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- 0:01[SPEAKER_02]: What happens to Todd Bowles of the Bucks fall to O and five and go winless to begin the twenty twenty six season.
- 0:09[SPEAKER_02]: We just got a latest report from ESPN.
- 0:12[SPEAKER_02]: We're also going to give our thoughts on what should happen.
- 0:16[SPEAKER_02]: If they don't show much of any fight and this game and things get ugly and Dallas, I'll be on hand for it tomorrow evening on a Thursday night primetime matchup, which I think every book spans immediately get scared when we save matchup or primetime matchups because they don't usually go too well.
- 0:34[SPEAKER_02]: So we are also going to preview that game.
- 0:35[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to give our score prediction, some bold predictions as well.
- 0:39[SPEAKER_02]: So we got some important injury updates that we just heard from Todd Bowlson just a little bit ago.
- 0:45[SPEAKER_02]: So it's a jam packed episode with us.
- 0:47[SPEAKER_02]: But with me on the show is Caleb Skinner, our veteran writer at BugsGameade.com.
- 0:52[SPEAKER_02]: And all the way to the other side is River Wells, our lead editor, gentlemen.
- 0:56[SPEAKER_02]: Good afternoon.
- 0:57[SPEAKER_02]: To you, it's not a pretty day in the bay.
- 0:59[SPEAKER_02]: We got a lot of rain coming down over here.
- 1:02[SPEAKER_02]: But Caleb, you got the beanie on up there in Boston seems like it's starting to get a little chilly.
- 1:07[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, definitely.
- 1:10[SPEAKER_00]: Showing off a fear and it's getting cooler.
- 1:13[SPEAKER_00]: in highs in the low 60s, high 50s now, it's going downhill from here.
- 1:21[SPEAKER_00]: Much right the tape of a buck in your season, so.
- 1:24[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, not not too great.
- 1:25[SPEAKER_02]: I've got the race.
- 1:26[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, and they played tonight at the end.
- 1:28[SPEAKER_02]: They do.
- 1:28[SPEAKER_02]: They have a chance to seal that series off.
- 1:30[SPEAKER_02]: They've been playing fantastic baseball and
- 1:34[SPEAKER_02]: the trap has been bumping in everything but now they get to go on the road and try to finish this series off so good luck to the race and best of luck.
- 1:43[SPEAKER_02]: I mean they just have looked excellent and they've been whipping up on the Yankees.
- 1:49[SPEAKER_02]: I've just a couple blocks away from there so I can hear the roars and certainly whenever they won, it was a five to one, the other night it was a good time down here in St. Petersburg.
- 1:59[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah.
- 2:01[SPEAKER_02]: River, you were just at practice.
- 2:03[SPEAKER_02]: Where were the vibes?
- 2:04[SPEAKER_02]: We said, we had a vibe check yesterday.
- 2:06[SPEAKER_02]: What were the, you weren't in the locker room, but what were the vibes inside of the IPS and so it was raining again?
- 2:14[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, it was a pretty straightforward team was stretching and then did a little bit of Praxon.
- 2:20[SPEAKER_01]: I got a little bit better of an idea today because yesterday was a walkthrough, so it's hard to tell who was doing what, but you know, teams were actually practicing indoors.
- 2:28[SPEAKER_01]: Today, as they're definitely immediately didn't see Benjamin Morrison or Sorosia, yeah, as Praxon.
- 2:33[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and then, you know, we taught our top bulls afterward, and the rhetoric is pretty clear.
- 2:38[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
- 2:38[SPEAKER_01]: What else you're supposed to say at this point, right?
- 2:40[SPEAKER_01]: You need to get a win.
- 2:42[SPEAKER_01]: and then Tom mentioned that and that's the goal, you know, he's talking a little bit about how he used to, you know, I believe he used to coach in Dallas, so he has a bit of a relationship with Jerry Jones, and you know, I'm just there, but he's like, you know, on Thursday, we got to win.
- 2:57[SPEAKER_01]: So that's what they're going for.
- 2:58[SPEAKER_01]: That's what the, the rhetoric is and hard to imagine to be handing us at this point.
- 3:03[SPEAKER_01]: So they have desperate to get over there in Dallas, the backup quarterback,
- 3:08[SPEAKER_01]: and try and pull one out here on Thursday night football prime time.
- 3:13[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we'll give our score predictions at the end of the show.
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- 3:33[SPEAKER_02]: We'll also have an instant reaction right after the bucks.
- 3:36[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, cowboys.
- 3:37[SPEAKER_02]: So let's go ahead and get started.
- 3:38[SPEAKER_02]: This is the big discussion.
- 3:40[SPEAKER_02]: This kind of came out.
- 3:41[SPEAKER_02]: at a good time to, you know, a conversation on, and this was from ESPN today.
- 3:47[SPEAKER_02]: They just put out a piece talking about what the ownership is kind of feeling going into this week as we've alluded to.
- 3:58[SPEAKER_02]: This would be five strayed losses for Todd Bowls, and it looked really rough into the season last year too.
- 4:07[SPEAKER_02]: But we did hear from,
- 4:09[SPEAKER_02]: Jeremy Fowler who had a few things to say.
- 4:12[SPEAKER_02]: He said it's a little too early.
- 4:15[SPEAKER_02]: He believes for a hot seat talk, just specifically talking about this season regarding Todd Bowles, but he said Tampa Bay's current funk isn't ideal for Todd Bowles in year 5, a lengthy 10 year by today's climate.
- 4:29[SPEAKER_02]: He says that all ownership has a very good relationship with balls, which we've all told you guys on here.
- 4:36[SPEAKER_02]: And Fowler sense is that the bucks will give him time.
- 4:41[SPEAKER_02]: And this is in quote, the chatter will only intensify the bucks can't reverse the recent skids.
- 4:46[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't think there's anything really telling in this report.
- 4:51[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think so either.
- 4:53[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, kind of I'm just standing that, you know, we knew too that, um,
- 5:00[SPEAKER_01]: that the ownership likes tables, they sign into a three-year extension, so that there's that as well.
- 5:07[SPEAKER_01]: And they definitely want to give them opportunity to turn this around because they pay them a lot of money, right?
- 5:11[SPEAKER_01]: And they paid a mighty close-up football team and they trusted him in Jason Lighten, they send them in tandem.
- 5:16[SPEAKER_01]: And they want to see some results from that.
- 5:18[SPEAKER_01]: And it's not going well right now.
- 5:19[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't going well.
- 5:20[SPEAKER_01]: The back half a last year either.
- 5:22[SPEAKER_01]: And what Graziano and Valor mentioned was,
- 5:26[SPEAKER_01]: Clearly, um, if the losses stack up, it's going to be harder and harder and harder and harder and harder and harder to ignore.
- 5:33[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see how it ends up going.
- 5:35[SPEAKER_01]: The glitches have never fired a head coach mid season.
- 5:39[SPEAKER_01]: We've talked about this kind of ad nausea in that.
- 5:41[SPEAKER_01]: There's always a first time for everything, right?
- 5:43[SPEAKER_01]: And the cowboys will be on prime time.
- 5:46[SPEAKER_01]: The bucks and the cowboys will be on prime time.
- 5:48[SPEAKER_01]: If there is a significant loss there, it's hard to imagine that that wouldn't have a ripple effect given that it's on national television in front of the entire country.
- 5:57[SPEAKER_01]: everyone can kind of see what's going on.
- 5:59[SPEAKER_01]: The bugs have kept games close before.
- 6:02[SPEAKER_01]: People have been pretty bad offences.
- 6:04[SPEAKER_01]: This is not a bad offense.
- 6:06[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see how the fucking years can try and contain guys like CDLAM and George Pickins and deck first guy who I think is one of the best quarterbacks in national football league.
- 6:16[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be a tough ask if it looks pretty ugly.
- 6:19[SPEAKER_01]: Then it'll be interesting to see what happens with that sort of
- 6:25[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's no shock that the Glaciers and Bulls have a good relationship, given everything that River just mentioned, but knowing that you're too in a leapt in your past routine, I believe, is not a good look.
- 6:37[SPEAKER_00]: And you look at schedule ahead, I think it's much easier for you whatsoever.
- 6:42[SPEAKER_00]: So then talking about if they're able to break the skid, where are they gonna break the skid?
- 6:48[SPEAKER_00]: None of the teams that are writing front of them and then meeting future if we're gonna play.
- 6:53[SPEAKER_00]: appear to be a team that the buck and years can go out there and be on paper.
- 6:58[SPEAKER_00]: But it is the NFL any given Sunday, so on and so forth.
- 7:01[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't have much confidence in this team.
- 7:03[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think very many people do at this point.
- 7:06[SPEAKER_00]: So how long are you going to let it last and I understand that like if you fire a midseason, who are you going to promote into that position as an interim head coach in the meantime, until you get towards
- 7:15[SPEAKER_00]: the end of the season when the care so begins, but something's going to have to be done.
- 7:19[SPEAKER_00]: So I would imagine they probably write them out.
- 7:22[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think no matter how bad this team is that they're going to fire them at season just because you're not going to promote Zach Robinson up to that level.
