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6.20.26 Seth Grossman on WPGTalkRadio.com. Democrat candidate attacks Liberty and Prosperity. Why four Muslim nations wanted us to fight Iran. · Seth Grossman – Liberty and Prosperity

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  - Without further ado, we bring in the one
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  - and only Seth Grossman who, I wanna borrow
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  - some of his frequent flyer miles
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  - someday.
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  - He's a world traveler.
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  - Seth, good morning.
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  - Good morning. Yes. I I will be traveling
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  - in the next couple weeks, but the the
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  - liberty and prosperity message will go out.
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  - Of course, we meet every Saturday morning from
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  - 09:30 to 10:30 at Sal's Coal Fired Pizza
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  - in Somers Point.
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  - Our
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  - website is libertyandprosperity.com,
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  - posted on that website. We also send out
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  - contact us at info,info,@libertyandprosperity.com,
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  - and we'll put you on a list. And,
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  - of course, my latest personal project is that
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  - book,
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  - 1676
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  - project, how New Jersey shaped America.
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  - And, you, of course, you can pick up
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  - the book for $20 at our,
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  - breakfast meetings, but it's also popping up in
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  - stores around the county.
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  - You can get it at the rare bird
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  - in Summers Point that, finds in Margate at
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  - Georgia's in Ocean City.
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  - It will soon be at the Beechwood Trading
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  - in historic Smithville.
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  - And, after our meeting this morning at 09:30,
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  - I'll be doing a book signing at the
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  - Cheetah Bagel Cafe
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  - in Atlantic City on Arctic Avenue, same block
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  - as the,
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  - as the White House sub shop.
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  - So that book is important because almost every
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  - political issue,
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  - we're dealing with today, including,
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  - stuff like,
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  - the terrorism by Iran,
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  - was going on in 1676,
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  - and it's interesting to see how Americans dealt
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  - with it at that time.
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  - Before I talk about,
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  - the war in Iran,
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  - it looks like I have become
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  - a political issue in Atlanta County. And I
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  - don't know if you've seen it or not,
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  - but,
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  - the Democrats
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  - are
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  - running a candidate named Lisa Bender
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  - against Joe Jurallo
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  - for a three year term as county clerk.
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  - And, you know, just as a lawyer who
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  - deals with recording documents at the county courthouse,
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  - I could tell you personally that Joe Jurado
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  - is probably the most efficient,
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  - and,
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  - you know, prompt clerk,
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  - in recording deeds or documents or anything you
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  - have to do. I mean, there was a
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  - time when the the county clerk clerk's office,
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  - It would take you two or three months
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  - to to get a document filed, and that
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  - we wreak wreak havoc with people trying to
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  - do business.
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  - But right now, everything is filed and,
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  - and done the way it should be done
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  - within a couple days.
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  - So, you know, if you can't run against
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  - somebody based on the job they're doing,
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  - what what what will the campaign issue be?
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  - Well, according to,
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  - Joe Dorella's opponent, the Democratic opponent, Seth Grossman
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  - is the big issue.
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  - She posted something on her website that said
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  - Seth Grossman,
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  - leader of liberty and prosperity,
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  - Atlanta County Republican candidate for congress in 2018,
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  - an ally of, Joe Jurado
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  - made a post
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  - claiming that many vote by mail voters
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  - are uninformed,
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  - intoxicated,
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  - dependent on government assistance,
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  - and manipulated into voting.
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  - And then she says,
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  - it's worth noting
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  - that Atlanta County Joe Jurado, get this, he
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  - has appeared
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  - and spoken before
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  - liberty and prosperity meetings and with Seth Grossman,
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  - and they have shared political circles and public
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  - events for years.
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  - So, basically, she's saying,
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  - don't vote for Joe Giraldo because he talks
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  - to Seth Roseman and comes to liberty and
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  - prosperity meetings.
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  - That is so ridiculous.
