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D4VD’S ALTER-EGO 'PAIN,' TESLA KEY CARD HIDDEN IN GUTTER, CELESTE, 14, BODY IN TRUNK · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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  Speaker 2: D four VD aka David Anthony Burke, the artist known
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  Speaker 2: as David's alter ego.
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  Speaker 1: Pain has emerged.
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  Speaker 2: After a Japanese anime, he created his own alter ego
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  Speaker 2: that he has come up with is Pain. This as
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  Speaker 2: the Tesla key card to his Tesla is found hidden
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  Speaker 2: in a gutter. Why who hides their car keys or
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  Speaker 2: their key card in a gutter and leaves.
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  Speaker 1: It in that trunk of that tesla.
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  Speaker 2: A little girl, Celeste just thirteen years old, when she
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  Speaker 2: goes missing body in.
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  Speaker 1: His trunk Tonight, no arrest? I mean, is he Grace?
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  Speaker 2: This is Crime Stories. I want to thank you for
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  Speaker 2: being with us tonight. The conspiracy theorists online sleuthing has exploded, with.
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  Speaker 1: Literally dozens and dozens of.
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  Speaker 2: Theories all centering around one thing, the SOD defense.
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  Speaker 1: Some other dude did it.
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  Speaker 2: But before we wander into the fantasy land of what
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  Speaker 2: might have happened, let's talk about what has happened. As
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  Speaker 2: we go to air tonight, we learn the key card too.
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  Speaker 2: D FORVD aka David aka David Anthony Burks Tesla, the
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  Speaker 2: one with the dead body and the front the front
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  Speaker 2: trunk of his very expensive luxury tesla.
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  Speaker 1: That key card to that tesla? Oh there you go?
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  Speaker 2: Why is it hidden in the gutter? Joining me an
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  Speaker 2: all star panel to make sense of what we are learning?
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  Speaker 2: Straight out to Christina Gonzalez joining us, A war winning
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  Speaker 2: investigative reporter, Fox A Loving kt TV joining us from
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  Speaker 2: this jurisdiction, Christina, why is the key card in the gutter?
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  Speaker 3: And you know, keep in mind, to be fair, there's
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  Speaker 3: like three other teslas on that block. But I have
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  Speaker 3: a tesla, I know where my ca and I'm living
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  Speaker 3: with the gutter.
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  Speaker 2: Dave mag joining me Crime Stories investigative reporter, where's the
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  Speaker 2: key card found?
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  Speaker 4: It?
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  Speaker 2: Reportedly goes to David Anthony Burke's tesla And why is
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  Speaker 2: it in the gutter?
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  Speaker 1: What do we know?
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  Speaker 5: Well, we know that it was found by a neighbor
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  Speaker 5: and it was found in the gutter, and the neighbor
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  Speaker 5: actually picked it up Nancy and turned it into police.
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  Speaker 5: But as is the Dayna, she posted it or she
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  Speaker 5: did on to Reddit, where everybody was able to pile
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  Speaker 5: on and talking about the relevance of finding a key
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  Speaker 5: card b at tesla that had a teenager's decomposed remains
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  Speaker 5: in it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to follow it with Steve Fisher in a
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  Speaker 2: moment about all the dust on that Tesla and what,
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  Speaker 2: if anything, it means. But let me stick with the
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  Speaker 2: key card. First joining me is Scott Iiker, digital forensics expert,
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  Speaker 2: founding member of the FBI Cellular Analysis Survey Team, who
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  Speaker 2: is an expert in Tesla's and their key card. Now,
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  Speaker 2: according to reports we've gotten Scott, and I'm waiting to
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  Speaker 2: confirm this that key card goes with David Anthony Burk's Tesla.
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  Speaker 2: If not, I'm sure we'll find out. Explain to me
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  Speaker 2: the significance of that key card.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I ought a Tesla, and when I bought the car,
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  Speaker 6: as a two thousand and two model Y, they gave
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  Speaker 6: me two key cards. They looked like little credit cards
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  Speaker 6: and you put it on the center podsol and you
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  Speaker 6: can start your car. Most people will hide those away.
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  Speaker 6: I put those in the safe of my house because
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  Speaker 6: I don't need them, because they can use my phone
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  Speaker 6: once I set it up correctly to drive, open and
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  Speaker 6: review all the camera stuff on my car. So the
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  Speaker 6: key cards are important initially, but then most of the
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  Speaker 6: time they're hidden away for when your phone dies or
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  Speaker 6: something like that. And you need to get into your car.
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  Speaker 2: Guys, just look at that. We're getting that from uh
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  Speaker 2: Steve Fisher Investigates And the shot of the Tesla key
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  Speaker 2: card is from.
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  Speaker 1: Running Back seven seven seven.
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  Speaker 2: On Reddit Scott Iiker. Can't the key card be loaned out? Like,
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  Speaker 2: if you want someone to borrow your car, you can
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  Speaker 2: let them you use the key card?
