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The Rita Panahi Show | 15 July · The Rita Panahi Show

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  Speaker 1: On scorn Loves Australia.
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  Speaker 2: This is the Wider Panalty Show.
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  Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panety Show coming
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  Speaker 3: up tonight, confronting scenes of violence in Melbourne as Good
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  Speaker 3: Samaritans take action. The panel will be here shortly to
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  Speaker 3: cover the day's top headlines. President Donald Trump Reveal's wife
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  Speaker 3: Milania's key role in America's response to the Russian Ukraine conflict.
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  Speaker 3: Kosha Gator will join me to cover that and much more.
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  Speaker 4: And later in the hour, the brilliant Josh Hammer on
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  Speaker 4: the Jeffrey Epstein saga and why the Trump administration is
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  Speaker 4: going after the former heads of the CIA and FBI,
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  Speaker 4: and we never neglect Lefty's losing it.
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  Speaker 3: Tonight we feature this charming lass.
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  Speaker 5: I just thought of a way to combine my Maggie
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  Speaker 5: heating and my work in the er.
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  Speaker 3: But first, Australia's unions are demanding the Albanezy government introduce
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  Speaker 3: a Julia Gillard style carbon tax. The ACTU claims that
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  Speaker 3: the Gillard Government's policy was actually hugely successful. The ACTU
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  Speaker 3: is also pushing for the Productivity Commission to investigate whether
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  Speaker 3: there are any fossil fuel subsidies that can be eliminated.
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  Speaker 3: It comes as the Australian Chamber of Commerce and Industry
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  Speaker 3: warns the Labor Government that it's two thousand and thirty
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  Speaker 3: five emissions reduction target will undermine productivity, competitiveness and viability.
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  Speaker 3: The group's chief executive, Andrew mckeller told The Australian newspaper
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  Speaker 3: that a twenty thirty five target of between sixty five
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  Speaker 3: to seventy five percent would exceedingly be exceedingly challenging for
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  Speaker 3: the Australian economy. We would see the risk with a
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  Speaker 3: target that was in that range. It would probably entail
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  Speaker 3: significant adjustment costs across the economy. Let's bring in the
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  Speaker 3: panel now, News Corps' RIGHTO Patrick Carline and former Labor
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  Speaker 3: Minister Michael Danby. Michael, I'll start with you. Was the
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  Speaker 3: carbon tax a great success? Will the alban Easy government
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  Speaker 3: seek to reintroduce something like that, perhaps with a new name.
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  Speaker 1: It was not a political success, it was not an
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  Speaker 1: economic success. And I thought unions were in favor of
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  Speaker 1: poor people on lower wages, et cetera. Carbon prices and
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  Speaker 1: the thing they should be thinking about. They should be
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  Speaker 1: thinking about the cost of electricity. We're a country which
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  Speaker 1: exports basically minerals. We're one big mine. We have almost
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  Speaker 1: no manufacturing industry left. These people just seem to be
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  Speaker 1: living in what the Germans call a cloud cuckoo land.
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  Speaker 1: If we put any more prices on our exports, were
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  Speaker 1: already faced the danger of iron ore exports to try
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  Speaker 1: and collapsing. It's a flick of a finger by the Chinese,
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  Speaker 1: or if there's a blockade of Taiwan, but it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: matter to the act you apparently, no, it.
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  Speaker 3: Doesn't seem to And Michael makes an excellent point Patrick,
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  Speaker 3: we are blessed with natural resources in this country. We've
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  Speaker 3: got iron ore, we've got plenty of gas reserves, coal,
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  Speaker 3: and yet we are not taking advantage of that. The
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  Speaker 3: resources are being exported, and our energy costs are some
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  Speaker 3: of the highest in the world.
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  Speaker 2: Look our odds with reality. If you think about it,
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  Speaker 2: you look at India, you look at China, you look
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  Speaker 2: at the US. They're not talking about targets. They're not
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  Speaker 2: fixated with targets. They're dealing with real realities. And as basically,
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  Speaker 2: we have these targets that have no place in terms
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  Speaker 2: of power bills, in terms of what people are paying.
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  Speaker 3: And reliability too. I mean that's what I look at
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  Speaker 3: these targets. Yes, the transition costs are going to be enormous,
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  Speaker 3: but where is the reliability going to come from when
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  Speaker 3: we don't have nuclear power, when we don't have base
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  Speaker 3: load power. Sure, it's the whole thing is usually mad.
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  Speaker 3: I'm convinced we we'll look back in twenty years and
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  Speaker 3: wonder what we were all thinking. Now, let's go to
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  Speaker 3: the dramatic scenes in the Melbourne suburb of Mooney Ponds
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  Speaker 3: after bystanders performed a citizens arrest in two separate incidents
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  Speaker 3: yesterday afternoon. The first incident occurred near Mooney Pon's Central
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  Speaker 3: shopping Center, where a forty four year old essident man
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  Speaker 3: was allegedly stabbed by a fifty five year old man
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  Speaker 3: from Fitzroy who shouted aluakba as bystanders wrestled him to
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  Speaker 3: the ground. According to the police, there is nothing to
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  Speaker 3: indicate that the attack was religiously or politically motivated, and
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  Speaker 3: there was a separate incident also in Mouney Pons. A
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  Speaker 3: knife wielding man was knocked to the ground outside a
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  Speaker 3: Puckle Street cafe after a and a charge with him
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  Speaker 3: with a chair before others joined him to help remove
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  Speaker 3: the knife. Patrick, Welcome to Melbourne. It's going swell down
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  Speaker 3: here absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: Look but you have fire bombings of synagogues one day,
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  Speaker 2: you have kids running through shopping centers with machetes the next,
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  Speaker 2: and it's sort of become normalized, hasn't it. I think
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  Speaker 2: these incidences were an hour apart in many ponds, and
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  Speaker 2: it's sort of You're hearing these stories every day of
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  Speaker 2: angry men, usually with knives, attacking or menacing innocent bystanders,
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  Speaker 2: and there's something wrong with the system. Obviously, there's a
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  Speaker 2: breakdown on whether the courts are too soft. The government
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  Speaker 2: has been too soft for too long on these aggravated burglaries.
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  Speaker 2: Melbourne doesn't feel safe. It's a real problem. People don't
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  Speaker 2: feel safe in Melbourne anymore, and these incidences just make
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  Speaker 2: it worse. They're happening every day.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's not just a breakdown of the justice system.
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  Speaker 3: It seems to be sosietial breakdown as well. Michael law
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  Speaker 3: Order I think is going to be a huge issue
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  Speaker 3: in the next state election and it could perhaps decide
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  Speaker 3: the election if the Libs, I don't know when, so
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  Speaker 3: relentlessly hopeless in every other area.
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  Speaker 1: Let's hope that there's a viable state opposition that stops
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  Speaker 1: debating the price of prosuto. Notice the play on words.
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  Speaker 1: But the serious thing is I don't get the Victoria Police.
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  Speaker 1: I think we haven't noticed Rita that they've gone woke.
