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- 0:25Get into Gate episode two hundred and twenty two, Different twenty two Stargate Atlantis
- 0:34to get into Gate. Team is here. My name is Mitch. Hi,
- 0:37how are you? I will now refer to my left and go around
- 0:40clockwise. Brendan gooday mate, the man who's dead inside. Hi. Now
- 0:47to the guy who's only dead inside when we tell him what he can and
- 0:50can't talk about on the podcast, it's a buddy, Hey, what's doing
- 0:54here to talk about? Some Atlantis guys? Atlantis? Damn it here,
- 0:59he's gonna dead on the outside. Got the old got the old city city,
- 1:03cough city cock in the mouth. There we go. That's that's what
- 1:07he also is, cock boy, old cock boy, shrin over there?
- 1:12Which speaking of Mitchell, what we need to speaking of hang on content?
- 1:18Doing it to light here? Put? What are you sharing in the Instagram?
- 1:23Oh boy? What did I do? You were sharing content from like
- 1:26the Boys or something like that Instagram? That's probably me again, I was
- 1:32liking it and you shared the post. I literally have no memory of this.
- 1:37I'm interested to see what it is. But maybe it's one of those
- 1:40collaborator posts you know, where it's actually shared by the boys. But it's
- 1:47in correlation with another account that I actually followed Boy Problems and no one else.
- 1:55I think I followed them because Lincoln follows them. Yeah, Lincoln follows
- 1:57a lot of build the accounts. Um, that was what it come.
- 2:02That's an algorithm thing that just pops up, as in, you know,
- 2:05you'll watch one reel that you like and you start scrolling down. Yeah,
- 2:07but but what what are you watching where they're saying, Hey, this,
- 2:10this married man with four kids is definitely going to enjoy at Boy properly.
- 2:15I can tell you, mate, you wouldn't understand you just you wouldn't understand
- 2:20the plight that Brendan and I found ourselves in occasionally. So it's a couple
- 2:23of boys, it's a couple of married father boys. None of that works
- 2:29in a sentence, and there's no way that I could restructure it to make
- 2:31it work. We're talking about Stargate Atlantis, episode nineteen of season Episode eighteen
- 2:37of season two, Michael Yeah, Absolutely, Lieutenant Michael ken Moore learns that
- 2:45he was once a wraith. Oh god, spoiler alert, guys. Me
- 2:50literally a halfway through the episode and the Atlantis team has captured him and attempted
- 2:54to turn him into a human using the retrovirus the doctor beck At developed.
- 3:00The team must prevent Michael from rejoining the Wraith or he will alert them to
- 3:05the existence of Atlantis. Written by Carl Binder, directed by Martin Wood.
- 3:10Although if you watch the credits, not what's written here in front of me,
- 3:15the excerpt written I saw that by not one but both Robert C.
- 3:21Cooper and Martin Guiro. Yes, what did they do in this epid?
- 3:24Like the two negative boys quit boys? Yeah? Like what excerpt? It's
- 3:31like they used footage from other episodes that they'd written, like what they come
- 3:37in. I'm going to rate the little flashback thing where he's on a Wraith
- 3:40ship. It goes for three seconds. Yeah, yeah, I want to
- 3:44credit. I want I want Premium parking for that. Yeah, you can
- 3:51get a credit too. You do it together. We've both got power.
- 3:55We should do this together. We'll get what we want. But it starts
- 4:00off with the actual story and old mate wakes up and I was like,
- 4:01hang on, who's who's this guy? And then people walking, Oh,
- 4:04you're awake, and I thought that's all that's the thing, right, So
- 4:09I'm looking at him going oh, we've seen this guy before. Yeah,
- 4:13yeah, he played a different role. I don't I don't know where he
- 4:15looked a little different. I just can't quite put my finger on where.
- 4:19No, I'm still trying to work, And ten minutes in I'm like,
- 4:23oh, yeah, he was in Origins, and you guys were like,
- 4:27he was so much better when he was an Atlantis, not involved in this
- 4:30piece of shit. So yeahs totally ruined my bat and switch. I was
- 4:38gonna do what we're gonna do, like, well, you know, obviously,
- 4:41you know, any fan of sci fi is going to know him from
- 4:44that really big important sci fi show that he did that's one Stargate Origins.
- 4:50Yeah, ah, sorry mate, you figured it out. I got I
- 4:55got way too carried away with with Connor there. So yeah, but um,
- 5:00I like this that we're just sort of thrown into the middle of this
- 5:02story and we're kind of seeing it from from his point of view, which
- 5:06I think is the only way this episode works. Yes to go, we've
- 5:11always said like we're always the fifth member of the team. We always we're
- 5:15experiencing things as as they do. Yeah, but this is that flip where
- 5:20they know everything we were actually in the pov of Michael where we don't really
- 5:25know what's going on the most part, but we're seeing a little bit more
- 5:28than he is. We see the little sneaky meetings, but it's quite a
- 5:31while, like we don't find out Michael unless you've read the synopsis. We
- 5:34don't find out that Michael's array until that kind of well, I guess this
- 5:39is the question for you. Is that sort of jump scare in the mirror
- 5:42like that where he hit? Is that where you? Is that where you
- 5:49was? The first time? I went, oh, I'm actually not sure.
- 5:55I feel I felt like I had it two maybe three times to a
- 5:59moment what if? What if he was a right? Like the fact that
- 6:02every everyone's hiding something from him that reveal in the mirror in his dream,
- 6:08and the fact that regardless of of the roost that everyone else was putting on,
- 6:14Ronan was not there to fuck around. He saw I'm strangling this bloke
- 6:19the first second. It's like the fact that human the first time we see
- 6:26Ronan this episode, he sees two people in the training room on training mats
- 6:31sparring where they practice sparring, and he rips this guy up like good off
- 6:36of her and she's like, no, Rodan, we were doing that in
- 6:40my hand. You were training in the training room, and Roans done more
- 6:44damage to like military personnel in that training room then Michael could have ever done
- 6:49to Taylor in that room. Yeah. Yeah, some alpha bullshit Rodans.
- 6:54I didn't understand though, why they kept leaving him like so unattended, just
- 6:59with one anapped. Yeah, as doctor Eva would say, yeah, but
- 7:03like there was that scene like he's with Taylor the whole time, and for
- 7:08me, it seemed like Taylor didn't want to bar of this, but she
- 7:12was like, well I kind of want to help the guy. I'm like,
- 7:14but he's a Wraith. Yeah. And then throughout the entire thing,
- 7:16I was like, actually, SGA kind of assholes. Yeah. Yeah,
- 7:20who's the who's the one member of the team. Well, I guess two.
- 7:23Now you got Ronan, But it's like, who who has the most
- 7:25trauma when it comes to being hunted by race? Yeah, and the one
- 7:29person who's part Raith who could accidentally activate his like any any wraith you know,
- 7:35uh telepathy powers that he has. Yeah, it's like Taylor should be
- 7:39the one person away from him. Yeah. Yeah, it didn't make sense,
- 7:44but then yeah, he's always left alone and that's how he escapes.
