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Sharri | 9 March · Sharri

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Speaker 1: Live on Sky News.
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Speaker 2: This is Sharry Good Evening. Black rain hails down on
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Speaker 2: Iran after major explosions at their storage depots. I'll show
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Speaker 2: you these apocalyptic images and explain what this oil crisis
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Speaker 2: means for petrol prices here in Australia. In a moment
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Speaker 2: plus grave fears for the Iranian women's soccer team. They've
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Speaker 2: sent an SOS signal and Pennywong now needs to step up.
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Speaker 2: Ray Hadley will rip in a little later. Also tonight,
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Speaker 2: a shocking revelation that a serial killer has been living
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Speaker 2: with too foster the children, those details shortly, and a
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Speaker 2: rare moment of joy after the Bondai massacre. Two first responders,
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Speaker 2: two life savers have now found love. They'll join me
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Speaker 2: live to tell their incredible story. And it's another massive
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Speaker 2: show tonight. Scharen Haskell with why Israel hit Iran's oil supplies?
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Speaker 2: Brown and Bishop, Steve Price, David Pearl and Ray Hardley
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Speaker 2: all Operation Epic Fury now enters its second week. The
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Speaker 2: United States and Israel are winning, but there's a long
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Speaker 2: way to go, and certainly a long way until a
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Speaker 2: more palatable regime is in place, and the impact here
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Speaker 2: in Australia is already being felt with oil prices. For
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Speaker 2: the first time in this war, Israel struck Iran's oil depots,
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Speaker 2: leading to the spectacle of fireballs and black clouds raining
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Speaker 2: down oil on Tehran. Now, as you can see, black
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Speaker 2: rainwater saturated with oil covered the city after four oil
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Speaker 2: storage facilities were hit. Those at the scene have described
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Speaker 2: it as an apocalyptic site and it really is extraordinary
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Speaker 2: and quite eerie to see.
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Speaker 3: It's an absolutely apocalyptic scene here. We've just made it
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Speaker 3: to the Schakran oil depot, which was attacked last night
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Speaker 3: and a massive wave of air strikes. Some of those
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Speaker 3: destroyed storage tanks are still on fire. There's still flames
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Speaker 3: originating from them. You can also see here that the
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Speaker 3: area around here is also completely destroyed. There's people here
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Speaker 3: actually working on this electricity pole to try and get
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Speaker 3: the electricity back. The facility appears to be completely in
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Speaker 3: ruins now after these massive air strikes and again still
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Speaker 3: on fire, still burning.
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Speaker 2: Israel said this was necessary because the fuel is being
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Speaker 2: used for military purposes for the war, and we'll speak
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Speaker 2: to Sharen Haskell, Israel's deputy Foreign minister about that shortly.
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Speaker 2: The bigger issue is that Iran has effectively shut down
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Speaker 2: trade and shipping through the Strait of Hormus, and this
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Speaker 2: will cause the most severe energy crisis since the seventies.
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Speaker 2: This strait and the area between Imman and Iran is
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Speaker 2: the route taken for a fifth of the world's oil
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Speaker 2: and natural gas supplies. There are said to be currently
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Speaker 2: more than a thousand ships waiting to pass with crude,
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Speaker 2: terrified of Iranian missile and drone attacks which will target them.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 2: These are similar tactics to those used by the Hooties
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Speaker 2: in the Red Sea over the past two years. Shutting
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Speaker 2: this straight down threatens the global economy. The United States
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Speaker 2: Energy Secretary Chris Wright says the closure of the strait
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Speaker 2: won't be permanent.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, the plan is to get oil and natural gas
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Speaker 4: and fertilizer and all the products from the goal flowing
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Speaker 4: through the straits before too long. One large tanker has
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Speaker 4: already gone through the straits with no issues at all.
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Speaker 4: We're massively attritting their ability to strike with missiles and drones,
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Speaker 4: and that rate of attrition will increase in the coming days.
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Speaker 4: So we'll be cautious, we'll be careful, but energy will
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Speaker 4: flow soon.
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Speaker 2: And President Trump has acknowledged the oil crisis, but says
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Speaker 2: it's worth it excuragion.
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Speaker 4: If you figured what prices would go up, we said, well,
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Speaker 4: they will also come down.
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Speaker 1: They'll come down very fast, and we will have gotten rid.
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Speaker 5: Of a major cancer by the face of the earth.
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Speaker 2: And let's hope he's right and that the US in
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Speaker 2: Israel regain or gain control of this passageway as soon
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Speaker 2: as possible. As a result of the disruption and oil supply,
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Speaker 2: prices are now at their highest level since twenty twenty two,
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Speaker 2: and back then it was as a result of Russia's
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Speaker 2: war in Ukraine, and prices reached about one hundred and
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Speaker 2: thirty dollars US a barrel. Well, overnight prices hit more
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Speaker 2: than one hundred dollars US and barrel and rising. The
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Speaker 2: situation here in Australia is particularly dire because we only
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Speaker 2: have around thirty two days of supply left. This is
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Speaker 2: much less than most other countries. As economist Adam Crichightened
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Speaker 2: explained on Thursday.
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Speaker 6: Most countries are meant to have ninety days of supply
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Speaker 6: and Australia has something like thirty five days of supply.
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Speaker 2: And this has been the case actually for a very
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Speaker 2: long time.
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Speaker 6: I can remember back at the Australian ten years ago
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Speaker 6: writing about the fact that we only had thirty days supply.
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Speaker 2: The issue isn't as acute in America because they do
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Speaker 2: have domestic supply. And now it's essential that the Albanese
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Speaker 2: government looks to secure other sources of fuel. It's likely
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Speaker 2: that over the next few weeks we will deal with
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Speaker 2: very highs and a fuel shortach. The last time this
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Speaker 2: happened was in nineteen seventy nine and nineteen eighty when
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Speaker 2: there was a global oil crisis. This was triggered then
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Speaker 2: by the Iranian Revolution and then the Iran Iraq War,
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Speaker 2: and this all disrupted oil shipments from the Persian Gulf. Now,
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Speaker 2: if you're old enough, if you were around then you
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Speaker 2: may remember queuing for hours to fill up at the
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Speaker 2: petrol station. And that's if it was open. Sometimes the
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Speaker 2: stations even shut their doors, and this is in Sydney,
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Speaker 2: Melbourne and Brisbane because there was just not enough supply
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Speaker 2: and prices rose sharply as well. They nearly doubled in
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Speaker 2: two years. They went from twelve cents a litera to
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Speaker 2: twenty four cents a leader. Don't we wish those are
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Speaker 2: the prices now, and like now, panic buying was part
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Speaker 2: of the problem, with motorists effectively depleting the reserves before
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Speaker 2: the service stations could refill. There were plans back then
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Speaker 2: to ration fuel and there was discussion about printing couponts.
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Speaker 2: This was under the National Energy Advisory Committee and the
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Speaker 2: Liquid Fuel Emergency Act, but it never came to that.
