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WELCOME BACK TO BASIC BLAQUE AFTER DARK - EVERY 1ST & 3RD FRIDAY| HOST BLAQUE DIAMOND · DA CREW Podcast

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  Speaker 1: When the lights go down, the real conversations begin. Welcome
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  Speaker 1: to Basic Black after Dark, hosted by Black Diamond, where truth,
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  Speaker 1: healing and growth takes centers age. This is the space
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  Speaker 1: where mental health, family healing, and personal growth are talked
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  Speaker 1: about honestly and without filters, featuring intimate interviews with authors
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  Speaker 1: and thought leaders who aren't afraid to share their journey
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  Speaker 1: because every story told reminds someone watching you are not alone.
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  Speaker 1: Basic Black after Dark now streaming on the Crew Platform.
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  Speaker 2: Tap in, leagues and gentlemen, I have your attention, please
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  Speaker 2: the show stops in heard mine eight seven, six, five,
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  Speaker 2: four three two one cool.
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  Speaker 3: Hey everybody, this is Black Diamond from the Crew Network
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  Speaker 3: and you're listening to Basic Black after Dark, the show
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  Speaker 3: that meets you where you are and gives you what
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  Speaker 3: you ask for. Did you miss me because I missed you.
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  Speaker 3: We're back and we're back for another great season. So
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  Speaker 3: welcome to season four of the Crew Network and Basic
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  Speaker 3: Black after Dark. Tonight, We're kicking off the very first
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  Speaker 3: show of this season with a powerful conversation about purpose, visibility,
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  Speaker 3: and influence. I'm joined by Deborah Franklin, author, international speaker,
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  Speaker 3: and AI strategists who believes your story, when paired with
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  Speaker 3: the right strategy, can truly change lives. Deborah is the
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  Speaker 3: founder of DFP Group, where she helps authors, speakers, and
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  Speaker 3: entrepreneurs expand their influence while staying authentic and purpose driven.
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  Speaker 3: She's also the author of twenty one minutes or Pray
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  Speaker 3: for Authors Trusting the Process with DFP. That's a powerful
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  Speaker 3: reminded that your words your process, and you're calling all
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  Speaker 3: matt from storytelling and ethical AI to global impact, including
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  Speaker 3: her work supporting communities in Kenya. I can't wait to
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  Speaker 3: talk to you about that. So this conversation is going
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  Speaker 3: to be rich, real and right on time. So get comfortable.
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  Speaker 3: This is Basic Black after Dark and season four starts now.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome Deborah Freglant to Basic Back after Dark.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, Hello, how are you okay?
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  Speaker 3: How are you doing?
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  Speaker 5: I'm fine, and thank you so much for having me.
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  Speaker 5: I'm so excited, uh to be here tonight. It's been
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  Speaker 5: it's been a lot of time since we see each other.
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  Speaker 3: It really has been. I was just telling somebody that said,
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  Speaker 3: I don't even remember when I first met I know,
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  Speaker 3: we years ago. Yeah, and we worked on a project
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  Speaker 3: together along with some other authors. So it's been. It's
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  Speaker 3: been some ride, it really has, and I can't even
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  Speaker 3: begin to tell you what it was like. Butte stories
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  Speaker 3: and purpose. Do you believe that stories and strategy can
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  Speaker 3: change lives?
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  Speaker 4: Oh? Absolutely, Because a lot of times.
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  Speaker 5: We live our lives and we live we feel like
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  Speaker 5: we're living in a bubble. And so when we feel
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  Speaker 5: that way, we don't tend to go out and seek
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  Speaker 5: other help.
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  Speaker 4: We feel like we're doing it all alone.
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  Speaker 5: But when we hear these stories, when you tell your stories,
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  Speaker 5: you're able to help somebody else realize that they are
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  Speaker 5: not doing this by themselves, that that if you conquered it,
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  Speaker 5: they can conquer that. Because I know I feel like
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  Speaker 5: sometimes if I had gotten some of the stories from
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  Speaker 5: some of the people that I was around, maybe I
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  Speaker 5: would not have made some of the mistakes I made,
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  Speaker 5: or at least had that that gauge to know how
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  Speaker 5: to go back to them and and be able to
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  Speaker 5: know that I had somebody to ask those questions to.
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  Speaker 3: So when did you first realize that the power? When
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  Speaker 3: did you first realize the power of your own story?
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  Speaker 3: Because I know you've helped people with others, and you
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  Speaker 3: speak so eloquently about it, so when did you first
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  Speaker 3: realize the power of your own story?
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  Speaker 4: You know what, it's really crazy about that because I
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  Speaker 4: remember it was my first book book that I ever wrote.
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  Speaker 4: It was called Adjectives.
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  Speaker 5: Adjectives dealt with healing yourself from the inside out. Basically, Uh,
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  Speaker 5: you know that you that that an adjective is a
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  Speaker 5: word that describes a noun, and that you are that now.
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  Speaker 5: And so I was writing it for healing for myself.
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  Speaker 5: I never planned to sell the book. I never planned
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  Speaker 5: to do anything. I ain't even have a market. I'm
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  Speaker 5: laughing this book. So and then somebody got the book
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  Speaker 5: and they came back and said, you know what, I
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  Speaker 5: am so glad that you wrote that book because it
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  Speaker 5: helped me. And I was like, that was the very
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  Speaker 5: first time that I knew that my words had power,
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  Speaker 5: that my words did have some type of healing to them,
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  Speaker 5: because I didn't know that my story was like somebody
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  Speaker 5: else's because I was a victim of a bubble. And
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  Speaker 5: so it was really cool to actually see that. So
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  Speaker 5: that's been oooh, I want that's been a while since
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  Speaker 5: I wrote that. So about what fifteen almost Yeah, this
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  Speaker 5: is about fifteen twenty years old, which is surprising because
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  Speaker 5: I would have never hunting.
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  Speaker 4: That would have never thought about that.
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  Speaker 5: But I would have to say, was like that major
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  Speaker 5: aha moment with words having power and telling story.
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  Speaker 3: It's funny that many authors have that aham on it
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  Speaker 3: and they don't realize it until years later that they
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  Speaker 3: had that. Do you think that your journey through education, publishing,
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  Speaker 3: and media shape the work that you do today?
