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8-11-26 Hour 1 - Kay Adams Day at Broncos Camp/Panathinaikosis back in our lives/No Butt Berman, Lutz's beef · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 2: You make me feel better about you not calling the place,
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  Speaker 3: I think.
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  Speaker 4: I think when you have a young coach like Davis
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  Speaker 4: and you see something in him and he's called plays
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  Speaker 4: in the preseason, like you remember Driver's ed when it
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  Speaker 4: was in high school and you had the steering wheel,
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  Speaker 4: but the but the teacher had the break and they
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  Speaker 4: were right next to you. This is before they went online.
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  Speaker 4: So I'll be next to them. And if there's something
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  Speaker 4: we need, he's not gonna fail, Like he's gonna be
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  Speaker 4: great at it, and I'm gonna make sure he is,
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  Speaker 5: we're out here at Camp UH for another day of
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  Speaker 5: Broncos training camp. I'll tell you this much whenever Kadams
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  Speaker 5: is in town. Whenever Kadams has her little set up here,
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  Speaker 5: Sean Payton gives the goods, and we got at least
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  Speaker 5: a little bit of the goods yesterday. Now, that was
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  Speaker 5: talking about Davis Webb taking over play calling duties and
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  Speaker 5: he is now the Driver's Ed teacher. That's he's got
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  Speaker 5: the break on his side of the car. And I
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  Speaker 5: still wonder is it weird to say, well, I have
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  Speaker 5: the e break in my hands so I can always
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  Speaker 5: pull it.
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  Speaker 2: Wouldn't the answer be, well, if you heard in the.
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  Speaker 5: Audio, Kay Adams was talking about Davis Webb taking over
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  Speaker 5: play calling duties and he goes, it's like being in
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  Speaker 5: driver's head, the guy who is the teacher still has
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  Speaker 5: the break on his side of the car.
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  Speaker 2: Ah. Wouldn't the proper answer just be like, I trust him,
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  Speaker 2: he's got it.
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  Speaker 4: You remember Driver's Ed when it was in high school
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  Speaker 4: and you had the steering wheel, but the but the
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  Speaker 4: teacher had the break and they were right next to you.
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  Speaker 2: This is before they went online.
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  Speaker 5: That wouldn't the answer just be like, no, he's good
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  Speaker 5: at this, Yeah, he's got it.
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  Speaker 2: That's why I go back to my original catch your
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  Speaker 2: breath catch your breath your okay, mosure is making me
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  Speaker 2: lose my breath, Moser. Did that guy check every orifice
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  Speaker 2: of your bag? Yeah, like he did my Did he
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  Speaker 2: do that to you? Uh? Yeah, but he did at
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  Speaker 2: six fifty or I'm sorry five to fifty this morning?
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  Speaker 2: Was that really necessary? Just make sure we're safe in here?
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  Speaker 2: Was that really necessary? I was? Was that really? I
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  Speaker 2: just want to know if that was truly necessary. You're
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  Speaker 2: not even on one, You're not even on you're not
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  Speaker 2: even playing.
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  Speaker 3: I was just hoping that a full body cavity search
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  Speaker 3: was going to follow.
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  Speaker 2: I've never seen anything like that. My fingers for it.
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  Speaker 2: But I've never seen anything like this. Hold on a second,
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  Speaker 2: hold on, stop everything. I've never seen anything like that
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  Speaker 2: before ts A foreign countries. I've never seen look look
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  Speaker 2: at my bag. I've never seen someone go through every
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  Speaker 2: single pocket of my bag, every single one. Why you
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  Speaker 2: got a bag with so many pockets? Everyone? Everyone, and
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  Speaker 2: then just like looking at stuff, putting it back in
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  Speaker 2: go here? Yeah, just digging. Well, that's what it is.
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  Speaker 2: We call it being.
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  Speaker 6: He's a thorough guy about it anyway.
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  Speaker 5: Uh, wouldn't the proper response from Sean Payton and maybe
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  Speaker 5: it's not. Maybe this is the right answer, but he's like, hey,
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  Speaker 5: what do you think of Davis webcllin plays instead of saying, well,
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  Speaker 5: I still got the break on my side of the car,
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  Speaker 5: just like he's got it.
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  Speaker 2: And that's why I go back to wondering who made
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  Speaker 2: this decision and why was it made?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Is that a fair question? I think it is, and
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  Speaker 2: it's been asked, and you know everybody tells u's Shawn
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  Speaker 2: made the decision. But do you believe it?
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  Speaker 5: I don't want to say I don't believe it? Do
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  Speaker 5: you I'm not I'm not convinced of it.
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  Speaker 3: I believe it. I mean, I'm kind of like Fox
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  Speaker 3: Mulder and X Files. I want to believe it. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know. I don't know that anybody in this in
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  Speaker 3: this organization though, Vic, whether it's Greg Penner, where it's
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  Speaker 3: Carry Penner, whether it's Rob Walton, because let's go to
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  Speaker 3: George Pate. I don't think anybody goes to Sean Payton says, Hey,
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  Speaker 3: football stud one of the best play callers the last
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  Speaker 3: thirty years of the league. Watch a layoff doing that
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  Speaker 3: and uh give it to the kid. I think God,
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  Speaker 3: isn't it it is, But I think that I don't
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  Speaker 3: think anybody went to him and said, hey, listen, you
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  Speaker 3: need to give it to Web. But I think they
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  Speaker 3: want to keep Davis Webb and this is a way
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  Speaker 3: to play Kate.
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  Speaker 2: But I think even then, even keeping a young, unproven
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  Speaker 2: coach play caller unproven, what are you pointing at? I'm
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  Speaker 2: just asking Jesse to center the camera a little bit
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  Speaker 2: more unproven, right, Isn't it a bit weird? You just
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  Speaker 2: hit you said it best? One of the best play
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  Speaker 2: callers in recent memory, one of the best play callers
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  Speaker 2: he was the first time you talk to him, he
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  Speaker 2: was proud of that. Okay, he said, I'm really good
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  Speaker 2: at it. Isn't it even after what happened in the
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  Speaker 2: AFC title game, Even after all that, isn't it a
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  Speaker 2: bit weird to ask one of the best at what
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  Speaker 2: he does to not do that anymore? It is?
