonna
36:38
get that looked at anyway.
36:42
Speaking of episodes I'm responsible for, let's talk about, let's talk about
36:45
the best educational episodes.
36:47
So we do some educational episodes where we have talked about things in the
36:51
past, like which routine should be, you know, retired.
36:56
That was probably one of my favorite episodes from the year before.
36:59
We had a whole abundance of them.
37:00
Now there's two that are up for nomination this year for the best educational episode.
37:04
I was actually staggered by
37:06
these results, but the two that were nominated were the preparation list.
37:10
So on episode 244, we'd had a whole episode about how to prepare for the crazy
37:16
Christmas period that we've all just gone through over the month of November and December.
37:20
And I, that episode was literally so good and so filled with knowledge that
37:25
I implore anyone who is looking at getting into magic to revisit that one,
37:30
like every year, just to recap the things you should be doing in preparation for that.
37:33
And I was literally getting texts and phone calls from friends who listened
37:36
to the episode going, man, that episode helped me so much get prepared for the crazy season.
37:42
So I thought it was a show-in for that reason. But there was another nomination,
37:47
which was purely based off scenarios. And the episode was number 218.
37:54
And it was titled, What Would You Do?
37:58
Stressful Magician Scenarios. And effectively, it was a, what would you do if this happened?
38:05
And what would you do if that happened so it wasn't it's always
38:08
scenarios that we'd have actually experienced in our day-to-day or normal performing
38:14
life but it was certain scenarios that if they were to happen how would you
38:18
handle it so those were the two episodes that we had and again winning by a single vote.
38:30
The winner is what would you do stressful
38:33
stressful stressful magician scenarios episode
38:37
number two one eight i was actually staggered
38:40
by that yeah yeah
38:44
okay interesting i guess i guess
38:47
when you think about it that is the more crucial
38:50
thing to be able to fix in it like if something goes wrong as
38:53
opposed to like preparing perhaps but
38:57
it's interesting yeah both episodes are
39:00
going to super help you the christmas gig preparing one
39:03
honestly is something you can listen to at any
39:06
point in the year because it's things that should be
39:09
considered all the time and yeah
39:13
same with uh what should you do with yeah and
39:17
i think that it's and it's also pretty hard to think on
39:20
your feet and sometimes preparing for what
39:24
could possibly go wrong is equally as important
39:27
as actually preparing to ensure it doesn't happen at all yeah i
39:31
actually we actually had a what would you do if speakpipe
39:35
come in and oh yeah i
39:38
wasn't really gonna play it because it did sound it's a bit off topic but should
39:43
we do a little what would you do with right now should we sure man we got we
39:46
got time there's only three or four more awards to go so we may as well okay
39:50
hell yeah well look i'll just say it because it's it's a pretty straightforward
39:53
one our friend adam he sent in a.
39:58
He inadvertently swatted a wasp at an outdoor event into, he's saying girl,
40:05
but I'm hoping he's meaning a woman.
40:08
Anyway, he accidentally swatted a wasp mid-performance into someone else and
40:14
it stung them, like the spectator.
40:17
So you've essentially had a wasp flying around you, you've swatted it into the
40:21
spectator and they've gotten stung and then you're just left with like,
40:27
what do you do? And he was like really dumbfounded.
40:30
He's like, you know, I tried to offer them like, can I show you another trick
40:33
to make you feel better? Like, no, I'm fucking stung, you idiot.
40:36
And so, yeah, what do you do?
40:40
Buddy, that is so crazy. Like, yeah, like that is unlucky.
40:46
That is just 50 kinds of unlucky.
40:50
And they can't be blaming Adam, could they?
40:55
Oh, it says, yeah, that one was mine. This is worse. That one was mine.
40:58
She was like five or six. Oh, crap. There is no consoling.
41:02
Adam. Yeah. Adam, just for clarification, just for clarification,
41:07
did she get stung or did the wasp just like hit her and fly away?
41:13
Because that would also freak them out. But it sounded like they got stung.
41:17
But let's run with the stinging scenario, right? Right. Yeah.