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  Speaker 1: How could they not declare some of these incidents terrorist incidents,
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  Speaker 1: some of them religiously motivated. If a bloke, even if
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  Speaker 1: he had a personal beef with someone else, stabs him
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  Speaker 1: and then yells out a laho akbar, I'm telling you,
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  Speaker 1: Commissioner of Police, that is a religiously motivated crime, and
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  Speaker 1: people in Victoria's shouldn't put up with it. Neither should
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  Speaker 1: we put up with mass demonstrations of black clad met
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  Speaker 1: in intimidating Catholics at Saint Patrick's Cathedral by having a disgraceful, intimidy,
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  Speaker 1: intimidatory procession outside and pats. I hope the new laws
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  Speaker 1: preventing people assimilarly outside religious places are applied to that
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  Speaker 1: procession in future years.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Michael, that was very interesting, wasn't it. It got
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  Speaker 3: scandal media coverage. Sky News covered it. But I would
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  Speaker 3: say I think I'm stating the obvious here. If we
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  Speaker 3: had a bunch of religious zealots of any other denomination
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  Speaker 3: gathering outside a mosque, for example, and even if they
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  Speaker 3: were praying sidel me, if they were doing anything, it
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  Speaker 3: would be seen as aggressive, it would be seen as
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  Speaker 3: unacceptable in modern Australia. But when the when.
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  Speaker 4: It's targeted at the Christian faith, well then we ignore it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean it's micro when there's two people who
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  Speaker 1: have a stabbing incident and one of the mills at
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  Speaker 1: allaho Akbar and then there was nearly ten thousand people
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  Speaker 1: all clad in black around Saint Patrick's Cathedral. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: a Christian, I'm not a Catholic, but I found it
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  Speaker 1: so offensive to tolerant Melbourne that used to exists, to
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  Speaker 1: see that kind of intimidation and occupying of other people's faces.
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  Speaker 1: The procession and demonstration law should mean that this can't
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  Speaker 1: happen outside religious places, and I call on the Commissioner
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  Speaker 1: of Police to publicly announce it won't be allowed to
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  Speaker 1: happen next year.
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  Speaker 3: It's been interesting to know if we had a permit
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  Speaker 3: system exactly how that would have gone, whether they would
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  Speaker 3: have declared that part of their protest or march or
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  Speaker 3: religious observance and whether it would have been as seen
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  Speaker 3: as acceptable. Now let's move on to a superb piece.
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  Speaker 3: Nick Kator wrote in The Australian calling for suitability and
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  Speaker 3: loyalty to be restored to the immigration debate after the
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  Speaker 3: government took sixteen months to decide that Palestinian immigrant Maha
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  Speaker 3: al Masri did not meet the character tests for an
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  Speaker 3: Australian visa. Nikata wrote, whatever threat Almasi may or may
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  Speaker 3: not pose, this drawn out debacle serves no one, least
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  Speaker 3: of all the taxpayer who is left funding ation mozzle
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  Speaker 3: born of confused compassion and contempt for due process. The
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  Speaker 3: right to permanent residency is an obligation to respect the
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  Speaker 3: Western values that underpin Australia's extraordinary success. It requires acknowledgment
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  Speaker 3: that you are first and foremost an Australian or desired
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  Speaker 3: to become one. Patrick, We've seen assimilation almost become a
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  Speaker 3: dirty word. We're told that all cultures are equal, but
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  Speaker 3: I would put it to you that's simply a falsehood.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely good on Nick for writing this because it is
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  Speaker 2: a Nogo zone and it has been for so long,
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  Speaker 2: but it needs to be talked about. Some of these
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  Speaker 2: people because of the immigration settings are basically importing hate,
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  Speaker 2: bringing hate into the country. They don't want to be
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  Speaker 2: Australian citizens with Australian values. And as Nick wrote, a
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  Speaker 2: passport basically commands a loyalty. If you want an Australian passport,
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  Speaker 2: you've got to be loyal to Western values. And that's
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  Speaker 2: not happening. And we're seeing it again and again. And
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  Speaker 2: I think that this is a discussion that needs to
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  Speaker 2: be had. It needs to be candid, and it needs
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  Speaker 2: to be honest, because it hasn't been for so long.
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  Speaker 3: No, it hasn't been honest for a long time, Michael.
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  Speaker 3: And the problem is also home grown. We've got so
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  Speaker 3: many people who are born and bred here who are
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  Speaker 3: anti Western values, that are ashamed of Australia, shamed of
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  Speaker 3: Australia's history. And I guess it's hard to have an
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  Speaker 3: obligation on new Australians to be pro Australian values when
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  Speaker 3: so many within this country don't even know what that means.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's a big pushback when councils try
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  Speaker 1: and abolish Australia Day. So you see that there is
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  Speaker 1: still a lot of you know, mild, tolerant, good natured
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  Speaker 1: Australian patterism still around. But the three thousand guards of
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  Speaker 1: visas were all tourist visas reader and once they get here,
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  Speaker 1: I've never heard of tourists being allowed to come from
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  Speaker 1: a war zone. The socialist left Julian Hill gave them
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  Speaker 1: tourists visas and once the year they can all apply
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  Speaker 1: for bridging visas and then basically you can't get them out.
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  Speaker 1: They can eventually after ten years become a permanent Australian citizens.
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  Speaker 1: It's a danger to Australia if people don't have the
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  Speaker 1: same law apply to them. They are applied to all people.
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  Speaker 1: And when we accepted the twelve thousand Christians from Syria
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  Speaker 1: who are in danger from ISIS, AZEO checked all of
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  Speaker 1: their files one by one. They went to Lebanon, they
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  Speaker 1: went to Iraq. They went through these people very carefully
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  Speaker 1: and humanitarian purposes serve, but with safety to Australians who
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  Speaker 1: live there, which should be the watchword of a The
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  Speaker 1: AFP and even the worksters in the Victorian and New
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  Speaker 1: South Wales police forces.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think the Labor government knew precisely what it
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  Speaker 3: was doing in knew those tourism visas were going to
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  Speaker 3: lead to bridging visas and permanent residency for those who
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  Speaker 3: wanted it was an ideological any reason, absolutely, and I
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  Speaker 3: guess said it spoke to their segments of their base. Now,
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  Speaker 3: before you go, I want to ask you about the
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  Speaker 3: Victorian labor government being hauled before the Civil and Administrative
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  Speaker 3: Tribunal by a Jewish community leader who says they have
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  Speaker 3: failed to crack down on anti Semitism. Menicem Walkmeyer says
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  Speaker 3: that the government has enabled breaches of the state's racial
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  Speaker 3: vilification laws and he's seeking a public apology from Premier
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  Speaker 3: just Into Alan for filing the Jewish community in Victoria. Patrick,
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  Speaker 3: I can't say I'm a massive fan of these laws.
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  Speaker 3: I don't like hate speech laws, but there's no denying
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  Speaker 3: the left does love them, and yet when it comes
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  Speaker 3: to the Jewish.
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  Speaker 4: Community, they have failed to uphold them. In fact, in
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  Speaker 4: many ways they haven't just tolerated it, they have promoted
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  Speaker 4: this sort of hatred.