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  Speaker 6: Yes, yes you can. You can buck in because it
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  Speaker 6: doesn't have a name on it attached to it. It
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  Speaker 6: just runs the car when you need it to. So
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  Speaker 6: you can give it to a valet if you wanted to,
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  Speaker 6: or you can give it to your son if he's not,
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  Speaker 6: you know, already set up to use the car with
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  Speaker 6: his phone. You can give that to anybody to use
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  Speaker 6: that to drive that car.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to circle back to you in a moment,
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  Speaker 2: Scott Ker, because I want to find out everything I
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  Speaker 2: can about the Tesla NAV system and all of the cameras.
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  Speaker 2: Tesla's give you a three hundred and sixty degree view
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  Speaker 2: all around the car and it goes into a USB stick.
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  Speaker 2: Now where's the stick? Will the car operate without the stick?
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  Speaker 2: Has the USB stick been removed from that Tesla? From
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  Speaker 2: Burke's Tesla is what's on the stick also recorded in
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  Speaker 2: the cloud.
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  Speaker 1: Isn't it true Christina.
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  Speaker 2: Gonzalez joining US Fox eleven KTTV that a raid was
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  Speaker 2: conducted on Burke aka David aka D four vd's home,
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  Speaker 2: his mansion now I know valued it over four million
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  Speaker 2: dollars and a lot of digital evidence, computers, digital equipment
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  Speaker 2: was taken out of the home.
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  Speaker 1: Isn't that true?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, they took quite a bit of computer equipment and electronics.
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  Speaker 2: That is confirmed.
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  Speaker 1: By Scott Eiker.
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  Speaker 2: If this key card had been damaged by the elements,
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  Speaker 2: you saw it right, It looked wet, it looks degraded.
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  Speaker 2: Can that be rehabilitated to make sure it belongs to
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  Speaker 2: Burke's vehicle? And what if any forensic evidence can we
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  Speaker 2: get off that card?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm telling you, if somebody.
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  Speaker 2: Threw away the key to my minivan, it's like finding
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  Speaker 2: a needle in a haystake. But I would find it.
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  Speaker 2: That shot from running back seven seven seven on Reddit.
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  Speaker 1: Go ahead.
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  Speaker 6: The key card itself is like a credit card. If
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  Speaker 6: it's broken damage, yeah, it might be a problem identifying it.
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  Speaker 6: But it's like a programmable credit card, and just like
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  Speaker 6: anything else, you can get some forensics off of it,
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  Speaker 6: so it shouldn't be too much of a problem other
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  Speaker 6: than the elements that are on it. I doubt someone
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  Speaker 6: hit it in a gutter. I haven't seen the picture
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  Speaker 6: where it was found. It's more likely to drop it.
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  Speaker 6: It's in like the God of the street. But you
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  Speaker 6: could definitely get some information from that credit card or
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  Speaker 6: that key card.
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  Speaker 2: I want to remind everyone that as we go to
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  Speaker 2: air tonight, David Anthony Burg aka D four VD is
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  Speaker 2: innocent in the eyes of the law, and he remains
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  Speaker 2: innocent unless the presumption of innocence is pierced and overcome
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  Speaker 2: by evidence that proves him guilty. Josh Colsruw joining US
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  Speaker 2: veteran trial lawyer and former US attorney, founder of Colsuru
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  Speaker 2: Law Offices.
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  Speaker 1: Josh, thank you for being with us.
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  Speaker 2: This would not be the first time that a killer
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  Speaker 2: has thrown away evidence thinking nobody would find it until
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  Speaker 2: they do.
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  Speaker 4: Well, that's right, but this is certainly odd, just like
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  Speaker 4: other pieces of evidence in this case. You are odd.
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  Speaker 4: And what I don't like about this if I'm a prosecutor,
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  Speaker 4: is that the laped missed it. I mean, they're the
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  Speaker 4: ones that were searching the home where David was living,
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  Speaker 4: and they were supposed to have gathered all the necessary evidence.
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  Speaker 4: You know, if I'm the prosecutor, I'm going to be
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  Speaker 4: pretty mad that they missed this. Now a defense attorney's
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  Speaker 4: going to come in and say chain of custody. You know,
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  Speaker 4: how do you know that this wasn't placed after the
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  Speaker 4: police officers were there? How do you know that this
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  Speaker 4: isn't somebody setting up David. I'm not going to be
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  Speaker 4: happy about it. Also, maybe if they would have found
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  Speaker 4: the key card when they actually searched the house, they
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  Speaker 4: would be able to search it and get more material
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  Speaker 4: in toenasacs.
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  Speaker 2: Well I can answer that, Josh Colsrud, because it wasn't
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  Speaker 2: in the house, because it was thrown in the gutter.
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  Speaker 2: That's why they didn't find it.
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  Speaker 1: In the house.
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  Speaker 4: Well, there were certainly, you know, twenty detectives around there,
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  Speaker 4: and you would expect them to search the area. The
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  Speaker 4: vehicle was only found one hundred and fifty feet away
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  Speaker 4: from the house. I mean, it was within a half
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  Speaker 4: of block away from that house. Why wouldn't they just
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  Speaker 4: check around, look in the gutter, look in the bushes
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  Speaker 4: to see what if any evidence would be around there.