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  Speaker 6: I think it's benefited though, because he said this.
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  Speaker 5: This happened to Bill Parcells and he's a disciple of
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  Speaker 5: his where he gave this up later in his coach career,
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  Speaker 5: So I do think that helps.
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  Speaker 2: But why, I mean, just because you do something that
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  Speaker 2: another guy does doesn't make it right, Here's why.
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  Speaker 6: I don't think it was good enough.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think it was good enough. And
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  Speaker 2: there's maybe the thought process was it wasn't good enough.
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  Speaker 2: And I contributed a little bit as to why.
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  Speaker 5: Now again, I think that you're you're asking a fair question,
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  Speaker 5: VIC on who made this decision? Now they have said
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  Speaker 5: it was Sean Payton. I don't know if I one
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  Speaker 5: hundred percent by it. I don't want to say I don't.
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  Speaker 5: But then it was followed up what makes us even
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  Speaker 5: more obtuse.
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  Speaker 2: I guess it was followed up by him signing an extension.
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  Speaker 2: So it's not like his job wasn't safe. No, his
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  Speaker 2: job was very safe. His job as secure as can be.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely it is, VIC, I don't know what to tell you.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how to tell you it. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know the answer to that. And if Kay Adams can't
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  Speaker 2: pride out of Sean Payton and nobody can, I'm making
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  Speaker 2: too much of it that the one thing that emerged
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  Speaker 2: yesterday is JK. Dobbins left the practice field with an
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  Speaker 2: apparent soft tissue injury. And it's the one player. It
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  Speaker 2: is the one guy in my opinion, outside of Bonnicks
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  Speaker 2: they can least afford to lose.
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  Speaker 6: On the offensive side.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, they can least afford to lose him defensive side.
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  Speaker 2: I think you throw some people out there. If you
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  Speaker 2: lose JK. Dobbins, your season will not be the same.
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  Speaker 2: Fair Well, that's what we saw last year.
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  Speaker 5: And it wasn't that the winning went away, but the
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  Speaker 5: way that they went about their offense did the second
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  Speaker 5: JK Dobbins was hurt was it was planner fashion?
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  Speaker 2: Right? Is that what it was last year? Yeah, Liz
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  Speaker 2: Frank Lis Frank say, I mean, look, whether it's Liz
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  Speaker 2: Frank Frank or h Steve plant To Fascier, Yeah, they're
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  Speaker 2: all the same, dude, Liz, she's the same gal in
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  Speaker 2: the foot.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I was just talking about this, like the the
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  Speaker 5: way that they went about their offense line last year,
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  Speaker 5: because I always stuck to one thing with Sean Payton
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  Speaker 5: through the three years that he was here and going
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  Speaker 5: into year three, it was I don't think that he
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  Speaker 5: had a lack of commitment to the run game. I
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  Speaker 5: think he had a lack of commitment to his running backs.
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  Speaker 5: I think that was his problem that he just didn't
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  Speaker 5: like the guys that were in the room and when
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  Speaker 5: they got JK. Dobbins here. I remember we were sitting
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  Speaker 5: at camp last year. He's a late signing, and I
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  Speaker 5: was trying to go through the numbers for people because
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  Speaker 5: word association with JK. Dobbins is this JK Dobbins hurt.
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  Speaker 5: That's the first thing people think of. And I go,
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  Speaker 5: if you eliminate the hurt part of that discussion, look
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  Speaker 5: at the numbers. He is win healthy, always one of
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  Speaker 5: the better running backs in the NFL. And he I
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  Speaker 5: mean when you look at his production yards per carry
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  Speaker 5: and so on, he's over five yards again, his explosive
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  Speaker 5: run rate is top five in the league.
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  Speaker 6: Every single year that he's healthy. He's a good running back.
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  Speaker 5: And when they had that, there was no question through
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  Speaker 5: the first half of the season or the Broncos committing
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  Speaker 5: to the run game. They did because their running back
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  Speaker 5: was good. And then he left, and then you're left
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  Speaker 5: with RJ. Harvey, You're left with Julia McLoughlin and Tyler Badey.
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  Speaker 5: And then all of a sudden, that commitment waned a
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  Speaker 5: little bit. Why because he didn't like him, not as
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  Speaker 5: much as he liked JK. Anyway, And so yeah, of
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  Speaker 5: course that's the concern, and he sounded a little I
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  Speaker 5: don't want to say salty, but salty ish yesterday because
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  Speaker 5: I think these soft tissue things are starting to get
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  Speaker 5: to him a little bit, because there's been a lot
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  Speaker 5: of guys who left with soft tissue.
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  Speaker 2: Stuff, and I think a lot of that is luck.
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  Speaker 2: I know that. Listen the Denver Broncos when they switched
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  Speaker 2: training guys, right, they switched out their conditioning leader, and yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and Lauren Landau he went to Notre Dame and he's
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  Speaker 2: running that program now. And I thought it was very
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  Speaker 2: unfair that they pinned a lot of the blame of
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  Speaker 2: their injuries to Lauren and his regiment. I thought that
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  Speaker 2: was very unfair. So they're bringing their guys in and
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  Speaker 2: which is fine. And yes, last year they were the
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  Speaker 2: second least injured team in the NFL. Well, but as
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  Speaker 2: I was watching that, I'm saying to myself, a lot
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  Speaker 2: of that is sheer luck. Sure, especially soft tissue. It's
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  Speaker 2: sheer luck. I don't want to hear anybody tell me
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  Speaker 2: that having a better trainer is gonna make you less injured.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes injuries happen out of sheer fortune. Okay, And you
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  Speaker 2: saw last year the Broncos were very fortunate this year.
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  Speaker 2: It could be different. You better buckle up. But what
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to hear is people taking credit for well,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we got the right people. No, No, I
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  Speaker 2: think a lot of it is luck. I think so,
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  Speaker 2: and you hear that all the time. Oh, there's there's
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  Speaker 2: something wrong with the Nuggets training regimen. No, a lot
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  Speaker 2: of it's just you know, when when Joker gets run
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  Speaker 2: into by Spencer Jones, that's luck.
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  Speaker 3: That's bad luck.
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  Speaker 2: Just what that is. There's no fixing, Okay, Now, consistent
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  Speaker 2: Aaron Gordon's consistent hamstring issues is that luck. No, I
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  Speaker 2: think there's something there. Sure, I think there's something there
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  Speaker 2: you can take.
