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Episode #3976 The New Phil Hendrie Show Radio Archive November 2004 · The World of Phil Hendrie

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Speaker 1: Welcome, everybody, to another Radio Archive Hour for today, the
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Speaker 1: 2nd of November, 2026. This is from November 2004. It's
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Speaker 1: a Bobby Dooley hour that we did. Bobby came on
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Speaker 1: the show talking to us about how she was trying
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Speaker 1: to dissuade neighborhood kids from becoming Catholic. I think the
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Speaker 1: Pope might have been visiting America this time.
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Speaker 2: I'm not sure.
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Speaker 1: Dissuade them because he wears a funny-looking hat. She basically
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Speaker 1: said he wears rolled-up cardboard.
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Speaker 2: On his head.
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Speaker 1: But it's, yeah, it's Bobby Dooley. It's way over the
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Speaker 1: borderline of what's in good, proper taste. It's way over
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Speaker 1: the borderline in terms of intelligence. In other words, it's
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Speaker 1: the Phil Hendry Show.
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Speaker 3: From the Western Estates Homeowners Association, the president of the
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Speaker 3: Western Estates Homeowners Association, we're very pleased to have on
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Speaker 3: our program right now is Bobby Dooley, along with her husband, Steve,
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Speaker 3: who also is a member of their homeowners board. And
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Speaker 3: you were mentioning trying to put the election behind you.
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Speaker 3: I know that you were a Cary supporter, but you're
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Speaker 3: Moving on, right?
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Speaker 4: Yes. I think the best thing for a lot of
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Speaker 4: us to do, and I'm thinking good thoughts, positive thoughts
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Speaker 4: about our country, and I'm just really trying to put
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Speaker 4: the election out of my mind. But I was thinking
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Speaker 4: about our boys. Justin Seth and Dylan are going to
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Speaker 4: be really gone in a few years. This is Justin's
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Speaker 4: senior year.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I know.
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Speaker 2: Our eldest is already his first year in college.
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Speaker 4: You know, and it seems like such a short time
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Speaker 4: ago that they were little people. And I do have
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Speaker 4: a natural instinct as a mother, so I want to
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Speaker 4: work with young people.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's nice being around the kids.
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Speaker 4: It really is. And I have, I guess you could say,
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Speaker 4: a unique relationship with a lot of the kids in
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Speaker 4: our neighborhood. In a lot of ways, they see me as,
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Speaker 4: I suppose they see Steve and I as just another
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Speaker 4: one of them because we're very down to earth. We
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Speaker 4: talk to kids on their level. We know a lot
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Speaker 4: about their music, a lot of the bands. like Creed.
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Speaker 4: We know Creed. We know Stone Temple Pilots.
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Speaker 5: Don't say Stone Temple Pilots.
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Speaker 4: We know those groups.
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Speaker 5: Tell them about when we have the kids over.
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Speaker 2: Is that Steve?
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: How you doing, Phil?
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Speaker 4: Phil, I wanted to get to what Steve just reminded
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Speaker 4: me about. I think what is so important for the
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Speaker 4: kids is that they feel as if they belong.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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Speaker 4: And that they aren't ostracized from the mainstream. And you
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Speaker 4: don't like to see a kid... Make choices that will
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Speaker 4: ultimately get them ridiculed or laughed at.
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Speaker 2: Well, I agree. No kid wants to be laughed at,
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Speaker 2: that's for sure, especially at that time in your life.
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Speaker 4: It is true. And Justin, who's my eldest, was home
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Speaker 4: the other night with some of the kids. And there were,
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Speaker 4: I don't know, there were three or four other boys
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Speaker 4: and girls that he knows from school, and one or
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Speaker 4: two were playing a video game and so on. But
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Speaker 4: I did get to talking with one of the girls.
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Speaker 4: And she was telling me that she's taking these CCD classes.
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Speaker 4: Are you familiar?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's studying to be Catholic. It's like Catholic education.
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Speaker 4: Yes, because the kids go to a public school. Well,
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Speaker 4: I heard that, and I sort of looked at her,
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Speaker 4: and I looked at Steve, and I gave him one
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Speaker 4: of these looks, and I can tell he knows what
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Speaker 4: I'm thinking.
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Speaker 5: I just shook my head.
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Speaker 4: And I looked at her, and I said, why do
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Speaker 4: you want to be Catholic? And here's why I ask that, Phil.
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Speaker 4: It doesn't make sense that a teenager, someone who's in
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Speaker 4: the midst of emerging as an adult, and as I
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Speaker 4: just said, is trying to fit in to choose a
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Speaker 4: religion that, I guess, lets you in for a little
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Speaker 4: bit of mockery.
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Speaker 2: Well, you know, I mean, everyone runs the risk of
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Speaker 2: being mocked for their religious beliefs.
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Speaker 4: But the Catholic religion has, I guess, I think there's
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Speaker 4: a little bit more opportunity. I'll give you an example,
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Speaker 4: and this is what I said to Rebecca, the Pope.
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Speaker 4: who is the man that is in charge of the Catholics,
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Speaker 4: is often seen in public wearing this hat.
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Speaker 5: Oh, my God.
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Speaker 4: Every time you see it, you can't turn away. You
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Speaker 4: can't turn away because you don't want to offend a Catholic.
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Speaker 2: You're talking about his mitre?
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Speaker 4: I don't know what it's called. It's the mitre.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's called a mitre.
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Speaker 4: Well, here's my point. Since the boys are getting older...
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Speaker 4: I can see a day when they won't be here,
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Speaker 4: and I'm feeling a little anxiety about that, and I
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Speaker 4: want so very much to stay involved with young people.
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Speaker 4: So I like it when the kids come over, and
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Speaker 4: I want to maybe start a discussion group at our home.
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Speaker 4: And when Rebecca, when this subject came up.
