Latest / Chuck Douglas / ISSUE 1 AND STUFF - GUEST OH State Treasurer Robert Sprague
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- 0:08Speaker 1: We are at six minutes past six o'clock. Greeting salutations.
- 0:11Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Power Hour. I'm Chut Douglas.
- 0:13Speaker 1: You allegedly know who you are. We take it from there.
- 0:16Speaker 1: You're going to get one hour together, which means I
- 0:18Speaker 1: talk really fast. You must listen even faster, especially now
- 0:21Speaker 1: with the election coming up. As as I've been saying,
- 0:24Speaker 1: if you can early vote, if you can get to
- 0:26Speaker 1: the early voting center, do so. The hours for early
- 0:29Speaker 1: voting extended today, They're open more hours. You also have
- 0:33Speaker 1: weekend hours Saturdays and Sundays. I believe you can vote now,
- 0:38Speaker 1: do it. Do it just in case, somehow, some way
- 0:44Speaker 1: a hurricane manages to hit Franklin County, Ohio. I'm counting
- 0:47Speaker 1: on nothing this year. COVID twenty seven. Who knows if
- 0:55Speaker 1: you can early vote, early vote Conservatives, the right, the
- 1:00Speaker 1: Republican that you've been beaten over the head with the
- 1:02Speaker 1: early voting stick for years, start swinging it back. Or
- 1:06Speaker 1: maybe that's just me. One of the things you will
- 1:08Speaker 1: be voting on this year. By the way, I put
- 1:11Speaker 1: the campaign signs in the yard this past week on
- 1:15Speaker 1: I think it was Thursday night, and because nobody in
- 1:18Speaker 1: my neighborhood had them except the lefties. There's the hair
- 1:23Speaker 1: signs are out, the vote yes on one signs are out,
- 1:27Speaker 1: the whoever is running for offices stuff is out. All
- 1:31Speaker 1: the Conservatives just they wanted to get along with their neighbors.
- 1:33Speaker 1: So of course I have to be the first, right,
- 1:36Speaker 1: So I put my signs out this weekend. The guy
- 1:40Speaker 1: down the street goes by, he's got the Trump twenty
- 1:42Speaker 1: twenty four all over his windows on his car. Had
- 1:46Speaker 1: a guy stop this morning andaid, hey, where'd you get
- 1:48Speaker 1: the signs? I need to get my signs. They're coming
- 1:51Speaker 1: out of the woodwork. We got what seventeen days left?
- 1:54Speaker 1: Is that what it is? Act seventeen or eighteen days
- 1:56Speaker 1: till election day?
- 1:57Speaker 2: Over two weeks seventeen days.
- 1:59Speaker 1: You're going to start seeing more people, I think, being
- 2:02Speaker 1: more prominent with their positions, but they, unfortunately will be
- 2:08Speaker 1: overcome with confusion about some things too, including State Issue one,
- 2:15Speaker 1: which is to allegedly make more fair the boundary process
- 2:24Speaker 1: that decides our congressional districts. I have two problems with this.
- 2:29Speaker 1: First of all, a zero accountability, which is never a
- 2:35Speaker 1: good thing, And secondly, I don't like anything that alters
- 2:37Speaker 1: our state constitution. I just that's forever, man, that's forever.
- 2:44Speaker 1: This isn't a matter of passing legislation. This is a
- 2:46Speaker 1: matter of altering the constitution. And quite frankly, I don't
- 2:52Speaker 1: think there's been nearly enough discussion, and people aren't nearly
- 2:55Speaker 1: as educated as they need to be to do something
- 2:57Speaker 1: like that. You see how you boxed yourself in when
- 3:02Speaker 1: it came to where gambling was going to happen. Right now,
- 3:06Speaker 1: it's all over the place, but it's limited by the
- 3:08Speaker 1: state constitution. Who can do it and where they can
- 3:11Speaker 1: do it. Issue one same thing, and it will affect
- 3:16Speaker 1: you in a much larger way, including the amount of
- 3:20Speaker 1: representation you have in Washington, DC locally from our state house.
- 3:26Speaker 1: State Senator Andrew Brinner on standby right now to hopefully,
- 3:30Speaker 1: you know, clarify and and talk baby talk to me
- 3:33Speaker 1: maybe to kind of get this put it out there
- 3:38Speaker 1: in the plainest, simplest possible terms. Andrew, thanks for the
- 3:42Speaker 1: time man tonight. I appreciate you well.
- 3:44Speaker 2: Nice Chuck. I'm glad I could be on. Hopefully you
- 3:46Speaker 2: can hear me. I'm at a Republican event this evening
- 3:49Speaker 2: up here in the Mount Vernon for Mark Heiner for
- 3:52Speaker 2: state Reps.
