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LNC Gets Excited for 2025 · Large Nerdron Collider

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Large nor John Collider Podcast,
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  Speaker 1: the podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in
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  Speaker 1: the world around us and how very excited we are
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  Speaker 1: about them. We have missed you. I am Ariel cast In,
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  Speaker 1: and with me, as always is the amazingly awesome Jonathan Strickland.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if I remember how to do this anymore.
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  Speaker 1: That's okay. I introed us, so we're already in it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what first take y'all who which before us?
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  Speaker 2: Before the hiatus. I'm going to be honest with you,
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  Speaker 2: there were a couple of episodes where we had to
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  Speaker 2: do it twice.
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  Speaker 1: It depends on how much sleep I've had.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then and then of course we end up
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  Speaker 2: referencing things that have been cut out of the episode,
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  Speaker 2: and then everyone's like, why aren't they even talking about?
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  Speaker 1: You know what? The real problem is the problem is
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  Speaker 1: is when I try to get clever and it's something
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  Speaker 1: into the intro, but I haven't figured out how or
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  Speaker 1: where to put it because I don't give it enough forethought.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I always do my little weird response when you
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  Speaker 2: introduced me, and honestly, ninety nine times out of one hundred.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm gonna say until you're like,
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  Speaker 2: you're like saying my name, and I'm like, oh, no,
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  Speaker 2: say something. So but it is nice to be back.
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  Speaker 2: As Ariel said, we had been on a very long
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  Speaker 2: hiatus because we had holidays and travel. I went out
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  Speaker 2: of the country.
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  Speaker 1: I went out of town a couple of times.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So, and that's going to happen more, obviously, because
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  Speaker 2: we've got more holidays coming up. Ariel's going to be
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  Speaker 2: celebrating a birthday real soon.
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  Speaker 1: We might we still you know, we record on my
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  Speaker 1: birthday this year. We might still record an episode if
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  Speaker 1: you're free. I just have stuff in that evening. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's not I'm not partying. I'm doing actor work.
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  Speaker 2: It bums me out though, because I invited her to
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  Speaker 2: a party and she can't go.
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  Speaker 1: I know, I have an acting conference and there are
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  Speaker 1: people there that I should meet that I have not
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  Speaker 1: had an opportunity to meet before.
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  Speaker 2: So you are doing the right thing. We're just all
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  Speaker 2: the poorer for it because we were gonna try and
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  Speaker 2: get together and do some karaoke and Ariel's voice is
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  Speaker 2: always welcome.
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  Speaker 1: Well one, I'm poor for it too. Because I love
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  Speaker 1: doing karaoke with you. And two, I don't know, I've
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  Speaker 1: been I've been singing along to my Broadway playlists and
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  Speaker 1: it's not been pretty lately.
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  Speaker 2: Oh listen, you don't have to. You don't have to
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  Speaker 2: to make excuses for me. I mean I have I
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  Speaker 2: have never been the strongest singer, but my abilities have
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  Speaker 2: atrophied severely.
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  Speaker 1: So part of it is a few weeks ago, I
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  Speaker 1: went to a friend's birthday party, and I don't it
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  Speaker 1: was after Disney, so I don't know if something at
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  Speaker 1: Disney caused it, or I think the party caused it,
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  Speaker 1: or it was completely random. But after this birthday party,
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  Speaker 1: the next day, I woke up with horrible hives.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Like I had.
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  Speaker 1: To be put on prednizone and stuff and so and so,
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  Speaker 1: like I'm working to go see an allergist to figure
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  Speaker 1: out what caused that, because that's new. Yeah, but it
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  Speaker 1: my throat still has not quite It's it's not COVID,
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  Speaker 1: I've checked. It's not of cold, it's it's allergy ish,
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  Speaker 1: but my throat hasn't quite recovered yet.
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  Speaker 2: So wow, Well, I hope you figured that out soon,
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  Speaker 2: because as someone who suffers from various allergies. I know
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  Speaker 2: how scary that can be, especially like when you get
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  Speaker 2: if you get hives and then it develops into beyond hives,
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  Speaker 2: to things like you feel you're breathing tubes starting to
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  Speaker 2: swell up. It's it's serious stuff. I've been to the
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  Speaker 2: hospital more than once because of that.
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  Speaker 1: I've I've definitely had like skin breakouts or lies.
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  Speaker 2: But this was like all body.
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  Speaker 1: It was all over my arms, on my ankles, on
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  Speaker 1: my chest and spreading.
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  Speaker 2: Did you have did you were any of your soft tissues,
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  Speaker 2: like say your lips or whatever swelling up to.
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't tell. I was so distracted by the thing.
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  Speaker 1: But I did definitely have like itchy sword throat, which
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  Speaker 1: is what I get with my normal food allergens. Right,
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  Speaker 1: And it's been hard because sometimes it does feel like
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  Speaker 1: my throat tightens. It's never to the point where I
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  Speaker 1: can't breathe, but it's one of those things that is
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  Speaker 1: hard to quantify.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, I've I've had the experience a couple times
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  Speaker 2: going into anaphylaxis and it's no fun. And it's it's
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  Speaker 2: slow enough where it's not like it's not like it's instantaneous.
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  Speaker 2: It's a process, but it's a process that only gets
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  Speaker 2: worse until you start getting like any histamines pumped into you.
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  Speaker 2: So I hope that you get this figured out and
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  Speaker 2: that whatever it is is something that's easy to avoid
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  Speaker 2: and not tragic.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, me, me too. Uh. I I have had
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  Speaker 1: like my lips go numb and tingly, and yet I've
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  Speaker 1: gotten lightheaded once.
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  Speaker 2: But that's I told you. I'm sorry. The kiss was
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  Speaker 2: what it was. We're on stage, we're doing a show.
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  Speaker 2: We have to kiss. She goes all tingly and numb.
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  Speaker 2: It's just what I do.
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  Speaker 1: That's more interesting than the actual story.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, because actual story is that our stage
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  Speaker 2: kisses were about as chaste as they possibly could be.
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  Speaker 1: Which is how stage kisses are should be.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, they should be that follow that. Yeah, when I
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  Speaker 2: hear those stories, and you even told me one once,
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  Speaker 2: but when I hear those stories, it is mortifying to me.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, when you're on stage with someone, you need
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  Speaker 2: to feel like you can trust that person because that's
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  Speaker 2: that's your partner for telling a story, like trust is
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  Speaker 2: absolutely necessary for that and to violate that trust by
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  Speaker 2: like frenching someone on a stage kiss when you told
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  Speaker 2: me that, Oh my gosh, I got so upset and
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  Speaker 2: angry on your behalf. And you, of course had already
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  Speaker 2: processed it by the time you told me, but I,
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  Speaker 2: for me, it was the first time, and I just
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  Speaker 2: got real head up about it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, like, processing is a thing. If I think
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  Speaker 1: about it too much, I'll still get angry because part
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  Speaker 1: of my processing.
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  Speaker 2: Is just like moving past the suppression then moving on.
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  Speaker 1: Not gonna lieh but yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and you know, I've heard the same sort
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  Speaker 2: of thing from It's almost always the women I know
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  Speaker 2: who I've been in theater, like the experiences they've had,
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  Speaker 2: and I just sit there and think, like, what kind
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  Speaker 2: of crappy actor takes like takes that kind of advantage
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  Speaker 2: of their scene partner, Like it's it's so unthinkable to me.
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  Speaker 2: My thought process whenever I had a stage kiss was
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  Speaker 2: just like are you sure? Because I'm more of a
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  Speaker 2: character actor than like a romantic lead, but I'm ill,
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  Speaker 2: I will, I will happily do a stage kiss if
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  Speaker 2: you want me to, but like, are you sure you
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  Speaker 2: want that? And fortunately the people I've been paired with
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  Speaker 2: we've always been professional as you and Shae, friend of
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  Speaker 2: the show shay Lee. She and I had some stage
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  Speaker 2: kisses at a season at Fair and I've been lucky
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  Speaker 2: that everyone was super professional and like it was the
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  Speaker 2: same thing as doing anything else on stage, like shaking
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  Speaker 2: someone's hand or like, you know, stepping past someone. It
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  Speaker 2: wasn't ever, it wasn't ever anything more than that. And
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  Speaker 2: I just can't imagine someone being like, this is my chance, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: smooch a hawtie.
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  Speaker 1: Well, And that's why I really love in Hollywood. This
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  Speaker 1: is not at all where we intended to go, but
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  Speaker 1: it's totally fine. It's why I love in Hollywood that
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  Speaker 1: intimacy coordinators are becoming a thing. Yeah, because at that,
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  Speaker 1: like you said, it's like making a hand or something.
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  Speaker 1: You know. I've there's Jessica I don't remember her Steinrock.
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  Speaker 1: She's she's a TikTok and Instagram intimacy coordinator. Her her
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  Speaker 1: content is amazing. I love it, but you know, she's like,
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  Speaker 1: it's like fight choreography. You know it should be specific,
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  Speaker 1: and you know they are working within actors comfort levels
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  Speaker 1: and things like that. But there are some actors who
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  Speaker 1: are like, I'm fine, I like improving. I don't need
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  Speaker 1: an intimacy coordinator, But you do even if you and
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  Speaker 1: the other actor decide that you're okay winging it a
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  Speaker 1: little bit because you want to make sure everybody's comfortable,
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  Speaker 1: and you want that in a mediary because you may
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  Speaker 1: not be comfortable telling your scene partner. But beyond that,
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  Speaker 1: when you choreograph a kiss or something like that and
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  Speaker 1: you talk through it and you make sure that it
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  Speaker 1: is chased, then there's not like a chance of getting
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  Speaker 1: extra feels. I mean, how many times in Hollywood do
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  Speaker 1: we hear about like this person in this part or
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  Speaker 1: and in community theater too hooked up and broke up
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  Speaker 1: with their current significant others because they hooked up and
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  Speaker 1: it's just it's not healthy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we had that. The stories are happening right now.
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  Speaker 2: Like if you look at if you look at any
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  Speaker 2: of the stuff around Wicked, you're gonna run into that.
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  Speaker 2: For good reason. I mean, we don't want to, We
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  Speaker 2: don't need to go into all that. But this is
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  Speaker 2: also why, like Ariel was saying, you know, catching feels
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  Speaker 2: being something that actors are just as prone to as
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  Speaker 2: other people. Some might argue more prone to it, which
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  Speaker 2: is why you know, Ariel and I did a stage
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  Speaker 2: kiss and Shaye and I did a stage kiss, and
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  Speaker 2: that's why Ariel and Shaye love each other. Now, it's
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  Speaker 2: just it's through they through a degree of separation, they've
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  Speaker 2: made out and you know it's my fault.
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  Speaker 1: It is. It is really interesting because you know, one thing,
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  Speaker 1: you have to separate yourself from your character because you
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  Speaker 1: spend so much time in this other person's shoes. That's
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  Speaker 1: why it's so easy to conflate their feelings with your feelings,
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  Speaker 1: even if you're not a method actor, because you are
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  Speaker 1: still feeling something sure, and if it's imaginary.
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  Speaker 2: If you're not, then all you're doing is is moving
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  Speaker 2: to point, saying something, moving to another point, saying the
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  Speaker 2: next thing, like you're just going through the paces and
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  Speaker 2: not actually acting.
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  Speaker 1: I saw somebody talk about Wicked and they said that
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  Speaker 1: Cynthia Rivo on set, who played Alphaba, would literally step
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  Speaker 1: forward to get into character and step back to get
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  Speaker 1: out of it because that character goes to some pretty
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  Speaker 1: dark places. And so I found that very interesting. Everybody
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  Speaker 1: has their own like decompression.
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  Speaker 2: Methods, but yeah, it's interesting. I'm curious about yours. Like
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  Speaker 2: I'm one of those actors who I can go I
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  Speaker 2: can go from backstage Jonathan to on stage character. Just
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  Speaker 2: as soon as I cross the threshold to go on
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  Speaker 2: to stage, like don't, I don't have that thing where
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  Speaker 2: I stay in character. When I come off stage, I
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  Speaker 2: go right back into backstage Jonathan, and then I'm fine
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  Speaker 2: to be on stage character again. Like it doesn't. You
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  Speaker 2: could argue, I'm also not a very good actor. So
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  Speaker 2: let's take that as a grain of salt.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna argue that you are a very good actor.
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  Speaker 1: But whatever, thank you, You're welcome. I mean so, like
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  Speaker 1: for funny characters, it is easier if your character is
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  Speaker 1: in a light heart or even serious characters, if they're
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  Speaker 1: in a light hearted place, it's a lot easier to
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  Speaker 1: step back and forth. It's when you've got the big
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  Speaker 1: angry emotions or sad emotions, things like that. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: you have experienced.