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  Speaker 2: Look, I think part of the problem is the fact
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  Speaker 2: that it's been such an insipid response from Victoria and
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  Speaker 2: federally as well. You compare that to Chris Min's and
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  Speaker 2: New South Wales. He came out very early on. We're
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  Speaker 2: not going to tolerate hatred. I'm going to stamp down
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  Speaker 2: on this. And the problem is in Victoria, that insipidness
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  Speaker 2: is actually in Bolden the extremism that has actually made
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  Speaker 2: it worse than what it was. And you look at
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  Speaker 2: the fire bombing of the synagogue. I think it was
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  Speaker 2: two weeks ago Cinda Allen announced an anti hate task Force,
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  Speaker 2: which on paper sounds like a good thing, but it
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  Speaker 2: actually serves to underline how little had been done up
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  Speaker 2: until now. And it's got worse because so little has
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  Speaker 2: been done.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely, and Michael, I'm really interested in your take on this.
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  Speaker 3: You've been a labor minister, You've observed this, You've observed
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  Speaker 3: the Dan Andrews government, and I would say there was
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  Speaker 3: a shift in how this issue has been handled. Dan Andrews,
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  Speaker 3: whatever you think of him, has always been respectful and
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  Speaker 3: close to the Jewish community. I don't think you can
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  Speaker 3: say the same for just into Alan. Have you judged
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  Speaker 3: her government's response to the rise in anti Semitism?
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  Speaker 1: Well, first, of a woman, Kim Vorsheimer is an honest
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  Speaker 1: Australian who sees exactly what you and Patrick see, and
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  Speaker 1: that is a weakness of the institutions and authorities, a
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  Speaker 1: failure of police and political leadership, particularly here in Victoria,
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  Speaker 1: to wact. So what he's doing is leaning back on
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  Speaker 1: these laws and hoping he can enforce some application of
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  Speaker 1: them via the lots, some of which are debatable to
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  Speaker 1: honest people, like aighteen C. But if he's not only
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  Speaker 1: using eighteen C, is using all kinds of others and
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  Speaker 1: more strength of his arm. As far as I'm concerned,
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  Speaker 1: I'm amazed at the Victorian government. I thought the acting
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  Speaker 1: Premier at least would be able to recognize that terrorist
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  Speaker 1: video that was shown on Sky so extensively last night.
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  Speaker 1: How difficult is it to say that someone who's clad
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  Speaker 1: in a hoodie, using a disembodied voice and threatening to
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  Speaker 1: kill Australian workers at a factory in Glenroy is not
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  Speaker 1: It's not a terrorist incident. I mean, it just shows
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  Speaker 1: you the weak mindedness of someone who is the acting Premier.
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  Speaker 1: When you're thrust into those kind of circumstances and you
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  Speaker 1: see that kind of thing, you need to show leadership
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  Speaker 1: and say no pasaran as they say in Spanish, they
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  Speaker 1: will not pass. And I'll set the Victoria police and
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  Speaker 1: the counter terrorist squad on them, and we'll hunt these
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  Speaker 1: people down. That's what she should have said.
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  Speaker 3: Michael Danby Patrick Carly and thank you both for your time.
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  Speaker 3: Now to the man who wants to be US president,
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  Speaker 3: who wants to position himself as the sensible centrist Democrat,
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  Speaker 3: the same choice among a sea of hard left radicals.
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  Speaker 3: The only problem is, well, he's the current governor of California,
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  Speaker 3: the state that has crystallized for so many Americans. Just
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  Speaker 3: why the modern left is broken. Here is Gavin Newsom.
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  Speaker 3: He's asked about the evil of transitioning in an eight
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  Speaker 3: year old child, and he can't even bring himself to
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  Speaker 3: condemn that. What about for your values? I mean, is
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  Speaker 3: eight years old too young?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah?
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  Speaker 7: I mean, look now that I have a nine year
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  Speaker 7: old just became nine. Come on, man, I get it.
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  Speaker 7: So those are legit. You know, it's interesting, just the
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  Speaker 7: issue of age. I haven't as I and there's someone
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  Speaker 7: that's been so far focused on equality broadly LGBT rates,
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  Speaker 7: particularly gay merriage. The transisue for me is also novel.
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  Speaker 7: It's it's over the last few years. I'm trying to
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  Speaker 7: understand as much as anyone else, whole pronoun thing try
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  Speaker 7: and understand all of that. Well, you know that was
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  Speaker 7: like the hell, I mean, all that stuff, I.
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  Speaker 3: Get it, joining me now Sky and his contributor Kosher
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  Speaker 3: geta Kosher. Like so many who identify as Centrist, he
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  Speaker 3: strikes me as someone who just lacks principles or lacks conviction,
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  Speaker 3: and on an issue like that, how can you not
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  Speaker 3: have a position. I'd almost have more respect for him
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  Speaker 3: if he was just pushing the gender line about you
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  Speaker 3: have to affirm people's gender identities because at least you
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  Speaker 3: believe in something. He knows what transitioning an eight year
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  Speaker 3: old is wrong, but he just does not want to
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  Speaker 3: say that because there's going to be too many of
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  Speaker 3: his supporters who will be upset with that class.
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  Speaker 8: I think you nailed it that in this day and
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  Speaker 8: age that we live in, centrist is like an obfuscation.
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  Speaker 8: You can't be a Centrist on an issue like this
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  Speaker 8: is pretty binary, pretty black and white, pun intended. And
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  Speaker 8: you know he's going on Sean Ryan's podcast. He went
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  Speaker 8: on with Charlie Kirk, who knows he's going to get
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  Speaker 8: asked this question. He's doing that to try and somewhat
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  Speaker 8: appeal to the center right of the country, even though
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  Speaker 8: he'll run back to California and totally own the positions there,
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  Speaker 8: but in this church, he'll do something else. And you
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  Speaker 8: can see he used so many words, so many hand gestures,
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  Speaker 8: and that's all piller filler filler because he was trying
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  Speaker 8: to buy time and obfuskate because he knows the absurdity
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  Speaker 8: of what he's saying, and he was just trying to
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  Speaker 8: run out the clock there on that show and not
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  Speaker 8: admit it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, forget about his words, look at his actions, Look
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  Speaker 3: at the policies. California has has got some of the
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  Speaker 3: the most radical, hard left policies when it comes to
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  Speaker 3: the transgender movement. And I think he just wants to
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  Speaker 3: get credit for going on Charlie Kirk or Sean podcast
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  Speaker 3: because it sets him apart from other Democrats who are
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  Speaker 3: too terrified to do that, or you say, you know
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  Speaker 3: they're white supremacists or Nazis because they don't happen to
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  Speaker 3: be left wing. Now, Gavin Nuism did find the courage
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  Speaker 3: to troll Vice President JD Vance by sharing this video,
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  Speaker 3: and he also posted a rather snarky comment telling JD Vans,
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  Speaker 3: I hope you enjoy your family time. The families, you're
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  Speaker 3: tearing apart, certainly won't. Vance did have this rather superb response.
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  Speaker 3: He simply posted back, had a great time, thanks Kosher.