- 7:47Yeah, and then when they do, they go, oh, instead of
- 7:50having him like, well, remember how we've got that room. Yeah,
- 7:55with the bars and the and the force fields. Yeah, no, let's
- 7:58put him in a tent on the Alpha site. That'll be way more secure.
- 8:01And that was after he'd already escaped, Right, he escaped Atlantis.
- 8:05How do they think he's not going to escape the Alpha side. He's escaped
- 8:09to maximum prison security. Let's okay, let's take him put him in a
- 8:13cabin in the middle of the woods. It's like, no, don't downgrade.
- 8:15What are you talking about it? Yeah, it was weird. I
- 8:18think I might have had as as a tiny thought or what if two or
- 8:22three times before the reveal, but didn't ever give it. I think because
- 8:28had I have even thought to the retrovirus and with dual state and all that
- 8:33that, had they have touched on it since then? You thought she was
- 8:35going back? Yeah? I thought she was, Michael, That's what she
- 8:39looked like when she became an unraithed u that. Yeah, we haven't really
- 8:46spoken about the retrovirus since then. I wanted to say, so, like,
- 8:48had we have had it even been in the previously on it be in
- 8:52six or seven episodes, Yeah, it's it's not too far. But I
- 8:54just if it was even in the previously and I might have thought, oh,
- 8:58but I'm glad that they didn't go, Hey, remember this thing where
- 9:01we were talking about turning Raith to the humans, Well, what's this episode
- 9:03about this stranger you've never met before? And then everyone's basically lying to him
- 9:07and we're going to reveal him as a Wraith and you're going to be totally
- 9:09surprised, right, So I liked that that's what they were doing, and
- 9:15all of a sudden, you're holy shit, they've taken a huge step.
- 9:18And then, like Brennan said, they're pricks, you start going, hang
- 9:20on, got you're actually playing like there, Yes, they're bad guys,
- 9:24but you've essentially created a new consciousness in a way. You've got a fresh
- 9:33mold there. You've shaped him into a human being, and then you've revealed
- 9:37to him, no, you were actually this other thing and we turned you
- 9:41away from that. And now that he's kind of got the humanity that you
- 9:43gave him, he's there questioning why you feel like you've got the right to
- 9:48do that to another species, but then also kind of wanting to revert back
- 9:50to that species because he feels like that's where he belongs because you guys have
- 9:54betrayed him. Like it was a yeah, like a really sad, traumatic
- 9:58sort of fall, but oh yeah, because we we were totally in the
- 10:01wrong. Oh yeah, we had no right to feel so weird to look
- 10:05at them and go no, and they felt so justified what they did.
- 10:09Like that moment, he's like, we were at war and there's nothing we
- 10:13won't do to stop them from wanting to kill us. And I'm like,
- 10:16yeah, I get it, I get why you did it, but the
- 10:20doing it's the thing we have a problem with. Yeah, you don't get
- 10:22it, Michael. We just gave you so much fucking freedom. Yeah.
- 10:26It's like, so if we if we kidnap Hitler dias mustache blonde and wipe
- 10:35his memory, does that suddenly make him fine? Like we'll just yeah,
- 10:39he's he's a puppy now, it's fine. You know. I guess it's
- 10:43it's a I guess it's almost like the experiment. Yeah, it's it's the
- 10:46Atlantis take on that whole lanea argument that's remember when it was she was the
- 10:50destroyer of world. Yeah, and then you know she had a memory wiped
- 10:54and she was made young and she was going back here and it's like,
- 10:56well, you know, but then she turned into again. Yeah. But
- 11:00also like then they're like quick whipper again. You guys are just gonna have
- 11:03to keep doing that every six months. But also that was like that was
- 11:05like an accident. It's like we actively did this. Yeah, And like
- 11:11like Michael was never human, he was born a raith. Yeah, like
- 11:15that that's like, okay, that's like the wraith like kidnapping one of us
- 11:22and then like we're going to turn you back into a chimpanzee, you little
- 11:24ape like and then going well that's what you were, that's what you were
- 11:28before, so we're going to make you that now. Yeah. Like if
- 11:31you flip it, and that was like Michael was Shepherd and even if you
- 11:37put the other way to go. Okay, so imagine Shepherd wakes up in
- 11:41a raith hive and he's been made to turn into a raith and they make
- 11:46him think he's a wraith and that kind of stuff. It's like you're like,
- 11:48that is the most fucked up evil thing you could possibly do. That's
- 11:50what we did. Yeah, but what was the episode call but as a
- 11:56partner and the courtroom scene, yeah, yeah, and that we end up
- 12:03having oh god, a great something tense. It's one of my favorite episodes.
- 12:09It is. It was pretense, pretensense. Yeah, and what's an
- 12:11old baite? What's long hair? Movie? Scara? It's all about him
- 12:16and and I'm us having a really good chat in that podcast because yeah,
- 12:22as a partner raises that great point. He's like, hey, we need
- 12:24you know, we're just basically little slugs without you. And they're like,
- 12:28well, you don't have the right to take over our bodies and use us
- 12:33to live. And he's like, don't you eat cows? Have you ever
- 12:35asked a cow whether they're okay with it? And we're like, oh,
- 12:39actually, yeah we do. We all started sitting there comparing how much we
- 12:43consider becoming vegetarian because we are actually killing and eating other animals that have no
- 12:48say in it. So it was like less than that in this episode of
- 12:50the episode wasn't about that, But all of a sudden, once you caught
- 12:54up and what had been happening, it was like, oh shit, Now
- 12:56if I rewatched the episode from the start, I'm gonna hate us very quickly
- 13:01in this episode. And that's what I think was so well about the way
- 13:03that it was told. You said, either most of the time we are
- 13:05seeing a story from the core for whether it be in Atlantis or back in
- 13:11the SGC, we're seeing it from our team's perspective, and then you get
- 13:16something like Kudata last last episode for Atlantis where old Mate it it's French.
- 13:24Old Mate comes comes back along. What was his name again? Anyway?
- 13:28The Redeem, Yeah, right, Redeem comes along and you're like, I
- 13:33hear what you're saying, but I don't believe you. But if we're to
- 13:39go buy what you're saying, we have to act a certain way until we
- 13:43realize how much you were lying, and then we have to act differently.
- 13:46This was kind of somewhere in the middle where we were very much seeing it
- 13:50from Michael's point of view, only if we believed everything that he was saying
- 13:54to us, But because we don't know him as a performer yet in this
- 13:58show, as a character yet in this show, you kind of knew that
- 14:03SG well, sure, but the SGA, the SGA crew, and then
- 14:11the way they're looking at each other and even Michael pointing at out going.
- 14:13Everyone's talking around me, No one's talking to me. You guys are all
- 14:16hiding something from me. But I don't know that I ever truly believed until
- 14:22right before they revealed him to be a wraith. I don't think I ever
- 14:24truly believed that he didn't didn't know anything about his past. Yeah, I
- 14:31was just questioning it because I'm like, no, this show has conditioned me
- 14:35to not believe you, and only once it was too late, and I
- 14:37feel so sorry for you. I don't they don't speak for me, sg,
- 14:41I don't speak for me. I don't believe in what they did.