- 7:30[SPEAKER_00]: And you don't really have anybody else on staff that can really handle that sort of complex.
- 7:35[SPEAKER_00]: There are a few options.
- 7:37[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you could probably go with George Edwards.
- 7:44[SPEAKER_00]: There's a couple of options, but I don't think that's necessarily an option that they put on the table for themselves.
- 7:50[SPEAKER_00]: I do think bulls the seat is probably beyond hot.
- 7:53[SPEAKER_00]: At this point, I feel like I've been written on the wall, as I've said, probably the past two shows when it comes to him and his future as a team of a book and you're like coach there needs to be a different direction, probably needs to be offensive-minded, go hires and great coordinators along the way.
- 8:07[SPEAKER_00]: But something's going to change and it's not going to happen in this season.
- 8:10[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry to tell you guys the injuries keep piling up.
- 8:13[SPEAKER_00]: You're facing a really tough team.
- 8:15[SPEAKER_00]: It's desperation mode at this point in time and when the team is playing desperate.
- 8:20[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes that'll work, but when you've got a head coach like Todd Bowles, the team's identity has kind of followed into that Todd Bowles coaching mindset.
- 8:27[SPEAKER_00]: How he goes about his day business, that desperation is not going to lead to success, right?
- 8:33[SPEAKER_00]: So it's a desperate team looking for a win and it's just not going to come together.
- 8:37[SPEAKER_00]: It's followed in his footsteps.
- 8:39[SPEAKER_00]: He's allowed this to happen, and I know Bruce Ariance has had his comments saying that, you know, this is just September.
- 8:45[SPEAKER_00]: It's just oh, and four.
- 8:46[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, we're in Docteville, Bruce, and this is your hire, and he's likely not going to be here.
- 8:50[SPEAKER_00]: So this is partially on YouTube, for him.
- 8:53[SPEAKER_00]: It's giving, spending everywhere, for handing the keys over to Bulls in the first place and kind of setting this organization back, probably, like I said before, another decade.
- 9:02[SPEAKER_00]: So,
- 9:03[SPEAKER_00]: I'm pretty pissed off about it.
- 9:04[SPEAKER_00]: I know a lot of other people are pissed off about it as well, but there's unfortunately nothing's going to happen with season.
- 9:10[SPEAKER_00]: It's just not how they roll and they don't really have a clear successor in terms of who will be in Rome.
- 9:14[SPEAKER_00]: So that's where we are.
- 9:16[SPEAKER_00]: Unfortunately, you're walking into this matchup and likely you're going to get absolutely smack on the third thing night.
- 9:23[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, here's your schedule after the Cowboys.
- 9:25[SPEAKER_02]: You've got the Pittsburgh Steelers that are coming into your house, but it's not really your house anymore as we've seen other fan bases take over Raymond James stadium that and this is the Pittsburgh Steelers.
- 9:35[SPEAKER_02]: They travel like no other team across the league.
- 9:37[SPEAKER_02]: It will be black and gold.
- 9:39[SPEAKER_02]: all about.
- 9:39[SPEAKER_02]: So that's not a home game for you.
- 9:41[SPEAKER_02]: So the Steelers come into town.
- 9:43[SPEAKER_02]: Then you've got the Carolina Panthers, which you're on the road there, where they've shown that Bryce Young is he's got it right now.
- 9:50[SPEAKER_02]: He's got it to offense.
- 9:51[SPEAKER_02]: He's clicking there.
- 9:52[SPEAKER_02]: They've got a wider ceiling that they can operate and get down the field with.
- 9:56[SPEAKER_02]: And so the Panthers won't be an easy matchup for you.
- 9:59[SPEAKER_02]: And then FC South and the Falcons are showing life.
- 10:01[SPEAKER_02]: They're showing more than life, too, that they can go out there.
- 10:04[SPEAKER_02]: play two and then you're on the road which we've all pointed out in this and when we are previewing this season you're at the Chicago Bears and if you're going to try to score some points it's going to be a lot like the Cowboys 2.
- 10:16[SPEAKER_02]: You got to be able to keep up on the scoreboard and that is another prime time matchup on Sunday night football on
- 10:24[SPEAKER_02]: November 8th then you then you finally get your by week so where where where are those I mean if you try to find a game here where do you find your first one is it is it is it is the stealers at
- 10:37[SPEAKER_02]: is it the Pittsburgh Steelers or is it?
- 10:39[SPEAKER_02]: It's tough, it's very tough to try to go find who you were going to go when these games.
- 10:46[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, as we talked about the relationship between Boles and the front office is very strong.
- 10:51[SPEAKER_02]: They like one another, they respect Boles, but at some point, you know, that's gonna be it.
- 10:57[SPEAKER_02]: That's gonna be all she wrote for him no matter what.
- 11:00[SPEAKER_02]: The twins had losses and you got way too many losses counting from this year and going all the way back to last year.
- 11:07[SPEAKER_01]: It was two and a time to close the season.
- 11:08[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 11:09[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
- 11:10[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 11:10[SPEAKER_02]: And so you're dealing with that and you're just
- 11:15[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, just certain things I notice like on the field and off the field and walk and off and pre-game warm-ups and stuff.
- 11:20[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's just kind of, it's very intriguing to me that Ashaan Robinson is your biggest leader on this team of feels like right now, and, you know, he's the one hyping up the guys getting them sending them message and then like Beat of Bay is about 20 feet off from that huddle.
- 11:37[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's just got a chance to find one field junior, so on and so forth, all on the outside of that huddle.
- 11:43[SPEAKER_00]: I should tell you about where these guys who do love taught boys where they stand because they're following right in his footsteps of not giving too shits about what is happening at him there.
- 11:52[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
- 11:53[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no one is telling one of them.
- 11:55[SPEAKER_02]: I'm out there.
- 11:57[SPEAKER_02]: stepped out of your entire training camp and they don't want to participate want a new contract and everything and then you could tell he was very not ready for football play from the first couple of weeks and that was telling right off the bat and then of course the whole baker situation and you know
- 12:19[SPEAKER_02]: that that has turned out to be a nightmare scenario for you, but that was also whenever we saw, you know, that was the thing though, you know, that's the risk this ownership group decided to do in Jason line everything to give those contracts to these guys and go on Baker and that's what you get.
- 12:33[SPEAKER_02]: That's what happens whenever you take that risk whereas you could have had with Baker just let him play out the season, prove it that he can be a top five quarterback like you're
- 12:44[SPEAKER_02]: guess what ain't the case, and I don't know if he will certainly was Zach Robinson what he's shown offensively guys, I mean it's been disastrous, disastrous offense of play, and I don't think there's been any improvements in the adjustments coming out of half, like they come out flat as hell, and there's very, it's very likely that could happen tomorrow, River tomorrow night against Dallas Cowboys on the road with a undrafted rookie quarterback.
- 13:08[SPEAKER_02]: That's another decision that they decided to go with this off season.
- 13:11[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we've talked about this a lot, but you have to look at the roster and what it looks like and you have to wonder if Jason Light's going to catch some flack as well.
- 13:19[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this offseason, especially given that like we mentioned, Recyn Baker may field to a big deal before the season.
- 13:27[SPEAKER_01]: Vita Vaya got an extension as well and not just say we'll give you a little bit of money to, you know, help, you know.
- 13:35[SPEAKER_01]: Show, tell you that, you know, you're worth it to us, but want to play it out and we'll talk after the season.
- 13:39[SPEAKER_01]: No, they gave him a full one year extension, right?
- 13:42[SPEAKER_01]: So there's that as well.
- 13:43[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of draft picks we haven't seen really hit out.
- 13:46[SPEAKER_01]: It's Clyde.
- 13:46[SPEAKER_01]: Cancey was a third-front draft pick in 2023 hasn't really done much of anything so far this season.
- 13:52[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, he's staying out of the c'mon.
- 13:54[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Graham Barton in 2024, right?
- 14:03[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, do you have a second the second the worst in past rush grade by the right in a contract in a contract year right part of that scheme for that's yabby and you know guys I didn't know and people will talk about his talent it is he can't say on the field so that's something to consider as well
- 14:32[SPEAKER_01]: as much as this team's coaching has failed it and it has, for sure, tie balls and that grab was in a both struggle, it's just not a very town football team and that is a Jason Light problem, that is not a tie balls problem.
- 14:44[SPEAKER_01]: So I think that's going to be one of the bigger
- 14:48[SPEAKER_01]: Talking points after top bulls is presumably fired at the end of season old beforehand will Jason light be allowed to hire this next high coach keep money.
- 14:57[SPEAKER_01]: He did not hire top bulls as a coach for their instead down and then top bulls took over from there.
- 15:03[SPEAKER_01]: So that's something to note.
- 15:06[SPEAKER_01]: But
- 15:07[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's, it's everything.
- 15:08[SPEAKER_01]: It's all the way down, right?
- 15:09[SPEAKER_01]: It's talent.
- 15:10[SPEAKER_01]: It's coaching.
- 15:11[SPEAKER_01]: It's, it's organizational stuff.
- 15:12[SPEAKER_01]: Um, that's why the book and years are own four and they could be own five tomorrow night.