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  Speaker 3: I've got to say Advance is very good at this
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  Speaker 3: is in fact, I think even better than Donald Trump
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  Speaker 3: at this political warfare. He loves to have a little
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  Speaker 3: bit of conflict with the lefties, and he normally prevails.
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  Speaker 8: He certainly does so disingenuous of Gavin Newsom again because
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  Speaker 8: the Vances are not illegals, like he's conflicting the two
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  Speaker 8: and everybody sees through it. It's easier to show courage
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  Speaker 8: behind a tweet in front of the running which, by
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  Speaker 8: the way, Advance was a former marine, so yeah, exa
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  Speaker 8: regardless of what's in the video, like he can hold
• 20:06
  Speaker 8: his own I'm sure.
• 20:07
  Speaker 9: And Vance is a very good communicator. He's different.
• 20:09
  Speaker 8: I mean, I think Trump is the OG for sure
• 20:11
  Speaker 8: in terms of his effectiveness as a communicator.
• 20:14
  Speaker 9: But in many ways Vans.
• 20:15
  Speaker 8: You know, he's younger, he's clear and sometimes in certain ways,
• 20:19
  Speaker 8: and he enjoys the adversarial aspect and going for the conflict,
• 20:23
  Speaker 8: going for the jugular. But then he also sort of
• 20:25
  Speaker 8: wraps it up in kind of a like a fun,
• 20:28
  Speaker 8: jovial aspect of him. So he's got a lot of
• 20:31
  Speaker 8: good qualities.
• 20:32
  Speaker 9: I think up his sleep and history is rising.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: And that whole video, and it did go viral. Every
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: single lifty account seemed to be publishing it and mocking Vance.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: But I've got to say, I mean, what are they
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: playing at? This is the left who mock toxic masculinity.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: You say, it's a terrible thing, and they seem to
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: be poking fun at him because his running style isn't
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: masculine enough. It's a very good use message that they're
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: out there.
• 21:02
  Speaker 8: It reminds me of during the campaign they tried weird. Yes,
• 21:06
  Speaker 8: he's trying to brand gd Evance is weird and it's
• 21:09
  Speaker 8: sort of boomerang back on him.
• 21:11
  Speaker 9: So I think something similar might happen with this. So
• 21:13
  Speaker 9: it's not going to stick.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: And also he was running to look after his kid.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: His kid was climbing some rocks and he ran to
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: assist his child, So that's very relatable doing that yourself
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: and not having the staff do it. Now, let's have
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: a look at this. Some theatrics from fired State Department employees.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: The Trump administration has reduced the workforce thereby around thirteen hundred,
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: a relatively small drop in the number of workers, and
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: yet the media kosher seemed to give every sacked worker
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: a microphone. Just earlier this month, Microsoft sacked nine thousand employees.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: I don't recall the media giving those people this sort
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: of coverage. Why are these it's public servants being treated
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: like this is something that never happens someone actually being sacked.
• 22:07
  Speaker 8: So theatrical, as you say, And these probably were theater kids,
• 22:10
  Speaker 8: a lot of them who then go off and work
• 22:11
  Speaker 8: in government.
• 22:12
  Speaker 9: And there's this whole narrative.
• 22:14
  Speaker 8: It really is about the theater, you know, the big
• 22:16
  Speaker 8: bad government and the Trump administration and the poor little,
• 22:19
  Speaker 8: honest worker trying to work for America, and they're trying
• 22:21
  Speaker 8: to create this narrative around it. But the numbers, you know,
• 22:25
  Speaker 8: as you say, it's not even half a percentage of
• 22:27
  Speaker 8: the total number of federal government employees, which is something
• 22:30
  Speaker 8: like two point eight million.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 22:31
  Speaker 8: We're gonna be lucky if we even get to single
• 22:34
  Speaker 8: digits and firings because they've been obstructed every step of
• 22:36
  Speaker 8: the way from judicial activism and all the rest of it.
• 22:39
  Speaker 8: Everybody knows the government is too big. Microsoft great example,
• 22:43
  Speaker 8: White collar, you could even go blue collar. And when
• 22:45
  Speaker 8: coal miners were shut down or small businesses went out
• 22:48
  Speaker 8: of business because of the COVID restrictions and everything else,
• 22:50
  Speaker 8: they never shed a tear for those folks. But here
• 22:53
  Speaker 8: suddenly it's tears and microphones in the streets.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and the threat to democracy, like everything is a
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: threat to democracy for the left.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: President Trump has suggested today that First Lady Milania has
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: helped him with Russian President Vladimir Putin, helped remind him
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: that Putin has continually backed out of his promise over
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: a possible peace deal with Ukraine Kosha. The president explained
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: that Milania pointed out Putin's false promises where he's made
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: certain assurances in these phone calls and then he goes
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: and bombs another Ukrainian sight.
• 23:31
  Speaker 8: I think the Millenia reveal was interesting. This is a
• 23:33
  Speaker 8: side note because she's such an enigma. She's very famously private, and.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: He isn't enigma, isn't she. It's part of a child.
• 23:39
  Speaker 9: It really is.
• 23:40
  Speaker 8: Getting his little glimpses of their dinner table conversation about
• 23:43
  Speaker 8: Vitam Putin was interesting.
• 23:45
  Speaker 9: On the topic itself.
• 23:46
  Speaker 8: I think it just reveals you know, Trump really is
• 23:48
  Speaker 8: a consummate pragmatist, realist deal maker. It's not that he's
• 23:52
  Speaker 8: a puppet of Putin, as he's been called, or that
• 23:55
  Speaker 8: he even hates Zelenski. Certainly is not fond of Zelenski,
• 23:58
  Speaker 8: and going into this, I think he was probably more
• 24:01
  Speaker 8: favorably inclined to Putin. But as his drags on, as
• 24:04
  Speaker 8: Putin also continues to strike, his own soldiers are dying
• 24:08
  Speaker 8: Russian soldiers, so many, hundreds of thousands of them, in
• 24:10
  Speaker 8: addition to of course civilians and Ukrainians, he's not happy
• 24:14
  Speaker 8: with it.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: Trump.
• 24:15
  Speaker 8: This is sort of a distraction for him, I think
• 24:17
  Speaker 8: from what he wanted to do with the domestic agenda,
• 24:19
  Speaker 8: and he's one of the only people in the world
• 24:21
  Speaker 8: who can maybe move the needle here in some way,
• 24:23
  Speaker 8: and I think he's just expressing that frustration.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: Well, this is really a blight on his second term,
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: isn't it. He's got so much of what he wanted
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: to do done so quickly, from the border to fantastic
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: economic news. Domestically, he's getting his tariffs in place and
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: getting the revenue there. But he promised to do something
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: about this war and do it quickly and so far
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: has failed to deliver on that.
• 24:50
  Speaker 8: Yeah, the famous line that I can solved this in
• 24:52
  Speaker 8: twenty four hours now that was just rhetoric on the
• 24:54
  Speaker 8: campaign stump, and not everything is in control. But yes,
• 24:58
  Speaker 8: it has dragged on longer than we all would like
• 25:00
  Speaker 8: and probably longer than he thought.
