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Fair Territory: Braves loading up, Freddy Peralta market, Is Boras waiting on Kyle Tucker? · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to the Thursday edition, oh, the Friday edition
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Speaker 1: of Fair Territory, a special post winter Meetings edition. I'm
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Speaker 1: Ken Rosenthal here with Alana Rizzo. We already have some
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Speaker 1: news today, the Blue Jays announcing a five year extension
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Speaker 1: for team president Mark Shapiro. If you recall, both Shapiro
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Speaker 1: and his general manager Ross Atkins were thought to be
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Speaker 1: on the hot seat going into this season. When you
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Speaker 1: get to the World Series and come within through outs
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Speaker 1: of winning it, it kind of helps cool off the
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Speaker 1: hot seat. So we've got a ton to talk about.
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Speaker 1: Good to see you again. Let's get to it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great to see you as well on this Friday.
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Speaker 2: Great job, Ken. Of course, over the course of the
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Speaker 2: Winter Meetings and we have some more things to talk about,
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Speaker 2: and we start in Atlanta, Ken.
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Speaker 1: We do. And the Braves have been active in recent
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Speaker 1: days and they've had quite an interesting offseason so far.
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Speaker 1: What we've seen from them is first the signing of
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Speaker 1: Russ Rachel Iglesias to be their closer. That was one year,
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Speaker 1: sixteen million. Then they acquired Mauricio Dubon for Nick Allen,
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Speaker 1: and that was a guy that they feel can play shortstop.
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Speaker 1: If they cannot get a better shortstop, and then over
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Speaker 1: the last two days Mike Yastremsky outfielder and Robert Suarez
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Speaker 1: to be their setup man in front of Aglesias. Now
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Speaker 1: one thing to note here, Suarez, Iglesias and Yastremsky all
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Speaker 1: thirty five or over on opening day, older players, but
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Speaker 1: experienced players, players who should make the Braves better. Certainly,
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Speaker 1: the back of the bullpen now with Suarez and Iglesias
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Speaker 1: is really formidable. They still want to do shortstop if
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Speaker 1: they can get better, if they can get Hashan Kim,
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Speaker 1: maybe somebody else that we're not thinking of, and they
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Speaker 1: would probably want to add a starting pitcher as well.
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Speaker 1: But the Braves right now looking good.
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Speaker 2: And I tell you what can They also have a
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Speaker 2: new manager, of course, Brian Snicker still with the organization,
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Speaker 2: a longtime baseballman, but another longtime baseball man managing again,
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Speaker 2: Walt Weiss. What do you make of that?
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Speaker 1: I like it. And Walt Weiss is one of these
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Speaker 1: guys that I thought deserved a second chance. He was
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Speaker 1: in Colorado all those years. Of course, we all know
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Speaker 1: how difficult it is to win in Colorado because of
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Speaker 1: the ballpark and because of the way. Frankly, the team
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Speaker 1: has been run over the past I don't know, decade
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Speaker 1: or so under Dick Montfort, so they seem to be
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Speaker 1: taking a step forward now with Deeperdesta and Josh Burns
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Speaker 1: coming in. And Walt Weiss gets his second chance with Atlanta,
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Speaker 1: an organization where he had been the bench coach before,
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Speaker 1: and he seems to be a guy to me that
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Speaker 1: is well suited for that team. Reminds me a little
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Speaker 1: bit of Rob Thompson, just kind of low key but
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Speaker 1: yet extremely wise in a baseball sense.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Rob Thompson of course getting an extension with the Philadelphia
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Speaker 2: Phillies as well, and Walker Montford already making some good
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Speaker 2: moves for the Colorado Rockies. Let's talk about the next
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Speaker 2: domino to fall, Ken, if you will, in this free
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Speaker 2: agency or off season time period. I thought it was
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Speaker 2: going to be Kyle Schwarber, the big news. It seems like, though,
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Speaker 2: Scott Boris is perhaps leaking its Kyle Tucker as the
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Speaker 2: domino that needs to fall before more stuff happens.
