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NBA DFS Process | DraftKings & FanDuel Picks, Plays & Slate Breakdown | Monday, 03/02/26 · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

• 0:05
  Speaker 1: Fall systems, go clear lift, what's going on?
• 0:37
  Speaker 2: Everybody? Happy Monday with a man Matt talking some hoops,
• 0:40
  Speaker 2: March hoops, NBA hoops, and in March madness. I definitely
• 0:44
  Speaker 2: like we were talking a little pre show some college hoops. Yeah,
• 0:46
  Speaker 2: when I think of March, I'm definitely thinking of college basketball.
• 0:49
  Speaker 2: Can't wait for some survivor stuff for the tournament. Always fun,
• 0:52
  Speaker 2: but NBA is still kicking four games tonight. I slate that.
• 0:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, if you've got up at seven am this morning,
• 0:59
  Speaker 2: look at this, and then you look at it now
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  Speaker 2: completely different, which yeah, I'm excited for. I saw a
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  Speaker 2: comment and discord not a great slate again, now it's
• 1:06
  Speaker 2: completely different. Two big spreads, two close spreads, and yeah,
• 1:10
  Speaker 2: in the big spreads, its kind of where you're gonna
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  Speaker 2: see the chalk. So definitely excited to talk through this
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  Speaker 2: one with you, Matt. I feel like it's been a
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  Speaker 2: couple of weeks. It feels like Mondays, of these three gamers,
• 1:18
  Speaker 2: we do shows for four games or more. So excited
• 1:21
  Speaker 2: to talk with you. How you doing today?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I'm good. We talked a little bit before.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like it's been been months since you've gotten
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  Speaker 3: on here with the three game slates and the All
• 1:29
  Speaker 3: Star break, whatever it might be. I'm glad we're back
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  Speaker 3: on here tonight. As you mentioned, this slate is wildly
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  Speaker 3: different from it than what it was just a few
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  Speaker 3: hours ago. A ton of value to look at in
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  Speaker 3: any one lineup. I was talking to Real about this
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  Speaker 3: the other night, like, in any one lineup, you're just
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  Speaker 3: not going to be able to play all the good plays.
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  Speaker 3: You never can on any slate. But tonight it's gonna
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  Speaker 3: seem like, man, I need to get this guy that
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  Speaker 3: guy in any one lineup, and it's just not going
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  Speaker 3: to be possible. So a lot of good plays tonight,
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  Speaker 3: and we'll have to do our best to shift through them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, broad slide overview. Actually I also had people first, Marquee,
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  Speaker 2: Philly fan, Jake Money, Deacon, great to see everybody all
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  Speaker 2: we asked, like bunt subscribe button helps us out a
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  Speaker 2: ton Yeah. The broad slide overview just sorting by ownership. Actually, no,
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  Speaker 2: let me start by price first. Filters on a show
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  Speaker 2: players with my projection greater than one. Get all those
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  Speaker 2: other ones out and then you can go to hide remove.
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  Speaker 1: There we go.
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  Speaker 2: That's a little saber tutorial if anyone wanted that. But
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  Speaker 2: what's going on? Ian not speedy, Ian Bob, Great to
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  Speaker 2: see you guys as well, But yeah, sorting, you mentioned
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  Speaker 2: a lot of value on this late and then when
• 2:41
  Speaker 2: you start by salary, there's two players above ten k
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  Speaker 2: and one of them's Giannis is coming back from an injury.
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  Speaker 2: Definitely will be limited and pretty much unplayable today, So
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  Speaker 2: Jokich is going to be very popular. You start by ownership,
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  Speaker 2: the most popular on the slates, definitely hard to get away.
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  Speaker 2: And then yeah, you see Kawhi Sengngoon like there's not
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  Speaker 2: it's Jokic. I think you're starting your lineups with that.
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  Speaker 2: I think you're playing multiple value pieces which you can
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  Speaker 2: get different down below. But yeah, my broad slate is
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  Speaker 2: you definitely get different down below where like the second
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  Speaker 2: highest spend or whatever after Jokic. I just I think
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  Speaker 2: this ownership is probably even light in MMM tournaments and
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  Speaker 2: definitely single entry, like we talk about a lot. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: what's your broad slate before we go game by game?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's basically the same as you. It's the value
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  Speaker 3: to your point on Jokich, he's gonna be like ninety
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  Speaker 3: plus percent in small field higher dollar stuff, just because
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  Speaker 3: kind of to the point you alluded to, like there
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  Speaker 3: are pivots in the value range, because there's so many
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  Speaker 3: of them, there are no pivots in the Jokic range.
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  Speaker 3: So that in turn is also what makes it really
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  Speaker 3: hard to get away from him, because it isn't like
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  Speaker 3: there's a couple good value plays and if they get there,
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  Speaker 3: you're gonna need Jokic. There are a bunch of good
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  Speaker 3: value plays, so it's likely at least some of them
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  Speaker 3: get there, and only one true spend up option, so
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  Speaker 3: there are certainly ways it doesn't work out. There are
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  Speaker 3: a couple a few good mid tier plays tonight that
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  Speaker 3: I think you could potentially load up on. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: in the end, at the end of the day, we
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  Speaker 3: are playing an ownership game. But this is one of
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  Speaker 3: those slates where like that eighty five ninety Jokic in
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  Speaker 3: single entry higher dollar stuff doesn't seem that far off
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  Speaker 3: to what the optimal is. Maybe a little bit highly
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  Speaker 3: like over owned, but he's just so much better than
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  Speaker 3: everyone on this slate and we have so much value.
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  Speaker 3: To your original point, really hard to get away.
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  Speaker 2: From absolutely, let me just check real quick. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we just got news. No John Collins. See if there
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  Speaker 2: is anything else that just came out. Noh, just no
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  Speaker 2: John Collins. So that's interesting. Again, we'll talk about that
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  Speaker 2: game the last of the slates and for anyone watching.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm changed owners that flagship MMME is like your
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  Speaker 2: big fifteen dollars, eighteen dollars whatever it might be for
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  Speaker 2: the night. And again I still think this is probably
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  Speaker 2: a little light on Jokich. You go up to high
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  Speaker 2: stakes single entry like Matt's talking, I mean eighty nine percent,
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  Speaker 2: and you do have this ability to change ownership based
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  Speaker 2: on fields with the Sabersim Ultimate Package. There are multiple
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  Speaker 2: different packages here. I'll pull it up real quick. Four games,
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  Speaker 2: got a little time, and then we will go game
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  Speaker 2: by game, but different levels for different packages. If you're
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  Speaker 2: only playing one hundred bucks a week or something like that,
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  Speaker 2: obviously I don't think you should spend two hundred ninety
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  Speaker 2: seven dollars a month. But chip a nation dot com
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  Speaker 2: Join the Nation, you can get in as low as
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  Speaker 2: nine dollars get you. Saber Sim allows you to build
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty teams all of the sports above,
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  Speaker 2: and then five days for only ten more dollars, you
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  Speaker 2: get four extra days, you get Discord a very big piece.
