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How to Pick Heisman Winner, Why Indiana + Alabama Are Beefing + USC Chances, Top 10 & More · Unafraid Show with George Wrighster

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show.
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Speaker 2: One of the questions that I get asked the most, George,
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Speaker 2: you're a Heisman voter, who's gonna win the Heisman Trophy
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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty Sison, Let me.
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Speaker 1: Explain that to you.
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Speaker 2: There is a rivalry now between Alabama and Indiana. Now,
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Speaker 2: the rivalry started with one game and one very funny
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Speaker 2: social media clip. You're gonna have to see this Taylor Green.
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Speaker 2: Arkansas quarterback John Gruten told Is due to his face,
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Speaker 2: that he should be a wide receiver, but Green's response
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Speaker 2: was legendary. Former Missouri captain TJ. Mo he believes that
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Speaker 2: the transfer portal is the reason why he can't watch
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Speaker 2: college sports anymore. USC head coach Lincoln Ryley he believes
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Speaker 2: that their window for a championship is open? Is it?
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Speaker 2: And did his top ten time today? And we are
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Speaker 2: going to do a top ten Heisman draft for the
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Speaker 2: last ten years with a caveat surrounding it.
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Speaker 1: That is going to make it a lot of fun.
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Speaker 1: Go ahead and do it right now. We're gonna start
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Speaker 1: out where we usually do.
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Speaker 2: The best thing that I saw today and this made
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Speaker 2: me smile. I think I got to turn the sound
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Speaker 2: off because I don't want to get demonetized for this music.
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Speaker 1: Look at look at look at it, Grandma, and look
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Speaker 1: at homeboy right here. Oh oh get it.
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Speaker 2: Cream on the inside, cream on the outside. This is
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Speaker 2: what life is supposed to be. People from you know,
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Speaker 2: like different teams, supporting different teams, showing up at a
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Speaker 2: place just having a good old time. This is absolutely
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Speaker 2: amazing and it is honestly the best thing I saw today.
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Speaker 1: And her dancing bro she getting it yo.
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Speaker 2: This Indiana Alabama ribbery is absolutely going crazy and I
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Speaker 2: love it.
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Speaker 1: This is not a thing.
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Speaker 2: Indiana literally had no football life outside of Antoine Randelel
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Speaker 2: and some NFL players that they've put out in terms
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Speaker 2: of a program, and now they are in a beef
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Speaker 2: with Alabama after winning the national championship because they beat
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Speaker 2: the hell out of Alabama thirty eight to three in
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Speaker 2: the Rose Bowl. If they got beat up by Auburn
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Speaker 2: or they got beat up by Oklahoma, they'd be like, okay, cool,
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Speaker 2: a respectable program beat us. But Indiana, oh Lord, have mercy.
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Speaker 2: So you had ty Simpson, who's going into the draft.
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Speaker 2: He was on a podcast with some other players.
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Speaker 1: I didn't believe that Ty Simpson actually.
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Speaker 2: Said anything bad because in covering Indiana last season, if
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Speaker 2: you go back and you watch any of the game
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Speaker 2: previews that I did hear on on a FRAID show,
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Speaker 2: I explicitly said Indiana does not do anything fancy. They
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Speaker 2: stay in base defense the majority of the game. They're
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Speaker 2: very self going to play man coverage. You know what
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Speaker 2: they're gonna do. For the most part. It's just trying
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Speaker 2: to figure out the assimilated blitzes where pressure.
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Speaker 1: Is coming from. It's it's tricky, but it's very very simple.
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Speaker 2: It's a matrix at the same time because they put
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Speaker 2: everybody that they played in an absolute headlock. So Ty Simpson,
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Speaker 2: who had, you know, his worst game probably of his
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Speaker 2: starting career that day, was talking about it and here's
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Speaker 2: what he had to say.
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Speaker 1: Where they is like good of a team as advertised.
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Speaker 1: I mean they won, So I wasn't surprised when they won.
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Speaker 3: After they beat us, we lost to both teams.