- 3:53Speaker 1: So good turnout. You got a good turnout of people
- 3:56Speaker 1: up there.
- 3:57Speaker 2: They got a good turnout. I have a bunch of
- 4:00Speaker 2: good people up here. Lieutenant Governor's up here. Even the
- 4:03Speaker 2: Senate President, the future Speaker of the Ohio House, Matt Huffman, is.
- 4:07Speaker 1: Up here excellently. If anybody from the audience, if anybody
- 4:10Speaker 1: in the audience yells Jesus is Lord, the appropriate response
- 4:13Speaker 1: is not, You're in the wrong.
- 4:15Speaker 2: Rally, and s amen is what it is. Oh yeah,
- 4:18Speaker 2: that was the dumbest comment I've heard her say. But
- 4:21Speaker 2: no State Issue one. To simplify it. If you want
- 4:25Speaker 2: a California Ohio pass and vote for State Issue one,
- 4:31Speaker 2: if you want to protect the Second Amendment, if you
- 4:33Speaker 2: want to protect school choice, if you want lower taxes
- 4:37Speaker 2: and fewer government regulations, then your only option is to
- 4:40Speaker 2: vote no on State Issue one. And it's not a
- 4:45Speaker 2: question of if this entire and I've got the twenty
- 4:48Speaker 2: six pages of constitutional amendment. Our Bill of rights is
- 4:52Speaker 2: only a couple pages this one constitutional amendment, not the summary.
- 4:56Speaker 2: The full amendment is twenty six pages actually, and about
- 5:01Speaker 2: an eighth of a page So for those that are
- 5:04Speaker 2: out there on the left, they're saying I'm lying about
- 5:05Speaker 2: the number of pages or something.
- 5:07Speaker 1: Misleads audience on number of pages.
- 5:10Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, but I mean it's very simple. This
- 5:16Speaker 2: amendment is bad. It will eliminate what we just did
- 5:19Speaker 2: six years ago that the left wanted. They wanted us
- 5:22Speaker 2: to hold intact cities, municipalities, they wanted us to hold
- 5:27Speaker 2: intact counties, try to do as few of cuts as
- 5:30Speaker 2: possible to townships. This amendment throws all that out because
- 5:35Speaker 2: guess what we did exactly what they said they wanted
- 5:39Speaker 2: that It was overwhelmingly passed six years ago by bipartisan support.
- 5:43Speaker 2: I supported it. This version is going to require jerrymandering.
- 5:48Speaker 2: It is going to override the district boundaries specifically so
- 5:52Speaker 2: that they can make them proportional to the number of
- 5:56Speaker 2: people and the way they vote in the state of Ohio,
- 5:58Speaker 2: whether they're Republican or Democrat. And so what you'll see
- 6:02Speaker 2: is you'll see a hub and spoke system. You will
- 6:04Speaker 2: see districts coming out of Franklin County, Cuyahoga County. They'll
- 6:08Speaker 2: sprawl into suburban areas, rural areas in order to hit
- 6:13Speaker 2: the proportionality number, which is what the Constitutional Amendment proposal says.
- 6:19Speaker 2: So if you want to make sure that the Ohio
- 6:22Speaker 2: House of Representatives in the Ohio Senate becomes Democrat, then okay,
- 6:26Speaker 2: go ahead and vote for State Issue one. If you
- 6:30Speaker 2: want to continue to reduce taxes, if you want to
- 6:33Speaker 2: continue to reform Ohio and bring businesses like Intel in,
- 6:37Speaker 2: then you have to vote no. It's just that simple,
- 6:41Speaker 2: you know, And I would encourage everybody. I mean, this
- 6:43Speaker 2: is just twenty six pages of I mean, this is
- 6:48Speaker 2: legislation being put into the constitution because the far left,
- 6:54Speaker 2: the people like George Soros and company, and all this
- 6:57Speaker 2: out of state money. I mean, you have less than
- 7:00Speaker 2: one percent of the donations that were most recently reported
- 7:04Speaker 2: I think that was to the end of July, came
- 7:07Speaker 2: from individuals. The rest of it came from big leftist
- 7:10Speaker 2: organizations who are specifically doing this to take over our
- 7:15Speaker 2: state government because they know that they've not been they
- 7:18Speaker 2: have not wanted the ballot box. They put their progressive
- 7:21Speaker 2: candidates up and they lose to our candidates. They lose
- 7:24Speaker 2: to our modern candidates. We've got great candidates like Stephanie Coinsey.
- 7:27Speaker 2: She's a moderate Republican, but she's reasonable and does a
- 7:31Speaker 2: really good job representing her constituents. They want to throw
- 7:34Speaker 2: her out and put in a far leftist so that
- 7:36Speaker 2: they can push their basically socialist agenda. They want to
- 7:41Speaker 2: aoc Ohio about night what they're.