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  Speaker 4: It's standard operating procedure. The fact that a redditor on
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  Speaker 4: your own is embarrassing.
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  Speaker 2: Let me correct your statement at Josh Calsrude, you stated
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  Speaker 2: that the tesla belonging to Burke aka D four VD
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  Speaker 2: aka David was found one hundred and fifty feet from
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  Speaker 2: the home. That's what I believe you meant to say
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  Speaker 2: was the tesla containing the little girl's dead body was
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  Speaker 2: just one hundred and fifty feet away from Burke's home.
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  Speaker 1: It's not just a car. This is a.
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  Speaker 2: Car containing his girlfriend's allegedly dead, dismembered body in the
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  Speaker 2: front facing trunk. It's not just a car. It's not
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  Speaker 2: like he's getting a citation a traffic ticket, which she did.
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  Speaker 2: There is a dead body in there, one hundred and
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  Speaker 2: fifty feet away from his house. The car was not
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  Speaker 2: reported stolen, she was not reported missing by him or
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  Speaker 2: his entourage.
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  Speaker 1: Why.
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  Speaker 4: Well, that's the crux of the issue. If the evidence
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  Speaker 4: was so compelling that David did this, why isn't he charged?
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  Speaker 4: And the reason why is they don't have direct evidence
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  Speaker 4: that David did this. I mean, what's really strange about this, Nancy,
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  Speaker 4: is you know, he would have to be one of
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  Speaker 4: the dumbest people in the world to leave the body
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  Speaker 4: of his girlfriend in a trunk of his car yards away.
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  Speaker 2: Is actually stating too dumb to be guilty. Defense, Well,
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  Speaker 2: look at you actually using that people do dumb things
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  Speaker 2: all the time. Criminals are not that smart, otherwise they
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't be in jail. Go look, you're joining me from Phoenix, Arizona. Correct,
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  Speaker 2: Go look at the county jail. You think those people
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  Speaker 2: are smart, they're notice, that's why they're in jail.
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  Speaker 4: So part of what the media is doing is saying
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  Speaker 4: how smart David is by foreshadowing in his music what
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  Speaker 4: he did in this case. Well, if he did that,
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  Speaker 4: he has some intelligence.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry, she just.
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  Speaker 2: Shows because that's not what I'm saying. I'm not saying
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  Speaker 2: he's clairvoyant. I'm saying that possibly, just like Scott Peterson
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  Speaker 2: predicted it would be his first Christmas as.
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  Speaker 1: A widow and then boom it was.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not saying that the four VD aka David Burke
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  Speaker 2: is clairvoyant, that he foreshadowed these events.
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying that they mirror what's going on in his mind. Well,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people, maybe not.
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  Speaker 4: You are saying that this was his motive that the
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  Speaker 4: music that he produced somehow shows his motive in this case.
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  Speaker 4: And if that's true, if he was dropping hints and foreshadowing,
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  Speaker 4: then obviously he has a lot of intelligence for doing that.
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  Speaker 4: So if he has a lot of intelligence, why would
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  Speaker 4: someone leave a body of their loved one, their girlfriend.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not there's other issues with that, trust me, in
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  Speaker 4: the trunk of their car. It just doesn't make any
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  Speaker 4: sense whatsoever. And the more information that we get it
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  Speaker 4: shows that so many people around him had access to
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  Speaker 4: that vehicle. We know that she may have been living
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  Speaker 4: there place.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, you know what, let me go back through all
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  Speaker 2: my tiktoks. I've a masked of all the conspiracy theories.
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  Speaker 2: So you're buying into some other dude did it and
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  Speaker 2: then framed him. So somebody else killed this little girl, Celestecs.
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  Speaker 2: She's thirteen with him, g I wonder why somebody else
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  Speaker 2: killed her, partially dismembered her, put her in his trunk.
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  Speaker 4: Could be it could be what you're actually saying, Yes,
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  Speaker 4: yes it is. We do not know that's not the case, Nancy.
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  Speaker 4: We don't know that. We don't know it's not suicide.
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  Speaker 1: We don't know that she didn't overdose. John, You don't
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  Speaker 1: know what I think.
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  Speaker 2: We don't know that little green men from Mars didn't
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  Speaker 2: beam down and sneak into the house and drag her
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  Speaker 2: around and kill her and put her in his trunk
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  Speaker 2: all to frame d four VD. Really is that you're
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  Speaker 2: actually saying somebody trying to frame him.
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying that, you know.
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  Speaker 2: This reminds me of a theorist that claimed J Simpson's
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: son really killed Nicole Brown and Ron Goleman did did
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  Speaker 2: you believe that too?