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Speaker 5: You want to help them?
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Speaker 3: Well, you're trying to dissuade this girl from becoming Catholic
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Speaker 3: because you have some problem with the philosophy?
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Speaker 4: No, and I want to make that clear. I don't
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Speaker 4: have a problem with anyone's religion. I think all religions
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Speaker 4: are fine if that's what you personally choose. It's simply
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Speaker 4: that Catholic... the Catholic offers a wider opportunity for a
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Speaker 4: young person to be ridiculed.
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Speaker 2: Well, I don't think that's entirely fair.
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Speaker 4: Well, Phil, you have a religion.
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Speaker 2: I mean, she's chosen this of her own volition.
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Speaker 4: No, but you have a religion that has as its
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Speaker 4: leader a man who comes out in this hat. And
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Speaker 4: Steve and I were watching, we saw a special on television,
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Speaker 4: I forget what it was, but it was the Pope,
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Speaker 4: and he was at.
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Speaker 5: A, Concentration camps.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, it was about.
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Speaker 4: Concentration camps, which is a horrible thing. And here's this
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Speaker 4: man in the middle of this concentration camp where so
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Speaker 4: many people died. And he has on this hat that
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Speaker 4: looks just ridiculous.
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Speaker 3: But it is the traditional hat that the Pope wears.
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Speaker 3: And I suppose it's a funny-looking hat.
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Speaker 4: But it lets a young person in for ridicule. And
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Speaker 4: I want to stay involved with the kids as my
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Speaker 4: boys grow older. I want to get really into influencing
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Speaker 4: young people. And I told her, I said, you want
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Speaker 4: to think a little bit about it.
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Speaker 2: Well, did you tell her, don't be a Catholic because
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Speaker 2: the Pope wears a funny hat?
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Speaker 4: No, I did not. Obviously not. But I said, no, Steve,
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Speaker 4: what I said was, you're going to be ridiculed. And
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Speaker 4: one of the things people will say is, look at
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Speaker 4: that hat that he wears.
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Speaker 2: Well, the Pope wears a funny hat has been the
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Speaker 2: object of.
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Speaker 8: No, I know.
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Speaker 4: A lot of jokes.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of jokes.
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Speaker 4: But this is for a young person, so very serious.
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Speaker 4: If it was an adult, I wouldn't say anything. But
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Speaker 4: because I'm a mother, and because I'm so very attuned
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Speaker 4: to young people, you know, that I would say this.
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Speaker 4: And I just want to stay involved with young kids.
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Speaker 4: And this was a great opportunity to say to her,
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Speaker 4: you're going to be.
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Speaker 4: He was wearing this hat, like I say, at a
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Speaker 4: concentration camp. At a concentration camp?
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Speaker 3: At a concentration camp. All right, our number is 1-800-449-8686.
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Speaker 3: Bobby and Steve Dooley join us here on the Phil
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Speaker 3: Henry Show. We were talking about the aftermath, really not
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Speaker 3: so much of the election, but just kind of putting
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Speaker 3: the election behind. You're really talking about something a little
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Speaker 3: more primal, Bobby, about your boys moving out and how
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Speaker 3: you want to stay involved with kids.
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Speaker 2: Now, this is a young lady who is a high
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Speaker 2: school student.
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Speaker 4: Yes, she's one of Justin's classmates, yes.
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Speaker 2: She's a senior?
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Speaker 9: Yes.
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Speaker 2: All right, so she's pretty close to being an adult,
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Speaker 2: and she's going.
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Speaker 4: But she still is not technically an adult. And I
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Speaker 4: said to her that.
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Speaker 2: Hold on for a minute.
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Speaker 4: What?
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Speaker 2: Are you saying something to.
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Speaker 5: Me?
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Speaker 2: What am I hearing on the air here other than Bobby?
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Speaker 4: I don't hear anything.
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Speaker 2: No, I heard something in my headphones. You got a
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Speaker 2: pot open or something there.
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Speaker 5: Go ahead.
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Speaker 4: What I was saying was that... this young lady is
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Speaker 4: going to be making a decision that will affect her
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Speaker 4: for the rest of her life. And she needs an adult.
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Speaker 2: Well, what about her parents? What about the people that
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Speaker 2: will influence her ultimately?
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Speaker 5: Well, that's the problem, Mr. Henry. Her parents are people
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Speaker 5: that we don't have a high level of confidence in
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Speaker 5: because they are people that don't live in our community.
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Speaker 4: They don't live in the gated community that we live in.
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Speaker 4: They live outside of our gates.
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Speaker 2: Do they live in an adjoining community?
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Speaker 4: They live in a non-gated area, and that's fine, and
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Speaker 4: there's nothing wrong with that. I'm not a snob. But
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Speaker 4: I don't know if when you live in an area
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Speaker 4: that isn't gated, and you're living in this area that
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Speaker 4: isn't gated, what kind of control do you really have
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Speaker 4: and influence do you have over your children? So to
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Speaker 4: communicate this.
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Speaker 2: You brought up the Pope's hat.
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Speaker 4: Well, you're trying to make it sound.
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Speaker 3: juvenile and well i'm not i don't want it to
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Speaker 3: sound juvenile but you're saying in order to get onto
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Speaker 3: this this young lady's level this young girl's level you're
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Speaker 3: i said to her.
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Speaker 4: Look at the hat that this man wears and you
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Speaker 4: want to be catholic and these are ccd classes uh
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Speaker 4: they are catholic educated no i.
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Speaker 3: I know what they are and you know i was
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Speaker 3: raised catholic i know because i was raised catholic i
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Speaker 3: never did a ccd class i just went to school
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Speaker 3: with it but It is for people who are studying
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Speaker 3: to be Catholics. Don't you think this is a little
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Speaker 3: like making fun of the yarmulke that Jewish people wear?
