Latest / Inside Country with Wayne D / Holy Craps w/ Thomas Rhett

Transcript

Holy Craps w/ Thomas Rhett · Inside Country with Wayne D

0:00
Speaker 1: I'll tell you I haven't been clean. When's the last
0:02
Speaker 1: time you were clean shaven?
0:03
Speaker 2: Dude?
0:04
Speaker 3: So about three weeks ago, right before we went on
0:07
Speaker 3: our trip to Africa, I was like, I'm going to
0:08
Speaker 3: shave pretty good so I don't have to do it
0:10
Speaker 3: while I'm over there.
0:11
Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh, the.
0:12
Speaker 3: Day before my kids left, Lily, my two year old,
0:15
Speaker 3: was playing with my beard trimmer, and she was like
0:19
Speaker 3: messing with all the different attachments. And I normally just
0:21
Speaker 3: keep my own, like I have one guard that I
0:23
Speaker 3: use and I never shave up, always shaved down, yep.
0:26
Speaker 3: And so I went for it and I just started
0:28
Speaker 3: right here and went down and I was like, oh no,
0:31
Speaker 3: I think Lily had like changed the guard for like
0:34
Speaker 3: one of the real small ones, and like, you know,
0:36
Speaker 3: I just have a stripe on my face and so
0:39
Speaker 3: you're not going to rock the strike. So I just
0:40
Speaker 3: had to get all of it to go and I
0:42
Speaker 3: FaceTime my wife.
0:43
Speaker 2: She's like, what happened to you?
0:45
Speaker 3: And I was just like, this is this is the
0:47
Speaker 3: me you got at least for the next three days
0:49
Speaker 3: until it starts to go back.
0:50
Speaker 1: So I note the double standard is so messed up, dude.
0:54
Speaker 1: Could you imagine if she went to like the salon
0:56
Speaker 1: and your and your responsor was what happened?
0:59
Speaker 4: What happened?
1:00
Speaker 2: Hey, you look awesome, Like what did you do? I
1:03
Speaker 2: love it?
1:04
Speaker 4: It'd be over. You'd have a reason for a whole
1:06
Speaker 4: new album. It would be over.
1:08
Speaker 2: Right.
1:09
Speaker 4: Listen, I got to ask you.
1:10
Speaker 1: One of the biggest things that we get to do
1:12
Speaker 1: as a company all year is the iHeartRadio Music Festival.
1:16
Speaker 4: We're back in Vegas again this year.
1:18
Speaker 1: What's the process on an artist on getting invited to
1:22
Speaker 1: that and what does it mean for you to come
1:24
Speaker 1: back again this year?
1:25
Speaker 3: It's a huge honor, man, Like, you know, I think
1:27
Speaker 3: to be invited to anything that is all genre, like
1:30
Speaker 3: as a country artist is a huge deal.
1:32
Speaker 2: You know.
1:32
Speaker 3: I think I got to do it once like twenty
1:35
Speaker 3: sixteen maybe, and so it's it's definitely been a minute.
1:38
Speaker 3: But to be on that bill with that many, you know,
1:42
Speaker 3: different types of artists is such a huge honor. And so,
1:45
Speaker 3: you know, for us, I think that process sort of
1:47
Speaker 3: looks like, hey, how do we make this set list
1:49
Speaker 3: like the most banging thirty minutes that we got in
1:52
Speaker 3: our tank? You know, because you're you're kind of playing
1:54
Speaker 3: for people that some may know who you are, but
1:57
Speaker 3: more than likely there's a lot of people that don't
1:58
Speaker 3: know who you are. So it's a great opportunity to,
2:01
Speaker 3: you know, make new fans, meet some artists that you
2:03
Speaker 3: might be able to collab with one day, and it's
2:05
Speaker 3: just it's a huge It's a huge deal for me
2:07
Speaker 3: in my camp for sure. We're and for it being Vegas. Dude,
2:10
Speaker 3: I love Vegas at least for forty eight hours, and
2:14
Speaker 3: so to be there, getting to do that, get to
2:15
Speaker 3: play some craps at the same time, you get to
2:17
Speaker 3: play some golf, it it'll be it'll be a great weekend.
