Latest / Becker’s Healthcare Podcast / The Journey to Comprehensive Cardiac Center Certification
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- 0:51- Welcome to the Becker's Healthcare Cardiology and Heart
- 0:54- Surgery podcast. I'm Araya Taylor, assistant editor, and
- 0:57- I'm thrilled to be speaking with two leaders
- 0:59- from MU Health Care.
- 1:01- Arun Kumar, Medical Director of the Cardiovascular Service
- 1:04- Line, and Amy Begeman, Senior Director of Cardiovascular
- 1:07- and Neuroscience
- 1:08- Services.
- 1:09- Thank you both for being here today. I
- 1:11- am really excited to learn more about your
- 1:13- journey to becoming a joint commission's comprehensive cardiac
- 1:17- center.
- 1:19- So before we dive into that though, I
- 1:20- would love for both of you to introduce
- 1:22- yourself and tell us a little bit about
- 1:23- your background. Doctor Kumar, will you go first?
- 1:27- Yes. Thanks for having us on. I'm Arun
- 1:29- Kumar. I'm an interventional cardiologist
- 1:31- by training.
- 1:32- I've been at, University of Missouri since 2009,
- 1:36- and I've been involved in a lot of
- 1:38- quality improvement projects
- 1:40- and,
- 1:41- educational projects. So this is, near and dear
- 1:44- to my heart.
- 1:46- Excellent. And, Amy, how about you introduce yourself?
- 1:49- Sure. Appreciate the opportunity.
- 1:51- I'm Amy Begeman. I'm the service line here
- 1:53- at MU Health Care. Been here just a
- 1:56- little over five years,
- 1:57- but been in health care and in the
- 1:59- cardiovascular
- 2:00- space
- 2:01- probably for upwards of
- 2:03- eleven or twelve years, but in health care,
- 2:05- probably twenty five plus.
- 2:08- Excellent.
- 2:09- Now I'm super excited to get into our
- 2:11- topic today because recently,
- 2:13- your system became
- 2:15- one of joint commissions comprehensive cardiac centers,
- 2:18- and you managed to get that certification.
- 2:21- I believe if I saw correctly, you're one
- 2:23- of 28 in the country, which is quite
- 2:25- impressive.
- 2:26- So talk us through how this journey to
- 2:28- certification began.
- 2:31- Yeah. Thank you for for that recognition.
- 2:33- The journey really started with a simple question
- 2:36- about how we can take our an already
- 2:38- very strong program, from a cardiovascular
- 2:41- aspect and make it even better.
- 2:43- So we saw Joint Commission's comprehensive
- 2:46- cardiac center certification as a great opportunity really
- 2:49- to step back,
- 2:51- evaluate everything that we were doing, and really
- 2:53- celebrate what's working well and identify those areas
- 2:56- in which we could,
- 2:58- continue to improve.
- 3:00- We really formalized that by placing it on
- 3:02- our strategic plan several years ago as a
- 3:04- tactic
- 3:05- and, trying to get that achieved within a
- 3:08- a twelve to eighteen month time frame.
- 3:11- One of the things that really attracted us
- 3:12- to the certification
- 3:14- is the broad focus.
- 3:16- We started down the path with our TAVR
- 3:18- program probably as as the first
- 3:21- to gain a certification.
- 3:22- But this really let us,
- 3:24- look back and
- 3:26- not just look at some specialty or singular
- 3:29- procedure type aspects,
- 3:31- but really evaluate the entire service line as
- 3:33- a whole and how all of those pieces
- 3:35- work together on the behalf of our
- 3:37- patients.
- 3:38- For us, really, the certification
- 3:41- standards provided a roadmap. They helped us bring
- 3:44- together many of the initiatives and and improvements
- 3:46- that we've had in development or had already
- 3:48- implemented,
- 3:49- over the last couple of years and really
- 3:51- align them into a cohesive strategy,
- 3:54- for the service line.
- 3:57- Again, it was really collaborative,
- 3:59- looking at all of the different aspects
- 4:02- or specialties that are highlighted within the certification.
- 4:06- Brought our physicians and nurses, advanced practice providers,
- 4:11- our therapists, our technologists,
- 4:13- our quality experts, data abstractors, and really our
- 4:16- operational leaders together
- 4:18- around a shared goal and vision really to
- 4:20- develop and deliver the highest quality care possible,
- 4:24- here in Mid Missouri.
- 4:27- Throughout that, of course, we're keeping the patient
- 4:29- experience, at the forefront and focused throughout that
- 4:32- process.