• 25:01
  Speaker 9: Absolutely.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: Now The New York Times has asked an important question
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: of its readers. It's asking, is it time to stop
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: snubbing your right wing family? I mean, really, what a
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: broken publication with even more broken readership, it seems. I
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: don't know, Coach. I think I'd rather be snubbed by
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: these people. We've got enough crazy in our lives and
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: life is too short. I think, what a bizarre thing
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: to be saying. But I think it reflects their readership
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: because so many of them can't cope with friends, family, work,
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: colleagues who may think differently from them.
• 25:40
  Speaker 8: That's so true and such a childish tactic to snub
• 25:44
  Speaker 8: somebody not like you know, I'm going to influence you,
• 25:46
  Speaker 8: or maybe let's disagree to disagree, but I'm going to
• 25:48
  Speaker 8: snub you. And I looked into the author, David Lett.
• 25:51
  Speaker 8: He's one of the former senior speech writers for Obama.
• 25:54
  Speaker 8: Of course, so I was rather surprised when I saw
• 25:56
  Speaker 8: the level of doubt or life there of and as analysis,
• 25:59
  Speaker 8: and the funny thing too is so the tactic snobbing
• 26:01
  Speaker 8: is childish. But also the issue that he really focused
• 26:03
  Speaker 8: in on were the COVID vaccine mandates, which is not
• 26:07
  Speaker 8: the hill to die on because that has totally changed.
• 26:10
  Speaker 8: It's not even left right thing. So many people view
• 26:13
  Speaker 8: that very very skeptically after everything that we were put through,
• 26:16
  Speaker 8: and he was basically going after his sister's younger brother
• 26:19
  Speaker 8: who decided not to take the vaccine, and he used
• 26:21
  Speaker 8: that as the central motif in his article about why
• 26:24
  Speaker 8: you should snob your right wing family member who maybe
• 26:26
  Speaker 8: didn't want to take the vacs.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: I know, it is such a bizarre heel to die on.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: I still think it is a political issue. I think
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: the heart left are still clinging onto those mandates as
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: the right thing to do, even with everything we've learned
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: since then. But wow, yeah, you forget about that, You
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: forget about family members not being invited to Christmas dinners
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: because of the COVID vaccine mandates. Incredible time, Koshergata, thank
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: you so much for your time.
• 26:55
  Speaker 9: Pleasure still to.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: Come Lefties Losing It, plus the latest on thee Epstein
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: Sagon why the Trump administration is going after the former
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: heads of the CIA and FBI. Josh Hammer will be
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: here with the details. Welcome back. It's time for lefty's
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: losing it. Let's see what happened when a lefty losing
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: it decided to confront borders. Tom Homan mistake, big mistake.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: Sit back and enjoy this. You may need a cigarette afterwards.
• 27:36
  Speaker 10: Let's release them in the community. Wait, wait, three or
• 27:40
  Speaker 10: five years, Barney.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Are you an MS thirteen member?
• 27:47
  Speaker 10: Hey, hey, that's okay, that's okay.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: I got a question.
• 27:53
  Speaker 10: No, no, no, I got a question for you. Why
• 27:55
  Speaker 10: don't you come up here and hand me that picture?
• 27:59
  Speaker 10: All right?
• 28:04
  Speaker 11: They got morens like this all the country.
• 28:08
  Speaker 10: This guy, this guy wouldn't North like the circus nation.
• 28:12
  Speaker 11: This guy ain't got the balls to be a nice officer.
• 28:15
  Speaker 11: Do you ever got the ball? Pretty a ball chorger.
• 28:19
  Speaker 11: This guy lives in his mother's basement. The only thing
• 28:23
  Speaker 11: that surprises me. You don't have purple hair and a
• 28:24
  Speaker 11: nose ring. Get out of here, you loser.
• 28:37
  Speaker 9: And very and you're.
• 28:39
  Speaker 10: Such a badass being me off stage in thirteen minutes
• 28:42
  Speaker 10: and fifty seconds. I guarantee you he sits down the peak. Guarantee.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: Ah superb. I just love him, I really do.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: No.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: That is demolish that joker. Perhaps Tom Hoeman could school
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: this next clown who has put together a tutorial of
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: sorts advising people to waste immigration and custom Enforcements time
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: with prank calls and fake tip offs. I'm pretty sure
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: that's a crime.
• 29:18
  Speaker 12: So ICE is a tip line that's available on their website.
• 29:21
  Speaker 12: It's listed right there and you can call it twenty
• 29:24
  Speaker 12: four to seven to report suspicious activity related to illegal immigration.
• 29:29
  Speaker 12: If you manage to get an ICE officer on the phone,
• 29:31
  Speaker 12: you can always just make up a one or two
• 29:32
  Speaker 12: minute scenario of something that never happened that they can
• 29:35
  Speaker 12: look into. However, if you get the voicemail, which is
• 29:38
  Speaker 12: much more common, I recommend leaving a wet, juicy fart
• 29:42
  Speaker 12: sound effect. They also have a hotline that you can text,
• 29:45
  Speaker 12: and I figured out that you can send images to
• 29:48
  Speaker 12: the number.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: They always have those crazy eyes, don't they, And talking
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: about crazy eyes, check out this lady.
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: I just thought of a way to combine my Maggie
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: heating and my work in.
• 30:01
  Speaker 13: The er MAGA supporters are like people who hold onto
• 30:05
  Speaker 13: fireworks too long. You love it until it hurts you,
• 30:11
  Speaker 13: kind of like.
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: You know, you love it until you can't retire until
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: the age of seventies. So see it in the er, folks,
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: when your fingers get blown off, I have a good day.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: Gross, just gross. Now get ready for a Jasmine Crockett extravaganza.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: We featured her before. She says a lot of dumb things,
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: and then there's a whole accent switch up. She can
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: go from prep school to ghetto like this. Kamala has
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: nothing on her. But despite her habit of saying some really,
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: really truly stupid stuff, there is talk of her being
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: the new bright star amongst the Democrats. Perhaps she could
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: lead the Democratic Party into being electable again. Let's have
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: a look at her here, flat out lying saying that
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: the left are not violent at all and the men
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: who wanted to assassinate Donald Trump are actually his supporters.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: That makes perfect sense if you're a moron.
• 31:06
  Speaker 14: Violence doesn't come from Democrats. Just to be clear, I mean,
• 31:10
  Speaker 14: obviously anyone can be a criminal, but it is MAGA.
• 31:14
  Speaker 14: It's specifically magafaction. Like I don't think traditional Republicans are
• 31:20
  Speaker 14: getting engaged in all of this. But like even when
• 31:23
  Speaker 14: we look at and they don't talk about the assassination
• 31:26
  Speaker 14: attempts anymore that took place with Donald Trump. But these
• 31:30
  Speaker 14: these were Trump supporters.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: Right yep. Lies lies, lies, and of course that's the
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: sort of lying that the lunatics at MSNBC just love.
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: Watch this embarrassing exchange between an MSNBC host and a
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: teary Jasmine.