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Speaker 4: No, I really don't. I really don't.
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Speaker 2: Why?
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Speaker 4: Because we're used to seeing that. Everyone wears it. All
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Speaker 4: of the Jewish people wear it on holidays. You don't
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Speaker 4: see Catholics wearing this sort of, it's almost as if
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Speaker 4: he's rolled up cardboard, you know. and put it on
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Speaker 4: his head, and you don't see a lot of Catholics
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Speaker 4: doing that. I'm concerned that a young girl emerging, living
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Speaker 4: at a time in her life where ridicule from her
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Speaker 4: fellows is so deeply felt, is making a terribly wrong
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Speaker 4: decision by joining this religion where the man who is
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Speaker 4: in charge of the religion has a hat that, you know,
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Speaker 4: people look at and say... What's up with that?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, what's up with that?
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Speaker 4: What's up with your hat?
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Speaker 3: Do you understand, the two of you, how kind of
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Speaker 3: silly this sounds?
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Speaker 4: Well, Phil, we're not trying to.
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Speaker 2: It sounds a little silly.
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Speaker 4: What we're doing is, Phil, I've been a mother for
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Speaker 4: 18 years. I have three boys that are going to
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Speaker 4: be going out into the world. I am good at
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Speaker 4: what I do. Let me just say it. I'm good
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Speaker 4: at what I do. I'm a mother. And I know
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Speaker 4: what is right for a young person and what isn't.
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Speaker 4: And the only way you can talk to a young
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Speaker 4: girl who's choosing to be a Catholic is just lay
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Speaker 4: it out for her. They're going to make fun of
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Speaker 4: you because this guy's got this hat.
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Speaker 5: The other guy's got a funny hat, and the girl's
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Speaker 5: going to be ridiculed about it and everything else.
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Speaker 4: So that's the point that I'm trying to drive home here.
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Speaker 3: Well, I admire you for wanting to stay involved with
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Speaker 3: young people. I admire you for wanting to still have
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Speaker 3: influence and having discussion groups. I don't know that dissuading
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Speaker 3: someone from becoming a Catholic because the Pope goes out
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Speaker 3: in public wearing this unorthodox hat, and therefore she will
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Speaker 3: be the subject and the object of ridicule by her
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Speaker 3: fellows is the best way to discount her choice of Catholicism.
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Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying. 1-800-449-8686.
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Speaker 3: On the Phil Henry Show tonight, we are joined by
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Speaker 3: Bobby and Steve Dooley of the Western Estates Homeowners Association.
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Speaker 3: And on Bobby talking with one of the classmates of
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Speaker 3: her son, Justin, who is taking Catholic education classes. They
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Speaker 3: feel she's making a mistake because of the hat. It's
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Speaker 3: the Phil Henry Show.
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Speaker 2: The Phil Henry Show won't float without pontoons. The Phil
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Speaker 2: Henry Show is back.
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Speaker 7: 1-800-449-8686.
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Speaker 2: Okay, Bobby Dooley joins us.
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Speaker 4: I wanted to ask you a question.
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Speaker 2: Go ahead.
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Speaker 4: I hope you don't mind that I'm doing a little
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Speaker 4: soaking in a tub right now. Steve and I got
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Speaker 4: back from the gym and I pulled a muscle and
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Speaker 4: I'm just trying to work some of the, I'm trying
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Speaker 4: to get a little bit, the muscles oxygenated. So if
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Speaker 4: you hear the jets in our pool going, I hope
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Speaker 4: you don't mind.
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Speaker 2: I can hear a little splashing, but it's not too distracting.
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Speaker 2: I hope you're okay.
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Speaker 4: You know, I think I'm all right, but I did
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Speaker 4: pull a muscle in. I've had sort of an aggravated
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Speaker 4: problem with this calf muscle of mine, and so I'm
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Speaker 4: just soaking a little bit.
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Speaker 5: All right.
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Speaker 3: Before we take some phone calls, you made a comment
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Speaker 3: about young people not wanting to be ridiculed, and that's
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Speaker 3: why you've talked to this young girl who is a
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Speaker 3: friend of your son's, and the kids come over to
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Speaker 3: your house.
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Speaker 4: That is correct, yeah.
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Speaker 2: And that's great.
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Speaker 3: And you talked to her, and she says she's studying
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Speaker 3: to be Catholic, and you said, well, the Pope and
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Speaker 3: this hat... that he wears will get you a lot
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Speaker 3: of ridicule.
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Speaker 4: Let me put it in a simpler way. Young women, especially,
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Speaker 4: are devastated if on the night of a big date,
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Speaker 4: they look in the mirror and they find a blemish
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Speaker 4: on their face, a pimple.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 4: You would never get them out of the house unless
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Speaker 4: you could do something about that pimple. The Pope is....
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Speaker 5: You're lying to me. I don't think a joke is
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Speaker 5: seen like a pimple is seen.
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Speaker 4: The Pope is like having a pimple in a way.
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Speaker 4: Not so much the Pope, but the hat that he
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Speaker 4: has is like, it really is like an enormous pimple
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Speaker 4: that you look at and you go, my God. And
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Speaker 4: so why would she want to walk around saying, hi,
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Speaker 4: I'm Catholic, when she knows the immediate response is going
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Speaker 4: to be, are you really a member of that religion
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Speaker 4: where the man who is the man who's... You know,
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Speaker 4: the man who is in charge of everything wears a
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Speaker 4: cardboard hat. And this is why it's so important for
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Speaker 4: us to stay in touch with our children. All right.
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Speaker 3: The pimple analogy is interesting. 1-800-449-8686. Bobby and Steve Dooley.
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Speaker 2: Here's Helen.
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Speaker 5: Helen, hi.
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Speaker 2: You're on with Bobby Dooley from the Western States Homeowners Association.
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Speaker 3: Hello.