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  Speaker 2: That, yes, yeah, if you want to, if you want
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  Speaker 2: to play something someone who has very strong, passionate and
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  Speaker 2: typically angry or hurt emotions, it is much harder to
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  Speaker 2: just do the switch flipping from one to the other. Like,
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  Speaker 2: I totally get that, because again, if you want it
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  Speaker 2: to be genuine and not just the performance of emotion,
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  Speaker 2: which an audience can smell a mile away, right. We
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  Speaker 2: can all tell when someone's just faking it, like sometimes
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  Speaker 2: that's staged, like sometimes it's an important part of a
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  Speaker 2: story where you can tell that a character is faking
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  Speaker 2: that they are upset or sad or whatever. But if
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  Speaker 2: you are supposed to be, you want the audience to
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  Speaker 2: feel that you are, And so I can totally see
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  Speaker 2: it in those And for the most part, most of
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  Speaker 2: the stuff I've worked in has been light light theater.
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  Speaker 1: We shall say, yeah, yeah, you know its Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: do a lot of light stuff. I've lately had a
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  Speaker 1: lot of additions for distrap people, so it has been
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  Speaker 1: like a challenge because usually what happens is I'll step
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  Speaker 1: into that character, the tears don't come, which you don't
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  Speaker 1: need tears to earnestly portray upset or sad or heartbroken
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  Speaker 1: or whatever. You don't need tears half the time. Then
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  Speaker 1: when we show up on camera, unless you're in a
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  Speaker 1: super close up anyhow, but you know, usually I will
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  Speaker 1: fight with that emotion and then when I'm done with
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  Speaker 1: the scene, I'll go off and cry in a corner. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: which I would rather cry on camera and get it
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  Speaker 1: out there.
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  Speaker 2: But well, I want to say it was I could
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  Speaker 2: be wrong about the actor, but I want to say
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  Speaker 2: it was Mike Cocaine who was talking about the paw
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  Speaker 2: hour of a character who appears to be holding back
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  Speaker 2: tears instead of like a character who's just outwardly crying.
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  Speaker 2: And then a character that appears to be trying to
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  Speaker 2: stop themselves from crying or expressing an emotion can often
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  Speaker 2: have a much larger emotional impact on an audience than
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  Speaker 2: a character who's actually like outwardly sobbing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, because when you see someone trying to hide
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  Speaker 1: their emotions, that's what we all do every day. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but that actually leads into one of my thirty seconds
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  Speaker 1: or less stories because I got some opinions on it.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, well we'll get to that, but before we do that, Like,
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  Speaker 2: this has been a long preamble, This is going to
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  Speaker 2: be a long episode. I can tell away. But well,
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  Speaker 2: let's talk a.
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  Speaker 1: Little situate in very short bits so you get through
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  Speaker 1: the holidays.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because who knows what, we'll be taking more breaks,
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  Speaker 2: but let's plan on recording next week unless something crazy happens.
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  Speaker 2: But we want to start off the way we typically
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  Speaker 2: do and talk about some of the stuff we've seen
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  Speaker 2: since the last time we recorded. Now, in my case,
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  Speaker 2: I could only remember a couple of things, even though
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  Speaker 2: I know I've seen more than that. But Ariel, let's
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  Speaker 2: talk about your stuff first, because you've got quite a
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  Speaker 2: bit here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So Gastronauts is the dropout show. I've been continuing
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  Speaker 1: to watch that. They've been putting out stuff like every week.
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  Speaker 1: It's interesting when you said you often don't know what
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  Speaker 1: you're going to say until as I'm announcing you, because
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  Speaker 1: the host of Gastronauts admitted to a similar thing. She's like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what food pun I'm gonna do. Oh no,
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  Speaker 1: I have twenty seconds to figure it out. Yeah, they
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  Speaker 1: usually do great. So I watched that. It continues to
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  Speaker 1: be fun. It is hard. It's weird because again it's
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  Speaker 1: not always about pretty food. It's about meeting the comedic challenge.
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  Speaker 1: But the food usually always tastes good. I watched Last
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  Speaker 1: Fight Hotel, which was more of a Halloween feature. But
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  Speaker 1: I'm behind on everything where Titus Burgess is the host
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  Speaker 1: of a I might have already talked about this, so
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  Speaker 1: I'll keep it. Every host of like a hotel, and
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  Speaker 1: all of these chefs come in, they can only put
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  Speaker 1: thirteen items in their chest, and that's what they get
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  Speaker 1: to cook with for the entire week. Are those thirteen items.
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  Speaker 2: And once they're out of something, they're out.
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  Speaker 1: They're out. Yes, And then each challenge, like a celebrity
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  Speaker 1: chef comes in and asks for something like beef wellington.
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  Speaker 1: Well one chef only brought rice and chicken and herbs,
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  Speaker 1: so you still have to figure it out. There's there's
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of sharing allowed, but not much. And
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  Speaker 1: then when somebody does get eliminated, they have to go
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  Speaker 1: to room thirteen and basically write out their will for
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  Speaker 1: who gets what of their remaining belongings.
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  Speaker 2: Oh okay, it's a.
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  Speaker 1: Really fun show. It was like the chefs were great
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  Speaker 1: to watch. It was fun to see how they tackled
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  Speaker 1: each challenge and came up with new dishes with the
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  Speaker 1: same ingredients because you know, food waste is a thing,
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  Speaker 1: so it was kind of cool to look from that aspect.
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  Speaker 1: Titus Burges, who I love. He played Titus in the
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  Speaker 1: Incredible Can Be Incredible. Kimi Schmidt Unbreakable. Kimmie Schmidt, that's it.
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  Speaker 2: She was also the song Yeah breakable, She's.
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  Speaker 1: Also incredible, But yes, Unbreakable. Kimischmitt really committed to the
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  Speaker 1: incredibly socially awkward, kind of creepy hotel concierge, but was
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  Speaker 1: in a completely different story than everybody else in this challenge.
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  Speaker 1: The rest of it was a cooking show and nobody
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  Speaker 1: else had a character.
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  Speaker 2: Did that add to or detract from your experience?
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  Speaker 1: I would I think it detracted a little bit, because
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  Speaker 1: I mean, like even the celebrity guest chefs weren't playing
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  Speaker 1: care Like one or two of them played up the
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  Speaker 1: guest aspect, but it was pretty much everybody else acting
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  Speaker 1: like normal people and then him being way over the
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  Speaker 1: top weird, which in a comedy horror would be perfect.
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  Speaker 1: Like again, committed to the role. It was just fit
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  Speaker 1: different genre.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it kind of makes me. It makes me
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  Speaker 2: curious if Alan Cumming is like that in was it
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  Speaker 2: like Traders or something like that. Yeah, there's that which
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  Speaker 2: I haven't watched yet, but he always comes across very
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  Speaker 2: like extra theatrical in the little clips I've seen, and
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  Speaker 2: I wonder if it's if there's like a similar situation
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  Speaker 2: going on there because I haven't seen the show, so
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  Speaker 2: I don't.
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  Speaker 1: Know if it's like that or if he's just goofy
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: like mikey Day and Is It Cake, which has a
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: holiday four part series which was delightful. I watched that.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: I watched Dancing with finished Dancing with the Stars, I
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: finished Vox Macana. All of those are great, highly recommend.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: How emotional did you get for Vox Makana?
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: Not too bad?
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: Okay? Okay?
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: And Critical Role just released the Twelve Days of Grog
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Miss Little music video, which is hilarious.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: I do not know about this, but I will be
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: checking it out after the record.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: Share with you. I started watching Chaos, which is the
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: got canceled after one season Jeff Bloom play on Greek mythology.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: Mythology set in modern day, an alternate version of modern
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: day Greece.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, the first episode was delightful. The rest of
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: it is still very good, but has gotten much much darker.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I only saw the first one. I remember, Oh,
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: why can't I remember the actress's name? She played Cassandra
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: and Chaos. She was Rose in Doctor.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Who Oh, Billy Piper.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: Billy Piper. I remember. I remember seeing her and thinking, oh,
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: this was not the kind of character I was expecting
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: her to play.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so like again, I think it's really great.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: I love the play that they're doing. It just it
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: gets very dark, but if you think about it real
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: Greek mythology, it's incredibly dark, very true, incredibly dark. But
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: I'm enjoying that. I just that's that's a preface. I
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: realized that, you know, I'm part of the problem because
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: I didn't watch it when it first came out, But
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: they also didn't advertise it for it, like, the advertising
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: doesn't match the show's tone to me.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think the advertising was there to try
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: and intrigue people, but the downside of that was it
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: didn't give you an accurate representation of what the show
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: was like. So then when people did tune in, they
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: were like, oh, this isn't what I was expecting, and
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: then they bounced yeah.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: And then I watched a whole bunch of wicked TikTok
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: and through that learned about Swept Away, and then immediately
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: learned that it's closing next week, which is sad.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Swept Away, that's a from what I understand,
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: that's a pretty emotionally intense show.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: Which is probably why it's closing and hasn't got found
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: its huge audience. But they've their TikTok game is delightful.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: So you haven't seen Wicked, You've just seen a lot
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: of Wicked clips, Yeah, like or like people doing the
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: loathing dance over and over again.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: Yes, I had one of my house guests because we
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: had a couple of teenagers with us wanted to see
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: it and we just couldn't find time to fit in
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: a two and a half hour movie.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Film.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do intend to see it, and I do
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: intend to see Red Ones. Still, it just hasn't happened yet.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: But yes, I I too have tried to learn the
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: Christopher Scott Loathing dance and dancing through life because he
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: is more like that. Honestly, the choreography is what has
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: made me excited for the movie. I like, I've not
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: seen the entire play. I've seen some like slime tutorials,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: and I've not read the book. But I am, you know,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: very familiar with the story. But Christopher Scott, so I
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: understand where part two is gonna go. Christopher Scott's choreography
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: is so inspired and perfect for each of the characters.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: That it's just it's it's incredibly athletic too, like the ensemble.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: When I watched I saw. I haven't seen the film.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: I've seen the stage show multiple times. I don't know that.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: I like, I don't feel a strong draw to see
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: the movie, which people will tell me I'm crazy for that,
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: because everyone who all of our friends who have seen
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: it have raved about it. But I don't know. It
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: just hasn't really like, it hasn't inspired me to go
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: make time and see it in the theater. I probably will,
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: but like, I don't feel that draw. But I will
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: say that the bits I have seen of people doing
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: that choreography, I have been so impressed with the athleticism
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: required because like this is I watched that and I'm
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: just like man to think of how many takes they
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: must have had to do and how exhausting that looks.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: It's phenomenal that I mean, much like Beetlejuice when I
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: went to see it on Broadway. That is kind of
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: what's drawing me to see the movie. It wasn't the story.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: I like the Wizard of Oz and the Wicked story
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: is just fine, although you know, a little a little
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: bittersweet from my liking makes sense, But yeah, the choreography
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: being so athletics, so inspired, the fact that so many
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: of the actors did their own stunts. Uh, because they did.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Cynthia Evo did most of her own stunts.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she was. She was singing defying gravity while in
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: a harness being flung around the soundstage.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And Jonathan Bailey, I think, is a guy who
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: plays Fiero. He might have gotten that name wrong from Richerton.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: He got strapped into a device and sings while going
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: upside down and then right side up. Like, Yeah, that
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: takes a lot of add muscles. That's hard.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, they from a from a performance standpoint, it's
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: absolutely incredible. I just I don't know. Maybe maybe I
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: would really dig it, but I almost feel like I've
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: grown out of Wicked. So this happens to me with
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: musicals all the time, where I will go through a
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: phase where I really like a musical and then at
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: some point it's usually very organic, so I can't point
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: to a single like instance or time or whatever, but
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: at some point I'll just be like, yeah, I used
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: to like that, but I don't really care for it anymore.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: So like Phantom would be an example where I loved
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: it when I was a kid, I can barely stomach
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: it now. Lame is another example. There's a show that
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: I loved as a teenager and then as an adult,
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: I find it very tiresome. But like like Wicked kind
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: of falls into that category too. Like I loved Wicked
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: when I first saw it, and I still like some
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: of the songs, But I don't know, I don't know
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: that I would actually even go see a stage show
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: version of it again now unless it was like with
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: people I knew who were going to be really hyped
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: for it, and then I'm really seeing it so I
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: can observe their reactions more than the show.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I get that, you know, Rent, I never
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: grew into.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: But oh my god, Rent, No, Rent can go okay,
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: this is a family show. Rent, Rent can go flip itself?
