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24. What Miss Florida Taught Me About Money, Confidence & Taking Risks with Casana Fink · Talk Wealthy To Me

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Speaker 1: Let's know the welcome. Welcome, we Talk Wealthy to Me.
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Speaker 1: I'm Michelle Taylor, founder of Women and Well and wen
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Speaker 1: from breaking money myths to building wealth and achieving financial freedom.
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Speaker 1: We're here to empower you to create your own path.
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Speaker 1: Path you talk wealth. Now join the conversation and let's
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Speaker 1: change the way women think and feel about money. Are
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Speaker 1: you ready? Hi, everybody, Welcome back to the Talk Wealthy
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Speaker 1: to Me podcast. I'm Michelle Taylor, your host, and I
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Speaker 1: am so excited to have a special guest with us today.
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Speaker 1: Kasana Fink is a University of Florida graduate, current NBA Candidate,
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Speaker 1: Award winning advocate for organ donation, and Miss Florida of
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. After her father's life saving liver transplant,
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Speaker 1: she founded Give to Live, Donate Life at just fourteen
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Speaker 1: years old, launching a decade long mission to educate and
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Speaker 1: empower transplant patients and their families. She has since reached
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Speaker 1: over four hundred thousand individuals across Florida and authored The
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Speaker 1: Gift of Life, a children's book on donation now placed
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Speaker 1: in every county library in the state. Casana has served
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Speaker 1: as Chief operating Officer of more Transplants More Life, where
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Speaker 1: she worked to improve access, education, and equity in the
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Speaker 1: organ donation system. Her impact has earned her recognition as
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Speaker 1: Donate Life Florida's Ambassador of the Year and a nominee
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Speaker 1: for Donate Life America's Pinnacle Award. In addition to her
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Speaker 1: advocacy work, Casana is an entrepreneur and a business owner.
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Speaker 1: She is the founder of The Unverified, a fashion brand
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Speaker 1: rooted in resilience and individuality, built upon her studies at
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Speaker 1: the Condy Nast College of Fashion and Design in London.
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Speaker 1: Kasana's journey is proof that purpose and passion, when paired
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Speaker 1: with action, can spark change that touches lives far beyond
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Speaker 1: our own. Hi, everybody, I am so so excited for
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Speaker 1: this episode. I am joined today by the current Miss Florida,
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Speaker 1: Casana Fink. Welcome to this show.
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Speaker 2: Thank you. I'm so honored to be a part of this.
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Speaker 1: Well. I think we're all in for a treat because
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Speaker 1: you have done so much and so much good, and
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Speaker 1: I think that the story we're about to hear is
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Speaker 1: one that everyone will benefit from.
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Speaker 2: Thank you.
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Speaker 1: You're welcome. So first, tell us a little bit about
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Speaker 1: you and how you got here.
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Speaker 2: My little elevator pitch, Yeah, that I try to make short.
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Speaker 2: So I think it all starts when I was fourteen
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Speaker 2: years old, my dad was found unresponsive in our front lawn.
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Speaker 2: He was rushed to the hospital. We were told that
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Speaker 2: he would need a transplant, and that turned into a
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Speaker 2: year long journey in and out of the ICU. At
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Speaker 2: that time, my mom was working two jobs. She was
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Speaker 2: by his bedside every night. As a fourteen year old,
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Speaker 2: you think the world revolves around you. So I think
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Speaker 2: that was my first kind of entrance into reality. And
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Speaker 2: we also lost a soul or a income provider for
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Speaker 2: our house. And not only did that experience really show
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Speaker 2: me how life can change so quickly, but it also
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Speaker 2: showed me what it truly means to be an advocate
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Speaker 2: because my mom seeing that in certain areas of the hospital,
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Speaker 2: my dad wasn't receiving the best care. She was demanding
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Speaker 2: better care on the top floor with executives at the
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Speaker 2: hospital and saying that patients deserve to be treated better.
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Speaker 2: So not only was she representing him, but she was
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Speaker 2: representing every patient on his floor. And that's when, at fourteen,
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Speaker 2: I decided I wanted to do something as well. I
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Speaker 2: started a nonprofit give to Live amazing. Thank you. I
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Speaker 2: don't know if I knew what I truly was like
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Speaker 2: getting myself into I just remember my mom always had
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Speaker 2: a service heart, and I just wanted, I think, to
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Speaker 2: be more like her. And I started at my nonprofit
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Speaker 2: very quickly. I was thrown in front of my peers
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Speaker 2: to share about organ and tissue donation because it's really
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Speaker 2: one of those things until you are directly impacted by it,
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Speaker 2: you don't see the importance of it. And since then,
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Speaker 2: I've just continued to build upon that I am in
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Speaker 2: two years ago, so twenty twenty three, I was advocating
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Speaker 2: at Intellahassee for organ donation and trying to get some
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Speaker 2: legislation passed, and I was like, you know what, I think,
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Speaker 2: I'm kind of like decent at this. Maybe I'll be
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Speaker 2: a lobbyist. And someone put me in touch with a
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Speaker 2: longtime lobbyist double lung transplant recipient, and he basically talked
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Speaker 2: me out of being a lobbyist. He was like, you
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Speaker 2: do not want to do this, but he asked if
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Speaker 2: I would head operations that is nonprofit. This is something
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Speaker 2: I'd been doing for years, but I think as a
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Speaker 2: woman sometimes self doubt creeps in and I just was like,
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Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm your girl, Like I don't
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Speaker 2: know if I'll be able to do what you're asking.
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Speaker 2: But for a year and a half, like we developed
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Speaker 2: out six programs from a podcast that you could share
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Speaker 2: with patients about the inner workings of waiting for a
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Speaker 2: transplant after transplant, to building bridges between marginalized communities and
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Speaker 2: healthcare providers, everything work with different communities so that they
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Speaker 2: could trust healthcare. We just wanted everyone to know what
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Speaker 2: organ donation was before they're sitting at the bedside of
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Speaker 2: a loved one having to make that decision on the
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Speaker 2: hardest day of their life. And that was such a
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Speaker 2: beautiful journey. When I was at Miss America this year,
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Speaker 2: though he did get an infection in his lungs and
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Speaker 2: ended up passing away, he was the best boss in
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Speaker 2: the world and I tell everyone that. But he also
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Speaker 2: really showed me that no task is too big and
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Speaker 2: if you take every win by the one percent rule
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Speaker 2: of every day, if you're one percent closer, that's what
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Speaker 2: you need to focus on. Not looking at this mountain
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Speaker 2: saying how could I ever climb this? And so I
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Speaker 2: really integrate that into everything that I do. Now I'm
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Speaker 2: a University of Florida graduate. Go Gators. I'm graduating with
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Speaker 2: my master's in business this fall. I studied at Contenast
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Speaker 2: College in London, lived in New York, worked in fashion
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Speaker 2: for a while. I know this is kind of all
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Speaker 2: over the place.