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Speaker 2: Yes, ma'am.
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Speaker 8: I called in with a comment.
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Speaker 7: Go ahead, ma'am.
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Speaker 8: This is the first time I've ever called a radio
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Speaker 8: talk show. But I was so infuriated listening to this woman.
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Speaker 8: I'm going to talk now, and you're not going to interrupt.
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Speaker 4: No, I'm not listening.
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Speaker 8: You're not going to interrupt me because I'm going to talk.
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Speaker 4: I'm not interrupting you. I'm listening to you. Okay.
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Speaker 8: I am so infuriated that this woman is talking about
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Speaker 8: the Pope's hat and that, She is such a friend
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Speaker 8: of the teenagers in the area that she is going
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Speaker 8: to advise these children not to go to CCD. They
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Speaker 8: could be ridiculed for being Catholic. And even though this
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Speaker 8: girl doesn't quite live in the right community gated area
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Speaker 8: like she does, sitting in her swimming pool, working out
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Speaker 8: in her gym, even though she says she's not a snob, oh.
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Speaker 6: God, where did you ever find this lady?
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Speaker 8: I mean, she is on your radio station talking like
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Speaker 8: she's an advocate for children.
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Speaker 2: Well, are you addressing your comment to me, Helen? Are
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Speaker 2: you addressing your comment to me or to the caller?
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Speaker 4: Well, let me help her out, Phil. Why? Thank you
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Speaker 4: for your comment, Helen, but let me help you with
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Speaker 4: your comments.
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Speaker 8: No, you know, I don't even want to hear your rhetoric.
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Speaker 7: You are so far off that you are.
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Speaker 8: Completely a poor snob, and I don't want to waste
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Speaker 8: any time.
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Speaker 7: Thank you. I just had my comment.
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Speaker 2: Well, Helen, this is Phil. Helen, this is Phil. Helen,
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Speaker 2: this is Phil Henry. Are you still there?
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Speaker 4: Yes.
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Speaker 3: Okay, it isn't quite fair for you to come up
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Speaker 3: on the air, talk over everybody, and then say, I
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Speaker 3: don't want to hear anything.
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Speaker 2: Oh, okay. If you call in to engage somebody.
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Speaker 4: Well, Phil, I don't want to talk to her. She's
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Speaker 4: obviously a Catholic, and they're very close-minded.
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Speaker 2: Well, I got her to stay on the line.
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Speaker 4: She's Catholic.
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Speaker 2: Are you Catholic?
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Speaker 8: Of course I'm Catholic.
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Speaker 4: Well, those people are the most narrow-minded.
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Speaker 7: Hundreds of millions of other people.
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Speaker 4: They're the most narrow-minded people in the world.
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Speaker 8: Well, see, this woman is obviously anti-Catholic.
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Speaker 4: Let's talk about the concentration camps. Well, what was the
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Speaker 4: Pope's part in the concentration camps? Can we talk about that?
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Speaker 2: Wait a minute. Now, let's not.
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Speaker 4: No, no, see, when you get on that, they don't
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Speaker 4: want to talk about it.
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Speaker 8: Well, we've heard it for 60 years. Do you think
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Speaker 8: we've heard enough of it?
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Speaker 4: Don't you think that a young lady who is thinking
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Speaker 4: about joining a religion that thinks it's funny to wear
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Speaker 4: rolled-up cardboard on their head should be advised against that?
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Speaker 6: I think that whatever.
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Speaker 8: Meaning that has to the religion.
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Speaker 8: And her parents are guiding her through. Is none of
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Speaker 8: your business to advise or to be on the air
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Speaker 8: with your snobby attitude?
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Speaker 4: I'm trying to let a young woman know that by
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Speaker 4: becoming Catholic, people will accuse her of having helped put
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Speaker 4: Jews into ovens. Oh, come on.
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Speaker 2: I was raised Catholic.
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Speaker 9: I've never heard of that one.
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Speaker 4: Well, you're hearing it now, Helen.
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Speaker 8: Well, I'm hearing that is your little narrow opinion.
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Speaker 4: Well, it happens to be in history books. But anyway,
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Speaker 4: I'm done. I'm done. I'm done.
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Speaker 2: Oh, good.
17:03
Speaker 4: I'm done, too.
17:04
Speaker 7: Thank you.
17:05
Speaker 4: You go back to your church or whatever you do.
17:08
Speaker 2: All right.
17:08
Speaker 3: Now, look, I want to make sure that this doesn't
17:11
Speaker 3: turn into some Catholic bashing.
17:12
Speaker 4: All I said was the Pope has rolled up cardboard
17:16
Speaker 4: on his head.
17:16
Speaker 10: Beware.
17:19
Speaker 2: All right, 1-800-449-8686. Let's go to Joan. Joan, you're on
17:23
Speaker 2: The Phil Henry Show.
17:25
Speaker 10: I'm also incensed as listening to this woman.
17:28
Speaker 6: And if you could please stop with.
17:30
Speaker 10: The uh-huh, because you're trying to override what I'm going
17:34
Speaker 10: to say.
17:35
Speaker 7: I'm certainly not.
17:37
Speaker 10: You think that you are good at what you do?
17:41
Speaker 7: You're a mother.
17:41
Speaker 10: There are millions of mothers out there.
17:44
Speaker 7: My dear, the only thing you want to involve with.
17:46
Speaker 10: Your children is that you are afraid of growing old.
17:51
Speaker 10: And as far as saying... Who isn't?
17:54
Speaker 4: Who isn't?
17:55
Speaker 7: I'm not. I'm not. I'm embracing everything that's real.
18:00
Speaker 4: Why don't you pull the other one and see if
18:02
Speaker 4: it's real?
18:03
Speaker 10: But you know something? You are a Catholic basher. And yes,
18:07
Speaker 10: I am Catholic.
18:09
Speaker 7: And yes.