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  Speaker 4: We had, we had forensic evidence in that case that
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  Speaker 4: title J Simpson to the murder. At this point in time,
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  Speaker 4: we don't even know the cause of death. We don't
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  Speaker 4: know if it was strangulation. We don't know if it
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  Speaker 4: was a gunshot. We don't know if she was pregnant
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  Speaker 4: with David's baby. There's so many things that we do
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  Speaker 4: not know yet. And what I'm afraid of is this
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  Speaker 4: going to be like Casey Nity all over again, where
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  Speaker 4: the corner is unable to determine a cause of death
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  Speaker 4: and there's not going to be any charges or a
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  Speaker 4: conviction in the case.
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  Speaker 5: Because of that, there is another theory someone is framing
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  Speaker 5: Burg for the death of Celeste. Multiple people are known
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  Speaker 5: to have been driving Burgs Tesla. It is possible one
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  Speaker 5: of his friends killed Celeste and in an effort to
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  Speaker 5: shift blame, laser remains inside Burgs Tesla.
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  Speaker 2: One of the many, many conspiracy theories that are populating
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  Speaker 2: online about who really kills Celeste. Let's just clarify one
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  Speaker 2: thing to Dodger Kendall Crowns. You know him well, the
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  Speaker 2: chief medical Examiner Terrant County, that's Fort Worth, Texas. Never
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  Speaker 2: lack a business in that morgue. He is an esteemed
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  Speaker 2: lecturer at the Brunette School of Medicine at TCU, and
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  Speaker 2: he is a star of a new hit podcast called
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: Mayhem and the Morgue. I just put it on Loot
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  Speaker 2: this weekend and listen to every single one of them.
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  Speaker 2: They're awesome. Dodger Kendall Crowns your podcast aside? Is there
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  Speaker 2: any way this little girl died of natural causes? And
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  Speaker 2: then what chopped herself up and jumped into the trunk?
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  Speaker 7: So no, the fact that she's been chopped up would
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  Speaker 7: argue against the fact that she died naturally a natural cause.
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  Speaker 7: She could have, oh deed, and then someone panics and
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  Speaker 7: then cuts her up. But that doesn't make logical sense.
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  Speaker 7: Why not just call nine one one.
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  Speaker 2: Rapper up more thirteen year old girl drugs?
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  Speaker 7: That would be people she's hanging out cars should also
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  Speaker 7: be a problem. Well, I don't think that's natural causes
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  Speaker 7: at all. That would be at best an accident. But
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  Speaker 7: due to the fact that she's being given the drugs,
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  Speaker 7: you could argue that it's a homicide as well. So
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  Speaker 7: there is no way she's.
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  Speaker 1: In a child drugs and they die. That's a felony.
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  Speaker 1: But you know what, I'm not going to attack you
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  Speaker 1: on that.
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  Speaker 2: I want your mind to stay clear as a medical examiner,
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  Speaker 2: and I get bogged down in the law. That's why
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  Speaker 2: I have Cole's rude again. The dismemberment of this little
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  Speaker 2: girl thirteen at the time she goes missing from her home,
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  Speaker 2: which is a whole nother question.
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  Speaker 1: Where were the parents in this scenario?
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  Speaker 2: They report her missing once she's brought back, and then
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  Speaker 2: she goes missing again. Says she's going to the movies
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  Speaker 2: with her boyfriend David. David, who you think for one
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  Speaker 2: minute when somebody comes to pick up my daughter, Lucy,
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  Speaker 2: I don't see them at the door and smell them. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: just like I do their school bus drivers and anybody
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  Speaker 2: else it's going to be around them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to find out if they smell like
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  Speaker 1: weed or alcohol?
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  Speaker 2: Who is using drugs around this little girl?
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  Speaker 1: Why do we only know? Oh she went off to
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  Speaker 1: the movies with some guy named David No.
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  Speaker 2: And then how long passes that nobody sees her? Or
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  Speaker 2: here's from her? Where were the parents in this scenario
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  Speaker 2: that said you were discussing natural or accidental causes? You
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: know who you're reminding me of right now? You know
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  Speaker 2: Jose Bias. Do you remember him? He was the lawyer
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  Speaker 2: and got a million dollar book deal after that. Kelly Anthony,
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  Speaker 2: a little tot girl died naturally by accident in a
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  Speaker 2: swimming pool, and then her grandfather this is not true,
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  Speaker 2: of course, and her mother, her bio mom, said oh,
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  Speaker 2: let's just put her in a trash bag and throw
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  Speaker 2: in a swamp, so you would actually go down the
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  Speaker 2: garden path. Doctor Kendall Crowns of this little girl dies
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  Speaker 2: by accident, and then she's chopped up and putting a trunk.
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  Speaker 7: Well, you can't put blinders on when you're doing an
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  Speaker 7: autime and just assume that they've been dismembered and that
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  Speaker 7: it's obviously a homicide. You have to go through all
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  Speaker 7: the processes and rule out things before you get to
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  Speaker 7: the conclusion of homicide. You can't just come in and say, oh,
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  Speaker 7: that's a homicide obviously, because then you'll miss things. They
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  Speaker 7: could actually be factual evidence. They could give you the
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  Speaker 7: correct cause and manner of death. Then if you just
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  Speaker 7: put on blinders and assumed it was a homicide the
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  Speaker 7: entire time. You can't approach everything with the idea of
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  Speaker 7: the mindset of you know what the answer is before
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  Speaker 7: you've done the autopsy. So what I'm saying is there
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  Speaker 7: is possibilities. People react differently to stressors and do crazy things.