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  Speaker 2: You get saber SIM. Golf is going on right now,
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  Speaker 2: big event this week. The players I believe NASCAR, MMA,
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  Speaker 2: UFC three, twenty six, NHL as well, So I think
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  Speaker 2: that's the best deal. You know, you'll be with us
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  Speaker 2: for a while. Again, this is the different packages for
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  Speaker 2: sabers and one hundred fifty lineups with the core starter
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  Speaker 2: gets you sabersim's projections ownership. You can see I usually
• 6:00
  Speaker 2: take the average for shiping nation and slabor SIM allows
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  Speaker 2: you to build five hundred teams and contest flashbacks. See
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  Speaker 2: what the pros are doing like Rio, like Matt himself,
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  Speaker 2: can see their exact ownerships in contests and the ultimate
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  Speaker 2: like we're showing off two forty nine a month annually,
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  Speaker 2: three twenty one a month, five thousand lineups. You get
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  Speaker 2: custom sims, and those sims do go based sound like
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  Speaker 2: again that high dollar single entry. If you upload a
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  Speaker 2: contest that fits that mold, instead of taking the flagship
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  Speaker 2: MMM ownership, which wouldn't be nearly as exact, it does
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  Speaker 2: take that high stakes one, so really powerful. A lot
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  Speaker 2: of the best players in the world, for sure, if
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  Speaker 2: they're playing a lot of money, are using sabersim nowadays,
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  Speaker 2: that's all I got mat anything before we go game
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  Speaker 2: by game.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to hop in real quick. So to
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  Speaker 3: your point, like it tailors to like what you're playing.
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  Speaker 3: So this kind of leads into like a broad slate
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  Speaker 3: like DFS theory conversation I think is kind of pertinent
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  Speaker 3: for this slate and people like that stuff. And there's
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  Speaker 3: only four games, So if I were playing one here,
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  Speaker 3: I would just kind of let Saber do its thing
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  Speaker 3: with Jokic, probably end up a little bit under because
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  Speaker 3: that's he's so highly owned. But what's your take on Like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, we just talked about how hard it is
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  Speaker 3: to get away from Yokic, but at the end of
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  Speaker 3: the day, it is an ownership game. So if you
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  Speaker 3: are pretty confident, like not even you personally, but like
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  Speaker 3: the proverbial, you are confident that he's going to be
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  Speaker 3: like ninety ninety one hundred percent owned in smaller field stuff,
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  Speaker 3: like at what point do you just say, I'm not playing.
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  Speaker 2: Him ninety six ninety seven ninety Yeah, And even.
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  Speaker 3: If you don't know either what he's going to come
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  Speaker 3: in at, right for.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, I mean that's yeah, that's the beauty that we play,
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  Speaker 2: trying to predict what others are doing in the field.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, and I'm I'm more willing to fade him,
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  Speaker 2: I think in the highest stake stuff when he is
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  Speaker 2: ninety seven versus like even if he's sixty eight percent
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  Speaker 2: in the flagship, Like I can look at that, it's
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  Speaker 2: still almost under own and you can throw our lineups
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  Speaker 2: than the people. I mean, just looking at our projection
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  Speaker 2: Sabersim and ship a nation, the average sixty nine. The
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  Speaker 2: next highest is forty six. You're looking at a twenty
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  Speaker 2: three point difference roughly from the next highest in Kuhi.
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  Speaker 2: And he might get a little bump with with no
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  Speaker 2: John Collins, but you get the point, Like it's so
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  Speaker 2: easy with the value in March, the FS late February,
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  Speaker 2: you always have value. You try and pick spens and yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he might even play three quarters in this spot, but
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  Speaker 2: they're applied for one hundred and twenty seven and nobody
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  Speaker 2: on Utah, I mean pencil in a triple doubles. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if he was ninety nine percent, Oh, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm like the one guy not playing him, sure, I
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  Speaker 2: mean just injury alone, maybe he can get you close
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  Speaker 2: with the bad games, but ninety four percent, I'm still
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  Speaker 2: probably playing them and hoping that six percent pays the rate.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like totally with you. I think that that's like
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  Speaker 3: exactly how to how to run it. And the problem
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  Speaker 3: is there's no way of knowing if he would be
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  Speaker 3: like the exact ninety nine percent you would want to
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  Speaker 3: not play him because the line is so thin, right,
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  Speaker 3: because like I don't want to be one of fifteen
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  Speaker 3: people not playing him. But if I'm the only one
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  Speaker 3: not playing him, like there's just so much leverage in
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  Speaker 3: any place or any DFS slate where I'm about it.
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  Speaker 3: But we just see eye to either he is going
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  Speaker 3: to be like high enough owned where I think that
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  Speaker 3: conversation like it is worth having if nothing else, you
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  Speaker 3: know for.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, And yeah we'll go through and like talk about
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  Speaker 2: Kawhi Sing Gooon, KD Murray. If you fade him, what
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  Speaker 2: would you do? Darryl in here. You're welcome, Speedy, you
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  Speaker 2: absolutely deserve it. I don't know if you saw this,
• 9:21
  Speaker 2: Matt again, take a little longer to get in than usual,
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  Speaker 2: only four games, but Speedy, this is my guy, Ian
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  Speaker 2: He's the one that shipped MMA two weeks ago with
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  Speaker 2: his one team. He put in three times in the
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  Speaker 2: flag ship one in one hundred solo shit, but then
• 9:33
  Speaker 2: duped himself three times for a smooth hundred and forty
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  Speaker 2: g's or something wild. So that's why man Ian.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I heard you guys talking about that the other day.
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  Speaker 3: I saw it the post. I heard you guys talking
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  Speaker 3: about it. I just didn't realize that was him. But man,
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  Speaker 3: what a what a performance. That's legendary stuff right there.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you don't see that too often. Like that
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  Speaker 3: is legendary. I think about like the best wins I've
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  Speaker 3: seen in the past few months, year or whatever. It's that,
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  Speaker 3: and it's the guy who took down like both million
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  Speaker 3: makers in NFL, like late in the season or playoffs.
• 10:03
  Speaker 3: I can't remember when it was, but both legendary.
• 10:06
  Speaker 2: Was that Peter Gibbons or something?
• 10:08
  Speaker 3: I think it was a random honestly, Oh was it?