18:10
Speaker 10: I grew up, went to Catholic school, and I have
18:13
Speaker 10: never been ridiculed.
18:14
Speaker 4: Some of my best friends are Catholic.
18:16
Speaker 10: You were ridiculing that girl's parents because they didn't live
18:21
Speaker 10: in the gated community.
18:22
Speaker 4: It wasn't ridicule. You are the typical liberal.
18:25
Speaker 10: I can understand why you wrote it for Carrie, but dear...
18:29
Speaker 10: Just like Carrie, you will go down the drain.
18:33
Speaker 7: Carrie's Catholic, and I voted for him. I don't have
18:36
Speaker 7: any problem with that.
18:40
Speaker 4: Well, Carrie's Catholic, and I voted for him, so I
18:43
Speaker 4: don't have a problem with that.
18:44
Speaker 10: Well, I think that you to go around to try
18:47
Speaker 10: to influence a child and say that you're going to be.
18:51
Speaker 7: Please stop that.
18:52
Speaker 4: I'm listening to you.
18:54
Speaker 10: That is so juvenile.
18:56
Speaker 4: I'm listening to you, my God.
18:57
Speaker 7: Do you believe in God?
19:01
Speaker 4: Do you even believe in God? In the concept of
19:05
Speaker 4: God or in what? What do you mean by that?
19:08
Speaker 10: I know what your answer is. But what you are
19:14
Speaker 10: trying to.
19:17
Speaker 7: I think it's wrong for a girl to join a
19:20
Speaker 7: religion with a rolled-up cardboard hat.
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Speaker 2: All right, hold on, hold on, hold on, ladies.
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Speaker 5: 1-800-449-8686.
19:26
Speaker 3: We'll be right back with Joan and Bobby.
19:30
Speaker 2: Phil Henry Show. The Phil Henry Show is back.
19:34
Speaker 4: 1-800-449-8686.
19:34
Speaker 2: Bobby and Steve.
19:37
Speaker 3: Dooley join me, and I'm going to go back to
19:38
Speaker 3: a caller that's holding on. I just wanted to make
19:40
Speaker 3: a point, and I wanted to ask this question. Are
19:42
Speaker 3: you a Catholic basher? Do you hate Catholics?
19:44
Speaker 4: Bill, I won't even dignify that with a response.
19:47
Speaker 2: Well, the question's been asked.
19:49
Speaker 4: I won't dignify it with a response. Some of my
19:52
Speaker 4: very best friends are Catholic. I have nothing against the
19:55
Speaker 4: Catholic faith. I think it is very cruel for the
20:00
Speaker 4: man who is in charge of all the Catholics to
20:05
Speaker 4: get up in the morning... roll up some cardboard and
20:08
Speaker 4: put it on his head and look at the people,
20:10
Speaker 4: I don't know who he has there, bishops and cardinals
20:14
Speaker 4: and say, get me, and then go out there as
20:17
Speaker 4: if he's supposed to be taken seriously. I think it's really.
20:20
Speaker 2: The Pope's wearing that hat is a gag.
20:21
Speaker 4: Oh, I hardly think it's serious. And when you have
20:25
Speaker 4: a young girl who is very conscious of every pimple
20:30
Speaker 4: and every zit, joining a religion where the Pope's hat
20:36
Speaker 4: sits on his head Like a large pustule zit.
20:40
Speaker 2: Oh, come on, will you?
20:41
Speaker 5: That's true.
20:43
Speaker 4: And I'm a mother, and I think I know young people.
20:47
Speaker 4: I'm very now, I'm very with it. A lot of
20:49
Speaker 4: the young people like coming over here because I know
20:51
Speaker 4: all the current groups that they listen to on the radio.
20:58
Speaker 2: That's fine. I just wanted to clarify the Catholic bastion. Joan? Joan?
21:04
Speaker 2: Joan's not there. All right. Go ahead, ma'am, with your comments.
21:08
Speaker 10: Okay.
21:09
Speaker 7: Look, we're all entitled. We are all entitled.
21:13
Speaker 10: Could you stop that again?
21:15
Speaker 7: You are so juvenile.
21:16
Speaker 4: Well, you are really Hitler, aren't you?
21:18
Speaker 10: I can understand why the kids want to come over,
21:20
Speaker 10: because you know all the hot fans. That is going
21:23
Speaker 10: to make you a good mother.
21:25
Speaker 4: Do you know who Creed is?
21:27
Speaker 10: I want you to know something. The Pope is not
21:30
Speaker 10: the man that's in charge of Catholics. The Pope is
21:34
Speaker 10: the living symbol of Christ. And that's what Catholics believe.
21:38
Speaker 4: Well, how dare you wear a stupid hat? You are
21:40
Speaker 4: definitely a bigot.
21:42
Speaker 8: A bigot.
21:43
Speaker 10: For you to say, some of my best friends are Catholics,
21:48
Speaker 10: right then and there.
21:49
Speaker 4: You have just.
21:52
Speaker 4: Well, look, let me ask you this.
21:54
Speaker 7: You are definitely.
21:56
Speaker 10: Not even worth talking anymore to.
21:58
Speaker 4: You know, Joe, when I saw Jesus on the cross,
22:00
Speaker 4: I didn't see him wearing a robe. That's all you're doing.
22:04
Speaker 4: That's all you're doing. You won't give me a chance.
22:06
Speaker 4: You know why? I'm soaking.
22:08
Speaker 10: Do you know who Korn is?
22:10
Speaker 4: Do you know who Korn is? No, you don't. Word up.
22:12
Speaker 10: Well, then why does he do that?
22:13
Speaker 4: All right. No, you isn't.
22:33
Speaker 10: The CCB training will wisen her up to somebody like you.
22:38
Speaker 4: I didn't see.