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  - That is I mean, that's that's the most
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  - ridiculous
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  - thing I have ever heard in my life.
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  - Joe Juralo
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  - is one of the finest individuals, first of
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  - all, I know.
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  - Secondly, you are right, and people don't know
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  - this. He's in his office. I I joke
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  - with him every time he comes on the
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  - show. I heard you were in late the
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  - other day. You're going in the quarter to
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  - seven.
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  - He's in there at 06:30,
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  - and he's all over the place. So, I
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  - mean,
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  - there is nobody better
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  - than Joe Giraldo.
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  - And and, you know,
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  - leave it to the Democrats to make an
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  - issue out of something that isn't an issue.
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  - Well, you you see what they're doing. Yeah.
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  - Yeah. They they wanna say, well, Seth Grossman
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  - is radical and extreme.
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  - And and so they they're really
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  - trying to goad Joe into saying, oh, Seth
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  - Grossman. I never heard of him. I I
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  - don't support these things. But I just wanna
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  - make it clear,
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  - what I've been saying for years
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  - about these,
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  - mail in ballots that are collected over a
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  - forty five day period
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  - instead of one election day.
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  - And I actually started talking about this back
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  - in 2020
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  - when when Trump lost that election,
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  - and people were saying stolen election and stolen
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  - ballots.
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  - I was pointing out that,
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  - no.
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  - All of the ballots, or at least most
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  - of them, were genuine,
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  - but they were
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  - harvested over a forty five year period or
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  - forty five day period,
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  - from people who were either, you know, drunk
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  - or homeless or all these things.
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  - And, yeah, there was a lot of,
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  - fraud going on, but you couldn't prove the
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  - fraud because when it's by mail, you don't
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  - know who the people are or where they
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  - are. You just know that they are real
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  - legal names. So I've been,
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  - proposing for years
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  - that the only way to fix this is
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  - to go back to one in person election
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  - day,
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  - where everybody shows no ID. And I just
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  - wanna, make a list of the problems with
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  - mail in voting.
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  - Number one,
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  - mail in voting encourages fraud.
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  - I know as a lawyer
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  - many, many times that people who are willing
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  - to sign false papers or lie in an
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  - affidavit
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  - in a lawyer's office
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  - are not willing to say that same lie
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  - in person in front of a judge.
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  - We know for a fact that with welfare
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  - and unemployment claims,
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  - you had a lot less fraud when people
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  - had to go in person
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  - and pick up the, you know, their check
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  - and swear that they were looking for work
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  - or swear that everything on their form was
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  - true.
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  - But when people just quietly lie on a
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  - piece of paper, they're more willing to do
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  - it. It's human nature.
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  - Number two,
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  - in person voting prevents electioneering
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  - within 200 feet of a polling
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  - place. In my my book, that 1676
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  - project,
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  - one of the greatest reforms
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  - that the founders of New Jersey started in
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  - 1676
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  - was the idea of a secret ballot
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  - where,
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  - you you every every voter had to appear
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  - in person and put his or her ballot
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  - into a ballot box so that you knew
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  - it was genuine. You knew the person was
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  - real, and we've had that system for three
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  - hundred and fifty years.
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  - Now,
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  - and of course, there's no electioneering within 200
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  - feet of the polling place. But when you
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  - have mail in ballots,
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  - every kitchen table and living room becomes a
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  - polling place. And we've all seen,
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  - you know, bullying, intimidation,
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  - undue influence, all sorts sorts of things. You
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  - know, you you have grandma at the kitchen
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  - table. Oh, grandma, we're we're going for this
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  - one. You know, maybe grandma would do something
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  - else if,
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  - she were in a polling place and she
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  - closes the curtain and does it in person.
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  - So we we see that.
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  - And then we also know that,
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  - you know, do you think it's a good
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  - idea for someone to vote,
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  - when they're drunk or under the influence of
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  - drugs?