- 4:33- We wanted to ensure that every step,
- 4:36- from early detection and prevention
- 4:38- to diagnosis, whether that be emergent, from a
- 4:41- surgical perspective, whether that's recovering,
- 4:44- or even our cardiac and physical rehabilitation,
- 4:47- all of those were coordinated and seamless
- 4:49- and really grounded in evidence
- 4:51- based practices.
- 4:53- Ultimately, the, certification
- 4:55- validated the great work that our teams had
- 4:57- already been doing and really confirmed
- 4:59- that what we were providing is nationally recognized
- 5:02- cardiovascular
- 5:03- care.
- 5:04- Just as important, it gave us really the
- 5:06- valuable insights into where we could continue to
- 5:09- grow,
- 5:10- knowing that we have improvements that, need to
- 5:13- take place on a daily basis in everything
- 5:15- that we do. So and,
- 5:18- again, at the forefront, really, it's the patients
- 5:20- and the communities that we serve and the
- 5:22- mission at at NuHealthcare with the,
- 5:24- aspects of saving and improving lives.
- 5:28- Absolutely.
- 5:29- That's such a great overview of your journey.
- 5:32- Did you already say how long did it
- 5:34- take you from when you started this journey
- 5:35- to getting certification?
- 5:38- So initial approval,
- 5:40- to move down this pathway from an executive
- 5:43- aspect probably started three or four years ago,
- 5:46- to be honest.
- 5:47- And, we got it on the strategic plan
- 5:50- as a tactic.
- 5:52- The system as a whole did a more
- 5:53- comprehensive strategic plan, and this was one of
- 5:56- the tactics probably two years ago that we
- 5:58- initiated.
- 6:01- Excellent.
- 6:02- Now I'd love to dive a little bit
- 6:03- deeper into some of those changes you've made
- 6:05- over the past few years. So what have
- 6:07- been some of the most important changes you
- 6:10- made to achieve certification?
- 6:13- Yeah. I can go into that. We we
- 6:14- already know we have excellent physicians,
- 6:17- nurses, caregivers
- 6:19- throughout our system.
- 6:20- But the certification process really helped us align
- 6:23- our efforts across the entire service line.
- 6:27- Really important it was important for us to
- 6:29- bring everyone together in a more intentional way.
- 6:32- And just going through some of the examples
- 6:34- of things we did,
- 6:35- included strengthening communication
- 6:37- and collaboration
- 6:38- among our team members,
- 6:40- to make sure patients experience had a seamless
- 6:43- con continuum of care.
- 6:46- We continued working on standardization
- 6:48- of our clinical processes and protocols,
- 6:51- reduce variation.
- 6:53- Again, just really make sure the patients get
- 6:55- evidence based care at every stage of their
- 6:57- treatment.
- 6:59- Care transitions are very important, so we focused
- 7:01- on that area in great detail.
- 7:04- Again, just prevention, outpatient, hospital care,
- 7:08- cardiac rehab, and just long term follow-up, really
- 7:11- looking at that entire continuum.
- 7:15- Additionally, we looked to be very data driven.
- 7:17- We are already very data driven at MU,
- 7:20- and we're really,
- 7:22- leaned in on that,
- 7:23- measuring quality, track outcomes in a more system
- 7:26- systematic way throughout the service line.
- 7:29- We're already involved in continuous quality improvement, but
- 7:32- this gave us the ability to get more
- 7:35- members of our team,
- 7:36- not just the operational leaders, but members of
- 7:39- our team to be really engaged in this
- 7:41- process.
- 7:43- So I think a combination of all those
- 7:45- things,
- 7:46- and aligning all the team members,
- 7:49- was very important to help get to the
- 7:51- certification.
- 7:53- Absolutely.
- 7:54- And what have been some of the most
- 7:56- impressive results that have come from this journey?
- 7:59- So I'd say one of the biggest is,
- 8:02- really how patients view us as a service
- 8:05- line, but even as an organization. They they
- 8:08- wanna know there's confidence in
- 8:11- the facility or organization or service at the
- 8:13- services that they're looking to,
- 8:16- have here at MU Health Care. So this
- 8:18- certification really enforced that patients don't have to
- 8:21- leave Mid Missouri
- 8:23- to access the exceptional cardiovascular care that we
- 8:25- provide here.
- 8:27- Right here in Columbia, patients have access to
- 8:30- nationally recognized expertise. We have advanced procedures
- 8:34- where leading edge technology
- 8:36- aspects,
- 8:37- we try to put into place, being cognizant
- 8:39- that may not be,
- 8:41- on the on the cutting, cutting edge, but
- 8:43- we wanna be first adopters or as quick
- 8:45- to that as we can. And we have
- 8:46- the expertise here to be able to do
- 8:48- that.