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  Speaker 2: I thought maybe did it back to back weeks or
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  Speaker 2: something crazy? Maybe? Yeah, that's definitely definitely impressive, Jake. I
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  Speaker 2: will talk about when you get there. I think you're
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  Speaker 2: just wasting your time, though, Luis are are seeing here.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Let's go first, game of the night. A
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  Speaker 2: very big spread in this one fourteen and a half
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  Speaker 2: the Rockets favorite over the Washington Wizards two twenty five
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  Speaker 2: and a half total in this one. On the Houston side,
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  Speaker 2: no Jabari Smith. On the Washington side, no Vuksevich. No, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: only him and then Anthony Gill's questionable. So obviously they're
• 10:43
  Speaker 2: without I mean, like Ad won't play for him. There's
• 10:46
  Speaker 2: tray and stuff. They actually got more name value on
• 10:49
  Speaker 2: the Wizards than you'd expect. They just never gonna suit up.
• 10:51
  Speaker 2: But yeah, first game. We are seeing some ownership in
• 10:54
  Speaker 2: this game, even with it being fourteen and a half
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  Speaker 2: point spread. Really curious to hear your take on this,
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  Speaker 2: Like Washington, who's gonna play in garbage time if they're
• 11:01
  Speaker 2: down twenty five or something.
• 11:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tough, right, Like do they even know who's
• 11:06
  Speaker 3: gonna play right now in garbagetown? Down twenty five? You
• 11:09
  Speaker 3: know what I mean? So there are guys that are
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  Speaker 3: certainly in play here. If I'm Malti entering, I'm keeping
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  Speaker 3: a lot of these guys in my pool in like
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  Speaker 3: single entry three max type of stuff. I think that
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  Speaker 3: the Washington side looks less appealing than the Houston side.
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  Speaker 3: I think, guys I'm looking at, at least right now,
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  Speaker 3: Jaden Hardy thirty eight hundred. We know he's a guy
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  Speaker 3: that can get buckets when he's out there. How much
• 11:34
  Speaker 3: he'll be out there not sure again, I'm not even
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  Speaker 3: sure that they know right now. Washington's a really tough
• 11:39
  Speaker 3: team to peg down right now with no Vuksovic and
• 11:43
  Speaker 3: obviously Sara is who knows when he'll play again, Like
• 11:47
  Speaker 3: Will Riley projecting for good minutes, a lot of ownership
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  Speaker 3: depending on where do you look. I'm fine, excuse me,
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  Speaker 3: I'm fine with him, Like Phil's a weak small forward position,
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  Speaker 3: but I really don't want to overload myself on Washington here.
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  Speaker 3: Just a really tough matchup, and you're banking on the
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  Speaker 3: garbage time like a couple guys will get there because
• 12:09
  Speaker 3: they'll probably be in the rotation and then play garbage time.
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  Speaker 3: But it's difficult to know who so all in all,
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  Speaker 3: Washington is not a team I love here. Like Gil himself,
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  Speaker 3: if he's in, I'm just never paying forty five hundred
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  Speaker 3: for him. He's not a good fantasy producer. He'll play
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  Speaker 3: big minutes because they just don't have anyone else, but
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  Speaker 3: he's priced where he should be or a little bit
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  Speaker 3: too expensive. So I don't think I like Washington as
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  Speaker 3: much as the field. The Houston side, A couple guys
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  Speaker 3: I think look really good, one guy in particular, Reed Shepherd.
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  Speaker 3: Really hard to get away from him, A great spot,
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  Speaker 3: gonna play a lot of minutes. He's been really good
• 12:47
  Speaker 3: starting for Jabari. He looks like a foundation, you know,
• 12:51
  Speaker 3: building block type piece in all four mats, getting a
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  Speaker 3: lot of ownership, but he should even with a bunch
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  Speaker 3: of like three K four K value. He's way too
• 13:01
  Speaker 3: cheap at fifty seven hundred and looks like one of,
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  Speaker 3: if not the best play on the slate again, which
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  Speaker 3: he's been a bunch recently. So it's reach Shepherd for
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  Speaker 3: me as the only priority from this game, you know,
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  Speaker 3: the other Houston guys I'm in Thompson KD. As you
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  Speaker 3: mentioned earlier, like if you are playing a non Jokic
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  Speaker 3: build ALPI like Sengoon here, it's tough to play these
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  Speaker 3: guys and play Jokic. And if you're worried about the
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  Speaker 3: Jokic blowout, how you're not worried about the Sengoom blowout here,
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  Speaker 3: So little bit tough to tell myself a story where
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  Speaker 3: I want Sengoon like over Yokic. You can play them together,
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  Speaker 3: but then you're just limiting yourself everywhere else. So I
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  Speaker 3: don't think I want to spend up on Houston here.
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  Speaker 3: That said, Sengoon just went nuclear a couple of nights
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  Speaker 3: ago or a few games ago when I did not
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  Speaker 3: play him and he only played like that was another blowout,
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  Speaker 3: so he can certainly get there. And if you're not
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  Speaker 3: playing Jokic, I think the Houston spend ups look better
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  Speaker 3: for me. It's Shepherd and then everyone else.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm in agreement. I mean the Houston side. The
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: only other name I'd pretty much add is Tarry Easton
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  Speaker 2: at six point four K, because again, I if I'm
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  Speaker 2: playing ten teams, I'm playing Jokic in all ten. It
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: is hard to go Jokic Singho and use both center
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  Speaker 2: and util spot. I like other guys more. I'd rather
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: play like Jamal Murray. I'd rather definitely play Kawhi. I
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: just don't look like then KD I'm talking. I just
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: I think they blow him out. I don't think they
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  Speaker 2: really get the fourth quarter run and with a men
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  Speaker 2: Thompson tar Easton a pretty much fully healthy Houston team.
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  Speaker 2: I don't really want to bank on just one going
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  Speaker 2: completely nuclear, so it's reach up for for sure. And
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: then Easton at six to four. He's a solid per
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  Speaker 2: minute guy. If his shots are going in five x,
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  Speaker 2: I would definitely take on this late and his ownership
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  Speaker 2: is relatively in check, so it's pretty much only to
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  Speaker 2: their Washington side definitely too.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: Will Riley and Jaden Hardy. I mean Riley's played thirty
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: four and thirty five minutes the past two games. Looks
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: like he definitely can't get some blow up run again.
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: It's hard to predict, but I'm gonna sign me up
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: for like this twenty seven and a half minutes that
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: sabers projecting I think could be a little light. Hardy,
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: I mean he fills it up, yeah, always like Peyton
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  Speaker 2: in Dallas when he had a shot. And then I
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: think Koli Bally's fine at five percent. I mean he's
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: not gonna give blat run, but if he plays twenty
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: five minutes, he's gonna chuck. He's twenty seven to twenty
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  Speaker 2: eight percent usage as of late with the guys he's
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  Speaker 2: sharing the court with, So I think it'd be Riley, Hardy,
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  Speaker 2: kol of Balle, Riley the only one getting a little ownership.
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  Speaker 2: But I do think people will rather go mainly to
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  Speaker 2: Riley definitely gonna get some. But I think like some
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: Denver pieces, hard Away Straw, the Bruce Browns of the
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  Speaker 2: world are gonna get more ownership. So these Washington values
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  Speaker 2: are somewhat of a pivot off of them.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not sure about that. That's my only counterpoint. I
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  Speaker 3: think Riley himself is like.