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Speaker 1: Right. Brendan Cuddy of The Athletic wrote a story two
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Speaker 1: days ago basically saying that Boris might want to wait
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Speaker 1: for Tucker to sign. He doesn't represent Tucker Excel does,
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Speaker 1: but he might want to wait for Tucker to go
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Speaker 1: before he gets to Bellinger. Now it's interesting because if
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Speaker 1: you look at what happened this week, Alana Kyle Schwarber
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Speaker 1: signs for one hundred and fifty million with the Philadelphia Phillies.
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Speaker 1: The next day, Scott Boris with Pete Alonzo signs to
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Speaker 1: the Baltimore Oriols one hundred and fifty five million. Basically,
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Speaker 1: Boris waited for Schwarber and then did Alonzo, and it seems,
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Speaker 1: according to Brendan's reporting, that he would like to do
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Speaker 1: the same thing here because it will enhance perhaps the
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Speaker 1: price he gets for Bellinger. If Tucker goes really high,
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Speaker 1: Bellinger's not the same player, he will not get as much,
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Speaker 1: but he might get more after Tucker goes. So that's
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Speaker 1: one way for Scott Boris to go about, and he
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Speaker 1: of course can sign Ballinger any moment if he gets
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Speaker 1: the deal he wants. But it's really interesting what we've
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Speaker 1: seen so far from these opt out free agents. Alonso,
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Speaker 1: for instance, he signed with the Mets last year, that
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Speaker 1: two year, fifty four million dollar deal. The first year
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Speaker 1: was thirty million, then he opted out, ends up getting
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Speaker 1: five years, one hundred and fifty five. So the total
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Speaker 1: in his free agency the two years six one eighty
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Speaker 1: five that is outstanding for Pete Alonzo. Now Gregman opted
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Speaker 1: out of his deal with the Red Sox forty million,
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Speaker 1: but really thirty one point seven in present day value
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Speaker 1: with all the deferrals. What will he get? What will
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Speaker 1: his final number be? And Cody Bellinger was with the Cubs,
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Speaker 1: opted in last year but opts out this year, ends
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Speaker 1: up making two years fifty five million or fifty five
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Speaker 1: million over two years with the Cubs, and now he
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Speaker 1: too stands to gain more in free agency. So that
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Speaker 1: strategy Scott Boris has taken with some of these players
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Speaker 1: over the years. I've been critical of it at times
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Speaker 1: because it seems like when he gets those short deals,
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Speaker 1: you're wondering, well, is he reading the market correctly? But
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Speaker 1: time and again go back to Matt Chapman was another one.
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Speaker 1: These have worked out pretty well for him, and we'll
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Speaker 1: see how it goes with Bregman and Bellinger coming up.
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Speaker 2: Ken Is Scott Boris the type of agent that will
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Speaker 2: allow perhaps a short term deal once for a client,
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Speaker 2: but not twice for the same guy.
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Speaker 1: That seems to be the way this goes. Alana, And obviously,
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Speaker 1: if the market dictates a second short term deal, he's
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Speaker 1: not going to have a choice. But basically, when you
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Speaker 1: have the short term deal, and this was the case
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Speaker 1: for Alonso and Bregman with a qualifying offer, okay, what
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Speaker 1: you're doing is hedging until the next year when you
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Speaker 1: won't have a qualifying offer and things are a little
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Speaker 1: bit freer. Seems that is what happened with Alonzo. To
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Speaker 1: an extent, I was a little prized Alonso got more
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Speaker 1: than Schwarber, even though he's almost two years younger. Kyle
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Speaker 1: Schwarber is coming off a fifty six home run season.
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Speaker 1: Seemed to have and we don't know for sure, but
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Speaker 1: seem to have a more active market. Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, Boston,
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Speaker 1: So Bellinger and Bregman they're next up, along with Tucker
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Speaker 1: and along with Boba Schett. Those are the four big
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Speaker 1: hitters remaining and we will see how this all goes.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, those are the four big hitters. Let's talk about
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Speaker 2: the pitching market for a moment. Ken, what is the
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Speaker 2: peralta the Freddie peralta market looking like right.