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  Speaker 5: Definitely education, because I fell into it. I never I
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  Speaker 5: tell this story all the time. I never plan. It
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  Speaker 5: was never on my bucket list to even be in education,
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  Speaker 5: even to touch education. It was never my thing. And
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  Speaker 5: so I know that God is definitely a comedian because
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  Speaker 5: being an education helped me to see and how to
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  Speaker 5: deal with different types of people, because when you go
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  Speaker 5: into that classroom, you got thirty different personalities in one
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  Speaker 5: room that you got to try to reach during that time.
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  Speaker 5: And so it also helped me to come out of
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  Speaker 5: my Once you do me wrong.
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  Speaker 4: I ain't got nothing to do with you either.
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  Speaker 5: Situations when you children, you have to have that first
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  Speaker 5: third and twelfth try on teeth try, and it helped
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  Speaker 5: me to solve who I am. And so I was like, Okay, God,
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  Speaker 5: I've learned the lesson can I move on? And then
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  Speaker 5: I realized that on different levels is that I might
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  Speaker 5: have been there to get my heels, but I was
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  Speaker 5: also there to help other children and other people to
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  Speaker 5: get their healing as well.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think speaking to God made you move a
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  Speaker 3: little further of where you are now had you not
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  Speaker 3: spoken to him?
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  Speaker 4: Oh?
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  Speaker 5: Absolutely absolutely, because I grew up in the church. I
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  Speaker 5: grew up and I always took my I always took
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  Speaker 5: my salvation.
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  Speaker 4: I've always taken my.
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  Speaker 5: Belief serious and I knew and I can say I've
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  Speaker 5: seen my business and what I do grow even more,
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  Speaker 5: especially once I started to seek God for everything that
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  Speaker 5: I did, whenever I started to show up, and it
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  Speaker 5: was like I knew that God was the center of
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  Speaker 5: everything that I did. So I know that He's definitely
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  Speaker 5: a part of a major part of who.
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  Speaker 4: I am and what I've done.
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  Speaker 5: So yes, I totally believe that God being in the
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  Speaker 5: midst of everything I do is where I need to be.
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  Speaker 3: So would you say that that was the moment when
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  Speaker 3: you knew you were called to help others turn their
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  Speaker 3: lives or then live experience into platforms.
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  Speaker 5: I think when I know I had to be in
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  Speaker 5: church and I had started listening to other people and
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  Speaker 5: coming from the type of family that I had, you know,
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  Speaker 5: I started to realize I started hearing, you know, if
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  Speaker 5: they won't put you on your on their platform, create
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  Speaker 5: your own. And that's really what I started to do.
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  Speaker 5: And I said, Okay, God, I know this is what I.
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  Speaker 4: Want to do.
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  Speaker 5: So I need you to help me create my platform,
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  Speaker 5: help me to be able to get out there and
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  Speaker 5: do what you have called me to do. And then
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  Speaker 5: once I started get into the let's say, get into
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  Speaker 5: the groove of things and started to show up in
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  Speaker 5: different places and spaces, I made up my mind that
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  Speaker 5: I always wanted to help other women in the same
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  Speaker 5: situation that I was in that give them an opportunity
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  Speaker 5: to be able to do what they are called to do,
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  Speaker 5: and give them a platform, because sometimes all you need
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  Speaker 5: is one platform, and it's like, you know, to be
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  Speaker 5: able to give you that launching pad to go where
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  Speaker 5: you want to go. So that that stem from I
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  Speaker 5: always wanted to be to somebody what nobody was to me.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: So what I can honestly say about it is from
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  Speaker 3: what I know about you, you're authentic and you're visibly
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  Speaker 3: everywhere every time I turn on some kind of social media,
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  Speaker 3: I see you just about here, every and everywhere, even
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  Speaker 3: up in Times Square, I seen you up in there.
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  Speaker 3: Till many people want visibility, but fear of being seen.
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  Speaker 3: What do you say to the leaders who are hesitant
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  Speaker 3: to share this story?
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  Speaker 4: I'm sorry to repeat that last part. What about the leaders.
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  Speaker 3: I'm saying, what do you say the leaders who are
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  Speaker 3: hesitant to share their story? You know, they say that
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  Speaker 3: they got a story, but they either tuck it in
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  Speaker 3: the drawer or the papers of it all over the house,
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  Speaker 3: and they just it's just everywhere those people.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I say to them, your story matters.
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  Speaker 5: And so many times, a lot of times people are
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  Speaker 5: scared to tell their stories because they are scared of
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  Speaker 5: they have that shame of where they came from. They
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  Speaker 5: are ashamed of who they are. And in all actuality,
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  Speaker 5: if you if they would tell their story, they don't.
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  Speaker 5: They probably don't even realize how many doors that it
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  Speaker 5: would open, how many how how much more serious they
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  Speaker 5: would be taken, and then they will probably see what
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  Speaker 5: they're doing expand any even more. Because everybody needs to
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  Speaker 5: share their story because they there are people out here hurting,
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  Speaker 5: There are people out here not surviving. There are people
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  Speaker 5: out here not doing because you.
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  Speaker 4: Haven't told your story.
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  Speaker 5: Your story matters, and your story is what somebody is
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  Speaker 5: waiting to hear in order for them to make it
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  Speaker 5: to that next level. It's because so often people feel
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  Speaker 5: like their story is is not important, and that's not true.
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  Speaker 3: And this is the reason why I say authentic. How
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  Speaker 3: do you help clients stay authentic while still growing their influence?
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes they drift off and they feel as though I
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  Speaker 3: have to say this or have to say that in
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  Speaker 3: the book, and it really isn't them. How do you
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  Speaker 3: help them stay authentic while they're still growing their own influence.
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  Speaker 3: Depers helped me a great deal when I first started.
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  Speaker 3: I believe that's when I met her. We were discussing
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  Speaker 3: something that I was on somebody else's panel, and she
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  Speaker 3: happened to be watching, and she invited me on her show.
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  Speaker 3: And this was many years ago that we started connecting,
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  Speaker 3: and it blossomed into a friendship, and it also blossomed
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  Speaker 3: into me being the co author on one of her books.
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  Speaker 3: And I still get the kick out of the title.