- 15:18[SPEAKER_01]: It takes a lot to be this poor of a football team and it seems like everything's happening to make that sort of cocktail car.
- 15:26[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, there's just a week by a week, the same sort
- 15:33[SPEAKER_01]: The same sort of things happen, we're totally going here to talk about it, identify those problems and they continue to happen.
- 15:38[SPEAKER_02]: So, welcome my wife, River, and Tallahassee brother.
- 15:43[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I've been going for the last two and a half years.
- 15:46[SPEAKER_02]: It is brutal.
- 15:49[SPEAKER_01]: tomorrow but at their own five and you know they'll come back and they'll debrief it and they'll say some more things that we've heard and they got to get this going and you know we got to make sure we can coach this better and then the team's got to execute and the team doesn't really execute because they're not very talented in many respects and then we forgot to talk about it on we forgot to get on in that uh sorry that just came out of my
- 16:13[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Kate, I'm just three year 10 million dollar a year back at him, man, I go back at him and you know what to say the show where they're so far He gets used a lot, but how productive is he with that usage these are all things considering we look at light Ambles and Robinson and all of that all the way down so
- 16:31[SPEAKER_01]: Um, they're, yeah, and I should say, sorry, I don't want to talk to you long, but no, you're good.
- 16:36[SPEAKER_01]: You talent at players on this team, like Jacob Parrish looks good, um, you know, there's some bright spots.
- 16:41[SPEAKER_01]: There's a charge of the song, like a year, uh, but overall overall, Tristan worse, you know, the best past walking left tackle and football still is, by the way, um, had a bit of a rough week one, but firmly reestablished himself.
- 16:55[SPEAKER_01]: He was well back.
- 16:56[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 16:56[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 16:56[SPEAKER_01]: Um,
- 16:58[SPEAKER_01]: That's talented, but then you've got guys at Chris Godwin, guys.
- 17:02[SPEAKER_01]: It's on a three year $22 million a year contract, $66 million a total.
- 17:08[SPEAKER_01]: Now, that might not work out next year, because it's an option year, but that was a lot of money to throw at Chris Godwin, and he hasn't been used, very often.
- 17:17[SPEAKER_01]: And he's definitely lost a set that's centering with his age, and that's another contract that Jason light handed out to a veteran.
- 17:24[SPEAKER_01]: To prove that, you know, he's loyal and he wants these players back, but he's a thing was that a good contract at the time It's underwater right now No team would trade for Chris God wouldn't take that contract on right now.
- 17:34[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody.
- 17:36[SPEAKER_00]: So Those are all things to think about Another sticking point here, too, is that the book and yours have kind of built themselves into a heavy one I keep our guys around Type of team and they don't want to let their guys go and even if they're middleing or if they're not doing well
- 17:53[SPEAKER_00]: players on said team, that is no longer the case.
- 17:56[SPEAKER_00]: And so as you're going through this culture, you had this culture of retaining your own guys, the who'd him thing, but also on so forth, we need to go back to the business model.
- 18:08[SPEAKER_00]: Let's go back to this is, hey, we're here to get wins on the board and they don't care about that right now.
- 18:14[SPEAKER_00]: It's more about the type of guy that you're drafting, rather than the incangibles, the, the, the,
- 18:20[SPEAKER_00]: like the production, you know, athleticism talent, whatever you want to say into the play or you're not bringing in those types of play or you're bringing in good guys.
- 18:29[SPEAKER_00]: Um, let's get over with in don't with that.
- 18:32[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you look at the Eagles and all their success over the past four or five years.
- 18:36[SPEAKER_00]: They've always taken the guys who have had travel issues and look what that's what to because they're very talented players despite everything that that goes on, off the field or whatever it may be for them.
- 18:46[SPEAKER_00]: They've gone out there in one.
- 18:47[SPEAKER_00]: They've been in what two three super bowls.
- 18:49[SPEAKER_00]: They've won one.
- 18:50[SPEAKER_00]: So like you got to take these chances on guys.
- 18:53[SPEAKER_00]: You don't always have to be the team that's taking on these guys who are super great, super nice, super right involved in the community.
- 19:01[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not saying that they're not going to always not produce or so on.
- 19:05[SPEAKER_00]: So be.
- 19:06[SPEAKER_00]: But like you've got to change things up.
- 19:08[SPEAKER_00]: And what are you doing to do that?
- 19:09[SPEAKER_00]: You're not.
- 19:10[SPEAKER_00]: You try to do it this offseason
- 19:14[SPEAKER_00]: Um, guys at that nature just saw a trotter in the way he plays and things like that.
- 19:18[SPEAKER_00]: But um, it's not it's not coming to fruition and it's not going to happen overnight.
- 19:22[SPEAKER_00]: I think we can all understand that.
- 19:23[SPEAKER_00]: But this has been years and years and years in the making where you've refused to kind of, hey, maybe after the Brady years now that we're coming up on Levantes retirement, you know, we've got to be video with got to pay.
- 19:35[SPEAKER_00]: Chris Godwin, why, you know, you could have let him walk for 24 million to go to New England and you could have, you know, gotten a wide receiver that produces more for way less and now you happen.
- 19:44[SPEAKER_00]: So it's just bad decision making cross-supported, it's bad coaching, it's bad decision making, it's bad signing, it's bad contracts, it's bad drafting and it's just trickles all the way down right and so that's just where things are at.
- 19:57[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean it's not even my price to expect there.
- 19:59[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry.
- 20:00[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, good.
- 20:00[SPEAKER_01]: Even then I think light's been kind of willing to break that rule a lot even still.
- 20:07[SPEAKER_01]: I mean he drafted Devon White right who had numerous legal issues before getting to the NFL He you know, he signed Antonio Brown
- 20:18[SPEAKER_01]: I probably had Tom Bertie's request, but in Tony up round numerous legal issues before During and after his tenure in Tampa Bay.
- 20:27[SPEAKER_01]: So he does bring in guys like that, and that's fine, but you don't know.
- 20:31[SPEAKER_00]: It's fine, but you don't know.
- 20:32[SPEAKER_01]: It's fine.
- 20:33[SPEAKER_01]: But my point being like you can say that and but it doesn't really mean anything if again the players aren't really producing and you don't really follow that rule anyway, right?
- 20:41[SPEAKER_01]: And the thing about Jason Light that I've always found interesting is that every draft pick he signs makes every pick he makes makes a team.
- 20:50[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody, you know, definitely the team I should climb made a team now.
- 20:53[SPEAKER_01]: They're not there anymore, but I mean look at the fifth round this year.
- 20:56[SPEAKER_01]: He drafted de Monte Cape Heart at Defense Attackle and Billy Schrauth out of the fence of guard in the fifth round, they're both inactive on Game Day.
- 21:05[SPEAKER_01]: They're game day inactive.
- 21:06[SPEAKER_01]: They made a team, but they are game day inactive.
- 21:09[SPEAKER_00]: My question is then, are our resources putting towards the wrong thing?
- 21:13[SPEAKER_00]: Why aren't we doing more?
- 21:14[SPEAKER_00]: In terms of scouting other teams practice squad scouting who's out there on the free agent market You hardly ever see Jason like for this team make any moves during the season It comes to the waivers when it comes to adding somebody who's out there still Oh, you know you've got somebody that goes down you rarely see them go after big name guys are going after guys We've already been in the organization before understand how things work
- 21:36[SPEAKER_00]: Shumbry Bunting, Jason Pierre Paul, right, like why is it always that way instead of going out there and possibly changing somebody who could actually benefit your team and help your team towards it to, you know, get into closer battles, closer games and potentially win games.
- 21:51[SPEAKER_00]: You're not doing that, like you're just you're just so setting your ways that it's it's.
- 21:57[SPEAKER_00]: I did just know like you see these teams always involved like the San Francisco 49ers always picking up different people you see all these other different teams that are competitive and the league year in and you're out that are going out there making wholesale changes every once in a while, whether it's injuries, whether it's this that or the other like.
- 22:14[SPEAKER_00]: and you're still able to do more with less, even though they're bringing in guys that were off waivers or off the street or whatever it may be, they're still able to take something and do something with it.
- 22:23[SPEAKER_00]: Whereas the buck and ears just take them in stash them, and then eventually that person leaves because it's like, oh well, what am I doing here?
- 22:29[SPEAKER_00]: And then it's not helping the team whatsoever.
- 22:31[SPEAKER_00]: Your transactions are no limb-boy at that point.
- 22:34[SPEAKER_00]: So what the fuck?
- 22:37[SPEAKER_01]: I'll give you a one.
- 22:37[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to continue to let Logan not talk here.
- 22:41[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, I'm good.
- 22:42[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure that this is this is podcast and this is the moderator here, right.
- 22:46[SPEAKER_02]: I'll leave you guys and I get my take here and now it's a good discussion.
- 22:50[SPEAKER_01]: I'll leave it on this with light.
- 22:51[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of people talked about when Liam Cohen left for Jacksonville that the book had the foresight to fire Todd Bowles and promote Liam Cohen.
- 23:03[SPEAKER_01]: At the time, I still think would have been kind of not a good idea.
- 23:06[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, I had to talk to him on that.