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Speaker 1: I wrote this with Will Samon a couple of days ago,
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Speaker 1: and if you recall Altam, maybe a week ago, the Brewers,
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Speaker 1: I reported, were cracking the door open for trade discussions. Well,
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Speaker 1: they've cracked the door open, and as I wrote with Will,
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Speaker 1: teams are now barging through. The Yankees, the Giants, the
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Speaker 1: Orioles are among them, and I would expect there are
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Speaker 1: some other teams as well. Maybe the Mets jump into
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Speaker 1: this thing. The Brewers are going to get pushed here.
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Speaker 1: Palta is an extremely valuable commodity, top five cy young finisher.
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Speaker 1: Not only that, making eight million in twenty twenty six
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Speaker 1: before becoming a free agent. Eight million is a lot
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Speaker 1: of money. To the normal person for a starting pitcher
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Speaker 1: of his caliber, it is a pittance. So they are
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Speaker 1: going to get pushed and pushed hard on Peralta, and
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Speaker 1: I would not be surprised to see them trade him,
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Speaker 1: even though after Brent Brandon Woodriff accept the qualifying offer,
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Speaker 1: the owner and the general manager, Mark Attanasio and Matt
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Speaker 1: Arnold talked excitedly about their rotation. We love our rotation,
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Speaker 1: but if they could perhaps get a young pitcher back
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Speaker 1: for Peralta. They go into the season with Woodruff, Mazarowski
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Speaker 1: and Priester as their top three, and they've got some
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Speaker 1: depth behind them. They could justify it in their heads
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Speaker 1: in that way.
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Speaker 2: Ken, who are the teams pushing for Peralta? Who's knocking
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Speaker 2: on Milwaukee's door? What makes the most sense?
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Speaker 1: Well, the teams I just mentioned all make sense, and
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Speaker 1: really a lot of any team that wants starting pitching
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Speaker 1: makes sense for Freddy Paralta just because of what I said.
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Speaker 1: The question is which team will be able to or
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Speaker 1: willing to pay the acquisition cost necessary to get one
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Speaker 1: year of Paralta and one year of a pitcher is
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Speaker 1: not going to get you what it might if you
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Speaker 1: had multiple years of control that you were peddling. So
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Speaker 1: we saw with Corbyn Burns the Brewers made a good
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Speaker 1: trade a couple of years ago. It was Joey Ortez,
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Speaker 1: it was Dale Hall, and it was a thirty fourth
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Speaker 1: pick in the draft. Now, our Chees hasn't hit much,
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Speaker 1: but he's a great defensive shortstop. Dale Hall has been
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Speaker 1: inconsistent and injured, but he's got a lot of promise
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Speaker 1: and the draft pick. We'll see how that turns out.
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Speaker 1: But Burns was making almost twice as much as Peralta,
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Speaker 1: so Paralta in the trade market will be that much
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Speaker 1: more valuable.
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Speaker 2: ID love to see where this is all going to
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Speaker 2: play out. I still think Ken and you know certainly
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Speaker 2: more than I, but I still would love to see
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Speaker 2: Woodroff and Peralta in the same rotation. Just makes Milwaukee
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Speaker 2: that much more formative. But obviously teams must like what
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Speaker 2: they're hearing about Freddy Peralta and those sweepstakes. Much more
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Speaker 2: to ask Ken Rosenthal a question. So the first one
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Speaker 2: is on the uh looks like, oh the Bechet market. Okay,
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Speaker 2: So this from Justin Longhai, justin, how are you who
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Speaker 2: is the most appealing shortstop available on the market? Assuming
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Speaker 2: can that most teams view Bo Bashett as a second
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Speaker 2: basement at this point, some teams.