• 31:49
  Speaker 15: That was you and I three years ago. That was
• 31:52
  Speaker 15: your first time on the Katie Fang Show. This is
• 31:54
  Speaker 15: the second to the last episode of the show. Congress Woman,
• 31:57
  Speaker 15: I wanted to thank you for always getting up and
• 31:59
  Speaker 15: early and delivering it. But I also want to say
• 32:01
  Speaker 15: thank you for your continuing support for democracy. It's definitely
• 32:05
  Speaker 15: something that you have made your brand, and it's the
• 32:08
  Speaker 15: integrity that you're bringing and I'm grateful for you always. Well, Missie, Oh,
• 32:21
  Speaker 15: you can't have me crying at the beginning of the show, Jasmine,
• 32:24
  Speaker 15: Congressman Jasmine Crockett, you haven't seen the last of me.
• 32:28
  Speaker 15: Thank you for being here and getting us started today.
• 32:30
  Speaker 15: I always appreciate you.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: Thank you, and here Jasmine Crockett has the nerve the
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: HOODSPA to call other people dumb. Apparently, if you don't
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: vote for the radical Democrats while you're just uneducated, you
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: don't know what you're doing.
• 32:49
  Speaker 16: That's most people voted the wrong way because they were uneducated.
• 32:55
  Speaker 16: And that's not to call them dumb, but literally, life
• 32:58
  Speaker 16: sometimes is life and you're trying to keep a roof
• 33:01
  Speaker 16: over your head, keep food on the table, trying to
• 33:04
  Speaker 16: make sure that your kids have what they need, and
• 33:06
  Speaker 16: so you're not tuned in to the endless news cycle
• 33:09
  Speaker 16: or you don't know what the truth is.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: Y'all need to connect the dots and talking about HOOTZPA.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: Here is Jasmine Crockett claiming that Joe Biden was cognitively sound,
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: nothing wrong with him.
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: It's President Donald Trump's mental acuity that concerns her.
• 33:25
  Speaker 16: Do you have concerns about the President's health and his
• 33:29
  Speaker 16: mental acuity?
• 33:30
  Speaker 13: Now?
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: None, none, No, work.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: I had none.
• 33:32
  Speaker 14: Now, granted I didn't see Joe Biden every single day,
• 33:34
  Speaker 14: but I did have an opportunity to interact.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: With the president.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: I never had a concern.
• 33:40
  Speaker 14: If there's anyone that I am concerned about their mental acuity,
• 33:44
  Speaker 14: it is the current occupant.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: Don't go anywhere Coming up next, why Donald Trump is
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: being urged to sue AOC into bankruptcy. Josh Hammer will
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: have the details. Welcome back. Joining me now is Newsweek's
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: senior editor at Large and Article three Projects Senior Council
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: Josh Hammer. Josh will get to the Jeffrey Epstein fallout shortly,
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: but let's start with Jasmine Crockett. The right think she
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: is a gift, but many on the left see her
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: as the future of the Democratic Party. Could this Texan
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: be a unifying force that makes the Democrats electable again?
• 34:34
  Speaker 17: Reader, The only thing that Jasmine Crockett could possibly unify
• 34:37
  Speaker 17: is large swaths of the United States to utterly despise her,
• 34:41
  Speaker 17: to hold her incomplete and just overwhelming contempt, and for
• 34:45
  Speaker 17: the Democratic Party to do itself into continue irrelevance for
• 34:49
  Speaker 17: the next five to ten years or so. I mean,
• 34:50
  Speaker 17: I mean, this is someone who is completely an utterly
• 34:53
  Speaker 17: unhinged who sentiments and talking points and policy positions and
• 34:57
  Speaker 17: proposals everything that she says on virtually every issue that
• 35:01
  Speaker 17: I have ever heard her open her not particularly well
• 35:04
  Speaker 17: in fore mouth. It is utterly at odds with the
• 35:07
  Speaker 17: Median American I mean, if Democrats have any interest reader,
• 35:10
  Speaker 17: if they have learned anything, if they have learned literally
• 35:13
  Speaker 17: anything from the twenty twenty four election, if they have
• 35:15
  Speaker 17: learned that their base is actually quite out of touch
• 35:18
  Speaker 17: with me American, then Jasmine Crockett does not represent the future.
• 35:22
  Speaker 17: She represents the ash heap of history. But the problem
• 35:24
  Speaker 17: is that Jasmine Crockett is a natural progression of the
• 35:28
  Speaker 17: post two thousand and eight, post Barack Obama Democratic Party. Reading, now,
• 35:31
  Speaker 17: you and I have discussed this. The demolition of Kamala
• 35:34
  Speaker 17: Harris in the twenty twenty four election really should be
• 35:37
  Speaker 17: a very sober moment in intro special for Democrats where
• 35:40
  Speaker 17: they recognize that the moment that this went off the
• 35:42
  Speaker 17: rails was actually, in hindsight two thousand and eight, the
• 35:45
  Speaker 17: entire Obama coalition of DEI, intersectionality, modern leftism has to
• 35:50
  Speaker 17: be discarded. Jasmine Crockett is not the future unless Democrats
• 35:54
  Speaker 17: are suicidal, which actually, frankly, they might be. And you
• 35:57
  Speaker 17: know what, I kind of hope they actually are.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: Well, you can only hope so. But it's incredible her
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: rise in the last what six to twelve months, She's
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: really come from nowhere to be so prominent and right
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: up there with the likes of Bernie Sanders and AOC
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: other sort of far left radicals who seem to be
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: setting the agenda for the left of the moment. Now,
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: let's move on to the issue that will not go away,
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: the Jeffrey Epstein saga. You're one of the conservative commentators
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: who is urging Republicans not to lose faith in the
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: Department of Justice after the decision to close the Epstein investigation.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: Let's hear now from some young conservatives on this issue.
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: And this was recorded after President Trump threw his support
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: behind Attorney General PAMBONDI.
• 36:51
  Speaker 9: I do not agree with the president, likely not agreement.
• 36:53
  Speaker 9: I actually do agree with the president, unfortunately on this one.
• 36:56
  Speaker 9: I don't think I agree with the president. I kind
• 36:58
  Speaker 9: decided to with on Tell on this situation.
• 37:01
  Speaker 17: I do not agree with the president.
• 37:02
  Speaker 6: I think that Pam has brought as secretive energy to
• 37:07
  Speaker 6: the administration and that it is not a good look
• 37:09
  Speaker 6: for the president at all.
• 37:10
  Speaker 9: As much as I like.
• 37:11
  Speaker 12: The President, I do think that that is a little
• 37:13
  Speaker 12: bit of mistrust put into the people.
• 37:16
  Speaker 11: I think there's a lot of instances where the president
• 37:19
  Speaker 11: should just keep his mouth closed and not give out
• 37:21
  Speaker 11: such opinions.
• 37:22
  Speaker 12: She had come out in the past and said that
• 37:25
  Speaker 12: they had thousands of videos they were just waiting to release,
• 37:27
  Speaker 12: and then all of a sudden, now they're saying, yeah,
• 37:30
  Speaker 12: there's nothing. I don't believe that Pam Bondi is being
• 37:33
  Speaker 12: particularly effective in terms of her leadership and governance when
• 37:37
  Speaker 12: it comes to the Epstein files.