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  Speaker 7: I've seen that a million times before, especially when there's
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  Speaker 7: drugs involved, especially methamphetamine. But you never know what someone
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  Speaker 7: might do. When someone ends up dying and they're famous
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  Speaker 7: and they don't know what to do, and they get
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  Speaker 7: their cronies to come in and chop them up and
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  Speaker 7: dispose of the body, that was what happened. But I
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  Speaker 7: can tell you this through the autopsy though. At some
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  Speaker 7: point figure out what happened, and more likely than not,
• 19:06
  Speaker 7: this is a homicide because they cut her up and
• 19:09
  Speaker 7: dispose of her the way they did.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: You know, doctor Kimill Crown's I've always told you in
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: such high stain, but I'm seeing you in a whole
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: new light right now, and I believe that you've been
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: spending way too much.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Time on TikTok. And this is why.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: If this is a setup, what a perfect person to
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: put it on.
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 19:29
  Speaker 8: He's got sad, depressing songs, He's got songs about murdering.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: He is the perfect candidate to set.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Up and frame for a murder.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: But I think even the true David Fins are really
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: starting to feel like, Bro, you've done this. We know
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: it's you.
• 19:47
  Speaker 6: I don't think David did it.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: I know the ruffleson feathery. I might get mad that
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: I really don't think he did it. I'm gonna be honest.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: David did not do it.
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: Man.
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: David did not do it, like y'all had spread the news, Man,
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: David did not do it.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: I think it's safe to say that David did not
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: kill nobody.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: Bro didn't do it, gang, yo, brow Just think about it, Bro.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: That is from at Killer A three.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: It is from at Qui Co two, from at Taking
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: Hooks and from at ink stacks all on TikTok. I
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: can't wait to look later tonight and see what doctor
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: Kendall Crowns has added. Maybe he will talk in a
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: chipmunk voice, just like our last contributor, Crime Stories with
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: Nancy Grace. Maybe maybe, maybe, But can we talk about
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: the likelihood that someone murdered a little girl that reportedly
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: was in a romantic relationship with an older guy and
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: that would be Burke A. K. David who would have
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: a motive to kill her? And why dismember her and
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: put her in his trunk to frame him? You know?
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: Karen Stark is joining me forensic psychologist, TV radio trauma
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: expert at Karenstark dot com. Karen, that's a lot of
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: work to frame a young musical artist. Why why would
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: anyone want to frame him? That's crazy talk. Do you remember,
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Karen Stark? When Scott Peterson murdered his wife Lacey and
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: their unborn child, Connor, and one of the defense theories
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: that Mark Geerges floated was someone took Lacey and then thought, Wow,
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Scott Peterson will be the perfect person to frame, So
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: I'm going to go dump her body where he goes fishing.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: So this person knows for Scott Peterson fishing and waits
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: for just the right time and then dumps the body
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: and then stands by and waits for it to be found.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: That's crazy talk. Well, it doesn't to me.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: It doesn't make a lot of sense.
• 22:11
  Speaker 9: Nancy. Just I feel the way you do because he
• 22:14
  Speaker 9: was the one that osensibly was in the relationship with her.
• 22:18
  Speaker 9: So I don't understand why everyone is.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Thinking about somebody planting.
• 22:23
  Speaker 9: Her or choosing him. It doesn't make a lot of
• 22:26
  Speaker 9: sense to me. They were intimately involved.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: Celeste is found dead in the trunk of his tesla.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Celeste's body was found in a black tube cop and
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: ripped jings. Her body was an advanced state of decapation.
• 22:42
  Speaker 7: It's obviously a homicide.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: The big Rock and Roll hit Send Lawyers, Guns and Money,
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: and nothing could be truer in this case.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Lawyers, Guns and Money.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: Number one David aka David Anthony Burke aka D four
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: VD admits his dad is a litigator. Listened not at all.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: My dad is a litigator for a law firm.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: I thought there was a teacher. She doesn't do it anymore,
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: but she doesn't notice right now. That is from and
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: the writer is on YouTube. Does that explain why he
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: has remained silent? Otherwise known as exercising your fifth Amendment right?
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Christina Gonzalez joining us Fox eleven KTTV. Has he issued
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: he being burke? Has he issued any statement regarding Celeste's death?
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: Not from day one, Not from day one, even as
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: they were looking, as they were found a body. As
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: he continued in the concert, he talked about the concert,
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: but he never said anything about his girlfriend missing or
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: a body in his trunk.