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  Speaker 6: But some of these other.
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  Speaker 2: Injuries, Man, it happens. It happens, and you got to
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  Speaker 2: if you're if you're standing there and a guy gets
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  Speaker 2: knocked down or falls down and rolls up into you, Ah,
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  Speaker 2: so you know on the back of your legs. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I don't give a crap how long you're in the
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  Speaker 2: gym every single day or what kind of what regiment
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  Speaker 2: you're on. If a guy rolls up into you and
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  Speaker 2: sprains your ankle, it's bad luck. What I'm getting at
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  Speaker 2: is this So for the last two years, Sean Payton
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  Speaker 2: has been gushing, praising bol howuring his crew here for
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  Speaker 2: the Broncos and their lack of injuries. What is he
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  Speaker 2: now to blame? So now he's to blame when before
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  Speaker 2: he was to to thank and praise. Is that how
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  Speaker 2: this works? No? I think it's a bunch of bs.
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  Speaker 2: You know that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, sure, I will tell you this. I thought this
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  Speaker 5: his last forget last year. The last couple of years,
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  Speaker 5: they've been really good in the injury department, and I
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  Speaker 5: think the same way you do, Vic. I think a
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  Speaker 5: lot of this is just it's it's luck. And I
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  Speaker 5: am concerned a little bit this year year with what
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  Speaker 5: that could look like because you haven't really had to
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  Speaker 5: deal with it. It's why I'm a I'm a preseason sicco.
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  Speaker 5: It's why I love the preseason. It's because as much
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  Speaker 5: as you're like, these aren't NFL players, those guys are
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  Speaker 5: fighting for the forty eight, forty ninth, fifty to fifty
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  Speaker 5: first spot on the roster. Those kind of guys, if
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  Speaker 5: you have a team that comes through a rash of injuries,
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  Speaker 5: they're now responsible for you keeping the winning going. They're
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  Speaker 5: responsible for you staying in a wild card race. They're
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  Speaker 5: responsible for all this stuff. And we've seen just in
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  Speaker 5: this initial thrust of preseason or a training camp. I
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  Speaker 5: should say, you've had some key guys, whether it's Mims
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  Speaker 5: or Waddle or Sutton or Dobbins or whoever, that are like, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: we'll just take the next few.
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  Speaker 6: Days off for you. I don't want to push anything.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think that's a smarter pro of course. Well, hey, listen, JK.
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  Speaker 2: Dobbins ain't playing Friday night.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 2: If you walk off the practice field on a Monday,
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  Speaker 2: ain't no way you're gonna settle a sho Sean.
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  Speaker 3: Page that indicated that most, if not all the starters
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  Speaker 3: will get a couple of snaps.
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  Speaker 2: At least.
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  Speaker 3: That's not gonna be Dobbins. It's not gonna be Waddle,
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  Speaker 3: it's not gonna well, maybe it's gonna be Marvin. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know if he's gonna be in or out. But
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  Speaker 3: everybody else is gonna get some everybody else is gonna
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  Speaker 3: get a little bit of a taste Brett. So get
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  Speaker 3: ready for that, guys.
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  Speaker 2: Yesterday I learned something during my interview with Will Watts,
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  Speaker 2: and we'll play a portion of that interview at sometimes, Jesse,
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  Speaker 2: if you can reach out to Jenny to see if
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  Speaker 2: we can get that interview. I learned something I did
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  Speaker 2: not know about the AFC title game. I was not aware.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not surprised, but I was not aware. I asked him.
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  Speaker 2: I asked. I said, that kick in the fourth quarter
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  Speaker 2: that was partially blocked, You remember that. And they didn't
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  Speaker 2: know what yardage line they were set up online. They
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  Speaker 2: didn't know if the whole operation was intact. He told me.
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  Speaker 2: When they got to the huddle and they got to
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  Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage, they couldn't see the goal posts.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god. They couldn't see him. They couldn't see
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  Speaker 2: the goalposts. They said, well, let's just aim here. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: he's looking for the goal posts in that blizzard. They're
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  Speaker 2: searching for where to aim the ball. Now, at the
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  Speaker 2: end of the day, it didn't matter because the ball
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  Speaker 2: was partially blocked. Yeah, but it became a guessing game. Sure.
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  Speaker 2: And the more I think about that game, the more
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  Speaker 2: ridiculous those conditions were. And thankfully we don't have to
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  Speaker 2: worry about that ridiculousness anymore. Once the new stadium in
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  Speaker 2: its roof comes on board. Yeah, because that's stupid when
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  Speaker 2: a winner squall affects the eye sight and you can't
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  Speaker 2: see the goalposts. What is that? Well, it used to
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  Speaker 2: be real football. That's not right now today. Well, I
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  Speaker 2: mean you've heard the Ice Bowl and everything else in
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  Speaker 2: Green Bay.
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  Speaker 3: Nowadays, we have the luxury and the technology to build
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  Speaker 3: stadiums that actually have the tops on them. Right, nineteen
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  Speaker 3: sixty five and nineteen sixty seven, they don't have that
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  Speaker 3: kind of thing. Yeah, that's why you're playing close Minneapolis, Minnesota,
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  Speaker 3: with the ground as hard as concrete and guys blood
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  Speaker 3: all over their face.
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  Speaker 6: A clothes on used to be drying your clothes. Now
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  Speaker 6: we have a dryer. I like the dryer better.
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  Speaker 3: There there you go.
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  Speaker 2: H three oh three five four nine five? Hey can
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  Speaker 2: we Can you and I trade headphones?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 2: Because I've forgot my personal headphones at home. That sounds
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  Speaker 2: like a personal problem. It is because I have these
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  Speaker 2: big ones on. Now.
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  Speaker 3: It's like putting two pillows on your head, but it
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  Speaker 3: squeezes my head.
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  Speaker 2: You use that one. That's the same damn one that
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  Speaker 2: I have on right now? Taking these off? I put
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  Speaker 2: them on on, not taking them. You want to trade nope.
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  Speaker 2: I've been using this for over now.
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  Speaker 5: So you guys are gonna punish me on purpose? No, No,
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  Speaker 5: I'm just I'm the guy who does his job. He
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  Speaker 5: must be the other guy.