2:20
Speaker 1: So as fans from all around the globe get ready
2:23
Speaker 1: to party on music's honestly one of music's biggest forty
2:26
Speaker 1: eight hours as we take over the Team Obil Arena
2:29
Speaker 1: thanks to Capital One two nights, one stage tr part
2:31
Speaker 1: of this year's lineup. What is Thomas Reetz Vegas checklist?
2:35
Speaker 1: As you're getting ready to go, what are things that
2:37
Speaker 1: you have to be prepared for and things you want
2:39
Speaker 1: to hit when you're there?
2:41
Speaker 3: Man, I gotta play golf. Like golf in Vegas is
2:47
Speaker 3: absolute top notch. I've never played Shadow Creek before. So
2:49
Speaker 3: I'm gonna try to play Shadow Creek at the MGM.
2:52
Speaker 3: Gott gotta go roll some dice with my wife, Like
2:56
Speaker 3: I lose money unless my wife is at the table,
2:58
Speaker 3: if she's like the luckiest human alive.
2:59
Speaker 2: So roll some dice. Gotta eat some good sushi.
3:03
Speaker 3: Uh. There's a place at the Mandalay Bay called Kumi,
3:06
Speaker 3: and it's kind of become like a a tradition for
3:09
Speaker 3: me and my band to go eat at Kumi.
3:12
Speaker 2: But yeah, dude, I love being in Vegas.
3:14
Speaker 4: Man.
3:14
Speaker 3: It's it's it's just there's kind of a never ending
3:16
Speaker 3: list of things to do. I've actually never gotten to
3:18
Speaker 3: see the Spear either. So I'm gonna go at least
3:21
Speaker 3: get my picture in front of the sphere and and uh,
3:24
Speaker 3: yeah dude, it's it's going to be a blast.
3:26
Speaker 4: Hey.
3:26
Speaker 1: So the whole reason it sounds like this list, the
3:28
Speaker 1: whole reason tr committed to the iHeart Radio Music Festival
3:31
Speaker 1: this year is because you.
3:31
Speaker 4: Had Vegas stuff to catch up on. Because it's been
3:34
Speaker 4: a minute.
3:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, side note, Kumi has have you had the
3:40
Speaker 1: tuna pizza?
3:40
Speaker 2: There? No?
3:43
Speaker 3: My favorite one is the pop rock Have you had
3:46
Speaker 3: that one? It's like this sushi with pop.
3:47
Speaker 2: Rocks in it. It's unbelievable.
3:49
Speaker 4: It's so good.
3:50
Speaker 1: Uh when it comes to uh, the iHeart Radio Music
3:53
Speaker 1: Festival and you're building You're a guy who does shows
3:57
Speaker 1: of all sizes around the globe. But when it comes
3:59
Speaker 1: to the iHeart read you a music festival, knowing that
4:01
Speaker 1: you mentioned some people maybe hearing your name and your
4:04
Speaker 1: music for the first time, versus people that are buying
4:07
Speaker 1: a ticket just to see you for sure, how do
4:09
Speaker 1: you put together a set list to make both those
4:11
Speaker 1: people happy?
4:13
Speaker 3: Bangers bangers only like that. I think that's kind of
4:17
Speaker 3: been my motto this year.
4:18
Speaker 4: Man.
4:19
Speaker 3: It's like I kind of have this new hunger inside
4:22
Speaker 3: of me, which I you know, I think kind of
4:23
Speaker 3: started in like twenty fifteen. It's like, you know, back
4:26
Speaker 3: in the day when you had no hits and you're
4:28
Speaker 3: walking out there into a festival where nobody.
4:30
Speaker 2: Knows who you are.
4:30
Speaker 3: It's like, how do you get these people on their feet?
4:33
Speaker 3: How do you get them moving you? How do you
4:34
Speaker 3: get them to want to buy a ticket the next
4:35
Speaker 3: time you come to town?
4:36
Speaker 2: You know?
4:37
Speaker 3: So I think for this in particular thing. You know,
4:39
Speaker 3: I've been doing this for fifteen years now, which is crazy.
4:42
Speaker 3: So I'm sure at least most of the people in
4:44
Speaker 3: that room have heard us song or two of mine.