41:21
Great. You're all the families around and you're trying to win them over by
41:25
like impressing this little girl.
41:27
And then you swat a wasp into her face and he's saying, I'm pretty sure she got stung.
41:34
Now you're the enemy of like everyone there.
41:37
For that moment, it's going to feel like it. It's not your fault.
41:40
It's like in the cartoons, you know, in the cartoons where like he goes up to
41:42
a beehive and he puts all the bees in his mouth and gets a pipe and he spits
41:46
pipes like a, like a semi-automatic weapon.
41:48
Like it wasn't that kind of scenario. It wasn't done with malice,
41:52
but I can appreciate, I think this is what I think. I think that nobody is actively
41:56
going to be mad at you for what happened, what transpired.
42:00
But what I do think is the fact that you feel so bad about it,
42:04
Adam, just speaks volumes to the lovely, caring character that you are.
42:09
And so it's okay to feel bad about it. And I don't even know how to combat that.
42:15
I'm not going to say, like, you can't prevent that. Like, what do you do?
42:19
Like, you just, before every outdoor show, I spray all children with AeroGuard.
42:23
Like, what are you supposed to do, bud?
42:25
Yeah. I mean, look, some measures you could take is number one,
42:30
take some tennis lessons, learn how to swat away from spectators, like SWAT 101.
42:37
Like don't, if it's here, don't go like this towards the girl, right?
42:42
I think that's like pretty obvious, but you know, they, the girl still could
42:45
have gotten stung, but that's obviously number one.
42:48
Try and SWAT away from the little kids.
42:51
SWAT. Right. repeat everyone swat away from the little kids okay yeah and then
42:56
i think you just have to go into first aid mode right like.
43:01
Be like, where's the parent? Look, she's accidentally gotten stung by a wasp.
43:05
Don't believe anything she says. I'm going to go get her some ice from the kitchen.
43:09
Like, I think you just have to do a duty of care kind of thing now.
43:12
Like, just stop being a magician for a sec.
43:14
Like, make sure they're okay. And then I guess, I'm just trying to think what the hell.
43:19
I guess what I would do is after the gig, like the next day,
43:25
maybe I send a little care package to the girl.
43:29
Like a like a you know hope you're okay like you know maybe there's a toy in
43:34
it like i don't know maybe it's magical related or maybe it's not or something
43:37
you know just something to be like.
43:39
Leave a good feeling you have a stingos spray
43:42
you ever use that it's like a stingos spray it's like
43:45
you ever seen it no yeah yeah
43:48
dragoteer saying lucky ladybug but
43:51
the wasp version ah wow
43:58
do scholar i got an idea that's
44:02
so funny that is very funny yeah yeah
44:05
that's just super unlucky it's just it's just it's one of
44:08
those times where sometimes things just happen where there's
44:11
no like funny remark or thing to
44:14
get out of it you just you just you got to deal with it you know like if a break
44:18
fights out at a gig um great fights is that what i said if a break that's exactly
44:24
what you said well i'm just i'm trying to get drunk to start that idea of performing
44:30
this is the podcasting drunk.
44:33
Yeah, if a fight breaks out, that's going to be awkward and you're just going to have to stop.
44:38
I love watching Jimmy Carr has a lot of clips where things actually happen in
44:44
the audience and he has to stop the show to sort them out.
44:47
And sometimes you just got to break character and just fucking sort it out.
44:51
And I think that's the only way around it. Yeah, it's going to be uncomfortable, but that's it.
44:57
Yeah, that's going to happen. But look, again, you know, we have these fun stories
45:01
because you guys contribute to
45:02
them. And one of our great contributors is responsible for our next award.
45:06
So the next award is Green Rooms.
45:09
For those of you that don't know, we have a Discord, which this is where we're
45:13
collating all this data and getting our votes from.
45:16
Now, in amongst that, we have a separate channel dedicated to our good friend, Drago Tier 1.
45:22
And what we do is we post every time we are at a event and we have basically
45:29
either really good or really ordinary green room that we have to perform out of.