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Speaker 2: Drivers were encouraged to carpool and to reduce non essential
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Speaker 2: travel and we could see a situation like that again. Well,
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Speaker 2: here's what Chris Bowen has said about this issue.
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Speaker 7: No, that there is some supply chain issues which is
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Speaker 7: really being caused by a spike in demand of people
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Speaker 7: buying seeking to buy extra digel.
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Speaker 2: While there are.
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Speaker 7: Challenges in international supply chain, there's absolutely no reason for
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Speaker 7: panic anything, panicking full stop panic buying.
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Speaker 2: I'll get brom and Bishop's response to that, and also
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Speaker 2: what she remembers about the fuel crisis of seventy nine
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Speaker 2: and eighty shortly. But in my view, the government should
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Speaker 2: already be encouraging motors to carpl to cut down on
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Speaker 2: travel that is an urgent and resist panic buying petrol.
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Speaker 2: But more importantly, they should be doing everything in their
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Speaker 2: power to secure fuel from other roots, from other sources.
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Speaker 2: If we have an oil crisis, one that isn't felt
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Speaker 2: as acutely by the United States or other developed nations.
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Speaker 2: This will expose the Albanese government's ineptitude in preparing for
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Speaker 2: this scenario, which was clearly on the cards for a
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Speaker 2: very long period of time.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, the Iranian leadership is still a troubling question. Moshtaba Kamani,
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Speaker 2: the eldest son, was already the leader, but now Iran
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Speaker 2: has officially announced it and President Trump hasn't commented on
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Speaker 2: him directly, but he's indicated that he won't last long,
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Speaker 2: that a figure that America doesn't support won't last long.
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Speaker 2: Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Nette Yaho also won't leave in
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Speaker 2: place someone who is just as extreme and hardline as
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Speaker 2: Ayatola Kamene was. This is a one off opportunity to
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Speaker 2: transform the worst terror regime in the world, and Trump
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Speaker 2: and Nettinya who won't waste it. They are showing resolve, clarity,
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Speaker 2: and a determination to win. And these leaders certainly show
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Speaker 2: up Anthony Albanesi, who has supported the war, but he
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Speaker 2: can't bring himself to say that it's legal.
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Speaker 6: Well, the legal questions are, of course questions for the
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Speaker 6: states that launched the attacker, the United States and Israel.
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Speaker 2: Albanizi also admitted that yes, there were Australian personnel on
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Speaker 2: the American submarine that sunk the Iranian warship, but then
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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister went out of his way to say
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Speaker 2: they weren't involved in the actual attack on Iran.
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Speaker 6: There were three Australian personnel on board that vessel I
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Speaker 6: can confirm, also though that no Australian personnel have participated
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Speaker 6: in any offensive action against Iran.
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Speaker 1: Well.
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Speaker 2: As Greg Sheridan writes today, this is the epitome of
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Speaker 2: weakness from alban Easy. His position on the war shows
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Speaker 2: a striking lack of moral courage. Once again, imagine being
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Speaker 2: so timid that you recoil at the mere possibility that
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Speaker 2: anyone might suspect Australians were involved in an attack against
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Speaker 2: the evil Iranian regime. I mean, between him and Kirstamer,
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Speaker 2: the left leaning leaders globally project hesitation and impotence, We're
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Speaker 2: out him. These times demand decisive leadership in the face
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Speaker 2: of the emboldened terror state. Well, Foreign Minister Penny Wong
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Speaker 2: has long claimed to care about human rights and the
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Speaker 2: plight of women in opposition. This was a common theme
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Speaker 2: in her major.
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Speaker 8: Speeches and it should commit to many more humanitarian places
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Speaker 8: for roughguns who are at risk of serious harm of
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Speaker 8: the Taliban.
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Speaker 9: Protecting the Afghun journalists, community leaders, activists, human rights defenders,
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Speaker 9: especially women, should be central to Australia's response to the
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Speaker 9: crisis in Afghanistan.
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Speaker 8: The reason I'm supporting women's rights is that they're human rights,
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Speaker 8: and we know that nations flourish and communities are safer
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Speaker 8: when women take their place at the table. We pledge
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Speaker 8: to work with our region and with the whole UN
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Speaker 8: membership to improve human rights for all.
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Speaker 2: But how committed is she truly to person cuted women
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Speaker 2: and humanitarian issues, because right here, right now, in our country,
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Speaker 2: are a group of women at severe risk. The Iranian
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Speaker 2: women's soccer team have bravely taken a stand amid to
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Speaker 2: Operation Epic Fury when they refuse to sing their national
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Speaker 2: anthem at matches, and now The City Morning Herald reports
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Speaker 2: that members of the Iranian women's soccer team have given
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Speaker 2: what appears to be an SOS hand signal from their
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Speaker 2: team bus as advocates plead for the Australian government to
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Speaker 2: do everything possible to allow them to stay in Australia.
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Speaker 2: And that's this signal here, and that's reportedly the international
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Speaker 2: help sign given to a crowd of supporters. Now the
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Speaker 2: police and government are understood to have been approached to
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Speaker 2: request urgent protection for the women, and there are serious
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Speaker 2: concerns for their safety if they return to Iran, because
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Speaker 2: just last week Iranian state television publicly accused them of dishonor.
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Speaker 2: The young soccer players were called wartime traitors who must
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Speaker 2: be dealt with severely.
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Speaker 1: Melina Juni in Ojb shar Ham Mardom as I'm on
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Speaker 1: a giant back.
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Speaker 2: If these women return to Iran, you can only imagine
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Speaker 2: the cruel punishment that awaits them. Exiled Crown Prince Rezapa
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Speaker 2: Lavi has now spoken out. He said just this morning,
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Speaker 2: and I quote, as a result of their brave act
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Speaker 2: of civil disobedience in refusing to sing the current regimes
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Speaker 2: national anthem, they face dire consequences should they return to Iran,
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Speaker 2: he says. I call on the government to ensure their
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Speaker 2: safety and give them any and all needed support. Well,
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Speaker 2: Penny Wong was asked about this issue in the ABC
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Speaker 2: yesterday but said nothing of substance.
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Speaker 10: Is it safe for them to return home?
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Speaker 8: That Matilda's swapping jerseys with them was I think a
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Speaker 8: very evocative moment and we stand in solidarity with the
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Speaker 8: men and women of Iran, and particularly Iranian women and girls.
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Speaker 7: I appreciate you don't want to put them all their
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Speaker 7: families back home in any greater danger here.
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Speaker 3: But can I ask as the government been able to
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Speaker 3: have any direct contact with these players without their minders.
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Speaker 9: I can't comment on that.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 2: There is the issue of the women's families in Iran
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Speaker 2: and whether they'd be punished if the women defected to Australia.
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Speaker 2: Retaliation from the Iranian regime is a genuine concern and
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Speaker 2: it could put their families at risk, but that decision
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Speaker 2: should be up to the soccer players themselves. If the
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Speaker 2: women want to stay here, if they feel it's unsafe
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Speaker 2: for them to go home, then of course our government
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Speaker 2: should do everything in its power to support this and fast.