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Speaker 1: But what a life it means.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been amazing, and especially being Miss Florida, I
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Speaker 2: say I've lived a thousand lives because every day it
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Speaker 2: was so important for me to say yes to things
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Speaker 2: and show up. And when you do those things, it
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Speaker 2: completely transforms your life. So that's my elevator pitch. I
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Speaker 2: might have forgotten something, but it's been crazy.
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Speaker 1: That was perfect. So I think that what you did
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Speaker 1: at such a young age showed that you were a
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Speaker 1: perfect person in personality to have a platform to reach
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Speaker 1: people like Miss Florida and also to be an entrepreneur,
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Speaker 1: because the one thing that's kind of tricky to teach
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Speaker 1: is the grit and tenacity it takes to just jump in.
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Speaker 1: And it sounds like you started showing that at fourteen.
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Speaker 1: And if I was sitting here with your mom, she'd
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Speaker 1: probably say that it was when you were five.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely was a little bit of a crazy child.
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Speaker 2: She'd probably say that too, But I think there does
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Speaker 2: have to be a sense of you can't think too
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Speaker 2: much about it because that'll paralyze you. And I did
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Speaker 2: do that. I did teen for three years. So Miss
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Speaker 2: Florida's tea kind of prepares you, but it allows you
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Speaker 2: to win scholarship dollars. So when my dad got sick,
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Speaker 2: they were like, well, you gotta find money or you're
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Speaker 2: not going to college. And I did that, and then
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Speaker 2: I took a long break until I finally felt that
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Speaker 2: I was ready to compete as a miss from Miss Florida.
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Speaker 2: But the truth is is like I never really felt ready,
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Speaker 2: and I think I just kept talking myself out of
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Speaker 2: it because I was so fearful of failure. But it's
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Speaker 2: when you jump into the deep end, you just you
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Speaker 2: can't allow yourself to think too much because you'll just
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Speaker 2: never feel prepared.
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Speaker 1: You are preaching to the choir. We talk about this
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Speaker 1: so often amongst other women, friends and business owners. You
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Speaker 1: are never ready now. You are never ready to have
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Speaker 1: a baby, You're never ready to get married, You're never
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Speaker 1: ready to jump in blindfolded. But that's the only way
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Speaker 1: to move forward, and that's what I mean. To know
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Speaker 1: that you did that in so many aspects and times
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Speaker 1: of your life is incredible.
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Speaker 2: Thank you. YouTube was a great teacher. That's how I
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Speaker 2: learned so much information.
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Speaker 1: The world has totally totally changed in that regard. The
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Speaker 1: information's there, you just need to filter it out, find
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Speaker 1: what's useful, then partner with someone to say does this
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Speaker 1: apply to me, and then go after it. So do
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Speaker 1: you think, and obviously we talk all here about money
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Speaker 1: and success and what that all feels like when you
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Speaker 1: saw your family shift down to one income, do you
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Speaker 1: think that that impacted the way that you felt about
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Speaker 1: money or the money stories that you grew up telling
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Speaker 1: yourself and was it good or bad?
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Speaker 2: Absolutely? I have a lot of financial insecurity even to
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Speaker 2: this day, where like, I just have a really weird
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Speaker 2: relationship with money and I'm always scared that it's fleeting.
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Speaker 2: And I think that comes from first of all, to
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Speaker 2: go even further back, my mom grew up in a
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Speaker 2: wealthier family, but her dad passed away very suddenly when
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Speaker 2: she twelve, and it completely flipped to where you know,
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Speaker 2: her mom was sewing her prom dresses and so she
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Speaker 2: always instilled in me how important a pinion is, which
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Speaker 2: I think is a great thing to know, right you
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Speaker 2: should understand how far a dollar can go if used properly.
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Speaker 2: But it also kind of instilled the sphere in me
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Speaker 2: of like things can change any day. And then my
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Speaker 2: dad was hit really hard by the recession. He is
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Speaker 2: an appraiser, he was an investing in some land, really
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Speaker 2: trying to do everything to provide a better life. Very
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Speaker 2: hard worker. But when the recession came along, it completely
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Speaker 2: decimated everything. But then that only got intensified when my
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Speaker 2: dad got sick. Because truly it's a God sent that
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Speaker 2: we were able to keep the house. What happened was
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Speaker 2: the bank I think, went belly up and lost our mortgage,
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Speaker 2: and through a numerous reasons like we were able to refinance.
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Speaker 2: That is why we kept house. But if it weren't
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Speaker 2: for that, we would have lost absolutely everything. And again,
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Speaker 2: that was just a moment where it's really hard to
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Speaker 2: convince yourself that money is stable and that it will
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Speaker 2: be there forever. And I even hold that to this day.
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Speaker 2: You know, I have been able to convince myself to
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Speaker 2: really invest in myself, but it wasn't without some dissonance,
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Speaker 2: and it wasn't without a little bit of panic, But
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Speaker 2: I think the confidence does come over time, just realizing
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Speaker 2: that it always works out. And it's not just money
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Speaker 2: investment that you have to give yourself. It's also work.
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Speaker 2: And when you show up with the right work ethic
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Speaker 2: and you create the right relationships, yep, that's also wealth.