- 23:09[SPEAKER_01]: And in recent press conference, you know, Cone was talking about Travis Hunter because he was asked about the value of Travis Hunter's pick because objectively the a draft value that was a bad pick to trade, you know, resources for a player like that.
- 23:22[SPEAKER_01]: There's no longer playing two ways now he's more of a defensive player and Cone wasn't the podium he said, I don't care about value.
- 23:29[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care about draft value, I care about winning football games.
- 23:32[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and that aggressive GM style that James Gladstone has in Jacksonville is very much the antithesis of what Jason Light does in Tampa Bay.
- 23:42[SPEAKER_01]: He does not make big trade.
- 23:44[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't like to give up draft picks in capital.
- 23:46[SPEAKER_01]: He drafts a lot of players every player.
- 23:48[SPEAKER_01]: He drafts typically makes the team, but then you have players like, you know, like, we mentioned like K-Harton Strouther or an active, players like Klein who, when the box of guard troubles last year, Klein had a hard time getting on the field, uh, use a set of
- 24:03[SPEAKER_01]: Or a six round pick and then Devon Colp as well either a six or seven round pick, you know, he made the team to didn't produce much his time there and then he got Covered by our short, who's a six round pick at LSU right and and all these players make the same power at the battle ones.
- 24:18[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't want to interrupt light just really values his draft fix
- 24:23[SPEAKER_01]: Extremely value straffix is not like the part where them for any reason to get sourced players It's only made one midsies and trade.
- 24:30[SPEAKER_01]: I believe if during his entire ten years hand-based GM All these draft picks make the team and then some of them don't really, you know Produce motion and that's that's a problem to be noted and then you know I think a lot of this will have to be evaluated after
- 24:46[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, top bowls gets fired, which is a likely thing at this point, obviously.
- 24:50[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, but then the players will have to ask me what Jason liked to continue as the general manager to hire a new coach to produce staff together and to continue, you know, driving talent.
- 24:59[SPEAKER_01]: When, you know, both haven't had a pro bowl or draft it since 2020, um, a lot of this, this, this is something to account for when you're going, and you're looking at Jason likes to tend your entire life.
- 25:11[SPEAKER_00]: and to your point river like you put in too much damn stock into value of players and instead of going out there and getting
- 25:19[SPEAKER_00]: The best right like you you've got to look past oh we're going to keep value here like you've got to pass that and Jason like has always continuously talked about value value we thought we we think we got tremendous value okay we understand that but like there's other aspects to this other than you know you're getting value at the guy where you're drafting him you know like there's probably a reason that this happened
- 25:41[SPEAKER_00]: or some guy slipped like ruin van to, you know, TBD, when it comes to that.
- 25:46[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, of course, but there are many of these instances, the value is not giving you the return that you're looking for.
- 25:53[SPEAKER_00]: So you've got to be able to, you know, move,
- 25:58[SPEAKER_00]: along that i'm trying to think of what i want to like what i want to say here but you got to be able to like move with with the things that are coming at you right like you can't always just draft based on value and that's what Jason like seems to do over and over and over again i know somebody in chat said the dev and boy thing yeah dev and boy was picked 27 the buck and he was traded that picked somebody else um when they could have had them and i forget who they ended up drafting but obviously dev and boy probably would have been a better pick at this point in time considering what his career has kind of turned out to be so um it's a
- 26:29[SPEAKER_00]: from everybody involved, and these are all decisions that are made by the collagers, and it trickles all the way down.
- 26:35[SPEAKER_01]: That was low in hall.
- 26:37[SPEAKER_02]: By the way, yeah, I think that one worked out too well for you there.
- 26:44[SPEAKER_02]: I want to go to some comments here in just a second, but I want to give the latest odds right now where Todd Bowles sits as being the first head coach fired in the NFL.
- 26:55[SPEAKER_02]: Todd Bowles at the very top at minus one, 20 there from a bet online.
- 27:00[SPEAKER_02]: Up next is Matt LaFore.
- 27:05[SPEAKER_02]: Up next, Jim Harbaugh with a Charter's plus 650 to Miko Ryan's plus 800, and then on and on, it goes Dan Quinn, also in that rain, a plus 900 there.
- 27:17[SPEAKER_02]: Todd Bulls sent at the very, very top, but as we've said before, you know, the glaciers and, and hand, they have that, that's strong laced, and there's a lot of respect there to decided to run this back, but you can also point to what the discussion, you know, these two were just talking about what Jason liked, and that is only going to
- 27:34[SPEAKER_02]: continue as this season goes on because you'll look at the head coach and other issues on the field as Zach Robinson things but also to the decision to bring this staff back and have Jason Light as he going to be.
- 27:49[SPEAKER_02]: Is he going to be the one making those decisions?
- 27:51[SPEAKER_02]: We'll see if this likelihood happens with polls.
- 27:55[SPEAKER_02]: being let go and tample.
- 27:57[SPEAKER_02]: Let's get through some comments here.
- 27:58[SPEAKER_02]: We appreciate everybody hanging out with us this afternoon Marcel say no Todd and no Zach turn 0 and 17 season or maybe glazers keep bowls because they like him want to be too shocking.
- 28:10[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, they they do like them some bowls.
- 28:12[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think you could keep him.
- 28:13[SPEAKER_02]: If you like that, you'd be in search of it.
- 28:16[SPEAKER_00]: I think there's a very realistic chance that you could go and see this year with this team.
- 28:20[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, though, and say, yeah.
- 28:21[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely horrible.
- 28:22[SPEAKER_02]: So it is not a great, great team.
- 28:26[SPEAKER_02]: And then you go over there and see the Carolina Panthers and win a game like that.
- 28:29[SPEAKER_02]: And it was a night, like it was a solid win from Bryce Young.
- 28:34[SPEAKER_02]: and Dave Canales, and then you see that the falcons aren't going to be as dog-duke as you thought going into the season.
- 28:41[SPEAKER_02]: That hurts your soul a little bit.
- 28:43[SPEAKER_02]: Saints, not too great, but still nonetheless always a battle.
- 28:47[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to get on with this.
- 28:49[SPEAKER_00]: It's fine.
- 28:50[SPEAKER_02]: uh... uh... marcell say maybe empty seats might send a message towards owners will i hate to say marcell like i was just saying earlier the steel or the seats and the seats are empty yeah and the book of your seats will be empty but visiting fans will eat up ramad james all day long that's a great work for the kids you're soccer team either so mm-hmm
- 29:11[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the thing is is it's going to get cold like you're up there in Boston right now a great trip to get down here in 70 degree weather for football game on the weekend down in Tampa Bay.
- 29:20[SPEAKER_02]: I mean Pittsburgh fans will be eating that up and whoever else is visiting from upwards this season a little take over Raymond James.
- 29:30[SPEAKER_02]: We know that for sure.
- 29:31[SPEAKER_02]: Talking bug scene for the first time in years, I predict the bugs to lose by more than 20 points this next game.
- 29:37[SPEAKER_02]: That's how terrible I think this coaching staff is and we can't overcome this anymore.
- 29:44[SPEAKER_02]: Be interested to see what these score predictions look like at the end of the episode, but I don't think a lot of people feel too confident about this game going into it.
- 29:51[SPEAKER_02]: No matter if the defense seems to be finding a groove at the moment, it might just be too much real quick from Dallas's offense.
- 30:00[SPEAKER_02]: Yolo saying, Jason Light should leave as well.
- 30:04[SPEAKER_02]: And that was the discussion we were all having there on what would happen with Jason, your general manager.
- 30:11[SPEAKER_02]: What he's saying was he gonna be the one that's gonna be operating this ship moving forward or is he also gonna be told to leave and it's a full reset at one buck, the entry, and treating to see.
- 30:25[SPEAKER_02]: And you gotta think to it a new coach comes in,
- 30:30[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, you know what that...
- 30:31[SPEAKER_02]: Well, we saw a lamb colon, you know, he did not want to go to the Jacksonville Jaguars.
- 30:35[SPEAKER_02]: He wanted to see a change there at the General Manager position.
- 30:38[SPEAKER_02]: They went ahead and said, OK, we're willing to do that.
- 30:41[SPEAKER_02]: And that has worked out pretty damn well.
- 30:43[SPEAKER_02]: They had 13 wins last season.
- 30:45[SPEAKER_02]: It seemed like they're on a good stride right now and do balls.
- 30:48[SPEAKER_02]: So that is something we'll be monitoring if they do move on from bowls.
- 30:53[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, if a new General Manager comes in here.
- 30:55[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, Steven says Las Vegas Raiders,
- 31:01[SPEAKER_02]: They would probably, you're not getting a fourth for Chris going, I'm sorry.
- 31:06[SPEAKER_01]: Especially because there's an option on his contract.
- 31:08[SPEAKER_01]: So he,
- 31:09[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, I will probably go as far to say he will be every Asian next season.
- 31:15[SPEAKER_01]: They could pick up his option at $22 million for next year.
- 31:18[SPEAKER_01]: They will not do that.
- 31:20[SPEAKER_01]: That doesn't mean that Chris Goblin won't come back.
- 31:22[SPEAKER_01]: He could come back for a lot less money.