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: Nothing.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: It was his pep who said he was mote cooperating.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: But wait a minute, did he continue his withered world
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: tour after she goes missing? Because the lapd is saying
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: she's been in that trunk for a long time.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: And that's the question, okay, because one thing is imagine
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: your girlfriend went away and you didn't know where she was.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: But sadly they find a Yes, he continued the concert.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: He continued the concert as they found the body. Granted
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: it was his first big concert, but he never stopped.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: He never issued a statement saying, oh my god, I'm
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: trying to help nothing at all, which close.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: To what you're saying.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's being well advised by somebody.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Josh calls, rejoining US criminal defense attorney and former assistant
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: US attorney, Josh, you don't think that's odd that she
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: goes missing the little girl he's been with reportedly since
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: she was eleven, which is a whole another can of worms.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: He doesn't put out a public appeal to find her. Nothing,
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: no comment, and now after her body's been found in
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: his trunk steal.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Nothing.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: Everything that he's done after the discovery of the body
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: has been very intelligent. You know, when you're under scrutiny,
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: you want to remain silent because everything that you do
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: is going to be viewed under the lens of a microscope.
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: And here, you know, he he does have good people
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: around him. His father has litigation experience as a tech,
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: his mother is a teacher, and he has good people
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: around him at his uh you know, the music industry.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: So that good people. What do you mean by good
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: people around him? People to tell you abou't.
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: Talk no, Only that they are protecting him is what
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: I mean. Not that they are morally good people. But
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: what you don't want is a prosecutor to be able
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: to look at what you say or even what you
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: don't say and hold it against you later on inside
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: of a courtroom, because right now there's no direct evidence
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: that he's involved, at least none that has been disclosed
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: to the public, and the police are still working on motive,
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: which hasn't been established here. So what you don't want
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: is to give them any breadcrumbs leading to yourself, especially
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: when there's so much suspicions.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Sund Wish.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: I appreciate all you have to say about all the
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: quote good people around him protecting him. I'm just stating
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: if my husband went missing, I would be all over
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: the action needs six ten and eleven, begging for somebody
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: to help me find him and bring him home. Right.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: I don't care what anybody else has to say, or
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: all the good people telling me to shut my pie hole.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: No and speaking of people around him.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: As we go to air tonight.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: His manager is speaking out because many people are claiming,
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: let's see a shot of that mansion, the one that
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: is just blanketed in video cameras. I can't wait to
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: see what they reveal. But Dave Mac, in the last hours,
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: this is where our friend's over at TMZ. Thanks Harvey Levin,
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: Dave Mac, the manager, Josh Marshall, and founder of Mogul Vision,
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: has taken a TikTok to point out he knows nothing
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: about any of this.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: He's claiming Dave mac that he did.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Not live there, as many people state that it wasn't
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: his place. He doesn't know about the cameras there, he
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: doesn't know what.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: Was going on there.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: That he actually lives in Texas with his wife and
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: I believe it, has three children.
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: Josh Marshall founded mogul Vision, and he is denying any
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: and all involvement. And he pointed out a couple of
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: very important points Nancy, he does have three children, and
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: he pointed out he has a daughter that's fourteen years old,
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: the same age as the victim in the car. He
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: lives with his wife and children in Texas. And he
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: also points out he does ninety five percent of his
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: work from Texas. He does it remotely, as many people
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: do these days.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: He did lease that house.
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: It was leased in his name, but that's not an
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: uncommon thing for managers to do for the people they represent.
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: So Josh Marshall saying no, I'm not involved at all
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: and know nothing about it.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: Many online fluths are stating, here's a quote I swear
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: to God, I've been saying this to my boyfriend.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: I think Josh did it.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Girltown In Jay responds, I think he's heavily involved. Okay,
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: and he Josh Marshall, the manager, goes to social media
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: and says, I will speak on this matter, just this
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: one time. This has been a tough time for my family.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: I'm a father of three. I receive no emails and
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: I'm no one's roommate. In other words, emails that his
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: client was with a young girl. I live full time
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: at home with my wife and kids. My daughter's for fourteen,
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: and this news is affecting so many lives. I have
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: zero knowledge of anything, and I don't even live in California.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: So the online sluthor so desperate for a conspiracy theory
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: to point the finger at somebody else, They're now pointing
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: the finger at his manager, who was not even.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: On the scene.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: Oh, Josh calsrud, I guess you can't blame him.
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: Well, you know, I don't think that there is any
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: evidence showing that the manager is involved. And also, you know,
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: there was kind of a controversy that David moved out
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: of his house abruptly. But what people don't understand was
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: that the manager was for this and as soon as
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: David stopped making money for the company, you know, they
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: kicked him out. Essentially they're no longer making money. So
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: I think the manager is being responsible. He wants to
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: distance himself.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: The manager did not kick Burke out of that mansion.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know what you're saying.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: Well, he was the one that was paying for it,
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: and he's the one that broke the leaves. The manager did.
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: It wasn't David, and he did know.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: The manager may have been writing checks for it or
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: sending transmissions, but that money came from his client Burke. Marshall,
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: the manager wasn't living there, and he had obtained that
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: mansion for Burke to live in, not him. He wasn't
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: living there. He has never lived there, and the point
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: is that is a dead end.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Marshall. The manager had nothing to do with this.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: But speaking of those in the know, we were talking
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: about send lawyers, guns and money. Burke's mom spotted out
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: shopping for an a R fifteen semi automatic.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: The singer's mother silent regarding her son. But Colleen Burke
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: caught on camera leaving a Texas gun store with what
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: appears to be a large security man standing nearby. In
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: her hands an instruction manual for an AR fifteen semi automatic.