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  - Well, if it's if it's not safe to
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  - to drive a car,
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  - when you're drunk or under the influence
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  - it should it you know, it should it
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  - be disqualified from,
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  - you know, deciding who's gonna run our lives
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  - for the next three or four years?
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  - When you have in person voting, you observe
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  - if someone walks in there, if they're capable
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  - of,
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  - voting.
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  - You don't have that with mail in ballots.
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  - And, of course, elections should not just be
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  - fair. They have to appear to be fair.
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  - So when suddenly you have an election,
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  - an election night, you know, one person is
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  - up by a a few thousand votes.
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  - And then you have three weeks of counting
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  - ballots, and it turns out that 95%
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  - of all the last minute ballots
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  - go for one particular candidate.
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  - You know something's not right. And the only
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  - way to fix that is to have one
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  - in person election day,
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  - and that's what we have to do. So,
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  - I'm not ashamed of what I said about
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  - in person
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  - voting with an ID is is a more
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  - reliable way to elect people than this forty
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  - five day,
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  - you know, ballot paper ballot harvest season.
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  - But if the Democrats want to,
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  - say, well, well, any Republican who agrees with
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  - that,
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  - should should be disqualified or is a bigot
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  - or a racist, you know, I think,
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  - this is actually an opportunity for Joe Torrallo
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  - to say how
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  - as county clerk, he knows it would be
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  - less expensive,
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  - less complicated, more honest
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  - if everybody votes in person on one day.
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  - Just like the save act that's in congress
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  - right now, we'd be better off, doing that
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  - than what we have now. And, of course,
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  - if anybody's genuinely
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  - handicapped or sick or, you know, can't come
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  - to the polls, we we for years, we
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  - had absentee ballots with a doctor's note. And
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  - there's no way we we there's no reason
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  - not to go back to that.
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  - I agree with you. I mean, this this
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  - whole thing of
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  - how many days they vote ahead of time,
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  - It's it's ripe for fraud. You're absolutely right.
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  - It is ripe for fraud.
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  - And So so I think I agree. Yeah.
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  - I agree. Definitely agree.
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  - So so the question is, are the Republicans
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  - going to back away and say, oh, no.
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  - We we we we we don't have anything
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  - to do with liberty and prosperity. But I
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  - think if they lean into it, they'll get
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  - a lot of support. And, it's time for
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  - Republicans to really,
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  - promote basic principles that are gonna make the
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  - country better. So having talked about that, I
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  - I don't have, time to to talk much
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  - about,
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  - the war in Iran, except I do wanna
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  - talk about,
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  - the the coverage that we're getting from The
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  - Middle East. There are two things, to bring
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  - up. Number one,
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  - the fact that the, when you talk about,
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  - you know, Israel,
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  - the people who are you know, Israel basically
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  - has the same enemies
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  - that The United States has. Yeah. You have,
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  - Islamists who wanna take over the whole world
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  - for Islam,
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  - and you have leftist, communist, socialist, whatever label
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  - they they feel is convenient at the time.
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  - They also wanna take over the world. And
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  - when they see a normal country like Israel
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  - or The United
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  - States, they will try to claim that because
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  - that normal country isn't perfect,
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  - it's evil.
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  - So, we we see in Israel, well, you
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  - know, Israel did this wrong. Israel did that
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  - wrong.
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  - Yeah. In In in every country, there are
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  - people who do you know, they make mistakes.
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  - They do stupid things. They do careless things.
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  - But to say a country
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  - is,
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  - bad because you have a handful of people
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  - who do that,
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  - that's exactly what they did to The United
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  - States.
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  - You know, you have to judge the overall
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  - country. And, also, when you put the microscope
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  - on one country
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  - and completely ignore
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  - what, you know, much worse countries are doing,
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  - you get a distorted view of things.