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Speaker 1: Do view him as a shortstop, and that's my understanding
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Speaker 1: from talking to people in his camp, and you can
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Speaker 1: see why. Even though his metrics were down. Bob Bashett
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Speaker 1: is an extremely good offensive player and at shortstop he
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Speaker 1: give you a greater offensive boost than most shortstops will provide.
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Speaker 1: But if you're looking for a pure shortstop, a guy
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Speaker 1: who is a gifted defender, it's Hashan Kim and we
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Speaker 1: haven't heard a whole lot about him. The Braves certainly
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Speaker 1: would love to have him back. Remember they got him
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Speaker 1: for the final month of the season. There are other
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Speaker 1: teams as well, who I am sure are on Kim,
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Speaker 1: just as there are many teams on Bishett and Bashet's
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Speaker 1: Market's going to be really interesting. I reported last week
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Speaker 1: about Boston being in on him. Toronto of course is
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Speaker 1: in on him two and others. And he is a guy.
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Speaker 1: When you look at his offensive stats, the underlying ones,
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Speaker 1: they are really good. He hits the ball hard, he
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Speaker 1: hits good pitching. He is what you want at the plate.
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Speaker 1: And with regard to his position, he's certainly open to
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Speaker 1: playing second base as he did in the World Series,
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Speaker 1: and perhaps even third base. So that's going to be
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Speaker 1: an interesting one in the days ahead.
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Speaker 3: All right.
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Speaker 2: Another interesting candidate in terms of trade ken is katel Marte.
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Speaker 2: What are the what is the likelihood that katel Marte
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Speaker 2: gets traded? Videos two of seven? Are there any new
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Speaker 2: rumors regarding Arizona possibly moving him?
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Speaker 1: This one is hard to read because Arizona's position is
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Speaker 1: we will listen on katel Marte because we have extreme
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Speaker 1: pitching needs and some other needs as well, with so
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Speaker 1: many of their pitchers actually three of them injured coming
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Speaker 1: off Tommy Johns, Corbyn Burns, Justin Martinez in the bullpen
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Speaker 1: and AJ Puck. But they keep saying as well, we
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Speaker 1: don't really want to trade Marte because he is one
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Speaker 1: of the best second basemen in the game. That said,
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Speaker 1: there is a lot of activity on him. Nick Bacoro
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Speaker 1: of the Arizona Republic reporting that the Rays considered Shane
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Speaker 1: Boz and Pepio Ryan Pepio in a trade for Marte.
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Speaker 1: I'm told it wasn't those two exactly. It was one
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Speaker 1: of them plus more. But regardless the Rais or a
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Speaker 1: team that has been interested, the Pirates have an interest
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Speaker 1: in him. The Red Sox have been linked to him.
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Speaker 1: All kinds of teams would want katel Marte. But at
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Speaker 1: the same time, the Diamondbacks, like the Brewers with Peralta,
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Speaker 1: are going to ask for a high cost. They want
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Speaker 1: a high price, and you can understand that when you
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Speaker 1: have good players, that's what you do. So where this goes,
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but there's one other element here. Ten
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Speaker 1: days into the season, katel Marte gains ten and five
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Speaker 1: rights ten years of service, five consecutively with the same team,
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Speaker 1: and that means he can veto any trade. So if
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Speaker 1: you're going to trade him, and the Diamondbacks know this now.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to do it now. You can't wait
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Speaker 2: till the season starts, because then he gains more leverage
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Speaker 2: as you know, all right, for the Mets, who we've
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Speaker 2: talked about the Mets a lot this week. What would
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Speaker 2: a package for Wilson Contreras look like?
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Speaker 1: Not sure exactly. He's owed two years, thirty six and
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Speaker 1: a half million. I believe that is the number. It's
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Speaker 1: that range anyway, and because you're taking on the money,
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Speaker 1: I would assume that the prospect package wouldn't be extremely great.