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  Speaker 3: I think they remember the title being called something like
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  Speaker 3: get off your hind Pots or something I can't. I
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  Speaker 3: can't even remember it because it's just so many books
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  Speaker 3: that she has done and so many authors that she
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  Speaker 3: has helped. But she has a wonderful story. Right now,
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  Speaker 3: she's just a little frozen. We're still dealing with a
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  Speaker 3: lot of this craziness with the weather everywhere. Some people's
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  Speaker 3: pipes are frozen, the lines are frozen, and I'm not
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  Speaker 3: gonna say blame it on God, but he has his
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  Speaker 3: way of moving things and moving people around, so hopefully
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  Speaker 3: he get to moving some of I guess the sanitation
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  Speaker 3: and whoever else is working out there to be able
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  Speaker 3: to dig everything up so we could get the stories
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  Speaker 3: back online and continue to help everything grow. Now I
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  Speaker 3: see him coming, trying to come back in, but I'm
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  Speaker 3: not sure she's all the way in because some part
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  Speaker 3: of her is still frozen. But like I said, she's
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  Speaker 3: one of those people that you really need to know,
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  Speaker 3: You really need to get to know her. So my
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  Speaker 3: question's back, and thank you so much for being able
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  Speaker 3: to come back. What's the biggest mistake people make when
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  Speaker 3: trying to build a platform?
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  Speaker 5: One thing, I'm not sure if you can see and
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  Speaker 5: hear me, now, can you see and hear me?
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  Speaker 3: I can Okay, awesome.
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  Speaker 4: I'm so sorry, y'all.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know what's going on because the double is
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  Speaker 5: a lot and we don't get this done. Technology is
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  Speaker 5: doing tech me and I do apologize. So one thing
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  Speaker 5: that I do see where a lot of times people
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  Speaker 5: make mistakes is that they have to.
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  Speaker 4: Do the research. A lot of.
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  Speaker 5: Times people don't do because they haven't done the research,
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  Speaker 5: they haven't gotten out there to see what's going on.
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  Speaker 4: And then and then on the on a.
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  Speaker 5: Larger state, on a larger note, they're afraid. They're afraid
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  Speaker 5: of fear. They they fear not being able to be
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  Speaker 5: to have success, and so that's why they have to
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  Speaker 5: they have to be able to just jump out there
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  Speaker 5: and do it.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you you have never lied because when before
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  Speaker 3: I even came on this platform, my producer asked me
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  Speaker 3: over and over again, and I just kept saying, no,
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  Speaker 3: people don't want to hear from me. I don't have
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  Speaker 3: anything to say. And she just kept convincing me and
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  Speaker 3: encouraging me to tell me you can do this. Let's
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  Speaker 3: just go over some things and rehearse it. And we're
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  Speaker 3: into the fourth season ready, myself along with some other
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  Speaker 3: great women who have their platforms thanks to her as well.
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  Speaker 3: So what devastating is true. You do have to exercise
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  Speaker 3: and get out there, but you have to take baby
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  Speaker 3: steps when you go about it and know you need
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  Speaker 3: to know yourself. You can't just get out there and
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  Speaker 3: just say any old thing because people are not just
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  Speaker 3: any old people. They're listening and watching you because they
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  Speaker 3: want to hear from you, and they want to hear
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  Speaker 3: what you have to say. And that brings me right
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  Speaker 3: back to being authentic. You have to be authentic with
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  Speaker 3: what you're saying. Debra is also into AI storytelling and strategy.
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  Speaker 3: So what's the difference As an AI strategist. How do
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  Speaker 3: you see artificial intelligence changing storytelling and publishing.
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  Speaker 5: One thing that I see with storytelling and publishing is
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  Speaker 5: that we are opating in a different level now and
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  Speaker 5: it's like now you can it's not replace Okay, So
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  Speaker 5: let me just start here. For authors that think that, oh,
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  Speaker 5: that are seeing all these things, trut oh, write your
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  Speaker 5: book in thirty in three hours using AI. Y'all don't
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  Speaker 5: do that because a lot of times, what you don't
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  Speaker 5: realize that there are laws out here now that if
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  Speaker 5: you let AI write your story, you're not. You're not
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  Speaker 5: getting credit for your story. You're not getting you you
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  Speaker 5: won't get the residual income that you're looking at by
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  Speaker 5: letting AI do all of it.
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  Speaker 4: Now can't.
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  Speaker 5: Where I'm using AI for my authors is that I'm
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  Speaker 5: using it for their marketing platforms.
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  Speaker 4: I'm helping.
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  Speaker 5: This is helping them develop a lot of them want
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  Speaker 5: book trailers, but they can't afford to get to pay,
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  Speaker 5: you know, thousands of dollars.
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  Speaker 4: But with AI, I can create.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. AI is the way of the future.
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  Speaker 3: And for some it's kind of hard to use, like myself.
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  Speaker 3: But when you have somebody that's like Debrah, that knows
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  Speaker 3: their way around it, that can maneuver around AI, then
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  Speaker 3: I would suggest you continue to go with her. Can
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  Speaker 3: you hear me? Now? She went back out and again
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  Speaker 3: I deeply apologize. It's got to be this, this nasty
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  Speaker 3: little weather that would have it. But hopefully the weather change,
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  Speaker 3: I understand. On February two, Punk sing Tony whatever his
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  Speaker 3: little name is, he says six more weeks of bad weather.
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  Speaker 3: So just gonna say, maybe he was a fake and
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  Speaker 3: that was his brother or something. Maybe won't have six
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  Speaker 3: more week to bad weather, So let's just pray it
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  Speaker 3: on end that we won't have the six weeks. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I'm having just she can't hear me, but she just
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  Speaker 3: went offline. So we're going to try to do our
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  Speaker 3: best as we always do with continuing with the show.
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  Speaker 3: You know, because there's a lot of things that I
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  Speaker 3: want to ask, are like some creatives their fear a
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  Speaker 3: I will replace originality, And I would really like to
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  Speaker 3: know what her response is because.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, I I don't know what I'm just saying, I
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  Speaker 4: have the baby.
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  Speaker 3: It's AI telling us that they don't want us to
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  Speaker 3: be talking.
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  Speaker 5: About them creative, and I'm like, I should be hearing music.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not playing any music. I'm I'm telling me A
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  Speaker 3: I gotta be. You gotta be because everybody's talking about
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  Speaker 3: a I. You know, some creatives fear a I will
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  Speaker 3: replace originality, and I'm one of the people that do.