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Speaker 1: One hundred percent. And it's learning to take those stories,
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Speaker 1: take what you can from them, and then making them
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Speaker 1: work for you. So I imagine, and we talk about
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Speaker 1: this often. Women tend to be a little bit more
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Speaker 1: apprehensive about taking risk by nature, but also with money
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Speaker 1: of course. And then also you know, we are the nurtures,
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Speaker 1: so we're more likely to take a step back out
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Speaker 1: of the workforce and take care of others and put
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Speaker 1: ourselves last. So it is it's that balance of capturing
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Speaker 1: whatever you need to move the needle forward and rewriting
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Speaker 1: your money story and not putting yourself last in other
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Speaker 1: areas of your life. It's it's a wild it's a
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Speaker 1: wild thing. It's so hard. Yes, And I remember, it's
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Speaker 1: funny you bring up the recession and your dad. So
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Speaker 1: my dad is also an entrepreneur, and I learned so
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Speaker 1: much watching him and riding around in his truck when
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Speaker 1: he was building a window and door company. And in
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Speaker 1: that same time period of the recession, I had just
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Speaker 1: moved back from Italy and I was living with him
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Speaker 1: starting my business, and I remember him sitting on the
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Speaker 1: foot of his bed and just he was crying. And
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Speaker 1: I remember walking in and immediately feeling like, this is whatever,
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Speaker 1: this is happening, is nothing I want a part of.
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Speaker 1: It felt so scary and it made me take a
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Speaker 1: different look at entrepreneurial things. But I also saw how
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Speaker 1: he was in charge of his own destiny and could
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Speaker 1: quickly refocus. But you have to take the good with
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Speaker 1: the bad. I mean, money and uncertainty in life is
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Speaker 1: all scary.
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Speaker 2: It's all scary just managing. I think it's being able
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Speaker 2: to give yourself grace as well. Especially I can only
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Speaker 2: imagine the stress of being like a soul provider for
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Speaker 2: a family. But I just know kind of coming into
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Speaker 2: adulthood and realizing, Okay, adulting's not cheap, no, and really
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Speaker 2: just working hard to set myself up to where I
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Speaker 2: can give my kids the best chance at life and
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Speaker 2: like everything that they could ever want. It is really
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Speaker 2: giving yourself grace too, because you can't have improvements without
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Speaker 2: trying things, and unfortunately trying things also can lead to failure.
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Speaker 2: It's just the equations, the equation of life. And I
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Speaker 2: would rather try six things and fail five times then
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Speaker 2: still be sitting on my couch and being like this
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Speaker 2: is a great idea, Like I should try this.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, We've all had that moment where you think of
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Speaker 1: something and then you look it up and somebody already
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Speaker 1: created it. You don't never want to sleep on something a.
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Speaker 2: Bit correct, correct, And I don't know, I just I
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Speaker 2: also had one of those moments of when I came
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Speaker 2: home from New York City and I just realized I
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Speaker 2: was so much happier in Florida. That's another thing, is
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Speaker 2: what does wealth mean to you? Right? And to me,
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Speaker 2: happiness was a big part, big part of the conversation too.
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Speaker 2: But I was living in New York because I was
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Speaker 2: chasing what I thought I needed to do the next accolade,
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Speaker 2: like what's the most impressive I want to be editor
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Speaker 2: in chief one day of like a big fashion editorial.
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Speaker 2: But I was so unhappy and I was missing the
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Speaker 2: important ethos in my life that has always grounded me.
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Speaker 2: And coming home and just kind of reevaluating that. You know,
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Speaker 2: I think wealth also should encompass happiness.
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Speaker 1: One hundred percent, because if you're chasing something that is
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Speaker 1: not filling your cup, there's no way.
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Speaker 2: It's going to stay. Money won't fix that.
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Speaker 1: Money will not fix it.
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Speaker 2: I will disagree when people say money can't buy happiness.
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Speaker 2: I do think it can help with happiness because again,
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Speaker 2: growing up in a household where there was a lot
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Speaker 2: of conversation about money not being there, it definitely takes
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Speaker 2: a stress off, but there is so much more to
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Speaker 2: the conversation as well. It's almost like a whole I
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Speaker 2: don't know, and all encompassing. You have to talk about health,
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Speaker 2: you have to talk about financial stability and happiness and
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Speaker 2: all of those things, all of it.
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Speaker 1: And you're totally right. I always say, you know, when
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Speaker 1: that saying comes up. Money makes everything easier. It gives
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Speaker 1: people options. So if you're chasing money to make you happy,
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Speaker 1: we need to reevaluate that. But man, it does make
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Speaker 1: it easier because I you know, personally, I remember watching
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Speaker 1: my mom where if something unexpected happened, God forbid, same
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Speaker 1: thing with our family when I got sick, there was
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Speaker 1: no extra to pay for all of the things that
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Speaker 1: come with a medical emergency, but even something little like
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Speaker 1: the dishwasher brakes, I know that is huge. So that's
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Speaker 1: where I think when you don't have it, it seems
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Speaker 1: like the people that do are happy, and their happiness
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Speaker 1: is not from the money. It's just hopefully from the
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Speaker 1: ease of having options to make life better. Oh wow, well, okay,
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Speaker 1: So when you first were walking in today, I commented
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Speaker 1: on your amazing, beautiful dress and you it's from your line,
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Speaker 1: So tell us about that. I'm a lover of fashion,
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Speaker 1: and I love that you pivoted to now being a
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Speaker 1: business owner, So tell us how that happened and what
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Speaker 1: that's been like.
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Speaker 2: I've had a few very true transformative experiences in my life,
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Speaker 2: the different ali ways, I guess, like, yes, detours that
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Speaker 2: I've taken, but this one has been such a constant
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Speaker 2: in so many different chapters. And it's because when something's
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Speaker 2: your own, like, it's very fulfilling to you, and every
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Speaker 2: little win is just incredibly gratifying. So I started this
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Speaker 2: clothing brand with ten thousand dollars that I saved up
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Speaker 2: from minimum wage jobs in New York City and some
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Speaker 2: that I've saved up from college and I knew that
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Speaker 2: I always wanted to do something great. I just didn't
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Speaker 2: have the confidence. My boyfriend, an incredible person, very entrepreneurial,
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Speaker 2: not as riskd versus I am. He just really said,
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Speaker 2: you know what you want to do this like do it.
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Speaker 2: Let's leap of faith, Let's do it. What's the worst
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Speaker 2: that can happen? You're down ten grand? Like in the
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Speaker 2: scheme of it, you tried something, you learned from it,
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Speaker 2: and I said, you know what, You're right. I took
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Speaker 2: to YouTube. I watched YouTube videos probably for four days straight.