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Speaker 1: It's not like you're going to have to give up
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Speaker 1: one of your top prospects for him. But maybe you
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Speaker 1: get or give one of a group of I don't know,
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Speaker 1: your top ten or fifteen, and maybe a little bit
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Speaker 1: more than that someone else's too. I'm not sure I'm
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Speaker 1: reading this right. Maybe I'm selling low or giving the
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Speaker 1: Cardinals not enough here. But Wilson Contreras is really good.
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Speaker 1: I don't know that he's going to get you one
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Speaker 1: of the mets big pitchers, mclean'sprote or Tom maybe someone
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Speaker 1: from a lesser group, a second tier of prospects.
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Speaker 2: All the Mets. What are you doing? More on that
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Speaker 2: to come? I think and do it in Dork of
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Speaker 2: the Week. This is a question in regards to Tarek
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Speaker 2: scooble Ken. I truly feel that Tarek scooble is not
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Speaker 2: going to get moved right now, and I don't think
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Speaker 2: he's coming to the Dodgers. What package can the Dodgers
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Speaker 2: offer for Schooble? This person Young? The twenty seven five
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Speaker 2: has she and emmitts shean Hope of course, and Dalton rushing.
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Speaker 1: That's an interesting package. And what you're getting in that
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Speaker 1: package is a guy who's ready to step into a
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Speaker 1: rotation in emmachine with five years of control. I believe
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Speaker 1: here Hope is one of the dodgers many fine outfield prospects.
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Speaker 1: They've got a bunch of them, three or four that
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Speaker 1: are a couple of years away in some cases, closer
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Speaker 1: in others. And then who is the third player in
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Speaker 1: that one? Oh? Russian in rushing guy, a quality bat.
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure he's going to be a catcher, but hey,
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Speaker 1: that's a guy that you would want. So the question
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Speaker 1: would become are the Dodgers willing to do that for
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Speaker 1: one year of Trerek's Schoobel? You remember the package I
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Speaker 1: just mentioned for Burns, the one year that the Orioles
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Speaker 1: got for him, They gave up less than what was
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Speaker 1: just described now. Trek scouble back to backsiw Young winner
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Speaker 1: Best Pitcher in the sport arguably right now, along with
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Speaker 1: Paul Skens, you would give up more for him than
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Speaker 1: perhaps the Brewers got for Burns. But I don't know
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Speaker 1: that you would go to that level. I'm sure the
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Speaker 1: Dodgers wouldn't want to ideally. But what's interesting here, Trek
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Speaker 1: Schooble represented by Scott Borris. If you're the Dodger, just
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Speaker 1: like when the Orioles acquired Burns, who also was represented
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Speaker 1: by Scott Borris, you know that player is going to
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Speaker 1: free agency. So the idea of getting him and signing
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Speaker 1: him to an extension right away probably not happening.
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Speaker 2: I have said that a thousand times, but because Ken
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Speaker 2: said it, I know that I'm not crazy. There's no
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Speaker 2: way he's going to go there for a year because
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Speaker 2: you know he's going to test free agency because Boris
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Speaker 2: is his agent. Ken, thank you.
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Speaker 1: One more Dodgers doesn't rule out the Dodgers and signing them.
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Speaker 1: It's just.
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Speaker 2: My guess is that they're going to want to sign
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Speaker 2: him to an extension at that time and they're not
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Speaker 2: going to be allowed to do so. Although you know
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Speaker 2: they wanted to do it with Mookie Betts and it
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Speaker 2: ended up working out.
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Speaker 1: But here we go.
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Speaker 2: Do the Giants change their minds and sign either Kyle
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Speaker 2: Tucker or Bobashett since there are holes at those positions.
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Speaker 2: George wants to know.
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Speaker 1: Bobaschett particularly would be a great fit. They are looking
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Speaker 1: for a second baseman, and they are acting curiously because
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Speaker 1: Andrew Baggerley of The Athletic Reporter a couple of weeks
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Speaker 1: ago that they're not in on am I a picture
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Speaker 1: that they've been linked to a pitcher who would fit
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Speaker 1: them naturally, and it seems that they're not prepared to
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Speaker 1: spend at the top of the market, and that's what
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Speaker 1: it's going to take for either of those players. And
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Speaker 1: you can understand it. For position players. They've already got
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Speaker 1: three huge deals on their books, devors A, Damis and Chapman.