• 37:38
  Speaker 6: The women and children who were victims of this entire
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: scandal absolutely deserved the justice.
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: But Josh, you argue that this has been the most
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: conservative Department of Justice in our lifetime, and that Trump
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: is enjoying an incredible winning streak. But as you heard
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: there from those young conservatives, they disagree with the president.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: They have lost faith in the AG. And doesn't this decision, Josh,
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: to abandon the Epstein case tell Americans that the ruling
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: elite remain untouchable, that even the most heinous criminals can
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: be protected. It just seems like justice wasn't delivered here.
• 38:23
  Speaker 17: Well know, those interviews were done at the Turning Point
• 38:25
  Speaker 17: USA Student Action summon in Tampa this past week, and
• 38:28
  Speaker 17: I actually spoke myself. I did a debate on something.
• 38:31
  Speaker 17: You were there, really, Kirky, I was there, so I
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  Speaker 17: saw this myself. I interacted with not necessarily these exact people,
• 38:37
  Speaker 17: but with people at the conference, and the outcry is
• 38:40
  Speaker 17: is absolutely real. So I want to clarify what my
• 38:43
  Speaker 17: stance is not. My stance is not that the Trump
• 38:45
  Speaker 17: administration has done everything in the best possible way. They
• 38:49
  Speaker 17: have not crossed every tea, they have not done every eye.
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  Speaker 17: In particular, it is very difficult. I would actually go
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  Speaker 17: so far as say it is impossible to reconcile what
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  Speaker 17: Pam Bondi said on Fox New Who's Back in February
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  Speaker 17: with what she is now saying. Either the files were
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  Speaker 17: on her desk or they were not. Something is clearly
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  Speaker 17: amiss here, and it has been my contention that President Trump,
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  Speaker 17: specifically himself, should do one of those sit down in
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  Speaker 17: the Oval office at the resolute desk, look right into
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  Speaker 17: the camera and just talk straight to the American people
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  Speaker 17: for fifteen twenty minutes, whoever long it takes, about what
• 39:19
  Speaker 17: the heck happened here. So definitely I share a lot
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  Speaker 17: of these concerns. Rather, my contention, Rita is the following
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  Speaker 17: one that overall, again I'm a lawyer, I follow the
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  Speaker 17: DOJ pretty closely. This has been a very conservative DOJ.
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  Speaker 17: Overall this kerfuffle. Aside the DOJ's assisting Tom Hoeman and
• 39:36
  Speaker 17: Christy Noem when it comes to the largest mass deportation
• 39:39
  Speaker 17: operation in American history, they have won massive cases at
• 39:42
  Speaker 17: the United States Supreme Court, our Solicitor General John Sower
• 39:45
  Speaker 17: ending chemical castration, the sterilization of children. When it comes
• 39:49
  Speaker 17: to so called gender from care, massive massive legal wins
• 39:52
  Speaker 17: there the nation in injunction. A lot is coming directly
• 39:55
  Speaker 17: from the Trump DOJ. I think that Donald Trump is
• 39:58
  Speaker 17: really digging at his heels better for worse, for better
• 40:00
  Speaker 17: or for worse, the President is genuinely digging his heels
• 40:03
  Speaker 17: and read I have it from all my sources imaginable
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  Speaker 17: that Pam Bompy is going precisely nowhere. So given the
• 40:08
  Speaker 17: fact that Donald Trump is mad that this is his movements,
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  Speaker 17: I fully anticipate that his supporters will rally around him
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  Speaker 17: and this story will be forgotten in two three weeks
• 40:17
  Speaker 17: from now. But I'm not saying that's been handled in
• 40:21
  Speaker 17: the best way possible. I want to be very clear
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  Speaker 17: that it's not necessarily my contention.
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  Speaker 3: Now, we learned last week that the FBI is investigating
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: former CIA director John Brennan and former FBI director James
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: Comy for possible false statements to Congress. That's just for starters,
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: I would suggest, And of course, incredibly the left that
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: weaponize the DOJ to persecute their political opponents, they're now
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: playing the victim. Josh Nina Jankowitzer you may remember her.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: She calls herself a expert on disinformation. She was going
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: to be the Biden administration's disinformations are before even they
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: abandoned that plan for being too crazy. Well, josh Nina
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: has a byline at MSNBC these days, and she's arguing
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: that these investigations are politically motivated. She writes, political retribution
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: is being normalized in America. How else can we interpret
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: the news that the Department of Justice as placed former
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: FBI director James Comey INFORMACYIA director John Brennan under criminal investigation.
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: Josh what's your response to these claims from this self
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: styled disinformation expert that this is politically motivated and political
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: persecutions or prosecutions are being normalized.
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  Speaker 17: Reader, My response is very simple, which is that the
• 41:53
  Speaker 17: disinformation operation, speaking of the so called disinformation Zora, that
• 41:57
  Speaker 17: never was the actual disinformation operation that is currently being
• 42:01
  Speaker 17: foisted on the American people through this dim witted idiots who,
• 42:05
  Speaker 17: thank goodness, never got the position that she was trying
• 42:08
  Speaker 17: to get. The actual disinformation operation is to try to
• 42:11
  Speaker 17: bamboozle and gaslight the American people into thinking that the
• 42:14
  Speaker 17: political retribution against the opponents was anything other than what
• 42:19
  Speaker 17: the Merrick Garland DOJ just did to Donald Trump and
• 42:24
  Speaker 17: his whole movement, his whole maga basket of deplorable's movements,
• 42:28
  Speaker 17: what the Democrat lawfare complex has done read over the
• 42:30
  Speaker 17: past few years, we are going to pay the price
• 42:33
  Speaker 17: in this country for years and years, perhaps even decades
• 42:35
  Speaker 17: to come. They have upended every rule. They have set
• 42:38
  Speaker 17: us back hundreds, perhaps thousands of years. The rule of
• 42:41
  Speaker 17: law exists in Western style democracies. It is preserved in
• 42:45
  Speaker 17: the US Constitution to prevent exactly the sort of malfeasance
• 42:49
  Speaker 17: of singling out your top political foe who in this
• 42:52
  Speaker 17: case happened to be a former and now we know,
• 42:54
  Speaker 17: future president of the United States and trying to fabricate
• 42:57
  Speaker 17: all sorts of ridiculous charges jurisdictions trot him out for
• 43:02
  Speaker 17: the mug shot there with Fannie Willis and Fulton County, Georgia.
• 43:05
  Speaker 17: We have seen no justice for these total malcontents whatsoever.
• 43:10
  Speaker 17: Where is the justice for the Democrat law for companies,
• 43:12
  Speaker 17: that is the retribution on political opponents, not this stupid
• 43:17
  Speaker 17: stuff about James Comy and John brandwhich, by the way,
• 43:20
  Speaker 17: we actually have not gotten any justice for Russia Gate
• 43:22
  Speaker 17: to this day at all. All we have is Kevin Kleinsmith,
• 43:27
  Speaker 17: who forged the Pfizer warr into on Michael Flynn and
• 43:29
  Speaker 17: the others back in twenty fifteen. He got a slap
• 43:32
  Speaker 17: on the wrist, He lost his law license for a
• 43:34
  Speaker 17: little bit.
