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On Stage in NYC: Panel Show at the Comedy Cellar · Uncomfortable Conversations with Josh Szeps

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  You ladies and gentlemen welcome to the village underground
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  and now please walk into the stage Josh Zepz.
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  This is a thicket of chairs and tables thank you so much for being here at the village underground
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  thanks to the comedy seller for facilitating this to sub stack broadcasting all over the world this
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  live episode of Zepz Live uncutable conversations we've had a fabulous time in New York a true
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  all-american welcome yesterday with a roving gunman which is fabulous sorry I was impressed by how
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  cavalierly everybody took it um we were at a bar and my friend was like oh there's a gunman
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  looking at her phone and in some countries that would be caused to stop drinking
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  but my friends were just like where and she goes 51st street and they're like ah
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  have a drink we're on 49 and it's a lovely day if you're not if you're watching online and you're
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  not in New York City it's a beautiful cool breezy day in New York no it's like 37 degrees Celsius
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  which in Fahrenheit yeah that's right this guy says this is the surface of the south of Mexico
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  I'm without further ado let us go underway this is this is actually part of a world tour where
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  this one you're about to see with the one and only Matt Welch, Norm Dwarman, Camille Posca,
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  and what's what's your step and we yeah so Camille Camille is just
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  I mean I was on the show today one of the live screen just to be cry but it's true that's true
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  I was like one of those really heartfelt kind of like I'm a bro that I'm also sensitive inside
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  but it was ugly I mean there was snot and all sorts of stuff it was great the cameras had to get cut
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  no I loved it so I want to talk about what is that you got a you've got your
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  mind already with myself this is definitely you don't have here on the chest if you don't get
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  salt we can find out do we have streaming music I want to tell and so Colin Hughes unfortunately got
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  his day wrong and so he's going to be this and that Moynihan who's also going to be here
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  he doesn't know where he is there's always asked me to cut those we said he's
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  he's he's you're up what's on the thing he's converting I'm sure he's having a great time but Jesse
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  single will be with us for a little segment called Jew in the Hot Seats this is any good god
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  damn reason why Jesse single isn't with us right now yeah because he's a pussy yeah
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  yeah he will yes he shot shot shoot him for me I like you shoot him I want to talk about about
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  comedy and cold air and satire and South Park because I've had a sense lately that it's entirely
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  possible but maybe we've been doing the whole anti-Trump thing wrong and instead of just going
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  directly at Trump in order to try to reclaim America using politics the best way just to get
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  cartoons in any other type of a penis and mock him I don't do anything works right they tried
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  they tried to try walk through 2016 and 2020 Mark and then cold air I think he's almost
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  indestructible oh great yeah not everybody I mean what's the guy been through it but his
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  identity the generalist I mean there's like a theory which smart people understand better
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  than I do that Matt will understand this one if I'm in my hand would hear it we bring it back
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  to Scandinavia in some way to be sweet but I'm sure that it's true that like in authoritarian
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  places often the bragging will find it more difficult to deal with terrorists and artists and
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  musicians and pop rockers that it is to deal with actual official formal political opposition yeah
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  well I mean a lot of it is that you can do things that are that are more subtle so in the case of
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  Central Europe in particular you can you know right between the lines in your place and have lots of
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  heavy allegories like trybacker and metster I think like thinking about this in terms of
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  you know what can we do to stop Trump this time this is all that's already part of the problem
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  I mean like what I think well if one is really interested in opposing the things that a very
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  powerful person is doing is that you oppose the things that the powerful person is doing I'm glad
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  for that episode I mean it's the funniest thing in the world but just the fact that they're
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  right when Paramount settled with the White House and White Right May got their fuck you money
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  it was a nice welcome reminder that like we should have these sort of basic civic self-respect
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  to just do a lot of this to anyone who has power and that's that's not necessarily a message
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  for comedians just fuck knows they've been doing this now for 10 years very ineffectually but
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  it's actually a pretty good for the rest of us like you don't have to pretend that this is
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  that this is more serious than it is we're worth more of your attention that it actually is
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  and so seeing a micro penis in the desert maybe it's okay if you get a female when you
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  were blubbering like little babies you would talk about about the importance of kind of