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Speaker 1: But why they wouldn't continue spending on the pitching is
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Speaker 1: a little curious to me. I expect that they're going
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Speaker 1: to sign Max Scherzer. Max Scherzer loves Tony Vitello. It
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Speaker 1: was his pitching coach at Missouri, but they could use
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Speaker 1: one more and from that perspective, and maybe some bullpen
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Speaker 1: help as well. I'm a little baffled by the Giants
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Speaker 1: and they're seeming retrenchment here when they've spent heavily on
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Speaker 1: those three position players that I mentioned. Now, yes, they've
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Speaker 1: got big investments there and you can't fault them for that,
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Speaker 1: but it would seem that when you're at that level,
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Speaker 1: you'd want to keep going instead of kind of going backwards.
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Speaker 1: And I'm not sure which way they're going exactly.
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Speaker 2: Interesting Rhino Thunder sixty eight Ken has a question about
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Speaker 2: the O's, who obviously just landed Pete Alonso. To who
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Speaker 2: do you think the Orioles grab in terms of starting
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Speaker 2: pitching help.
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Speaker 1: Well, Ranger Suarez is a free agent that they've been
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Speaker 1: linked to Edward Cabrera. I reported with Will Salmon the
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Speaker 1: other day that that's a picture they're pursuing in trade.
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Speaker 1: Freddy Peralta we mentioned as well. I'm sure they're on
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Speaker 1: virtually every starting pitcher in the market, and with the
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Speaker 1: Alonso signing, it doesn't necessarily signal that they're going to
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Speaker 1: stop spending. If anything, they're going to keep going. As
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Speaker 1: I was just mentioning with the Giants, once you get
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Speaker 1: to a certain point, you want to make your team
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Speaker 1: as strong as possible. They have had so far, arguably
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Speaker 1: the best season of any team. I'm talking about Leot Taveres,
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Speaker 1: Andrew Kittridge, Taylor Ward, Pete Alonso, and Ryan Helsley. That's
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Speaker 1: a big haul. And again they're not done, so I'm
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Speaker 1: not exactly sure where they're going. Maybe they're not sure.
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Speaker 1: They're probably operating on multiple fronts, but they are going
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Speaker 1: to come away with a starting pitcher. And keep in mind,
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Speaker 1: they're not exactly lacking in that area. They've got Trevor
18:47
Speaker 1: Rodgers who really came out at the end of last season,
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Speaker 1: Kyle Bradish who came back from Tommy john So they're
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Speaker 1: in a good spot, but they need one more, if
18:55
Speaker 1: not two.
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Speaker 2: I have a question for you regarding that, actually two questions.
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Speaker 2: They train away Grayson Rodriguez, though, Ken, So why trade
19:02
Speaker 2: away Rodriguez when you are in need of a starter to.
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Speaker 1: Get Taylor Award and because you're not sure Grayson Rodriguez
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Speaker 1: will be healthy. Taylor Award was arguably best right handed
19:13
Speaker 1: hitting outfielder available. That is a position, and of ten,
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Speaker 1: it's of great scarcity right now. What I'm trying to
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Speaker 1: say was right handed hitting outfielders you can't find it.
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Speaker 1: Mike Petriella wrote a great article on MLB dot com
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Speaker 1: last week about this. They're just extremely scarce, so they
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Speaker 1: took a chance with Grayson Rodriguez. But that was the
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Speaker 1: choice that they made.
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Speaker 2: In all likelihood. Do you think their starting pitching help
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Speaker 2: can comes via trade or is there someone on the
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Speaker 2: free agent market you see fitting in?