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  Speaker 2: No Riley for sure, but of Hardy and Koli Balle
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: and anyone else outside of Hardy, you think do you
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: think any of those guys.
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: I thought you only met. I thought you were just
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: talking about right now.
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: No, Yeah, Riley's gonna probably be the highest value on
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: this next to Rea Shepherd. Two of the Chalkys vet
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: like five point seven k five to one. Mid tier
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: value like those are where people gonna go. But I
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: mean Gil Gill's gonna get some maybe a little bit
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: at center, but again most people playing Gil already gonna
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: play Jokic just center eligibility will keep his ownership down
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: a bit. I don't think Champagnie, Hardy, cool BALI no
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: you're think people go, yeah, good.
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: One of these guys. None of these guys are gonna
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: get love besides Riley and then Hardy a little bit.
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: And I'm more in on Hardy than Riley. I get
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: the Riley points. And if you think he's you know,
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: under projected minutes wise, then that would be a reason
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: to get on him.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: I know he's gonna be owned. I mean there's no
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: doubt about that. Like Riley, Yeah, I.
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: Mean, that's my biggest problem with him is that he's
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: gonna be owned where he should be in a really
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: tough spot. And there are a bunch of other really
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: good plays on this slate. So that's my hesitancy on him.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: That said, like, if I'm playing one fifty or multi entering,
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: it's not like I'm xing him out or lowering his projection.
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: I'm just not I'm not sure I want to want
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: to play into Will Riley Chuck and like smaller field,
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: higher dollar stuff.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: You know, it makes sense, Avery, I mean, if you're
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: only playing a couple of teams, sure, but I would
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: say two max probably, Like if you play Reed Shepherd
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: and then you are playing song gooon to get different.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: If you're building a portfolio. I'd be fine with Eason Shephard.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: I think I'm I'm in Thompson over sint Gun or
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: kd if picking just because it's easiest to seven point nine.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: K's easier than eight nine and nine to four to
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: play with Jokic, But no, I think Max wanted to
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: be too restrictive. All right, we'll keep it rolling. Next
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: game on the slates, I mean, really good game, real life.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: I'm excited for this one. Boston Celtics and Milwaukee Bucks
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: two and that point. Favorites of the Celtics two fifteen
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: and a half total. Why I'm excited. Giannis wasn't gonna
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: play now he is playing, or wasn't expected to. Jalen
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: Brown earlier in the day we thought he was playing,
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: He is now out. Nemus Kita is also out. So
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: pretty solid favorites were the where the Celtics now? It
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: is only two and a half, the second closest game
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: environment on the slate and not much ownership going. I
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: say not much. I mean, I guess I don't know
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: necessarily if I believe all of these numbers. Is Shireman
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: really going to be thirty five percent with Riley and
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: with some of the Denver stuff. Maybe I'm I think
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: I'm most curious to hear your take, Like Wall shutgo Gonzalez.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: These guys are really going to be the number that
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: they're showing. I believe the Ron Harper stuff, maybe it
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: still feels a little even that feels high. I don't know.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: I'm really curious hear your take on this. I think
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: people are definitely gonna go like the Voocha's and the
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: Pritchards because it's easy to play with Jokic and then
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: go value. But there's so much value on the slate.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: Not everyone can be thirty percent plus.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: No, You're right, and I think like like kind of
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: sorting through it to see what we think is just
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: the best way to do it. And I'm not exactly
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: sure how it's gonna play out, but I do have
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: an idea and from playing enough, I know trust my
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: gut with this type of stuff. I think that's starting off.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: Prichard and White are going to be owned. Pritchard, especially
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: like he looks good here. He's been really really productive,
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: especially when Jalen Brown is out. Derek White hasn't had
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: like a great year, but just get such a big
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: boost and it is just a really good spot. This
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: game now more competitive with Giannis in, Jalen Brown and
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: Kada out, So those two guys I think are going
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: to be owned. Rod Harper is going to be owned
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: for sure because he's likely to start thirty two hundred.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: He's been productive in this you know role before, so
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: I don't think he's like some guarantee a smash, but
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: I think he gets owned as one of if the
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: highest owned value on the slate. Go ahead, Okay, yeah, no.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: You said it. Forty five percent you think is pretty
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: close at least? Yeah, man, that would be my least
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: favorite of all we've talked about so far.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: I don't disagree with you, man, like I don't want
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: to play will Yeah, no, I'm with you, go ahead, Sorry,
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: I don't need to cut you off.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: No, Like I would almost consider like once you go Jokich, Riley, Shepherd,
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Harper or something like you're playing the same bill as everyone.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: It is a little restrictive to maybe max three or
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: just make sure you don't it all for but i'd
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: consider it for sure, and I think Sam's kind of
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: would see it's very similar and if you are doing that,
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: like you really better to get different at of your
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: other spots. But again, Jokic is my priority. I'll fade
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: any of the value the best value it ever, Like
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: whoever you're most confident in, I'd rather fade him than
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: Jokic when it's all said and done.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm totally with you there. And I think that
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: because of how owned some of these players you know,
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: are going to get tonight and have been getting. Like
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: the other night, I had a really good night in
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: the seven seven seven. It was because of the Naji
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: Marshall fade. Like Rio, we had talked about it and
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: he kind of talked me into it. I mean, Naji
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: Marshall played forty minutes the night before, back to back
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: and he was eighty five percent owned. Like there are
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: those are spots where just getting different. We talked about
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: it earlier with Jokic. Jokic is like a different beast.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: He's just his own entity. But when you got guys
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: like Naji Marshall, Ron Harper approaching sixty seventy percent, like
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: a lot of times they're going to do really well
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: because the own for a reason, but not as often
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: as their own. So I think it just again goes
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: into the original point I made at the beginning of
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: the show. It's an ownership game at the end of
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: the day. It's hard to see it that way when
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: we're like talking about each player, but it's a numbers game.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: So with that being said, I do think Harper is
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: really really highly owned. I don't think Shireman gets that
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: much ownership because he's not super cheap like Harper. He's
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: forty three hundred and his eligibility hurts him. Only shooting
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: guard eligible. I just mentioned White and Pritchard, they're gonna
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: get love reed Shepherd is gonna be like an auto
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: lock in most lineup, so it's a lot harder to
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: get to Shireman, So I think his ownership falls Harper's rises. Hugo,
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: Gonzalez and Walsh, I don't really see them getting love.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: I think they're just on the outskirts. They'll be pivots