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  transcending our differences our identities this will shock anyone who knows can be able to hear
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  and talk about how we have to get over our identity politics but you know he's basically saying
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  that like there's only so far the politics and tribalism can take you but eventually we have to
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  become one with like the universe or some shit like that I was listening but yeah I mean I was just
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  I'm like how well how do you feel about the the resistance capital R well interesting to talk
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  about the South Park thing in particular first I watched the episode today because I'd only
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  seen the clips before and as I was watching it what struck me was that it wasn't just going after
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  Trump it was actually just trying to be funny he was taking the piss out of the left that
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  Carton is denigrating NPR which has just had its funding taken away and he's promoting it going
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  away precisely because he doesn't have them to ridicule anymore that's why he's outraged and I
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  think that's that's the power of South Park it's one of the things that has helped to keep it
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  of the legitimate reliably funny franchise for a very long time they take the prisoners and
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  everyone is a target and Trump is also a target in a show like that I don't know what question
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  you asked me I don't know if any really something brought me a gin and tonic it only takes one
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  so you go fabulous I mean I think what would help take them down if they can make fun of this
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  make fun of people who are just crazy around them at Tucker Carlson and can you so
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  always this whole conspiratorial megabase that believes in aliens and and definitely going on
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  to the sea and this I think is throw around for to make people stop me and wonder but in the end
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  I take it down don't think that we'll take them down is bad results like he did these tariffs
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  if the prices had all shot up yeah that would be the beginning of taking them down or
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  or if the border didn't come down to almost zero for us it's down to begin to take them down
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  but very hard to take them down with jokes I don't know how do you hurt Candace Owens and yeah
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  Tucker Carlson I think it's not a famous but they're happy to tell everyone else you can't hurt
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  them but the notion that he somehow covers for these people that he to me that's that's what
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  would you know make him look worse to me let's talk about Tucker Carlson and you know Megan Kelly
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  and the and podcasts to stand more broadly you know they've always been saying that like the
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  podcast election and like podcast to the new place where people get their information and
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  have inspiring conversations I'm speaking disparagingly even as I both my living from podcasts
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  yeah all the podcasts right now but nonetheless it is not unproblematic for there to be a
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  fracturing of the media landscape in such a way that everybody can get all their information from
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  Candace Owens and that was a fight I just know like talks to these people all the time I
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  everyone here like does life in the table right if you don't you shoot what would you even do
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  none has an amazing just so patient with all of these nuts sandwiches and has it worked out
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  for you like I mean first of all like everything in life a lot of this is just to entertain myself
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  that's what I feel like to and I hate to say but I do think that even watching the news in some
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  way I have to take him as it is to to entertain myself and so I like to talk to these people
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  because they fascinate um has it worked out I don't think people were worried that I was going to
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  help them like platforming them I don't think that's been the case at all these people who the day
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  they ever came on my phone so in that sense I don't think I should be part of the problem
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  I think Josh a pursuant to your actual question like we all forget or have taken for granted
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  don't really appreciate the size of the collapse of the institutional media business it's
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  collapse way 80% like conservatively maybe like 90% in a matter of three or four decades all the core
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  businesses that are wrapped around journalism are just utter nothing prepared what they used to
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  have from LA the LA Times no joke used to be a thousand pages today it's 20 now like it's just
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  it's you can't fathom the difference and so in an atmosphere where that business is finished
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  and where the trust of media is even below trust of people in Congress it's like
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  the lowest regarded institution in like human history at this point um then yeah there's
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  going to be a lot of a lot of competition for eyeballs I don't when your balls or whatever balls
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  uh but like I don't like I don't I don't think it's worth getting upset about the popularity of
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  cancer um uh because you can't really do a lot about it but you can just get in there and try
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  to compete yourself and not be moan or not like just look back at what once was and like
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  be trying to to revive 1990 might be silly to get upset about something but still wise to be
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  worried about yeah I find it hopefully makes me a little disbanded in in large part because as