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Speaker 1: My guess is trade. They've made their big free agent
19:47
Speaker 1: signing with Alonso. They've also signed Hellsley much lesser deal,
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Speaker 1: but a significant deal, and they have players to trade.
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Speaker 1: Kobe Mayo is one. Perhaps Ryan Mountcastle is now expendable
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Speaker 1: with Pete A. Lonso coming aboard, so they can do
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Speaker 1: some things from a trade perspective. They've got other prospects
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Speaker 1: as well. I would expect that's the way they would
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Speaker 1: prefer to go. Now, whether it's the way they actually go,
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe they feel they can get range
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Speaker 1: of Swarz on a great deal and they go in
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Speaker 1: that direction. Maybe they do that in trade for a
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Speaker 1: starting pitcher. Kind of the world is their oyster.
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Speaker 2: Right now, the Orioles, they have been busy. Great questions today, guys,
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Speaker 2: Thanks so much for participating in the chat with Ken Rosent.
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Speaker 2: Thought we're going to be right back after this with
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Speaker 1: Dude, dude, dude.
20:56
Speaker 2: All right, it is time to give some praise. I
20:58
Speaker 2: appreciate you having my self and Hazel May as the
21:01
Speaker 2: dudets of the week last week. Thank you for that.
21:03
Speaker 2: Who is your dude of the week.
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Speaker 1: More award winners Alana and I've got Joe buck Ford
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Speaker 1: Frick winner and Paul Hoynes the Baseball Writers Association of
21:13
Speaker 1: America Career Excellence Award winner. And these two guys were
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Speaker 1: honored this week or named to win those awards this week. Joe,
21:21
Speaker 1: of course, I worked for with Fox for many years.
21:24
Speaker 1: He called twenty four World Series. I know some people say, well, hey,
21:28
Speaker 1: he's still young for this. Come on, He's the second
21:30
Speaker 1: youngest since Vin Scully to win this award, and there
21:33
Speaker 1: are some other broadcasters quite deserving, but this vote is
21:38
Speaker 1: conducted among basically his peers, thirteen Living Frick Award recipients
21:44
Speaker 1: and three broadcast historians columnists. So those are the people
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Speaker 1: who chose Joe Buck, and they could not have made
21:51
Speaker 1: a better choice. He's one of the all time greats.
21:53
Speaker 1: I used to laugh all the time when people would say,
21:56
Speaker 1: ken Joe Buck suggs Man. Really Fox kept him out
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Speaker 1: for twenty four World Series and ESPN wanted them to
22:02
Speaker 1: cover football for them, And seems to me he's done
22:06
Speaker 1: okay for a guy who supposedly sucks. Paul Hoyins. We
22:10
Speaker 1: all love Paul. He is one of the great characters
22:13
Speaker 1: among baseball writers and he's covered the Guardians and Indians
22:17
Speaker 1: for more than four decades and done it with his
22:20
Speaker 1: usual work, ethic and humor and all of that and
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Speaker 1: a most deserving winner. Baseball Writers Association Award is a
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Speaker 1: little bit different. It's comprised of a voting block of
22:31
Speaker 1: all of us. All the baseball writers who are eligible
22:34
Speaker 1: to vote can do that, and Hoines was the selection
22:37
Speaker 1: this year. Very deserved.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, congratulations to both Joe Buck and Paul Hoyins. What
22:42
Speaker 2: an honor I mean to be able to be in
22:44
Speaker 2: Cooperstown and memorialized in that way is quite the honor,
22:47
Speaker 2: So congrats to them. My dude of the week is
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Speaker 2: Michael Lias. I think this is a guy that has
22:51
Speaker 2: been a little bit on the hot seat and we
22:53
Speaker 2: were wondering what his tenure was going to be, of
22:56
Speaker 2: course with the Baltimore Orioles, but they've had a very
23:00
Speaker 2: oppressive off season. I think obviously the feather in the
23:03
Speaker 2: cap is the signing of Pete Alonzo. I don't know
23:06
Speaker 2: that Alonzo wanted to leave New York, but the Mets
23:08
Speaker 2: are very questionable. So congratulations to Michael Lias making some
23:12
Speaker 2: good moves, making the Orioles incredibly relevant in what is
23:15
Speaker 2: a very competitive Al East. So all right, so there
23:19
Speaker 2: you have it as far as our dudes of the week.