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  Speaker 3: You can go home now, guy, really.
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  Speaker 6: Adam Schefter is going to join us at nine twenty.
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  Speaker 5: Rama's Laws. This is gonna be a last down here
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  Speaker 5: this week before the Moroncos have a we'll call it
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  Speaker 5: a private practice tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: I'll be your private day and then.
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  Speaker 5: Play their first preseason game Friday against Atlanta.
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  Speaker 2: Atlanta Falcons are waiting. What are we doing?
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  Speaker 6: I don't know what he's doing.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know this.
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  Speaker 3: It's about the time of year when I'm at training camp.
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  Speaker 3: It's August freaking eleventh. August eleventh, So what.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: Are you doing? So what are you doing? Why are
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: you doing that? Just being a boored deal hole? Okay,
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: aren't you? Aren't you a board deal hole right now? No,
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: that's you and I just do our sports talk today.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: You guys, go ahead, you go right ahead, because I
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: need a game. What do you think?
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: Don't I don't give a rats.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: I need a game.
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: I think there's about five hundred people over here that
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: would love to sit in your seat.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: Right, yeahy don't you go over there and talk to those?
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: So how about you do that? If you're so bored,
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: give up your seat.
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: There's nobody. There's nobody there yet.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: Okay, you just you and you talk to Jesse. Hey,
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: just what's up buddy?
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: How are you doing so good?
• 16:47
  Speaker 6: Here's what I tell you.
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: I think a couple of things I do want to
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: get the more Sean Payton stuff. In a second. I
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: didn't think I was gonna have to say these this
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: word ever again, this proper down. The Panathonikos guy set
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: some stuff though that I didn't like it.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: I'm all tired of this guy.
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: So here's the story. The the owner of Panathoniko. So
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: we have gotten in a war with previously.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: It's on with Greece again.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: Okay, listen, we settled it, We settled the true and
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: we had a truce. Everything was fine, all good. All
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: of a sudden here comes Greece and they want it again.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: Well, it's not Greece, it's this guy. He's quite the
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: ex than Greeks. Than Greeks, real, your guy, even Greek,
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: and your boar even Greeks. I I went back and
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: looked at some Even the Greeks who are fans of
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: Panathonikos understand that this guy's talking out of his backside.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: They even know it. Okay, they get it. This guy
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: is using. He's trying to go big here in front
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: of his hometown fans and in front of the euro League.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: Look at what we're gonna do. His name is Demetrius
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: gian I believe it's Dimitri Yankopolis.
• 18:03
  Speaker 6: He here's what he said. He goes.
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: There is one player who remains a dream of mine
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: whom I haven't signed yet, but I will sign next year.
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: It's Jokic, the best player in the world. This year,
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: I made a very serious offer to both his team
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: and him. I tried to buy out the last year
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: of his contract, but I was rejected. Let's wait for
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: next year.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: So here he is. First of all, he looks like
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: a bond villain. That's number one, number two.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: Look at that guy.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: He's young.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: It's probably like one of those shipping magnets.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: He's only fifty two years old. Pharmaceutical industrial Okay, he's
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: a rich dude that wants to feel like he's part
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: of the cool party.
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: And that's what this is. Now, here's what I need
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: to know. I need Pablo Torre, wherever the investigative reporters are, now.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: Give me that offer.
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: I want to know what that offer was when he
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: says I made a very serious offer to both him
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: and team. So first of all, I'd have to buy
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: out Jokic's contract from the Nuggets, which is borderline sixty
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: million dollars. Then he would have to make an offer
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: that is competitive with what Yokic is going to get
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: next year. When he's offered the extension, which is seventy
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: five ish million dollars a year.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: He's gonna have show me that offer. He's gonna have
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: to come up with three hundred million dollars, because that's
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: what show me. Joko's assured over three hundred million dollars
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: if he continues to sign his contracts with the Denver Nuggets.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: All right, he's assured a quarter of a billion dollars.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: If he can produce a quarter of a billion, we
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: have a story.
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: Well, from I think what Bobby Mark said, signing next year,
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: it would be five years, three hundred and sixty million
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: somewhere in that ballpark. It's almost impossible. For anybody to
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: reach that number. Now, I will say this, Jokic and
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: and this, this is something I mentioned when this offseason started.
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: I think this offseason might kill Nuggets fans, and it's
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: gotten close. This next nine months is going to kill
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: them even more because you're gonna hear Panathonikos people stepping up.
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: You're gonna hear teams are creating cap space for Jokic
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: following the year to try and convince him to sign
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: with them. All of that stuff's gonna happen.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: But go ahead, listen to some listen to this guy.
• 20:19
  Speaker 6: This is the fact that Coach.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: The fact that ESPN, and again this is an incredible
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: news source, ESPN would give credence to this story is shameful.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: I'm calling you out, and I'm gonna tell Leggy that
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: too today because he writes for ESPN.
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: So he's a shame guilty by associations.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: I don't care. It's shameful that ESPN would listen to
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: this guy, all right. In the spring of nineteen ninety nine,
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: this Jenikoboppolis barged into the Pentathonaucus locker room after a
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: loss in a game against Olympiacos and provoked the opposing
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: team's head coach, resulting in the team's center Dino Raja,
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: physically accosting Jiankonopolis. So he got into a fight with
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: opposing player after a game.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: Well, I remember, I remember Dino Costa or Roger I remember.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: In April of twenty eleven, he with his bodyguards invaded
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: the offices of a website, the Gazetta dot gr, threatening
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: employees and their families. The reason because the website allowed
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: comments on articles that slandered him. In twenty sixteen, he
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: insulted some guy Spanulas by wishing his son to die
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: goodness and then was forced to apologize afterwards. In January
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, he offered ten thousand euro for information about
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: an Olympiacos fan who had spat at him during a
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: basketball game. It goes on and on and on. In retaliation,
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: supporters of Panatheaco's opposing team hurled stones at his home
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: for what it says he vanalyized a Panathoniko supporter's kebab shop. Dude,
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: this guy is wacko. This guy is wacko. He has
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: a lot of money and he's wacko. Just because you
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: have a lot of money and you you you're born
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: into your family's pharmaceutical company, which he is, doesn't make
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: him legit. That is an illegitimate story, and all it's
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: doing is making Nuggets fan upset.