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean again, I I you know, I had
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: an interesting childhood. I started working full time pretty early
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: so and going to school full time, but my choice.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: But you know, and as an artist, I'm like, you can.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: You can pay your rent and still do your art well.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: And I also felt that that Benny, up until the
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: point where he he puts Mimi in a terrible position,
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: until he does that, Benny's actually the good guy in
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: that show.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, a lot of a lot of people I
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: know feel that way. A lot of artists I know
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: honestly feel that way, and that's in no way to
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: I know that paying right right now, especially right now,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: is exceptionally hard. So this is not making light of
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: artists who do.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Struggle, but at least some of the characters in that
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: show appear to be coming from money, and that like
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: part of their self identity is that they have thrown
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: off the shackles of mom and dad, who, by the way,
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: as the show goes on, they leave messages that make
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: it sound like they just love and support their kids. Oh,
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: screw you, mom and Dad. And I'm like, hey, I
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: know people who actually had horrible childhoods and really serious
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: family trauma. So for this show to be like, all
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: these artists are really self righteous and they don't want
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: to pay rent, and they're real mad at mom and dad,
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: who appear to only want the best for them, I'm like,
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: screw you.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: I Also, I'm also one of the few people where
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: my favorite song from Rent is Seasons of Love.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Oh gosh, oh, I hate that song. No, my favorite.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: My favorite is one song Glory, which is a song
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: about writing a song except the song that the guy
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: writes ends up not being nearly as good as the
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: song about writing the song. Yeah, yeah, it might as
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: well have been tribute Tenacious D. All Right, well, let
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: me talk a little bit about the stuff I saw. Yes,
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: I saw Heredic, which is the thriller slash horror movie
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: that Hugh Grant was in. Hugh Grant plays a character
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: who has expressed interest in the Church of Latter day Saints,
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: and two female missionaries go to call on him in
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: an effort to convert him to the Church of Mormon,
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: and then ends up being that the two women are
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: they discover that they're being held against their will. They
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: don't know it at first, they just get uneasy. They
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: try to leave and find that they can't, and then
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: Hugh Grant goes on to mansplain religion to them for
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: the next hour and a half while they try to
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: figure out a way to escape it. Actually, like, I
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: really like this movie. It's gonna sound like I Yeah,
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: it's gonna sound like I didn't because I've got I've
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: got a lot of critical things to say, But I
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: actually really liked it, and I love Hugh Grant's performance.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: I thought he was perfect but I also recognize things
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: that I do in Hugh Grant's character, and it made
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: me feel real bad about myself.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: So, like, one of the things he does is he
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: explains things through analogies, and so do I like tech stuff.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: If you listen to tech stuff, you've heard me explain
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: things through analogies. Heck, if you've listened long enough, you've
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: heard the same analogy used like twenty times. But Hugh
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: Grant does it where he explains the concept using analogies,
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: and he explains the exact same concept using two different analogies,
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: but it's the exact same thing. Like in one he's
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: talking about how he's essentially talking about how religions are
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: all copies off of older religions essentially, So like he
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: does this one way by comparing Judaism, Christianity, and then
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: the Church of Latter day Saints with different versions of monopoly, right,
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Like he does that, but he also talks about he
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: plays the air that I breathed by the Hollies. All
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: I need is the air that breathe that song, and
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: he says, you've heard this even if you don't know,
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: you've heard it, because it's the same chord progression used
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: in Radiohead's Creep, and in fact, the Hollies or members
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: of the Hollies sued Radiohead for copyright infringement and ultimately
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: were added on to the writing credits for Creep. Then
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: he says, and then oh, I can't remember who it was,
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: but someone else made a song. It was a much
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: more recent artist, which is why I don't know, because
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: I'm an old man and I'm out of touch. But
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: much more recent artists made a song that also has
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: the same chord progression, and Radiohead sued her, which is
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: funny because Radiohead had already been sued by the Hollies.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: So I don't know if it's this artist. I think,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Was it Dosha Cat who made an entire album that
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: is sampling other people's famous works?
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: No, I think, But it turns out like there's tons
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: of videos online about this particular like legal case, this
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: interesting legal case of the Radiohead ends up suing this
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: other artist for copyrighted in fringement, which is interesting because
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: Radiohead itself had been sued for that exact same thing
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: by the Hollies, and there are lots of other songs
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: that have the same chord progression by.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: The way, Dua Lipa does have the remix album, but
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: I don't see Radiohead on the list.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's this was not a remix. This was
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: a new original song, but it had the same not
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: just the same chord progression, but a very same similar
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: melodic line, like her melodic line sounds very similar to
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: Radioheads creep. So anyway, Herodic's great. I highly recommend it.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: The ending is somewhat enigmatic, like it's kind of hard
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: to say exactly what happens by the end of it,
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: but I think that's fine because that's the way a
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: lot of horror slash thrillers end. Like there's still questions. No,
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's too there's some stuff in it
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: that you would probably hide your eyes when it happens.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: There's some icky stuff in there. Not a lot, but
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: there's some. I don't think it's too scary for you.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: I thought it was interesting, and I thought it also
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: was a great film showing how scary it is to
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: be a woman in the presence of a man. Okay, right,
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: like to me like that because Hugh Grant, like at
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: first is coming across as maybe a little sinister because
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: strange man around women, but mostly harmless, and that that
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: dial starts to move slowly as he has this conversation
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: with the two young women. Also, the two young women
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: both the actors were former Church of Latter Day Saints members.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Interesting.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so definitely recommend it. I thought it was fascinating.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: The theater I went to was it wasn't full, but
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: there were quite a few other people there, and it
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: was a smaller theater. It was like the tiniest of
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: the theater because all the other theaters were given over
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: to Wicked at that point.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm still happy to see theaters fill back
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: up a little bit.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be talking about that in thirty seconds or less.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: And the other the other thing I've been keeping up
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: with is what we do in the Shadows and watching
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: their final season and a much easier to do now
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: that I've got Hulu. But finally New Girl. Yeah, okay,
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: well it's on the list, but the list wait till
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: we get to our what's coming out in twenty twenty
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: five list. Yeah, so what we do in the Shadows?
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: You know what, I'll say this, I like, I've enjoyed
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: the episodes I've watched, but I don't feel that the
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: ones I've seen have been quite as strong as previous seasons.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: But I hear that there's an episode I haven't seen
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: yet that is among the series' best episodes total, So
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: I look forward to seeing that once I get to it.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I need. I need to catch up on
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: what we do in the Shadows. It's I have to
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: be in the right mood for that kind of humor
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: because sometimes it's very clever and sometimes it's a little blue.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: But also it's it's a little dry for Tony, it
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: doesn't really grab him. So it's one of the shows
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: I have to watch on my own.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Becca and I like, that's one of the shows that
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: I'm not allowed to watch unless Becca's there. Unless I'm
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: watching old episodes that we've already seen, that's okay, but
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: I can't watch anything new.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: I also watched because we put up our Christmas tree
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: a couple days ago, we watched Emma Otter's joke Band Christmas.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a classic. So let me ask you, this
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: was Kermit in it or not?
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: Oh wow, yeah, because there are a lot of cuts
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: of him and Otter where they cut Kermit out, And
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: I always complain about this because in the process of
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: cutting out Kermit, I think it was a thing where
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: it was a rights issue, right, like the rights to
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: emit Otter went to one company and Kermit and the
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Muppets went to a different company, So you couldn't have
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Kermit up here in it is my guess, I mean,
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: who knows. But for the longest time there was a
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: cut of im at order where there's a joke that
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: depends upon a specific line being said, but because Kermit
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: was in the background, they would cut that line, but
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: they kept the reaction of another character to that line,
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: so it made no sense. Which is where Emmett and
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: his mom are in the row boat and Missus Fox
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: is being super snooty to them, and Emmitt's mom is
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: trying to say something to missus Fox, and Missus Fox
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: has already stopped listening, and she's walking away, and she's say,
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: if you would just walk off the dock, you know,
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: like she's just saying, like I say, go go take
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: a long walk off a short peer essentially, and then
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: one of the other characters like, hey, that's telling her Alice, Well,
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: they cut out the part where she says walk off
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: the dock, and they kept that that's telling her, Alice,
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: but that's telling her what she literally didn't say anything.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I love that.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: I love that special though. It's it's a special place
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: in my heart.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: I do too. Sadly, we watched it right after National
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Lampoon's Christmas vacation. I've never been a National Lampoon fan myself. Yeah,
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: I just never. I never watched it growing up, but
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: it is It's like Tony's one of Tony's get get
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: in the Holiday spirit shows because he did watch it
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: growing up, and it's it's fine enough, not everything ages
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: super well in it, but it is a little bit
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: of a whiplash to go from that to emmett Otter.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because em Otter is like sincere to a fault.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah. The River Bottom Nightmare Gang is about
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: as edgy as they get. Yeah, it's funny to hear,
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: like it's essentially the voice of Fozzy the Bear coming
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: out of the leader of that group, and it's so
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: weird to see Fozzy the Bear as a heavy I mean,
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: it's not Fozzy the Bear, but it's it's Frank Oz's voice.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: But yeah, especially if you are at any point distracted
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: and just listening to it for sure.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, there we go. That's what we've watched. And
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: now that we're almost forty minutes into our episode, we
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: can talk about thirty seconds or less.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: Well, this part will be only a few minutes. So yeah,
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: I start, Oh yeah, I'm gonna watch Skeleton Crew this weekend.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: It's go happen. I say that because my first story
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: is about the Mandalorian. They're releasing a four K Ultra
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: high definition physical version of it, or they just have.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: They did on December third, and one of the things
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: they include is a tribute to Carl Weathers, who was
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: in it as he passed away. So that's pretty cool.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: You can watch a little bit of it on Collider's website.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: I love when streaming shows get a physical release because
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: that way you aren't beholden to the streaming service keeping
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: it for you to enjoy it for years to come.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: So this is pretty cool.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: And we can call that foreshadowing because my first story
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: is that Warner Brothers Discovery continues to twist the knife
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: on fans as we learned about cartoon series that will
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: be leaving the streaming service Max next year. Those shows
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: include ed Ed and Eddie the twenty three eighteen Titans series,
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: Green Lantern Animated series, the twenty eleven Loony Tunes show,
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy, and Static Shock.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: They're all scheduled to get dumped once again. Streaming services
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: giveth and they taketh away.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: In a bit of whiplash like you could get in
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: a women's wrestling show. Betty Gilpin is going from cartoons
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: to Glow. Is taking over for Cole Escalat in O
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: Mary on Broadway, which is a very comedic story from
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: the viewpoint of Mary Top Lincoln. Betty Gilpin was on
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Glow and Missus Davis and she will be doing the
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: role January twenty first, twenty twenty five through March sixteenth,
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: and then somebody else will be taking over, probably because
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: they're actually going through June and Darry cool Well.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Character actor extraordinaire Walton Goggins recently shared a picture of
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: him in the makeup chair from the second season of Fallout.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: Goggins plays the character of the Ghoul. Presumably he spends
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: an awful lot of time in that chair, but he
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: very clearly, through the use of some very gruff language,
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: shared that he wouldn't have it any other way now,
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: because this is a family show. I will not quote him,
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: but I will paraphrase him, and he said, golly, it's
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: nice to be back.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: I am so excited. I loved the first season. I
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: can't wait for season two. See something I didn't love
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: as much but a lot of people did was season
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: one of Wednesday on Netflix. But season two has wrapped.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: We've gotten some first images from it, and interestingly, Jenna Ortega,
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: who plays Wednesday, has taken over some producer type roles,
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: so she's rewriting lines and adjusting the story how she
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: thinks fits her character. Some of the things that they've
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: done is they've made it a little darker for season two,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: leaning a little bit more into the horror, and they've
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: gotten rid of any romantic love interest for Wednesday, which
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: is kind of cool.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she doesn't need it well. Paget Brewster will be
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: starring in a sci fi mystery podcast series in the Audible.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: It's called The Signal, which interestingly is also the title
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: of a horror film I was an extra in, but
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: this series is not related to that movie. Instead, it's
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: about a mystery surrounding disappearing data from space telescopes. And
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: what might be the cause, and it almost like a
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: pretty cool idea with lots of conspiracy theory stuff going on.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: It'll be interesting to listen to Paget play a serious
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: character and not a socialite who consistently pronounces words in
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: very weird ways.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: It'll it'll be weird but fun. The creators of Evangelian
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: and I think it's pronounced fully coolly fl cl are
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: coming out with a new Gundam anime called It's spelled
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: gq You you you you you u X.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm just thinking about how I would try
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: and pronounce that.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: It's pronounced the gee quacks g quacks qu But it's yeah.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: It's about these teenagers in a high school who live
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: in outer space and do like these clan fights in
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: mecha suits. I will say one of the tip I've
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: had some of my friends say that there's not a
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: lot that really harkens to Evangelian, But the character designer
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: for this new one from g Quax is from Evangelian,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: and I can tell because the mech looks very similar
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: to an evasuit. And then also one of the main
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: characters looks very much like Asuka from Evangelian but I
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: think it looks really cute.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: Well, there's a new poster for the third season of
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: the Wheel of Time series. But since I've never read
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: those books, nor have I watched the series, I don't