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: That's it.
• 43:35
  Speaker 17: No one has served a single day in jail there.
• 43:37
  Speaker 17: So actually a lot of US Rita want to see
• 43:39
  Speaker 17: justice when it comes to the Russia collusion delusion, and
• 43:42
  Speaker 17: that's been going on for a decade now. If this
• 43:44
  Speaker 17: is what it's going to lead to, then I support
• 43:45
  Speaker 17: it entirely.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: Well, that was going to be my next question, because
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: this just seems to be the tip of the iceberg.
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: The Russian collusion hoax which did so much damage, which
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: was just based on utter nothingness. It was a political
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: campaign that was used to spy on the Trump administration,
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: that was used to really undermine Americans faith in their democracy.
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: There are so many Americans to this day who think
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: Russia influenced or even bought that election. When are we
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: going to see some consequences for people who were complicit
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: in that betrayal? I mean that was I think again,
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: We've seen so many scandals in the last ten years.
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: The president being cognitively impaired would have been probably the
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: top one. But the Russian collusion hoax and the way
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: it undermined the American people's faith in democracy, that's got
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: to be right up there.
• 44:49
  Speaker 17: Oh, it's right near the top of the very worst.
• 44:51
  Speaker 17: By the way, John Brennan, who was involved in the
• 44:53
  Speaker 17: Russia gethoaks at least the Trump DOJ's alleging it, and
• 44:56
  Speaker 17: I certainly myself very much believe that. John Brennan, let's
• 44:59
  Speaker 17: not forget, also affixed his name to the infamous Hunter
• 45:02
  Speaker 17: Biden laptop letter from the fifty one Deep State spook.
• 45:05
  Speaker 17: This letter that came in essentially within hours after the
• 45:09
  Speaker 17: New York Posts having that article about Rudy Giuliani and
• 45:12
  Speaker 17: Delaware at the laptop at Hunter Biden. We all know
• 45:14
  Speaker 17: that story by now. By the way, Rita a very
• 45:17
  Speaker 17: fun forgotten detail of that fifty one deep State spook letter,
• 45:21
  Speaker 17: the letter that had Clapper and Brennan and all the
• 45:23
  Speaker 17: usual old Obama bros sign off and call it Russia disinformation.
• 45:27
  Speaker 17: A very fun detail is that the then Biden Harris
• 45:31
  Speaker 17: campaign staffer who was actually detailed to make that letter
• 45:35
  Speaker 17: happen within twenty four hours was a foreign policy campaign
• 45:38
  Speaker 17: staffer by the name of Anthony Blincoln, the man who
• 45:40
  Speaker 17: would become the United States Secretary of State. So the
• 45:42
  Speaker 17: pieces really do start to all come together here. I mean,
• 45:45
  Speaker 17: this is a really nefarious operation. There Again, I'm hoping
• 45:48
  Speaker 17: that we're going to get some justice. I don't want
• 45:49
  Speaker 17: to mislead the audience, though, I would be pleasantly surprised
• 45:52
  Speaker 17: if there is any subjective justice here. But at this point,
• 45:55
  Speaker 17: rita very sadly, I have myself personally gotten accustomed to
• 45:58
  Speaker 17: simply just not get any kind of justice for someone
• 46:01
  Speaker 17: this country, perhaps even this world's greatest scandals.
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: What about the COVID nineteen lockdowns?
• 46:05
  Speaker 17: Are we going to get any accountability from all the
• 46:07
  Speaker 17: people who have coasted these children years of their lives
• 46:11
  Speaker 17: and the most precious developmental years when it comes to
• 46:13
  Speaker 17: learning and social skills, none of it. So I hate
• 46:15
  Speaker 17: to be a pestimist and the pairer of bad news,
• 46:17
  Speaker 17: but I myself have personally gone accustomed to not getting justice.
• 46:20
  Speaker 17: And when you set expectations low, reader, any kind of
• 46:23
  Speaker 17: justice that ends up being a big one.
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: Now, before you go, Josh, Donald Trump is being urged
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: to sue Alexandria Carzio Cortes into bankruptcy after she posted
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: some highly defametory stuff about him on X. The Democrat
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: congresswoman tweeted this, she said, Wow, who would have thought
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: that electing a rapist would have complicated the release of
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: the Epstein files? Josh, is she really that dim that
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: she doesn't understand that what she tweets can see her suit?
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: She has no immunity on X? Or does she think
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: she's untouchable?
• 47:02
  Speaker 17: Well, you know, let's not forget that people have accused
• 47:04
  Speaker 17: Donald Trump of various forms of rape for many years now.
• 47:08
  Speaker 17: In fact, we actually just had one of Donald Trump's
• 47:11
  Speaker 17: many legal ordeals in New York City pertaining to this
• 47:15
  Speaker 17: alleged rendezvous and a Bergdorf Goodman dressing room off Fifth
• 47:18
  Speaker 17: Avenue in New York City back in the nineteen nineties,
• 47:21
  Speaker 17: and the judge in that case very clearly concluded that
• 47:23
  Speaker 17: there was no rape. There was perhaps some sort of
• 47:27
  Speaker 17: maybe kind of sort of sexual harassment or misty, but
• 47:30
  Speaker 17: there was not anywhere remotely even close to rape. So
• 47:33
  Speaker 17: there's actually been a legal ruling establishing this very recently.
• 47:36
  Speaker 17: So Alexandrew Cozy Cortez is not just wrong, she is
• 47:39
  Speaker 17: absolutely according to a New York court again, just in
• 47:43
  Speaker 17: the past year and a half, two years, she is
• 47:45
  Speaker 17: easily setting herself up for very legitimate defamation. By the way,
• 47:49
  Speaker 17: given Donald Trump's litigious nature, He's nothing if not litigious.
• 47:52
  Speaker 17: We know that about Donald Trump over may decades. Now,
• 47:55
  Speaker 17: how stupid you have to be to put this out there?
• 47:57
  Speaker 17: I mean, like, how dumb do you actually have to be?
• 47:59
  Speaker 17: I mean holding its the truth for a second, Like
• 48:01
  Speaker 17: why would you subject yourself this? Like, you know, the
• 48:03
  Speaker 17: guy loves his lawyers, he loves sending cease and decess letters,
• 48:07
  Speaker 17: he loves kind of luring up there. The guy lives
• 48:10
  Speaker 17: and breathes the legal drama of the courtroom. Why would
• 48:12
  Speaker 17: you do this? I mean it, frankly says more about
• 48:14
  Speaker 17: Alexandria Kazuo. Cortel is utterly appalling stupidity, frankly than anything else.
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, he's had a couple of big wins recently too,
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: hasn't he, Josh with ABC and CBS. So yeah, you
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: probably have an appetite for launching some legal action. But
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: I think she would enjoy the attention as she could
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: play the victim again. The President's coming after me, personally
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: wants to bankrupt me, and it will just give her
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: so much more airtime. Josh Abba, thank you so much
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: for your time tonight.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Mitta.
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: That's it from May. I'll see you tomorrow night at
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: eleven with Douglas Murray. Up next, it's Newsnight.