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Speaker 4: That were in the NATTY, so I thought they were
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Speaker 4: gonna win that game against Miami.
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Speaker 1: I didn't know how it was gonna go against y'all.
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Speaker 3: From my point of view, right, Like, I was like,
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Speaker 3: they don't do much Like I was like, they do
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Speaker 3: the same thing for every dawn, And so when I
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Speaker 3: got the ball, I knew exactly what was gonna happen.
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Speaker 3: They just didn't mess up.
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Speaker 2: Bro.
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Speaker 3: They were in the exact same spot they were supposed
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Speaker 3: to be, and they were so well coached.
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Speaker 1: It was so much.
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Speaker 3: Different than the NDC.
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Speaker 1: You got.
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Speaker 3: You know, they'll they'll play man, they'll do these unorthodout
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Speaker 3: and coverages, you know, because it's just like how it is.
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Speaker 3: That game was it was crazy to me. Of course
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Speaker 3: I got hurt, so it was a that was a bummer,
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Speaker 3: But I just I knew what they were gonna do,
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Speaker 3: and you know, we couldn't really run the ball.
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Speaker 2: We didn't really you know, throw.
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Speaker 3: It just was a it was so crazy to me
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Speaker 3: how it happened.
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Speaker 2: So first thing is Alabama couldn't run the ball all
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Speaker 2: football season. That's first thing.
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Speaker 1: But this is the truth is that.
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Speaker 2: Indiana and Brian Taynes their defensive coordinator and Cursing Neetty
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Speaker 2: their head coach, they keep things simple. The same is
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Speaker 2: true of them on offense. You know what they're gonna do,
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Speaker 2: you just can't stop it. They were just so perfect,
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Speaker 2: so efficient, so prepared for what everybody was going to do,
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Speaker 2: and they made you adjust to them, not them adjust
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Speaker 2: to you. It feels a lot like Chip Kelly to
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Speaker 2: me at at Oregon, where it took a long time
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Speaker 2: for people to be able to catch up to what
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Speaker 2: they were doing, but then once they finally did, there
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Speaker 2: are ways to stop it. But coaches, they're spending they're
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Speaker 2: racking their brains this offseason trying to figure out times
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Speaker 2: how to do it. But that clip alone that started
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Speaker 2: a social media war, an absolute war, that was then
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Speaker 2: responded to by Brian Haynes, and he said, all adorable.
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Speaker 2: We also saw everything that they were doing on every
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Speaker 2: single snap. It's just that we exploited those cues and
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Speaker 2: didn't get frozen and crushed by them. What I didn't
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Speaker 2: even think that that was a shot by ty Simpson
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Speaker 2: or by anybody else on that podcast saying that Indiana
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Speaker 2: keeps it super simple. That's actually a badge of honor.
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Speaker 2: But how Briant Haines took it, He took it like
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Speaker 2: ty Simpson was Mike Tyson after getting knocked out by
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Speaker 2: Buster Douglass saying, you know, he beat me, but he
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Speaker 2: didn't do anything special. He ate that great. So Brian
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Speaker 2: haynes response off the top rope was absolutely legendary.
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Speaker 1: It was legendary.
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Speaker 2: He went on again and he said, because Alabama fans
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Speaker 2: were coming at his neck like they were absolutely after him.
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Speaker 2: They were going in, oh, you suck, y'all can't do anything,
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Speaker 2: third rate program, all of this stuff.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but they're national champions.
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Speaker 2: And then Brian Haynes responds, that's all it took to
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Speaker 2: break your entire fan base. Wow, maybe I should have
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Speaker 2: just said, boo, no apologies, no compliments, grow up, folks.
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Speaker 2: He had a bad take, and I just said the
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Speaker 2: painful truth. Bounce back better. I love that Indiana is unapologetic.
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Speaker 2: Their head coach Kurt Signetti is unapologetic.
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Speaker 1: Google me.