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  known as in the game earlier they have all manner of completely insane beliefs they also have
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  massive audiences and there's something that is pretty distressing about that because it
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  suggests that lots and lots of people are either as crazy as they are or willing to tolerate it as
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  you know yeah so it was a lot of time I mean it's also really stressful to go off against people
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  who are that chick crazy how do you do it no matter like what is your business for a lot of pressure
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  chest I wondered about this for a while and I talked about before you know when I was a kid
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  the weekly world knows in a national choir and a super market checkout yeah they had huge
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  circulation always yeah and the stories that they would run were very similar to the stuff that
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  Candace Owens and Tucker and we did this is true and we didn't we knew not to take it seriously but
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  now it's all for like Tucker Carlson's the best example he does he'll interview Putin and then
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  talk about Owens beneath the sea right and and it's it's still not clear to any of us how much
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  people take this stuff seriously how much of it is just it it it satisfies that appetite for
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  entertainment like the weekly world news once did I'm not clear on I'm not even sure that it
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  matters I'm not even sure it's less dangerous if it's just people not to be serious I'm not sure
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  because I think the collapse of liberal democracy can happen through a lazy cook off any
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  of bullshit just as much as it can through diligent commitment to untrue it's that sort of a
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  too deep I think I didn't have to believe a bunch of stuff that's bad shit crazy for the bad
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  shit crazy stuff to will still be corrosive to the way that the society function correct and I
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  think there's we've had a lot of corrosion in the last 11 years 12 years the populist era
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  writ large in this country not just Trump and also the rest of the world I think has been corrosive
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  you know like people used to make fun of oh my norms are being violated so yeah norms were
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  kind of something were our kind of important yeah like the you know we're just listening to the
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  radio driving down starting about this came earlier today and they had a report on the local
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  news radio about what do you know Trump was it was traveling internationally this week probably
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  not it wasn't really talked about but he was just out opening new Trump golf courses that's
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  what he's been doing the last three or eight so it's like and he's like yeah you know the best
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  of the golf course ever and best golf course in the world this world is in history and like
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  that's kind of corrosive we didn't use to have presents who were making business transactions
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  branded on their last name while they were in office this fucking weird man and I think we've had
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  a lot of those norms go go away and it's genuinely distressing but I don't think that it's
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  you know the solution to it isn't nostalgia for time to camp you know no but it could be
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  inspiration towards a time that doesn't yet exist there which people are yeah not quite swimming
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  and it's quite a lot of shit although there's a there's a sense in which one can very quickly
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  become to get a nostalgic for a time when everything was better when actually about five years ago
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  was just the left that was seriously deranged and believed all kinds of crazy things and even now
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  in opposition it's Jasmine Crockett who gets the glowing 30-minute read in the Atlanta that is
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  just this massive profile of a person who is just clearly totally self-absorbed not particularly
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  but or at least is actually playing a person who is dumber than she actually is in order to get
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  by political to gain some sort of political traction that's odd and that suggests to me in something
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  that's even more distressing than just like Tucker Carlson is a bit nuts and he's very influential
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  Tucker Carlson is a bit nuts and he's very influential and the greatest city on earth
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  New York City you may have like a democratic socialist gets elected who wants to turn all the
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  bodegas into state run grocery store chains like I don't know like everyone seems a little bit
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  batshit and I am waiting for the the silent majority to rise up and say enough of this bullshit
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  they're pretty fun to just go back at the basement it's really fun and silence I mean the yes of course
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  is not a uniquely right wing phenomenon but that's what makes it even more worrying when you see
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  that you know there's always this kind of pendulum swing isn't there apologies for the societies
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  or left wing they've become people right wing you hope that there's a kind of a medium that is
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  like you know reasonable but at the moment the swing is just getting wild to such a degree that
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  like what do you think what is your sense does it is it gonna just sort of shrink back to some sort
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  of normalcy or because if it keeps spinning out wider and wider and wider it becomes like
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  don't junior or talk about versus IOC or you know whatever then that's you know that's a
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  recipe for serious to be yeah I don't know we will have some we will have some crisis that