4:46
Speaker 3: But to be able to like give them some some
4:48
Speaker 3: of my new record and also give them some hits,
4:50
Speaker 3: I think it'll be a blast. Hopefully I can convince
4:53
Speaker 3: du Aalipa to come up there and sing one with
4:54
Speaker 3: me too, that that wouldn't suck. But I think you
4:58
Speaker 3: just got to You got to just give them for
5:00
Speaker 3: For me and my band, we just want to bring
5:01
Speaker 3: as much energy as possible and get people moving.
5:04
Speaker 1: So let's say you get on a call with Ihier
5:08
Speaker 1: Rate and they're like, hey, tr you're gonna help us
5:10
Speaker 1: sell tickets this year. Tell people why they can't miss
5:13
Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio Music Festival.
5:15
Speaker 3: Dude, I just don't know where you're gonna get this many,
5:19
Speaker 3: this many stars like in this. And I'm not even
5:21
Speaker 3: calling myself that, I'm just saying, like with the entire lineup, Like,
5:24
Speaker 3: I don't know there's many places where you're gonna get
5:25
Speaker 3: a two day festival of this many types of music
5:29
Speaker 3: packed in forty eight hours. So I think if you're
5:32
Speaker 3: just like a music lover in general, like I would
5:36
Speaker 3: if this were me, and I lived in Vegas and
5:37
Speaker 3: I was just a fan, or if I didn't live
5:39
Speaker 3: in Vegas and I saw this happening, I would be like,
5:41
Speaker 3: that's that's a two day experience that I need to
5:43
Speaker 3: go see because I feel like my ears are just
5:45
Speaker 3: gonna be open to all kinds of different sounds and
5:47
Speaker 3: people and and uh yeah, they're just two days of
5:50
Speaker 3: like music from all all over the all over the globe.
5:53
Speaker 1: So plus, if you buy your tickets now, Sushi's on
5:56
Speaker 1: tr and this crew.
5:58
Speaker 2: Uh maximum two people though, yeah you.
6:01
Speaker 1: Go first two people that buy now, Ope it's sold out.
6:05
Speaker 1: You are getting ready to put out a brand new
6:07
Speaker 1: album at this point, is it still an exciting I
6:11
Speaker 1: don't want to say it's not an exciting process, but
6:13
Speaker 1: like putting out your first album or two versus where
6:16
Speaker 1: you are now, probably way different feeling pressure.
6:19
Speaker 3: Wise, right, It's it is, But it's not like it's
6:23
Speaker 3: not in the fact that like there's so many people
6:25
Speaker 3: out there that know who I am and and our
6:27
Speaker 3: fans who are going are going to listen to the
6:30
Speaker 3: music because they're they're a fan of me and a
6:31
Speaker 3: fan of my family. But I don't know, like I
6:34
Speaker 3: said earlier, I've got a different drive today. Like, you know,
6:36
Speaker 3: I think over the last five years I have I've
6:39
Speaker 3: been excited, but I've also just been so dag im busy,
6:44
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So I think when I
6:45
Speaker 3: go on the road and do shows, I come home
6:48
Speaker 3: and I'm immediately into you know, my dad and husband duties,
6:52
Speaker 3: and so there hasn't been a really big like work
6:55
Speaker 3: life balance, if you will. And so now that my
6:57
Speaker 3: kids a little bit older, dude, like I get to
6:59
Speaker 3: come home and get to actually play with my kids
7:01
Speaker 3: and hang out with my kids, and go to dinner
7:03
Speaker 3: with my kids, and you know, see movies with my kids,
7:05
Speaker 3: and so I have more time to kind of like
7:08
Speaker 3: relax and like kind of rejuvenate.
7:10
Speaker 2: And so this record process was no different.
7:12
Speaker 4: Dude.
7:13
Speaker 3: It's kind of the most time I've ever had to
7:14
Speaker 3: make a record, and honestly the most fun I've ever
7:17
Speaker 3: had making a record because I feel like there was
7:18
Speaker 3: just no pressure and so me and my producers man
7:21
Speaker 3: just kind of you know, would go on writing retreats
7:23
Speaker 3: and get in the studio and just feel like what
7:26
Speaker 3: feels fun to us, like what brings joy to our
7:28
Speaker 3: souls and let's put that on the record. You know
7:31
Speaker 3: my band and I is motto every time we walk
7:32
Speaker 3: out on stage is like, how do we bring joy
7:34
Speaker 3: to the people tonight?