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: understand the significance. So I'm just gonna describe it to you.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: So there's a guy with really close cropped hair, and
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: he's carrying a woman through a desert landscape, and there's
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: lots of spears sticking up out of the sand with
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: the pointy bits up in the air, so they clearly
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: weren't thrown because that the pointy bits would be down
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: in the sand. I'm not sure what's going on, but
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: it's a nifty poster.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: Awesome. He also got a new trailer. I watched the
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: first two seasons. I can explain it better than most
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: of my friends and what happened, And I've never read
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: the books. But I also am not like chomping at
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: the bit to c season three, Doctor Who the Christmas
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: Special came out with a trailer. The trailer looks great.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: It's got a lot of fun actors, including Nikola Coughlin
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: in it. It looks kind of like a fun zadied
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: Whibbly wobbly sort of an episode. However, there are some
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you would call them internet trolls,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: because I kind of vaguely had this thought too. There
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: are some people who are like, oh my gosh, the
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: doctor's crying again, because he's cried almost every episode and
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: that makes it lose its poignancy. And I kind of
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: feel the same way. But also, if the actor wants
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: to cry, let him cry. Maybe I'm just jelly.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So this is what you were talking about when
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: we were having that discussion about crying versus trying to
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: look like you're holding back tears. All right, last one,
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: Molana two and Wicked pulled a heck of a cop
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: at the box office this past weekend and had an
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: assist from Gladiator too, which made the Thanksgiving holiday weekend
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: take a really firm one for the film industry, and
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: it gave them something to be thankful for. Domestic revenue
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: topped four hundred and twenty five million dollars that breaks
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: even pre COVID records for the Thanksgiving holiday weekend box
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: office year over year. However, revenues are still down for
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: the film industry. There is some hope that the last
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: push through December will close the gap. Who knows, maybe
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: Craven the Hunter will do it.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I actually got really irritated at a news article
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: online because they were like the they titled it this
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: is clickbaity headlines. I hate they titled it the animation
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: industry is in trouble. But the article was about how
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: well like recent animation stuff has done at the box office,
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: and so I was like, you're just being a butt.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like your story is literally saying the opposite of
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: what your headline claims.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: And then Jenna Ortego walks off the set of Wednesday,
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: and the story was because they've.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: Wrapped Yeah, because if she's stayed there, they'd be like,
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: what's going on? I got nowhere else to go.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: We can't pay you for staying on set when we
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: aren't filming.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Now, this isn't a real house. You need to leave,
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: all right. So now let's talk about some of the
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: stuff that's coming out next year. This is not an
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: exhaustive list. It's a long one, but it doesn't have
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: everything on it. And I just want to get from
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: Ariel what she thinks and whether she's excited or not.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: Some of these are going to be things that will
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: be like a second or third or whatever season of
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: a show, and if you haven't watched them, that's totally legit.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: I think the first one's going to be that case,
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: which is I did these by chronological order, with all
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: the t b D like the ones that haven't yet
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: been slated at the end. So at the beginning. We've
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: got Severance season two on Apple TV that comes out
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: January seventeenth, twenty twenty five.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: I'm excited to watch the first season of that so
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: I can be excited for the second season.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: I loved the show. I loved it. It is weird.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: It is a weird show. It doesn't make a whole
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: lot of sense. If I'm being totally honest. It's got
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: sort of a dreamlike quality to it. And I am
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: so excited to finally see the second season.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: I was super I watched all of legions so I
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: can do weird dream.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: Like Yeah, this one just well, anyway, you'll you'll have
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: to we'll have to talk about it after you've seen
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: it and kind of get your thoughts on it. Okay,
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: how about Your Friendly neighborhood spider Man, which comes out
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: January twenty ninth, twenty twenty five. This is an animated series.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, very much. I have live. Unlike a lot
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: of series where the ogs were more my thing, Spider
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: Man is one where the more stuff they come out
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: with the better.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: Again, yeah, animated, as I understand it this version. Spider
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: Man's mentor is Norman Osborne in this one. It's like
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: an alternate because one of the multiverse kind of things.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: Which that's an interesting take, all right. How about Captain
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: America Brave New World comes out Valentine's Day?
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: Well, talk about the second trailer. I want to be
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: excited about it. The tonal shift, even within the trailer
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: kind of is jarring to me.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: I'm excited about it because it's making me think Captain
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: America The Winter Soldier like. It's given me feels that
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: are similar to what that movie was all about. And
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: that's my That's still I think my favorite. That might
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: still be my favorite Marvel film. I'd really have to
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: think about it, but it might be still my favorite.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: So I'm hopeful that this will be in that same category.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: How about Paddington in Peru also comes out Valentine's.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: Day, Yes, but I won't see it in theaters.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: Okay, so then we know that if you're going to
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: a movie on Valentine's Day, it's going to be Captain America.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: Okay, so oh, most definitely, if I go to a
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: movie on Valentine's Day, it's going to be Captain America.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: That feels so romantic.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, You're going to just be looking at at
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: Captain America and the Red Hulk going kiss, kiss kiss.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: I guess that's the problem for me is the first
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: half of the trailer. We'll talk about it now because
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: you asked that'll cut back on later stuff. The first
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: half of the trailer feels more like Jack Ryan, and
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: then the second half feels like they threw in a
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: third act giant villain again.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: Which could be the case. Like we've talked about this
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: a lot about how antagonists and villains in Marvel have
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: been consistently one of their weakest efforts. Right, There's only
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: a few villains who have really stood apart and like
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: kill My being one of them, for example, But a
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: lot of the villains end up being essentially a copy
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: of whoever the hero is but bad. How about the
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: Snow White live action film which comes out March twenty First,
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: we have a trailer about this too that we'll talk about.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll just say no, I'm not excited about that.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: We too want to talk about the trailer.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: I will also say no, I'm not excited, and yes,
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: we will talk about this, because why are you making
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: new songs? All right?
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: No, that's that's not my problem with it.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: But also yes, it's it's just one of many new
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: problems I have with it. But honestly, one of my
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: problems not the casting. That's not my issue. Well maybe
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: maybe Galgadot for the Evil Queen, but that's that's not
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: our here there. Okay, how about Daredevil Born Again that
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: comes out March twenty. Okay, you're excited for that one? Yes, gottcha.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: Even the bad seasons of Daredevil I enjoyed on Netflix.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I still need to watch season three. I
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: realize I had watched the first two, but I never
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: watched the third one, so I need to do that.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: So Daredevil, Oh sorry, not Daredevil, Deadpool and Wolverine. The
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: spoiler if you haven't watched it yet, tune out for
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: the next ten seconds. I think did better with elektra
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: than season three of Daredevil, but that's okay.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: All right, well, all right, how about a Minecraft movie
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: April fourth, twenty twenty five.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: Now we'll talk about that trailer too, But now I'm
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: not super.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is more than that was the no answers
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: are giving you prequel or a prelude to our discussion
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: about these trailers when we get into them. All right,
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: how about and or season two April twenty second.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: I have to finish season one.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: I haven't watched it, so I got burnt out on
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: Star Wars.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: Later in the season, it does get better as things
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: start to move, Like there was one or two episodes
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: on these are really good, and now I'm like, eh,
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: I forgot that I need to finish. I was like,
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: I'm five episodes in and I'm done now, No, I
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: thought I was done. If I was done with it,
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: I'd be like, hey, cot there, yeah, okay.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: How about Thunderbolts May fifth? Eh, really, I might be
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: a little marveled out, that's fair. That's how I am
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: with Star Wars. But I say Thunderbolts I felt was
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: one of the stronger Like the most recent Thunderbolts trailer,
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: I feel is one of the stronger trailers that Marvel
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: has put out recently I felt I do feel met
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: about a different Marvel property that's on this list.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, so when Marvel and Dizzy brought out the
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: trailer of all the Marvel stuff coming out, I was
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: pretty excited about a lot of it. Thunderbolts looks fine.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: I love much of the casting. I just the story
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: hasn't grabbed me yet, and I'm sure, like Wicked and
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: many other things, once I watch it, I will quite
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: enjoy it.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Well how about the live action Lelo
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: and Stitch which comes out May.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: Yes? Interesting, Yeah, I really changed my tune on this one.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think my tune. My tune is still is
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: still the meh, But I mean.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's necessary, but I think it'll it'll
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: land better for me than a lot of the live
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: action action.
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, because like I am really not excited about
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: live action Mowana, let me tell you I'm not.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: But the little the actor, the actor who plays Lelo
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: is so precociously cool.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, maybe I just need to take another look
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: at the trailer and have my heart melt like honestly.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: She's not in the teaser, she's it's interviews.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: I've seen on some gotcha, Yeah, because the teasers just
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: him smashing a sand castle, right, yeah, And of course,
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: like Stitch in the live action Lelo and Stitch looks
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: more or less like Stitch from the animated because I
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: mean he's a CGI character. He's just a CGI version
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: of an animated character.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: So yeah, but I well, we can talk about it
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: now and take it out of our lineup if you want.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: It's in our lineup. Okay, So the leload Stitches or
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: he just he smashes a sand castle that looks like
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: the Disney Castle and then he licks the screen. I
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: think it works because I'm going to leave it in
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: our lineup for show notes, but we can skip it
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: when we get there. I think it works because Stitch
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: is not a lion or a poodle or a human
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: being that has to realistically evoke realism. It's it's already
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: a made up creature. So yeah, I think that hit
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: him and CGI works a heck of a lot better
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: than a lot of their other stuff.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: Right where you talk about the live action Lion King
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: and you're like, what's live action about this? Shot? It?
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: You shot it against actual settings, but all the characters
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: are computer animated.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: And maybe because maybe because I haven't seen Stitch interact
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: with people, this is the reason. But it's not giving
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: me Uncanny Valley again, because what is a stitch actually
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: supposed to look like?
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be the question will be how realistic does
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: that interaction look once we get to that those clips,
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: because like, like I think back to who framed Roger
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: Rabbit and it was phenomenal, what a good job they
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: did making the rabbit appear to have a physical presence
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: in the environment. But then there are other ones where
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: like it's human beings interacting with cartoons and you never
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: get the sense that these two things were literally in
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: the same space at the same time.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, heck, half the time it's a superhero jumping up
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: a building wall and it doesn't look like he's actually
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: interacting with a building wall.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: Craven oh yeah, oh yeah. Or the end of every
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: Marvel movie, right like once you get to the big
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: fight at the end, it just becomes a PlayStation game. Yeah,
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: all right, Well, how about this one Mission Impossible the
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: final Reckoning comes up May twenty third. Yeah, same, I
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: haven't seen the other ones.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen like two mission impossibles, not the first two.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: I've seen the first one, and I've seen one of
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: the brad Bird ones, which I thought was quite good.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: But I do feel that all the Mission Impossible movies
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: typically have the same plot, which is, someone else, either
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: within our own organization or a similar US organization, is
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: trying to kill us. That's who the bad guy is.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: It's our own side spoiler. That's like for every mission,
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: to the point where you're like, why do we even
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: have these organizations? All they're doing is trying to kill
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: each other. How about Karate Kid Legends?
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: Ralph Maccio's in that one.
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: Even if I in, so is Shiaki Chan. Even if
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: I weren't excited about this, I would have to be
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: excited about this. But I am genuinely excited about it.
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: Okay, well that made sense. How about how about Alio
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: the next Pixar film June thirteenth.
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: I think it looks really cute.
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: It does look really cute. That's the one where a
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: little kid gets abducted by aliens who then mistakenly believe
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: him to be a representative of all of Earth.
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: I shared the trailer with one of my friends and
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: they said, oh, that could be irritating or upsetting or
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: done poorly if they don't lean on something the right way.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: And I don't know what they were talking about, because
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: it just looks adorable to me.
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe they're just talking about how child abduction in
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: general is a tough Maybe. I'm I'm like, I've seen
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: so many movies that start with a kid getting accidentally
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: snatched up, and I'm like, that's like a standard of
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: the Navigator. Yeah, yeah, I drawn to this all right.
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: How about How to Train Your Dragon the live action
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: film in June thirteenth.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: It looks for a shot for shot remake. It looks
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: beauty again. It looks beautifully done in a way that
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: it doesn't give me too much Uncanny Valley, and we
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: do get to see the people and the dragons interact.
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: I think the casting is exceptional, don't. I'm torn on
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: this one because I think it looks really pretty and
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: I think that everybody's investment and love for the property
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: that is involved in it really helps me like that
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: that provides excitement, right, But yeah, I like the original movie,
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: but I've seen the original movie.
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: So yeah, this doesn't look like it does anything new
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: with the material. Like you said, it looks it looks
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: shot for shot the same. And that's the issue I have.
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: It's like, why would I see Gus Van santz Psycho film,
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: which is a shot for shot remake of the Hitchcock film.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: I could just watch the Hitchcock film.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, like again, maybe that's the first trailer. Maybe
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: the first trailer is to bring in the people who
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: love the original property. You know a lot of kids
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: will see that and go I love How to Train
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: Your Dragon, my nieces and my niece and nephews, for example.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: Maybe the second trailer will show that they've brought something
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: new in.