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  crises tend to focus the attention there will be some crisis no bad no we'll have a
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  bad crisis I think the word pretty much implies bad I had a great crisis for the day
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  so this is a prognostications of doom from you um no it's just like look at the fucking calendar
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  like the like sickle be bad things happen to happen and every presidency they happen and every
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  uh let's try to have a pandemic it was bad but that's bringing in just a lift of the pandemic didn't
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  make us that didn't make us any message right no it made us crazier and and the thing with the
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  pandemic like the financial crisis like 9-11 is that uh and it cannot be understood or overstated
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  that the uh roll of the elites the people who are defending the norms they all really fucked up
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  all of that really really bad I mean like three years ago we're three and a half years ago the
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  president of the United States was going around and saying this is only a pandemic at the unvaccinated
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  and that what we really need to do is kick Joe Rogan off Spotify and like sensor and Paul so he
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  doesn't tell people that maybe clock masks don't work and all this kind of stuff that is nuts and
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  like firing members of the military because they didn't take a vaccine that maybe they didn't really
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  need to take um all of this happened pretty recently um and it was the elite structures in like
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  scientific journals in in the NIH and the CDC they were enforcing this very um uh non-scientific
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  kind of groupthink uh set of ideas that was incredibly illiberal and it led to this
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  led to a self-debasement of the people who we should be normally looking to to solve problems so
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  there's a reason why people you know I remember a tablet magazine with a long-fawning profile of RFK
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  when we started running it's kind of bizarre and fight trillion words and and saying basically
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  since the elites have messed everything up then maybe every conspiracy theory is true I'm kind
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  of wondering if that was kind of it and that's not a great conclusion but like the opening bit
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  is like the elites did screw up a lot of stuff but we shouldn't sleep on it you know so in terms of
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  like they had a you know you mentioned platforming on like this idea that we shouldn't talk to
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  people who have bad ideas because that will be the exposure uh I think everyone here probably
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  disagrees with that notion but it's about how you do it right I mean the it's about
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  modeling a constructed way and pushing back on do you worry at all about platforming like is
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  a little limited uh I think that the people who because we said before that there are people
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  who are platforming like you know Darryl Cooper or came to sauce and Darryl Cooper is not crazy
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  who are really platforming because they want to spread his word just explain your job
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  Darryl Cooper is the um he's got by marga made on twitter he's a serious world war two revisionist who
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  has said things that sounded like the Holocaust was an accident who they had a full depend
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  people that church was installed by the Jews in order to pursue world war two by Zionist
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  finances things like that um so platforming just means putting somebody on the air
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  Donahue who used to put on KKK members I mean also it's about how landish and outrageous people
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  were platformed in the 70s to be taken on and confronted yeah that I'm all for now that yeah
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  it's just the idea of presenting people in order to aid them as they spread their word that's
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  worries me it's dangerous especially as we all uh retreated to bubbles and what we used to have
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  even though we thought we had totally free speech we talked about it before we had gatekeepers
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  and um though we may not want gatekeepers we benefited probably as a whole from those gatekeepers
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  who kept us kind of within a certain range of what we were going to engage with as a as a
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  polity I would put it that we don't range anymore I would put it that we've benefited less from
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  their gatekeeping function and more by their uh sort of leadership or actions by example
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  of producing actual good bits of work and so you would naturally kind of gravitate to that oh
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  you know if the Washington Post is covering let's say they decided to cover the Portland
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  protest in 2020 I could I could you know back in the old day you could trust the Washington
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  Post is going to do a good job including 2020 you could trust that Nancy Ronald is going to do a good
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  job but like seriously we were the reason why she went there is that we were sitting with Jacob
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  Siebel in my front yard and like who can we trust about reporting in Portland right now and the
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  answer was nobody and so we said get on the line um and that's a bad state of affairs for the
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  media and that's not the gatekeeping function it's not like who gets to talk or who doesn't it's
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  like who gets to do good work and now because of the institutional collapse and I'll
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  self sabotage I think on the part of the sort of professional morays of some people in journalism
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  that's kind of gone so I think that's the function I mean in terms of who you talk to but you know