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Speaker 2: These women courageously took a stand on the world stage.
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Speaker 2: The very least we could do is support them if
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Speaker 2: they feel the fate that awaits them upon return to
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Speaker 2: Iran is too grave a risk to take. Now, this
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Speaker 2: is one of those stories that leaves you genuinely stunt.
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Speaker 2: We're talking about serial killer Reginald Arthur l now he
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Speaker 2: now identifies as Gina. He's a man who killed his
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Speaker 2: stepfather with a carving knife, robbed and killed a teenager,
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Speaker 2: and then bludgeoned his own fiance to death with a
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Speaker 2: piece of wood. This is a serial killer with one
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Speaker 2: of the most grotesque histories imaginable, and ben Fordham has
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Speaker 2: now revealed that this serial killer is allegedly living in
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Speaker 2: Western Sydney in a home with two foster children in
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Speaker 2: out of home care who are aged twelve and fourteen.
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Speaker 1: There are teenagers living in the home.
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Speaker 10: Exactly the person is currently residing in a house with
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Speaker 10: an elderly lady who's currently vulnerable and as is in
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Speaker 10: one hundred meters of two public schools.
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Speaker 1: Holy Hell.
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Speaker 2: The daughter of the woman living with the serial killer
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Speaker 2: says that she has contacted police and corrective services repeatedly
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Speaker 2: trying to find out if anyone was checking on this man,
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Speaker 2: especially given that there are children in the home.
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Speaker 10: Their response when I question them about who is the
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Speaker 10: department in New South Wales who currently looks after these
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Speaker 10: people and go and make sure you know that they're
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Speaker 10: adhering to all of their orders. They hung up on me.
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Speaker 2: This is unbelievable. If foster children have been placed in
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Speaker 2: a home with a man like this, then this is
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Speaker 2: a monumental failure of government. These are children in the
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Speaker 2: state has already determined vulnerable. They should not, under any circumstances,
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Speaker 2: be living with a serial killer. It's an outrageous, dangerous
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Speaker 2: collapse in the system that is meant to protect the
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Speaker 2: most vulnerable and no doubt Ben Foden will have more
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Speaker 2: on that tomorrow morning on his two GB program. All right,
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Speaker 2: let's bring in now our Monday panel, former Speaker of
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Speaker 2: the House Broman Bishop and Sky News host Steve Price.
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Speaker 2: Good to see you both. Want to start with the
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Speaker 2: news that few wholesalers are now rationing petrol and diesel
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Speaker 2: across Australia as a result of Iran's effective blockade of
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Speaker 2: the Strait of Home moves. Now, you know, I was
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Speaker 2: talking before about the queues at the petrol stations, and
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Speaker 2: by the way, I really only knew that they were
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Speaker 2: hours and hours long because my mum was telling me
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Speaker 2: what it was like having to wait for a petrol
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Speaker 2: station to open. Do you remember those times?
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Speaker 5: Absolutely? I remember those times. And furthermore, we used to
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Speaker 5: have days when it was number plates that were odds
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Speaker 5: and evens. Only people with an odd number could go
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Speaker 5: on a particular day, and even numbers on another day.
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Speaker 5: It was very serious and it certainly was a shock
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Speaker 5: to us. But everybody's been quoting, of course Jim Molan
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Speaker 5: and of course the fact that he spent a lot
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Speaker 5: of his time in the Senate trying to point out
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Speaker 5: that we had to we had to have storage on
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Speaker 5: Australian shawls. And when we're told by someone like bow
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Speaker 5: And everything's just lovely. I hate. Can you believe a
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Speaker 5: word that comes out of that man's mouth?
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Speaker 1: Oh?
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Speaker 2: Exactly, exactly, Well, Steve, what do you think the government
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Speaker 2: should be doing now?
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Speaker 11: Well, we've got to have more than thirty six days
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Speaker 11: with the petrol, that's for sure. I mean Chris Bowen
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Speaker 11: was asked twice about that last week, Barnaby Joyce brought
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Speaker 11: it up actually first in the question time in Parliament
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Speaker 11: and Canbell last week. But we just simply do not
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Speaker 11: have enough supply. I can tell you a couple of
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Speaker 11: things have happened today. One of the Bunning, one of
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Speaker 11: the giant Bunning stories in Melbourne. Stores in Melbourne has
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Speaker 11: run out of plastic Jerry cans.
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Speaker 1: They have no more.
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Speaker 11: They've got some metal jerry cans left. Every plastic Jerry
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Speaker 11: can has gone. I heard a farmer on Talkbak radio
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Speaker 11: down here today who's about to start planting for his
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Speaker 11: winter crops. He got a delivery of diesel on Saturday.
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Speaker 11: The diesel truck driver told him I won't be coming
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Speaker 11: back for your normal supply next week because we're told
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Speaker 11: we're starting to ration it. So he's going to have
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Speaker 11: to get himself Jerry cans go and fill up in
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Speaker 11: his local zoo if he can get any. And I
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Speaker 11: would like to ask bromin, how will we get on today,
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Speaker 11: Bronnie with personalized number plates? I remember when we had
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Speaker 11: odd and even numbers on number plates. What if you've
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Speaker 11: got Bronnie ending an eye? Is that an odd or
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Speaker 11: an even figure or number?
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Speaker 5: I think they have to stay home and wait. I
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Speaker 5: mean the bottom line, what this whole thing shows is
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Speaker 5: how dependent this country is on fossil fuel, and the
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Speaker 5: sooner we get over it and start to use our
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Speaker 5: resources and have a proper policy that means we can
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Speaker 5: refine it here again and increase our supply on shore,
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Speaker 5: not in a boat on the way, not in America,
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Speaker 5: but on shore here. We'll start to get some decent policies.
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Speaker 5: We run on fossil fuel. The vile Greens and the
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Speaker 5: rest of them who pretend we don't just be ignored.
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Speaker 2: Of course, Crispond, we'll just use it to further his
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Speaker 2: push for Tesla's another non fears vehicle.
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Speaker 5: But then we realize the amount of oil that goes
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Speaker 5: into those great turbines. Oil and diesel run this country.
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Speaker 5: That's how we move our trucks, that's how we move
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Speaker 5: our food, how we grow our food.
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Speaker 2: Indeed, indeed, I want to ask both of you your
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Speaker 2: view on the Albanzi government's very wishy washy comments about
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Speaker 2: Operation Epic Fury browin.
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Speaker 5: Well, what a sniveling little bunch of socialists they are. Seriously,
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Speaker 5: there's no leadership, there's no strength, there's no nothing. Everything
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Speaker 5: is trying to hedge the bits. He sounds like Starma
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Speaker 5: one day and then tries to stand up and say, oh,
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Speaker 5: we're really a reliable ally, and it just doesn't wash
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Speaker 5: he just is a sniveling little socialist.
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Speaker 2: Steve, what do you think specifically about the point that
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Speaker 2: Albanezy says, yes, there were Australians on bod that American
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Speaker 2: sub but I know they didn't take part in the strike.