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think maybe the second trailer will convince people
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: to buy ticket to Orlando's Epic Universe so they can
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: go ride all the How to Train Your Dragon ride. There.
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: There's a water ride in Universal does water ride's the best?
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: There's a water ride, there's a roller coaster, and there's
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: a drag a flying dragon ride.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: There's also a dragon drone which is really cool. Yeah,
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: it doesn't break.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: Down, y'all. I gotta tell you, I'm looking forward to
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: going to Epic Universe as long as I can avoid
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: the Harry Potter stuff.
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, Amen, All right.
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: How about twenty eight years later June twentieth zombie movie.
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, I liked twenty eight Days and twenty I
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: liked twenty eight Days Later a lot because I thought
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: it was more suspenseful than horrific for the most part.
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: Really really scary movie though.
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, really scary, but the kind of scary that I
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: can do.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: Also, that was the movie that introduced me to Killian Murphy,
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: and holy cow, that guy is a phenomenal actor.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: Really is. Wasn't Christopher Ergleston also in that?
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: He was in Children of Men? The movie that you
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: love so much.
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: Was Christopher Egleston and Children of Men? Yeah, I have
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: blocked that out of my memory. Hold on, he was,
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: like I thought he was in either twenty seven, twenty
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: eight days or twenty eight weeks later.
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: Now he might be in He might be in twenty
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: eight weeks later.
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: I have to.
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: I'm wrong though. I'm wrong though, because I'm mixing. I'm
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: mixing him up with Clive Owen.
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: So okay, yeah, I would saying he was not in
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: twenty he was not in Children of Men? He was, however,
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: in twenty eight Days Later?
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: Was he was he the soldier?
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Okay, this is the reason where
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: this is where we once again gently remind our listeners
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: that I did have a near stroke this year and
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: my brains are all messed up.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: No, that's look, I have no excuse, and I'm just
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: as bad. Yeah. I like twenty eight days later. I
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: think I enjoyed twenty eight weeks later, but I don't
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: remember much about it, so I haven't seen enough about
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: twenty eight years later. But if it's as good as
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: the first two, I will enjoy it.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: Cool. How about iron Heart? This is the other Marvel
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: Disney Plus series about Rary Williams.
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what.
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: If I were to tell you Sasha Baron Cohen is
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: in this series, and he's rumored to play a certain
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: character who's been teased in two other Disney Plus series
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: and became an obsessive part of fandom, and maybe that's
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: who he's playing.
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: He's playing.
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: Mephisto.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: He's playing magical mister Mistopheles.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: That's the rumor is he's Mephisto, but there's no there's
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: no confirmation on that. I think also it would be
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: weird that that would be iron Heart where he shows
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: up as Mephisto.
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: I think that would be good casting from a fisto.
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: I don't like Borat, but he was really good in Limis.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: But I again weird for Ironheart. I think the actress
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: is fine in that I think I think that that
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: character development was so rushed in Black Panther two, which
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: was I didn't dislike Black Panther two. I'm in the
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: minority of that. I thought it was a perfectly fine movie.
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: I just I felt like it wasn't the strongest introduction
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: for the character. So they've got a little bit of
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: ground to recover.
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, especially since it's been so long since Wakanda Forever.
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: Right Like, if Ironheart had come out six months nine
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: months after Wakanda Forever, then that might have been really
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: great timing. But this, this feels like they've lost a
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: lot of momentum.
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: Honestly, I think it, and I realized that this maybe
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: couldn't have happened, But I think iron not should have
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: come out beforehand.
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe, because that way you wouldn't be introducing a
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: brand new hero character at the same time you're introducing
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: a new antagonist and also having to establish a new
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: Black Panther. All right, Well, how about Megan two point
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: zero June twenty seventh. Oh, come on, not even if
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: she does another viral TikTok dance.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: I that's the only thing I've seen of Meghan.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really the only thing worth seeing a Meghan
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: in my opinion, I've seen the movie. I'm like, this
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: is fine. It's a it's a very by the numbers
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: horror movie. Like it doesn't do anything surprising that dance,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: which by the way, makes no sense in the context
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: of the movie. There's no reason for her to do it, Like,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: it literally makes no sense. It's just done to be
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: a marketing thing. But it was the most effective moment
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: in that film.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: There are other movies about Ai that hit a similar
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: vein that I have been more excited for. Can I
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: name any of them at this exact moment?
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: And no. If you want to see a movie that
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: has a very similar energy to Megan but I think
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: is a better movie, go see Annabelle okay or Abigail
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: Abigail's whichever one's thought about the little girl who's a vampire.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's Abigail's.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: Annabel's the doll. Annabel's the doll. See here's the thing, guys.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: Earlier this year, I don't know if you know this,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: but I had my brain strampled.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: John, you already told us that.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: Shoot, well here's the reason I keep telling you that.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: So earlier this year, I had my brain scrambled.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: Okay, a little bit of ASMR that people probably will hate.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: You've already told us that. Fair enough.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: No, it was funny because I was watching After Midnight
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: last night with Oscar Montoya and I can't remember her name,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: and I can't remember Chris Flumming, and one of the
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: opening remarks was it was an old episode. One of
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: the opening remarks was about how you don't want They
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: were talking about Elon Musk's androids.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the robots, Yeah, the robots.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, And they were talking about how like you
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: don't want kids to become attached to that, and they
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: used Megan as a reference, and I'm like, no, no,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: I didn't watch Megan, but I did really get attached
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: to the Electric Grandmother.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: So, which, by the way, still to me is a
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: creepy little made for TV movie.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: It is. It is heartfelt but also incredibly creepy. Yeah,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: like incredibly it's scary at points.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: Lightly it kind of makes me miss that era where
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: children's programming could be kind of scary at times, Like
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: I like, I like children's programming that has a bit
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: of an edge and doesn't treat children like they are
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: precious little fabrige eggs and if you do anything that
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: is remotely tense, there will they'll they'll just crumble into
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: a billion pieces. Because I'm proof that doesn't happen.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: It was. It was scary at points because you didn't
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: know what was going to happen, and also like there
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: were some some sad bits too, but it wasn't sinister ever.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: No, the unsettling, I think is a good word for
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: some of it. Yeah. That was one of my favorite
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: made for TV movies as a kid. Well, okay, let's
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: get back to our list. How about Jurassic World Rebirth
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: on July second.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I feel like I need to watch the.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: First one first, don't you mean the first few? Yeah?
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: I have more than one Jurassic worlds. Yes, there's like three.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: So I thought Rebirth was the cartoon about the kids
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: who got left on the island.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: And this is Jurassic World. Rebirth is a new live
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: action Jurassic World movie. Yeah.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: Nope, I take it back. Nope.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm same here, all right. How about Superman July eleventh, Yes, yeah, tentative,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: Yes for me. I mean, obviously we haven't seen any
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: trailers or anything, but I trust James Gunn, so I do.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: I it'll be interesting because uh Snyder's version in Man
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: of Steel was this nice guy who kind of fell
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: into the cynicism of the world, right, which is not
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: super Superman. James Gunn still has a cynical world, but
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: he wants Superman to be the hero. I think the
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: cast is phenomenal. They are introducing a lot of characters,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: which I felt like in Black Adam and Suicide Squad
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: was a little rough, but James Gunn has done that
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: well before. And then there are personal reasons I can't
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: talk about that. I want to see it.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: So so Ariel knows people who are in the movie,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: is what she said. Okay, so probably the I mean, yes,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: that's what it means.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, I certainly know in the movie. Because we
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: live in Atlanta, I know a lot of actors.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: She may know victims three through seventeen. We don't know.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: That is entirely possible.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not saying that she knows Superman's best buddy
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: or anything. I don't.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: I don't and if I did, I wouldn't know.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: And you know, as much as I advocated for Timblet
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: to be cast as Crypto, it didn't happen. So he's
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: not Superman's dog.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: I wanted to be Lex Luthor, but you have to
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: shave your head and I refuse.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and plus, it was conflicting your desire to be
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: the thing, which.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: Is a totally different I would rather be the thing.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: Which which we already know you're not. So yeah, all right.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: How about how about the Smurfs movie comes out July eighteenth? Okay,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: how about how about the Fantastic Four First Steps? That's
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: July twenty fifth. By the way, how about same for
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: both smurf I don't care about this smurst movie. I
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: obviously am very curious about the Fantastic Four, even though
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: it's gonna have like multiverse energy going on. We already
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: know that because it's set in a alternate version of
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: Earth from the rest of the Marvel films. Presumably they
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: get pulled over into the main version of the Marvel
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: Earth by the end of it. Maybe that's what their
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: first steps are. It's their first steps into the.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: New I love the pleasant Ville vibes that they're toying with.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I can't wait to see a trailer. Yeah,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: is what comes down to. How about the Naked Gun reboot?
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: When leam Neeson on August first.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: Hmm, undecided, fair enough. I like, I was never a
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: huge fun of the naked fan of the Naked Gun movies.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: There there is a low level of Hey, I know
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: this is happening before other people, before it's made the
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: news channels. It makes me a little bit excited about it.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: So I I loved a Police Squad, which was the
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: TV series that inspired that that came out before Naked Gun.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: Did same characters, same team that made it. That series
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: to me was brilliant. It also didn't last very long
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: at all. There's like, I don't know, like six episodes
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: or something. I don't know how I feel about this.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: Then again, Leslie Nielsen was known as a dramatic actor
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: rather than a comedic actor before he started doing stuff
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: like Police Squad and Make a Gun an Airplane. So
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: maybe maybe it'll be great, but I'll I'll need to
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: see more before I can make a call. Meanwhile, Ariel's
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: seeing that I'm being beamed into utter space because sunlight.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: Sunlight is coming through my window.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: It's fine, you're You're about to become the thing, and
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be incredibly jealous.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: I thought I was becoming like a jj Abrams Star
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: Trek movie from Lenz Flair.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, maybe are you made of red matter?
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, who knows what? How how about Eyes of Wakanda,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: this is the animated series on Disney Plus. Okay, that's
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: August sixth when that comes out. How about Marvel Zombies,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: which comes out October third?
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: Undecided?
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: I'm very excited for Marvel Zombies.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: It's the two Marvel Zombies episodes we've gotten within what
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: If have been very good. Yeah, I think it's two,
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: but but I don't know if I need an entire
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: series of it fair enough, howeverriendly.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: How about tron Aries, which is supposed to come out
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: October tenth me I'm curious. It's been enough time since
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: Tron Legacy that I've forgotten how boring that movie is
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: that I might be able to be able to watch it.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: I love moments in tron Legacy. There are moments in
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: that movie that are some of my favorite imagery, and
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: like Michael Shehan's performance as like the club owner in
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: Tron Legacy is amazing, very David Bowie love that, But
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: then the rest of that movie is just kind of
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, the original Tron is also a bit of
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: a slog if we're being honest.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, so the problem is I saw
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: Tron Legacy. Well, first of all, it was over ten
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: years ago, but I saw it the night before I
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: got on a Joco cruise, so it kind of got overshadowed.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: Ah, gotcha, how about get back to my list? Predator
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: bad Lands November seven.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: Sure, I still have to see Prey, but yeah, yeah.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: I need to see Prey too. Honestly, there are more
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: Predator movies that I have not seen than there are
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: that I have seen, because I've only seen the first
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: two and I've only seen the second one once.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: They do not all hold up at all. But Pray
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: apparently was very good. Or Eat Love Predator, is it right?
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: Or Poka Predator yeah, which sounds like a game you
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: find at a carnival that you should not play. Hey,
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: you want to come play Poka Predator? You know what?
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: I like my limbs where they are, I will stay away.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: I'm good.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: How about Wicked Part two November twenty First, I know.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: More than I was, but still less than to see
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: Wicked Part one, just because I know how it kind
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: of ends.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: Also, I mean, we've talked about this. I've talked about
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: this times. If you are familiar with the musical, there
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: is no denying that all the real bangers, the really
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: memorable songs are all on the front half of Wicked.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: There's that love songs in the second.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: Half, Yeah, that no one remembers the name of except
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: for like Diehard theater kids.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: It's a good song, though good.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: But it doesn't it doesn't have the stickiness of like
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: popular or low or what is this feeling? Or dancing
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: through life?
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: So the problem is that spoiler again for people who
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: listen who haven't read the book, the book has a
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: very sad ending.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: The book is far more cynical than the musical is.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: The musical still doesn't have the happiest of endings in
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: my opinion, And there's one character that doesn't have a
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: happy ending who is one of my more favorite characters.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: If you're talking about the sister, we know she doesn't
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: have a happy ending. She's killed by a house dropped
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: on her.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about bach.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: Oh no, his his ending's fine. We know what happens
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: to him at the end of Wizard of Oz. He's good,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: is he though? Yeah, yeah, he's fine. He's fine. It's
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: not happy, but okay, I mean better than the alternative? Uh?
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: True?