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Speaker 2: I had a notebook completely filled with what I wanted
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Speaker 2: my niche to be, where I wanted to source the
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Speaker 2: products from kind of my timeline of Okay, so I
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Speaker 2: have to start by private labeling. When do I see
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Speaker 2: myself designing to creating? Made some calls all of a sudden, you're,
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Speaker 2: you know, talking to people overseas or like trying to
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Speaker 2: figure out what are the minimum order quantities? And it
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Speaker 2: truly like started in such grassroots efforts like I we
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Speaker 2: were talking about this earlier, the things that I showed
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Speaker 2: up to my first year of owning a clothing brand
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Speaker 2: just in this name of exposure. I mean some of them.
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Speaker 2: Some of them were brutal. There's been days where I've
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Speaker 2: sold one item for fifteen dollars and I'm just like,
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Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm like, how do I have something worth
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Speaker 2: fifteen dollars on this rack? Like how is that even possible?
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Speaker 2: And it doesn't even cover the gas to get there?
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Speaker 2: But you know what is Then I would have days
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Speaker 2: where I would meet hundreds of women who look at
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Speaker 2: my items and they're just like, this is beautiful and
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Speaker 2: it's affordable and it will last. And my goal always
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Speaker 2: was when I lived in New York City, I feel
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Speaker 2: like fast fashion was just everywhere, but then you would
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Speaker 2: see that one person in the crowd and You're like, Wow,
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Speaker 2: she's timeless. And that's what I wanted it to represent.
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Speaker 2: I wanted my items that I was able to source
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Speaker 2: and bring to women to be things that they'll have
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Speaker 2: throughout different chapters that if it accidentally got thrown into
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Speaker 2: the washer, it's not going to disintegrate. And also play
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Speaker 2: my part and contributing to healthy fashion. And I don't know,
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Speaker 2: I just want women to feel confident in what they wear.
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Speaker 2: Because I remember distinctly as a young girl, it was
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Speaker 2: between seventh grade and eighth grade, I really started honing
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Speaker 2: in on what style was and it completely changes the
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Speaker 2: way you look at yourself and the way that you
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Speaker 2: show up.
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Speaker 1: It's wild because when you are and we're in a
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Speaker 1: culture right now where things have shifted so much, where
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Speaker 1: people you know, it's sweatpants and sweatshirts. And when I
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Speaker 1: grew up, I remember my grandmother saying, I mean, you
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Speaker 1: don't leave the house with out looking pulled together. And
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Speaker 1: when you're flying you I mean when I remember when
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Speaker 1: I was first dating my husband, his brother came to
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Speaker 1: pick me up at the airport flying to Connecticut and
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Speaker 1: he said, I knew you'd be here in a blazer
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Speaker 1: and heels, and I remember thinking, well, I'm on an airplane,
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Speaker 1: of course, And that was, you know, ten years ago,
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Speaker 1: and I think I see people how they travel now,
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Speaker 1: and it's just it's totally different. But it does affect
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Speaker 1: how you show up. And regardless of what you know,
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Speaker 1: people's opinions are on how we view others. I think
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Speaker 1: that those first impressions everything. It matters. Yeah, it matters
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Speaker 1: how you show up, and not only is it going
19:40
Speaker 1: to shape the perception of the audience you're talking to,
19:44
Speaker 1: but it matters to you and your confidence and your
19:48
Speaker 1: ask and what your message or your platform is. So
19:52
Speaker 1: I love that you consider that, and I hope that
19:56
Speaker 1: more people think through that. I try and tell my
19:59
Speaker 1: ten year old little boy every day because he's in that,
20:02
Speaker 1: you know, don't you dare tell me what to wear?
20:05
Speaker 2: Is he a sneakerhead? I feel like that's when it
20:06
Speaker 2: starts developing.
20:07
Speaker 1: He is a sneak your head and comes by it
20:10
Speaker 1: naturally his dad and uncles and all of them. But
20:13
Speaker 1: I'll tell him all the time and he goes, well, Mom,
20:15
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, and I'll say, well it it does matter.
20:19
Speaker 1: People are looking. And when we go to church on
20:24
Speaker 1: the weekends, I will He'll say, Mom, God doesn't care
20:27
Speaker 1: what I'm wearing as long as I go to church.
20:29
Speaker 1: And I will look at him and say, you are right.
20:31
Speaker 1: God doesn't care, But Mom cares.
20:34
Speaker 2: Mom? Does I care?
20:35
Speaker 1: Your reflection of us? Like brush your hair? Kid? So
20:39
Speaker 1: it's important.
20:39
Speaker 2: Yeah. I get asked a lot as Miss Florida what's
20:42
Speaker 2: more important beauty or brains? And I always say, beauty
20:45
Speaker 2: gets you in the door. Brains is what keeps you
20:48
Speaker 2: at the table.
20:48
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love that.
20:50
Speaker 2: But it's true, like you, how you show up is
20:53
Speaker 2: how people perceive you and your abilities and.
20:57
Speaker 1: Quickly, I think, perceive you or your worthiness of being
21:03
Speaker 1: at the table, because it doesn't matter how smart you are.
21:07
Speaker 1: If you show up somewhere and you don't look the part,
21:15
Speaker 1: people will automatically discredit you before you even open your mouth.
21:19
Speaker 1: It's wild.
21:20
Speaker 2: And I think too to make the distinction between like,
21:23
Speaker 2: it's not attractiveness level, Like, I don't think that's really
21:26
Speaker 2: what it's about. It's about how do you take care
21:29
Speaker 2: of yourself? Like are you showing up ready for the
21:32
Speaker 2: job that first day? Or do you go to church
21:35
Speaker 2: and like really still look put together. I mean, there's
21:38
Speaker 2: a difference between attractiveness level, is that even a word?
21:40
Speaker 2: Attractiveness level and just looking confident and showing up excited
21:46
Speaker 2: and read the best version of yourself.
21:49
Speaker 1: Well, and it's funny that you say that because so
21:52
Speaker 1: many people immediately are like, it shouldn't matter what I
21:56
Speaker 1: look like and it They are absolutely right, but does right?
22:01
Speaker 1: But it does?
22:02
Speaker 2: Yeah.