- 31:24[SPEAKER_01]: But I do think that at the bucks lose a lot of football games and top bulls is fired and potentially the front office goes as well.
- 31:33[SPEAKER_01]: This is a rebuild and I know people are very scared to hear that word in some respects.
- 31:38[SPEAKER_01]: Part of that would be probably guys like Chris Godwin older veterans potentially even someone like if you'd have Would be on the way out and probably wouldn't come back at that point so we'll see what happens Chris Godwin could return to him in next year in a lower deal But they go to have to be a lower deal at this point.
- 31:56[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he's gonna get his option picked up and it's fun
- 32:00[SPEAKER_00]: There's been plenty of talk.
- 32:01[SPEAKER_00]: There's a bunch of teams out there that need whiter spurs.
- 32:03[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to hand the city chiefs.
- 32:04[SPEAKER_00]: You look at going with Patriots, even Buffalo bills with DJ Moore doing with an injury who could potentially come in there and be like, just saying, let me, let me see what you guys are looking at, but you're not getting anything.
- 32:17[SPEAKER_00]: and those middle rounds you're looking at something and in the later rounds, but I ultimately don't think he would be traded at this point given his contract, but yeah, I agree with Rivers or with everything that's going on, what we anticipate to happen this offseason, a lot of things will be different, that includes the roster.
- 32:37[SPEAKER_02]: says talking bucks.
- 32:38[SPEAKER_02]: I'd give light a pass until we can evaluate our roster under the next coaching staff.
- 32:44[SPEAKER_02]: We see a lot of players who already perform well underperforming so badly.
- 32:50[SPEAKER_01]: And that's fair, but I think it would be also fair to look at which players, you know, we're talking about in that instance, right?
- 32:56[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Antoine Winfield Jr. was given a massive contract by Jason Light, the highest paid DB in NFL history at time, and he has not played even half as well.
- 33:06[SPEAKER_01]: Was that all for a season since 2023?
- 33:08[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, injuries have affected that perhaps he's far away from the ball.
- 33:13[SPEAKER_01]: That's all been talked about, but, you know, at this point, it was a simple size.
- 33:18[SPEAKER_01]: going forward.
- 33:19[SPEAKER_01]: So that's something to know as well.
- 33:21[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I mean, the idea of the hobby has been like a seven and a half sack guy, you know, twice, but I think he's generally underperformed.
- 33:30[SPEAKER_01]: You've got Alexander Looney and there who you just signed to has been underperforming.
- 33:35[SPEAKER_01]: Elijah Cancie underperforming right now.
- 33:38[SPEAKER_01]: some guys in the secondary time of calm looks decent jica paris looks pretty good tacky smith looks solid um interior line Barton mock and breadis and breadis and was also extended a few seasons ago that's been a lot of trouble for Tampa Bay or these first three weeks as well so that's a lot of players that are starting there and of course Benjamin Moore some was drafting the second round and he once again is a soft tissue injury with his quad and he once
- 34:04[SPEAKER_01]: So I think it's fair to be critical that there are some some players in the same.
- 34:10[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's some who who have shown some promise and young players, but I think a lot of this roster will need to be reevaluating a big way going forward next season because I don't know how much I've there's a wealth of talent in Tampa Bay right now.
- 34:30[SPEAKER_02]: y'all to see the Eagles trade That just happened right now.
- 34:34[SPEAKER_02]: No, I don't know Trains Cam Jorgans out a fill really headed to the Baltimore Ravens
- 34:43[SPEAKER_02]: Yep, the Eagles have an a rough sten right now with the injuries and offensive line was Lane Johnson and I don't see an yesterday that he's retiring from the NFL I'm gonna focus on some mental health So yeah the Eagles Third going through a Not so fun experience, too.
- 35:01[SPEAKER_00]: Don't let the Eagles win a tank of Don guys we got to get this going Come on now.
- 35:07[SPEAKER_02]: It's a battle for the tank of Don at this moment, but you know, we're not gonna tank
- 35:12[SPEAKER_02]: We're not gonna tank price fix.
- 35:14[SPEAKER_02]: We're not gonna take the price fix right here.
- 35:17[SPEAKER_02]: You guys, we are gonna make our selections between the bucks and the cowboys as a new user.
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- 35:30[SPEAKER_02]: But we are gonna make our picks.
- 35:32[SPEAKER_02]: And let's go back press caught first.
- 35:34[SPEAKER_02]: I don't wait because we do have to find another team player on here and let's predict what we think will happen here.
- 35:40[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you honestly, man.
- 35:42[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
- 35:44[SPEAKER_02]: That too.
- 35:45[SPEAKER_02]: 49 and a half.
- 35:48[SPEAKER_02]: You like that?
- 35:48[SPEAKER_02]: Trim down.
- 35:50[SPEAKER_02]: I kind of do.
- 35:52[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that doesn't seem like a bad idea.
- 35:54[SPEAKER_02]: Three honest with you.
- 35:55[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's thrown to put this in perspective.
- 35:57[SPEAKER_01]: He's thrown more than that all three of his last their games.
- 36:01[SPEAKER_01]: He had 335 against the Texans.
- 36:04[SPEAKER_01]: He had 276 against the Ravens.
- 36:06[SPEAKER_01]: He had 279 against the Commanders.
- 36:08[SPEAKER_01]: He completed over 70% of his passes on two of those games.
- 36:12[SPEAKER_01]: So Dach Press got some really good football.
- 36:14[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's clicked really good.
- 36:16[SPEAKER_01]: So I think like a top five quarterback.
- 36:19[SPEAKER_01]: I think that would be the answer there.
- 36:22[SPEAKER_02]: Where is Jalen Daniel's Rush Yards?
- 36:25[SPEAKER_02]: Cause it's not good.
- 36:26[SPEAKER_01]: Five on the ground.
- 36:29[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they're not Dallas's defense is not good against the quarterback rush.
- 36:33[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're really bad against the run.
- 36:35[SPEAKER_00]: I believe so that's probably a good.
- 36:40[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, 30 first things to run actually giving up 150.3 rushing yards per game.
- 36:45[SPEAKER_00]: And we just rush for one for the win against Green Bay.
- 36:49[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so let's slot that in there.
- 36:51[SPEAKER_02]: Let's see 43 and a half man isn't this just sad to see it.
- 36:55[SPEAKER_02]: See if you're a buck's fan.
- 36:56[SPEAKER_02]: Your wad receive a one projected at 34 and a half receiving yards.
- 37:01[SPEAKER_02]: Don't even touch them.
- 37:03[SPEAKER_00]: You got to go feedy with it just look at this.
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- 37:09[SPEAKER_02]: If you're ever going to be in stocks don't touch any of this.
- 37:12[SPEAKER_00]: We should only pick one buck in your player or time we do this considering how volatile and bad it is.
- 37:23[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we know because we have to, you know, like we
- 37:28[SPEAKER_00]: We have no choice.
- 37:32[SPEAKER_00]: These apps.
- 37:34[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 37:36[SPEAKER_02]: Well, we could do buckier Irving.
- 37:37[SPEAKER_02]: 44 and how does that put us that?
- 37:39[SPEAKER_02]: That's not too terrible.
- 37:41[SPEAKER_02]: Buckier Irving 44 and a half.
- 37:43[SPEAKER_02]: He has not been below that at all this year.
- 37:46[SPEAKER_02]: That's true.
- 37:48[SPEAKER_01]: He has not.
- 37:49[SPEAKER_02]: Could ride with that or 51 and a half.
- 37:51[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it depends.
- 37:52[SPEAKER_02]: I don't really do a whole tie.
- 37:55[SPEAKER_02]: I'd rather just shave it down a little bit more.
- 37:58[SPEAKER_02]: get down there.
- 37:59[SPEAKER_02]: It's just tough like you said Caleb to pick on a on a bucks offensive player right now.
- 38:03[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's it's risky business.
- 38:06[SPEAKER_02]: You're doing.
- 38:07[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, those are going to be our picture right there.
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- 38:28[SPEAKER_02]: Of course, here in Florida and in California.
- 38:31[SPEAKER_02]: It's keep on moving on with the show here.
- 38:33[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to get to a couple more comments too.
- 38:35[SPEAKER_02]: But let's get into some injury updates, River.
- 38:39[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not earlier.
- 38:39[SPEAKER_02]: You were there on hand.
- 38:41[SPEAKER_02]: And we did have some things that we were watching out for from Todd Bowles to see who was going to be available.
- 38:48[SPEAKER_02]: And one of the biggest ones,
- 38:50[SPEAKER_02]: Was, of course, yeah, Rubin' Bane, he is going to play, which is good news we'll discuss that, but there was another name that Bucks fans certainly want to have available if the Bucks decide to use them in a game, and a pivotal point, which they didn't like to do last week.
- 39:04[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so the only four players are ruled out.
- 39:06[SPEAKER_01]: We've got, of course, the two that we expected, Baker may field and and fun when field junior, neither are on IR, so they're always going to be listening to the injury report as out.
- 39:17[SPEAKER_01]: And then we've got Benjamin Morrison and Sylvain Dennis, both will be out.