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: That is true. How about Zuotopia two, which comes out
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: November twenty sixth, Not interested? Wow, that was quick.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: I liked the first one. I don't need a second one.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: I just rewatched the first one a couple of weeks ago.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: I was on the Disney Cruise and I watched it
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: while on the Disney Cruise, And yeah, that movie is.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: That movie has got a lot of cute parts in
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: it still kind of a weird like message going on
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: through the whole thing. It flips around a lot. It
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: makes me wonder what the point of Zootopia two will be.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I just personally didn't like I liked
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: the characters, but I didn't connect with any of them
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: enough to want to know where I went from there.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, at least it's not a movie about the
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: sloth character, because that would last seventeen hours. All right.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: How about the wonder Man series, which comes out Okay,
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: you're interested in that, Yes, even though it's not Nathan
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: Fillion playing the main character.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: Oh more, because it's not Nathan Phillian playing the no
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: shade to Nathan Fillion, but uh yeah, I like. I
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: like when they bring in not as used actors.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the there is. There is some early footage stuff
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: for this. We also get the return of Ben Kingsley
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: as Trevor Slattery, the character from Iron Man.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and also from Shaunch.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: And Shaun che Yeah. So he's like, I wish that
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: Madison would become the new Trevor right and start showing
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: up in More. Like you just get Madison with two
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: inins and a y, but it's not where you think
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: showing up and like all sorts of stuff. So here's
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: hoping that she does. Yeah, I'm holding out hope. All right.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: How about Avatar Fire and Ash December nineteenth. No, Yeah,
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: have you seen any of the Avatar movies?
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: I saw the first one a whole bunch because I
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: saw it with multiple people.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: Huh.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: I love the flights of passage righte Animal Kingdom. I
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: just reaffirmed that last month.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: That's the closest I've come to seeing an Avatar movie
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: is the Flights of Passage. Right, I haven't seen any
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: of the Avatar movies. Such a good ride. The ride
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: is very well done, but I feel absolutely no connection
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: with the environment or the characters, like none of them
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: mean anything to me. Okay, we have now reached into
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: the section where I've got some series, but they aren't
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: specifically slated yet, so some of them may get slipped
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: into late twenty twenty five, maybe even twenty twenty six.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: But here we go. Stranger Thing season five, Yes, cool,
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: I still haven't seen anything after the first season. Black
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: Mirror season seven.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: Okay, I haven't seen anything past the second episode, and
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: I skipped the first.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that first episode is a doozy Okay, No, I
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: don't recommend it. It really upset me. All right. Silo
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: season two.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: I haven't watched season one.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: I hear it's good, but I haven't watched it either.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: Sandman season two No, No, okay, Sandman, I fell off
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: of I didn't finish it. I should finish it. I
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: watched probably six or seven episodes, but I didn't get
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: all the way through the first season.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: There were two episodes I absolutely loved, and I think
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: book has both kind of dealt with death the character, yeah,
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: who is by far the strongest character in the series.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's same is true in the comic book, by
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: the way.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and then and then I liked, but I
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: liked Dead Boy Detectives better.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: Okay, how about Fallout season two?
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: Right, very excited for that one, especially if they end
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: up going to New Vegas. That would be great. All right,
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: Wednesday season two, maybe, maybe that's fair. Last of Us
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: season two, Yes, this one's a tough one for me now.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: Yes, No, I love the first season exception of that
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: one episode so much.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: Yes, the cannibal episode, that's the one that you had
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: trouble with, Yeah, which is understandable. There's not just cannibalism,
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: but also like sexual assault. Yeah, spoiler alert if you
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: haven't seen The Last of U season one. That's a great,
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: great series, Like it is heavy as hell, but the
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: there were some incredible surprises in that show that still,
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: to me mark like a high watermark for television as
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: an art form that I don't think most other shows
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: even come close to.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: I fully agree, And at least season one put in
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: enough moments of human connection that really really one gave
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: you a chance to breathe within the series and also
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: really made you more invested in the story and the
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: characters than some other post apocalyptic shows have done.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: Totally okay, And finally, we have Welcome to Derry, which
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: would be a Stephen King mini series that explores the
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: history of the town Dry which is the setting for it.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: I really liked season one of Castle Rock, so.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: Yes, interesting. I don't know that I care to learn
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: anything more about the history of penny Wise. I think
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: I'm cool.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't penny Wise prequel I am not into,
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: but I really liked Castle Rock, so if they could
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: do something similar, I'd be for it.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Castle Rock For those who do not know, Castle
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: Rock was a fictional town in Stephen King's writings, and
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: I say was because famously in his novel Needful Things,
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: he blowed it up real good and on like he
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: was like destroying the town that he had been using
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: as a setting for multiple books. I want to say
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: Koo Joe was set in Castle Rock, and several other
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: stories and novels were set there. But yeah, Needful Things,
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: the town destroys itself. Spoiler. If you haven't read Needful Things,
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: a book that's like forty years old. But yeah, interesting,
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I guess I'll have to wait a
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: little bit longer to see more about Welcome to Darry
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: before I make a determination about whether or not I
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: want to see it. All right, those are all the
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: series and movies that I had made note of. Again,
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: not an exhaustive list. There are other ones out there
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: that didn't touch on, but just to kind of get
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: a temperature check of where we are. The biggest feeling
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: I came away with is, holy crap, a lot of
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: stuff is coming out next year.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I got to catch up on a lot
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: of stuff.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: Still, I know it's kind of like it kind of
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: takes a little steam out of my engine, if I'm
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: being honest, because I'm just like, oh my gosh, look
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: at all the things I need. It's a great problem
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: to have. Look at all the entertainment I have to
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: get through.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, No, I love it, you know, from an
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: acting standpoint, obviously, I love that there's a lot of stuff.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: I I guess this kind of ages me, but I
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: miss the era of like new show season.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: Like in September or whatever.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, or where everything had a time slot so you
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: didn't you could make time for more things.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like there is something to say. I mean, honestly,
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: there's some shows that have chosen to publish week to
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: week that I got kind of into the habit of
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: watching them when they were coming out as if it
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: were broadcast television. Agatha All Along was like that for me,
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: Like I was watching that essentially at nine pm Eastern
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: when as soon as it went live.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I have friends who hate that because they
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: consume media in a bingeful way, and I understand that.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: And you know, if a show doesn't get finished, so
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: they'd watch an episode or two like it forget about
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: it because they liked bin shows, and then the show
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: would get canceled because.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: They because they because they didn't bother to watch the
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: show that they loved, and they killed it, is what
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: you're saying.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because they forgot about it and then they watched
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: it after that month window to determine whether a show's
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: going to succeed or not, and I've done that too,
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: So this is not shade to any of them. It's
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: just again why the streaming models are still struggling to
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: find their footing.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: I tried to do that with New Girl, but they
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: kept making them I know. All right, Well, let's talk
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: about some of the stuff that we have in our
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: actual lineup now, some of which we've already touched on.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: But first up is, they did release the first eight
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: minutes of Craven the Hunter. That's part of the Spider
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: Man Extended Cinematic Universe. It is also, you know, a
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: movie that Ariel and I I have both been rather
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: skeptical about that. We like the people who are in it,
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: we like the people who are involved with it, but
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: and it didn't. It wasn't coming across as cringey as
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: Madam Webb or Morbius, but it also didn't particularly look great.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: Did those first eight minutes change your mind in any way?
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: I was originally going to watch the first eight minutes
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: at two time speed for comedy sake.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: So that you could watch the first four minutes.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't. I did slow it down. It was
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: better than the stuff I've seen from Morbus and Madam Webb.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: I don't understand why Aaron Taylor Johnson took his shirt off.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: In the very cold to show to show his physique.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: Obviously obviously like there's no there's no in story explanation.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: The story is entirely we have to show how jacked
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: this guy got.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: For the part, It's fine, it felt the first state
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: minutes felt nondescript.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: I I mean, it's obviously meant to show you, Hey,
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: this guy is has superhuman strength and speed and agility,
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: and he also has some sort of warrior code where
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: he's going after particularly bad people, so much so that
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: he's willing to get himself incarcerated in a maximum security prison.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: And I guess, what's supposed to be Soviet Russia. I mean,
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: maybe it's just supposed to be Russia. But here's what
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: made me laugh, Ariel. So you know, there's this music
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: that starts playing at the beginning of the movie, and
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: it's a male chorus and they're singing in Russian. Right,
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: do you know where that's from? Because I do no.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: So as soon as the music starts, I recognize it
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: and I look at I go, what the heck? They
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: literally just lifted the theme to The Hunt for Red October.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: This is not a Russian hymn. It's not a Russian
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: like a traditional Russian song. This was a song that
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: was composed for the film The Hunt for Red October
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: and played as like it's called the Hymn to the
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: Red October, and I'm like, you took a different movies
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: essentially theme song and put it at the beginning of
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: your movie. And it's not in an attempt to draw
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: any kind of parallel with The Hunt for October. It's
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: literally like it came to me as, Oh, you're too
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: lazy to compose your own music for this, so you
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: took music from what I'm guessing is a better movie.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: I actually love The Hunt for October, so I'm guessing
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: it's better. But yeah, that was the thing. I saw
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: that and it made me laugh because I'm like, really,
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: you took the Hymn to the Red October as you're
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: opening music, and I knew it was all going to
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: be a hard sell from there because I was already
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: they already got on my bad side by reusing music
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: from a different movie. And then I watched the stuff
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: and I thought, this is really standard. Let's show this
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: guy is a total badass by having him take down
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: bad guys. It gave me a lot of like Reacher vibes,
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: that kind of thing without telling us anything useful about
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: the character apart from the fact that he's very strong, fast,
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: and agile, that's it. And then he speaks Russian and yeah.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: So by the end of it, I was just like, eh,
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: none of this has convinced me that this movie's gonna
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: be something I want to watch.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: So I was like, Okay, this is maybe not as
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: cringey as the trailers made it look. And then he
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: started patting the sabertooth tiger, and he did the very
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: best with it that he could.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: Like the dead tiger. It's a tiger rug, it's not
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: an actual tiger.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: It may not have been a saber to it was.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: Just a tiger.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: But yeah, but so yeah, so like again doing the
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: best they can. But that was just so silly to me.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: But you know, if it was meant to be silly,
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: it's completely out of tone of the rest of the scene.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: And then he jumped off of up the building and
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: that felt very fake to me. And then but at
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: that point I was watching at one point two five
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: speed again, and then.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: Well, of course it's going to look fake. Then let
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: me tell you, when it's played at normal speed, it
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: looks totally realistic, does it. No?
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: No, okay, and then he runs into the storm that
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: he planned would be there three days after his incarceration.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and the plane, the plane he's going to escape on,
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: is hidden by this massive snowstorm and the Yeah, you're right,
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: that makes no sense because it is supposed to be
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: three days after he's been taken into custody. Yeah, so
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: so how did he know exactly where a blizzard was
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: going to be that would hide his getaway?
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: Does he also control the elements?
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: Who knows?
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: Anyhow?
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: They haven't defined any of his powers.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: Really anyhow, I handwave a lot of that stuff in
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: other movies. The trailers were so cringey to me that
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: it didn't super save it. I thought the acting was fine.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: I thought the acting was fine.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just like I don't know who cares? Yeah, right,
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: like like it's it's it suffers the same problem that
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: I have with all the other extended Spider Man movies,
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: which is that these characters aren't quite interesting enough on
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: their own without Spider Man to anchor a film, And
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: yet that's what they've tried to do over and over again. Yeah, like, well,
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: you know what, the most interesting thing about Venom is
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: Spider Man? Do you know what the most interesting thing
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: about Craven the Hunter is Spider Man?
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: So the first Venom movie, albeit it could have could
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: have been condensed down the villains. I didn't care about.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: The odd couple relationship between Venom and Eddie Brock was
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: delightful to watch. I didn't need Spider Man for that.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: But it just doesn't make any sense because the whole
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: reason why Venom looks the way Venom does is that
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: Venom bonded first with Peter Parker slash Spider Man and
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: became his symbiote suit, and that without that, there's no
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: reason for Venom to look the way he does.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Like I said, I handwave a lot of stuff.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, well let's move on. We talked about
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: how neither of us are interested in the Snow White
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: live action film. We got a full trailer for that
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: live action film, and yeah, this didn't I mean, if anything,
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 2: this made me more reluctant to see the movie.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Again, it's not the casting. I don't even mind.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: Gal Gudo is the evil Queen. She looks very much
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: in some of the shots like she got pulled directly
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: from the cartoon.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 2: You're right, she looks like the character.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: She I mean, like she is very fair, and the
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: queen was supposed to be a very beautiful person.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: And yes, contestedly, she looks like the character. That looks
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: and acting ability are two different things.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: But I think she's I don't think the trailer probably
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: did her justice. I think she can play a villain
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: just fine. Some of the costuming I felt was felt cheap.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it turns out that if you, if you really faithfully,
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: even with some sub liberties taken, if you faithfully adapt
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: the snow white dress into real world outfits, it does.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: It doesn't look very convincing to me.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: I don't even think it was that faithfully adapted.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: No, they took some liberties, they made the skirt much shorter, gave.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: Her long sleeves. Yeah, yeah, uh it yeah it whatever.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: The biggest problem, Okay, the second biggest problem I have
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: is all of the animals are CGI. And I understand
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: that we're moving away from using live animals in productions
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: because it can be cruel. I don't have a problem
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: with that. They look so CGI. And when you've got
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: real life people and you're trying to make real life
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: animals but you make them look like cartoons, it doesn't
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: work for me. And then why the heck are the
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: dwarfs CGI, and why are they so creepy looking?