22:39
Speaker 7: Jesus hanging off of a cross wearing a rolled-up cardboard
22:42
Speaker 7: on his head.
22:43
Speaker 4: You are definitely somebody who has a lot of problems.
22:45
Speaker 4: And I think it marks Jesus. All right, look, look, ladies,
22:49
Speaker 4: I've got to intercede.
22:49
Speaker 2: I've got to jump in here for a minute because
22:51
Speaker 2: I can't really hear what anybody's saying.
22:52
Speaker 4: Phil, I just wanted to say, if she says that
22:55
Speaker 4: Jesus is the one.
22:55
Speaker 10: You know, there is splashing in my ear.
22:58
Speaker 2: The splashing is very distracting, Ms.
23:00
Speaker 10: Dooley.
23:01
Speaker 4: I apologize for that. But I think to say that
23:04
Speaker 4: the Pope is Jesus, I didn't see Jesus rolling up
23:07
Speaker 4: cardboard and sticking it on his head before they nailed
23:09
Speaker 4: him up. Did you?
23:10
Speaker 9: No.
23:12
Speaker 10: That is the most ludicrous thing that.
23:14
Speaker 7: Oh, my God.
23:15
Speaker 10: You're the one... You are not even an intelligent woman.
23:20
Speaker 4: How dare you say.
23:23
Speaker 10: How dare you say.
23:25
Speaker 7: How dare you say millions of Catholics by saying that
23:29
Speaker 7: the person that we look to as the living Christ.
23:33
Speaker 6: Is someone that's a pimple, a pustule?
23:36
Speaker 4: No, I said the hat was.
23:38
Speaker 5: Oh, my God.
23:39
Speaker 4: She doesn't even listen. She doesn't listen. I said the
23:41
Speaker 4: hat was, not him. Take it easy, Joan.
23:43
Speaker 7: Take it easy.
23:46
Speaker 5: I'm sorry.
23:46
Speaker 4: I think getting older, I think it's affecting your memory
23:49
Speaker 4: because I didn't... All right, look it.
23:51
Speaker 7: No, no, no.
23:52
Speaker 4: Jesus didn't shake like a bowl of jello like the
23:55
Speaker 4: Pope does every time he's on TV.
23:57
Speaker 10: Now, you're going to tell me that that's not Catholic bashing?
24:01
Speaker 4: It certainly is not.
24:02
Speaker 7: That this woman is not a bigot?
24:04
Speaker 10: That this woman is not a vicious, vile individual?
24:08
Speaker 4: My God, you'd think you were black the way you're
24:09
Speaker 4: going on. I'm talking about.
24:12
Speaker 10: Right then and there.
24:13
Speaker 4: You know, Joan.
24:13
Speaker 7: Right then and there.
24:14
Speaker 4: I know you'd love to be African American, but you're not.
24:16
Speaker 4: You're white and you're just regular like everyone else.
24:19
Speaker 6: You've just.
24:20
Speaker 10: You've confirmed everything that I thought about you.
24:22
Speaker 4: Everything.
24:24
Speaker 10: You've confirmed it.
24:25
Speaker 4: Because I made fun of a man's hat. You're going
24:27
Speaker 4: on and on and on.
24:28
Speaker 9: No.
24:28
Speaker 10: What you just said.
24:29
Speaker 4: You are really small.
24:31
Speaker 10: You are a bigot.
24:33
Speaker 2: Okay, I think we've gone as far as we can here.
24:36
Speaker 4: No, I'm going to be heard.
24:38
Speaker 9: Ms.
24:38
Speaker 2: Dooley, we've gone as far.
24:39
Speaker 8: As we can.
24:40
Speaker 9: I think we've heard enough of you.
24:41
Speaker 4: I'm going to be heard. I'm the mother of three boys,
24:44
Speaker 4: and the kids know me. And this woman doesn't even
24:47
Speaker 4: know who Korn is, do you? Who's Korn?
24:49
Speaker 10: I can just say that you are an embarrassment to womanhood,
24:54
Speaker 10: to motherhood.
24:55
Speaker 4: Well, then the Pope should stop rolling up cardboard, sticking
24:58
Speaker 4: it on his head and going, Hi, I'm Jesus. How
25:01
Speaker 4: insulting is that?
25:03
Speaker 2: He doesn't say, hi, I'm Jesus. He's a humble man.
25:06
Speaker 2: He is a humble.
25:09
Speaker 4: Going out with a big cardboard hat. That's someone who
25:13
Speaker 4: is the... Next thing you know, it's a lampshade. Have
25:16
Speaker 4: you thought about that?
25:17
Speaker 5: No.
25:19
Speaker 2: All right, Joan.
25:20
Speaker 10: It doesn't even make sense.
25:22
Speaker 3: All right, Joan, thank you for your call.
25:25
Speaker 4: 1-800-449-86... Bill, you can't tell me that that hat doesn't
25:27
Speaker 4: look like a table sitting at the Velvet Turtle. I mean,
25:31
Speaker 4: I have been.
25:31
Speaker 2: Okay, look it.
25:34
Speaker 3: The point of your thing is this girl, and I
25:37
Speaker 3: follow you that far, kids don't want to be ridiculed.
25:40
Speaker 3: I don't think anyone becomes a Catholic thinking about the
25:44
Speaker 3: hat the Pope wears.
25:45
Speaker 4: Well, I think they should.
25:46
Speaker 3: Well, look, my wife's a long-time Catholic, very devout Catholic.
25:50
Speaker 3: I don't think it's bugging her. Does she have Protestant friends?
25:55
Speaker 2: Protestant friends?
25:55
Speaker 7: Yes.
25:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of them.
25:58
Speaker 4: I can tell you that behind her back, they go, oh,
26:00
Speaker 4: my God, get her. With that guy with the hat.
26:05
Speaker 2: All right, let me go over here to Susan on
26:07
Speaker 2: the Phil Henry Show. Susan, go ahead.