22:03
Speaker 1: So, going through the journey of becoming an entrepreneur and
22:08
Speaker 1: launching your brand, how were there any moments of either,
22:15
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, that was the best decision I made
22:18
Speaker 1: with money to prepare me for this, or are there
22:21
Speaker 1: any any moments that you can share with the listeners
22:24
Speaker 1: that you would say this was a turning point of
22:27
Speaker 1: something I did wrong that I wish I hadn't. I
22:30
Speaker 1: feel like we all have those moments where we're like, oh,
22:32
Speaker 1: this was important.
22:34
Speaker 2: Right all the time. I think entrepreneurship is a constant
22:37
Speaker 2: ebb and flow of being like, this is the best
22:39
Speaker 2: decision I ever made, and this is the worst decision
22:41
Speaker 2: I ever made. And again it goes back to giving
22:44
Speaker 2: yourself grace And sometimes I need someone else to look
22:46
Speaker 2: at me and say, look at what you've built. If
22:50
Speaker 2: the same Casana was looking at what you've built all
22:53
Speaker 2: those years ago, would you be proud? And I think
22:55
Speaker 2: that's what's important because you're I guess the bar of
22:59
Speaker 2: what you're trying to reach continues to go higher and higher,
23:02
Speaker 2: and it should because that's what can build a successful business.
23:06
Speaker 2: But it's just also keeping that perspective of continuing to
23:10
Speaker 2: show up and even when you have those bad days,
23:13
Speaker 2: trusting the process. That's the biggest thing I've learned in
23:17
Speaker 2: every component, whether it be working for years to win
23:20
Speaker 2: miss Florida placing third runner up at Miss America. Like
23:23
Speaker 2: getting my MBA. I'm in corporate finance right now, say
23:26
Speaker 2: a prayer because I do have an examine three days.
23:28
Speaker 2: Oh my god. I think the constant theme is you
23:33
Speaker 2: have to love the journey. You can't just love the winds.
23:36
Speaker 2: And when you start to love the journey and start
23:38
Speaker 2: looking at it through that lens, one bad day won't
23:43
Speaker 2: make you want to throw your hands up and say
23:44
Speaker 2: I can't do this anymore.
23:46
Speaker 1: Right, And it's like, it's always good to remember that
23:49
Speaker 1: version of yourself that was ten years old, sixteen years old,
23:53
Speaker 1: twenty years old, whatever it was. She would think that
23:55
Speaker 1: you were amazing, I.
23:56
Speaker 2: Know, and she would I was such a I was
23:59
Speaker 2: such a How did I become that?
24:03
Speaker 1: Every time I see that, I think, I mean with
24:07
Speaker 1: my story and being a shopaholic, trying to fill whatever
24:13
Speaker 1: leukemia hole was left with happiness of shopping, having no job.
24:19
Speaker 1: I was a total dumpster fire when it came to
24:22
Speaker 1: finances and planning and wealth building. And I think if
24:26
Speaker 1: that twenty three year old girl met me now, she'd
24:30
Speaker 1: be like, you are lying. This is not what you're
24:33
Speaker 1: passionate about and doing for the rest of your life.
24:34
Speaker 1: But it's good to remember that in those days that
24:37
Speaker 1: you're like was today.
24:38
Speaker 2: When I think so cool?
24:40
Speaker 1: I think, so, what was your experience like going through
24:44
Speaker 1: building this brand as a young woman, because I know
24:50
Speaker 1: when I did it, there were plenty of these men
24:52
Speaker 1: that were around me that were more than willing to
24:55
Speaker 1: help and more lovely, but they definitely were a little dismissive.
25:00
Speaker 1: I felt like the pat on the head, Oh this
25:02
Speaker 1: is so cute. Who is your dad helping you? Are
25:04
Speaker 1: you married? And I'm like, I'm twenty five and I'm
25:06
Speaker 1: not married, But what was it like for you?
25:09
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it was one of those things
25:11
Speaker 2: that with the work and effort that I was putting in,
25:15
Speaker 2: it was taken more seriously at first because I had
25:19
Speaker 2: just moved home from COVID and because I was flailing
25:22
Speaker 2: a little bit and not quite sure like where my
25:24
Speaker 2: purpose lied. I did have to prove myself a little
25:26
Speaker 2: bit because they were like, oh my gosh, what what
25:29
Speaker 2: are we doing here? Like what is this the side
25:31
Speaker 2: quest that she's doing? But again, I had the most
25:34
Speaker 2: supportive boyfriend who like really believed in the power of
25:36
Speaker 2: entrepreneurship and what I'm really proud of is like I
25:41
Speaker 2: put in the time on the research end so that
25:45
Speaker 2: if there was a question, I was like, don't worry,
25:47
Speaker 2: I've already thought about that, which, of course, like the
25:49
Speaker 2: plan never goes accordingly, And there has been times when
25:53
Speaker 2: I would go through slow seasons where people would ask like,
25:56
Speaker 2: are you still doing that? Like really, like you're that's
25:59
Speaker 2: still something you're into. But again, it's just showing up.
26:02
Speaker 2: And I think by building upon that, by continuing to
26:06
Speaker 2: show up, by by having confidence in research and working hard,
26:11
Speaker 2: it's hard for people in your life to look at
26:14
Speaker 2: you and challenge it. I guess because they're like, Okay,
26:17
Speaker 2: she loves this, she's putting the work in consistently. Consistency,
26:21
Speaker 2: I think is what brought comfort.
26:24
Speaker 1: It is the magic bullet I think for so much,
26:28
Speaker 1: no matter what you're talking about, health, building, wealth, showing
26:32
Speaker 1: up for yourself, working through being a parent, a marriage,
26:36
Speaker 1: a friend, you have to do things well consistently.
26:41
Speaker 2: Social media, social I think that that is such a
26:43
Speaker 2: great metaphor.
26:44
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's I know, I know, it's a
26:47
Speaker 1: full time job. Even if you have people doing.
26:49
Speaker 2: It, it is a full time job. And that's something
26:52
Speaker 2: I've really tried to pour into this year because it's
26:56
Speaker 2: hard to fail if you do have a strong social
26:58
Speaker 2: media following, honestly, because that is like your crew. People
27:03
Speaker 2: want to see you succeed. I feel if it is
27:05
Speaker 2: a really engaged following. But man, oh my gosh, it's hard.