• 22:19
  Speaker 6: Well, here's the other thing.
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: I saw this in the Appathizer, and I want to
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: reemphasize something here. Somebody said, I'm getting I'm getting pretty
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: sick of Jokic holding the Nuggets hostage.
• 22:32
  Speaker 6: And I just want to be clear about something nobody's told.
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: Nobody's doing that. He's not holding the Nuggets hostage. Yokic
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: is doing what he's done I think every year around
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: this time, which is biding his time and waiting for
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: the maximum dollar value to return to him. That's all
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: that's happening. And it reminds me he guys knowing there's
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: a really good prospect either in college basketball or college
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: football that you're like in in whenever he's eligible for
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: the draft, that guy's gonna be the number one overall pick,
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: but it might take a couple of years because he's young.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Like Andrew Luck.
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: One of those guys gets into college, you watch him
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: play once, you're like, that's a number one overall pick,
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: but he couldn't declare until his junior year or whatever.
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: And then as time goes on, people get kind of
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: sick and tired of just saying, yeah, this guy's awesome.
• 23:18
  Speaker 6: He's a number one overall picks. What do they do?
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: Got some question about his knees. I don't think he
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: does this very well. You start to nitpick because it's
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: boring to say the same thing over and over again.
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: The yokid stuff is going to hit the maximum amount
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: of that because here's the answer already has for me,
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: as what is he doing.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: He's weighing keep three and sixty to add another year
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: to his contract to make another seventy five to eighty
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: million dollars, and in doing so.
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: What that should mean to people is he plays for
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: the Nuggets for an extra year. That's a good thing,
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: you know.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: Not to be.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Joker could also resolve a lot of this too, by
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: just being a little more open and vocal about his
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: intentions rather than just sort of meeking love. Let me
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: just come out and just say it, man, Hey, I
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: ain't going anywhere. Calm down.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah he has, but he did say with a little
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: more resiliency. I guess okay, Well, I mean, how many
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: times does he have to say it.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know. People believe I don't know. I don't know.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: But he's going to finish his career as a Denver
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: nugget and then rought off into the horse riding sunset.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: That's what it is. There's no question in my mind.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: Why are we talking about.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Twenty twenty one hundred Panathonikos supporters attacked the owner's house,
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: hurling stones and paint and insults. All right, a lot
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: of By the way, we'll say, careful what you say
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: on the show, though, dude, this guy's reached might before.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: I will say this, though I've seen pictures of Greece.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: I've never been to Greece, been around Greece, never been
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: in Greece. A lot of rocks in Greece, A lot
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: of rocks. There's a lot of rocks, right, I mean,
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: I'm looking around. I'm like, God, if I if I
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: need to rock, I probably go to Greece and grab
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: me a rock, because there's lots of them there. They
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: built a lot of stuff out of rocks. You're loud?
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: You are loud?
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: God?
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Am I really loud? Yes? Go on, They've got a
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: lot of stuff, rots and grease and have I had
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: throw a rock. All right.
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, here's the other thing about.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: This is okay, so this is it? Then this Tuesday
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: here at camp dude, this is this is the day
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: I lose it. So you're welcome.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: You're provoking me into losing it, and I hope that
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: you realize everything becomes your way from me from this
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: point on.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: That's on you. All right. I just got word that
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Greg Penner will meet with the media later this morning
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: at eleven am. Why this morning, Well, because the final
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: piece of the puzzle for the burnham Yard Stadium was
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: filled yesterday with the purchase of that concrete plant. Yeah,
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: burnham Yard area. What's crazy about the purchase of that
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: concrete plant? Sorry, am I believe it's called fifty five
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: million dollars that they have to pay for that concrete plant.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: Fifty five million, which is like to remove it, to
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: buy it, to buy this bay, gotcha got to buy it.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: They're moving, they're moving it up north. So they paid
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: fifty five million for the sucker, which is fifteen million
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: more than they've paid for the entire burnham Yard area.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: So that was the last holdout and they got it bought.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: And now that concrete plant is moving and uh, they're
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: pretty happy about it, obviously because they got fifty five million.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: And again, what was holding this up? What was holding
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: this up? A lot of money? Yeah, a lot of money.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: More please more, please, more please. Well, I don't know
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: how much a concrete plant costs. I don't know how
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: I'll say, I'll tell you what.
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: I don't know how much it costs either, but it
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: costs a hell of a lot more when you're trying
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: to build an NFL stadium on top of it.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: The price went up, right, the price went up. I'll
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: tell you what.
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: If I had a little like you know, those little
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: coffee shops that are basically like ten feet by ten feet,
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: a little driving one.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if I had that there, I'm like, I do
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: good business. This is a twenty million dollars coffee. Is
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: there any way you can find out? All right? So
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: they paid fifty five million, which is ten million more,
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: ten million more than the entire Burnham yard itself. Can
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: anyone find out? SRM concrete? How much is it even worth?
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: How much is something like that worth? Because they just
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: got fifty five million, and good for them, you know, hey, man,
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: I'm not get your money. The CEO Jeff Hollingshead said,
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: quote it says UH.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: Financial estimates credit ratings annual revenue near three point eight
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: billion dollars, so they make they it's a pretty pretty
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: big They have over five hundred and sixty plants around
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: the country.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Okay, but this is the one plant in Denver, right,
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: I'm not talking about the entire I'm talking about this
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: plant here SR Concrete. We're proud to contribute to something
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: that we believe can have a meaningful Jeuweal.
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: SRM concrete plan is worth between three and seven million
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: dollars on average.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: They just got fifty million. Well that's what I'm getting.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: Their estimated annual revenue as a company is four hundred
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: and forty six point two million per year.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: It's the entire Well, I understand that.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying it's a it's a very large company,
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: and they're obviously not you know, they're not screwing around
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: when they have this diamond in a goats tail city
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: at Burnham Yard.