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  - And we actually see that with, you know,
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  - in The United States, when they said,
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  - oh, you know, America is an evil country,
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  - because this happened or that happened. And what
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  - you'll notice is even if nothing bad happened
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  - this week, they'll say, well, you did something
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  - bad two weeks ago. Oh, you did something
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  - bad a hundred years ago.
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  - And that whole Juneteenth holiday
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  - that we had yesterday,
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  - is is a re ridiculous example of that.
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  - I mean, yes.
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  - A hundred and fifty years ago or two
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  - hundred years ago, we had slavery in America,
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  - but then we had 310,000
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  - white guys got killed to end slavery.
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  - And you and I growing up in the
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  - fifties
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  - know, you know, what a wonderful place it
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  - was for everybody Yes. In the fifties and
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  - sixties. Yes. I I mean, we went to
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  - school. Blacks and and whites went to school
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  - together. We worked summer jobs together. We,
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  - played on sports teams together. We, you know,
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  - went into our own businesses. When we, you
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  - know, went out, we didn't even lock lock
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  - the door. We we didn't close the door.
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  - In the summertime, you had a screen door.
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  - You could walk into any neighborhood day or
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  - night.
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  - Was it a perfect society?
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  - Of course not. There were some jerks. There
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  - were some bullies. There were some ignorant people
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  - out there, but you don't condemn a whole
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  - society because of a handful of people.
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  - And if you look at where America was
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  - then,
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  - by trying to say, well, America was bad
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  - because we were not perfect,
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  - it it was the same thing. So we
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  - changed everything,
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  - and we're in a much worse worse situation
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  - now than we were fifty years ago. So
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  - I think we have to remember that.
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  - And and the other thing we have to
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  - remember also, we keep saying, you know, Israel,
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  - and and and America and Iran
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  - as if there's nobody else in the region.
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  - We keep forget forgetting
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  - that,
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  - there are
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  - four major,
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  - countries or movements,
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  - in the Islamic world besides
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  - Iran.
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  - And,
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  - you know, a lot of them,
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  - have a have
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  - a big, role in what's going on.
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  - Now just to give you an idea, I
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  - know it sounds ridiculous to most Americans,
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  - but the Muslims think they are on the
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  - verge of taking over the world.
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  - They think they have the money. They think
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  - they have the oil,
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  - and their biggest weapon
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  - are their babies.
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  - They're saying, you Americans, you Europeans, you only
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  - have one or two kids.
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  - We're having seven, eight, nine, fourteen, 15 kids.
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  - Kids. Now back in the old days, when
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  - we used to have, you know, a a
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  - a, you know, a dozen kids,
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  - most of them would die before adulthood from
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  - war, starvation, plague, all that stuff. But thanks
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  - to the Western world,
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  - with your wonderful
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  - food aid and your medical help and all
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  - these things you do for us, if we
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  - have 12 or 15 kids, they're all gonna
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  - live,
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  - to be adults, and then they're gonna have
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  - 14 or 15 kids. So they say, this
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  - is how we,
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  - took over French Algeria. This is how we
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  - took over Christian Lebanon. This is how we
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  - took over South Africa. This is how we
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  - took over Rhodesia
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  - just by having lots of babies. And,
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  - whenever we we don't have enough food, we
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  - just put a, you know, TV ads saying,
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  - oh, the the horrible conditions. Give us more
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  - money for our kids.
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  - So they're they figured they're taking over the
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  - world, you know, with the demographics.
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  - And now the big issue is once they
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  - do take over the world, in the Islamic
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  - world, the question is who's gonna be running
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  - it? Because they don't believe in nations, like
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  - independent
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  - nations. That's a European thing. That's a Western
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  - thing.
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  - They believe in what's called a caliphate
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  - where one,
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  - caliph or or as they call it, a
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  - caliph
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  - runs the entire Islamic world.
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  - Now for five hundred years, it was Turkey
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  - in the Ottoman Empire.
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  - Before that, it was Arabs.