45:35
And our good friend Dragoteer will actually judge out of 10 your green rooms.
45:43
And so he actually put a full PowerPoint presentation together for this award.
45:49
And so it's only, it basically sparked the whole intention of us doing this award.
45:54
This was the first one ever done. I was like, well, if Nick's going to put the
45:57
effort in, Nick being Dragoteer, I guess that I'm going to have to put some
46:00
effort in and do a whole awards episode.
46:03
So let me see. This is my first time doing this type of thing with the,
46:07
the StreamYard. So thank you for your kindness as I pull this together.
46:10
But as you can see, we have top three best and worst green rooms of 2025 by Drago Tear, aka Nick.
46:18
So I need to make this bigger so I can see it. Okay, here we go.
46:23
Submitted by Tim Raymond.
46:24
It's for the listeners of the pod. It's a full-size basketball court from about quarter court.
46:31
That's your green room. that's it's enormous and
46:35
i think that's third best by the
46:38
looks of it uh the next slide was submitted by sideways
46:41
simon uh this is uh the third worst it's
46:45
there's too much wood panel it's effectively imagine a
46:50
beaver made a green room that is effectively what
46:53
you guys are looking at in the corner there is what looks like to
46:56
be a coffee machine and a soap dispenser but that
46:58
is about it so that is the third worst second best
47:02
was submitted by scotty p which is actually
47:05
a green cricket slash afl
47:09
oval which appears to be his green room
47:12
so thank you for a lot of green yeah it's
47:15
gone for the nature green yeah the
47:20
second worst submitted by nick k it was
47:23
it was actually it was i remember this gig
47:25
well it was an office that was just
47:29
had crap littered everywhere but in the corner was
47:32
this this monstera plant that would just look so dilapidated like it hadn't
47:38
seen a drink of water in 6 000 years to the point i actually ended up ordering
47:41
it myself and this one is titled number second worst uh poor plant as done by
47:47
nick so yeah now let's go to our.
47:50
Best green room. The best green room was again submitted by me, Nick K.
47:55
Everything was green at this room to the point where it had green carpets,
47:59
green chairs, green painted walls, and was actually on a golf course right next
48:04
to the green on holes four and five.
48:07
So it couldn't really get much greener than that. So that was a full 10 for myself.
48:11
And the first worst was actually
48:15
submitted by myself but from a buddy of mine who was doing
48:17
a show his name is felix and this
48:21
photograph is a disabled toilet that it's
48:25
it's it's pretty yeah in the
48:28
comments there's a lot of folks like why what
48:32
was the decision the artistic decision to actually
48:35
spread the cards out on your pop-up table while the
48:39
like while you're in there the toilet
48:42
doesn't even have a foot down cover it's just
48:45
open to the elements where that card
48:48
could that's just so many questions but i
48:51
love how well he packed all of his
48:54
stuff to the side is that his stuff on the side
48:57
or is that you know what buddy i don't know but it's
49:00
in a cardboard box and i don't imagine yeah and it looks almost surgical i say
49:06
that because it looks like when you watch the movies and there's like a nursery
49:11
and then you have that baby like on that little trolley on a plastic thing and
49:16
it's like that's what it looks like in there.
49:19
I'm sure those cards are centered now I think so too Adam that is.
49:25
I guess that is the place where you would do,
49:29
deck pick you know yeah yeah so and of course the presentation finishes by saying
49:35
ski later for my friend dragoteer so thank you dragoteer that is yeah buddy yeah.
49:44
And i'd just like to circle back to my comedy gold of saying a deck pick i mean you know that was,
49:50
top tier he was in a toilet there's a deck spread out
49:52
you know deck pick anyway i would win an award
49:55
for that if it was for worse puns but it's not
49:58
in the discord so okay next one
50:01
two awards but anyway we'll move on well don't
50:04
be don't be jealous okay next award there's
50:07
only a couple more to go the next one is the magic guys trick of
50:10
the year so it is a trick that we've either seen saw a magic life tinkered with
50:15
but it has been released in the year of 2025 there are three nominations for
50:20
this one the first one is eject released by our good friends from trick boom
50:24
it It is Sharpie Pen Launcher. It is sick.