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  Speaker 3: What's your response to that, I.
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  Speaker 5: It can it can't replace originality if you allow it.
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  Speaker 5: And that's the whole thing you have got. You are
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  Speaker 5: in control of what you do in AI. Just like
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  Speaker 5: when people were like when TV first came with that
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  Speaker 5: first came, everybody was so scared of it. But it
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  Speaker 5: has its place. You have to learn how to use
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  Speaker 5: it affected. You have to learn how to use it
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  Speaker 5: to where it makes sense. You cannot allow those platforms
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  Speaker 5: to take over your creativity. Now, can it assist you?
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  Speaker 5: If it's if you're using AI plus human, then you're
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  Speaker 5: gonna see different results.
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  Speaker 4: But a lot of times people are just plugging.
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  Speaker 5: It in and letting it do it all and I
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  Speaker 5: and that's where you're gonna run into the problems.
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  Speaker 3: So how can authors speakers use AI ethically without losing
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  Speaker 3: their voice?
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  Speaker 5: One thing using it ethically a promho. We just had
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  Speaker 5: this conversation with my with my my editor, and one
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  Speaker 5: way that we were talking about it is that you
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  Speaker 5: use you use it to get maybe to get ideas.
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: You're using it to get ideas for what you're doing.
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: You're using it to get ideas and help you maybe
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: organize your thoughts. But to write all your words, that's
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: not cool. You want your you want your words to
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: be authentic, You want your your you know, you want
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: to put put forth your best foot forward, as they say,
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: in order for your success to be your success.
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: And so we.
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: Can't let AI because if we let AI take over
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: our world, what's the purpose of having us as people.
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: We're taking the human factor out of it. Like when
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: you go to the grocery store US.
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: It's just like when you go to the.
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: Grocery store and you're doing self checkout, Think about how
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: how it used to be you go through the line,
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: you can talk to the cashier. Have you know, just
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: as we used to say, cut up with the cashier.
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: Now what are you doing? You bagging your own groceries?
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: You used to be able to tip. I remember when
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: you can tip.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: The bag boy. You don't even have a bag boy anymore.
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: So we have to be careful not to let AI
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: say go.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: That's true. So what's one AI tool or strategy you
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: think every entrepreneurs should at least understand right now?
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: Uh? Honestly, Chat GPT, Chat GPT, use it properly especially Okay.
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: So now this is where authors to really have a
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: great time using chat GPT is with when you're doing
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: your research, because a lot of times a lot of
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: us can't afford to just get in the car drive somewhere.
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: But you could ask chat GPT map out, map out
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: my trip between Atlanta and Chicago. It could tell you
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: and tell and tell it to tell you like all
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: the stops that you're gonna make, all the gas stations.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: You know, relevant things that you would need on. So
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: that's what.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: One of the things. One of the things I wanted
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: to tell our viewers about chat GBT tho those there
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: in school, do not rely on chat GPT to do
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: your work, because that is plagiarism. So I definitely wanted
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: to put that out there because some people are thinking
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: that it's okay to use it, and it is plagiarism
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: if you're an author as well. It is plagiarism if
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: you're an author as well, if you're using these things
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: and like she said, to be using them for or
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: maybe some ideas and for them to give you a
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: little you know, that little backup talk for you that
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: you know, like your friend would do or something another
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: author would do. But sometimes it seems a little bit
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: more convenient because chat is right there and you can
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: just chat it up. That's why it's called chat. But
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: it's not called do it for me, Otherwise it would
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: be called do it for me, So you know that.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: That's why I asked you a question, what is one
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: tool that you can use at least to understand how
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: to use the strategy of a I are you back
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: with us? I still can't hear you. I can't hear you.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: See's talking of a whole lot. I'm quite sure, a
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: whole lot of knowledge and a lot of nuggets that
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: we should be grabbing. But you can't hear you. Now
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: I can. He was dropping a lot of nuggets.
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: Even dealing with Chad is like you have to a
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: lot of people are not gonna ever leave their houses
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: to do the research. They're not gonna ever take the
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: road trip. But just think about if you were able
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: to go with the check.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: I can hear you, at least I thought that because
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: she's going in and out again. You know, Deborah is
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: all about the business, and she's a great leader, and
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: she's she's led many and in different platforms on different levels,
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: different places, in different spaces. And that's one of the
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: reasons why I follow her, because I just love the
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: work that she does. I don't want to put a
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: spoil on learn in there, but she is the founder
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: of DFP Group, and I want her to talk a
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: little bit about that before we go any further. And
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: I want her to tell the viewers what the DFP
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: Group stands for. And what kind of leaders do you
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: most and do she most enjoy working with? So those
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: are some of the things that I would like to know.
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: Can you hear me, I can hear you.
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: I'm trying to add another device because I don't know
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: why this thing keeps playing music, y'all.
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: I don't know what's going on.
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: I have never, when I tell you, I have never
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: had issues doing doing a interview on my.
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: Cause I do this all the time. I have my
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: own podcast. This is crazy.
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: I'm like, whatever, let me tell y'all whoever is listened,
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: this is something that you need because I, oh my god,
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: this is just like so crazy. I have never had this.
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry. What was your question again?
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: No, you're fine, You're fine. I was saying that, you know,
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: you're all about the business and you're you're one of
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: one of the greatest things I've seen throughout this publishing
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: and as the founder of d f P Group. Before
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: we go any further, I want you to tell our
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: viewers what's the DFP.
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: Group And it encompasses everything that we do from the publishing,
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: my speaking engagements, uh my, when we go out and
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: do missions. It encompasses all those things and with df
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: P Group from the publishing perspective, we help our authors
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: go from inception all the way to their marketing, and
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: so we are there with our with our authors from
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: start to finish. And one of my clients and one
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: of my clients just said, you know, they're glad there.
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: Repeat. They were like, we've worked with you, we love
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: your team.
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: And so I have a full team that they work with,
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: and so that's what makes it so cool.
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: With d f P Group.
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: So from even now the I published. Okay, so, y'all,
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: I did a thing and I know black that I'm
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: gonna laugh at me. I stepped out on faith and
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: I did my first novel and I'm so excited about it.
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: And y'all it was so out of my comfort zone,
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: so so so so so so out of my comfort zone.
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: But God, a guy has opened up, open up the
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: door I have actually, and it's called Church Girl after Dark.