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  - So right now, you have,
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  - Iran is just one of four,
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  - I guess, countries that is determined to be
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  - running the entire world
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  - once,
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  - the West once Israel's destroyed, The United States
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  - is destroyed, they take over Europe. And that
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  - is Pakistan is one. Turkey is another one.
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  - Saudi Arabia is another one. Iran is number
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  - four. And number five is is a group
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  - called the Muslim Brotherhood
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  - that's sort of headquartered in Qatar.
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  - So you have those five of them. And
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  - what they're all doing, besides trying to take
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  - over the world, they're fighting with each other
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  - as to which one of them would be
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  - running the world once the, the West collapses.
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  - And so you'll notice that, Saudi Arabia is
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  - depending on The United States for support,
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  - and you'll notice that Iran,
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  - or actually,
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  - Saudi Arabia is depending on Republicans like like
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  - the Bush Republicans
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  - for their support
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  - that, you know, the Democrats were leaning towards
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  - Iran. So each of them is looking for
• 16:50
  - allies,
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  - you know, outside the Islamic world to help
• 16:53
  - them take over. So if you just look
• 16:55
  - at it as The United States and Israel
• 16:57
  - against Iran,
• 16:59
  - you're sort of missing the point. There are
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  - those other four players in there, and they're
• 17:04
  - all trying to use us and use the
• 17:07
  - communist,
• 17:08
  - to jockey for position to take over. And,
• 17:10
  - you know, you can't talk about this complicated
• 17:13
  - stuff,
• 17:14
  - you know, in a radio conversation,
• 17:16
  - but there's an excellent book,
• 17:18
  - called,
• 17:19
  - God's Terrorist by Charles Allen.
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  - You know, it takes a couple hours to
• 17:24
  - read, but if you learn some of these
• 17:26
  - details, a lot of stuff that doesn't make
• 17:28
  - a lot of sense right now
• 17:30
  - suddenly makes perfect sense. And and this is
• 17:32
  - what we talked about at our Liberty and
• 17:34
  - Prosperity breakfast.
• 17:36
  - Well,
• 17:38
  - yeah, I I think you're out of time.
• 17:41
  - Yeah. Yeah. I I say I hope I
• 17:42
  - didn't put everyone to sleep on this one.
• 17:44
  - No. No.
• 17:45
  - It it it really is complicated.
• 17:47
  - And and just like a couple of details,
• 17:49
  - you say Pakistan. Well,
• 17:51
  - you know, how could Pakistan be serious? Well,
• 17:54
  - Pakistan is sending
• 17:56
  - millions of immigrants all having
• 17:59
  - five, ten, 15 kids
• 18:01
  - to England, to Germany, to United States. They
• 18:03
  - have a nuclear weapon. And and I'll give
• 18:05
  - you one other thing about Pakistan, why they
• 18:07
  - think they're a major player.
• 18:09
  - All their leaders come from this you know,
• 18:11
  - Pakistan is used to be India,
• 18:14
  - but the Hindus went to one section India.
• 18:16
  - The Muslims went to Pakistan.
• 18:18
  - But there's a school
• 18:20
  - that they say teaches the proper Islam called
• 18:23
  - the Diovan School in in India.
• 18:25
  - And, their students are running, you know, all
• 18:28
  - these countries.
• 18:29
  - Guess what the the, the Urdu word for
• 18:32
  - students
• 18:33
  - of that Diovan,
• 18:35
  - university is where they train all these people.
• 18:38
  - I I have no I have no idea.
• 18:40
  - It's called Taliban.
• 18:42
  - The the word for student is Taliban, and
• 18:44
  - that gives you an idea that that Pakistan
• 18:46
  - has a lot more influence,
• 18:48
  - than we think. But, anyway,
• 18:50
  - a lot to discuss and, enjoy the weekend,
• 18:53
  - and we'll talk, God willing, next week. Okay.
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  - Seth Grossman, Liberty and Prosperity. The website libertyandprosperity.com.