50:28
So that is nominee number one. Secondly is the Inversion Board by Patata.
50:34
I actually got an email today saying that they are now releasing a different version of that.
50:39
So the Inversion Board is effectively a reverse impression pad in which you
50:44
can have things sent to it.
50:47
So let's just say that I write something down and I say, Josh, name any...
50:54
Basketball team and then you say it and then i can then go
50:57
to the inversion board and written in chalk inverted
51:01
commas i turned it around and it is written there so
51:04
there is a whole series of awesomeness you can have i actually
51:07
purchased one myself for a particular routine that i'm
51:09
working on so it is it is
51:12
a good bit of kit and oh and also because i like i've
51:15
ditched like all my whiteboard stuff and i'm going full chalk because of
51:19
the vintage notion that that the theater of magic has
51:22
it's a very vintage experience and we're trying to give people the old
51:25
style thing so big fan of the inversion board with that
51:27
being said it's a chalk baby yeah yeah
51:30
buddy but i bring that up because just today they've released a
51:34
blackboard version that does the same thing but it is actually
51:37
like a whiteboard sorry a
51:39
whiteboard version that does the same sort of thing where you can have images
51:43
and things sent to it so so you can tailor your
51:46
routines now depending on yeah yeah and
51:49
it's cheaper because it's cheaper to manufacture because the inversion
51:53
boards like crafted from wood and like quite a
51:56
bit of work goes into it so it's like nearly half the price like it's insanely
52:00
good for for the money and then so we have the eject launching sharpie we have
52:05
the inversion board by pitada and lastly we have the greek peak wallet which
52:09
i also have it is a really really good piece of uh mentalism uh apparatus so the ability to.
52:17
Write a prediction down pop it in the wallet and get a peek it is really really
52:23
good of all the versions i've seen to be able to do it this is this is by far
52:27
the best so those are the three things that were nominated by a single vote.
52:32
Looks like it yeah by a single vote the winner is the inversion board by patata which i was,
52:41
it's bagged by considering how expensive it is hmm
52:45
yeah i mean personally i will say i've
52:48
been using the ejects at
52:50
every single stage show i've been doing and it's been
52:53
just so fun to have that bit of extra stuff and
52:57
i just i want to buy a few i
53:00
want to have like multiple of them you know like that's how much i love
53:03
them yeah whereas you know
53:06
the inversion board is some crazy shit right that's some crazy stuff there's
53:11
something to be said at least the reason why i don't delve into that realm is
53:15
because you know we were at magic live and i won't bring up the company because
53:20
you know shit happens sometimes but like they were demoing a piece of electronic mentalism,
53:26
and it's very expensive but it can
53:29
do some crazy stuff doing a demonstration and he's
53:32
like and now if you turn it over it'll say that blah blah blah and i turned
53:36
it over and it didn't say it and he's like oh oh there's just a connectivity
53:40
issue in here that's all but like it like it will work and i'm like i used you
53:44
can't base saying it will will work when you're here demoing to me that it will
53:50
work and saying, this is $5,000.
53:53
I'm sorry, this will never go in my act. And it's unfortunate that it didn't work for me, but like.
54:00
I just can't risk that, you know? So like, there's something to be said about
54:04
like the Greek wallet, for example.
54:06
I love that you can, it's based on your handling and like, you're in control
54:12
of it, I guess is what I'm saying.
54:14
Yeah, there's two peaks of that nature that I've been tinkering with.
54:18
One's by Mark Lemon, the Iadelic Peak, I think it's called, using the technology
54:24
that's based on your phone and a little apparatus that sticks to the back of it.
54:28
Really clever bit of kit, genius. for the money like
54:31
it's crazy good like as opposed to getting
54:34
a technical impression pad or anything
54:36
of that nature so yeah it is it is a good bit of kit and herbert good to see
54:42
you buddy glad you made it so we have two more awards to go and a few minutes
54:47
in the episode so i was actually staggered by uh the result of this one i'm
54:50
very happy about the result but the last two uh awards are here we go.