- 14:43And all of a sudden, he throws old Mate down the stairs and punches
- 14:46Roan and runs away from Taylor, And I'm like, oh, dude,
- 14:50well now you've done the wrong thing. Now we've got to stop you.
- 14:52Now, the bad now, the slightly less bad guys in this episode that
- 14:54we're our heroes up until ten minutes ago. Now we have to root for
- 14:58them to undo what they did to you. There's no winners here. There
- 15:03were there were. I found some really interesting visual cues that kind of gave
- 15:05you a hint that something suspect was going on. I feel like this episode
- 15:09more than any other, and I think they may have changed him, but
- 15:11a little like Mike's that they wear like when they're when they're rolling around at
- 15:16lanterns, even in the kitchen, like they just they were always wearing them.
- 15:20They don't normally always wear them, and they were just I feel like
- 15:22they were a lot more prominent, and I feel like that was probably a
- 15:26choice, and they were they were deliberately shooting people from like the side that
- 15:30their microphone thing was one, so that way, it kind of gave you
- 15:33the just's like, okay, well everyone else is interconnected and talking whenever they
- 15:37want except for Michael. And then the other cool thing I noticed was when
- 15:41Rodney was talking to him in like the you know, the the mess and
- 15:46he goes to shake his hand. Michael sort of didn't know how to shake
- 15:50hands. Yeah he didn't under I'm like that he's such a cool touch.
- 15:52Yeah, like because it's like, yeah, Raith wouldn't know how to how
- 15:56to shake hands. Yeah, it didn't sit well. And that's why I
- 15:58thought that's me first time, And I'm like, oh, hang on,
- 16:03you don't yeah, you don't like Rodney, or you don't trust him because
- 16:06of what you know, why you don't want to do that. I didn't.
- 16:08I didn't at all think until literally now I'd forgotten about that moment that
- 16:12he doesn't know what that is. That's not a gesture. So yeah,
- 16:15it was really I don't know, it was really well done. I think
- 16:18the way that it all sort of played it like at the end, and
- 16:21obviously it sort of ends not on a cliffhanger, but it's like, well,
- 16:23he's still out there the Raith. Now we'll know that Atlantis is a
- 16:26thing. Yeah, which even at the start where they're like, hey,
- 16:30do you remember who you are? You're an Atlantis and I'm like, I
- 16:33don't know that. I don't know who this guy is. Yeah, I
- 16:37immediately don't believe him. And I think you're talking too much. Stop saying
- 16:41Atlantis like they were going so hard to make him one of theirs when they
- 16:45weren't sure that this thing was even work. And I'm what, you idiots,
- 16:48They have done an evil thing and you're being really dumb about it.
- 16:52Afterwards. The final line was weird too, because like, oh the Wraith,
- 16:55now we're here, blah blah blah, and then a Shepherd's like,
- 16:57we're gonna need some fire apart, and then fade to black, and that
- 17:02is like a hint to what next week's episode is about. But they don't
- 17:08know anything about what happens next week yet. It's not it's like it's a
- 17:11callback to anything. It's something completely new that we've never known about before.
- 17:15And I'm like, that is a really weird sort of cliffhangery sort of a
- 17:22thing to dangle in front of the audience for next week because the writers have
- 17:26written that knowing what they're writing for. Yeah, like they've written to it,
- 17:29but it's like, well, no one knows about next week yet,
- 17:32and yeah, obviously we'll get to that with the next episode, but yeah,
- 17:36I thought that was quite odd. I'm very torn with this episode because
- 17:40I know what's coming and I remember enjoying it the first time I watched it,
- 17:45but every time it comes around again, I'm like, oh, I
- 17:48feel like the twist has gone as well, so yeah, i feel like
- 17:52I'm just forcing my way to I think they lean a little bit too much
- 17:55on Michael as well. By the by the time you get to sort of
- 17:57some of these later appearances, I'm like this again. Really yeah, and
- 18:02I feel like he I will say this, He's acting was really good because
- 18:07once from the point where he wakes up to when he gets the DVDs,
- 18:12he's like this really innocent, nice guy, and as soon as he gets
- 18:17the DVDs and he's betrayed, he becomes more sinister. Obviously they play the
- 18:21music, but it's like he goes John Malkovich like the way he talks sometimes
- 18:26interesting. You know, they're just just pulling from a really good pool of
- 18:30actors. You know, the whole thing is an experiment. Remember, how
- 18:33far can we turn him into a human being? Doesn't not necessarily what we're
- 18:37going to do. What the original experiment was, how many people, how
- 18:40many cast members from the Star Trek series could we employ? That's what I'm
- 18:45going experimazing, which is working out very well. Yes, we have been
- 18:48very lucky, very lucky. That's one. He's very lucky. I need
- 18:53to bring that into it. I get why it's in delaway is just like
- 18:56imagine popping in, just popping in for a little bit, but audio comment
- 19:00direct the chat great bits for you guys later, where that's just two directors
- 19:03in a room just chatting about I did like I did, like the part
- 19:07where where Taylor was saying, oh, like we rescued you from the Wraith
- 19:14blah blah blah, and we saved you. And then he comes along saying,
- 19:17basically, you told me that you saved me. Yeah. Yeah,
- 19:21Actually, Michael, I know you were angry. I am sorry for what
- 19:26you have been put through. But in time, I think you may come
- 19:30to see this is were you part of the team that captured me. You
- 19:34told me before that you and your team rescued me when I was captured by
- 19:41the Raith, So what I had told you was true and excellent. Yeah,
- 19:51the gas lighting was incredible in this and then just like trying to and
- 19:56I just feel like, like I get there was an experiment, but it
- 19:57just wasn't really thought all the way through, Like can Beck. It went
- 20:03for you have diabetes? No, which which was where did that that?
- 20:07That's that's their excuse for why they injections But not not that Michael would know,
- 20:11but just internally, I'm like, can someone who needs to get insulin
- 20:17injections from diabetes actively serve like the world like that in the first place,
- 20:22Like, like, I don't know, can you be out in combat scenarios
- 20:25if you're insulin dependent, true dependent, but yeah, that's obviously a special
- 20:32circumstance because an alien. But I just mean just in general real world,
- 20:36like if you if you have type one diabetes and you're relying on insulin injections,
- 20:38like can you go out in the field and do stuff like that?
- 20:41So I'm like that was weird. And then can Beckett went full missus doubt
- 20:45fire and just went, oh I shanek fati, donkey, there's my there's
- 20:51my calendar that says the Wonderful Ruling Hills of ken More. That's your last
- 20:55name. It's your last name? Like what? And it was of like
- 21:00the two complete opposites were that, Like it's like, oh, we just
- 21:03literally saw a word on the wall, and when that's his last name,
- 21:07and then when he's watching the DVDs and you've got it weird, Yeah,
- 21:15shepardically backwards for me to say, and Ronan both like holding him and he's
- 21:19like you go and they're like, oh yeah, you like that. What
- 21:22do we call your name? How do you like? Mike? And I'm
- 21:23like, oh my god, you're torturing this, like you like that.
- 21:29You're never gonna see Daylight again, and then it's like, your last name
- 21:33is ken More and I'm like, oh what, Yeah, the hell of
- 21:37what have we become? My name is? My name is Max Power.