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: So here you go, right here is this is according
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: to our robot overlords in primial estate markets where land
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: value is exponentially higher and SRM property can fetch significantly
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: more for example, Denver, Bronco's finalized the deal to buy
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: s orm Concrete parcel Wedge near Burnham Yard to clear
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: space for a new stadium project. The six city parcels
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: include are involved carried a standalone assess value of fifteen
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: point six million.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: All right, so the value per assessments was fifteen and
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: a half million dollars. They got fifty five That's the
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: price of a stadium in Burnham Yard. That's what we
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: like to call it the old price. Yeah, until you
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: want to do what your stadium were Again again, listen,
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: I'm not berating them for their playing the game, right,
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: this is the corporate game. We would be done. They
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: were the last holdout. But last hold what I hear
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: when I hear comments we're proud because of the Come on, man,
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: you're proud because you got fifty five million.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: That's why you're proud. Who are the people that hired
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: the pr firm? Again?
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: Who are those people? Those are the community advocates? Okay,
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: I mean that's they're like.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: Listen, that concrete plant was important to the foundation of
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: what we are as a community. I mean, nobody's bitching
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: and I saw the land. Let's go Isaac let's go.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: I don't feel sorry for them. They can afford it.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: Nobody feels sorry. This isn't a sympathy gestre. It's just
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: I'm just trying to explain why this takes so long
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: due process, that's all. I'm just trying to explain. As
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: soon as it was discovered that the Broncos were interested
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: in that area, because remember these were all secret LLC's,
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: anonymous LLC's that were looking to purchase these areas, right yeah, right,
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: And as soon as word got out that the LC's
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: were the Broncos, the price just went up. Yeap, that's
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: all I'm saying.
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: Well, in any part of this, you gotta feel like
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: if you're this concrete plant or anybody else that was
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: in there, like you won the lottery.
• 30:16
  Speaker 6: Yeah, your your property value.
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: Increased four or five times of what it was before,
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: because Burnham Yard is a crap hole, yeah, where they
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: make concrete break, concrete smoke, crack, and weeds grow bright.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: But kay, and you'll be uh, you be the concrete company.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: Okay, Hey, I see you got that nice piece of dirt,
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: that twenty x thirty piece of dirt there. It's really
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: good looking dirt.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: I really love this area.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: It's beautiful.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: Do you listen.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: I I think you make kids out here every day.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: It's it's whole sentimental life.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: Well, if I'm gonna if I'm gonna build this McDonald's,
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: I kind of I kind of need that piece of dirt.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's good looking dirt.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Bro, Are you building McDonald's. I'm thinking about it.
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: I heard there was something else that might be coming here,
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: and I gotta tell you, the more that I've watched
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: and the more news that I've read lately, the more
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: it holds a place in my heart that I just
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: I don't know if I can replace.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: Sometimes you just come and stand on your dirt, your
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: piece of dirt, for hours on end, staring at it.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: Right, we like to preserve the area. I do want
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: to say, though, some of the best smell I take
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: my children on picnics here. Some of the best smells
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: that one can smell in life. You know, freshly mode grass.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Fresh concrete is a great smell. That's just I'm gonna
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: tell you right now. Fresh concrete coming off that truck,
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: pouring into whatever sidewalk or retaining wall you need to fill.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: That concrete coming in that smell. That's damn good. And
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: if you guys can't respect that, I don't know who
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: I'm talking to. You're not even American pine tar. No,
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: no fresh concrete. I guarantee Jesse respects it. I guarantee
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: you do, right, Jesse. Yeah, See, you could have.
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: Said anything to Jesse was gonna not this ahead at you. Yeah, literally,
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: anything you said you.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Got like Mitchell, you don't respect it, do you?
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: No?
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: Never heard of it? See fresh concrete? You never heard
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: of concrete? Freshly mode grass uh three oh three, five
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: oh four oh nine two someone to get in the
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: concrete business, like, hey, you know what I fee I'm
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: gonna do. I'm just gonna start mixing concrete.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: We gotta have a vowel at the end of your
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: name first of all. Oh, I wonder if yeah, hey,
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: I wonder if the company too is now going to
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: be hired by the Bronco's to actually build do concrete
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: for the new State media part of the deal. You
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: talk about a double dip.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: A roue, holy crap fifty.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: And your business.
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: I'll take both, please, thank you very much. Three oh three,
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: five oh four oh nine two five shot mads. The
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: text line one price one person one hour back after this, Okay,
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: we're out here at Broncos Park. Another day at Broncos
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: training camp, or final day this week before they have
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: a private practice tomorrow head out to Atlanta for preseason
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: game number one.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: What did Moser do for the entire four minut of
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: commercial break? Asked us about his shirt? Yeah, asked us, Hey,
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: what do you think about my shirt? To which you
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: and I replied, I don't get it. That's not what
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: that's That is not what happened at all. Mitchell when
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: we went to break, goes, where'd you get that? And
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: so I told him and I said you, I said,
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: you're Mitchell Chris. You're the only one that gets it.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: Nobody else understands this.
• 33:18
  Speaker 6: Can I say it again?
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't care whether you care or not.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying, you're all neophytes.
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: You don't. You don't know Jack about Jack?
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: Is your Is your shirt supposed to be some sort
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: of riddle that we're supposed to solve?
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: You know? No? I just like it.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: I couldn't give a Why do you keep asking us?
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Then we think about your shirt? I did.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: I did not even ask one to you asked us.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: You mean, well, I mean to comment. You guys don't
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: know what the hell it is, so whyt it just
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: buzz off, That's what I said, all right, just just
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: buzz off. What does the shirt represent? I'll have somebody
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: tell you. In fact, let me put it to the
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: camera and they can type it in and they can
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: tell you get it.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: It's a shark and it has quints on it. Sitting
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: on the radio, quince, So it's Jaws, that is correct?
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: Is that the store where Jaws? It's the it's the
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: guy who Roy Scheider and uh what's his face? Yeah,
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: it's okay, went out of the boat to go get
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: the big old fish.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: I have.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: I have a more important story, did I Did I
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: tell you my favorite jazz story though, Ron jo Orski? No, no, no,
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: the movie Jaws. If you played Jaws backwards, it's just
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: a heartwarming story of a shark giving back body parts
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: to people.
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: I heard you say that on the air last week.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: I told you Benjamin Button is just a lame story
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: about a kid growing up.
• 34:38
  Speaker 6: That's all it is.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: It is funny, like the idea that Benjamin Button. The
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: whole appeal of the movie is he starts as an
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: old man and becomes a baby, and and if you
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: play it reverse, it's just a stupid story about a
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: kid growing up. What's funnier is a shark going up
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: to a an here you go and a lot of blood.