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Speaker 2: I mean, how ridiculous is that.
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Speaker 11: I mean, that's just crazy stuff. You're on a submarine.
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Speaker 11: Where did they go? Did they go to their bunks
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Speaker 11: and bunk down for the night and pretend it wasn't happening.
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Speaker 11: If you're on a submarine and a nuclear sub commanded
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Speaker 11: by an American in charge of it, and you're part
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Speaker 11: of the crew, and you up periscope and decide you're
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Speaker 11: going to take an iranium battleship out of the ocean
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Speaker 11: with a torpedo, of course you're part of the operation.
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Speaker 11: I mean that is just stupid to say that. I mean,
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Speaker 11: just say, look, they were on board and they were
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Speaker 11: part of it. I can't talk about it because it's
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Speaker 11: national security. I mean, to waffle around like that is dumb.
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Speaker 2: I mean, he should be proud of those Australians not
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Speaker 2: going out of his way to say they had nothing
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Speaker 2: to do with it. I mean, how does it look
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Speaker 2: for those ices coming back home. I know we had
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Speaker 2: nothing to do with the strike on the enemy Iran.
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Speaker 5: I've been on a submarine. I've spent twenty four hours
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Speaker 5: the deep in a submarine. You are part of that crew.
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Speaker 5: You are part of what's happening in the operation. And
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Speaker 5: to try and pretend otherwise is just a joke.
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Speaker 2: That must have been a fascinating experience there was for you, Bromin.
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Speaker 2: Now this coalition policy, So the coalition's looking at a
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Speaker 2: policy which would tighten the migration rules. Look, I mean,
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Speaker 2: no one's really taking coalition policy seriously at the moment
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Speaker 2: because they're kind of nowhere, although they have improved slightly
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Speaker 2: under Angus Taylor. But nevertheless, do you think this is
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Speaker 2: a good idea, Bromin, to have migrants appealing visa cancelations
23:25
Speaker 2: from offshore?
23:27
Speaker 1: Well?
23:27
Speaker 5: Yes, and it used to be the case that you
23:30
Speaker 5: had to go off short to apply. A lot of
23:32
Speaker 5: US thrones used to go to New Zealand and reapply
23:35
Speaker 5: for their visa. But the bottom line is this that
23:39
Speaker 5: the Angus Taylor has come out and said shop the door.
23:43
Speaker 5: Good point, but no one needs to flesh it out.
23:45
Speaker 5: And this if this policy is coming out at the
23:47
Speaker 5: beginning of fleshing it out well and good, but they
23:50
Speaker 5: have to be firm. They have to come out and
23:52
Speaker 5: say we are gained to lessen the intake of migrants
23:58
Speaker 5: into this country and people who we genuinely need.
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Speaker 1: Now we're already.
24:03
Speaker 5: Seeing artificial intelligence, seeing people being fired. Why would you
24:07
Speaker 5: try and bring additional people in to try and force
24:10
Speaker 5: out those people from trying to get back into other jobs.
24:14
Speaker 5: There are a whole lot of questions that need to
24:15
Speaker 5: be asked. So my point of view, i'd have a
24:18
Speaker 5: freeze on immigration, just no one with.
24:21
Speaker 2: The two years popular. That would be definitely absolutely suggested
24:24
Speaker 2: to Angus Taylor's Steve, what do you think, Well.
24:27
Speaker 11: The coalition's got to come out, as Broumin said, and
24:29
Speaker 11: put some meat on the bone here. I mean, they've
24:31
Speaker 11: got to come out and say, look, we need engineers, know,
24:34
Speaker 11: we need people who can work in high tech, We
24:37
Speaker 11: need tradees. That's who we need in the country. We
24:40
Speaker 11: don't need a whole bunch of students who pretend they're
24:43
Speaker 11: on some course and then spend their time riding around
24:45
Speaker 11: electric bike delivering uber food. We don't need any more
24:48
Speaker 11: of those people. They're here already. Let's get serious. Put
24:52
Speaker 11: a number on it. If it's a freeze, as Broman said,
24:55
Speaker 11: I wouldn't have a problem with that if you said
24:57
Speaker 11: no one for a year or two years. But all
25:00
Speaker 11: the business community are up in arms about that. Farmers
25:02
Speaker 11: so they can't get enough workers. So probably just be
25:05
Speaker 11: more specific about a total number and who we're getting them,
25:10
Speaker 11: who we are getting to come here because we need
25:12
Speaker 11: the skills that they have.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, I think skilled migration is, of course extremely important,
25:19
Speaker 2: and there are, as you say, Steve, some sectors that
25:22
Speaker 2: rely on skilled migrants, but it's been very selective and
25:27
Speaker 2: very careful.
25:27
Speaker 5: They're not The number of people who come in here
25:30
Speaker 5: with skills that are useful to us is very small.
25:35
Speaker 5: I heard Milton Freeboot make a comment on social media
25:40
Speaker 5: saying why was it okay to bring in migrants in
25:43
Speaker 5: the early part of the twentieth century but not now?
25:46
Speaker 5: His simple he said, in those years people came here
25:50
Speaker 5: to work, to improve, to build.
25:53
Speaker 1: Now people come here for welfare.
25:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is a problem, right, Steve Price, Roman Bishop
26:00
Speaker 2: love having both of you here on a Monday, Thank
26:02
Speaker 2: you so much. Now still to come out of the
26:05
Speaker 2: horror of the Bondai massacre and extraordinary love story. Life
26:09
Speaker 2: savers join me here live to talk about their wellwind engagement. Plus,
26:14
Speaker 2: should Pennywong be helping the Iranian women's soccer team? Well,
26:18
Speaker 2: Ray Hadley will give his view after the break. Welcome
26:25
Speaker 2: back with as always in a Monday, we have the
26:27
Speaker 2: pleasure of radio legend Ray Hadley's company.
26:30
Speaker 12: Ray, good to see you, Cherry, lovely to be with
26:32
Speaker 12: you as always, and let's start.
26:34
Speaker 2: With talking about the Iranian women's soccer team. What do
26:38
Speaker 2: you think do you think Pennywog should be doing everything
26:41
Speaker 2: possible to help them if they want to stay here?
26:44
Speaker 12: Well, I think it's evident after what we saw this
26:47
Speaker 12: morning and last night with one of the players giving
26:49
Speaker 12: this internationally recognized you a signal for help, and we've
26:53
Speaker 12: seen it on the program tonight. That's a plea for help.
26:57
Speaker 12: At least one member of the team is in she's
27:01
Speaker 12: in strife. She wants to get away from that. Now
27:04
Speaker 12: Penny Wang falls over herself to accommodate ISIS terrorists, females
27:09
Speaker 12: who willingly went to that part of the world and
27:12
Speaker 12: wants to bring them back.
27:13
Speaker 2: Government does well, you know, she.
27:15
Speaker 12: Hasn't been too critical of it, and now we've got
27:18
Speaker 12: a situation. Obviously, they have to accept the asylum. They've
27:22
Speaker 12: got to seek it, then accept it. That's up to them.