- 21:40I saw it on a hair drove and apparently it's it's a thing, like
- 21:45it's a trope. It's called a line of sight name. I look at
- 21:48us like that's like the writing term for it, a line of sight name.
- 21:52Yeah, I've seen it in so many movies. Yeah, and even
- 21:56like we needed to get with a big chunk where no one knows what's going
- 22:00on at the audience doesn't Michael doesn't the team Atlanti's team and not telling the
- 22:07audience what's going on. They're speaking in code to each other like Taylor,
- 22:08They're going, I just don't think we should lie to him. Why can't
- 22:12we tell him the truth? And knewers of viewer like, whoa, my
- 22:15god, Okay, we knew you guys were being funny around him, but
- 22:18now we know you actively like this is why I don't like Elizabeth weir lea
- 22:25out of this, mate. It's her decision. There was no passion behind
- 22:30and then m and then we get at the end where he needs to escape.
- 22:33He needs to revert back to being a wraith, and we need to
- 22:34go and trace him down before he goes back and spreads our secrets. But
- 22:38that what's the what's the what's the shifting point? Well, he unsupervised walks
- 22:45in, Oh, doctor Beckett, Doctor Beckett, and Beckett is just there
- 22:48asleep at his desk. Now. I lead up to that though, is
- 22:52you should get some rest. Yeah, And then and then the cute soldier
- 22:57that was like escorting him got distracted by like not even a hot nurse,
- 23:03just a random not even hot, not even bastard. They're just like,
- 23:11so, hey, how you doing. They're just catching up in the corner,
- 23:15and I'm just like, come on, nurse, how you doing?
- 23:21Still think you get a chance with me? Hello? Average nurse? But
- 23:26I I just I was looking at the way that Beckett was sleeping, and
- 23:33I'm like, I don't he was his arm that was holding his head up
- 23:37was too far away from his body that I don't know that I buy the
- 23:41balance that would have been required to have that be a stable and long sleep
- 23:48longevity behind it to be able to sustain this sort of sleep, deep sleep
- 23:52that he was clearly having. When Michael's walking around his room. He's picking
- 23:56stuff up, he's grabbing things out of cupboards and shit, I'm like,
- 24:00I don't know. And I say that more Maddie laughs because he goes,
- 24:03oh, you have a floor nap, because I can lay down on the
- 24:06floor and I'm asleep in two minutes and put me somewhere still and I lose
- 24:10consciousness today. Not half an hour before I watched that episode, I was
- 24:14sitting on my couch, but kind of sitting. I think I was trying
- 24:18to keep myself away because my wife and I are doing some like adult financial
- 24:22stuff, not not adult fun stuff. But finally I've got a stuff.
- 24:26I'm so dog tied. Kind of financial stuff isn't an adult exactly. I
- 24:30was just like, I'm just saying mentally, mentally, I'm a child.
- 24:34So it was a real level, you know. It wasn't just I'm an
- 24:37adult doing financial stuff. I'm a child doing adult things. And I am
- 24:42half like my body's off, like laying off the couch where my ass basically
- 24:47is hanging off the edge of the couch and my and then my stuff now
- 24:52instead of having my feet to rest in the coffee table, I've got my
- 24:56like they're just on the edge of the table. So I've got my legs
- 24:57in like a little triangular shape. Right, Why are we talking about this?
- 25:00Never what I was saying, I was, I was, this is
- 25:03trying for the way that I was asleep. I was like my ass was
- 25:08pulling my body towards the ground. Gravity was working somehow I was suspended between
- 25:15the couch and the coffee coffee table, telling you I was, I was,
- 25:21I was deep asleep. Sarah looked back and she said deep and she
- 25:27said, can you give me that document? And it like you know when
- 25:30you get it, brought out of a deep sleep where like my heart was
- 25:33just pounding and thank you, I was pounding and it was deep. But
- 25:38the thing is I did that. I slept in a position document. I
- 25:41slept in a position that I could not believe that it was possible. And
- 25:45then I watched that episode, I'm like, oh shit, I couldn't believe
- 25:49that that was a real way that he was sleeping. Just to allow Michael
- 25:53to get the evidence that turned the story around to get to the second half
- 25:59that they wanted to get to, I've seen you sleep in the weirdest position.
- 26:04Absolutely, there was one I think there was even a double bed at
- 26:07one point, and Sarah was on one side of the double bed and you
- 26:11were like sitting on it, on the edge that she was on, like
- 26:15so you're probably not even your full asses on it, and then talking to
- 26:19her. She's fallen asleep, and you instead of going on to the other
- 26:23side of the bed where there was space, you just slept there. It
- 26:26takes too long to get over there in the morning, Like, look at
- 26:30this idiot right as I'm saying today it makes today it was another level how
- 26:40you can't talk. You can't talk about saying, shark, can you stop
- 26:45moving? I described myself to everybody. I'm like a shark, but not
- 26:48the cool ways. If I stopped moving, I'm unconscious, That's what I'm
- 26:52saying. I fell asleep in such a ridiculous and unbelievable way today that I
- 26:56still looked at Beckett went, I don't, I don't, I don't.
- 26:57I don't think so. But what really got me about the follow it that
- 27:00scene. The following scene is how rough he was sticking those CDs into the
- 27:04CD drive, like it was a real click, and I'm like, you're
- 27:07going to break the DVD roll. He found the rom drive. That's exactly
- 27:12how much you don't know how to shake hands a sudden finding the eject button.
- 27:17How much did it take you all back to like the early two thousands
- 27:18though, when we all had that case in our glove box and the last
- 27:22CD I had those exact DVDs burnt of Atlanta Season one. Oh wow,
- 27:29that's what's really cool. Yeah wow, yeah, the good old days,
- 27:33because at that point I wasn't gonna buy it, like, no, it's
- 27:37not SQ one, yeah, not convenientenough. I just I just started.
- 27:42I lost, I lost all concentration there where he was very thing that broke
- 27:47my like like, oh that's ticking me. Was Taylor like riding the gate
- 27:52address on the rock back because even when we don't we don't need him,
- 27:57we don't need Rodney. And he holds up the rock and the camera just
- 28:00kept getting close and I'm like, I can't read it. They can't read
- 28:03it, they can't read it again, and then they stopped on like the
- 28:06wow shot that was it. There's a lot of scratches that were already there
- 28:10well. And also remembering that in Atlanta, like it's not like the Milky
- 28:12Way in the Pegasus Galaxy the gate addresses look like brail. They're like dot
- 28:17dot dot with like lines through them and stuff like that. I'm like,
- 28:21yeah, I couldn't. I couldn't pick one. That's her writing behind her
- 28:26back. Yeah, yeah, weird symbols that she might not have ever seen
- 28:30before, and she and he's doing it like quick enough. Yeah, she's
- 28:33having to commit those to memory very quickly to then write them as if she's
- 28:36very familiar and they weren't in a line. I think right now, if
- 28:38one of us turned someone else around and wrote on our backs and it'd be
- 28:44like, oh, I'm going to write something, it's oh, did you
- 28:45write my name? So like no, I drew a cock and balls,
- 28:48like we have no idea. It just feels like March, you have no
- 28:52idea. You can't picture if you tie my hands behind my back, and
- 28:55from what Mitch was saying before, I actually wouldn't mind that, and then
- 28:57maybe like scratch, like justep, just write my name like scratching a rock
- 29:03onto another rock. You wouldn't be able to tell that was my own name,
- 29:06not at all, let alone all those gates symbol she's an alien.