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: I have a I have a more important story. And
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: I don't know how to set this up, so just
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: give me a second. I am someone that uh, I
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: have been cursed by my father. I don't have a butt.
• 35:21
  Speaker 6: Okay, it's just it's something I just don't have.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: I don't have this. And and as men age, they
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: they for whatever reason. I don't know if this is
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: some sort of.
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: Anatomy thing, if this is genetics, if this is whatever
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: squats do some well, my legs have been hurting for
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: four days because I try.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: Well, so I'm trying.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: But you just men lose.
• 35:46
  Speaker 6: Men lose their butts. They just disappear.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: They turn into frogs standing up, or or like a
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: pug that's on its hind legs. And I realized something.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: I've only seen Chris sperm and sitting behind a desk.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: You've never seen him standing.
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I saw him stand yesterday. Somebody took video of
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: him at the Pro Football Hall of fame and Nelly.
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: If you can help me out by throwing this up.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: Man, this is mean, dude, This isn't mean.
• 36:13
  Speaker 6: This isn't even me making fun, Yes, yes it is.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: It is.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: Why do older men get this body build? What happens here?
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: What what we're watching?
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: If you're watching on YouTube, if you're watching on Twitch,
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: if you're watching on altitude television? What is the What
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: is the build that happens in older men as they age?
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: Where that happened that?
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: There's nothing? You make it sound like every older man
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: has that build. I'm an older man.
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: I don't have that.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: Those mosures are really old. You man, he doesn't have that.
• 36:41
  Speaker 6: You guys don't know what I'm talking about. You know
• 36:44
  Speaker 6: what I'm talking about.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: Older men lose whatever it is with a but that
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: there's no butt? What? What's the term that the kids
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: like to do with their pants? What's that sagging? I
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: think he's just sagging. He's trying to be a little
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: more kid friendly.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: I mean he twenty one years old.
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: As I said, it's when guys get older that disappears.
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: I'm wondering if there's some sort of doctor that's listening
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: that knows the reason.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: For Messa, Chris Berman. He's a legend. Dude, he's a legend.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: You know what, you know, he's just you know what happened.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: You're mad because we won't go along with you making
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: fun of a broadcast legend when I when I start
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: the segment, segment, I don't have a butt. I don't
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: have one.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: Well, just because you admit that you don't have one,
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: doesn't mean he can make fun of his lack of one.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: When I'm seventy one, there's gonna be some dork who
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: right now is in his teens or what he's gonna
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: be going. Look at this old man, look at look
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: at this guy walking around with his quich.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: But we do that already. Well, yeah, we do that already, moj.
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: Look I love Boomer. Boomer's my favorite. I grew up
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: with Boomer. I just realized that I've just never seen
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: him standing before ever.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: He does those Carshield commercials. He's walking around. There is
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: your car about to explode? Get some get some stuff in.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: Case it explodes.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I'm doing lunges today. I'm going
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: to get on it.
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: I don't give it.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: Okay, easy care, easy, you're doing lungs. You know what
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: we're gonna do between commercial breaks? You and I are
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: gonna go right there. No, my leg's hurt too bad,
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: They still hurt. Get the lactic acid flowing and they'll
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: stop hurting. Okay, all right, so a couple lunges. Thank
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: you Chris Berman for motivating. Yes, exactly what. I can't
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: look like there's value. Did you guys happen?
• 38:39
  Speaker 6: Speaking of butts and legs and kickers, do you guys
• 38:42
  Speaker 6: hear what Will what said?
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: Yesterday?
• 38:43
  Speaker 6: He was upset at us. He was he was a
• 38:45
  Speaker 6: mad kicker.
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: And Nelly, let me know when you got the audio ready,
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: because Will Lutts he comes out here like all these
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: specialists do.
• 38:54
  Speaker 6: They do their own thing off to the side, and
• 38:55
  Speaker 6: he said this.
• 38:57
  Speaker 7: All right, I kick a seventy three order the other
• 38:59
  Speaker 7: day and no one says a word. But Brandon Jones
• 39:01
  Speaker 7: is an extra point and my timeline's going off all right,
• 39:05
  Speaker 7: So that's right.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: So Brandon and I work together a lot.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: He's got a he's got a passion for it. So
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: I respect that I'm distracted.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: Was that after you're sitting there, if you're sitting there
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: for hearing all of them ceremony and your phone's blowing
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: up with that? Was it a little surprising?
• 39:18
  Speaker 7: It wasn't surprising because I knew it was coming, and
• 39:20
  Speaker 7: I wasn't surprised if Brandon made three out of four.
• 39:23
  Speaker 7: He's he's talented and he enjoys it, which is uh,
• 39:26
  Speaker 7: it's fun for me to be able to work with him.
• 39:28
  Speaker 7: But I'm gonna get a repid safety at some point here,
• 39:30
  Speaker 7: and I expect everyone to talk about it.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: All right, two things tell me that Will Watts just
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: his voice doesn't sound exactly like Nate Bergazzi, exactly.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: Just give me a little bit more, give me a
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: little bit more. All right.
• 39:47
  Speaker 7: I kick a seventy three yarder the other day and
• 39:49
  Speaker 7: no one says a word for Brandon Jones is an
• 39:52
  Speaker 7: extra A little bit, a little.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: Bit, there's a little bit bargatzi. Good, okay, Nelly, if
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: you would side by the side Will. But well, it's easy.
• 40:02
  Speaker 6: We'll give him time. We'll give him the time.
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: The Bargazzi is George Washington. Those those skits from SNL,
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: those are classic skits.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: Sounds just like now. I will say this to his point.
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: I'm sure it is annoying when somebody does his job
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: that everybody says is so easy, and they get a
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: wild applause for doing something that's supposed to be easy for.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: Those that are not aware, Brandon Joe's the safety who
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: kicked a thirty five yarder and kick kicked consistently. Yeah,
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: he's got a soccer background. He's the backup kicker on
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: the st He's got a soccer background, grew up playing soccer,
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: didn't play football until later in his youth. He said,
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: when his career in.