- 39:23[SPEAKER_01]: Benjamin Morrison had a quad soft tissue injury that popped up on the second day of practice last week.
- 39:29[SPEAKER_01]: Seems like he is still recovering from that.
- 39:31[SPEAKER_01]: Which makes sense to short way he's right there.
- 39:34[SPEAKER_01]: Sebastian Dennis had been an ankle injury.
- 39:37[SPEAKER_01]: He was walking through during special teams drills on Monday, but not healthy enough to play.
- 39:47[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, yes, on Tuesday.
- 39:49[SPEAKER_01]: Not healthy enough to play fully in that case, so they'll be out.
- 39:55[SPEAKER_01]: Chase McLean.
- 39:57[SPEAKER_01]: Kicker, Tom Bull said, he's fine.
- 40:00[SPEAKER_01]: He's all right.
- 40:01[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so he will kick.
- 40:03[SPEAKER_00]: Not only is Joe, baby.
- 40:04[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
- 40:05[SPEAKER_01]: He's not on the injury before.
- 40:07[SPEAKER_01]: Or he's he is he is fine.
- 40:10[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so we'll see the injury for 10 that looks like once it comes out, but we were told he's totally okay.
- 40:16[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, we actually asked him if there was any problem with a kicker that you had.
- 40:21[SPEAKER_01]: How fast would you try and rectify that and get a guy in there and Todd said if we had a kicker that was injured We try and get a guy in probably that day or the next day.
- 40:30[SPEAKER_01]: So the fact that they didn't do that Makes them of confident that before and can kick he is to team based leading score
- 40:38[SPEAKER_01]: this year is scored 36 of their 76 points, so that is definitely, and it's also hit 100% of his field goals and extra points, honestly, a bid for all pro from chasing well.
- 40:54[SPEAKER_00]: In quick note on Chase dude, he's only 7 points away from surpassing Mike all start.
- 40:59[SPEAKER_00]: to be in the top five of the all-powering list.
- 41:02[SPEAKER_01]: Which is impressive, pretty impressive.
- 41:04[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so he should be good.
- 41:05[SPEAKER_02]: And then, of course, we're trying to get his contract extension, sorry.
- 41:09[SPEAKER_02]: And it is not a contract extension, but everybody else did.
- 41:12[SPEAKER_00]: Best play on the team, brother.
- 41:14[SPEAKER_02]: Pop score, everything like that.
- 41:16[SPEAKER_02]: But ain't gonna get you a contract extension at one buck.
- 41:19[SPEAKER_02]: That's just top.
- 41:20[SPEAKER_02]: That's right, that's right.
- 41:22[SPEAKER_01]: The return of Ruben Bane is on Thursday.
- 41:25[SPEAKER_01]: It's full ago.
- 41:27[SPEAKER_01]: he will be in there.
- 41:28[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously he was not particularly productive in his first two games.
- 41:33[SPEAKER_01]: I think part of that is top bulls of scheme.
- 41:36[SPEAKER_01]: I think part of that is definitely on him and a lack of talents and rust there.
- 41:42[SPEAKER_01]: But we know that he is talented from his time college.
- 41:45[SPEAKER_01]: and we know that he has a high motor and that we saw some things from him in training camp that we'd like to see again.
- 41:51[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see if he's able to do that, but he will return play alongside the idea of a in that rotation.
- 41:59[SPEAKER_01]: I think the biggest thing with that that I'm interested in is what does David Walker do?
- 42:02[SPEAKER_01]: David Walker currently has the highest pressure rate of any outside linebacker on this hit mid-buck in your scene, despite getting the fourth most reps at
- 42:14[SPEAKER_00]: The game shows like Todd said he's deserving more snaps.
- 42:17[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, but he's going to give him like five more and literally when the snap counts came out, it was five more.
- 42:21[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, this is the shit, this is it.
- 42:24[SPEAKER_01]: He also, um, I thought he had a really nice pressure on Jordan love to get him off the spot.
- 42:29[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was on a second or third down that constant inflation.
- 42:31[SPEAKER_02]: He's been playing pretty well.
- 42:32[SPEAKER_01]: So will he get even more reps?
- 42:35[SPEAKER_01]: this week on Thursday, who's to say, we'll five more, five more, maybe five more.
- 42:41[SPEAKER_02]: That's a lot from Tampa Bay.
- 42:44[SPEAKER_02]: That's what it looks like.
- 42:46[SPEAKER_02]: That is a lot.
- 42:47[SPEAKER_02]: That is a lot.
- 42:48[SPEAKER_02]: That's a lot.
- 42:49[SPEAKER_02]: I want to go back to, that is not Ruben Bay.
- 42:53[SPEAKER_02]: That is Ruben Bay right there.
- 42:56[SPEAKER_02]: Ruben Bay is going to want to be watching closely when we get into Jerry's world tomorrow is just
- 43:02[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if they're being just extra careful with him.
- 43:05[SPEAKER_02]: So, River, you and I were there in Jacksonville, and he was having a good day, you know, he was doing what he did and the buck straining camps and what he did up there at the against the New York Jets.
- 43:15[SPEAKER_02]: He was going to the back field, a lot of good one-on-one reps, and you saw where he did against the chiefs and the pre-season game I got, okay, where this guy is going to make an impact.
- 43:24[SPEAKER_02]: Hopefully...
- 43:26[SPEAKER_02]: soon or right away almost definitely on the opposite side but that just wasn't the case now I do wonder how much that injury that he suffered against the jaguars and that day one a joint training camp practice has hindered him because he's a dude that doesn't want to come off the field he was you know the big highlight story of camp whenever he's out there on the sled almost an hour after everybody's already gone inside and you know he has a mentality that
- 43:56[SPEAKER_02]: with that, it's kind of hard to take a dude off the field whenever they have that mentality.
- 44:01[SPEAKER_02]: You mean you just look at Baker Mayfield, I mean he did that all throughout last year, but he also felt like
- 44:06[SPEAKER_02]: Teddy Bridgewater couldn't do anything offensively, so he didn't want to take himself off the field.
- 44:10[SPEAKER_02]: That's a whole different kind of story, a little bit of a, that's the same kind of mentality.
- 44:14[SPEAKER_02]: These guys get injured and they don't want to come off the field and don't want to be shown to national media that they are, you know, they can't go out there and play ball when whenever they're little dinged up and such.
- 44:25[SPEAKER_02]: And that could have been the thing going on with,
- 44:28[SPEAKER_02]: with ribbon-dane and so that's why I'm wondering what we might see tomorrow night it'd be great it'd be a sigh of relief I think for bucks fans that hey this is not another outside linebacker that has let us down and now it's very early let's make sure that's clear very very early and this is just a few not even a four games into a season but
- 44:51[SPEAKER_02]: because he hasn't played a whole ton, but I just wonder if that was kind of why they wanted to hold him back a good little bit.
- 44:59[SPEAKER_02]: He seems like he's fully ready to go.
- 45:00[SPEAKER_02]: I think he could have possibly played the last, you know, last week, but they wanted to be careful with him.
- 45:05[SPEAKER_02]: And this gives him a little bit more cushion time going into it.
- 45:07[SPEAKER_02]: There is a night game.
- 45:08[SPEAKER_02]: And, interestingly, how many reps he gets to and how that compares to David Walker as well.
- 45:14[SPEAKER_02]: Well, just without lining him out there in the damn near slot and then you be okay.
- 45:18[SPEAKER_02]: That might help you a little bit there.
- 45:20[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you want to have the top tier talent like this because he is very, very talented.
- 45:24[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we saw this at the collegiate level.
- 45:26[SPEAKER_02]: There's no way that just disappears.
- 45:28[SPEAKER_02]: Once you come to Tampa, unless there's some kind of poison or disease that happens to Jason Light when it reads draft outside linebackers.
- 45:36[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I can't be true.
- 45:38[SPEAKER_02]: We got to get miles geared in here, guys.
- 45:40[SPEAKER_02]: We got to get miles geared in here to do the true test of things and see if that was played.
- 45:45[SPEAKER_02]: Put bad luck on him.
- 45:46[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I guess.
- 45:47[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, he's not.
- 45:49[SPEAKER_02]: even plain, but I am keeping a close eye on three and how much he gets used tomorrow night because, yeah, I'd be like you were saying earlier, Caleb, nowhere to be seen.
- 46:02[SPEAKER_02]: nowhere to be seen.
- 46:04[SPEAKER_02]: It's all been 51 that we've been talking about right here.
- 46:07[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, those are some big injury updates.
- 46:08[SPEAKER_02]: Now let's get into this preview guys.
- 46:11[SPEAKER_02]: This is a prime time matchup on Amazon Prime.
- 46:16[SPEAKER_02]: This is the Dallas Cowboys who are two and two on the season.
- 46:21[SPEAKER_02]: As we've talked about heavily, this is a high-powered offense.
- 46:24[SPEAKER_02]: You know, this is
- 46:27[SPEAKER_02]: a quarterback, two-wide receivers, got a tie-in to, got an offensive line that can help protect a DAC presscott, but they are second in the NFL and scoring 30 and a half points per game, they're ranked 11th in a total offense, 347 and a half yards per game.