27:10
Speaker 1: We just went to Spain for a friend's birthday and
27:13
Speaker 1: my team said, okay, just get some content. This will
27:17
Speaker 1: be great. And I still, even though it's been you know,
27:22
Speaker 1: a while that I've been doing this, it does feel
27:25
Speaker 1: so funny. And my husband is the best Instagram husband ever.
27:29
Speaker 2: Well trained.
27:30
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean he knows how to hold the
27:32
Speaker 1: cameras and his friends are laughing at him, but he's like, listen,
27:36
Speaker 1: I've perfected this.
27:38
Speaker 2: So that's a man that loves you. I want to
27:41
Speaker 2: that is a man that has so much love for you.
27:43
Speaker 2: And my boyfriend did the same thing, and it's so
27:45
Speaker 2: funny because he was going to film a video one
27:49
Speaker 2: time and so he gave the camera to someone else
27:50
Speaker 2: and he was like, Okay, listen, you need more space
27:52
Speaker 2: above the head, like the bottom of the angle needs
27:54
Speaker 2: to be right up to the shoes.
27:56
Speaker 1: And I was prouder and.
27:58
Speaker 2: I was just like you love me that much that
28:01
Speaker 2: I like this man has done some research to ensure
28:04
Speaker 2: that I'm getting the best Instagram photos, And yeah, I think,
28:08
Speaker 2: I honestly think it is a currency for love. I'm like,
28:11
Speaker 2: that is a love language. Is getting Instagram photos? It is?
28:13
Speaker 1: Because it's not easy. No, it's not figuring it all out. Yeah,
28:17
Speaker 1: it's wild. And so speaking of social media and pictures,
28:21
Speaker 1: you are obviously well versed in this because of the
28:25
Speaker 1: title that you hold, and I think for most of
28:28
Speaker 1: us listening, we don't know what that world is like.
28:32
Speaker 1: So can you give us a little peek behind the curtain?
28:35
Speaker 1: What is the pageant world like? What was it like
28:38
Speaker 1: to hear your name when you won? And once you win?
28:41
Speaker 1: What happens? Are there financial rewards to being a titleholder?
28:47
Speaker 2: Yes? So Miss America organization is the largest scholarship provider
28:52
Speaker 2: for young women in the world. And again, I really
28:56
Speaker 2: started to pour myself into this because I needed to
28:59
Speaker 2: go to college and my family didn't have the money
29:01
Speaker 2: to send me to college. And I fell in love
29:04
Speaker 2: with it because there's such an emphasis on service. So
29:07
Speaker 2: sometimes when people think Miss America, they think beauty pageant. Well,
29:11
Speaker 2: they have completely rebranded themselves to be a scholarship competition
29:14
Speaker 2: because they don't want the emphasis on the beauty part
29:18
Speaker 2: we have. We all have service initiatives that we pour into.
29:22
Speaker 2: So for example, Mind's organ donation, and every young woman
29:26
Speaker 2: who competes in the missmeric Organization has theirs. So any
29:29
Speaker 2: cause that you can think about, women are pouring into
29:32
Speaker 2: their communities, their states, their nations, and that really just
29:35
Speaker 2: also reinstilled in me what can be changed with service
29:41
Speaker 2: because I'm surrounded by a young women her role like minded.
29:44
Speaker 2: So that is the background story of the missmeric Organization.
29:47
Speaker 2: But there's also components that you compete in. Miss Florida
29:50
Speaker 2: is a week long competition a week a week long competition,
29:54
Speaker 2: and you have to win at a local level too.
29:57
Speaker 2: So I was missed Tampa last year because that's where
29:59
Speaker 2: more transplants, more life was based out of and the
30:03
Speaker 2: most incredible year. But you do a lot in your community,
30:06
Speaker 2: you do a lot for your service initiative, and then
30:09
Speaker 2: you have to prep on stage, which is we have talent.
30:12
Speaker 2: So I grew up as a competitive dancer. At twenty six,
30:14
Speaker 2: it's a little harder to do that.
30:16
Speaker 1: But what type of discipline was your specialty?
30:19
Speaker 2: I've always loved contemporary lyrical so I did growing up.
30:23
Speaker 2: I know you mentioned that earlier, and I feel like
30:26
Speaker 2: a dancer truly knows how hard it is to stay
30:29
Speaker 2: a dancer as you get older. And so I was
30:32
Speaker 2: training in the studio multiple times a week. I was
30:35
Speaker 2: going on three or four appearances asthmas tample like local level,
30:39
Speaker 2: I was partnering with hospitals and politicians past legislation. We
30:44
Speaker 2: have a ten minute interview with a panel of judges
30:46
Speaker 2: where they can ask you about anything under the sun.
30:49
Speaker 2: You can get asked about abortion, gun rights, you can
30:51
Speaker 2: get asked about your community service initiative, you know, beauty
30:55
Speaker 2: or brains like any question you have to be completely
30:57
Speaker 2: prepared for. Then you have on stage quest, which is
31:00
Speaker 2: you answer again any question under the sun in front
31:04
Speaker 2: of a thousand people. We have a lot of pressure
31:08
Speaker 2: on stage. Question is really where my nerves? Oh? I
31:10
Speaker 2: hate it? I hated it. And then we have evening
31:15
Speaker 2: gown and fitness because they.
31:16
Speaker 1: Don't they do fitness now instead of the bathing suit
31:18
Speaker 1: thing right now.
31:19
Speaker 2: Yes, they do fitness instead of the bathing suit. Again,
31:21
Speaker 2: really trying to rebrand it not as not as beauty
31:24
Speaker 2: and that's not what it's about. And so I went
31:29
Speaker 2: to Miss Florida three times. I was first runer up.
31:32
Speaker 2: My second time completely crushed me. But oh my god,
31:35
Speaker 2: I can't imagine. You get so close in hard work
31:38
Speaker 2: and out of forty girls, you're like, am I ever
31:40
Speaker 2: going to get this high again? Like? Am I ever
31:41
Speaker 2: going to place this well again? Or is my dream
31:45
Speaker 2: kind of this? Is that as far as I'll ever go.