27:25
Speaker 12: And there would be concerns about their mothers and fathers
27:28
Speaker 12: and siblings and cousins and uncles back home, because they've
27:31
Speaker 12: already been threatened because they didn't sing the national anthem
27:34
Speaker 12: against South Korea, They've been called traders and they were terrified,
27:37
Speaker 12: so against Australia and the Philippines, they produced the national anthem.
27:41
Speaker 12: Now they're being guarded by these Iranian guards.
27:44
Speaker 1: They're terrorists.
27:46
Speaker 12: They're being accommodated by our government here. And I guess
27:49
Speaker 12: that was because it's a sporting event, and the soccer officials,
27:52
Speaker 12: football officials said they've got to be here because that's
27:54
Speaker 12: what they want to compete in the Asian League. That's
27:58
Speaker 12: what they need to have. But we've got them being
28:01
Speaker 12: guarded now. I know members of the Australian Iranian community
28:04
Speaker 12: have been exchanging social media pastings with them, and that stopped.
28:09
Speaker 1: That stopped, and all of a sudden.
28:11
Speaker 12: Instead of these pleasant emages and the rest of it,
28:13
Speaker 12: it was a simple one line in English, we can
28:17
Speaker 12: no longer converse with you. So the phones have been
28:20
Speaker 12: taken off these poor girls. They've been silenced and they've
28:23
Speaker 12: been silenced. And then one of them last night after
28:27
Speaker 12: the game gave this international signal a plea for help.
28:30
Speaker 1: Now.
28:30
Speaker 12: If that doesn't mean anything to Penny Wong, I'm a
28:33
Speaker 12: Dutch astronaut. That's a plea for help from a person
28:37
Speaker 12: who's being held against two will on Australian soil. That
28:42
Speaker 12: one person at least should be spoken to by authorities
28:46
Speaker 12: and say do you wish to seek asylum. And the
28:49
Speaker 12: other thing is we don't know when they leave because
28:52
Speaker 12: they haven't given an itinery they're going back to Turkey
28:55
Speaker 12: and then we'll be transported by land back to Iran.
28:58
Speaker 12: From Turkey.
28:59
Speaker 2: The government would of course know their travel movements, so
29:02
Speaker 2: they know when they're leaving and how to access them,
29:05
Speaker 2: you know, pull aside at the airport.
29:07
Speaker 12: There's a history of these sorts of things happening. But
29:10
Speaker 12: these young women are in desperate trouble and look, many
29:16
Speaker 12: of them will obviously return home because they're that fearful
29:19
Speaker 12: for their mums and dads and relatives that they'll just
29:21
Speaker 12: go back anyway regardless, they'll put themselves in peril with others.
29:25
Speaker 12: But if they stay here, they're not in peril. But
29:28
Speaker 12: the rest of the family are. These are murderous people
29:32
Speaker 12: over there. They kill people for homosexuality, they kill women
29:36
Speaker 12: who sing in the street.
29:38
Speaker 1: I mean it just.
29:40
Speaker 12: Beggars belief that the government hasn't actually and I saw
29:42
Speaker 12: that stuff with Penny Wong and David earlier on your program.
29:46
Speaker 5: I mean, as quick as water completely.
29:49
Speaker 2: I mean, she can at least show even if she
29:51
Speaker 2: doesn't reveal the Australian government's plans, if they have plans
29:54
Speaker 2: to help, she could still show some moral support and.
29:59
Speaker 12: Verbal the solidarity was. Wasn't nice to exchange jumpers with
30:03
Speaker 12: Matilda's Penny hang ahead.
30:06
Speaker 2: I mean, she's almost as bad as Keir Starmer ah
30:11
Speaker 2: who Trump has now rejected his belated offer for help, saying, hey,
30:16
Speaker 2: we've already won the war. He said, are once great?
30:19
Speaker 12: Ally well, there'd be many people who wouldn't remember the
30:23
Speaker 12: name Neville Chamberlain.
30:24
Speaker 1: This Blake is the Nevill Chamberlain of this century.
30:27
Speaker 12: He's the one that went to Germany before thirty nine
30:29
Speaker 12: and said Hitler, good fella, he's on a problem. Months later,
30:33
Speaker 12: he's in Poland and we know what happened from that
30:36
Speaker 12: Nevill this Blake's levels. He makes Nevil Chamberlain look like
30:39
Speaker 12: Winston Churchill. I mean, kiss Sir Keir Starmer to give
30:43
Speaker 12: him his full title, I mean, honestly. And Donald Trump's right,
30:50
Speaker 12: the war's not one, obviously, but you know, you don't
30:52
Speaker 12: need people charming in when things have already been very,
30:55
Speaker 12: very tough. And he made the point history dictates that
31:00
Speaker 12: the United States has been the greatest supporter of the
31:02
Speaker 12: United Kingdom and Australia traditionally. Yeah, you know, since federation
31:08
Speaker 12: and historically led a little problem centuries ago, but they
31:12
Speaker 12: got over that, the Americans and the British. But I mean,
31:15
Speaker 12: they are allies, and you don't expect your ally to say, look,
31:19
Speaker 12: I'll just check my watch and see what time we
31:21
Speaker 12: can get there to help you. I mean, and no wonder,
31:25
Speaker 12: mister Ferraj, you're doing so well in the polls if
31:28
Speaker 12: that's the best they can offer.
31:29
Speaker 2: Keith Starmin, They who would be supporting Keith Starman.
31:31
Speaker 1: No one.
31:32
Speaker 2: Speaking of poles, we saw on the Sunday Telegraph yesterday
31:35
Speaker 2: this big pole looking at New South Wales and how
31:38
Speaker 2: the coalition in New South Wales is doing under the
31:41
Speaker 2: new Liberal leader, Kelly Sloane, it's pretty bad. In terms
31:46
Speaker 2: of the primary vote, two party preferred is shocking sixty
31:50
Speaker 2: one to thirty nine. And then the point that Kelly
31:53
Speaker 2: Sloane's in a worst position than under Mark Speakman.
31:57
Speaker 12: I do imagine you could be worse than Mark Speakman.
31:59
Speaker 12: But what ll east Lane has to do is be
32:01
Speaker 12: stronger on those positions conservative voters are looking for. That's
32:04
Speaker 12: why One Nation is doing particularly well, because voters are
32:08
Speaker 12: concerned about security, They're concerned about a whole range of things,
32:11
Speaker 12: and they're concerned about petrol prices as well, obviously that
32:13
Speaker 12: you spoke earlier with Stephen Bromin about. But she really
32:17
Speaker 12: has to come out. Look, it's too early for me
32:19
Speaker 12: to condemn her. She's only been there for a twinkle,
32:22
Speaker 12: and you know there's a bit of time between now
32:24
Speaker 12: and polling.
32:25
Speaker 2: Towards the end of the much better job than Mark Spith.