26:09
Speaker 8: Hey, Phil.
26:09
Speaker 2: Hi.
26:10
Speaker 9: First time caller.
26:11
Speaker 4: Love your show.
26:11
Speaker 2: Thank you, ma'am.
26:12
Speaker 9: When I heard the water in the background and after
26:15
Speaker 9: I heard her conversation, I don't even know what your
26:16
Speaker 9: name is. I was thinking you ought to drown yourself
26:19
Speaker 9: for the views that you've had.
26:20
Speaker 4: Listen to the violence of your callers. Listen to the violence.
26:23
Speaker 9: How shallow are you?
26:24
Speaker 4: I'm not shallow. You don't talk about the.
26:26
Speaker 9: Kind of hat he wears. What do you think about
26:28
Speaker 9: Jews who wear yarmulkes?
26:29
Speaker 4: I think that's fine.
26:30
Speaker 7: We're used to it.
26:30
Speaker 4: We're used to it.
26:31
Speaker 7: There are citizens.
26:32
Speaker 9: Who have rings and hair coming down.
26:34
Speaker 4: There's nothing wrong with it.
26:35
Speaker 9: There's nothing wrong with it.
26:36
Speaker 4: Do you judge.
26:37
Speaker 9: Somebody by what they're wearing?
26:38
Speaker 4: No. If you know anything about young people, young people
26:45
Speaker 4: are very mindful of how they look, especially a young
26:49
Speaker 4: teenage girl. who is going to go out into the world,
26:53
Speaker 4: and she's going to... Phil, can you turn her down
26:56
Speaker 4: so I can say what I want to say?
26:57
Speaker 6: You know something?
26:58
Speaker 2: You are so ignorant. I can't turn anybody down.
26:59
Speaker 6: Did you go to a drama school?
27:00
Speaker 4: Did you go to school at all?
27:02
Speaker 9: That you're judging a young girl who is seeking God?
27:04
Speaker 7: Susan, I don't mind if you wear a yarmulke. The
27:07
Speaker 7: leader is wearing?
27:08
Speaker 4: Who cares? Can I say something, Phil?
27:09
Speaker 2: Go ahead.
27:10
Speaker 4: I don't mind, Susan, if you wear your yarmulke. That's fine.
27:13
Speaker 4: I'm talking about.
27:14
Speaker 7: Oh, thank you.
27:15
Speaker 9: I'm so glad that I have your permission. And you
27:18
Speaker 9: know something?
27:18
Speaker 7: How did you know she was Jewish?
27:21
Speaker 9: You know, how wonderful of you to just be talking
27:25
Speaker 9: behind people's backs going, quick, quick, quick, quick, quick. Aren't
27:28
Speaker 9: you a wonderful, religious, kind woman? Honey, your kids ought
27:34
Speaker 9: to be taken away from you.
27:35
Speaker 7: Did you hear me? Oh, well, that's, I'm sure you think,
27:40
Speaker 7: I'm sure you think that's such a, I'm sure you
27:43
Speaker 7: really think.
27:44
Speaker 4: You got a big shot in with that one, Susan.
27:47
Speaker 4: You know, you've got to get up pretty early to
27:48
Speaker 4: try to shock me.
27:50
Speaker 9: What grade did you graduate from?
27:53
Speaker 4: You know, Susan, with a voice like yours, the china
27:55
Speaker 4: is shaking in my cabinet. Can you back it off
27:58
Speaker 4: a little bit? Oh, my God. Tell me something.
28:00
Speaker 6: What do you do?
28:01
Speaker 9: You know what I do?
28:03
Speaker 10: I raise three children.
28:04
Speaker 4: Did you hear that? Did you hear her use the
28:05
Speaker 4: S word? Did you hear?
28:07
Speaker 2: I heard it all and we dumped it. Let me
28:10
Speaker 2: go over to Deedee. Deedee, go ahead. You're on the
28:12
Speaker 2: Phil Henry Show.
28:13
Speaker 10: Hi, this is Deedee.
28:14
Speaker 6: I'm calling from Miami.
28:15
Speaker 2: Hi, Deedee.
28:16
Speaker 6: The only thing that this young lady should be embarrassed.
28:22
Speaker 4: Of is her friend's mother.
28:25
Speaker 6: She is definitely a bigot. You should be teaching kids tolerance,
28:30
Speaker 6: not intolerance.
28:31
Speaker 4: I do.
28:32
Speaker 6: Her comments are disallowing most all religions. Where do you
28:37
Speaker 6: go with the Greek Orthodox?
28:39
Speaker 2: Could you get out of the tub, please, Ms.
28:41
Speaker 5: Dooley?
28:41
Speaker 6: What about the Muslims? What about the Muslims with their headdress?
28:45
Speaker 6: What about African religions with feathers? What is going on?
28:50
Speaker 6: You're supposed to be basing.
28:52
Speaker 2: The decisions of the religions. Let's break this out. To
28:55
Speaker 2: be fair, Ms. Dooley hasn't said anything about Muslims or Jews.
28:59
Speaker 4: I think the Jews look fine in their hats. She's
29:00
Speaker 4: talking about hot. No, I'm talking about the Pope's hat,
29:05
Speaker 4: which I think.
29:05
Speaker 6: The Pope's hat, a Greek Orthodox hat, any hat. What
29:09
Speaker 6: about the shaking? What, are you supposed to discount people
29:13
Speaker 6: who have Alzheimer's and who have different disease?
29:17
Speaker 5: What?
29:17
Speaker 6: Because.
29:18
Speaker 4: What is she talking about? I never said anything about that.
29:19
Speaker 6: You are completely intolerant?
29:20
Speaker 10: No, I didn't say that.
29:21
Speaker 6: This is a comment that you told the previous lady.