- 7:44Speaker 1: Doing about ninety eight percent of the or ninety eight
- 7:47Speaker 1: point four percent or something like that, of the funding
- 7:51Speaker 1: behind the effort is from outside of the state of Ohio.
- 7:54Speaker 1: And I don't think that is being pushed to the
- 7:56Speaker 1: people who are proud buck eyes, proud citizens of the
- 7:59Speaker 1: great state of Ohio. I don't think that's being pushed.
- 8:01Speaker 1: Tarted up. Man, When ninety eight point four percent of
- 8:04Speaker 1: the money to change your mind is coming from someplace
- 8:07Speaker 1: other than within your state, that should be a giant
- 8:10Speaker 1: red flag.
- 8:12Speaker 2: And that's exactly what happened to Michigan, and the Michigan
- 8:15Speaker 2: General Assembly has flipped from Republican to Democrat. And the
- 8:19Speaker 2: only reason that happened is because they passed essentially the
- 8:23Speaker 2: same thing up there, you know, the Citizens Committee. These
- 8:29Speaker 2: people are not going to even be qualified. In fact,
- 8:32Speaker 2: what this does is it says if you've run for
- 8:35Speaker 2: office at the state, federal, or local level, so if
- 8:37Speaker 2: you've run for a local school board and lost anytime
- 8:40Speaker 2: in the last six years, you cannot serve on their
- 8:43Speaker 2: commission because you're apparently overqualified or you would be too biased.
- 8:49Speaker 2: So what they want to do is they want to
- 8:50Speaker 2: put in essentially initially fifteen people, five Republicans, five Independents,
- 8:55Speaker 2: and five Democrats to create this one hundred and forty
- 8:59Speaker 2: percent and commission, who will then turn around and draw maps.
- 9:03Speaker 2: We're going to get a bunch of people who aren't
- 9:05Speaker 2: experts in anything, are then going to have to rely
- 9:08Speaker 2: on what they think are experts. And they'll have an
- 9:11Speaker 2: unlimited budget because the constitutional amendment says, guess what they
- 9:15Speaker 2: get whatever they want to spend, So they will go
- 9:19Speaker 2: They will hire probably college professors because those are the
- 9:23Speaker 2: ones who usually go to the reapportionment board meetings, and
- 9:28Speaker 2: those people will be the ones drawing the maps. And
- 9:31Speaker 2: you know, darn well, and if you saw the posts
- 9:33Speaker 2: that just went out the other day, almost all the
- 9:35Speaker 2: college professors vote to the far left on almost every
- 9:39Speaker 2: major thing, including political science. And those will be the
- 9:41Speaker 2: people drawing the maps. You know darn well. They will
- 9:44Speaker 2: not be fair. They will be designed specifically to put
- 9:47Speaker 2: more Democrats into the State House. And that's what this
- 9:49Speaker 2: is about.
- 9:50Speaker 1: I don't know that there is a way, by the
- 9:51Speaker 1: way the state Senator Andrew Brinner joining me right now,
- 9:54Speaker 1: I don't know that there is a way to do
- 9:56Speaker 1: this in a way that everyone of all political ILKs
- 10:01Speaker 1: feels is fair. You just can't unless you get all
- 10:05Speaker 1: Democrats to live in one section of the state and
- 10:08Speaker 1: all Republicans to live in another section of the state.
- 10:11Speaker 1: It's very difficult to try to draw lines that don't
- 10:15Speaker 1: look like a messed up Jakesaw puzzle and make everybody happy.
- 10:21Speaker 1: And it's you know, typically the party in power at
- 10:25Speaker 1: the time draws lines that benefit them. The Republicans do it,
- 10:28Speaker 1: the Democrats have done it. That's kind of part of
- 10:31Speaker 1: the machinery that we call politics.
- 10:33Speaker 2: Yep. And here's the other thing. If you think people
- 10:38Speaker 2: asking you for money for your campaign and the one
- 10:40Speaker 2: hundred and fifty text messages you're getting a day right
- 10:43Speaker 2: now asking you for money, I'll give a dollar to
- 10:46Speaker 2: this or that is going to be reduced, it's not.
- 10:50Speaker 2: Because what will happen is these seats will be so
- 10:53Speaker 2: much closer that we're going to have to spend boatloads
- 10:56Speaker 2: more money than we're spending right now to win any
- 10:58Speaker 2: of these seats, and that is going to drive up
- 11:01Speaker 2: the cost of running for office, and it's going to
- 11:04Speaker 2: cause more special interests to get involved because they'll be
- 11:08Speaker 2: the only ones that will be able to fund it.