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: off of Harper and Shireman, but I don't think they're
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: gonna be have a huge role in this slate personally.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: Vouch and Garza Vuoch especially gonna be really really highly owned.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: Have already seen it men in chat once, like just
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: play Vouch and Jokic at center. I mean, Vouch is
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: too cheap tonight for kDa being out sixty two hundred
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: and a really good spot Milwaukee. Again, I think this
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: game is competitive now, so he looks good. Luca Garza
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: is always a guy I'm interested in when he's gonna
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: play more minutes. Could certainly see it tonight at thirty
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: three hundred, and I don't think he gets a lot
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: of ownership, so he's a way to get different. Like
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: he's kind of a double pivot. Honestly, the more I
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: talk about it, the more I like it. A double
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: pinvot in the sense that pivot off of vouch and
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: also a pivot off of like Rod Harper and the
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: other cheap Boston value because he's the same price or
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: one hundred more than Harper. So that's really interesting to me.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: Another name all through out. So again I like Pritchard
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: and Derek White. One of them feels really strong to
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: have in multiple lineups. It makes a lot work. Sam Houser, though,
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: I think a mid or lower tier. I mean we're
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: talking homecomings. He's he's a Wisconsin kid up in Stevens Point.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: It's hours and hours away, but he'll definitely have family
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: and stuff in town, and no Jaalen like he's gonna
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: chuck from deep and if he does get hot, a
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: very good shooter. I mean he he could shoot nine
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: threes in this game if you get hot. Any guy
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: that's gonna shoot that much at low single or low
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: teens is what we're showing right now, makes a lot
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: of sense. And when you play him, maybe you're not
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: playing a Shireman or a Harper or someone more popular
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: like that as a pivot. So yeah, I mean, is
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: there any rules you would make or like a min
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: one Boston or anything like that.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: I would struggle to see lot. See here's my thing
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: with a rule like that, I would struggle to see
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: lineups that you know, on this four game slate that
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: weren't giving me at least one Boston.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and if the hair builders out there for him, right, yeah,
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: But I'm even saying if I were running one fifty, like,
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: I don't even know if that's a rule i'd set personally.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: And again I'm not the best at this because I
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: don't usually max one fifty, but like, I would presume
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: that almost all, if not all, the lineups would give
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: you a Celtics and if a couple didn't, like, okay,
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: I'd run with it, you know what I mean. Like,
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: if that's how Saber felt, that's how Saber felt. I
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: don't when I'm playing one fifty, don't make as many
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: rules as other people do. You obviously have to tailor
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: it to how you play, but I don't think that's
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: what i'd make. I think that, like you know, again,
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: usually maybe you'd be wanting to limit your White and
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: Pritchard exposure. But the problem is this slate just lacks
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: spend up options. There's only four games. They're in a
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: really good spot. I'm not sure the exact rules I'd
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: say right now.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if I'm not playing Jokich, I would be fine
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: playing Derek White and Pritchard together and then a four
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: games late. I don't usually play for ots and stuff,
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: but I mean on a slate like this with two
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: really big spreads ones two and a half, one's one
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: and a half, there is some merit to try and
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: play more people in a game with a one and
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: a half two and a half points, you get five
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: extra minutes in overtime. I mean that that goes a
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: long way on smaller slates on the and I would
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: Booch would be my least favorite of the spends I
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: do like Pritchard and White Moore. And again, a lot
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: of it comes back to the center position. When you're
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: playing Jokic and you go right to Booch. Hey, a
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: lot of people will do that combo and you're already
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: using a utel spot, so it limits you a little bit.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: On the Milwaukee side, man, it looks tough. Kpj has
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: been playing phenomenal basketball, but he's eighty seven hundred and
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: now Jannis is back, So these guys are priced like
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Giannis is not is not playing, even though Jannis won't
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: play a full minutes by any means, what twenty three
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: and a half roughly, Saber has. That's enough to really
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: put a whole thing in this team. So yeah, I'm
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: excited for real life. Can Thomas his first game with Giannis.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: They've been playing a little better, but nothing for me
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: in DFS. What about you?
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's really hard to get to these
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: guys just because Giannis is back and they're already super expensive.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: I guess the point would be though, like they're solo owned.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: It's like the reverse of the Jokicic Like yeah, you know,
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: like it's one game, Like what if you get that
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: ot spot. Like what if Denver just wins by seventy
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: and he doesn't play a lot of the second half,
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: Like again, I'm playing Jokic, But there are stories and
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: ways you can tell yourself of this sleep hang out
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: where like KPJ puts up fifty Fantasy points and is
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: needed to win tournaments. So yeah, long winded way of saying,
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: I'm not playing them, but they have a tournament appeal
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: because they're solo owned. Like I'm seeing under one percent
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: on a lot of these guys the way where.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: You look no and they will be I definitely believe
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: that ownership. Maybe like a cam Thomas forty two hundred.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: Just hope he like man when when KPJ or rounds
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: goes bad, like there's seven seven and eight seven, you're
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: the stone dead. Same thing with Giannis at least like
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: a cam Thomas and Miles Turner, maybe Kuzma, but I mean, yeah,
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: you're it's really thin. I don't love it. King says, uh,
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: first of all, only one Boston, I'll say maybe mid
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: one Boston, definitely, would it Max one Boston definitely not Ye.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: Not new to df has, but curious to see how
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: customizable Saber is usually only play a single entry. I mean, Saber,
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: you can do anything. You can change projection to like
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: forty five. You can change the ownership to whatever. You
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: can see how many Like I for sure want at
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: least three Boston. You can go to min exposure and
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: go thirty percent. Like. You can do so much.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: You can make.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: Rules, game stack games, stacks. Yeah, it's pretty much anything
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: you want. You can tailor it and narrow it down
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: to very very specific stuff. All right, we'll keep it
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: rolling Denver Nuggets and the Utah Jazz. And again I'm
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: just looking at the times. All four games are at
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: different times, seven eastern, seven thirty nine and ten eastern.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Levin that point favorites other Nuggets two forty two and
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: a half total by far the biggest on the slate. Again,
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: you can also see that in the team total for
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: the Nuggets. On the Nuggets side for injuries, Kim Johnson
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: is doubtful and Spencer Jones is questionable. On the Utah side,
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: no Kevin Love and then still no lowering, no Nurkics,
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: they're beat up, No Vince Williams. Unfortunate injury. But yeah,
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Utah's thin. I mean just sorting by ownership, though Denver, Denver, Denver, Denver,
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Denver most definitely will be owned. We spent a lot
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: of time on Jokic. Can you play Jokic and Murray?