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: We're so excited about it, and so we are definitely
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: what we're doing with this novel is now setting the
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: base of what we're gonna be doing with our future
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: a current clients and helping them to promote their books
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: and helping them to get on different stages and developing
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: that book into multiple streams of income.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: So you see, this is what I say with Chad
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: and Ai, she has a tea of people that can
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: get you to those places that AI and Chat's knock
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: be able to get you to. I'm not saying to
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: dispel it or anything like that, because it's just like
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: us coming from the typewriter to the computer world. It
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: does help, but you still got to be mindful of
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: the computers you see acting up on us now, so
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: we have to still rely on each other and then
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: have each other's back as we go through this. Like
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: if I'm frozen, she knows to keep going with the conversations.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: She's frozen. I'm gonna keep going with the conversation. But
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: with Chatting and Ai, they just gonna stop. They just
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: gonna break down and that'll be it. They're not gonna
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: have somebody else come up in through there and just
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: to continue to assist them. So that that's the difference
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: of what I feel it is. So we hear about influencers,
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: we hear about influences. What does purpose driven influence really
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: look like in practice?
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: And my I think purpose driven influence is using your
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: platform for what it's there for. And I know that
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: sounds a little weird, but it's like a lot of times,
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: we have to learn how to stay in our lane,
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: stay in our lane and have purpose. And when you have,
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: when you know your purpose and you know what you're
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: called to do, then if you're.
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: Able to operate it any better.
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: Because I'm not gonna jump over black Diamond has her
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: way of writing, I have my way of writing. We
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: might be doing some of the same genres, but what
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: the way I write it is not gonna sound like
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: how she writes it. But we can still be in
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: the same room. We can still do some of the
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: same things together. Even though we're both authors, we're both
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: I think we're both publishers.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: We both do some of the same things.
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: But so many times people are afraid of being in
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: rooms with people that do the same things that they do.
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: But this is what I tell them. Best practices is
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: best practices. You never know who's in who you in
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: the room with. They may have an idea that you
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: need that It's not that you're taking from them or
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: they're taken from you. This world is big enough, even
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: down to I know her producer, but I know her
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: on a different level. I know her from a different space.
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: But at the end of the day, we still all
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: do some of the same things. But we can still
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: hang out together, we can still talk together, we can
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: still share ideas together, we can still do certain things.
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: But that's where people have to remove the fear. And
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: as women, we have to stop thinking that we can't
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: be around other women in the other and in the
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: same room and still share what we're doing. And we
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: don't share because we have the fear that they're gonna
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: take our idea. Well, guess what, somebody had an idea?
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: How many sail phones do we have? That's one idea
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: that multiple people are doing it because everybody don't do
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: it different.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: And I love what you said with that, you know
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: about us being able to support one another. I love
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: going to events more than nine going to award shows
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: because when you're at the events, you really get a
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: chance to network and mingle. You know, several times I've
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: been to some of them, and if I didn't have
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: what the person was looking for, is they're thumbing through
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: my book, I can always say go to that sister
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: over there, and vice versa. And then when we have
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: that little break in between we're looking at each other's books,
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: and we don't even bother to pay for it. We
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: can switch books. You have mine, I have yours. It's
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: not even about the cost of it. It's about supporting
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: each other other. And that's what I love so much
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: much about going to these events because it's a sisterhood.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: It's a brotherhood because we have some brothers that are
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: authors as well. And I especially love seeing these brothers
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: when they when they're out there, because to me, it's
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: just like a difference when you see them there. Women,
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: we of course we like to talk, but to see
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: a brother standing there and talking about his book and
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: talking about his feelings and a lot of that is
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: in his books. When you're talking about the men and
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: when you're talking about some and that slay that we
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: usually think the men of the beast. But Debra, she
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: is a global beast. She is a global impact. I
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: mean every year she's in Kenya. You travel internationally, including
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: visiting Kenya. What drew you there to Kenya and not
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: some other place?
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: As you know, it was just about the grace of God.
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: Because initially, I'll tell anybody, my bug for missions started
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: when I was in college because my church would do missions,
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: and so I did my first missions trip when I
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: was in I went to Zimbabwe. So I loved it.
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: And then you know, our years, years and years went by.
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: I finally connected with someone that was in Nigeria that
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: just totally did not work out.
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: But then I.
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: Connected with somebody in Kenya and I said, God, Kenya's
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: where we're supposed to be, this is where this is.
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: You're gonna make our connections flourished. And that's what happened.
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: So we even going to Kenyon. Now I think like, yeah,
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: last year made our fifth year, our sixth our fifth
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: year in missions, but our fourth year Kenyon and so
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: we have grown. We have supported UH young ladies in school,
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: we have done books, We've done UH workshops, summits.
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: The whole nine.
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: We have really changed our visibility when it comes down
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: to being in missions.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: So what did you learn from the people in the
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: communities you supported in Kenya?
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: One of the biggest things that I learned is that
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: we all are the same. I don't care it might
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: just the only difference is it might be a different
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: socioeconomic background. But at the end of the day, they
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: love God like we love God. They serve like we
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: serve and it's always different levels, but the biggest thing
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: is to see our people in total control, to see
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: our people as the president, to see our people as
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: the in the marketplace, to see our people doing doing
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: the things that we weren't taught that we do because
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: so often our history has been so let's just say,
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: wiped out, that we don't really know it until we
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: travel and get out and see it.
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: And so that's what makes.
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: Going going to Kenya and doing the missions trips, and
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: what I've learned from the people is that it just
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: I've you just learned that whole sense of self pride again,
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: that whole meaning of being able to be in that space,
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: in that place to do to make a difference. And
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: that's one of the biggest things that I've learned, just
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: being able to make that difference and see that it's
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: being appreciated.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: So do you think that that experience shaped your perspective
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: storytelling and service?
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: Oh? Absolutely, It's definitely made me.
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: More adventurous in my storytelling because even opening my mind
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: to be able to travel to the different book festivals
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: and meet people because one thing by me doing missions,
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: I was able it took that fear of going up
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: and talking to somebody from somewhere else, from a different
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: country and making those condos real connections. So now when
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: I go back to Kenya, I've met somebody that I
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: met at a book festival, Like whether we're in London,
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: whether we've been in Frankfort. It's just it's been really
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: cool to even make those connections like we have, and
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: it's opening up different platforms, has opened up different opportunities
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: to work with different business people in Kenya. So that's
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: definitely helped in developing my storytelling because is opening my
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: eyes up to see how similar we are as people,
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: especially as women. It is so cool to talk to
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: a woman in a different country and they experience it
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: some of the same things we experience here. Whether it's children,
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: the relationships, it doesn't matter.