7:35
Speaker 2: Because that is our job?
7:36
Speaker 3: And I've never felt that so deep in my core
7:39
Speaker 3: like I do this year. So I think the next
7:42
Speaker 3: five years of my career are going to be some
7:43
Speaker 3: of the most fun that I've ever gotten to have.
7:46
Speaker 1: This is your seventh studio album, So let's say we
7:49
Speaker 1: hop in a time machine the I'm not gonna use
7:53
Speaker 1: age or years as a reference, but yeah, the Thomas
7:56
Speaker 1: rhet we have today who is wiser and more experienced.
7:59
Speaker 1: What would you go back and tell that young kid
8:02
Speaker 1: putting on his first album, like, Hey, you're worried about this,
8:04
Speaker 1: this and this, and I promise you it does not matter.
8:08
Speaker 2: Man.
8:09
Speaker 3: I think I've always been a person that really cares about,
8:12
Speaker 3: you know, what other people think, you know, like whether
8:16
Speaker 3: that's somebody in the crowd that's having a miserable time
8:20
Speaker 3: or you know, your random critic on social media. It's
8:24
Speaker 3: always gotten really under my skin. And I think when
8:27
Speaker 3: I turned thirty, I was just like, why have I
8:30
Speaker 3: wasted so much energy on that? You know, because I
8:32
Speaker 3: feel like I spent from twenty four to thirty, just
8:34
Speaker 3: like immediately after a show, just scrolling, just trying to
8:38
Speaker 3: find the worst comments about my show or the worst
8:42
Speaker 3: comments about my music, And every now and then I'll
8:44
Speaker 3: have something clever to say back to somebody.
8:46
Speaker 2: But I think, like, as.
8:47
Speaker 3: A thirty four year old dude, I'm like, I got
8:49
Speaker 3: I got bigger fish to fry than worrying about what
8:52
Speaker 3: somebody thinks about me or not liking a song. And
8:55
Speaker 3: so I think if I could go back into my
8:56
Speaker 3: twenty four year old body, I would just ask that
8:58
Speaker 3: guy to just relax. Just go dude, you're making music
9:01
Speaker 3: for a living, like freaking enjoy it.
9:03
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
9:05
Speaker 1: What did you learn from that first album all the
9:07
Speaker 1: way up to now that helps you be more confident
9:11
Speaker 1: in the product you're about to put out? The album
9:14
Speaker 1: is about a woman coming out in August.
9:15
Speaker 2: Here.
9:17
Speaker 3: What makes more confident? I think, just so many years
9:22
Speaker 3: under my belt, you know what I mean. It's not
9:25
Speaker 3: a huge like guessing game anymore. Like I know what
9:29
Speaker 3: my lane is, and I know which ways I can
9:31
Speaker 3: stretch and which ways I can push. And I think
9:35
Speaker 3: that when I have pushed, I've seen it be you know,
9:38
Speaker 3: accepted by you know, for sure of my fans. And
9:40
Speaker 3: so a lot of this record do was kind of
9:43
Speaker 3: getting back to like what got me here in the
9:45
Speaker 3: first place, and that was just kind of taking some
9:47
Speaker 3: chances and you know, trying some I always love to
9:50
Speaker 3: try things I've never done before. Like every record, I
9:53
Speaker 3: feel like all I start always starts off with a
9:55
Speaker 3: song that is just sonically like pushing the boundary for
9:58
Speaker 3: what I've done in the past. And and I think, man,
10:00
Speaker 3: for me, like I just love to have fun. Like
10:02
Speaker 3: if you've been to one of my shows, it's they're
10:05
Speaker 3: just joyful, you know what I mean.
10:06
Speaker 2: There's no other way I can say that.
10:07
Speaker 3: And so if I can make joyful music to keep
10:10
Speaker 3: adding to the joy of our show, then I feel
10:12
Speaker 3: like my mission has been accomplished.
10:15
Speaker 1: When you look at the fourteen songs you put on here,
10:17
Speaker 1: which is a weird number to me because I feel
10:20
Speaker 1: like it's either a thousand songs on an album or
10:24
Speaker 1: it's like six yeah, or like six to eleven. So
10:28
Speaker 1: why did fourteen make sense for you? Because if I
10:31
Speaker 1: had to guess, you probably added a couple of spots
10:35
Speaker 1: I did.