- 11:10Speaker 2: And so you're going to see more you know, third
- 11:13Speaker 2: party packs and organizations like you know back by George
- 11:16Speaker 2: Soros at all get involved. They'll be coming from out
- 11:19Speaker 2: of state in order to try to control our General Assembly.
- 11:22Speaker 2: And that's exactly what's going to happen. So I'm going
- 11:24Speaker 2: to tell you if your listeners aren't scared now, they
- 11:27Speaker 2: should be because if they think that their taxes and
- 11:30Speaker 2: their property taxes are too high now, and I believe
- 11:32Speaker 2: they are, they're not going to go down under a
- 11:36Speaker 2: change in this because all this can do is move
- 11:38Speaker 2: us to the far left. And I just I will
- 11:42Speaker 2: tell you this does not have any bipartisan support. This
- 11:46Speaker 2: is totally a partisan effort. I mean, when you've got
- 11:48Speaker 2: the League of Women Voters and every progressive organization out
- 11:51Speaker 2: there backing it and no conservative organizations are backing it,
- 11:56Speaker 2: that should tell you something. And I think that you know,
- 12:00Speaker 2: six years ago we had why bipartisan support. I even
- 12:03Speaker 2: supported it because I felt that the district that I
- 12:06Speaker 2: represented and I currently represent the nineteenth Senate was gerrymandered
- 12:11Speaker 2: in a way that was I mean, it didn't hold
- 12:14Speaker 2: communities intact. I mean I was representing it at the
- 12:16Speaker 2: time in Franklin County all over the place, and it
- 12:20Speaker 2: wasn't fair to the constituents because they didn't get somebody
- 12:23Speaker 2: that would represent their values. And that's the other thing.
- 12:27Speaker 2: The way this is designed, everybody will be upset at
- 12:30Speaker 2: their state representative. You won't get a state representative that
- 12:34Speaker 2: will be supporting your position. So I'm up here in
- 12:36Speaker 2: Mount Vernon. The city of Mount Vernon is a little
- 12:39Speaker 2: more liberal than the rest of the county, but this
- 12:41Speaker 2: is a red county. Imagine that this county potentially is
- 12:46Speaker 2: then represented by a Democrat. None of the constituents are
- 12:48Speaker 2: going to like it. But even worse, the people in
- 12:51Speaker 2: Clintonville are going to get potentially somebody that's more watered
- 12:54Speaker 2: down too and will be less inclined to support their issues.
- 12:59Speaker 2: So you know, the voter is better be careful for
- 13:02Speaker 2: what they wish for because they might get it. But
- 13:04Speaker 2: in this case, if you're a Republican. I would definitely
- 13:08Speaker 2: strongly encourage you to vote now. If you're an independent
- 13:12Speaker 2: and you think you want to see Ohio succeed, continue
- 13:15Speaker 2: to grow, bring in businesses and jobs, then you should
- 13:18Speaker 2: also be voting now.
- 13:20Speaker 1: That shouldn't shouldn't take a whole lot for people to
- 13:23Speaker 1: figure this out. But I appreciate you giving me some
- 13:25Speaker 1: time to, I guess just kind of reiterate what I
- 13:27Speaker 1: consider to be the obvious. It's a bad idea, The
- 13:30Speaker 1: concept is bad. The way that it's set up is bad,
- 13:34Speaker 1: and once it becomes part of our constitution, it is
- 13:36Speaker 1: what it is. Sit down and shut up. Vote No.
- 13:40Speaker 1: You want to talk about legislation down the line, fine,
- 13:42Speaker 1: but this is not the way to do it. And
- 13:45Speaker 1: I'm glad to know I'm not alone. Andrew BRINNERD, thank
- 13:47Speaker 1: you very much.
- 13:47Speaker 2: Go back.
- 13:47Speaker 1: Are you having the rubber chicken? Are you going with
- 13:49Speaker 1: the fish tonight?
- 13:50Speaker 2: By the way, I don't know. I think they've got
- 13:52Speaker 2: probably just our DRBs. Oh man, if we're getting close,
- 13:57Speaker 2: we're getting close to we're getting close to Halloween, so
- 13:59Speaker 2: they've got some Halloween candy out here, so I'll have
- 14:01Speaker 2: some of that.
- 14:02Speaker 1: We'll have the Halloween. Case'll let me energize everybody I said, hey,
- 14:05Speaker 1: and we'll talk again. I'm sure here real soon as
- 14:07Speaker 1: election time approaches.
- 14:09Speaker 2: Oh, I appreciate it. Thank you very much for having
- 14:11Speaker 2: me on check.
- 14:12Speaker 1: Thank you for being there. I appreciate you at six
- 14:14Speaker 1: twenty now, which means traffic and weather together