- 46:47[SPEAKER_02]: I'll open this up to you guys.
- 46:49[SPEAKER_02]: Howling the hell do the bucks pull off an upset because there's not really
- 46:54[SPEAKER_02]: you don't have to go dive deep to and to like how the hell does this happen where the bucks and Todd Bowles leave Jerry's world and get their first win of the season because there's a lot of doubt I think heading into this one.
- 47:06[SPEAKER_02]: What's going to have to happen?
- 47:09[SPEAKER_01]: They have to score points and there we go, that's a year ago, wrap it up, score predictions time.
- 47:15[SPEAKER_01]: There we go.
- 47:16[SPEAKER_01]: No, that sounds very John Madden like obviously, but in the bottom line is you're not going to win this one and a stop defense of battle.
- 47:23[SPEAKER_01]: And Tom Bowles has mentioned in his press conferences, these are close games we're in.
- 47:28[SPEAKER_01]: Technically, yes, that's true, but the books have never been in control of any of these close games they've played in.
- 47:35[SPEAKER_01]: And it's easy to hold in offense like the Packers of 17 points or the Vikings to technically 15, the Vikings had to kick a turn touchdown.
- 47:44[SPEAKER_01]: That factor is as well, it's 10 at least 16 points.
- 47:47[SPEAKER_01]: In that respect, but you will not hold this half way of seeing with that many points.
- 47:50[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to score a lot of points.
- 47:52[SPEAKER_01]: And so you got to kind of dig in and think, okay, we got to be able to hang, you know, go banned for banned with this team.
- 48:01[SPEAKER_01]: And make sure that we can score a while they score as well.
- 48:05[SPEAKER_01]: The offense hasn't been able to do that him Bay has not been able to do that.
- 48:08[SPEAKER_01]: They have not been able to score points and not been able to Converting not been able to get good success right.
- 48:12[SPEAKER_01]: They have not been able to get explosive plays.
- 48:14[SPEAKER_01]: It's been bad in jail and Daniels again I don't even played a lot better than I thought he would honestly against the packers in week and in week four I thought he had a pretty you know decent debut He's still an undrafted free agent rookie quarterback The offense has to be simplified the looks had to be simplified setting predictions and he's helped with
- 48:34[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you have to find a way to get the answer and, and against this team, you're gonna have no choice.
- 48:43[SPEAKER_01]: So this offense needs to find a way to exploit a Cowboys defense.
- 48:46[SPEAKER_01]: Look at the stats here, guys.
- 48:48[SPEAKER_01]: 28th and points for game, 30th and yards for game.
- 48:52[SPEAKER_01]: They are 31st and 3rd down conversion percentage.
- 48:55[SPEAKER_01]: They're 27th and red zone scoring percentage.
- 48:58[SPEAKER_01]: This is a bad defense.
- 49:00[SPEAKER_01]: And if you are unable to score points and get first downs and have a explosive play against this bad Cowboys defense, you are in trouble.
- 49:09[SPEAKER_01]: And I think a lot of people already think this seems in trouble, that's fair, based on what they've seen.
- 49:13[SPEAKER_01]: But this is going to be an ultimate task where there's no excuse.
- 49:17[SPEAKER_01]: There's not really an excuse.
- 49:19[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just boating off forever.
- 49:21[SPEAKER_00]: They've got to run the ball obviously to put a point Right up with defense not that great, but they enjoy port of juniors and saying like good He sure it's an element as well.
- 49:31[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's another element that has joined that that was defense.
- 49:34[SPEAKER_00]: So you're really rarely probably going to throw their way and I think
- 49:38[SPEAKER_00]: the other aspect of this on how you could potentially keep it close and potentially come away with a victory is if you win that turnover battle.
- 49:48[SPEAKER_00]: That has not happened for Tampa.
- 49:49[SPEAKER_00]: There are minus five in the turnover margin this year.
- 49:52[SPEAKER_00]: Whereas Dallas is really good at taking advantage of the opportunities when opposing teams make mistakes.
- 49:59[SPEAKER_00]: They go to attack and more times than not they are going to support a ball.
- 50:03[SPEAKER_00]: So you got to be able to win the turnover margin, keep that ball safe, do not turn it over.
- 50:08[SPEAKER_00]: Janna Ding was going to have to protect the ball better, specifically like that first throw, first interception going to have last week against Green Bay, but there's your two areas.
- 50:16[SPEAKER_00]: You've got to be able to exploit their defense, run the ball, run the ball, run the ball, until it doesn't work anymore.
- 50:22[SPEAKER_00]: And then you're going to have to find guys open and you're going to have to stay away from Joey Porter Jr because he will make dupe.
- 50:28[SPEAKER_00]: I know the Dallas Cowboys defense is probably without a couple of guys like Koby Duran and Who else in this practice at the Marby on overshown kind of missing tyrosmith?
- 50:38[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's questionable with them injuries Well could return yeah So we'll see how that is come tomorrow or come later today when we find find out those injury reports So we'll see but those are the two areas when that turn over margin and run the heck out of the ball and try to go You know
- 50:57[SPEAKER_00]: points for points, with the Dallas offense that employees see land, Dak, Prescott, George Pickkins and Javante Williams.
- 51:06[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, good luck, and that's not even accounting for a Kavante Turpin of a Ryan Florentoy as well.
- 51:12[SPEAKER_00]: Just all very lead the weapons that can kind of pick you apart at any single moment.
- 51:16[SPEAKER_00]: So it's going to be a long, long night.
- 51:19[SPEAKER_00]: I'd imagine for Tampa, but those are the two areas that if they have a chance that they have to take advantage.
- 51:25[SPEAKER_02]: Zach Robinson told me yesterday he felt like, you know, uh, Dylan Daniels for the most part will operate the offense fun and, you know, I asked him about, you know, did you see things start to slow down for him once a region to the second half and he said, then that's really see that, but he did feel like,
- 51:43[SPEAKER_02]: Things were moving a lot easier for him and some of his reads and to utilize in his legs when need be and that's something right here You can see this photo getting buck your everything going is going to be big and also to River you and I spoke with Sean Tucker Sean Tucker still alive everybody he is still on this roster 44 is there.
- 52:01[SPEAKER_02]: We talked to him
- 52:02[SPEAKER_02]: uh... he was excited to get back in out there and get more opportunities find the end zone and he says that one thing that he feels like he could help this offense and is explosiveness and you don't really have that as much with can he gain well and buck either there's not a certain gear that they can match with how tucker is and so if you really
- 52:21[SPEAKER_02]: And, intriguing to see if we see more at 44 out there, but the run game is going to have to get going.
- 52:27[SPEAKER_02]: And you can do that against the Cowboys defense, and I'd like to see where Dylan Daniels can utilize these legs a bit more, not just because of what we did with our price fix earlier.
- 52:36[SPEAKER_02]: But he is an elusive guy, and he's more athletic than Baker Mayfield, and he showed a little signs of that, of course, against the Packers, but look for that.
- 52:47[SPEAKER_02]: to me to be able to have a chance in this see what he can do because he can make things happen out out of nothing but also like you said kill he's got to take care of that ball no silly mistakes no trying to reach and have those interceptions and you know Jalen told us yesterday he felt like he learned quite a bit.
- 53:04[SPEAKER_02]: Looking back on the film he said there was a lot of good which he he did like But there was some bad and there's there's things to correct and that's the reason why you have that you have those opportunities So he said that Baker may feel it's been very hands on with them helping him out and has just been a phenomenal phenomenal mentor to him going through this process.
- 53:23[SPEAKER_02]: So he's got everybody there helping him now
- 53:27[SPEAKER_02]: Hey everybody, he's gonna look at Zach Robinson and be like, man, can we get anything going outside of an FN screen every other play?
- 53:34[SPEAKER_00]: I was just gonna say we have yet to poo poo Zach Robinson, but that might be like a conversation for a whole nother episode, but it's just absolutely freaking bonds did it.
- 53:46[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, got to get to get the ball to your stars, man, and Mecca is just kind of nowhere to be seen, and that was the thing earlier.
- 53:53[SPEAKER_02]: I believe there's a comment talking about, you know, you can't really judge Mecca and Godwin when you're looking at, you know, Zach Robinson and how this offense is being operated, you know, it's
- 54:05[SPEAKER_02]: There's not a lot of shots being taken.
- 54:07[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I know Jalen McMillan's out, but you still have Ted Hersman and he's showing you quite a bit.
- 54:12[SPEAKER_02]: It just kind of feels like, you know, just going sideways, east and west, you're not going north as much unless it's with K dotten at times.
- 54:23[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like you're saying or I think you're saying or earlier, I remember that, you know, the cowboys even if you can't do it against the cowboys defense and you can't operate efficiently offensively and I know you're working with the undrafted quarterback, a rookie quarterback, but still, if you can't get any kind of motion going and get downfield and put points up, then I think that kind of just shows you where you're headed for the rest of the season, even if you get Baker May filled back, you know what I'm saying?
- 54:47[SPEAKER_02]: Cause it was already looking ugly with Baker May filled ladies and gentlemen, it already wasn't looking pretty in on saying.