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: And why did they put a new song in? That's
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: what really throws me off. I'm like, oh, snow Light,
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: but it's a new song. There are.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: I just I don't feel like a new song is necessary,
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: But I'm fine with it. Honestly, the Dwarves look really bad.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: They look way worse than if they had just tried
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: to authentically recreate the cartoon Dwarves. So there are plenty
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: of people little people. I don't know if that's the
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: correct term.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: That's what I hear a lot of people is the
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: generally accepted.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: Term, Okay, that are actors and would love roles specifically
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: for them.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, there's lots of discussion around
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: that about the use of dwarfs as as like a
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: separate kind of race where instead of it being like
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: dwarf ism. You know. Yeah, there's a whole discussion there
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: that I don't feel qualified to weigh in on.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: But I don't either. It's mainly from watching some people
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: who who fall into that acting category, who are like
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: why in Time Bandits did I was called in to
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: audition for it? I'm a little person and then they
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: decided not to go that route, and I was so
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: excited to have this role.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 2: Well, don't worry about that because that didn't get redecked
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 2: for a second season.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: So again I am I am in no way qualified
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: to talk about that, And if that really is a problem,
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: I understand them shying away from it.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: But well, I also thought that this isn't so much
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 2: an objection as it's just a I don't know if
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: this fits, not that it not that I don't think
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: it's uh, you know, that's ultimately a bad choice. But
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: they make it look like there's a lot more action
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 2: in this film than there was in the original animated movie.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: They I think part of that is to give snow
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: White more agency, to give her more control over her situation,
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 2: and to have her be an active participant in her
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 2: story and not be so passive, which I don't think
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: is a bad thing, right, because in the original story,
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: it's a young woman who gets knocked out by a
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 2: poison apple and then has to wait around until a
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: prince wakes her up again, and she doesn't she doesn't
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: really do much like snow Light doesn't do much at all.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 2: It's all the people around her that do things, so
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 2: I can understand wanting to change that. It just feels
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: like doing that while also trying to be while trying
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: to reference the original animated film. That's where the disconnect
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 2: is for me. I would rather they tell a new
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: version of snow White. They fully separate from the animated style,
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 2: and they you know that you can still have the
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: same you know, plot elements or whatever, but don't feel
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: like you need to make it so that. Oh I
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 2: recognize that because I've seen the animated movie. Leave that
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 2: stuff out, because otherwise it feels like you're trying to
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 2: shoehorn story elements that don't fit in the mold that
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 2: you created when you made the animated film in the
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: first place.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I agree. I I hope that this brings well,
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: the thing is, I don't even like the story of
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: snow White that much. I was like, I hope it
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: brings a new generation of kids to enjoy the movie.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: But I the story, but I don't think it's a
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: great story.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, they'll probably give snow White more agency in
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: this one, but still.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel the same way. And I also, I mean, like,
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: to me, it's just I am so tired. I understand
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: why they're doing it, but I'm so tired of Disney
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 2: going back to releverage ip that they've created in an
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: effort to tap into nostalgia and the love people have
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 2: for classic Disney stuff rather than try to establish new things.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 2: But we've talked about this before about how sometimes Disney
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 2: does try to establish new things and it doesn't always
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 2: work out.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and they aren't always super into nostalgia. Look
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: at Muppets forty.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 2: Okay, so this is you referencing the fact that they're
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: bulldozing the Muppet Vision four D in order to room
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: for Monstropolis at Disney Hollywood Studios.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Which I went to Disney at the beginning
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: of November and almost didn't do Muppets forty, and I
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: almost didn't do Rock and Roller Coaster. I love Rock
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: and Roller Coaster, but one of the people that went
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: with me was like, I don't really like riding it
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: because last time they rode in the very very back,
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: which is a super rough ride.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: But if you ride in the front, it's delightful. So
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: so we rode in the front and it was much better.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: But I'm really glad I did because as soon as
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: we got back. Like the week that we got back,
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: Disney said, hey, we're shutting down Upets forty and rock
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: and Roller Coaster kind of but.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 2: Rock and Roller Coaster is getting a re theme, and
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 2: I mean we've Aerosmith is the band that's currently associated
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 2: with the Rock and Roller Coaster. Aeriel's throwing up the
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 2: shaker right now, which was cut out of that video.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 2: But my favorite thing about that video is that Ken Marino,
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 2: of the state and wet hot American summer and everything,
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 2: he plays the studio engineer. Yeah, in that I am
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 2: so hopeful that they bring Ken Marino back when they
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 2: do the rethving. I would love to see Kid Marino
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 2: back as that character.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: Me me too. When we wrote it, they had it
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: had been broken down for a while, but we were
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: so close to the door and it was the last
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: ride we'd be able to do that night, like the
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: park had closed, exception for the second show of Fantasmic,
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: which happens thirty minutes after the park closed. Don't understand,
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 1: but anyhow, we stayed there because they weren't saying we're
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: shut down for the night. And I'm glad because that
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: means I won't get to write it again. Likely before
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: they reskin it. But ken Marino was just sitting in
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: the in the sound booth working. We didn't get to
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: do the entire show because of the breakdown.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 2: So it's just him like doing busy work and that's it.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so we're all yeling, Hey, thanks for the backstage
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: passes as we walked through.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, ken Marina like, I love I love his work
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 2: in the various things he's in. So yeah, it's fun
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 2: to see. I really hope they bring him back. But yeah,
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 2: the idea is that the Muppets four D is going down.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 2: There's no talk yet specifically about what's going to happen
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 2: with that film, but there has been at least some
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 2: indication that it will live on in some form somehow.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 2: We just don't know how. That's important historically because any
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 2: Disney fan or Muppets fan probably knows this. But that's
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 2: the last project Jim Henson worked on voicing and controlling
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 2: Kermit the Frog before he passed away, So it's the
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 2: last time the original Kermit appears. Every Kermit after that
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 2: is someone else performing the character. And I'm an og
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 2: Kermit guy because I grew up in the seventies and
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 2: eighty so for me, the preservation of that film is
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 2: important because it represents the last time this brilliant puppeteer
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 2: and storyteller played the character he made famous well.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: And then like the building, like the actual theater is
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: a replica of the Muppet Show theater.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 2: Yep, and they even have in theater effects so that
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 2: it's not just the stuff you're watching on screen. You've
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 2: got like Statler and Waldorf who are in the box.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 2: You've got the Swedish chef running the camera as I recall, yeah.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: Yep, and then the projector, and then you've got an
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: actor who comes out as sweet Ems and interacts with you.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: And ye watching that again because I thought, I remember,
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: I'm just kind of walking out with a flashlight and
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: going no. It's such an involved role and the person
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: who did it was so into playing that character. It
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: was at least made me believe they were Yeah.
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I sad to see that go. Uh. I
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 2: understand why they would choose to take it down because
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: every time I've gone in recent years before they announced
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 2: that it was going to go away, it was maybe
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 2: at most a third full, like it was never a
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 2: full house, So I get it, Like if it's not
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 2: going to capacity, then you know, you could dedicate that
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: space to something that could swallow up more people so
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 2: that maybe Slinky Dog Dash isn't a four hour wait.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 2: I love that ride, but only if you don't have
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 2: to wait.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: For it, and only it's not during the day because
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: it's the surface of the sun. There's no shade, and
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: you swallow.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 2: Bugs the It is definitely a hotter ride in the daytime.
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 2: I prefer the nighttime because the lights are really cool.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 2: But yeah, but yeah, they're they're going to They're going
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 2: to reskin Rock and Roller Coaster with the Muppets and
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 2: some unannounced musical partners, like so presumably it's not just
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: going to be Doctor Teeth in the Electric Mayhem. But
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 2: you know, this is something that people have been calling
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 2: for ever since they had the Electric Mayhem Disney Plus series,
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 2: So they would be great to reskin Rock and Roller
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 2: Coaster with the Electric Mayhem. Sounds like they're not going
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 2: to leave it to just the Muppets. There will also
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 2: be other artists involved. Who knows who that'll be, probably
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 2: Chapel Road.
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know, that'd be great. So here's the thing, Like,
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: I am really sad for Muppets forty to go away,
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: because I remember that from my earliest Disney days and
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: it was so it was so cool. It was so cool,
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: and I love the Muppets. That land has been that
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: area has been kind of you know, they close the
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: Muppet Store, which was great. Yeah, I was kind of
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: worried that they're getting rid of Muppets altogether, because like
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: the lab at Epcot also has been greatly diminished.
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 2: They also used to have Doctor Strange, they head of
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 2: Doctor Bunzen, Honey and Beaker moving around for a while
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 2: at Epcot, and that hasn't been I think that.
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: Was a part of the Brew Labs or whatever they are.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: There's still a little bit of Muppet stuff. There are
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: still some videos during the food and Wine festival in there,
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: but yeah, not nearly as much, you know, Pizza Rizzo whatever.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: I know some people love it for nostalgia. It's not good.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 2: It's not good.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 2: Even the Christmas store back over where the Muppets stuff is,
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 2: even that was not always open, at least since the pandemic.
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: So I've seen a lot of stuff on social media
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: talking about how it's it's really like an urban planning error.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: The way the way that people flow around the park
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: with Galaxy's Edge and Toy story Land, and that they
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: kind of because they closed the back lot tours and
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: the Streets of America. It closed off a flow of
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: traffic where normally you would just go through that area. Yeah,
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: now you have to purposefully go to that area. And
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: people saying that if you kept the Muppets four D there,
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: you put the the monsters in the Art of Animation
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: because there's a lot of room back there. Yeah, and
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: then that would can and then that would connect it
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: with Toy.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 2: Storyland, so a Pixar area of the park.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That being that being said, I do hope that
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: re skinning Aerosmith to be Muppets. I hope they bring
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: more Muppet stuff into that and that that revitalizes that area.
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: Maybe they can open the Muppet Store back up over there,
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: because my favorite shirt came from there. Of all times,
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: a couple of them, but but also I gave you
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: one of them you gave to me, and one of
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: them I bought, which was like Beaker. It was just
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: a multi colored beaker ringer tea that I don't have.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: I still have the one you gave me, but I
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: don't have the Beaker tea anymore. And my Muppet My
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: My Animal Drummer shirt with the lightning bolts down the
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: back also came from there. Most of my favorite Disney
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: shirts came from their, exception of one from Indiana Jones.
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: But but Rock and Roller is right next to Haunted Mansion,
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: which did also have a Muppets version. Wasn't there a
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: Muppets Haunted Mansion?
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but what do you mean Rock and Roller coaster
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 2: is next No, it's next to Tower of Terror.
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: Next to Tower of Terror. I'm sorry, I was getting
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: scary build I'm getting my Disney scary buildings mixed up.
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 2: I got confused because Rocket because obviously haunted mansions in
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 2: the Magic Kingdom. That's why I got super confused.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: Well just ignore that last fact. But there should be
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: a Tower of Terror Muppets version. That would be great.
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that would be great. Honestly, like if
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 2: they were to reskin Tower of Terror, because that's what
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 2: they did in Disneyland. They reskinned it to be Guardens
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 2: of the Galaxy. That's what it's, the Guardians of the
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 2: Galaxy right in Disneyland. I think it would be a
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 2: shame to lose the Twilight Zone Tower of Terror stuff,
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 2: but there have been times where they talked about that
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 2: license not being renewed if they were to reskin that
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 2: where they made that a Muppets hotel, and that's the
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 2: reason that the elevator doesn't work so great because it's
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 2: a Muppets hotel, like the Hotel and the Happiness Hotel
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 2: in the Great Muppet Caper. That would be hilarious. Uh
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 2: not that, not that I expect them to do that,
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 2: or if they are doing it, it won't be until
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 2: like twenty thirty five or something. But anyway, that's the
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 2: that's the Muppet stuff. Next up, we have news that
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 2: I thought was really exciting, which is that there's going
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 2: to be a theatrical staged version of Smegadoon. That's the
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 2: Apple TV series that the you know, in which two
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 2: people accidentally get stuck in a world that's a musical
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 2: and it was a very funny show. The first season
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 2: I thought was okay, the second season I thought was
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 2: much better. But there's going to be a stage adaptation
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 2: of Smigadoon and it's going to be up for just
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 2: a short time at the Kennedy Center in d C.