10:37
Speaker 3: Okay, you know, I think there was a part of
10:39
Speaker 3: me that kind of wanted to keep up, you know,
10:42
Speaker 3: with the trend of you know, Morgan putting thirty six
10:46
Speaker 3: songs on a record, Luke putting thirty songs on a record.
10:49
Speaker 3: And I think that's great for those guys because they
10:52
Speaker 3: stream their faces off. But for me, like I grew
10:54
Speaker 3: up in a in a radio generation, you know what
10:57
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like the radio made me kind of who
10:58
Speaker 3: I am today. And so my producer and I sort
11:02
Speaker 3: of played this game along the way where he was like, Hey,
11:05
Speaker 3: we have fifty songs here. We're not putting fifty songs out,
11:09
Speaker 3: so let's make it. Let's make a ten song album.
11:12
Speaker 3: And I was like that's impossible, and he was like,
11:13
Speaker 3: I know, but just for the sake of this game,
11:16
Speaker 3: let's just keep making a new ten song record every week.
11:18
Speaker 3: Let's take songs off, put songs on, and we finally
11:22
Speaker 3: landed on ten. I was just like, dude, I can't
11:24
Speaker 3: put ten songs on a record. This is just not
11:26
Speaker 3: like there's three. There's at least three more that I
11:28
Speaker 3: have to have on here. And do we just live
11:31
Speaker 3: in a generation where there's like five thousand songs that
11:35
Speaker 3: come out every dag on Friday, you know what I mean?
11:38
Speaker 2: And even for me as.
11:39
Speaker 3: A music lover, when I when I get on my
11:40
Speaker 3: phone and I'm like, oh, so and So's got a
11:43
Speaker 3: new EP and so and So's got like I don't.
11:45
Speaker 3: I don't even have the capacity to listen to all
11:48
Speaker 3: the new music that I want to listen to. And
11:49
Speaker 3: so for me, I was like, man in a world
11:51
Speaker 3: full of content, content, content, song song songs like, how
11:56
Speaker 3: do we make a record that looks like when you
11:58
Speaker 3: look at it on your phone?
11:59
Speaker 2: How does it? How does it look the most digestible?
12:02
Speaker 2: I guess?
12:03
Speaker 3: And fourteen seem pretty digestible to me. So that's kind
12:07
Speaker 3: of how we landed on that.
12:08
Speaker 1: So I obviously have to ask the obvious question. You
12:11
Speaker 1: added some spots, what songs had to make? Obviously it
12:15
Speaker 1: was done right, so these had to be there, But
12:17
Speaker 1: what are the ones that you're like, this album done
12:19
Speaker 1: unless it includes you know, this, this, this.
12:24
Speaker 3: Well, So about three weeks before the record had to
12:27
Speaker 3: be turned in, I still couldn't even land on fourteen.
12:29
Speaker 2: I landed on like nineteen, and my.
12:32
Speaker 3: Producer was like, dude, if you will just like take
12:36
Speaker 3: six of these and hold on to them. Then after
12:39
Speaker 3: your album is done and run its course, you got
12:42
Speaker 3: like six more heaters to be able to put out
12:45
Speaker 3: there rather than trying to like scramble to just put
12:50
Speaker 3: a new song out there. So that was the hardest
12:52
Speaker 3: part to me. So like, I kept six back that
12:54
Speaker 3: I wanted on the record to be able to drop them,
12:56
Speaker 3: you know, strategically after the album is done. But there
13:00
Speaker 3: were two songs in particular that, you know, because it
13:02
Speaker 3: was going to be a twelve song record, and so
13:04
Speaker 3: I added this song called what Could Go Right? And
13:06
Speaker 3: I added this song called Boots because the record just
13:08
Speaker 3: didn't seem round it out to me without those two.
13:11
Speaker 3: So yeah, man, my goal is like over the next
13:14
Speaker 3: two years to not go six months without something new
13:18
Speaker 3: so that I can continue to do my twenty twenty
13:21
Speaker 3: five and twenty twenty six tour with momentum. So this
13:26
Speaker 3: is the most like, you know, I don't even know
13:28
Speaker 3: what I'm doing. I'm just listening to people smarter than
13:31
Speaker 3: me and all hoping that it translates.