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  there's a weird kind of uncanny valley where people will give you shit for talking to someone who's
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  a bit bad but they would know that if you spoke to someone been alive it would be fine because
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  there's a journalist he greets a newspaper yeah I will get much less shit if I do a podcast
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  episode with you know someone who's been to japan murder then with someone who said something
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  that's a little bit off script in a strange way and as a result a lot of people and a lot of
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  journalists and a lot of broadcasts don't talk to people who are a little bit off script for them
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  and that is what leads to what you're talking about with the Washington Post where you people
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  can't trust it because it's being reported from inside of public because those reporters don't
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  talk to anybody who doesn't think like that you see that's starting to change now the New York time
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  so anytime the the Democrats lose a presidential election there's like over the
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  this great six-month season of like hmm I wonder what a Republican thinks there's another problem
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  isn't there that news stories are now basically sold all the car it's not like you buy the New York
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  times and then you have any picture way through the entire thing every story basically
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  loads of guys based on its enticement to get you to click on it on an individual basis and that's
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  a perverse incentive to gin up the story to very often actually read headlines that the story
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  doesn't even come through on right and that story is a disappointment but the headline entices you
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  and this is just another thing to add to that list of things that are making our information
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  what the shots coming down I'm already buzzing from a few sips here I'm in the last
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  by train of thought I get to know you don't know I don't want to all right it's for Jesse when he
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  gets his bitch out okay yeah all right show me uh let's play a little game of uh
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  a funk merry kill and I'll give you some things and I want to hear you flesh out you three who you
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  would make love to who you would spend the rest of your life with and who you would murder so first
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  up don't Trump JD Vance topic constant I mean it was just gonna easy one out of the way first I
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  mean me and JD Vance are gonna make sweet sweet love it's just because JD Vance he softs you know
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  and he has soft hands he's a gentle man from the lecture but I won't be gentle yeah I won't be
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  gentle there you go I'm again you're forcing me to do this I don't want to do no no no you can
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  you can I'm thought of protest as much as you want to know um I'm gonna marry Donald Trump
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  and it's just just so I can redeem him so I can help him but because I feel like a lot of people
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  would want to kill him and I'm not going to do it okay I think I'll leave him with love I'll leave
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  with love and Tucker I'll kill him because you're forcing me to murder someone but maybe I'm helping
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  okay does he want to have a haunting and I did anyone have a different opinion about those
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  things yeah I would I would kill JD Vance I hate him more than any politician I really did
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  test this I don't know why that hurts me I guess I would have to I guess I would have to
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  fuck Tucker Carlson because he hates gays so much and I think Trump I would marry Trump because I
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  actually think Trump would be interesting and good company over the long time yeah that's true
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  he'd be entertaining I'm not gonna have to sleep with him Melania is stuck with him she gave him he
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  gave her bed right they sleep in separate bedrooms stop ergo well Matt do you just
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  sit without any of that no I'm just a little describing some other opportunities okay you're
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  you're you're we all push in first ones you know I gotta see oh man why don't we do with
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  A.O.C don't we wait you gotta make it a heart of the next
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  check please uh Bernie Sanders and Zora Memdoni
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  so I'm just going to get it let's go let's go
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  oh no I mean the fuck I will see for obvious straight reasoning
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  obvious to me I don't want to be for everybody I think that you marry Bernie Sanders for
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  that's a good choice yeah not for the breath or anything like that he won't live that long
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  exactly it is as I suspect to me as well as it's an inheritance play is this what you just
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  find your time and you get to inherit three houses it's gonna be awesome and then you know we just
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  like guess if we're going I know the piece loving hippie at heart but if we're going to murder
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  somebody the guy is gonna run to you okay any any impressive opinion let me look I mean
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  no no I'm not running I'm running I'm an important week in wife so yeah you're
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  a zero you're too easy all right come on next uh the next to the trio is Joe Rogan
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  hmm Black Spreeman hmm and Theo Vaughan man that this is hard because who's gonna get it
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  I always start there because yes that's where my mind is huh
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  yeah this is hard I mean you Joe Rogan is a great guy so you want to marry Joe no no no no