54:55
For second last week, let's go with this. Let's go with the Magic Guys book
54:59
of the year. As you guys know, I'm an avid reader of all magic books.
55:03
And there's certain a few that were released this year that really struck a
55:07
chord with me, and which I put out to everyone else and asked,
55:09
hey, what else do you guys are in for?
55:12
And we came down to these three books released this year.
55:15
The first one was Strolling for
55:17
Dollars by Jason Bode. We had him on an episode talking about the book.
55:22
He shared an absolute wealth of knowledge on the episode, and I can only assume
55:27
there's even more knowledge within the pages of his book.
55:30
Secondly, we have The Practice Playbook by Eric.
55:35
That was probably one of my favorites this year, most definitely.
55:38
One of my top two, for sure.
55:40
And we were in that book because previously, I think it was the year before,
55:45
where Eric Ewhouse ended up interviewing us, the Magic Guys,
55:49
on our very own show, and then asked us the questions, then put all that information into the book.
55:55
So I cannot recommend that book enough.
55:57
I think it's one of the most important books for any upcoming magician alongside
56:01
Maximum Entertainment.
56:03
So I think it is an absolute killer book. And the last book is In the Spotlight by Christopher Carter.
56:09
I'm going to reach out to that superstar and ask him if he will be on our show
56:14
because that book, it was definitely one of my most favorite books as far as
56:18
ideas and as far as mentalism go.
56:21
I don't love mentalism like everyone does, but I love how clever it is.
56:26
I think it's an absolute killer book.
56:29
So from the three that we have, we have Strolling for Dollars by Jason Bird,
56:34
which is about how to be a full-time magician in the strolling, roving realm.
56:39
Secondly, we have The Practice Playbook by Eric Uhaus, where there's an abundance
56:44
of different magicians, including Josh and myself, have been published in.
56:48
And last, we have In the Spotlight by Christopher Carter. And the winner is...
56:57
Practice playbook by eric you house.
57:03
Yeah so let me ask you this does that mean technically that award also goes
57:09
to us because we are featured in the book yeah it also goes to jeff mcbride
57:14
and micah po and sure sure sure yeah they're great too you know everyone else
57:18
was in it as well they made massive world influences on magic,
57:23
but we were also in the book for a short spot.
57:27
What I'm saying is, can I now put on my website that I'm an award-winning magician?
57:33
And when they say, what is the award?
57:35
I'm like, well, a book that was gifted on our podcast, the best book of the
57:39
year, was featured us in the content.
57:42
So the award went to us,
57:45
inadvertently. And therefore, that's why it says I'm an award-winning magician.
57:50
Anyway, look, that was really great. And I think we have time for one more.
57:53
So poetic that we get to the last award at the end of the episode.
57:58
That's right. It is the last episode of the year. And guys, it's been a good
58:02
year. It's been an absolute blast.
58:04
And I think that we've obviously achieved a lot in the past year.
58:07
We've just been doing what we love with the people we love doing it with.
58:11
And you guys have been along for the journey. We've set up some amazing friendships
58:14
and And we've set up, I think that we've established a really wonderful community
58:18
where we all hang out like, you know, I was in the discord after the episode last week.
58:22
And it's one of those things you tell yourself, I'll just kind of pop on for a half hour.
58:26
And then someone pops in and someone pops in. And then before you know it,
58:29
three and a half, four hours later, it's like time to go.
58:33
So it is, it is great. So after this episode, we will, I think I will endeavor
58:38
to make it a habit to have a little after party after every episode and hang
58:41
out there for at least a half hour.
58:43
So it's something that when we spoke about it
58:46
it added a lot of value to you guys to be able to
58:49
talk openly and obviously for us to sort of hear from
58:51
you guys directly as to what we should be doing to add
58:54
value to your magic lives so that was
58:57
one of the most important things so before we sign off a personal thank you
59:01
from me josh no i got nothing what's the award okay the award is i'm kidding
59:06
i'm kidding i'm kidding no it has been awesome like every year our community
59:12
gets better and this year,
59:15
I think we even saw, you know, thank you to FISM.