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: Not clear if she purchased anything, but it is the
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: first time she's been seen in public since the decomposing
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: remains of a child found in her son's tesla.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: I wonder if his family members or others are getting
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: threats and feel they got to arm themselves. Crime stories
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: with Nancy Grace. That said, and now I want to
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: talk about the money.
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: Listen, many people wondered how a twenty year old he
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: could be driving a Tesla and renting a home for
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: twenty thousand dollars a month. At seventeen, Burke signed a
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: record deal with advanced fees, paying him three million dollars guaranteed,
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: with a contract that was valued at six million if
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: certain goals were met. As part of the deal. Burke
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: already released two EPs, one full album and was on
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: a world tour promoting that album when Celeste was found
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: decomposing in his tesla.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: That's a lot of money.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Speaking of all the money and the manager straight back
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: out to Steve Fisher joining us. Steve Fisher, the manager
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Marshall took to social media to deny any involvement. He
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: actually sent that response to you, and he referred to
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: an email.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: What email he's.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Saying, I didn't know about any email. What email is
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: he talking about.
• 32:57
  Speaker 8: So I got contacted by somebody very close to the
• 33:00
  Speaker 8: family that told, you know, showed me an email that
• 33:04
  Speaker 8: was sent to Josh and somebody else in his camp
• 33:09
  Speaker 8: when she first went missing in twenty twenty four. They
• 33:12
  Speaker 8: had learned that she was likely with him, and they
• 33:14
  Speaker 8: sent a letter to him. And I'll just say his
• 33:17
  Speaker 8: wife also saying, you know, here's from missing poster. She's
• 33:22
  Speaker 8: thirteen years old. She is with this guy, and then
• 33:27
  Speaker 8: the next day she showed up back home. And so
• 33:32
  Speaker 8: I think for Josh to say that he knows nothing
• 33:35
  Speaker 8: about this is disingenuous. And I will say LAPD called
• 33:40
  Speaker 8: them up.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: Do you know he got the email? Do you know
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: the email address? So we don't know that you got
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: the email.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: You said it was sent to his wife. Who's telling
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: you all this the person.
• 33:52
  Speaker 8: Who sent the email. And I will say LAPD called
• 33:55
  Speaker 8: last week when I put that out, and they now
• 33:58
  Speaker 8: have a copy of the email, and they did verify
• 34:01
  Speaker 8: that the email address is correct. Whether you open it
• 34:04
  Speaker 8: or not, we don't know, but she did show up
• 34:07
  Speaker 8: the next day. But LAPD has the letter. They requested
• 34:10
  Speaker 8: it and they have it.
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: Friends of Burke thought Celeste was nineteen and his girlfriend,
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: describing Burke as a very shy, quiet person. Friends said
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: they saw Burke and Celesti together a lot as a
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: romantically involved couple. Thinking Celeste was a student at usc
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: Friends of Burke saw Celestia at age restricted venues and clubs.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: So apparently she was being passed off as much older
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: than she actually was. And I'm noticing all the photos
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: that are posted off her, She's always covering her face.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: Very curious.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Check it out, photo after photo after photo, she always
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: has her face covered very quickly. To Karen Stark, joining
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: us forends, it's psychologist. Karen, I want to touch on
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: the fact that Burke's alter ego Pain has emerged. Can
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: I see what he posted regarding his alter ego? Karen
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: Stark says, we've officially named the Blindfold character. His name
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: is Etami, that means pain and Japanese, and in all
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: of the videos after that, he personifies Etami. His alter id.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: His alter ego is quote pain. That's troublesome Karen Stark, Well.
• 35:30
  Speaker 9: It's something that doesn't surprise me, Nancy, because it's a
• 35:33
  Speaker 9: great way for him to cover up or not be
• 35:38
  Speaker 9: associated with that part of him that is perhaps homicidal
• 35:43
  Speaker 9: or talking about death and killing. So he doesn't do
• 35:47
  Speaker 9: it through David to himself. He does it through his
• 35:51
  Speaker 9: alter ego, which keeps him innocent to make it be
• 35:55
  Speaker 9: okay to have that dark side of their personality.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: You know, that's I just find that very disturbing. You know,
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: I've got a lot of nicknames for my children. My
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: son is awesome, he is big boy. He is my son,
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: My daughter is little Girl, my angel Mini me pain
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: is not really one of them. But I'm sure Josh
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: Colesry would object that coming into evidence. That said, an
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: ultra ego name does not a murder case make. So
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: let's talk about hard evidence. Back to Scott Aiker, joining
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: US digital forensics expert, founding member of the FBI Cellular
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: Analysis Survey Team. He is at PCA Experts dot com
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: Precision Cellular Analysis. Scott, I want to talk about the Tesla.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: What evidence, if any, can I get from all of
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: those cameras on the Tesla?