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: That's the question. I'll throw it to you and then
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: break down this one.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: I think it's it's a good question. Like again, if
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: I'm Saber, if I'm playing one fifty on Saber, I'm
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: not saying I only like any lineups that they give
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: me with both I'm cool with. If I'm playing one
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: lineup or three entry Max stuff. It's gonna be tough
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: to play both of them because you're foregoing a lot
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: of other good players on the board to do that,
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: and don't really expect this game to be close. That said,
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: like you talk and hang around enough where they play
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: enough and they could both get there. Sure a couple
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: of the other games could not be great. Like just
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: talking this out, I'm not starting my lineups with Murray
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: and Jokic, but I don't think I have a huge
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: problem with playing them together. I do think that if
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: I'm not playing Jokic for any reason, like Murray is
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: a lock for me, because that's one of the only
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: ways I see Jokic not like nuking. Is Murray just
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: kind of nuking himself, which is totally plausible eighty eight hundred.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: He's been really good. I'm a huge Murray fan in general,
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: just love his game, so I'm always down with playing
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: some Jamal Jokicic is obviously the prize of this slate,
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: just really really hard to get away from. As we've
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: talked about, those two guys look amazing here. I don't
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: trust Utah to stay in this game, but you know
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: they should smash when they're on the floor anyways, So
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: I like both them a lot. I like other pieces
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: from Denver to Strawther you mentioned earlier. I think he's
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: got a role on this late Bruce Brown for sure, THHJ.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: Tim Hardaway wildly in play. And then I think my
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: favorite value piece here is Jalen Pickett, who I think
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: is going to be in the rotation for sure regardless
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: because of the guys they're missing. And then I think
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: he's gonna play all the blowout runs. So Pickett is
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: a guy that I'm wildly intrigued with here. I don't
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: think he gets nearly the same love as a bunch
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: of the value we talked about earlier, and I think
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: his ceiling is probably higher than a lot of those guys.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: So I'm in on pick It. I'm in on Jokic. Obviously.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: I like Jamal a lot. He's not going to be
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: crazy highly owned because of his tag and how highly
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: owned Jokic will be, But I like him here and
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: then the other Denver guys. I like like Denver is
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: going to get there. It's just a matter of how
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: long they're on the court.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: For someone asked earlier, I think it was our man Drew.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: If not playing Jokic, would you would you play Jovel
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: and just hope maybe the game does blow out and
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Joevel's like Jokic's minutes instead of him playing what thirty five,
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: which is projected, he plays twenty seven, And then is
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Jovel just the biggest beneficiar there is because it's getting
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: blown out? Are you going to see like a Zeke
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: nausea or something? So what are your thoughts on Jovel?
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: And just if Jokis does only play twenty seven minutes
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: because of a blow you.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: Do risk the point If Jokic is only playing twenty
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: seven minutes, the blot is probably so egregious that Javal
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: might lose Run two because he's old and they're not
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: gonna play him in like a forty point game for
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: a lot of the fourth quarter. So I think there's
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: a tough question to answer because of what I just said,
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: Like Javal is not guaranteed to get all the blowout run.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: But the counterpoint to that would be it's only four
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: games and center is really weak on this slate. So
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: Javal thirty five hundred I think certainly in play, But
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't be setting a rule like if I don't
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: have Yokic, I need I need valentiunis the rule for
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: me would be if I don't have Yokic, I need Murray.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: That makes sense. Yeah, I definitely agree with that. If
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: I'm not playing Yokic, I'm definitely playing Murray. King R said,
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: does Sabersim have prop projection stuff? So on the Ultimate package,
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: which is the highest it does have as you can see,
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: like this is Sabersim is what they're projecting for minutes,
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: how many points they're projecting him average projected points score
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: in the game. So no, I actually this is I
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: thought I didn't have to saber some of this question.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Actually I never, at the end of the day thought
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: of it like that. If it's historical numbers, I mean,
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Jamal is Yokich everything, thirty one point nine eight. I
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: guess I can just look it up right there, Colla
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Jokice points per game average? No, uh yeah, twenty eight
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: point seven to twenty eight point eight is what it's saying.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: So if that's right, which I think it is, then
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: that is projecting for tonight's game thirty one and a half.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Let me look real quick at drafting sports book to
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: see if if that's in the ballpark. I guess I
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: should have asked that. I've never at the end of
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: the day. Again, a lot of it's because that's all
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: baked into the projection. I know you're trying to use
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: it to sports bet, which is why I'm trying to
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: get you an answer this question. Twenty eight and a
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: half is his line on the sports book, so I
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: don't know. I'll have to ask that, but it is
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: the ultimate package. Do you have any thoughts on that, Matt?
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: If they're if this number like points per game rebounds,
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: is being projected for the night or just for the
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: average of the year.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: I would suspect it's like for the night.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: Because yeah, he's not actually averaging that for the year,
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: so I'd assume that that as well.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: And like his fantasy projection is based on that stuff,
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: and they're giving a fantasy projection based on tonight, you
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: know what I mean.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, so I think that is what it's saying.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: Obviously fantasy points per minute, it's historical, but yeah, on
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: the ultimate package, you can use that to.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: Help a couple of things. In chat, I just wanted
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: to comment on Big Money, Roca says, no, Nuggets always
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: let bad teams hang around. He's not wrong, Like they
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: do a lot more before this year, like their bench
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: was presumably better, but they're missing guys tonight, Like they
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: could easily let the jazz hang around here. One other
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: thing I wanted to do.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: That feels with at their prices, I'm not sure I
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: would do that necessarily. Hardaway's coming off a big game.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I guess, like, no, I wouldn't have because,
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: like you know, I trust Saber and a lot of
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: that stuff. If I'm playing one point fifty and if
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: they think that those guys paired together is a good
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: play at their price tags, like I'm not gonna fight that,
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: and again, it's not one of those things where I
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: would suspect half my lineups have both those guys I would.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: You can just click on it too, sorry to interrupt,
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: click on hardaway and it shows the positive or negative
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: correlation with everyone, and they only have a negative point
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: zero three, which would definitely lead me to not be
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: doing that.
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, It's just such a small slate. They're both
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: in a good spot. They're missing bodies, so those guys
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: could you know, have more usage, et cetera. Just they're
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: in a really good spot here, so definitely hard to
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: get away from Denver. I like Denver, like all these
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: Denver guys more than I like someone like Will Riley,
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: who I think is okay higher own than all these guys.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm man. I'm not gonna like fade the
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: the first game or anything, and I'm certainly not gonna
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: fade the Boston Milwaukee game. But I do think that
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: getting more exposure to the last two games certainly isn't
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: play on this slate. And another kind of broad slide
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: over you. I didn't mention at the beginning, but it's
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: kind of pertinent as we're talking it out. This is
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: like a clear slate where some teams are getting a
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: lot of love and other teams are getting zero, namely
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: Milwaukee and Utah. And I feel like there have been
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: a bunch of slates recently where like these teams that
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: are getting no love, like zero love, have been tournament winners,
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: you know, not the entire team, but players from those
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: teams because they're so low owned. And DFS is an
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: ownership game going back to that point, So just an
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: interesting perspective. I think that if I were playing one
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: point fifty here, I would have no problem getting a
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: little bit over the field on the Milwaukee and Utah guys,
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: because I think that again, if they're going to be
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: one to under one percent owned, I'm.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: In Utah guys. We haven't talked them. Like. Ace Bailey
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: is definitely someone I'm fine playing at six point two
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: k twenty six minutes. Like Sabers projected, I mean, he
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: can get you high thirties. Usage is very high. If
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: this game does, say somewhat close, and you are playing
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: a lot of Denver stuff, I think Ace Bailey is
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: a good reason has a lot to do with it.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: Philip Kowski's price takes big at least he's power forward,
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: eligibility Sensible, I think is another one which would be
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: a little interesting. Any like which guys stand out to
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: you for Utah if you're playing them, Yeah, it.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: Would be Ace for sure. Who would be the one
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: guy that you know I could get on board with here?