13:33
Speaker 1: So that leads into what I want to ask next. Dude,
13:36
Speaker 1: you have made money, you have sold out shows, You've
13:40
Speaker 1: put out successful albums. You got a stack of plaques,
13:43
Speaker 1: you know, with number one and sales success. So when
13:47
Speaker 1: you say, hey, here's my nineteen, is any part of
13:51
Speaker 1: you when you get pushed back from somebody. I mean,
13:54
Speaker 1: you're the boss at the end of the day, right
13:55
Speaker 1: or so what makes you not go no, this is
13:58
Speaker 1: what I want to do. So this is what we're
13:59
Speaker 1: going to do.
14:01
Speaker 2: Man.
14:02
Speaker 3: I think working with this guy, Julian Benetta, I've been
14:06
Speaker 3: friends with him for a long time. But he he
14:08
Speaker 3: produced like all the One Direction albums. He just produced
14:13
Speaker 3: Sabrina Carpenter's new record. He just produced Teddy Swims's new record,
14:16
Speaker 3: and so his pulse I think, for like global music
14:22
Speaker 3: is just better than mine. To be honest with you,
14:26
Speaker 3: and we have this thing that we do called the
14:28
Speaker 3: Firing Squad, which me and him and like another guy
14:30
Speaker 3: will just sit in a room and literally just bash
14:33
Speaker 3: each other and we'll just play.
14:35
Speaker 2: We'll just we'll dig into our phone.
14:37
Speaker 3: We'll be like, check this song out and then like
14:38
Speaker 3: Julian and know the psota and just be like you
14:41
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. Like it's the most honest musical
14:44
Speaker 3: conversation that we can have. And I think when you
14:48
Speaker 3: don't have those type of people in your life and
14:51
Speaker 3: you only have yes people in your life, then at
14:54
Speaker 3: the end of the day, you're only doing what you
14:56
Speaker 3: want to do and you're not listening to like anyone else,
14:58
Speaker 3: you know. So me and Julian went back and forth,
15:01
Speaker 3: and me and Dan Huff went back and forth and
15:02
Speaker 3: million times on the number of this album, the production
15:05
Speaker 3: of songs, there were so many nights where Julian was like, dude,
15:08
Speaker 3: the second verse of whatever is just not right. We
15:10
Speaker 3: got to come back in and change it. I'm like, dude,
15:12
Speaker 3: it's perfect. He's like, trust me, we should change it.
15:14
Speaker 3: And we get back in there, spend six hours writing
15:17
Speaker 3: against the new second verse, and all of a sudden
15:19
Speaker 3: you're like, oh, that song will never be the same again,
15:22
Speaker 3: because that second verse was so worth it. And so
15:24
Speaker 3: I've never really worked like that. It's always just been like, oh,
15:27
Speaker 3: that's the record, it's finished. And in this go around, man,
15:30
Speaker 3: the record was sort of just like never finished until
15:32
Speaker 3: it finally was. And so it's been the most frustrating
15:36
Speaker 3: but also challenging project that I've ever made. And I
15:39
Speaker 3: think doing this for fifteen years, dude, like if I'm
15:42
Speaker 3: not challenged anymore, Like, what's the point of doing it.
15:45
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
15:47
Speaker 3: This record like really made me like fall refall in
15:51
Speaker 3: love with music again. And I've got I've got this
15:53
Speaker 3: hunger inside of me that just just ready to go.
15:56
Speaker 3: So I don't know, dude, I'm in a different headspace
15:59
Speaker 3: today than I was, you know, eighteen years ago.
16:02
Speaker 1: The new album comes out on the twenty third of August,
16:05
Speaker 1: called About a Woman. I do want to ask you
16:07
Speaker 1: brought up that the challenges that you had going into
16:11
Speaker 1: this album. We caught up with Keith Thurman, I want
16:14
Speaker 1: to say, like six seven months ago. He's another guy
16:16
Speaker 1: that's going to be at the iHeartRadio Music Festival, and
16:18
Speaker 1: he said he had a full album done, yeah, and
16:21
Speaker 1: he turned it into the label. They brought him in
16:24
Speaker 1: to play it for everybody, and he watched reactions around
16:27
Speaker 1: the room and he goes just saying it. So we
16:30
Speaker 1: pulled like two or three albums off. There are two
16:32
Speaker 1: or three songs off there, junks the rest of it,
16:34
Speaker 1: and moved on.