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: Football is done, he doesn't care what age he is,
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: he's going to try out for an MLS.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: Yes, he loves soccer, really, it's his favorite sport. Yeah,
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: Brandon Jones loves soccer and will he'll he'll never make
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: Will let's start in soccer and figured, man, I've seen
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: the end of this sport. I need to do something else,
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: and then moved over to football in high school. I
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: thought it was interesting too, as they were going, why
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: is Jones doing this? Well, Crossshaw the craw dad, let's
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: the backup punter, but he's not the backup kicker a
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: cross Shaw doesn't know how to kick a.
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: Foot because Australian punters don't know how to kick, but
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: they they never had to correct.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: They learned from this tutor down there, this mentor who
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: teaches all these guys how to punt, and they do
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: a great job. But you're right, kicking and punting not
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: nearly the same things. As a matter of fact, did
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: you guys see Will LUTs punting yesterday firing off sixty artist?
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, really good punter too. It was McAfee was
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: a kicker in college that turned into a punter in
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: the NFL. Right, I cannot wait to get this interview
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: that I did with Will Lutts so I can prove
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: to you guys. Do you remember a couple of years
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: ago on this show, I I had a theory, an
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: hypothesis that I provided to you. I said, great kickers
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: become great golfers because it's the same motion. And you
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: guys laughed at me, you left at me. Do you
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: remember that, I said, it's the same process, it's the
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: same and and you know what, I had a fifteen
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: minute conversation with Will Wats about it. He won to
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: shootout Cherry Creek Country Club, by the way, he wouldn't
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: have his member guest. I had a full conversation with
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: him about it, and he agreed entirely. Every little aspect
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: a kicker and a golfer, it's the same motion. That's
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: why kicker. Well, just we'll get that a little bit later.
• 42:21
  Speaker 6: I do say something, does he what does he know?
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: As a hang on as I'm going to call myself
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: a staunch defender of the kickers union.
• 42:32
  Speaker 6: I was talking about this the other day.
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: People who make fun of kickers and think kickers don't
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: matter don't fundamentally understand the impact that they have on
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: legacies across this sport, on coaches, on quarterbacks. Gotch Adam Vinitari,
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: who was just in the induction in the Hall of
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: Fame on Saturday, and.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: We didn't play what he said about Belichick. That was
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you this much, Adam VNITII is at least.
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: A huge slice of the pie responsible for how we
• 43:05
  Speaker 5: feel about Tom Brady's a winner. If he's not hitting
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: kicks in the in a blizzard, If Vinetari is not
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: hitting kicks to win Super Bowls, tom Brady might not
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: have six rings, maybe has four, maybe three.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: I don't disagree. I do not disagree with you. They
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: matter a lot, they do, and will lutts is one
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: of the best kickers in the league, which which is
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: why I believe largely that kickers are undervalued and underpaid
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: in this league. I totally agree with you, and I've
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: said that for the longest time that Dudent Houston's doing
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: the Dudent Dallas was making seven per good he should.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: He should take a look at the Broncos roster and
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: just pick two players. All right, take it Will Lutz's salary.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: Let's pull up Will Luts's Broncos payroll.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: I bet he makes four and a half.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: And I'll go through the payroll and I'll ask you
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: who is more valuable to this team? Player A or
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: player B? All right, who is more valuable to the
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: Broncos Will Lutts or see what is Will LUTs?
• 44:00
  Speaker 5: He's at five point three, Milka, he makes good money,
• 44:02
  Speaker 5: all right, Will Lutts? Or pick another player Bonis he
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: makes a million less than he does. Johnny Barns at
• 44:12
  Speaker 5: four point five? Lose more important than will Adam Troutman
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: a five point six?
• 44:16
  Speaker 6: Who's more important to team? Jarrett Stidham at six, Who's.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: More important to the team. And you can do this
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: with every roster in the NFL. So for people to
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: devalue kickers and make these it's I'm not devaluating a kicker.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: But what I'm telling you when this is the argument
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: we got to do with Jesus. Last week, Jesse on
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: this program, Raj and I got into.
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: It, it's easier to find somebody who can do what
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: Will Lutz does or do that.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: No, it's not, otherwise they wouldn't be recycling kicking.
• 44:50
  Speaker 6: I think that's totally untrue.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: I think you're totally wrong. That's why that that's why
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: that position is such a recycled position because you lose
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: your fastball real quick. You lose it's like all you
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: you get the yips. Okay, you start. Will LUTs has
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: seen it. Listen to me.
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: Will Lutts is one of the very best at what
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: he does in the league. I agree with that. But
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: it's easier to find somebody who can kick a football
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: at a high enough level, a high enough level for
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: you to win and whatnot and get buy whatever it
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: may be, than to find that backup quarterback.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: Just not true, completely not true. Okay, completely disagree. All right, fine,
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: I mean you're not gonna convince me any different. That's fine.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: I mean you're you're undervaluing the skill. And I'm just
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: telling you a lot of these dudes are just big born,
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: big genetically and if you gave me six foot six,
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: three hundred pounds, I could craft you into something I
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: can't craft you and do it.
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: Okayoul, do you want me to get into the Okay,
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: who's more important to the Colorado Avalanche's at Scott Wedgwood
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: or Logan O'Connor.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: It goes back to that home. It's that soccer thing
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: where people say, well, you know, America's got the greatest
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: athletes in the world, We'll form the best soccer team ever.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: I even brought this up with Will LUTs. People don't understand.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: It's ingrained, it's organic. Just because you're a great athlete
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: doesn't make you a great soccer player.
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: But the argument is always if that's what they focused
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: on when they were ten years old, like Messi did.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: Even if you focus on it, you have to be
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: in the right environment. You have to play. But gets
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: the right competition with the right coaching. There's a lot
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: of different things. Man, I'll tell you what, why don't
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: we get the break? And you can, folks, I'll tell
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: you what you can focus on was that's supposed to
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: be like a walk off, something telling you.
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: You started this today, that you start this is on you,
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: not me.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: Okay, Adam Schefter at nine to twenty this morning.
• 46:35
  Speaker 6: Stick around, all right.
• 46:36
  Speaker 7: I kick a seventy three yarder the other day and
• 46:38
  Speaker 7: no one says a word. But Brandon Jones is an
• 46:40
  Speaker 7: extra point and my timeline's going off.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: But we will live through the battle ahead because we
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: fight to control our own destiny.