- 8:49- And a highly coordinated team focused on really,
- 8:51- again, delivering that best possible outcome,
- 8:54- to our patients.
- 8:56- Honestly, what I'm proud of is the culture
- 8:57- that really has emerged from this journey.
- 9:00- As Doctor. Kumar kinda insinuated,
- 9:03- really digging in and having the people that
- 9:06- do the work every day be involved in
- 9:08- this and really helping from an improvement standpoint.
- 9:11- And so that has,
- 9:13- I think given more value to everyone on
- 9:16- the team, and I think that's a huge
- 9:17- component of this.
- 9:19- The certification process really brought people together in
- 9:22- a more meaningful way. It strengthened that collaboration,
- 9:25- that accountability,
- 9:26- that really shared sense of purpose across the
- 9:29- entire service line.
- 9:31- Team members really gain, a deeper appreciation
- 9:34- of how their roles really connect,
- 9:37- across that continuum of care and how every
- 9:40- interaction really does contribute to the patient's overall
- 9:43- well
- 9:44- overall experience and well-being.
- 9:46- It kind of helped to also break down
- 9:48- traditional silos instead of thinking only as as
- 9:51- a specific department or a phase of care.
- 9:54- Our teams really started to look at cardiovascular
- 9:57- care through the lens of the patient's complete
- 9:59- journey.
- 10:01- For the patients,
- 10:03- really a more coordinated and seamless and consistent
- 10:06- experience from start to finish is what we're
- 10:08- trying to achieve. So our physicians, again, nurses,
- 10:11- therapists,
- 10:12- everyone on the team, really is being a
- 10:14- part of this program
- 10:15- and always striving to learn or improve and
- 10:18- achieve even better outcomes.
- 10:20- I think one of the things that was
- 10:22- valuable as well,
- 10:24- really with any certification or process like this
- 10:27- that you go through
- 10:28- is that those that are coming into survey
- 10:31- do share best practices that they have seen
- 10:33- at other facilities or allow you to be
- 10:36- contacted or or to make connections with others
- 10:39- that have achieved this certification.
- 10:41- So I think that was another component that,
- 10:43- I would really highlight, through this journey also.
- 10:47- Ultimately, the certification
- 10:49- recognizes
- 10:50- much more than just clinical excellence. It really
- 10:53- reflects on the commitment and expertise and dedication
- 10:56- of the people providing the care every day.
- 10:59- Every physician,
- 11:00- nurse, technician,
- 11:02- support team member played it in its at
- 11:04- a a very high aspect role in achieving
- 11:07- this milestone, and and it really is a
- 11:09- testament to the collective efforts
- 11:11- of the entire service line.
- 11:15- Absolutely.
- 11:16- That's some incredible work. And like I said
- 11:18- at the beginning, you're one in about 28
- 11:21- of hospitals that have this certification, and I'm
- 11:24- sure there are many more out there that
- 11:25- are on the same journey trying to get
- 11:27- where you are now. So what advice do
- 11:30- you have for those leaders in programs about
- 11:32- reaching certification?
- 11:35- Yeah. I think from a mindset standpoint,
- 11:37- really, it's to not focus on earning the
- 11:40- certification itself, but really building on the culture
- 11:43- of excellence and continuous
- 11:44- improvement.
- 11:46- I know here we really, you know, wanted
- 11:48- to strengthen our cardiovascular program. That's the goal.
- 11:51- And then the certification would be just a
- 11:54- natural result of those efforts. So having that
- 11:56- mindset, I think, is the key as opposed
- 11:59- to saying, what do we have to do
- 12:00- to get this certification?
- 12:02- It's really just doing the right things,
- 12:04- that need to be done to have an
- 12:06- excellent program.
- 12:08- As far as specifics, I would suggest starting
- 12:11- early. Amy mentioned
- 12:13- that we thought about this years in advance.
- 12:16- So I would recommend,
- 12:17- beginning the process at least twelve to eighteen
- 12:20- months in advance.
- 12:22- Finding physician administrative champions to align the teams
- 12:26- toward a shared vision.
- 12:28- And I think really important point is involving
- 12:30- frontline staff from the beginning.
- 12:33- They're the ones who have the best insight
- 12:35- on the day to day management,
- 12:37- knowing what the gaps in care are, ways
- 12:39- where we could really improve the patient experience
- 12:42- and the quality of
- 12:44- care. Those are, I think, the key,
- 12:46- aspects that I would suggest with respect to
- 12:48- advice.
- 12:50- Excellent.
- 12:51- Well, this has been such a great discussion.
- 12:53- I really appreciate both of you coming on
- 12:55- the podcast today.
- 12:57- Thank you. Thank you. We appreciate the opportunity.