16:35
Speaker 4: And he said he was honestly.
16:37
Speaker 1: Probably the hardest thing of his entire career because he
16:40
Speaker 1: felt like he wasted.
16:42
Speaker 4: So obviously you don't feel that way.
16:44
Speaker 1: This project is coming out to twenty third, everyone's gonna
16:46
Speaker 1: be able to wrap their arms around the fourteen songs.
16:48
Speaker 1: But is there a time Maybe recently now, because you're
16:51
Speaker 1: more confident than you were at the beginning, where like
16:54
Speaker 1: you had to take something that you were like passionate
16:56
Speaker 1: about you thought was done good to go, and once
16:58
Speaker 1: you kind of let other people water your plans, you realize, now,
17:02
Speaker 1: this ain't it, dude.
17:04
Speaker 3: So many times, I mean, there were there were songs
17:08
Speaker 3: on this record that obviously aren't on this record anymore,
17:10
Speaker 3: that I was so sure of, you know what I mean,
17:13
Speaker 3: And then I would get the band on the bus
17:16
Speaker 3: one night and I'd be like, yo, check this song
17:17
Speaker 3: out we wrote last week, and you're kind of seeing
17:20
Speaker 3: some head bobbing and you're seeing the thing and you finish,
17:22
Speaker 3: and everybody's like, that's cool man, And I'm like, I
17:24
Speaker 3: don't want it to be just cool man.
17:26
Speaker 2: I want it. I want it.
17:27
Speaker 3: I want you to either hate it so bad that
17:29
Speaker 3: you have to tell me how bad you hate it,
17:32
Speaker 3: or I want it to be the favorite, your favorite
17:35
Speaker 3: Thomas Rhett song you've ever heard. Life's too short to
17:39
Speaker 3: put out, you know, mediocre songs to me and it's like,
17:43
Speaker 3: and it's fine if you hate it, but I either
17:45
Speaker 3: want you to hate it or I want you to
17:46
Speaker 3: love it. I think fine fine does not get anybody
17:50
Speaker 3: anywhere anymore. And so there were definitely songs where I
17:54
Speaker 3: was like so sure of this, because like, here's the.
17:56
Speaker 2: Thing that fans will never have.
17:58
Speaker 3: Fans will never have that moment in the writing room
18:02
Speaker 3: of like finally landing on the hook of a chorus
18:05
Speaker 3: or like finally finding that melody that works for a
18:08
Speaker 3: second verse. That's a feeling that only you and the
18:12
Speaker 3: songwriters will ever have, and you can only hope that
18:15
Speaker 3: when that song comes out, the fans feel some kind
18:17
Speaker 3: of way that even comes close to matching that. So
18:21
Speaker 3: when you're playing songs for other people, you're thinking that
18:23
Speaker 3: they experienced the same feeling that you did while you
18:26
Speaker 3: were writing it. But in reality, they had a bad
18:30
Speaker 3: Monday and a bad Tuesday and they're just hearing a
18:32
Speaker 3: random song on a Wednesday and they go, it doesn't
18:34
Speaker 3: really hit me, bro, And you're like why, Like you
18:37
Speaker 3: don't understand what we just did. You know what I'm saying,
18:41
Speaker 3: And I think that's why I'm.
18:42
Speaker 2: Making records is so hard, because art is subjective.
18:45
Speaker 3: Like when you you know, if you're a painter and
18:48
Speaker 3: you spend six months on a mural and then you
18:50
Speaker 3: hang it up on the side of the road and
18:52
Speaker 3: somebody goes, that's terrible. That's they're They're entitled to that opinion,
18:57
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. But it doesn't it shouldn't
18:59
Speaker 3: make you feel like it sucks because you were the
19:02
Speaker 3: one that had the time to dive into that painting.