- 29:10Yeah, true, fixed, let's go with it. Speaking of Aliens.
- 29:17I heard a little bit in um the audio commentary where they talk about Ronan's
- 29:22gun, the actual physical prop itself. Yet did got to work out in
- 29:26this episode? Yeah, well you need to work out just to hand.
- 29:29It wasn't set to stun Roanan. I thought you forget to put it the
- 29:33stunt. So Martin and Peter both said that gun like you'll find you know,
- 29:41early on, Ronan would always be like holding it out. Yeah,
- 29:42not so much anymore. That thing weighs eight pounds, that prop with all
- 29:48the electronics and stuff in it. So umbo conversion dot com necessary, guys,
- 29:52three point six kilograms gonna say about like size of my cock. That's
- 29:56what you're going to say, was dump Now I was going, so I've
- 30:00got a fur kilo wait at home, and I still don't work out.
- 30:03I wish I would have said, penis, Yeah, that's heavy, that's
- 30:06necessarily that equivalent to three point six kilos. Yeah, I know, But
- 30:11have you got something that's like I didn't go into that tab of conversion dot
- 30:15com. Watermelon heavy would be about it, like heavier than a standard brick
- 30:18right where you decided your cock? Yes, but only three people in this
- 30:22room have held. It's like it's like to two liter bottles of milk in
- 30:30one hand, kilos to say white flint si. Wow, Okay, that's
- 30:36heavy. Yeah, well a leader of waterways a kilogram. Yeah yeah,
- 30:40yeah his milk milk would be heavier. This is a deep cut reference.
- 30:42No, no, I had this. I had this same fight with my
- 30:47homec teacher in grade nine where she's like you when I would measure things by
- 30:51weight instead of liquid, and it'll be like, get five hundred meals of
- 30:53milk is half a kilo of milk? Get? Yeah? But liquid mercury's
- 30:57different density than out liquid water. Yeah, we're not using mercury in home
- 31:02at class? What do you make your pancakes with? I mean, yeah,
- 31:07it's close enough. I agree with you. Yeah you get you get
- 31:11a one leader bottle of milk out of the fridge, put it on scallet
- 31:14kill kilmah right, didn't know that for sure. Yeah, that's heavy.
- 31:19It's a heavy prop Yeah, falling into the paint. That's holding out one
- 31:22with one arm. It's kind of ergonomic, though. I wonder how much
- 31:26a glock or something like that is. M don't know. It wouldn't be
- 31:33more than like half a kilo. I reckon, I've only been I've been
- 31:36shooting a couple of times. And yeah, they like, again we're speaking
- 31:40to an American audience, like, guys like, how do you not know
- 31:41how heavy guns are? Well, we just don't us just put it,
- 31:45just put a pause on this and wait till the next week of the week
- 31:47after when Craig's here. Yeah about that's true. Yeah, so according to
- 31:52this said ways fully loaded as twenty nine point six ounces, So that doesn't
- 31:57help. No, jump on a version. How much is twenty nine ounds?
- 32:00Is nothing? No, that's it doesn't make sense. Yeah, one
- 32:12one point seven pounds load, it's not that bad. How many ounces?
- 32:15How many ounces did you say? Twenty nine point six Twenty nine point six
- 32:20ounces is eight hundred and thirty nine grams, so less than a kilo.
- 32:25Oh my god. You can kill people with it. M hm as lights
- 32:30and you can bite it walm up kicks like a muley um. Taylor,
- 32:36Taylor, she got another new top. I didn't see her navel. That's
- 32:43what you're looking out for. Yeah, well image. I found myself looking
- 32:45at that as well when she was doing the riding behind her, Like they
- 32:49zoom down very close and like, why's she got a bit of top where
- 32:53she's she's always showing off. Yeah, and that's tough on the actor.
- 32:58Martin would felt really really bad because that scene, Like there's the point where
- 33:01no, just on record, he felt real bad. Yeah, just before
- 33:05that, just before twenty seventeen, fine, you know, we made some
- 33:13six. There was a scene just before that where Michael like they're on the
- 33:16planet. Michael has Taylor and she's like got and he's like it's a shot
- 33:22from like the waist up and he's kind of just like wriggling and sliding in
- 33:25behind her. And Martin was like, if you just walked into the room
- 33:29and saw this, she would think something very different is going on. But
- 33:31it was actually him like reaching to get like the gun out from behind her
- 33:35or something like that. Yeah, but it kind of does look like he's
- 33:37a bit molesty. That's fine. Yeah. What I had a bigger issue
- 33:43with was that she ran with him to the stargate. Yeah, he picked
- 33:46her up by the elbow and they both sprinted into the event horizon. Roland
- 33:52was one step behind them and missed the puddle. Yeah, and see I
- 33:57was like, Taylor just drag your feet dead dead weight. But that was
- 34:01pretty cool though, like to be able to like to see roning just like
- 34:05he cut off a just throw if it won't run flying through it's too quick,
- 34:08not just the right moment. I want to say. It's one of
- 34:10those examples that you guys say where the CGI lets down, either the narrative
- 34:15or the performance, where the event horizon disappears and then he decides to jump,
- 34:23and I'm like, oh, I wish the event horizon would have half
- 34:27a second later and then you would have seen him go to launch and then
- 34:30it disappears. Because I felt it was just you know, this is more
- 34:34of a football reference to Brendan and I, but it's like when you see
- 34:37someone go to make a tackle, then they've got no chance of making They're
- 34:42not going to stop if someone from scoring and try and footy, but they
- 34:44have to look like for their coach that they made an effort and someone three
- 34:47meters they've ran past them by three meters. Oh jump out. It's like,
- 34:52see I got my jersey dirty women's soccer. That's why I do that.
- 34:55Yeah, that's that's one God. Yeah, I had a big issue
- 35:02with that because if you think about it and ronand would know if he had
- 35:07thrown his sword into it, it would still be it would still be accepting
- 35:15matter into the world. He could also hit Taylor. Okay, well it's
- 35:19a big stargate, mate, throw it over there. Do you know what?
- 35:22Do you know? What? Do you know what's closer than the stargate
- 35:24though the DHD. Yeah, he could have just run to that and look
- 35:30at the address. I thought he meant turned it off. Well, that
- 35:34isn't because remember that there was only one episode where they've done that, is
- 35:37pressed that and it shut it down, which we don't know if that's actually
- 35:39cannon. I feel like, after what nearly eleven seasons worth of watching this
- 35:45show, I should just know the signs behind it enough to not ask this.
- 35:49But you know, yet, we can have an entire team going through
- 35:53and then you get you know, Jackson and O'Neill that are at the bottom
- 35:58of the ramp and they'll talk for two minutes about some kind of you know,
- 36:00political disagreement and they're having they're the last two to go through, and
- 36:05that worm old just stays open where is this until they walk through? And
- 36:07then yeah, and then it's going. But then you've got Michael and Taylor.