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Speaker 2: Now, we'll tell Alabama fans this, and you guys can
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Speaker 2: mark my words if this happens, if things don't work
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Speaker 2: out with Kaylin de boor in Alabama, I can assure
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Speaker 2: you that Alabama fans.
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Speaker 1: Will want Brian Haynes.
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Speaker 2: They are going to be kicking the door down trying
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Speaker 2: to get Brian Haynes.
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Speaker 1: But it's Alabama.
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Speaker 2: Of course, some people are gonna want a big name,
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Speaker 2: but they're gonna be some people around there.
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Speaker 1: They're gonna be.
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Speaker 2: Like, no, no, give us Brian Haynes, give us that
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Speaker 2: level of defense. That's what we love at Alabama. This
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Speaker 2: even went deeper. Then you had Alabama's strength coach coach
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Speaker 2: Daniel Johnson.
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Speaker 1: We played football, not Internet.
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Speaker 2: That's like the Dad Letting. We played for wins and
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Speaker 2: they play for clicks thing. And then to top it
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Speaker 2: all off, it went even further. Alabama's transferred Aiden Scharrell,
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Speaker 2: one of the top bigs in the portal, has then
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Speaker 2: committed to Indiana. So not only did Alabama get their
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Speaker 2: face kicked in by Indiana in football, then they're winning
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Speaker 2: the social media Award. Now they're taking your six to
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Speaker 2: ten basketball recruits too. The funniest thing about this whole thing.
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Speaker 2: Rivalries in sports are typically built through decades. It usually
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Speaker 2: takes ten, twenty years of back and forth. But we
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Speaker 2: got a rivalry built between Indiana and Alabama fans with
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Speaker 2: one game, with one game and one social media post.
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Speaker 2: And if I can't explain to anybody why that makes
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Speaker 2: college football the greatest thing in the country, the greatest
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Speaker 2: sport in the world. I don't know what to explain
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Speaker 2: it to you, because this story all by itself explains
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Speaker 2: to you the greatness of college football fans, the greatness
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Speaker 2: of college football rivalries.
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Speaker 1: And the pride of it all.
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Speaker 2: And this is exactly why we need parody in college football,
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Speaker 2: because Indiana winning was one of the greatest things to
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Speaker 2: happen to college football. Because Indiana's don't win. They're not
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Speaker 2: a blue blood. They weren't even an emerging blue blood.
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Speaker 2: It would be different if Oregon one. Then everybody would
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Speaker 2: be like, Okay, well we could see that coming. We
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Speaker 2: need a world where Rutgers can win a national championship,
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Speaker 2: where Vanderbilt can kick Alabama's as for a couple of years,
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Speaker 2: where you can have teams win that aren't traditional powers.
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Speaker 1: That's when college football will reach its peak.
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Speaker 2: Now, I want to talk about Taylor Green, Arkansas quarterback,
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Speaker 2: who is a phenomenal athlete. He's not a good athlete,
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Speaker 2: he's phenomenal. He ran four to three at the combine,
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Speaker 2: jumped over forty inches broad jump was fantastic. There's been
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Speaker 2: a long time where coaches didn't know what to do
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Speaker 2: with their athletes and didn't think that they could play
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Speaker 2: quarterback because they're like, this is such a great athlete,
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Speaker 2: we got to get the ball in his hands. And
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Speaker 2: then you have some people figure out, oh wait, no, no,
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Speaker 2: let me put the ball in my best athlete's hands
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Speaker 2: because he touches it every single time. So John Gruden
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Speaker 2: sat there and told this kid to his face that
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Speaker 2: he should switch to wide receiver, and Taylor Green wasn't
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Speaker 2: here for any of it, and I loved it.
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Speaker 1: Four three six.
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Speaker 4: I got to ask you this because I've heard you
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Speaker 4: get pissed off when people say what about playing other positions?
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Speaker 1: As you don't bring that up to Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Well, hell, I'm an offensive coach and I've studied offensive
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Speaker 4: players my whole life. Yeah, and I ain't never seen it.