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 2: So it's not going to be there for very long.
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 2: Alex Brightman's going to be in it.
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: He's really good at playing heels that pull it my heartstrings.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: So yeah, not that I'm going to go see Schmigadoon
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: at the Kennedy Center, but he's.
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, DC, It's only an hour flight or so.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's not bad.
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't playing tickets for me my friend
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: are expensive.
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 2: Oh well, I get you. I've been buying tickets recently.
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 2: But then I also am a frequent flyer, like I'm
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 2: a medallion member, so.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not, and like my husband does work
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: in the private jet industry, but we see absolutely no
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: benefit from that. Well, I mean beyond like a regular paycheck.
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 2: Sure, sure, what you mean is no, no, like, like
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 2: you know, it's not like flight benefits. Yeah, you don't
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 2: get to go jetting around the world for free or something.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: But hopefully, like so, I think hopefully it will do
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 1: well and we'll move to New York.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if this ends up getting a really
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 2: good reception, it could be one of those things that
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 2: ultimately gets further development. I wouldn't be surprised if whatever
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 2: formance en ends up being workshopped further because I'm very curious.
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 2: I'm guessing that it'll be some sort of truncated, summarized
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 2: version of the first season, because the second season wouldn't
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 2: make sense without the first season, because it's a continuation. Yeah,
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 2: and that means condensing like a mini series of episodes
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 2: into a like two hour play, which I'm sure you
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 2: could do. Like, there's a lot of stuff in that
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 2: first season that you don't aren't it's not necessary for
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 2: you to have it in your story. But at the
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 2: same time, you're like, there are a lot of fun
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 2: little songs that we're all poking fun at classic you know,
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 2: musical show tunes and and you know, motifs and stuff.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 2: So I am definitely curious. If I get a chance,
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 2: I will go see this. I love DC anyway, so
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 2: it would be nice to be able to do it,
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 2: But I don't know that I'm going to have the time.
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: Our friend Kate is going to go see it. I
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: was trying to talk Tony into going up to DC
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: to watch either, well I don't think either Bigger or
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: drop Out Improv and then maybe doing a double feature,
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: but I don't even know if they overlap, So.
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 2: Next up, we had the Lelo and Stitch teaser, but
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 2: we talked about that already, so I fear we could
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 2: just move on, move on. We got a trailer for
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 2: Dexter Original Sin. I don't know how he's still alive,
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 2: but whatever.
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's a it's a prequel, right.
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 2: Is it? Okay?
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: Well then yeah, did you not watch a trailer?
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 2: I did watch the trailer, but honestly, I wasn't paying
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 2: that much attention.
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, Dexter is like this college boy. It's when
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: he first gets the job.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 2: Oh okay. I saw that Sarah Michelle geller Is is
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 2: guest starring in it, which is exciting to me.
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think the kid that they can't kid, he's
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: a young adult that they cast as Dexter, is a
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: really good casting choice. He looks he evokes the character
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: very much to me. But the further I got into
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: the trailer, the more and more I'm like, Nope, this
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 1: is just still too dark and upsetting to me.
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 2: I mean that's kind of the point. Kind of the point. Yeah,
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 2: it's you don't you don't tell a story that that
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 2: has a serial killer as the protagonist that have it
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 2: be light and fluffy, I.
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: Less believe Christian Slater as John Lithgow.
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 2: Is he playing that character?
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. Well, no, he's not. He's playing
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: Dexter's dad. I just keep thinking I was.
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 2: Wanna say John Lifthgal is not Dexter's dad. John Leftgell
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 2: is another serial killer who uh there's like a whole
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 2: cat and mouse between him and Dexter throughout the whole season.
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 1: He plays Dexter's dad. So that's my bad again. I
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 1: didn't watch much of the series.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 2: I watched some of the original Null Dexter series, but
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 2: I never watched it all the way. I never finished it.
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 2: I didn't actually get to the season where John Lithgal
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 2: was in it, but I heard a lot about it
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 2: and heard that he did an amazing job, which no
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 2: big surprise. John Lithgal is like he's he's a phenomenal actor.
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I almost included something with him and Jeffrey Rush.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: It's a scary movie, but I couldn't get through the
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: trailer because it's it's not it's not like sci fi
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: in anyway. It's just upsetting.
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 2: Well, speaking of upsetting trailers, Minecraft, the actual full.
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: Length Minecraft trailer was better than the teaser. It kind
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: of gives you a really weird story about Steve who
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 1: really wanted to work in the mines as a kid.
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I at that beginning. As soon as I
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 2: saw that, I was like, what can you read the room?
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 2: Because forced child labor in mining operations is a real
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 2: world problem right now?
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but there.
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 2: Are blood diamonds, there are rare minerals where like children
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 2: are being forced, yeah to work in minds, maybe this
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 2: is not the right energy to bring to this this movie, But.
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: The rest of the the rest of the movie just
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 1: looks like how to play Minecraft tutorial that kids would
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: absolutely love, So I'm less against it.
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 2: I got a little confused. Maybe I wasn't paying enough attention. Okay,
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 2: I know I wasn't paying enough attention, But it sounded
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 2: to me like Jason Momoa was saying he was a
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 2: different video game that got pulled in.
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: Wasn't paying attention. I thought he said he was a mailman.
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 2: He's a garbage man. He said something that he says
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 2: something like so and so the garbage Man or whatever,
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 2: Best Game nineteen eighty nine or something like that, And
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 2: I'm like, wait, is he the personification of a different game,
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 2: and somehow he's been pulled into Minecraft. I don't know
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 2: the answer to that.
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 1: I did not hear game.
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 2: It's entirely fairly possible I hallucinated it, let's be fair.
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you know this areal, But earlier
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 2: this year, I had this medical thing where it was
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 2: kind of like a stroke and my brain's got scrambled.
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, no, you you that sounds vaguely familiar.
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 2: Maybe I brought it up once or twice.
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 1: Maybe Garrett the garbage Man Garrison Minecraft wiki.
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 2: I like that you're looking this up. I couldn't be bothered.
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 1: He wears a shirt with characters from the video game
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 1: Hunk City Rampage.
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 2: Maybe that's it. Maybe maybe then there's like a line
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 2: he says about the game Hunk City Rampage.
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: He was a video game World Champion in nineteen eighty nine.
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's what I didn't hear properly, Like I thought
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 2: he was talking about. He was like he had won
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 2: the title of best video Game. Not he was a
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 2: video game player.
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it made no sense. I didn't hear it either,
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 1: and I meant to look it up and I never did,
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 1: which is why I looked it up now, because I
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 1: knew I was not going to remember as soon as
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 1: I get off this microphone.
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say that the bit that I thought
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 2: was cute was the bit with the inder pearl, which
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 2: is a thing that in Minecraft if you find one
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 2: and if you throw it, you will teleport to wherever
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 2: it lands. And they have a cute little little comedic
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 2: site gag with Jason Momoa and that, and I was like, Okay,
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 2: that's cute. None of the rest of this is at
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 2: all making me want to see this movie. It feels
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 2: very cringe to me. But then also, if kids like it,
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 2: that's awesome. But the kids love it.
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's meant for us, but I do
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 1: kind of. I'm like, maybe I'll watch it on two
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 1: time speed when it comes to TV so that I
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 1: can learn how to play Minecraft better. I'm not great
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 1: at it.
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 2: I used to. I'm sure I've told this story before too,
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 2: but I used to do a fundraiser thing for Children's
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 2: Hospital charity for every year where I would do twenty
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 2: four or I think one year it was twenty five
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 2: straight hours of me playing Minecraft and people who donated,
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 2: depending on how much they donated. I would build a
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 2: tribute to them in the Minecraft world nice. And so
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 2: the more you donated, the more precious materials I would
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 2: have to gather in order to build whatever the tribute was.
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 2: And yeah, that was a lot of hard work, but
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 2: it was fun. Next up, we've got the trailer for
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 2: Captain America Brave New World we talked about already, so
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 2: we're going to.
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 1: Move on scoop. Next, we have a trailer for Grand
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 1: Theft Hamlet, which is not at all what I expected
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 1: it to be.
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The story is, these two actors end up forming
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 2: this crazy idea to do a production of Hamlet inside
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 2: Grand Theft Auto Online, up to and including holding auditions
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 2: for characters in Grand Theft Auto Online, and like all
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 2: the it's almost like a documentary about all the trials
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 2: and tribulations involved in making this happen. Not to say
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 2: like this is like a true life documentary kind of thing,
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 2: but it looks delightful.
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: It does, it does. It's not just Hamlet being done
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 1: in Grand Theft Auto. It's yeah, it's fun.
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's also very funny to think about a situation
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 2: where you have people gathered to do auditions and then
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 2: someone just whips out a flamethrower and starts torching everybody else.
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 2: That's one way to get the part.
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a bit in the trailer where one of
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 1: them is like, please don't kill each other, Please don't
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 1: kill the actors.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then we get a trailer that I did
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 2: not get a chance to see. I ran out of
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 2: time before we started recording, which is kind of a
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 2: a crossover to another show that you and I hosted, Yes.
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 1: Which is the entirely, entirely the reason why I include this.
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 1: This is kind of a documentary done by the same
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 1: people who did Quiet on Set, which is a very
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 1: upsetting documentary but needed called Greed and Glitter. The Lisa
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 1: Frank's story and the reason why Jonathan says it ties
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 1: to our other show. We used to do a show
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 1: called Business on the Brink. I think a lot of
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 1: our listeners know that already, but if you didn't, we
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 1: talked about the make or break moments of businesses and
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 1: Lisa Frank at the time and still is kind of
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 1: making a resurgence. So we talked about why Lisa Frank
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 1: kind of went the way of a Dodo for a while,
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 1: and it was because it was a really bad working
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 1: condition apparently, and the trailer for this for this documentary
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 1: kind of confirms that. In fact, one of the people
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 1: they interview goes, it wasn't all rainbows and unicorns.
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So if you don't know who Lisa Frank, like,
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 2: if you don't.
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 1: Know what that is, I guess that's important.
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a brand that you would associate with things
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 2: like trapper Keepers and stuff like that back in the
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 2: eighties and nineties where it was all this lots of
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 2: very colorful gear that I always think of, trapper Keepers,
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 2: that's the one I always do too.
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my go to, yeah, school supplies.
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's all those like glittery, shiny stuff or
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 2: the very very very late eighties early nineties designs like
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 2: those zig zags and blotches and stuff that became became
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 2: like a go to decorative theme for those those years.
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 2: I don't know why, but they did.
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 1: Neon rainbow baby leopards and dolphins and unicorns.
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So that's Lisa Frank. And so this is a
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 2: documentary about that that company and what happened. And so
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 2: just I know you're all out there dying to know. No,
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 2: Ariel and I are not getting residuals for this, even
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 2: though I suspect they listen to our podcast that's what
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 2: them to do the show interesting.
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 1: I doubt it, but that would be really cool if
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 1: they did.
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 2: Honestly, Yeah, I doubt it too, but I like to
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 2: talk a big game.
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is a really interesting story. It's just because
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 1: it's so like surprising, I.
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 2: Guess, yeah, No, it's it's the it's the real story
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 2: behind the scenes is so in conflict with the brand perception,
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 2: right Like that's where that's where the interesting parts come from.
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 2: So well, that's cool. I'm glad that we were able
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 2: to include it. And I'm just going to tell you
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 2: straight up here, Ariel, if people want to reach out
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 2: to us to ask us things about what we've talked
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 2: about today, what they're going to have to do if
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 2: they want me to answer, is they're going to have
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 2: to watch every single movie and series I was quizzing
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 2: you about earlier. And once they can do that and
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 2: prove to me that they have done that, then I'll
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 2: bother answering their question. But if they have other, you know,
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 2: questions that need to be answered and they don't mind
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 2: if it doesn't come from me, what can they do?
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 1: Oh you turn the tables, my friend. They can reach
• 1:56:18
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• 1:56:22
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• 1:56:24
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• 1:56:27
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• 1:56:31
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• 1:56:34
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• 1:56:38
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• 1:56:47
  Speaker 1: do love hearing from you, and sometimes I'm slow to answer.
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 1: If you say anything to Jonathan and he doesn't check it,
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 1: I do tell him and he will sometimes relay messages.
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 2: It depends how grouchy I am that day.
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah it's not you, it's him, but but that's it.
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 1: We really do love hearing from you. We love that
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 1: you listen to our show and talk about geeky things
• 1:57:12
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• 1:57:16
  Speaker 1: been a marathon. I have been Aeriel, I don't have
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 1: something witty.
• 1:57:24
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• 1:57:28
  Speaker 2: this out for a minute and fifty seconds, we will
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 2: hit two ours no, never mind, Strickland.
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, but also you're going to have to edit
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 1: out some of my goops.
• 1:57:43
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