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: It is just so so cool to be a because a.
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: Lot of times we think, oh, we're the only ones
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: that's going through this. Oh, I'm the only one that's
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: got kids that are great, carry Oh I'm the only
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: one in my significant other is doing his own thing.
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: But then when you go out in the country and
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: you hear these same stories, it's like, Okay, my story
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: that I tell will resonate with any woman that reads
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: it or hears it, and that is so refreshing.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: I've seen the pictures of you and your group and
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: Kenya and they're just simply amazing. They are, and you
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: believe in growth, faith and future. So how do you
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: personally stay grounded in a rapidly evolving digital world?
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: Oh my god, I stay grounding because I always want
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: to learn something different, and I know that has to
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: do with me.
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: Being an educator.
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: I know that has to do with me being able
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: to show up in different spaces, and so with everything
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: that's changing digitally, it is like I'm learning tips and
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: tricks to make things better, even down to even down
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: to tonight, having so many technical difficulties, I'm still able
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: to think on the drop of a dime because I
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: know some people, one thing would have went down and
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: it'd have been freaking out and you probably would have
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: never got them back on, Whereas I'm like, okay, let
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: me get my phone and see if I can log in,
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: and then if it had started acting crazy again, I'll say.
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: Y'all, hold on, I'm go get my iPad or.
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: You know. So having just having those different tools at
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: my hand, to use. That's one thing that in this
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: whole digital divide is that even though things are changing rapidly,
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: they're still still the same because the same tricks that
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: we learned while we was in college. Because you know,
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: when we were in college, computers were just coming around.
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: We knew, okay, so it's acting crazy, just cut it
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: off and turn it back on.
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: And sometimes that's what you got to do.
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: And so that's one thing staying grounded is not in
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: the other thing that keeps me grounded is that I
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: don't totally depend on technology for everything. And that's that's
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: one thing that we have to do. We cannot completely
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: depend on it. Yes, and make it a part of
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: your life. You're gonna have to because we can't make
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: it if we don't. But don't totally depend on it.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: So what advice would you give someone who feels called
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: to more but doesn't know where to start.
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: There's two things, well maybe three. One is just get started,
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: that's number one. Number two, find you a coach, find
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: somebody that you can talk to about what you want
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: to do.
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: Do your research, because a lot of times everybody not
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: like me.
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: If I say I want to do something, I'm just
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: gonna just do it. And I'm because I'm a visionary.
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: So if I see it, I'm just gonna execute.
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: Now. It might not be right, but I'm gonna try it.
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: And that's a lot of times where people falter is
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: that they just don't try.
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: Sometimes you just got to try to.
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: Do what you do it and if you fail, okay,
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: but get back up and try it again and learn
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: from your mistakes.
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: So one of the biggest things get up and do it.
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: If it fails, learn from the mistake and try it again,
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: because nothing's gonna be perfect that first time you try it,
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: that first time you go out, the first time you
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: think about it. The first time you tried to tie
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: your shoes, did you were you successful on the first try? No,
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: you had to keep doing it. Somebody had to keep
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: showing you until you got it. So that's just like
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: trying something new or getting out and doing something. You
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: just got to think about it. I didn't learn how
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: to tie my shoes in one day, So what makes
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: me think I'm gonna get this venture up and running
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: in one day?
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: Exactly? Exactly? Anutherers that I'm talking about. What does your
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: legacy mean to you at this stage? Of your journey.
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: Oh my gosh.
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: And that's that's an interesting question because honestly, I never even.
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: Thought about legacy.
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: And I know that I'm behind because okay, so let
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: me let me clarify that, because for one, I'm not married,
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: I didn't, I don't have children, and so in my
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: mind that that's what legacy equates to me, you know,
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: having that family, having that, And so I was like, well,
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: I guess it's just gonna be.
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: Me, mind I.
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: And when it happened, you know, when the Lord calls
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: me home, the Lord calls me home. But then I
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: started to think about what what What about my nieces
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: and my nephew. What do I want them to remember
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: about their they tia Deborah or they ain't Deborah. What
• 41:59
  Speaker 5: do I want them to think about? So now I'm thinking,
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: like I'm more, I'm like, I'm making sure that I
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: am doing these different shows. I'm writing down what I
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: want to be written down so that they will be
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: able to see that my auntie was a hard worker
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: and if she can do it, I can do it.
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: If she started it, how can I finish it?
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: So leaving legacy for me is definitely beginning to come
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: more to the forefront than it ever has because I
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: want to. I want them to be able to see
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: that they don't have to stay in the state that
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: they're in, and maybe through them, we'll start seeing even
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: the world to grow better because you know, and then
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: part of the legacy is what we're building in Kenya.
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: You know, what's our next steps there, And so I
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: want them to be able to say that we were
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: hard workers, that we were givers, that we loved what
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: we do, and we showed up for every everybody. Now
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: we may not have showed up the way you wanted
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: us to, but we showed up.
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: Well, don't don't cut yourself too short with you know,
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: saying that you're not married, you don't have children, as
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: far as somebody will leave your legacy too, because if
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: that was the case, then people like Maya Angelo wouldn't
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: wouldn't write the things that she is written and we
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: still remember to this day, and of course nobody can
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: copy it because there was only one my Angels, but
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: we respect her craft and that's a legacy, legacy she
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: left behind, maybe for her her own children, her own son,
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: but me not being related to her, I look at
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: it and say, wow, you know, I admire the different
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: things about her, and then when I started to write,
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: I say, oh no, my angel wouldn't think that would
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: be the proper thing to write, or that wouldn't be
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: that I'm not a poet or anything like that. But
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: sometimes I think about her when I'm writing, you know,
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: certain stories. So your legacy is gonna live on for
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: other people, not just your relatives. It's going to live
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: on for you know, other people want to write. Maybe
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: somebody will pick up or listen to this ten fifteen
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: years from now, or hear it or somehow it's gonna
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: be recorded in some other type of way with some
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: new fashion AI or maybe called ABC. I don't know
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: what it may be called by then that's the Hopefully
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: it's still around and they may hear it, just like
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: we hear old songs and they repeat things and they
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: change it like within the record business. No shade against them,
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: but a lot of the younger people their music came
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: from before they were even born and they're tapping into it.