- 36:10As soon as they walk through, it shuts down because it knows it
- 36:14just opened. There's no thirty eight minute business like Stargate knows. I go,
- 36:19yeah, Stargate, you're so dramatic. What sh make he thinks it's
- 36:25so handsome, looks like a fall. There's actually a little hidden like webcam
- 36:29inside the gap in the gate itself. It saves that footage and sends it
- 36:34to the other gate so that they can have a chuckle about it. Yeah,
- 36:37the blue for real. Yeah, the ancients gair version of funny own
- 36:40videos. Yeah, look at this guy. We cut his foot off in
- 36:44the venera. It's so great. The idiots. They don't even know how
- 36:47to keep it wormle open. Yeah, but we don't know how that works.
- 36:53Yeah, okay, it's just whatever the writers want, even if because
- 36:59they wouldn't be at the other gate yet. No, takes a couple of
- 37:01seconds to get through there. Yeah, but they're just in a transfer window
- 37:07at that point. It's just a little bit annoying because it just accepted.
- 37:12Get it, you know, yeah yeah, like and then yeah I get
- 37:15it, like yeah, Like it wouldn't have been any worse if Ronan was
- 37:20further away and the gate cut out and he was still halfway through. It
- 37:23was just that they could do the cool jump yeah, sort of going through,
- 37:27but but yeah, it's like a couple more seconds if if Michael and
- 37:30Taylor had gone through earlier and it was still open, it's open, yeah,
- 37:35and then nowhere inside but then run Yeah. Yeah, I remember there's
- 37:38that, you know, and it's the it's the gate. There's got a
- 37:40gate meme where it's like O'Neil standing next to the open gate and like he
- 37:45ducks because there's that shot and then he walks through. It's like if it
- 37:47was that kind of distance where like Ronan's far enough away to see them walk
- 37:52through the gate and then he's got you know, five or six seconds to
- 37:54spring over there to jump through and then doesn't make it. But yeah,
- 37:59to have that but it was good to kind of see like the backside of
- 38:01the puddle and then see Michael and Taylor disappear and then there was at him
- 38:07come through. Yeah. I think that was probably the main Yeah. I
- 38:09think it was one of those things where it's like, yeah, they probably
- 38:13got caught up in the coolness of what they were doing, Like it's a
- 38:15new thing that that hasn't been done before and then not thought about the gate
- 38:20logistics. And we've said that many times. It just depends on the writer
- 38:24and director and exactly the day. Yeah. Now, speaking of the writing,
- 38:30I guess we have to address the elephant in the room, which is
- 38:34you know, this episode is obviously inspired by another very you know, popular
- 38:42sci fi television Showica that's um, you know, been quite popular Sliders Fast.
- 38:49Well, this is not unlike an out of limits episode that Rate Pen,
- 38:53where there's own effect and they and he's put in a cell and cell
- 39:00was a woman yep, I remember, And and she is slowly but surely
- 39:05being turned into this lizard like horrible alien being. And at the end we
- 39:09find out that that she yeah, she has elicited all these secrets from Roberah
- 39:15Patrick, but in fact she's not being turned into an alien. She's being
- 39:20turned back into an alien. She started as an alien and she was a
- 39:23human only temporarily. And I think that's a great story. A punk Joel
- 39:30Lucky we didn't give in and Robert Patrick. Yeah, it's a nice little
- 39:37tie back into the show. Yeah. Actually, it's just great when when
- 39:39we can freely talk about how other science fiction inspires other science fiction, you
- 39:45know, how they're all just just all together. We're all in this together.
- 39:51Yeah. Yeah, I guess high school Musical is not gonna be my
- 39:52waiter to get in here, is it. I mean we're still getting us
- 39:58to the Gilmore Girls, so you know, baby steps into into high school
- 40:01musical. Um, yeah, I was. I was sitting there struggling to
- 40:06try and remember what I think that I know about this show and Conrane and
- 40:10trying to remember what did the guys say back in the origins chat like the
- 40:15fact that they remember this guy's but I feel like I recognize him from pictures
- 40:21of SGA and I haven't seen a second of that show. Does he does
- 40:24he remain? Do they change him back and he becomes another like you know
- 40:29Til, remember Ishta, the chick from m S. G One, She's
- 40:34there the head of the Hacktil and Til's girlfriend. Yeah, the Female Warriors.
- 40:38Yeah, would you be interested in a scene where she's wearing like a
- 40:43tiny little skimpy singlet and tiny little underwear and Michael is wearing like a blue
- 40:47singlet and tiny line underwear and they're just like and they're just like rubbing,
- 40:52rubbing, like glittery vasoline over each other, under like this blue light.
- 40:55Does he touch her boobs? Yes, he gets under boob gets under.
- 41:00I would like that. Yeah, that's that's the first episode of Enterprise.
- 41:05That's why I said say no, at least spring spring the content, guys.
- 41:12And you know how it affects me to use the C word like that.
- 41:15Yeah, I struggled to say it in real life, now, you
- 41:19know. I kind of annoyed me that you're welcome. We were talking about
- 41:23doctor Beckett naming Michael after the town in Scotland, More Ken Moore. Why
- 41:30didn't he name like, make his last name Scott, Yeah, Michael Scott,
- 41:37brilliant from the office. Either you're gonna say what but there's all because
- 41:44Scotland, I get it. Yeah. Um, Either you're gonna say why
- 41:46didn't he just name him Ken? First name, last name More? Yeah?
- 41:52Good point, you know, Lieutenant Ken More Ken More. Yeah,
- 41:55that would be even more of a and then the episode title would Ken can
- 42:01I? Yeah? I guess. Also the question then can he read English?
- 42:07Kenny? Ever, He's like Ken, but that's my last name me?
- 42:14Can you read English? Bar? You're right, he can read ancient
- 42:16and wraith and English. Apparently that's part of the inoculation. Yeah, well,
- 42:22I mean he speaks with a southern accent. Mm yeah, and then
- 42:28he turns John Malkovich. But yeah, they would have to How how did
- 42:32they get that into into the brain? The the wow, how dear he
- 42:37didn't dog? Yeah kind of accent. Well, it's just like offended you
- 42:42grown just by just my pickup truck made me cry? Yea. And what's
- 42:49that song? Uh? My dog didn't cry? This is the song they're
- 42:52playing on here all the time. Yeah, last nah, we led the
- 42:57liquor talk um killed up? Let go sure love it? Um lik a
- 43:05barn, lick a barn, what parts the barn whatever you needed to be,
- 43:10you know, big rusty barn door any barns a barn with? I
- 43:15don't know, I don't know. Um. I was surprised in a way
- 43:19that not so much for the narrative because it guess it was angling that way,
- 43:25but as a personal choice. He doesn't remember. He still doesn't,
- 43:30right, Like even though he's turning back into a wraith, it's not like
- 43:34he remembers like when he went to that plan that planet with all the wraith
- 43:37ships and everything goes. This place was calling to me like he obviously had
- 43:40it deep within him somewhere to like he knows the address or whatever, but
- 43:45it wasn't like he has remember Maybe he will get to a point when he
- 43:49fully turns back into Raith that he gets regained all of his memories or something.