- 54:53[SPEAKER_02]: So, all right guys, let's do some bold predictions and we'll do our score predictions.
- 54:57[SPEAKER_02]: We want to hear from you too, and the chat thrown over here.
- 55:00[SPEAKER_02]: Let us know what your score is going to be and also give us a bold prediction because we do get some pretty entertaining ones in here weekly So please give us a good to be horrible now Yeah, though.
- 55:13[SPEAKER_02]: We've had some lot of I think it's Steven.
- 55:15[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
- 55:16[SPEAKER_02]: He better be in here to give us
- 55:18[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, somebody's wild, bold predictions, but um, who wants to go, who wants to go first?
- 55:23[SPEAKER_02]: Do you want to go first, Caleb?
- 55:25[SPEAKER_02]: Do you want to?
- 55:25[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we were talking about in the production meeting.
- 55:28[SPEAKER_02]: And it was start with bold, and then you can do score.
- 55:31[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 55:32[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I don't even know what's bold anymore.
- 55:35[SPEAKER_00]: With the team, it's tough.
- 55:37[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but I'm just going to go out and say,
- 55:46[SPEAKER_00]: What's the board predicted for this?
- 55:47[SPEAKER_00]: Let me, let me go ahead and say that Chase McLaughlin hits a 50 plus a yarder coming off of the game where he was not thrown out there to attempt a 65.
- 55:59[SPEAKER_00]: You know what, I'll go 55 plus.
- 56:00[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, that's what I say.
- 56:02[SPEAKER_00]: Get a little bit of 50.
- 56:03[SPEAKER_00]: I'll go 55 plus so they get a little bit more.
- 56:06[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
- 56:07[SPEAKER_00]: Better.
- 56:08[SPEAKER_00]: For my score prediction a lot of people aren't going to like this, but I forget who I was might have had to fucking box earlier or somebody like that in the chat saying it's the first time in years that they've taken the box to be by every 20 points right there with you.
- 56:23[SPEAKER_00]: Right there with you.
- 56:25[SPEAKER_00]: I sent my prediction over to River today.
- 56:27[SPEAKER_00]: We'll probably have that up either way today or tomorrow before the game for all of our stats predictions.
- 56:33[SPEAKER_00]: But
- 56:34[SPEAKER_00]: I have the Tampa Bay Buccaneers losing 41 to 17 on Thursday night football.
- 56:40[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't think there's much of a chance for them to put up much of a fight maybe they score all 17 of those and it's 17, you know, 20 something at the first in the first half, but then after that it's going to take off.
- 56:53[SPEAKER_00]: We know this team, this coaching staff does not make
- 56:57[SPEAKER_00]: very many changes at halftime when it comes to, um, you know, uh, what is it called?
- 57:02[SPEAKER_00]: What's sort of like for, um, adjust time.
- 57:05[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I would be looking for adjustments that they don't really do that, um, and kind of like, hey, let's just dig into what we know and who would talk about us.
- 57:14[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so I just don't foresee it being anywhere close.
- 57:18[SPEAKER_00]: I could be wrong, but I just think with this team, the direction they're on,
- 57:24[SPEAKER_00]: the mindset that they currently have and how bad the coaching is.
- 57:27[SPEAKER_00]: It's just lining up for it to be a very disastrous game all around for this team.
- 57:35[SPEAKER_00]: You want to go next forever?
- 57:37[SPEAKER_01]: Sure, um, this is going to be a shootout.
- 57:41[SPEAKER_01]: I think if the books actually score points, and now I don't think it's going to be a shootout score prediction wise, if the book of a chance, it has to be, and because of that, my bold prediction is that Ted first is going to lead the team in targets, um, because I think at some point, they're going to be down pretty big, and they're just going to have to just start.
- 58:07[SPEAKER_01]: Zach Robinson hasn't really tried to do very much, you know, preferred a lot of behind-alien scrimmage passes, screen concepts, a short intermediate game stuff that's trying to generate yak, but I think that with Jalen Daniels and his arm, we've seen it, it's impressive, I think it got to be down on a whole pretty badly, and I think they're just going to start around it.
- 58:29[SPEAKER_01]: so that's my bold prediction.
- 58:33[SPEAKER_01]: I think the bucks are going to lose 34 to 10 to this cow.
- 58:38[SPEAKER_01]: I think there's going to be much going offensively even against a bad defense in Dallas.
- 58:45[SPEAKER_01]: I think Joey Porter Jr. might take advantage of failing Daniels being a UDFA.
- 58:49[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe get a pick as well.
- 58:52[SPEAKER_01]: And I think this cow weighs offense is just going to be able to ever at once, largely.
- 58:57[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, um, we'll see.
- 59:00[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's tough.
- 59:02[SPEAKER_00]: That's over 20 point lane as well.
- 59:04[SPEAKER_00]: It is.
- 59:05[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 59:05[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 59:06[SPEAKER_00]: We're all out there.
- 59:09[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, officially.
- 59:11[SPEAKER_01]: So that has been more than that.
- 59:13[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we'll just spread what nine and a half.
- 59:15[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
- 59:16[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
- 59:17[SPEAKER_01]: The box did cover the spread by the way.
- 59:20[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, what a shocker, right?
- 59:22[SPEAKER_01]: Old game, spread streak last week.
- 59:25[SPEAKER_01]: The streak is over.
- 59:26[SPEAKER_01]: The box covered.
- 59:29[SPEAKER_01]: They have a point loss.
- 59:31[SPEAKER_01]: So that is fun there.
- 59:35[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 59:36[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, not good.
- 59:38[SPEAKER_02]: Not too great.
- 59:39[SPEAKER_02]: I am going to go for a fun one here for a bold prediction, at least for pro bucks, and I'm going to say out of nowhere, Rubin' Bane gets his first sack, first career sack, and that's a bold prediction.
- 1:00:02[SPEAKER_02]: uh... it's a lot of one and it would create for private only positive part of this game i feel like i don't think it's gonna be got awful but i mean prime i score prediction eludes to that surely but i've got the box losing this one thirty four two seventeen so seventeen points
- 1:00:24[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know who scores and those, but I do feel like it is going to be tough to keep up with this Cowboys offense and I am worried about that Caleb Eoni were there a couple of years ago, and we saw Cooper Rush beat the Buccaneers and eat up Todd Bowles' defense or just something about being in that stadium.
- 1:00:42[SPEAKER_02]: that's also with the game that's also with the game that's also with your mountain on team yeah yeah that's a big thing to really note on but yeah and when you feel junior not being in here and then you're gonna have to have these wider sea recorbs that you're going against and back press got just not
- 1:01:02[SPEAKER_02]: not fun.
- 1:01:02[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, this could, this score prediction could be even worse, but I'm keeping it there if the box show any type of fight or want to be, because they sure didn't a couple years ago.
- 1:01:13[SPEAKER_02]: And hopefully they were just a Jaden Blue.
- 1:01:16[SPEAKER_02]: They're running back at the time.
- 1:01:17[SPEAKER_00]: I like I can't remember is that what was it?
- 1:01:21[SPEAKER_00]: Like was Jaden Blue, they're running back during that game.
- 1:01:24[SPEAKER_00]: I can't remember it was either, but it was like a backup.
- 1:01:28[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't even the last
- 1:01:32[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's the Cooper that's the Cooper Rushlin Sanity run.
- 1:01:35[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, that was real fun.
- 1:01:40[SPEAKER_02]: It was not a great locker.
- 1:01:41[SPEAKER_02]: I think there was only three of us on the beat me.
- 1:01:44[SPEAKER_02]: You I think it was just Jenna Lane.
- 1:01:46[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that was it.
- 1:01:47[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, he had and that was it for the lot for the Todd Bowles interview.
- 1:01:52[SPEAKER_02]: Then whenever you go into a locker room on a way game and you know, remember you've done this before too But you go there and it's a loss and it's that type of loss.
- 1:02:02[SPEAKER_02]: It's just Nobody wants to say anything.
- 1:02:04[SPEAKER_02]: They just want to go home.
- 1:02:05[SPEAKER_02]: I don't blame them.
- 1:02:06[SPEAKER_02]: I've been to a few of those I've been to a few of those Yeah, I don't blame them One bit, but yeah, Cooper Rush went 26 of 35 and it touched down 292 yards passing against Todd bulls of defense
- 1:02:20[SPEAKER_02]: Hopefully that doesn't happen again, would you take that stat sheet from deck press got under 300, would you, would you, would you, would you, would you say that stat sheet?
- 1:02:33[SPEAKER_02]: I think that would be a good start, let's get start.
- 1:02:38[SPEAKER_01]: And then we'll see how it goes there.
- 1:02:41[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 1:02:43[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I guess all right guys.
- 1:02:44[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's a different for us here on our preview of the bucks at the Cowboys will be with you right after the game That's why I always suggest hitting that subscribe button down below and if you haven't yet We're trying to get to 25 likes we made have already hit that but if not hit the like button helps get out there to more bucks fans with definitely
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- 1:03:14[SPEAKER_02]: Y'all enjoyed the rest of y'all's week enjoy the game tomorrow night and enjoy the rays good luck to the rays tonight against the Yankees and we're out here Peace file against fire