31:48
Speaker 2: And that's why I really wanted to make sure next
31:51
Speaker 2: time I came back as Miss Florida, there was not
31:53
Speaker 2: a doubt in the judge's mind that I was capable
31:55
Speaker 2: and ready. That's when I started working heavy with more transplants,
31:58
Speaker 2: more life ashead of Operations, I went back for my masters.
32:01
Speaker 2: I really poured into the unverified. I wrote a book
32:04
Speaker 2: and basically gave them out because I just wanted this
32:08
Speaker 2: to be like a free resource and I just tried
32:11
Speaker 2: to make myself better in every element of my life.
32:13
Speaker 2: And I came back the next year and one, and
32:15
Speaker 2: you would think at that point you're like, oh man,
32:18
Speaker 2: I made it. My dream was achieved. But immediately you're like, okay,
32:22
Speaker 2: I have to get ready for Miss America.
32:24
Speaker 1: Now, how long do you have between So it used
32:27
Speaker 1: to be.
32:27
Speaker 2: In September, so you only had two months to prepare.
32:30
Speaker 2: My year was in it. I left on December twenty eighth,
32:34
Speaker 2: So during Christmas, everyone's opening up gifts, and all I'm
32:37
Speaker 2: thinking about is, oh my goodness, oh my goodness, oh
32:40
Speaker 2: my goodness, Like, am I ready? Am I ready?
32:42
Speaker 1: So what happens if you're just get this title Miss Florida,
32:46
Speaker 1: and then let's say you win Miss America, then you
32:50
Speaker 1: have to give up. You give Florida to the runner up.
32:52
Speaker 2: First runner up takes over Florida duties, and I don't know.
32:57
Speaker 2: There's always a part of me I was like, there's
32:58
Speaker 2: no way I'm going to win Miss my Like there's
33:00
Speaker 2: just no way. And then you get there and you're like,
33:03
Speaker 2: you are capable of doing this, and then to place
33:06
Speaker 2: third runner up. I mean, if you would have asked
33:09
Speaker 2: me a year ago, I would have said there's no way.
33:12
Speaker 2: But again, honestly, I think my harshest flaw in my
33:17
Speaker 2: life is the fact that I don't trust myself enough.
33:20
Speaker 2: And with entrepreneurship, with money management, whatever it may be,
33:25
Speaker 2: you have to trust yourself and you have to understand
33:27
Speaker 2: that you are so much more capable than you give
33:30
Speaker 2: your self credit, and I think women struggle with that
33:32
Speaker 2: more than men.
33:33
Speaker 1: I hope that all of you are writing this down
33:37
Speaker 1: on the side of the road or wherever you're at.
33:39
Speaker 2: Y just pull over, safe driving, Yeah, step away from
33:43
Speaker 2: the stove while you're cooking.
33:44
Speaker 1: But it is so true. It all comes back to
33:48
Speaker 1: believing in yourself, not having imposter syndrome. You deserve to
33:53
Speaker 1: be at the table, fight for what you think you
33:56
Speaker 1: deserve and are worth, and the world is yours. We
34:00
Speaker 1: do such a bad job as women. I don't know.
34:04
Speaker 1: I think we're getting better about emulating it for each other.
34:08
Speaker 1: I think, you know, as friends were a little bit less.
34:12
Speaker 1: We're less in a culture of being competitive with each
34:15
Speaker 1: other and uplifting each other hopefully, but yeah, we have
34:21
Speaker 1: to do better.
34:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's where it all starts. I agree. You
34:25
Speaker 2: have to truly be able to look to the women
34:27
Speaker 2: to your right or left and know that they have
34:29
Speaker 2: your back and they have your best interest, and that
34:31
Speaker 2: they'll hold a mirror up and show you how great
34:33
Speaker 2: you are. Which I was very doubtful that I would
34:37
Speaker 2: find such genuine friendships at Miss America, and God just
34:42
Speaker 2: has a way of working. The first night we were
34:44
Speaker 2: at orientation in this huge ballroom, there was eight seats
34:47
Speaker 2: at each table. We sat down a group of eight
34:50
Speaker 2: of us, and it was just such fate because those
34:52
Speaker 2: are the girls that I still group chat to this day.
34:54
Speaker 2: You do. And I got deathly sick during Miss America,
34:58
Speaker 2: like sicker than I've ever been two days in to
35:00
Speaker 2: ten days, and they were the ones who were praying
35:04
Speaker 2: over me and like making sure, you know, does my
35:07
Speaker 2: mom need to go pick medicine up for you? I'm like, no,
35:09
Speaker 2: it's okay. My boyfriend just showed up with three hundred
35:11
Speaker 2: dollars from CBS of old medicine. Yes, but you have
35:15
Speaker 2: to trust that the women in your life were there
35:17
Speaker 2: for the right reasons, and if not, I've just learned
35:20
Speaker 2: in life it's it's not worth it.
35:23
Speaker 1: Cut and run, get your village, and don't accept anybody
35:28
Speaker 1: that isn't equally as invested in the relationship.
35:30
Speaker 2: Right.
35:31
Speaker 1: Do you guys have to buy all of the clothes
35:34
Speaker 1: that you wear for state level?
35:36
Speaker 2: Yes? Once I won Miss Florida, I had a dress
35:40
Speaker 2: sponsored an incredible dress shop here in Orlando called Regalia
35:43
Speaker 2: Apparel in downtown. I think downtown Orlando and we went
35:48
Speaker 2: up to New York City. I designed it with Jovanni
35:51
Speaker 2: and I was able to wear that on Miss America.
35:52
Speaker 2: I won evening gown at Miss America with that, which
35:55
Speaker 2: again was one of those moments where it's just it's
35:59
Speaker 2: so wild because I didn't believe in any of these strengths,
36:02
Speaker 2: and then I don't know, just as life progresses, you
36:05
Speaker 2: see it, you do. And my attire, my outfits that
36:10
Speaker 2: I wear at appearances are sponsored by a boutique down
36:12
Speaker 2: in Homestead called Anne Marie Boutique. I have a dental sponsor,
36:17
Speaker 2: I have an incredible group of sponsors. My car sponsored.
36:20
Speaker 1: That's wonderful.
36:21
Speaker 2: I know for the year, you definitely do live like
36:23
Speaker 2: a queen, but it is hard work and you do
36:27
Speaker 2: have to put your life on pause to serve. And
36:30
Speaker 2: I don't know if people fully realize that.