59:17
The, the award just allowed us to get into more ear holes, you know,
59:22
and we saw that when, even before that happened,
59:25
going to, oh no, it was after it happened, going to Vegas was so cool to,
59:29
to meet a lot of our fellow listeners
59:31
and just to see real people that are consuming it. And so that was dope.
59:35
And so, yeah, just thank you for this, like it.
59:39
There being a point to doing this you know because uh it ain't
59:42
for money you know what i mean but it is for the camaraderie
59:46
and just like knowing that we're spewing out some stuff that we've learned and
59:50
it's like helping you guys in some way that is honestly the the best and selfishly
59:57
i get a lot out of it too like it helps me practice my talking skills no i can't
1:00:03
get my words out now tearing up But, you know,
1:00:05
selfishly, it helps me work on my riffing ability and thinking of what I'm going
1:00:11
to say on the spot and interviewing people.
1:00:15
And same with Nick, you know, it's helped him with his writing skills and interviewing skills.
1:00:19
And like, like it honestly, it does help us in a way, but also like we just
1:00:23
get so much from seeing you guys grow and learn from it, too.
1:00:26
So that's all I have to say.
1:00:28
Yeah. Like one of my favorite things. I mean, I do a lot of research when it
1:00:31
comes to doing the history lessons and as well as that, our interviews.
1:00:35
And when I ask questions, my
1:00:36
favorite thing to hear is people when people say, that's a good question.
1:00:40
You know, it's like, yeah, that's what I'm aiming for. You know what I mean?
1:00:44
And Tim is correct. I thought it was for putting that to that to.
1:00:49
How did you go? Did you finish it?
1:00:52
No, no way. It's still in the fridge, actually, if anyone wants any.
1:00:55
But, and also thank you for those who weren't here last week,
1:00:59
our live viewers sent in, they door dashed Doug some pudding live on the air.
1:01:04
And I think that's hilarious. And I think that's honestly something we should
1:01:08
do more of because it's so funny.
1:01:14
All right, we have one last award. We do have one last award.
1:01:17
And I think in true fashion, the way we end every episode that we do,
1:01:22
almost every episode, is with the final word.
1:01:26
And that being said, these are the nominees for the best final word for 2025.
1:01:32
Our first nominee is the amazing Jeff Hobson. Now, Jeff Hobson was politely
1:01:37
just sharing some advice after a convention.
1:01:41
After a lecture. Yeah, a lecture. That's right. Yeah.
1:01:44
So Josh took it upon himself, had a nice conversation with him and he dispelled
1:01:47
some wisdom, some beautiful wisdom, which was shared on episode number 213.
1:01:52
So if you want to hear,
1:01:54
that final word. You can do that as well on that episode.
1:01:57
Jason Bird is our second nominee, who, as mentioned, wrote the Strolling for Dollars book.
1:02:03
And he, after sharing an abundance of wealth, departed the episode with some even wiser words.
1:02:10
And that is on episode number 238.
1:02:13
So you're welcome to scope out that one as well.
1:02:14
And then finally, we have the amazing John Armstrong, who was kind enough to come on our show.
1:02:23
Dispense boatloads of knowledge and wisdom to the point where he was kind enough
1:02:29
to sign some books for us, which I collected from Vegas, bless his heart.
1:02:34
His amazing book, How to Win. And that was on episode number 228.
1:02:39
And it certainly did have a big impact on you guys, the listeners,
1:02:42
because the winner of the best final word in 2025 is?
1:02:49
Or should we just play it? Should we just play it? And that's how we end the episode.
1:02:52
Well, it is no, we should say who it is in case like, whose voice was that?
1:02:56
Oh, that's a good point. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
1:02:59
The winner of the just because maybe Dylan wants to cut this little edit vocal
1:03:05
thing. So I'll say one more time. Get ready. Get ready.
1:03:07
And the winner of the best final word of 2025 is John Armstrong.
1:03:14
So go out there and do good magic, but mostly make people feel like they matter.