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Speaker 4: The guy six six two thirty that run four three six?
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Speaker 4: Is that a forty three and a half is vertical?
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Speaker 2: Yes?
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Speaker 4: Sorry, And that's an eleven foot two broad Jones, Yes, sir.
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Speaker 4: That's never been done in the history of the combine
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Speaker 4: by any quarterbacks, not Vic, not Lamar, not anybody. And
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Speaker 4: the only guy has these measurables is a guy named Megatron.
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Speaker 1: You ever heard of this guy? Oh definitely?
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Speaker 4: So what if I said, hey, man, I really have
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Speaker 4: a vision, pretty good offensive coach, got a hell of
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Speaker 4: a quarterback. We can really use a Calvin Johnson. Would
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Speaker 4: you be interested in and being a wide out? I mean,
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Speaker 4: you know Matt Jones, right, yeah.
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Speaker 2: My former teammate, Matt Jones, who was converted, had righted
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Speaker 2: four to three at the combine and he went to
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Speaker 2: the league and it figured out real quick that yes,
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Speaker 2: those measurables are really good, but those don't necessarily translate
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Speaker 2: into being a good NFL wide receiver. Because you know
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Speaker 2: why Calvin Johnson was so good because he was doing
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Speaker 2: it for ten years before he got to the NFL.
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Speaker 2: Just switching somebody over last minute, it doesn't work the
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Speaker 2: same way.
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Speaker 4: He played quarterback at Arkansas, he did. And what did
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Speaker 4: he get drafted by the Jaguars in the first round?
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Speaker 1: What did Jacksonville do to his ass receiver? Would you
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Speaker 1: do it?
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Speaker 3: No?
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Speaker 1: I'm a quarterback? What if I beg you? Nah? I
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Speaker 1: know what I am. I got my belief in myself.
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Speaker 2: I love that because the kid knows who he is,
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Speaker 2: believes it in his core. Because if you don't have
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Speaker 2: belief in yourself, no nobody else is going to be
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Speaker 2: able to buy it. Either, nobody who's done anything great
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Speaker 2: in life has done anything great being realistic, and he's been.
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Speaker 1: A good college quarterback.
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Speaker 2: He's done some really nice things, and he can develop
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Speaker 2: into the NFL into a good quarterback potentially.
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that he'll go be the Gold or
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Speaker 1: he'll be a starter or.
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Speaker 2: Anything like that, but there's no guarantee for success with
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Speaker 2: him changing positions.
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Speaker 1: Either.
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Speaker 2: He knows this position and if you put him in
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Speaker 2: the right situation, let him develop, he might turn into
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Speaker 2: something absolutely special. This is the same John Gruden that
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Speaker 2: got up there stamping for Oh my god, Johnny Manziel,
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Speaker 2: greatest thing we've ever seen. Johnny, you gotta draft Johnny football.
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Speaker 2: John Gruden doesn't know what he's looking at, particularly at quarterback.
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Speaker 2: Hey Nathan Peterman, Oh he's Oh, I believe in Nathan Peterman.
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Speaker 2: Oh you would have thought he was dating his daughter
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Speaker 2: or something. Nathan Peterman was not a good NFL quarterback.
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Speaker 2: John Gruden, for some kind of way believed it. Look
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Speaker 2: at John Gruden's drafts when he was with the Raiders.
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Speaker 2: He's not drafting good football players like guys who turned
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Speaker 2: out and not developing them either, So I am not
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Speaker 2: going to be listening to anything that John Gruden tells
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Speaker 2: me about quarterbacks. He's a former NFL head coach, He's
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Speaker 2: not devoid of knowledge, but that doesn't mean that he
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Speaker 2: doesn't need a GM to pick the players. This just
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Speaker 2: shows how unimaginative that coaches can be at times, and
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Speaker 2: then the best ones all they figure out what to
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Speaker 2: do with their studs. So John Grutin, I'm sorry, but
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Speaker 2: you gotta miss me with this one, because you, my friend,
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Speaker 2: are completely wrong off base, have missed the boat with
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Speaker 2: this one hundred percent and completely next thing up. This
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Speaker 2: one really played near and dear to my heart because
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Speaker 2: I feel like I'm on the front lines of talking
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Speaker 2: about the college football the transfer Portal Collective Bargaining testified
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Speaker 2: in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee about it, and
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Speaker 2: I saw a social media post from TJ Mo, who
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Speaker 2: is a former college football player at Missouri. He says
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Speaker 2: he was a captain there. Okay, good, okay, so let's
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Speaker 2: listen to what you have to say, mister captain man.