29:23
Speaker 4: What did I say about shaking?
29:24
Speaker 6: You cannot base that young.
29:26
Speaker 8: Lady to be.
29:31
Speaker 7: That's what you said.
29:32
Speaker 6: The post goes on television and he's shaking.
29:35
Speaker 2: That's right. You did say that. You did say that.
29:38
Speaker 4: No, I didn't.
29:38
Speaker 2: Yes, you did.
29:39
Speaker 7: And that you're ruling out people who have Alzheimer's, who
29:43
Speaker 7: have other nervous diseases, that are not their fault.
29:47
Speaker 6: We're supposed to not be tolerant.
29:50
Speaker 7: Dee Dee, I'm worried.
29:51
Speaker 4: I'm simply worried that when the Pope is shaking like that,
29:54
Speaker 4: the hat's going to slip down his forehead.
29:56
Speaker 7: The embarrassment of your three boys.
29:58
Speaker 6: With your comments of intolerance. This is 2004. Can I
30:03
Speaker 6: ask a question, ma'am?
30:04
Speaker 4: Because you may be Catholic. Why doesn't he wear something
30:08
Speaker 4: comfortable like a Yankees cap or a beanie or something
30:11
Speaker 4: like that?
30:11
Speaker 6: Why does everyone have to conform and be the same?
30:15
Speaker 6: This is not talking about wholesome bread here.
30:18
Speaker 4: It's not right.
30:18
Speaker 6: We have to celebrate individuality.
30:20
Speaker 2: I want to ask you a question.
30:22
Speaker 6: Children should be encouraged to be themselves and to stand
30:25
Speaker 6: up for their being.
30:26
Speaker 4: A young lady doesn't want to go out.
30:27
Speaker 6: Not to conform to what someone else wants.
30:30
Speaker 4: You'd let your daughter go out with a big zit
30:31
Speaker 4: on her nose. Good for you. What a mother.
30:34
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
30:35
Speaker 6: Have you heard of Clearasil?
30:38
Speaker 4: When it doesn't clear the zit up right then and there,
30:41
Speaker 4: you have to use it.
30:41
Speaker 6: Do you have other concerns in life except zit and hot?
30:48
Speaker 4: Can I say something?
30:48
Speaker 2: No, wait a minute. I want to say something. Do
30:50
Speaker 2: you honestly expect the Pope to go out into a
30:53
Speaker 2: formal ceremony wearing a New York Yankees baseball cap?
30:57
Speaker 4: I think it's more relatable. I honestly do.
31:00
Speaker 2: In other words, he's wearing his full gowns.
31:03
Speaker 4: I don't have anything wrong with the gowns.
31:05
Speaker 3: So he's wearing a full vestment with a Yankee hat.
31:08
Speaker 4: So, in other words, that's wrong.
31:11
Speaker 2: Oh, boy.
31:13
Speaker 4: If the Pope had a really sharp-looking derby, is the
31:17
Speaker 4: collar there? Is the collar there?
31:19
Speaker 6: I'm here.
31:20
Speaker 4: What about a derby hat?
31:21
Speaker 6: Why does he have to conform to anything? Why can't
31:24
Speaker 6: you be respectful? of other people's styles and fashions. Have
31:28
Speaker 6: you ever traveled outside of your gated community?
31:32
Speaker 4: Apparently not. We have everything we need here.
31:34
Speaker 6: Because there is no room for anyone else and for
31:37
Speaker 6: any other styles.
31:38
Speaker 4: Can I ask you something? What about a nice, sharp-looking
31:40
Speaker 4: straw hat with a bed?
31:42
Speaker 2: Are you nuts? A straw hat?
31:45
Speaker 8: Have you been drinking?
31:46
Speaker 4: I most certainly have not. I'm putting boys to bed
31:49
Speaker 4: tonight to go to school.
31:51
Speaker 7: Those poor boys, I hope no one in their school
31:53
Speaker 7: has looked at them because it's really embarrassing to them.
31:57
Speaker 4: I want to be clear. You think I've been drinking
31:59
Speaker 4: because I suggest that the Pope wear a sensible derby
32:02
Speaker 4: instead of.
32:03
Speaker 6: You're such an illogical person, and you... All right, maybe
32:07
Speaker 6: I don't know.
32:07
Speaker 4: I'm getting back in the tub.
32:09
Speaker 6: Kids should be taught. Kids have to be taught tolerance,
32:12
Speaker 6: not intolerance.
32:16
Speaker 2: Oh, well, she's a child, too, because now she's in
32:18
Speaker 2: her freaking tub.
32:20
Speaker 6: This is beyond belief.
32:21
Speaker 2: Well, look, I mean, the idea that somebody would.
32:25
Speaker 3: She can't be a Catholic, obviously, if she thinks the
32:28
Speaker 3: Pope should go out wearing a derby instead of rolled-up cardboard.
32:31
Speaker 4: I never said that.
32:33
Speaker 2: Yes, you did. I heard you say it. Thank you
32:35
Speaker 2: very much, Deedee.
32:36
Speaker 6: And you have no manners whatsoever.
32:39
Speaker 4: What about one of those cowboy hats?
32:40
Speaker 6: Yes, splashing them in your freaking tub.
32:45
Speaker 4: I'm soaking.
32:47
Speaker 7: I'm soaking in bath beads.
32:50
Speaker 9: Yes.
32:50
Speaker 2: Thank you, Deedee, for your call.
32:52
Speaker 9: Ms.
32:52
Speaker 2: Deedee, I would simply say, would you please stop that?
32:55
Speaker 4: I'm soaking in bath beads.
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Speaker 5: What about the derby hat idea, Mr. Henry?
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Speaker 2: Asinine.
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Speaker 5: Thank you.
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Speaker 2: All right, so in other words, the Pope will go
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Speaker 2: out wearing a derby. All right, that's great.
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