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: Like not a priority, but to your point, like fits
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: if you're playing a bunch of Denver guys at this
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: game is at least semi competitive, He's just going to
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: be the guy for them at that tag. Like the
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: other guys that you want to play aren't playing enough
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: and they're too expensive. Kyante Philipowski obviously, my boy, Kylier,
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: you just can't do it. So Ace for me, I
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: want to play, I want to be in on sensible,
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: but too many questions off the minutes. Conchar didn't start
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: last game with Kyante back like Blake Henson at thirty
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: five hundred. I think that as like a pivot off
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: of Ron Harper. I could get on board, like, I
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: don't know.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: You like to picket, you like to Oh ye, sure,
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: he's cheap, cheap and he's not gonna get it. That's
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: like your low on gym today. It sounds like he's
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: not really gonna get much ownership, and he's definitely a
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: pivot down low.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And to that point, I don't need like five
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: low on guys. You know one two is suffice an NBA.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: That's all you need, that's all you want. So for sure, Yeah,
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: Pickett is my guy here. Like I guess Hinson I've
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: just mentioned because we talked about Harper, I mean, Harper
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: is going to be fifty sixty percent owned. Hinson's going
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: to be five six percent owned probably, So it's Harper
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: ten twelve times more likely to outscore Hintson, I don't
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: think so.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense for sure. I mean, like you
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: mentioned the broad slid, I mean, teams are getting ownership
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: and then teams aren't. The Bucks are not being played,
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: Utah is hardly getting played. I'm really this last game
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: Clippers in Golden State, like outside of Kawhi, Clippers aren't
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: getting played Golden State. Maybe a little little more, but
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: not really. It's gonna ownerships going around the first game
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: and the Nuggets. So do that and Boston excuse me too,
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: but do that, uh with that information as you will
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: anything in that game, We'll take it to the last Uh.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: No, nothing else from the from the Utah game. And
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: I guess the biggest difference between Milwaukee and Utah for
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: me is like Kyante, Isaiah Collier, and Philipowski fit into
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: the Milwaukee guys because all the Milwaukee guys are too expensive.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: But like you start talking about like a Blake Henson,
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: you know, Ace isn't super price. He's still only sixty
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: two hundred. They have been. They've been hesitant to raise
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: his tag, like at least Utah, Like they're affordable in spots.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: So that's why I'm more interested in them than Milwaukee,
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: even if I don't really like them per se.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: Oh, I agree. I mean Milwaukee is my least favorite
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: on the slate. It's really tough. They're their price. Like
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: Giannis wasn't playing now he's playing, obviously. That's a lot
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: of usage, a lot of rebounding, a lot of stats
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: that are now taken away from other guys. All Right,
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: last game of the night's closest spread on the slates,
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: but the lowest total Clippers one in that point favorites
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: over the Golden State Warriors two fifteen and a half
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: total in this one. Injuries on the Clipper side, I'm
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: not seeing anything. Yeah, nothing, on the Clipper side as
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: far as Golden State, no porzingis, no Will Richard, Gary
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: Payton is questionable. Again, I mean, like Kawhi, he looks strong,
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Like if I'm not playing Jokic, I'm probably playing Kawhi
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: and Jamal Murray, like that's probably where I'm going as pivots,
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: and then I'm probably playing one of Peyton Pritchard and
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: Derek White. And I mean, the more you say it,
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: like I guess you can make a case for it
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: a little bit, but like that those are the clear ones.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: I like Kawhi, I like Jamal Murray much better than
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: I like the Sengoons, the Kds of the world.
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: I was gonna say, I'm I'm mostly with you, but
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: I do think that you could I would throw Sengoon
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: and Kawhi like I like Kawhi or but I think
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: seng Gun is like on the same level here just
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: because Garland's back for the Clippers, and like, yeah, I
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: do think that that, Like he's a guy that eats
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: into usage. He's really really good offensively, so when he's
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: on the floor, he's gonna have the ball in his hands,
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: which is gonna mean Kawhi is not gonna have the
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: ball in his hands. Might not matter. Again, this game
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: could be really really close, maybe a little bit higher
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: scoring than expected, And you want Kawhi, but I just
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: push Seng Goon kind of like to the point you're making, like,
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: if I'm not playing Jokic, I'm playing Murray and one
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: of those other guys. You sound like it's Murray and
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: Kawhi for sure. For me, it's Murray and then probably Kawhi,
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: but maybe Sangoon.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah that makes sense. I just like Garland might play.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: I don't know, like twenty minutes. I'm looking at points prop. Yeah,
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: twelve and a half points prop on this one, Like,
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: I think there is gonna be a lot of minutes
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: without with Kawhi staggered, and I just I like one
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: and that point spreads on a slate with two games
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: that very well could blow out, Like getting upper thirties
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: minutes possibly with Kawhi mid thirties sounds sounds good. Yeah,
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: I actually I've mentioned that earlier, but then I forgot
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: to right here. John Collins is out. Happened like five
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: minutes into our show. But yeah, I mean, man, outside
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: of Kawhi, this side is pretty tough to get to
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: like I guess mather and Hurt Like the Darland stuff
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: makes me like Matherin less than I did originally, because
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: like he was the second guy, the second playmaker was
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: definitely really good with his hands in the but with
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: the ball in his hands. But Garland just his minutes
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: anytime they're shared the court. I think his usage takes
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: one of the biggest hits. And like Derek Jones, Junior
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: Brook Lopez, Chris Dunne, I mean, there's just so many
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: solid five K and four K options that I think
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: are much better than these guys. I'd be more inclined
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: to go with the Golden State side and play I
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: don't know, maybe Al Horford Draymond Green's never a fun click,
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: especially if he is twenty percent Melton Man but man, like,
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: this is why they're not getting ownership either. Gui Santos
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: is sixty three hundred, Moses Moody sixty three hundred. Like
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: these guys have real price takes. I guess maybe pods
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: at seven to one. If this game is competitiven though
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: it's low scoring, pods can fill it up in multiple ways.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: But again, you're playing pods, you're harder to play Derek
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: White harder to play Prichard, which are clearly better plays
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: on paper. But you got to make pivots somewhere, So
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: I guess I'd be willing to more willing to play
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: like a Pods or something if I'm playing Kawhi. But yeah,
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: I mean this game's not really getting much ownership. Do
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: you do see pivots in this one?