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: So that's gonna be the same thing that happens to
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: writers and authors that their people are gonna look at
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: our style. They're not gonna be able to duplicate it,
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: but they're gonna find a way to refine it and
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: it's gonna be their time and their generation. So we all,
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: I believe, are leaving some sort of legacy behind is
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: just that we just got to figure out what it is,
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: but we may not have to figure it out at the.
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: Same time exactly exactly, And you know, so what sex
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: for you? And it's so powerful about what you just
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: said about legacy. But again, so many times and it
• 45:04
  Speaker 5: kind of goes back to one of the questions that
• 45:06
  Speaker 5: you asked earlier. So many times we don't think that
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: that our stories matter, but that is part of our
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: legacy because think about it, like you said, ten years
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: from now, somebody can hear your story and know that,
• 45:21
  Speaker 5: oh my god, if she did this ten years ago,
• 45:25
  Speaker 5: why can't I do this now? If she saw success
• 45:28
  Speaker 5: doing this, or she was able to survive, survive not
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: having all the things that she needed, why can't.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: I exactly exactly. They improved on the television, They improved
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: on the nineteen fifty six Chevies, you know people, and
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: that I wasn't mind having a fifty six Chevy right
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: about now. But when you look at it, modern times
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: have improved or or changed it. I'm not gonna say
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: improved it because if you get hit by a nineteen
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: fifty six Chevy, you done. Your business is done. So
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't say that it was improved. It just looks different,
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: you know, and it just changed within time. And that's
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: what's gonna happen with our writing. It's gonna change within time,
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: you know, when we when we look at people like
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: with John Hancock and when it was signing bills and everything,
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: the way that they were doing it, the way that
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: they were signing it, it's different than the way we
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: do it now. And that's going to happen, you know,
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: later on. You know, history repeats itself, but it repeats
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: itself as a refinement. That's the way that I look
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: at it. So you know, other people may look at
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: it differently. But what's next for you? And how can
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: I listen and stay connected to your work? Because you
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: have such great work and you're always on I don't
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: even know if they can even catch up with you
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: because you're always on the go.
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: By the way, have y'all seen those Christmas pictures of hers?
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: I don't want nobody to skip over there I've seen them,
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: don't think that I didn't.
• 46:57
  Speaker 5: So that's learning learning. That was me learning my new
• 47:01
  Speaker 5: some new software. On those Christmas pictures. I was trying
• 47:04
  Speaker 5: to make sure that they look like me. So because
• 47:07
  Speaker 5: so many people those Christmas pictures and I'm like, that
• 47:11
  Speaker 5: is not you. Oh my god, that is not you.
• 47:14
  Speaker 5: But I have definitely been working on that. And so
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: you can find me on everything, Deborah Franklin. You can
• 47:20
  Speaker 5: go to Deborah Franklin dot com. You can learn more
• 47:23
  Speaker 5: about me there as well as on all social media.
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: I'm Deborah Franklin.
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: If you want to catch my podcast, you can go
• 47:30
  Speaker 5: to YouTube a conversations Deborah Franklin dot com. Conversations Deborah
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: on YouTube, And if you want to find out any
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: about my books, they're there as well. And y'all, I'm
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: just so excited we are going to be doing we
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: have a comment. We have started our book tour, so
• 47:48
  Speaker 5: we launched it in Alabama this week. We will be
• 47:52
  Speaker 5: in Houston on February twenty first, and then we'll be
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: back here in Atlanta on every Word the twenty eighth,
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: and as soon as we know, we are definitely coming
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: to the DMV and as soon as we get those days,
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: we'll share those out as well.
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: Wow, this was one incredible conversation. You guys may just
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: be able to go stand out in your library and say, look,
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: I need to get some information on Deborah Franklin, and
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: the librarian might be able to tell her, because like
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: I said, she's everywhere. Everywhere you turn. You just Deborah Franklin,
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: Deborah Frankly Franklin. But this has been an incredible conversation.
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: I want to give a huge thank you to Deborah
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: Franklin for joining us tonight and reminding us that our
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: stories matter and that strategy faith and authenticity can't see
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: I have a problem with that word too. Authenticity can coexist.
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: Be sure to check out her book twenty one Minutes
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: of Prayer for Authors, Trusting the Process with DFP Deborah Franklin,
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: Deborah f Publishing That's what it is, and connecting with
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: her through the DFP group to learn more about her
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: work with storytelling, visibility and AI strategy. I'm not gonna
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: count AI strategy out there, and I'm gonna test it
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: and see where I'm at. But if I have problems,
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you a call because I gotta feel
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: and I am. I'm still old school, still the old
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: way of doing things. Look, I'll even go to the
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: library and look something up. As always, thank you for
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: rocking with Basic Black after Dark. If this episode resonated
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: with you, share with someone who needs encouragement to trust
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: their voice and their process. Tune in on February twentieth.
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: I'll be sitting down with Keisha's Sunshine Pace. I'm Black
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: Diamond and until next time, remember you don't have to
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: be whold to be worthy and thanks for keeping it basic.
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: Good night. Everybody gotta get me on the AI. I
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: definitely have to know more about it and thought that
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: I wanted to do with it, So yeah, you gotta
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: show me. You gotta tell me something because I've seen
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: the pictures and.
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: They're just wonderful and oh thank you.
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: They were beautiful when I flipped through. When I saw
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: it on Facebook, I said, wait a minute, I recognized
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: that person. I went back, I said that is that.
• 50:22
  Speaker 5: I said, hey, because what I was doing I was
• 50:25
  Speaker 5: playing around with hair color and then I've been learning
• 50:29
  Speaker 5: how to keep it true so it doesn't change my
• 50:31
  Speaker 5: body type. Because I was like, I don't want somebody
• 50:34
  Speaker 5: think i'm trying to cat fish them. And so what
• 50:36
  Speaker 5: I did is I make sure I've been loading up
• 50:39
  Speaker 5: the pictures because even the one that I'm using where
• 50:42
  Speaker 5: I'm in a full body red.