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Speaker 2: Time now for our dork of the week. All right,
23:32
Speaker 2: I'll go ahead and take honors on this one. The Mets.
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Speaker 2: What are we doing? Ken? What are we doing? David
23:37
Speaker 2: Stearns goes over there from the Milwaukee Brewers and is
23:40
Speaker 2: treating the Mets like the brew Crew, And obviously Steve Cohen,
23:43
Speaker 2: with all of the money known to man more than God,
23:47
Speaker 2: really just got the licensing rights for casinos in that
23:51
Speaker 2: area and has gotten rid of the core. Brandon Neimo
23:54
Speaker 2: is in Texas obviously, Edwin Diaz welcome to Los Angeles,
23:59
Speaker 2: and pet alan is an Oh what are the Mets doing? Ken,
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Speaker 2: I just don't understand this. One of the richest owners
24:06
Speaker 2: in the game is getting rid of and now you
24:08
Speaker 2: just have this albatross of a contract of Juan Soto
24:10
Speaker 2: and nobody else around him.
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Speaker 1: Well, it's a great question what they're doing. I wrote
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Speaker 1: a column about it, and granted it's only December twelfth,
24:18
Speaker 1: the off season is far from over, but they have acted.
24:22
Speaker 1: In my views, I wrote with a confidence that borders
24:26
Speaker 1: on arrogance even indifference regarding these players. And I know
24:29
Speaker 1: certain Met fans are saying, well, we didn't win with
24:32
Speaker 1: these guys. They didn't win with those guys. True, but
24:35
Speaker 1: not because Peter Alonzo and Edwin Diaz in particular were
24:38
Speaker 1: poor performers. They were elite performers for the Mets, so
24:42
Speaker 1: they weren't the problem. Now, my dork of the week, Alana,
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Speaker 1: it's someone near and both of us you worked with
24:49
Speaker 1: him at MLB Network very closely on the same show.
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Speaker 1: So I'm going to exempt you from the conversation I
24:55
Speaker 1: know you don't want to maybe crush him. I will
24:57
Speaker 1: crush him. I worked with him at MLB Network two.
25:00
Speaker 1: Look at mad Dog Russo and watch this amazing feat
25:04
Speaker 1: of athleticism as he tried a half court shot. Go ahead, Doggie,
25:10
Speaker 1: here comes? What is this?
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Speaker 2: He also look like it also looked like he pulled
25:16
Speaker 2: a hammy. Not only is he one handing it up
25:18
Speaker 2: there and completely missing it, he's like he looked like
25:20
Speaker 2: he pulled a hamstring in this process.
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Speaker 1: Alana, you just asked the question with the Mets, what
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Speaker 1: are we doing? I have the same question for the dog,
25:28
Speaker 1: what are we doing? And really what we saw there?
25:31
Speaker 1: Merritt's one of his classic rants on ESPN, but we're
25:34
Speaker 1: not going to see it. The dog's not going to
25:36
Speaker 1: rip the dog. But he's the dork of the week.
25:39
Speaker 1: He is the dork of the week.
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Speaker 2: We appreciate it very much for all of you that
25:44
Speaker 2: are watching and listening. Foul Territory is coming up after this,
25:47
Speaker 2: but I have to tell you what a time to
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Speaker 2: be with you. Ken have a great week. You're awesome
25:53
Speaker 2: at the Winter meetings. Don't forget everybody Their territory is next.
25:57
Speaker 2: Tod Frazier Eric krat Scott Braun. They're going to walk
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Speaker 2: FP Santangelo Ferries back Monday at ten am. Have a
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Speaker 2: great week, everybody,