- 43:52Maybe part of the insulin is a memory suppressant or whatever. But that
- 43:58just at this point where he decides to, yeah, I'm getting called to
- 44:02this place, and he decides to follow that calling, And maybe he knew
- 44:07that it was going to be an itch. He could never properly scratch,
- 44:09so he had to do it, but I almost expected him. He hates
- 44:14the Wraith because he's been told since he woke up eighteen minutes ago to hate
- 44:17the Wraith. He's a human, but now he feels betrayed by the humans
- 44:23there. He doesn't feel like he has a home anywhere, and rather than
- 44:27just go somewhere neutral and take Taylor as a hostage or something, he's like,
- 44:30I'm going back to the Wraith. That they seem all right. They
- 44:34might be bad, but they couldn't be worse than you guys who lied to
- 44:37me. I'm going to go back to them, and oh really, is
- 44:39there only a choice between the two, Like, I just feel like he
- 44:44got the vibe that was instinctual. Yeah, well that's why I thought when
- 44:45he said it called to me. But I'm just like, I'm surprised that
- 44:49he didn't maybe try to go to somewhere neutral. But then just he again,
- 44:52we're gonna run at a time in the episode, but still he didn't
- 44:55feel I've got to try and escape this. But then like his hung go
- 45:00was going to give into it eventually. Yeah, I was the thing that
- 45:02you know, He's like, well, I'm going to find out for myself
- 45:07what the wraith I like, because you've lied to me about everything else,
- 45:10So how do I know what's the whether the stuff he's saying about the raith
- 45:15is um it's true or not? As well? Did he get his fanny
- 45:17hand back? Yeah, he started to showed it to Taylor at the end.
- 45:21Yeah I bet he did, no, but did he couldn't Like he
- 45:25was about to. Yeah, he was literally about to, and then Ronan
- 45:29shot him. Oh luckily he luckily he stopped. He showed the hand,
- 45:32put it close to her boobileage show with the hand and then pulled it back
- 45:36like that to like fully just smash it into our um and then Ronan shot
- 45:40him. More cleavage would be better. What I want to know is Atlantis
- 45:47must have like a barber there now. Oh yeah, definitely, because someone
- 45:52gave him, well, someone gave him a snazzy haircut. Yeah, they
- 45:55would have had to cut down all those my weird baby snipper. So I
- 46:02love that they took the time to like gel it as well and like spike
- 46:06it frosted tips, I mean frosted tits. Yeah, you got to make
- 46:10him look good. What was the year twenty two? I mean, obviously
- 46:15Contry just showed up with that air, But they didn't have to like put
- 46:20gel and style it in it, did they. He's in the hospital,
- 46:22he's in the hospital bed. Well, I mean it was all matted from
- 46:27the That's what I mean. Someone had to cut it and style it wash
- 46:30its like in like in Universe, someone on Atlantis had to like cut it
- 46:34and gell it and spike it and frost it. Was it. A therapist
- 46:39would have been doing something. She does nothing around there, Like she tries
- 46:44to talk to her own He's like, no, no, she's stupid.
- 46:47He's not human. I love that line reading stupid woman. Yeah, And
- 46:52she's like, oh my god, would you like to talk to me?
- 46:55And he's like, no, you betrayed me the person that actually he's meant,
- 47:01yeah, you know, I'm supposed to trust. And then she's like,
- 47:05oh why not? Plus beck And remember remember Beckett when like, you
- 47:08know, in the States, and I guess he's you know, he's a
- 47:10Scottish doctor and stuff, but most doctors do the Hyppocratic growth with like it's
- 47:15first, do no harm, did a lot of harm? Well he's not
- 47:20in Scotland anymore. He looked like he was enjoying it too. He loved
- 47:23it. They're in one of the scenes and Michael's talking and they're all just
- 47:27it was either that or he was like a child trying to keep a secret,
- 47:30but trying to let you know that he's got a secret that he's keeping
- 47:34from you. Because I'm sitting there looking at Knot. He's got like a
- 47:38little bit of a smile and he didn't blink, and he's a yeah,
- 47:43yeah, that's great. That's why. That's why I don't blame Weird,
- 47:45because you know, he just Weird whined and pleaded with her to be that
- 47:50person. Did she have to do it? No? She was just like
- 47:54this in accents giving me a headache. If I just say yeah, will
- 48:00you go away? I think that to me, that's what well. No,
- 48:05because she was the one at the end of saying like when they had
- 48:06the big meeting, She's like, we don't have the right to do this.
- 48:09Oh yeah, yeah in hindsight, No, that's what I mean.
- 48:14So you can inside she was about to kill old Ponytail boy. Fine,
- 48:20I wouldn't have done that. I would have loved to air from that is
- 48:23that she didn't want to happen. She had reservations John, but the patient
- 48:32fiddler Beckett wanted another hot patient to fiddle with like he did with that ascended
- 48:37chick last season. Yeah, so she's like, oh, Beckett, if
- 48:40I just say yes, can he go away? Do you reckon? He
- 48:45got in amongst that fanny hand? Absolutely, I want to know he had,
- 48:52because one there was Michael unconscious in a bed bound down with a fanny
- 48:58hand. Of course, because he's had he's had the Queen one or the
- 49:02one from the pilot you know seven one, the seven one that's old and
- 49:07kind of rotting. Yeah, he's like he's he's been popping it in the
- 49:10microwave. Yeah, every night. That's why des like a whopper. Yeah,
- 49:19right hand in the hand. He invented the first HBJ. It's both
- 49:22yeah yeah yeah, and then he's like fresh meat. Yeah when he when
- 49:28he goes back to Earth, he's gonna get a fleshlight and he's gonna be
- 49:30like, could you do with flesh like you can get like you can get
- 49:32a vagina attachment or a face attachment or a but attach. I didn't know
- 49:36that he's gonna be like, he's gonna be like, well, can I
- 49:39get a wraith hand attachment? That's what he's going to need on his fleshlight.
- 49:43Yeah, I'm gonna need it in a pale white yeah. Yeah.
- 49:45Atlantis is out of blue Jello out? Did you get the dead list here
- 49:51quick? Yeah? Yeah. What you need to do is send the ZPM
- 49:54back so you can get blue jello. Yeah you're not that work? Why
- 50:00do you take that off the menu? Well, with the Daedalust you send
- 50:05it back with the so then Earth can dial Atlantis and just ship jello.
- 50:07Yeah, and then wait and then wait for the ZEPM to come back.
- 50:12Um, leave it there for the jello just in case get really quick shipments.
- 50:19Yeah, I mean you know I wouldn't say no. Yeah, I
- 50:22mean the Wraith don't know we're there, so we don't technically well, I
- 50:25mean they need they do, as at the end of this episode they do
- 50:30now, so I guess that's that's why they've run out of blue jello.