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Speaker 2: I thought that this was very interesting and very telling.
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Speaker 2: I know that there's a lot of other people that
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Speaker 2: feel the same way that TJ does for you to understand.
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Speaker 2: TJ Mo former Missouri captain, and he blames the transfer
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Speaker 2: portal for all the wrongs in college sports right now.
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Speaker 2: And the other part to notice is that he's a
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Speaker 2: contributor to Fearless with Jason Whitlock, so he's already I
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Speaker 2: came into this when I saw the Fearless Jason Whitlock thing.
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Speaker 2: Mind you, I've worked with Jason Whitlock all these things.
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Speaker 2: I automatically was like, Okay, okay, this is going to
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Speaker 2: be a griftie post about the transfer portal and all
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Speaker 2: the wrongs in college football. But I always say, don't
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Speaker 2: discount a message because you don't like the messenger. He says,
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Speaker 2: I was a captain at Missouri and now I can
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Speaker 2: barely watch the games. College sports used to be a
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Speaker 2: build men. The portal is building mercenaries that are completely
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Speaker 2: disconnected from the universities they represent, and it's antithetical to
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Speaker 2: what college sports have always been and what they should be.
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Speaker 2: I played four years in Missou. I knew who was
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Speaker 2: going to be in the locker room next to me
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Speaker 2: every single day. Players now graduate with a group of
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Speaker 2: guys they barely know. You can't build bonds in one semester.
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Speaker 2: He is one hundred percent right about one part about this. Yes,
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Speaker 2: you knew who was going to be in the locker
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Speaker 2: room with you, and the bonds that I built with
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Speaker 2: the guys that I was there with that came in
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Speaker 2: in my class are absolutely special. He is one hundred
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Speaker 2: percent right about this, and that there is a mercenary
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Speaker 2: mentality and there are.
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Speaker 1: Other people that feel like that.
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Speaker 2: Okay, then he goes on the joy of college sports
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Speaker 2: has been destroyed with the portal. I can hardly watch
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Speaker 2: my own team anymore because there are almost no players
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Speaker 2: who seem like real Mazou guys. This is true across
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Speaker 2: the country. I hear it from fans all the time.
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Speaker 2: They're losing interest by the day. Rivalries mean nothing because
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Speaker 2: none of the players have been at the school for
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Speaker 2: more than five minutes. They're not invested in the school
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Speaker 2: and the history. How could they be. The transfer portal
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Speaker 2: didn't cause that. The transfer portal is a symptom of that.
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Speaker 2: It's like if I say that my arm hurts, the
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Speaker 2: pain isn't the problem. Is the fact that my arm
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Speaker 2: is broken is the problem. There have been a couple
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Speaker 2: things that have contributed to this conference realignment. When you
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Speaker 2: break up the Pac twelve and you put teams into
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Speaker 2: the Big Ten. Obviously it's worked out well for some
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Speaker 2: of the teams that the TV money is there, all
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Speaker 2: this stuff. You take Oklahoma and Texas out of the
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Speaker 2: Big twelve if you put them in the SEC. Oh,
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Speaker 2: and you wonder why rivalries are getting all messed up
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Speaker 2: because the teams that used to play each other don't anymore.
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Speaker 2: While it's easy to blame the players for this, this
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Speaker 2: is an adult problem. The adults messed up a lot
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Speaker 2: of the rivalries. The transfer portal is just a symptom
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Speaker 2: of that. And I asked this same question about Michigan
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Speaker 2: fans as it related to their national championship in basketball.