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I do see pivots. I think that's the best
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: way to put it. Like again, to your point, I
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: don't think that these guys look as good as some
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: of the other plays on the slate, but this game
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: has a really tight spread. I think the idea of
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: playing I don't want to like go eight pieces from
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: this game or seven pieces from this game, but the
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: thought of playing like Kawhi and then running it back
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: with three Golden State guys is intriguing to me, if
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: nothing else. So I don't like anything from the Clippers
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: outside of Kawhi Brook Lopez. I could see getting there,
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: but just too fringy for me. From the Golden State
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: side though, it's the three guys you mentioned mostly Melton Pods,
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: Gie Santos. The problem is to your point, like, if
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: you're playing Melton and or pods like who are you
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: not playing between Pritchard, White, Reed Shepherd? Obviously, like there
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: are guard plays that just really stand out here. But
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: I think with how condensed ownership is in NBA dfs
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: right now, it's at least worth we're thinking about those
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: pivots because even in a contest like the five five
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: five with four hundred people in the night, like a
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: lot of those lineups are gonna come from sims, So
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: we kind of know where the ownership's going. We know
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: those are the best plays, but maybe getting away from
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: those guys is worth more than it was, you know,
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: even a couple of years ago for sure.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, a couple two years ago compared to
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: like nowadays is pretty much a night and day game.
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I should like you, I should have said, like a
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: couple months ago or last year. It changes, it changes
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: every day.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I won't be surprised if like ninety
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: percent of users eighty five like play or you sabersim
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: and most of that in the ultimate stuff in that
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: five fifty five, I mean people can throw in twenty teams,
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: thirty teams or whatever, and people do do that. What
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: uh Yeah, someone asks his Quai even playing the back
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: to back with relatively healthy He only did play twenty
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: nine minutes yesterday. Seeing one and a half plaint favorites,
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: I think kind of indicates that to me. But I
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: don't know. I guess, are the Clippers and Warriors like
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: this Warriors team right now? What does the line tell
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: you anything? I'm leaning Kawhi is in, but like if
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: he's not, and you don't get that news until after
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: the death of stuff, I mean gg like you're you're toast.
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: Well that's kind of the Also, I didn't even mention that.
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: But there's also a leverage in playing a lot from
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: the last game because of something like that, like the
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: unknown news that we might we probably won't get, but
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: an NBA is at least possible, like especially it was
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: someone like Kawhi on a back to back. I fully
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: expect Kawhi to play. But I'm wrong.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: Craziest thing I guess, Yeah, yeah.
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: Like I mean, I guess I don't compare to this.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: Like you asked me last night, I didn't think Lebron
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: would play. He played. Now a little bit of a
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: different scenario because Kawhi isn't even on the injury report.
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: But Like, would anyone be shocked if Kawhi was just
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: out tonight at nine eastern? How could you be? This
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: is the guy that multiple times has been fully healthy, dominating,
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: left games at like halftime, and has missed the entire
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: season after that. Like, so who knows with him? You
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: know what I mean? Yeah, I'm not playing for that,
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: but doesn't hurt the case to be playing more from
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: the Golden State Clippers game, because all of a sudden,
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: if Kawhi's out, like Mathin looks like an elite play.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, one hundred percent, Matherne would be phenomenal, And
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: then like a Derek Jones would be more in play,
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: Chris Dunn would be more in play. Even though Carlin
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: Back definitely does bumped on down a little bit, I'd
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: be more likely to play Brooke Lopez. His usage would
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: go up a little bit. Yeah, I mean, no, Kawhi,
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: it would definitely change a slate. But I'm not gonna
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: play like for that today. But if you have Kawhi
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: and he gets ruled out, I mean you just have
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: nowhere to go, Like in this game, the next highest
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: priced guys.
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: Oh you're dead, that's what you were saying. You were
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: saying the other side of it, like kawai you're dead.
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: I mean, if you play Kawaiian he's out, You're done.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but again it's I don't know, he's twenty eight percent.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: I still think he's a good play. All indication that
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: he will play.
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: I would not not play him because of that, Like
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: that is just a total It seems more likely because
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: it's Kawhi, but that could happen to literally any player
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: in the NBA, So you can't play lineups based on that,
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: at least in my opinion.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, especially because like again looking at the slate,
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: Yo kich is twelve five and a great play. You're
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: not playing Giannis. And then below that, like Jamal Murray
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: is a little tougher with the O Kitch Katie and Singoon.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: We already poked the holes in KPJ with Giannis back
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: seemed pretty much unplayable. So like you're already down to
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: eight point two k and four games slate. There's only
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: so many guys. He is the second highest projected guy
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: on the slate is Kawhi Leonard. So yeah, I mean,
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: I think be covered it pretty well. We know ownership
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: is gonna go to Boston is gonna go to Denver
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: and by far the two chalkiest spots there. Some is
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: then gonna go to the Houston Washington stuff. No one's
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: gonna play Milwaukee. People are gonna go Kawhi, and then
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: pretty much nothing else in that Golden State Clippers game.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: For the most part, I would just definitely, like last thing,
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: just be really cautious when it comes to ownership when
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: I'm playing Jokic to my next guy's Will Riley and
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: my next guy's Peyton Pritchard or whatever maybe, and then
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: Ron Harper, like, man, you're just going to the same
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: build as everyone else. So I would definitely be cognizant
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: on what you're doing when you're plugging in some of
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: the highest zone like you always should, but a lot
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: more when it's four games and then four games and
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: then a couple of teams aren't getting ownership, so it's
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: even like a three game slate almost. It feels like, so, yeah,
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: what are your final thoughts.
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: So here's how I kind of look at that, Like
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: the ownership, like the guys that are getting the most
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: ownership are the best plays, but with how condensed ownership
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: is these days, like the plays that like, aren't that
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: far off the best plays, Like the good plays just
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: aren't getting as enough love because the best plays are
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: getting so much love. So that kind of goes to
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: your point at the beginning, Like it's much easier to
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: pivot off the value than it is yokic because there's
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: only one yolkic that aren't spend ups. But like the
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: values fringy, it's just getting condensed and concentrated because those
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: guys are projecting the best. But there's a lot of
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: power in getting different in at least a couple spots.
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: Like to your point, you don't need to get off
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: the reservation to get different in NBA DFS, you just
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: have to be conscious of playing like all the most
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: popular guys because you're just it's too thin of a
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: line to win tournaments like that. Like you can get
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: really lucky, but when you're playing a two for two,
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: it's usually not going to work out for your favor guys.
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: You know, the slate doesn't often work out. We're like,
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: all the top eight plays are the guys you need. Like,
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: it often is different, and that's why it's a fun game.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, DFS is a phenomenal game. It's only
• 49:04
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