36:32
Speaker 1: But because it's more than beauty, it is truly an
36:35
Speaker 1: act of service.
36:36
Speaker 2: Right, And it was always really important for me as
36:38
Speaker 2: Miss Florida to not only represent those who are showing
36:41
Speaker 2: up to the really nice galas or like the high
36:44
Speaker 2: dollar contributors. I wanted to be a Miss Florida that okay,
36:48
Speaker 2: I got invited to an event that's in the middle
36:50
Speaker 2: of the forest to raise money for wildlife. I'm gonna
36:54
Speaker 2: say yes to it because it's not just my duty
36:56
Speaker 2: to represent a niche group of people. I wanted to
36:59
Speaker 2: represent all of Florida, and I think when you lead
37:02
Speaker 2: with that, it's just inevitable that you're going to change
37:05
Speaker 2: for the better.
37:06
Speaker 1: What is next for you?
37:09
Speaker 2: I am really trying to go the broadcast route. I
37:12
Speaker 2: would love to be able to do that on the
37:14
Speaker 2: side of also continuing to run my business. I just
37:17
Speaker 2: realized through this year that I have such a strength
37:20
Speaker 2: of relationship building, communicating, storytelling, and I don't want a
37:25
Speaker 2: moment in my life to go by where I didn't
37:27
Speaker 2: at least try to completely grow in my strengths. It
37:31
Speaker 2: took me a long time to realize what my strengths were,
37:34
Speaker 2: and now that I'm here, I really want to go
37:36
Speaker 2: into TV. But I also love fashion, so something where
37:39
Speaker 2: I can incorporate it all, which I guess sounds like
37:42
Speaker 2: a lot to incorporate in once. But just looking at
37:44
Speaker 2: the trajectory of my life, I've been able to juggle
37:46
Speaker 2: a couple of things at a time, and hopefully that'll
37:49
Speaker 2: be what's dot for the chapter.
37:51
Speaker 1: Is not a doubt in my mind that you're going
37:52
Speaker 1: to do it.
37:53
Speaker 2: Thank you.
37:53
Speaker 1: I just hope you stay local so we can all
37:55
Speaker 1: see you and love on you in Orlando.
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Speaker 2: I do love my Orlando family. I've definitely become c.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure it's hard not to fall in love with
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Speaker 1: this place. So okay, what is one as we kind
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Speaker 1: of wind down here? What is one tip that you
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Speaker 1: have learned through all of these different chapters You've lived
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Speaker 1: around money that you think may help someone that's listening.
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Speaker 2: Invest in yourself, whether that be in your education and
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Speaker 2: starting a business and getting investing in your health, a
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Speaker 2: procedure that really will enhance your life. When you decide
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Speaker 2: to invest in yourself and not look at it like
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Speaker 2: it's a selfish act. That's really when you can see
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Speaker 2: your life transform. And it's scary, and you might be
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Speaker 2: sitting there and saying, well, why would I invest ten
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Speaker 2: thousand dollars in me when I could invest in my kids?
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Speaker 2: But you have to realize the ten thousand dollars that
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Speaker 2: you're investing in yourself and for a better future could
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Speaker 2: completely generationally change the trajectory of your kids, and that
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Speaker 2: means a lot more than you know buying all these
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Speaker 2: outfits for your child. I wish I understood how much
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Speaker 2: one dollar towards myself and my future would have gone
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Speaker 2: a long time ago. But if you're willing to invest
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Speaker 2: in yourself, it's only natural that it'll come back tenfold.
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Speaker 1: That's amazing advice because the more fulfilled and complete you feel,
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Speaker 1: you're only going to be able then to pour into
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Speaker 1: others that are hoping to get something from your experiences.
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Speaker 1: So it's so true, pour into yourself first, invest in yourself.
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Speaker 1: Do not feel guilty. It's something we all do so frequently.
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Speaker 1: And I have one more thing, yes, of course, what
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Speaker 1: is the most dreadful question you ever got or that
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Speaker 1: stumped you? Was there ever anything that you remember that
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Speaker 1: you were.
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Speaker 2: Like, really?
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Speaker 1: Did I just get asked this question during like the
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Speaker 1: pageant stuff.
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Speaker 2: Well, Miss Florida A couple of years ago. I got
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Speaker 2: asked about gerrymandering in my interview, which is I don't
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Speaker 2: want to butcher it on here, but the reallocation of
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Speaker 2: lines for voting points basically in certain areas, and I
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Speaker 2: like somehow skated my way through the answer. But it's
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Speaker 2: questions like that or I also got asked about gun
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Speaker 2: control on stage in front of a thousand people, and
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Speaker 2: you could answer it as eloquently as possible, You're still
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Speaker 2: probably offending half so many people. But I think with
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Speaker 2: those things, it's just you know, how can you how
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Speaker 2: can you truly stand by your opinion but say it
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Speaker 2: in a way that gives room for empathy for all?
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Speaker 2: And that's always been my goal.
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Speaker 1: I love that. How can people find you? How can
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Speaker 1: people learn more about organ donation, about your current business
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Speaker 1: and baby, how do we follow along on this amazing journey.
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Speaker 2: Well, my personal page on Facebook, TikTok and Instagram is
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Speaker 2: at Cassanna Fink. My business is the Unverified And if
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Speaker 2: you want to know more about organ donation or you're
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Speaker 2: considering becoming an organ donor, which saves lives, lives like
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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for all of the work that
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Speaker 1: you're doing in not only the that space, but the
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Speaker 1: message that you're giving to so many women who inevitably
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Speaker 1: see you and look up to you. I have had
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Speaker 1: the best time. You are delightful you, and I hope
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Speaker 1: that everyone listening, I hope that you can feel it.
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Speaker 1: But if you're watching, she is so genuine and I'm
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Speaker 1: so so thankful that you joined us today. As always, ladies,
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Speaker 1: there is so much work to be done to change
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Speaker 1: the way women think and feel about money. How you
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Speaker 1: write your story, what success looks like. Today's the day,
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Speaker 1: find somebody who inspires you. We have a great example.
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Speaker 1: But let's keep doing the good work as always, like subscribe, share,
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Speaker 1: and until next time, let's keep changing the way women
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Speaker 1: think and feel about money together