• 36:55
  Speaker 6: Well, the Tesla has a trove of information, not only
• 37:00
  Speaker 6: the cameras that are recording almost all the time in
• 37:03
  Speaker 6: Century mode. That's basically when you park the car, someone
• 37:07
  Speaker 6: comes up to the car, it actually activates the camera
• 37:10
  Speaker 6: and sends that stuff to a USB drive in the car.
• 37:16
  Speaker 6: That USB drive can be removed, a new one can
• 37:20
  Speaker 6: be replaced when it's full. You could delete that information
• 37:24
  Speaker 6: from the USB drive either via the app or while
• 37:27
  Speaker 6: you're in the car. But there's a ton much stuff
• 37:29
  Speaker 6: that that Tesl records, not only the cameras, but the
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: telematics of the car, when it was driven, how far
• 37:37
  Speaker 6: it was driven, stuff like that. There's even a camera
• 37:42
  Speaker 6: that's facing the driver now that's used for the full
• 37:46
  Speaker 6: self driving mode to make sure you're still awake, you're
• 37:48
  Speaker 6: paying attention to the road. And I believe that's still
• 37:52
  Speaker 6: stored in the car itself. I don't believe there's anything
• 37:55
  Speaker 6: stored in the cloud, but it's all stored in the car.
• 38:00
  Speaker 6: That USB drive and they do a extraction of the
• 38:03
  Speaker 6: data from the Tesla itself has going to be a
• 38:06
  Speaker 6: trove of information. Not only that, there's a phone in
• 38:10
  Speaker 6: the car, embedded in the car, so you can use
• 38:13
  Speaker 6: find the records for that phone and see what towers
• 38:16
  Speaker 6: it is using. There's just so much information they're going
• 38:18
  Speaker 6: to get from this Tesla.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: Scott Iiker, are you telling me that all of that
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: data is not stored in the cloud, that if someone
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: throws away or destroys the USB, it's over. I can't
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: recover that.
• 38:31
  Speaker 6: That's what I understand. In my Tesla, there's a USB,
• 38:34
  Speaker 6: and when I can learn, even on my app and
• 38:37
  Speaker 6: look at the recordings from the cameras, it says it's
• 38:42
  Speaker 6: connecting to the car to get that data, not to
• 38:46
  Speaker 6: a cloud.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: From what I understand, the Tesla.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Has a front facing camera, two cameras on the windshield,
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: two cameras on the side fenders, a rear facing camera
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: and gets a three hundred and sixty degree view of
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: the Tesla's environment while driving. The dash cam uses exterior
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: cameras recording footage in a loop, continuously capturing the car's surroundings.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: My question is, Scott Iiker, I assume that includes the trunk,
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: the front facing trunk. There would be a camera on
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: the trunk that would presumably have caught whoever put her
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: body in it.
• 39:31
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that is correct, that'd be the dash camera, the
• 39:34
  Speaker 6: one that's facing outward from the car, not inside the car,
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  Speaker 6: and it faces right down the hood of the car,
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  Speaker 6: So there should be footage of whoever's accessing the front
• 39:44
  Speaker 6: or the front trunk of that car, and all around
• 39:46
  Speaker 6: the car as they walk up to it.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: Another question you mentioned century mode century sentry for instance,
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: like a guardian a century place. Say let's pretend around
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: a military fort. Right, would you have to disable the
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: sentry mode like you unlock a car remote in order
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: to get in the car or would it set off
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  Speaker 2: an alarm? I'm just trying to figure out if that
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: car was moved to place to place to place along
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  Speaker 2: that high end neighborhood street, someone would have to know
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  Speaker 2: how to disable.
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  Speaker 1: The sentry mode to crank up the car and move it.
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  Speaker 6: No, the centry mode itself turns off as you come
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: up to the car with the key, so it turns
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  Speaker 6: out that part off. Then you're allowed to enter the
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: car and then drive it, so it's only recording as
• 40:37
  Speaker 6: its part.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: Can anybody remove the USB?
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: Like, where's the USB kept in the vehicle?
• 40:45
  Speaker 6: It's actually in the globbox. Surprisingly, you open the glovebox
• 40:48
  Speaker 6: and it's just sitting right there. You can pull it
• 40:51
  Speaker 6: out and put another one in if you needed to.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: This case is ongoing. It is under investigation as we speak.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: No arrest has been named, no person of interest has
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: been named. We want justice for this little girl, Celeste.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: If you know or think you know anything, even if
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: you think it is insignificant, please dial two one three
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: four eight six six eight nine zero. Repeat two one, three, four,
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: eight six six eight nine zero. We will get answers
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: as to what happened to Celeste. Grieve us and now
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: we remember an American hero, Deputy Sheriff Michael Hartwick of
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: Penelas County, Florida, killed in the line of duty, serve
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: nineteen years with the Sheriff's office and leaves behind two
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: grieving sons, William and Brandon. American hero Deputy Sheriff Michael Hartwick.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: Nancy Grace signing off goodbye friend,