- 50:32So the jen I know we're here, and now the Wraith do great leadership,
- 50:37Elizabeth, how share here? I was about to ask you guys before,
- 50:45do you feel cheated that we didn't get to see that conversation around the
- 50:52ethical Yes, nightmare it was to get a person, a being of a
- 50:59species. Where did he come from? Yeah, but just decided, hey,
- 51:05let's like the hierarchy of the Raith. Yeah, they've they've captured him
- 51:08before. I haven't remember. They remember when they thought Taylor was the mole
- 51:14and they had and they went and captured Raith. And because there was the
- 51:15Raith that had the there was the drawing guy that had the bomb in his
- 51:19chest and stuff. And we've had a couple of Raith in there. I'm
- 51:22not saying it's impossible. I'm just interested because it's cool. And and then
- 51:27yeah, like we're like the cerebral sci fi chats. So yeah, Reese
- 51:31likes the bang bang. We like the talkie talkie and bang bang. I'm
- 51:35not allow I get in trouble when I say that. I'm and I do
- 51:42feel betrayed that I didn't get to see that Yea that was actually one of
- 51:45Reese's pet hates. Is not being a part of not being the fifth member
- 51:49of Yea our team. Are we saying that we want a prequel of this
- 51:52episode? Is that what we're saying, Well, frequel is a dirty word,
- 51:57but deleted scene, old flashback, yes, director's cut, director's cut.
- 52:05Yeah, but yeah, maybe we don't see it, which obviously we
- 52:08don't, which saves us from having to really have a tangible moment that we
- 52:15can blame the whole thing on. We are because she has to waka.
- 52:20Yeah, let's kidnap a wraith and tests a drug we don't. This is
- 52:24the test to test that it works, and let's just hope that it does.
- 52:29Otherwise our sworn enemy will know that this place exists, when that's what
- 52:34we've been trying to keep secret for the last nine months. You know,
- 52:36she had misgivings the whole way through this. Yeah. Only it was like,
- 52:40Carson, are you finished with that hand? I need it? Tape
- 52:46it up, fist two fingers. Wow, okay, John, Carson's not
- 52:53going to do that. That's John. There's no point. There's no point
- 52:57having a there's no point having a wraith hand to turn into a fist because
- 53:00then you can't access anything. Then is just a normal human hand. Yeah,
- 53:05she kept the rings. You know how the Raith queen had the rings.
- 53:07Yeah, that's what that's what we're kept. Oh god, how's wilfee?
- 53:12John called to John. Now, I hate it? I hate it?
- 53:21Can we go? Can we leave? Oh? It was that's sexist,
- 53:23Mattie. It was all right when we were talking about doctor Beckett a
- 53:29rape hand. Yeah, but I hate doctor Beckett. I don't hate I
- 53:32see I picked up with the other week I don't know what we're talking about,
- 53:35and you got we wrapped up talking about Beckett somehow, and you go,
- 53:37but I've always missed it until the other weekend, and it was just
- 53:40like pure silence, and you're like, I can hate that guy, and
- 53:45then we quickly I think he's doctor Lee. Brennan moved on because he'd obviously
- 53:51known. That's how you feel. Whereas me, I'm like, no,
- 53:52he mustn't have been talking about Beckett, Like how can we hate Beckett now
- 53:55ever since he started molesting his patients last season, I'm like no. And
- 54:00plus you let a turtle die so you can get we baby we baby turtles.
- 54:06Yeah. Yeah, Um, I've got some audio here that you can
- 54:10play for. You can do it you want, we can cut it out.
- 54:13If it's not it might be long. I don't know, like I
- 54:15played obviously played on having proper and audio shit, but yeah, human,
- 54:20it's played. No, not Mitch. There's got something he called director Chats.
- 54:22I just look, you guys might like it because it's just Martin Wooden,
- 54:25Peter Delaway. He's just love it, shooting shit all double dream.
- 54:30I love this. This is obligatory as well. If you wake up from
- 54:35a nightmare, you have to build up an upbreak. You can't you still
- 54:37yourself in Amica. This is in camera effect right here. There's no visual
- 54:40effect involved in this. So you're obviously going off the the go on onto
- 54:45the big guns and onto the guns after the guns, that's for you,
- 54:49and then whip on and in this whip and all we do is have James
- 54:53lafast on us uh the RAF standing in the same position. So we whip
- 54:58over, lock the camera off, yeah, and James is there, and
- 55:01then we pan back and whip on again, and all we end up doing
- 55:07is cutting at that cut on the and uh and the whip works magically.
- 55:10That was beautiful and no extra money was spent on. No, we can
- 55:16put that money into trying to get bigger and better star Treker, better stars
- 55:20onto this. So the thing we're not talking about than Connor, I meant
- 55:22bigger and better than any of the ones we've sure missed. Well bigger.
- 55:29I don't know if we're gonna find any bigger not than Connor, and for
- 55:32that matter better, I mean, look at those eyes. I legitimately forgot
- 55:37that was on the end. Well, hold on before we got, before
- 55:44we go, I've got, I've got just a little and then a little
- 55:45bit. Just don't back it, just don't back it. No. My
- 55:51most prolific direction to Paul, you're not ruling your rs enough and now is
- 55:57do you have that I don't. Actually we only speak tweeting. This is
- 56:00the truth, Paul mcgillian, and I only speak to each other at accent.
- 56:04We have never not spoken to each other. I wish I had that
- 56:07kind of relations Scottish accent. That is the truth. That's great. I
- 56:12don't. I didn't even know he could speak another language, another language.
- 56:16That's three, yeah that three. A line has to be drawn here,
- 56:22just far. I'm no father, um, just a bit of male bag
- 56:30quickly, Hey boys listening. This is from Damo Edwards, Big Demo,
- 56:36Hey boys, listening to the latest app The Scourge. And when you finished
- 56:39after the Corn's outto in the ad plays, I had to screenshot and send
- 56:45this through to you. Who knew you boys were so up the far up
- 56:47the train that the government sponsors you attached. This is what Demo heard on
- 56:52his after SG one podcast the other week. Bye, get in the gate,
- 57:04Get in the Gate star Gate podcast. Get into it now before it's
- 57:08too late. Auso rised by the Australian Government Canberra. And she has like
- 57:14some kind of woid by. I ain't got the camera. She sounds weird.
- 57:21Good word to Amo, um perfect Tommy. You know what's weird is
- 57:27about Elizabeth Wee. Now that Maddy Kant talk, she was like John,
- 57:34John, I'm bored John Johnny, I'm so bored. The Jedi don't know
- 57:39where we are, The Wraith don't know where we are. What are we
- 57:43gonna do for our season? For nale o'h my god, like, all
- 57:49right, let's get the Jedi back and then let's get the Raith back again.
- 57:52I'm a god. Now we're excited. Everybody gets some guns. Can
- 57:57you put everything? Everyone's safe? Now that Aizabeth in charge? Do you
- 58:01think they're doing like a yearly review and she's gonna look like she's hitting a
- 58:05settin quota of Yeah, yeah, X amount of Jeni an X amount of
- 58:10wrath? How do I break the fourth wall? And had the synopsis read
- 58:15that I came up with a solution Yeah twice, not once, but twice.
- 58:20One of them I didn't even feature in the episode to the last five
- 58:22minutes, and I'm gonna blame Beckett Carson. Give me that in hand,
- 58:27you asshole. Grease up your car, you Tilena Pace of Ship. Get
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- 58:42into it now before it's too late.