19:06
Speaker 3: And it's the same with a song, dude. You spend
19:08
Speaker 3: three weeks writing a song and you put it out
19:10
Speaker 3: to the world. It is no longer up to you
19:13
Speaker 3: like it is now up to the masses to decide
19:15
Speaker 3: if they like it or not. That's what makes making
19:17
Speaker 3: music so awesome and so frustrating, because not everybody likes
19:22
Speaker 3: the same thing. You just kind of hope that a
19:24
Speaker 3: lot of people end up liking what you put out.
19:26
Speaker 3: So that was a really long way of answering your question.
19:29
Speaker 1: Last thing I want to ask you, and I apologize,
19:31
Speaker 1: I'm keeping you a couple of minutes later than I
19:32
Speaker 1: told you I would. Good, So it's and this song
19:38
Speaker 1: can be the same for you. But out of the
19:41
Speaker 1: new album, the New Fourteenth songs, What was the toughest,
19:44
Speaker 1: what song gave you the most difficulty, what song kind
19:47
Speaker 1: of wrote itself, and which one is your heart tied
19:50
Speaker 1: closest to.
19:54
Speaker 3: I think my heart is tied closest to a song
19:56
Speaker 3: called what Could Go Right for many reasons, but it
20:00
Speaker 3: is like a verbatim story of the night that I
20:04
Speaker 3: kind of told my wife that I was in love
20:06
Speaker 3: with her. And I've tried to write that song a
20:09
Speaker 3: million different ways and it just never really worked. And
20:11
Speaker 3: it just happened that this group I was with, like
20:13
Speaker 3: we'd really hit the nail on the head on that one.
20:15
Speaker 3: So I think my heart was most attached to what
20:18
Speaker 3: Could Go Right? And then, second of all, on that
20:20
Speaker 3: same song probably the most difficult because the way that
20:24
Speaker 3: the guy I wrote it with sang the demo I
20:26
Speaker 3: had a really hard time copying because I don't have
20:29
Speaker 3: a great falsett of voice and there was a lot
20:31
Speaker 3: of falsett up movements in the chorus that my producer
20:35
Speaker 3: was like, you should just sing it full of voice,
20:36
Speaker 3: and I was like, I don't know that I can
20:37
Speaker 3: sing that high. So we spent like four days in
20:39
Speaker 3: the studio trying to figure out which version of this
20:41
Speaker 3: and finally landed on one. So I think that was
20:44
Speaker 3: probably the toughest one to sing vocally.
20:46
Speaker 2: And then what was your third question?
20:48
Speaker 1: It was what song wrote itself? Like once you sat down,
20:52
Speaker 1: it just it fell into place, minimal effort.
20:55
Speaker 2: I think the song that wrote itself would be the
20:57
Speaker 2: last track on the record. It's called I Can Spend
20:58
Speaker 2: Forever Loving You.
21:00
Speaker 3: And it was actually the first time that I've ever
21:02
Speaker 3: written with Ernest, And it was like a random, random
21:06
Speaker 3: day in Nashville and me and Ernest, right, let's write
21:08
Speaker 3: something that we think could be in a Yellowstone soundtrack,
21:12
Speaker 3: and Ernest starts just playing this guitar lick and literally
21:16
Speaker 3: the lines just kept falling in place, and before we
21:19
Speaker 3: knew it, like forty five minutes later, the song was
21:21
Speaker 3: done and the demo was done. That hardly ever happens,
21:24
Speaker 3: but Ernest is such a great freestyler that like, if
21:29
Speaker 3: you're lost, you just tell Ernest to start singing and
21:31
Speaker 3: start saying things, and you're gonna find something that that's amazing.
21:34
Speaker 4: So that's so awesome. Man, can't wait for the new album.
21:37
Speaker 1: I apologize it took you a little bit longer, but
21:40
Speaker 1: we can't wait to see it. Can't wait to see
21:42
Speaker 1: in Vegas, dude, and you're on vacation right now.
21:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm at the beach with the with the fan.
21:46
Speaker 1: So you're like, yeah, so if we could, Like, I'm.
21:50
Speaker 4: Trying to get to that break.
21:52
Speaker 2: It's a good break for me.
21:53
Speaker 1: So dude, it's always great to catch up with you. Man,
21:56
Speaker 1: I think the world is so thanks for hanging out, brother.
21:58
Speaker 4: I appreciate it.
21:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks so much. To have a good one.
22:00
Speaker 4: You two see you soon. One see