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  I mean I don't mean great for society I mean he's lovely he's a tabooly teddy bear you just want
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  us good great for society it's fine I think it's great that he has people listening to truck drivers
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  listening to physicists for three hours and I think I don't really know what I don't really know
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  what Theo Vaughan looks like but I think he's hot right or hot or he's hot or not he's got a bit of a
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  strong does he no a mullet a mullet sure the front party the front business heard what I heard
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  I had strong sure in the front long in the back oh that's not a day I'm not a strong
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  else you poor Matthew Welch has lived his entire life not knowing what long is he told him
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  the English language is rich my friend I would know this if you gave it up it's not that rich
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  I think you'd have to go you'd have to kill Lake Spreeman yeah yeah and you'd marry uh
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  Mary Jo and you'd uh no I'll switch Joe and Theo in that particular sequence okay
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  very good wait you fuck Joe Rogan be well it's mixed be fucked by Joe Rogan yeah we know we know who
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  by the bottom I know who's bottom I'm I am Scotts Jamaican we have standards here
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  I mean there's on the fifth column podcast which you all should subscribe to if I didn't learn
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  she's like you know I think I could take Joe Rogan MMA I don't know how to do it MMA I actually don't
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  know I just say in MMA that's not what I say this is every man you're a man they're a man in this
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  when you go when you meet a guy for the first time it doesn't matter what the context is
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  part of your mind is like how do I fuck him up like what do I do if we fight like what am I
• 31:55
  gonna do I'm gonna grab something over here I'm gonna club him in the face like this cork is
• 31:58
  going right in his eye I could like I like Josh I thought about that when I saw Josh today
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  it's just been a while like what am I gonna do and with Joe Rogan yeah I can imagine scenarios where
• 32:09
  I take him out and it's not it's not like in the octagon where there are rules it's just like go
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  for the testicles use that particular implement you think he would be he would be impeded by his
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  reverence for rules yes and you would be he's training you would years of training like how do I
• 32:25
  crowd McGraw no three more names Vladimir Putin the Ayatollah Khmeray and Kim Jong-un
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  another easy one I guess you got to kill the Ayatollah
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  it's not time for you in the hot seat yet Jesse shut up
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  I'm I'm I'm I backing into marrying Kim Jong-un you get back into the other thing
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  what's going on here and then you got a flood flood Vladimir Putin can you
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  I think that's right Russian horrors seem to be the best ones I think
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  wait is that a compliment or is it so I hear no depreciation
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  I'll give you three more names I'll give you three unless you really want to answer that one no
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  fucking kill the com he's first yes what are we even fucking doing we now watch red
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  dawn at age 16 and agreed to volunteer so you're marrying the Ayatollah Khmeray
• 33:39
  that sounds like a hard name I want I want to break new ground in my reading society wow
• 33:46
  wow okay here's another one for you Eric Weinstein Brett is Weinstein they keep telling me
• 33:55
  they would say it's like Weinstein Brett Weinstein Eric Weinstein Peewee Herman
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  was that what Peewee Herman Peewee I just would love Peewee for eternity that's that's the only
• 34:08
  you know I will marry him if he wants to mix we love we'll do that too okay so which which
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  Weinstein is getting a bullet
• 34:17
  that's easy no you got to kill Eric so that Brett comes up with a theory about it
• 34:25
  it's me the other way around Eric has the theory of everything okay last one for this is
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  we're gonna be audience participation and we're gonna do the three gentlemen around me okay we're
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  gonna do we're gonna do by round of applause uh of the first one that I will do not right now
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  is gonna be oh yeah how will I do I should probably you thought this through beforehand tonight by
• 34:46
  yelling out loudly yeah you're gonna tell me uh which out of these either Matt Nome or uh
• 34:54
  Meal it do you uh first one is me so suddenly children like I say fuck on my podcast all the time
• 35:05
  but the fact that it's something about the geography because it was me no it's these tables in the
• 35:10
  chairs I feel like I'm testifying before Congress or something so so far so everyone who wants to
• 35:17
  fuck Camille clap now I mean please don't hurt my friend I'm great everyone who wants to
• 35:25
  fuck Nome fuck it out everyone who wants to fuck Matt up now it's exactly the same
• 35:33
  it's not this is a little stronger me a little stronger but I think some of them are just shy
• 35:38
  which is fine thank you okay thank you for your endorsement who do you want to marry do you want to
• 35:42
  marry Matt you want to marry Nome that's it is no club no we shouldn't give it I think we're
• 35:52
  married I think so far we're fucking you and we're marrying you which means you get a
• 35:56
  board man all right let's welcome up the wonderful Jesse single to play Jew in the hot seat everybody
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  Jew in the hot seat
• 36:22
  can we talk about the elephant in the room for a minute oh no so we were backstage before
• 36:27
  here Camille asked he said I'm a little tired because they want to have anything to help me out
• 36:32
  Matt Welch opened up a child's backpack full of cocaine
• 36:37
  Camille gets into storytelling mode and he's lived a rich life he said after college he just said
• 36:43
  this episode if you will he he says this is a direct vote I spent a few years as the bouncer on
• 36:48
  Epstein's Island and I asked him what does that mean was it sort of in the supportive role he's
• 36:54
  like no I was knee deep in that chin again a direct vote it was hands job to check the ID to make
• 36:59
  sure now I over 70 get a humans well if you've listened to this much of the episode then you
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