32:28
Speaker 12: Oh, well, yeah, she's much more positive. I mean, but
32:31
Speaker 12: I was really heartened to see that the federal Liberals
32:34
Speaker 12: are thinking about they should do it, I mean about
32:37
Speaker 12: sharing preferences with one nation. I mean, traditionally they haven't
32:40
Speaker 12: done it. Going back to John Howard and Tony Abbott
32:42
Speaker 12: at all. But at the end of the day, the
32:45
Speaker 12: Labor Party willingly take preferences off the Greens, who are
32:49
Speaker 12: an absolute rabble. And if we have to see the
32:54
Speaker 12: Nationals and Liberals start to do deals.
32:57
Speaker 1: With one nation and you can't tell me just say
32:59
Speaker 1: I saw that.
33:00
Speaker 2: I agree they should as well. It's the difference between
33:03
Speaker 2: winning government having us having to deal with alban Easy
33:07
Speaker 2: for another three.
33:08
Speaker 12: Look, not that we'll get there, but can you imagine
33:11
Speaker 12: if we have a hung parliament in the lower House
33:13
Speaker 12: and Pauline's got a number of senators that can you know,
33:18
Speaker 12: tell you who's going to be in government now? Can
33:20
Speaker 12: you can you tell me whether she's going to swing
33:22
Speaker 12: towards Taylor or swing towards alban Easy, And we won't
33:26
Speaker 12: have the sort of dire tribe and nonsense we had
33:29
Speaker 12: with Tony Windsor.
33:32
Speaker 1: That was a joke, roboshotmind?
33:37
Speaker 12: Why do remind my I just about got over Robertshot.
33:40
Speaker 12: But can you what about those speeches they made? But
33:42
Speaker 12: I mean, at the end of the day, I know
33:44
Speaker 12: Pauline is saying we won't. Of course it will, Pauline
33:47
Speaker 12: if it's a conservative.
33:48
Speaker 1: Choice of course you'll go that way.
33:51
Speaker 12: So I agree, like I think the party is now
33:57
Speaker 12: well Taylor hasn't said it, but he's deputy has that
34:00
Speaker 12: they're thinking about it.
34:01
Speaker 1: We'll stop thinking about it and do it.
34:02
Speaker 2: Do it exactly.
34:03
Speaker 1: If you want to win.
34:04
Speaker 12: Government or share government, where one nation will do it,
34:07
Speaker 12: it's either the Greens and Labor or you in one nation.
34:09
Speaker 12: It's an easy pick, I think for a conservative government
34:12
Speaker 12: or conservative opposition.
34:13
Speaker 2: Indeed, Ray always love having you here. You always talk
34:17
Speaker 2: complete sense.
34:18
Speaker 1: Well, I brought the blood pressure tablets. Would be again.
34:20
Speaker 1: I'll put one under the tongue by the form of
34:22
Speaker 1: the handle. I've come down to my darling wife.
34:24
Speaker 2: So it hates Mondays because you hear doctor JF.
34:28
Speaker 1: I promise I'll come down next Monday.
34:29
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you so much. All right, and let's cross.
34:33
Speaker 2: Now live to Israel and Jodimir's Deputy Foreign Affairs Minister
34:37
Speaker 2: Sharen Haskell. Charen, thank you so much. You've just come
34:40
Speaker 2: out of a bomb shelter because there was a missile attack.
34:43
Speaker 2: I believe now as I spoke about already, Iran has
34:47
Speaker 2: officially named a new Supreme leaders who we expected the
34:52
Speaker 2: late come in a son mosh Taba, what do you
34:56
Speaker 2: know about him? And will Israel now target him?
35:02
Speaker 13: So his son is actually more extreme and more cruel
35:07
Speaker 13: than his father, if that could have been even possible.
35:10
Speaker 13: I mean, al kamine has millions of people who were torture, died,
35:16
Speaker 13: executed in the most horrifying ways you can ever possibly
35:21
Speaker 13: imagine women's who were raped executed, you know, just for
35:27
Speaker 13: singing in the streets or not covering their hair in
35:30
Speaker 13: the streets. And his son is more radical and more
35:35
Speaker 13: fanatical than his father. And you see as some of
35:38
Speaker 13: the plans of al Kaminee being the master plan or
35:43
Speaker 13: a person who has pushed him even further as his son,
35:48
Speaker 13: it is only a matter of time until we will
35:51
Speaker 13: reach him. We have set the goal of a long
35:56
Speaker 13: term to eliminate the long term existential threat over the
36:02
Speaker 13: state of Israel, and we went on Operation Rising Line.
36:07
Speaker 13: We're going in through this operation as well to degrade
36:10
Speaker 13: and to eliminate a lot of the tools and the
36:13
Speaker 13: deadly capabilities that the Iranian regime actually have. But the mastermind,
36:19
Speaker 13: the fanatical of who are continuing to advance the actual tactics,
36:25
Speaker 13: the actual tools, the actual plan of an execution of
36:30
Speaker 13: this strategy are those people, and so we are hoping
36:36
Speaker 13: that with eliminating a lot of its power, a lot
36:38
Speaker 13: of its capability, that will actually open a path for
36:42
Speaker 13: the Iranian people. All right, so turn back control.
36:46
Speaker 2: We don't have as much time as we originally had
36:49
Speaker 2: because of the you know, to run to the bomb shelter.
36:51
Speaker 2: But I just want to ask you another couple of
36:53
Speaker 2: topics really quickly. We saw the explosion of the oil
36:57
Speaker 2: depots the Black irainy in Tehran. Why was it necessary
37:00
Speaker 2: to target these sites? And also, with oil and fuel
37:04
Speaker 2: supply a major issue, with the effective closure of the
37:07
Speaker 2: Strait of Homers and this risks crippling the global economy,
37:11
Speaker 2: how quickly do you think America and Israel will try
37:15
Speaker 2: and ensure that this reopens.
37:19
Speaker 13: So there's a few things. First of all, Iran has
37:21
Speaker 13: been targeting all refineries blocking the Hermos Strait, and I've
37:27
Speaker 13: been using other tactics in order to create as much
37:31
Speaker 13: pressure as possible in the international community for Israel and
37:35
Speaker 13: for the United States to actually stop our operations. This
37:40
Speaker 13: is part of their strategy, and they've been attacking their
37:43
Speaker 13: neighboring countries. They're all refineries, tankers, oil tankers as well
37:49
Speaker 13: as President Trump said as well, there will be a
37:52
Speaker 13: certain strain, There's going to be a certain challenges, but
37:58
Speaker 13: in a short term. In the long term, as President
38:01
Speaker 13: Trump said, and and I believe him, and I know
38:06
Speaker 13: that will come once this operation is successful, then there
38:09
Speaker 13: will even be a greater reduction in oil prices the
38:15
Speaker 13: United States and Israel. And you have spoken about the
38:20
Speaker 13: elimination of quite a lot of the capability of the
38:23
Speaker 13: naval capability of Iran, and that's in order to try
38:28
Speaker 13: and relieve the danger and the and the challenges that
38:33
Speaker 13: there are in the Hermon's Street as well. So hopefully
38:39
Speaker 13: you know that will come as and will end as
38:43
Speaker 13: quickly as possible.
38:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Charan, we will have more time next time.
38:48
Speaker 2: Stay safe. Thank you very much for your time. After
38:52
Speaker 2: the break, Tu Bondi life savers who ran into the
38:55
Speaker 2: massacre then found love in the middle of the chaos.
38:58
Speaker 2: They're now engaged and they'll join me after the break.
39:05
Speaker 2: It's nice to have happy news for a change. And
39:08
Speaker 2: two strangers who lived streets apart in Bondai, trained at
39:11
Speaker 2: the same surf club and still never really knew each other,
39:14
Speaker 2: were thrown together, saving lives. At the Bondai massacre, Jimmy
39:18
Speaker 2: McIntosh and Lexi Edmondston ran into the horror to help
39:22
Speaker 2: treat those who were shot, and they never expected this
39:25
Speaker 2: would have been the start of an incredible love story.
39:29
Speaker 2: They've just got engaged. We'll show you that happy picture
39:33
Speaker 2: in a moment, and that's them. They're both helping someone
39:37
Speaker 2: who was shot. This is the stunning engagement picture in Mexico.
39:41
Speaker 2: I believe in Jimmy and Lexi. Great to have you
39:43
Speaker 2: on the show. And congratulations, thank you, thank you. That
39:48
Speaker 2: was in Mexico.
39:49
Speaker 14: That's right, Yes, on the postline, Oh so beautiful.
39:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you kind of knew each other, but not
39:56
Speaker 2: very well, and then you happen to really meet on
39:58
Speaker 2: the night of the Bondi Matt.
40:00
Speaker 14: Sicker, which that was entirely true. So we were friends
40:04
Speaker 14: through the surf club and through our training leading up
40:07
Speaker 14: to it, so only for a short period, so probably
40:11
Speaker 14: I don't know what it was it.
40:12
Speaker 15: Four five weeks, yeah, yeah, five weeks.
40:15
Speaker 14: Yeah, five weeks, and but no, we were just friends
40:18
Speaker 14: at that point, new friends.
40:19
Speaker 15: And then yeah, after the event is when things escalated
40:25
Speaker 15: and I guess like we just fell in love, really quickly.
40:28
Speaker 2: And so on the night of the massacre, you were both,
40:31
Speaker 2: as we just saw in that picture, you were both
40:33
Speaker 2: helping save the life of a man who was shocked.
40:36
Speaker 2: Is that what happened.
40:37
Speaker 15: We were both helping quite a few different people, so
40:41
Speaker 15: I guess we were probably some of the first people
40:43
Speaker 15: to run out. We weren't running out. I don't think
40:46
Speaker 15: during live fire. It's hard to say, you just kind
40:48
Speaker 15: of forget, but yeah, I know, I kind of helped
40:52
Speaker 15: four people, and then Andrew I kind of helped originally
40:58
Speaker 15: and then cycled back to him. I was, yeah, just
41:01
Speaker 15: trying to triaj.
41:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you were also running around from wounded person
41:06
Speaker 2: to wounded person.
41:07
Speaker 1: Yeah.
41:07
Speaker 14: I mean, to be fair, it's pretty difficult to actually
41:09
Speaker 14: speak specifically of that stuff. But yeah, so going in
41:14
Speaker 14: and the first person that I've tried to work on
41:17
Speaker 14: to stem the bleeding, I mean, he didn't survive. And
41:22
Speaker 14: around that time I realized that because of the style
41:27
Speaker 14: of wounds that we were presenting, I knew that there
41:31
Speaker 14: wasn't much that I could do for people like that.
41:32
Speaker 14: So I started to look for people that had sort
41:35
Speaker 14: of limb wounds because I was familiar with the idea
41:37
Speaker 14: of tornicating.
41:39
Speaker 2: Wounds from your training as a life saver.
41:42
Speaker 14: Well that and also prior to fifteen, sixteen years ago,
41:46
Speaker 14: I'd helped some of them with a shark attack who'd
41:48
Speaker 14: lost their arm, so I torniced that, and so that
41:51
Speaker 14: was kind of in my head, right, tornice guy. So
41:58
Speaker 14: but yeah, we treated a few people before we got
42:00
Speaker 14: to the fellow Andrew that you.
42:03
Speaker 2: Were both working on.
42:05
Speaker 15: Yeah, and then we carried him to the triage bay,
42:08
Speaker 15: and then I just kind of realized, because so many
42:11
Speaker 15: people were coming around, he wasn't critical enough to be
42:15
Speaker 15: one of the first people who were going to go
42:16
Speaker 15: to hospital. And I asked, I was like, how long
42:19
Speaker 15: will like, he just needs an ambulance and they were like,
42:22
Speaker 15: he could be here for hours. So we talked to
42:25
Speaker 15: some like the chief in command and the police and
42:28
Speaker 15: they said, yeah, we'll let you drive him to hospital.
42:31
Speaker 2: Oh wow, So he got in your car and you
42:33
Speaker 2: both took him to hospital.
42:35
Speaker 1: Yeah.
42:35
Speaker 2: And so, Jimmy, in that moment, you then saw Lexi
42:39
Speaker 2: in a different light.
42:41
Speaker 1: Yeah.
42:41
Speaker 14: I mean, on the ground that day, I remember seeing
42:45
Speaker 14: Lexi and Fury control, but probably the standout was that
42:48
Speaker 14: she was just so strong in the face of a
42:52
Speaker 14: very serious situation, and I wasn't familiar with that from
42:55
Speaker 14: a prospective partner, not that I was in the business
42:58
Speaker 14: of looking at that point. I've just just so struck
43:02
Speaker 14: with how strong she is.
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, so.
43:05
Speaker 2: Touched by her strength. Yeah, it's amazing that something so beautiful.
43:11
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a pretty whirlwind romance, very fast, what
43:15
Speaker 2: two months before your engagement, but you both just you.
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Speaker 14: Know, yeah, I've welcome you to speak.
43:26
Speaker 15: I like, I've never had a relationship before like this,
43:29
Speaker 15: and I think there's so many like different aspects that
43:35
Speaker 15: Jimmy brings. It just bring me so much joy. Like
43:37
Speaker 15: you know, I've never danced with somebody in the kitchen
43:39
Speaker 15: before and like sung out loud to like songs in
43:42
Speaker 15: the car, and like we just we have that, and
43:44
Speaker 15: we've had that from such an early point on that
43:48
Speaker 15: it's hard not to be confident, like, you know, in
43:50
Speaker 15: that kind of time, because that's the life that I
43:54
Speaker 15: want to have with a partner, and we're so aligned
43:57
Speaker 15: on what we.
43:58
Speaker 9: Want for the future.
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Speaker 2: I think it's also though, being in that moment of
44:03
Speaker 2: the massacre and see it, because most people don't see
44:07
Speaker 2: a life and death situation like that, where You've literally
44:10
Speaker 2: got fifty people being shot, fifty not making it and
44:14
Speaker 2: just confronting death like that probably led you, Jimmy, to
44:19
Speaker 2: live life while you've got it, Even if that was
44:22
Speaker 2: a subconscious thing, I mean, it had to.