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: Suit that looks like me. So all I did was
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: took a picture and changed the color of the clothes,
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: changed the outfit.
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: Well, I thought it was a beautiful picture, and I
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: thought it was right on time for the holidays. And
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: I'm like, Okay, she's coming out with something now here.
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: It is for the holiday, this is this. I can't
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: wait to see what's gonna come for twenty twenty six.
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: And here you out with this book and your novels,
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: and you're traveling back and forth and your tours. And
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: I said, she's everywhere everybody, She's just everywhere. And I'm
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: just so proud of you.
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: I am so so proud of you and the.
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: Work that you're doing Kenya, and the work that you're
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: doing with publishing and everybody else.
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: I appreciate you.
• 51:23
  Speaker 5: And I apologize because I don't know what was going
• 51:25
  Speaker 5: on with myself.
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: You, Like I said, it's just up in the air.
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: It's just up in the air. And that's the way
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: that it is. What I'm thinking about doing this, moving
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: my office from down here upstairs. But then if I
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: say it too loud, that means I got somebody else
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: trying to move in here because they see it's an
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: extra room. So I just try to keep this field.
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: I try to keep the field because then hey, you
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: got an extra room, never ready to move in exact,
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: I've got kids, and they just look like I got
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: a space over it. No you don't. I don't have
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: a space over it. That's my office. So many of
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: them are told me to move it up to my bedroom.
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: For what my bedroom is for me. This is my
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: office space, and no I'm not. So I got to
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: figure out how I can get this to look a
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: little bit different than I might be trying to get
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: my equipment brought downstairs. So maybe Dad could be it too.
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: Maybe I'm too far away from it. I know, I'll
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: figure it out. I'll try to figure it out. My
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: daughter is the techi person. I'm not. I'm still typing
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: and doing one of these kind of things and trying
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: to bring back Mavin's beacon. If I could bring her back,
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: she can help me out. I'll look good. So that's
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: how far back I am. I'm not good. No, you
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: mentioned shoes, tying shoes. I still do the rabbit. I
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: still a rabbit. I don't know how to do the
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: other way. I don't know. And then this thing the
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: kids do like this and all that stuff, I don't
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: know how to do that. My grandson be doing all that.
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: Come on, grandma, do I said, what does that mean?
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: What is all of that? I said, you got that?
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: Said that gig sign you're nine years old, Dode, And
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: I said, no, we're doing all of that. I have
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: no idea what that is. I think it's rock, paper
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: scissors something And I'm like, well, what what what.
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: Do you mean by that?
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: So I'm just behind it some stuff. So it's a
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: good thing I have grandchildren that they'll catch me up with.
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: Absolutely. I tell everybody, kids got it. The kids got it.
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they do. They might have to teach me with
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: this AI STU. I'm quite sure they're using it. Well.
• 53:17
  Speaker 5: Yes, I have noticed that a lot of the kids
• 53:20
  Speaker 5: are still behind on the AI.
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: They trying.
• 53:23
  Speaker 5: They're using AI to write papers, but not they don't
• 53:26
  Speaker 5: know how to use it effectively, like to build an
• 53:30
  Speaker 5: additional stream of income. So that's where I'm seeing the
• 53:35
  Speaker 5: difference with them.
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: See now you mentioned in building a stream of income,
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: that could be something next that you might be doing.
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I actually I am.
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: I got some Oh well you know, yeah, there you go.
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: I might have to sit there on that class myself.
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so I still see we live? Are we live? Yeah?
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: We are.
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: I'm not worried about that. If people want to hear
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: and listen, they can here and listen. These are little
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: nuggets that they can hear. It's that free stuff that
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: you guys are gonna get, so take it because I
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: don't give out free stuff often.
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: So even with being a strategist, I'm gonna be doing
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: some workshops.
• 54:13
  Speaker 5: I have a virtual workshop coming up now February the
• 54:16
  Speaker 5: twenty fifth of the twenty six we It was supposed
• 54:20
  Speaker 5: to drop, but I was oh my god, we got
• 54:22
  Speaker 5: so turned around and I was so tired. So we'll
• 54:25
  Speaker 5: be dropping at this weekend. The registration will open.
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: Back up for that.
• 54:30
  Speaker 5: Uh for that. This is gonna be a Wednesday night
• 54:34
  Speaker 5: and a Thursday night, so you'll be able to come
• 54:37
  Speaker 5: on live and learn some AI strategies to.
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: Help you move your business forward.
• 54:43
  Speaker 5: We're gonna be talking about how do you have AI
• 54:47
  Speaker 5: AI workers because some of the things that I do,
• 54:50
  Speaker 5: I'm able to have an AI tool that will do
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: it for me.
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: So you know a lot of times so.
• 54:58
  Speaker 5: Much and I'm like, no, actually I'm not. And so, uh,
• 55:02
  Speaker 5: you know, to help you keep that visibility going.
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: Tailor, because I definitely need to know. Are you recording
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: this this session as well?
• 55:12
  Speaker 5: Yes, it will be recorded, so even if you even
• 55:16
  Speaker 5: for those that even those that register will also be
• 55:20
  Speaker 5: able to they'll get the recordings. So even if they
• 55:25
  Speaker 5: aren't able to make it live, they'll still get the
• 55:27
  Speaker 5: recordings from the night.
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: And then we're gonna have.
• 55:29
  Speaker 5: A special v I P session as well, uh for
• 55:32
  Speaker 5: those that want to go a little deeper and make
• 55:35
  Speaker 5: it more business, make it more tailored to what they do.
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: That's what we'll be doing during the vi P session.
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: Well, just send me this stuff for the AI. I
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: gotta do baby steps. I can't do no VI I
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: P right now, do the ab season of it. So
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: that v P that's that advanced stuff. I'm just at
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: the I'll sit there with second graders. If you're sitting
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: there long with them, I don't care. As long as
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: I can learn how to do it, I'm good. Because
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: they may show me how to do something on there
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: and say no miss, And when they call and start
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: calling me missing ma'am, that's when I noticed it's a
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: done deal. So I'm just send me the information so
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: I know about it.
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: We'll do, all right, we'll do.
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: And I'm finally gonna say good night to everybody, because
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: I see that's an extra little tip that you got
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: to that means to tune in more often without show,
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: because anything happens on this show, and it usually does.
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: Good Night, everybody, for real, for real, not everybody