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Speaker 14: Have had that impact absolutely. And I think seeing Lexi
44:27
Speaker 14: in the way that she was, and also her family
44:29
Speaker 14: when we spoke, I carry this real lightness about them.
44:32
Speaker 14: They don't let themselves sort of drift into the quick
44:34
Speaker 14: sense of depressional sadness, and so being around that is
44:40
Speaker 14: just contagious, having that energy around you, so of course
44:43
Speaker 14: it get drawn to that.
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Speaker 2: I wish you both all the best, Lexi and Jimmy,
44:47
Speaker 2: and I mean life savers running into the tragedy. You
44:51
Speaker 2: both so deserve this happiness. Thank you so much for
44:54
Speaker 2: your service that day, and of course we're being here,
44:57
Speaker 2: thank you, thank you, Thanks very much. And still to come,
45:02
Speaker 2: the ASX hammered as oil surges and how long we
45:06
Speaker 2: now have left before we face serious fuel shortages? That's next.
45:15
Speaker 2: The ASEX has been smashed as it hits its lowest
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Speaker 2: level since mid December, wiping out almost ninety billion dollars
45:22
Speaker 2: in value today, as oil surged past one hundred us
45:25
Speaker 2: a barrel. Joining me now is former Treasury Assistant Secretary
45:30
Speaker 2: David Pearl. David, great to see you again. Well, how
45:34
Speaker 2: much of this sell off is panic and how much
45:37
Speaker 2: is a rational response to the war.
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Speaker 16: Look, I think a large part of the selloff is panic.
45:46
Speaker 16: But the panic was understandable to some extent because just
45:50
Speaker 16: after trading started this morning on the Sydney Stock Exchange,
45:54
Speaker 16: the price of crude oil spiked by up to thirty percent,
45:59
Speaker 16: following rapport that some Middle Eastern producers had reduced output
46:03
Speaker 16: because of the difficulties in the Strait of holl Moves,
46:06
Speaker 16: So there was a degree of panic there. I should
46:09
Speaker 16: remind your listeners that I was on your program about
46:11
Speaker 16: this time last year April, when the stock market fell
46:15
Speaker 16: by more than it did today following Donald Trump's Liberation Day,
46:19
Speaker 16: and my comment then, accepting that I can't predict the future,
46:23
Speaker 16: was that we shouldn't panic, and I think i'd apply
46:25
Speaker 16: that now if.
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Speaker 2: The Strait of Home Moves does stay blocked, and I
46:31
Speaker 2: agree we shouldn't panic, and hopefully this is just temporary.
46:34
Speaker 2: But if it does stay blocked, then how quickly does
46:37
Speaker 2: this hit households and interest rates?
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Speaker 16: Well, the Straight of hor Moves, as you and your
46:45
Speaker 16: viewers probably know, counts for about one fifth of trade
46:50
Speaker 16: in oil, but there are other roots as well, so
46:54
Speaker 16: Australia can import oil and get it shipped from the US.
46:58
Speaker 16: Of course, any adjusts away from the Straits will take
47:02
Speaker 16: time and add to cost. But I think there are
47:05
Speaker 16: three reasons why the chance of a prolonged disruption to
47:11
Speaker 16: oil supply may not be as great as some people think.
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Speaker 1: One.
47:16
Speaker 16: Iran's capacity to disrupt or supplies being degraded day by
47:20
Speaker 16: day with the attacks from the US in Israel. Iran's
47:23
Speaker 16: allies Russia and China have not, as far as I understand,
47:27
Speaker 16: provided at any military assistance. Too, the big oil producers,
47:32
Speaker 16: including Saudi Arabia, want to ramp up production to keep
47:35
Speaker 16: prices lower, not cut it. And Three, I don't think
47:38
Speaker 16: Donald Trump, facing the midterm elections in eight months, could
47:42
Speaker 16: stomach politically a major oil price shock in the US.
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Speaker 1: Now.
47:46
Speaker 16: I'm not saying that there's no risk, clearly there is.
47:50
Speaker 16: Half of the world's oil supplies are situated in the
47:53
Speaker 16: Middle East, and the Strait of wull Moves is sensitive.
47:56
Speaker 16: But I do think that there are reasons to be
48:00
Speaker 16: cautiously confident.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think Trump has said repeatedly he wants
48:06
Speaker 2: this to be relatively quick. That's what his magabase will accept.
48:10
Speaker 2: You know, they want to be an in and out
48:13
Speaker 2: four weeks, five weeks, maybe two months of the max
48:15
Speaker 2: if they achieve their objectives, although he is committed to
48:19
Speaker 2: whatever time it takes, he said, but you're right, he
48:22
Speaker 2: doesn't want this stretching on months and months and months.
48:25
Speaker 2: But I just want to ask you about the impact
48:26
Speaker 2: that on inflation, so not just immediate petrol prices.
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Speaker 16: I look absolutely and as you and your viewers know, Shari,
48:37
Speaker 16: we've got an entrenched inflation problem in Australia. Inflation has
48:40
Speaker 16: been higher than the RBA's two to three percent ban
48:44
Speaker 16: for seventeen from the last eighteen quarters, so even before
48:48
Speaker 16: any shock to global oil markets, we have a serious
48:53
Speaker 16: inflation problem. And we have a central bank that I
48:56
Speaker 16: think is still in denial about its role in prematurely
49:00
Speaker 16: in cutting rates last year. And we've talked about that
49:03
Speaker 16: on your program before. So coming into this oil uncertainty
49:08
Speaker 16: and inflation uncertainty reflected in much higher bond yields for
49:12
Speaker 16: Australian government debt, we've got a serious inflation problem, so
49:17
Speaker 16: I do think that complicates the job for the RBA
49:20
Speaker 16: board next week. I think their credibility is hanging by
49:23
Speaker 16: a thread even before this war started in Iran, and
49:26
Speaker 16: I think their hand is going to be forced next week.
49:30
Speaker 16: The bond market traders are betting on much higher inflation
49:33
Speaker 16: in Australia. You can interpret the yields that way, and
49:36
Speaker 16: I think Michelle Bullock has to act sooner rather than
49:40
Speaker 16: later to stop inflation expectations starting to elevate, because once
49:45
Speaker 16: that happens, Sharry, interest rates have to go much higher,
49:48
Speaker 16: as you know, and we get five six, seven, eight
49:51
Speaker 16: percent unemployment. We don't want that.
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Speaker 2: The issue is that no matter what happens in the
49:56
Speaker 2: Middle East, even if this is a shot issue that's
49:59
Speaker 2: resolved quickly, it still gives the alban Easy government now
50:02
Speaker 2: an excuse. They'll say, you know, if they don't get
50:05
Speaker 2: inflation under control, they'll just blame global factors. As always,
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Speaker 2: David Pearl, good to have you on the show. Thanks
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Speaker 2: so much, and I'll see you tomorrow night at eight.
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Speaker 2: And here's Paul Murray