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Speaker 2: They started five players who weren't even on Michigan. They
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Speaker 2: started five players on their national championship basketball team that
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Speaker 2: were not even Michigan men, they didn't.
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Speaker 1: Start out their college career.
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Speaker 2: And so I asked, how do you feel about that
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Speaker 2: as Michigan people, Because yes, you're happy to have a
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Speaker 2: national championship, But I can tell you for sure that
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Speaker 2: those players will never be celebrated the same way that
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Speaker 2: guys who have been at the university for multiple years.
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Speaker 2: Will look at Fernando Mendoza at Indiana. He came from
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Speaker 2: cal He's gonna be celebrated there because he won a
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Speaker 2: national championship, won the Heisman, first to do those things there.
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Speaker 2: So yes, he's going to be celebrated. But imagine how
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Speaker 2: much more he would have been celebrated had he started
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Speaker 2: his career. And mind you, this is no disparasement up
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Speaker 2: on st them or that he made a bad decision
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Speaker 2: or anything.
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Speaker 1: No that.
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Speaker 2: Imagine how much more Indiana fans would love him had
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Speaker 2: he started at Indiana.
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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: I do agree that it takes a little bit away
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Speaker 2: from it, but I don't believe that it's completely ruining
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Speaker 2: the sport like people would have you believe. And then
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Speaker 2: the final part that TJ had to say was fourteen
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Speaker 2: of the twenty two starters for Indiana's title team were transfers.
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Speaker 2: All five of the Michigan starters were transferred on the
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Speaker 2: title team this year. There's no continuity. This is the
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Speaker 2: disaster for the players and fans. The coaches hate it too.
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Speaker 2: Are we just going to sit around and let it happen?
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Speaker 2: Nick Saban went to Congress to try to get it fixed.
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Speaker 2: If Congress is the only way to fix it, then
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Speaker 2: they need to hurry up and do it.
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Speaker 1: What about the coaches?
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Speaker 2: What about Lincoln Riley leaving Oklahoma to go to USC.
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Speaker 2: You know why he left because he felt like it
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Speaker 2: was the right thing for him, his family, and his career.
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Speaker 1: That's why he left.
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Speaker 2: Regardless of whether it turns out to be a great
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Speaker 2: decision or not, That's why he did it. And this
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Speaker 2: is why these players are hopping in the portal. The
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Speaker 2: number one reason why players hopping the portal is not
18:46
Speaker 2: for money, because the majority of players that hop into
18:49
Speaker 2: portal find no own They're being pushed into.
18:51
Speaker 1: The portal by coaches.
18:53
Speaker 2: So the portal problem is being looked at from two
18:57
Speaker 2: different well only from one lens of the players who
19:00
Speaker 2: leave and go get more money somewhere else, right. The
19:03
Speaker 2: other part of it is is that the majority of
19:07
Speaker 2: kids who enter the portal are pushed into the portal.
19:10
Speaker 2: I know that there are going to be some people
19:11
Speaker 2: who disagree with that, but just the number show you
19:14
Speaker 2: there are more players that get stuck in the portal,
19:16
Speaker 2: the more players who get out of the portal. Why
19:19
Speaker 2: do you think that that is their coaches sat up
19:21
Speaker 2: there and told them, I don't know if you're going
19:23
Speaker 2: to play here, it's not the opportunity for you. Blah
19:25
Speaker 2: blah blah. That's why they hopped into portal the majority
19:28
Speaker 2: of players. So we have to look at it from
19:30
Speaker 2: both sides. But I do understand TJ. Mole's point about
19:34
Speaker 2: feeling disconnected from some of the players. It's a very
19:38
Speaker 2: real thing. But it's also something that we do have
19:42
Speaker 2: to get used to. And this is why the parody
19:45
Speaker 2: in college football is important the CBA. The way some
19:49
Speaker 2: rich booster can't just come along and say, all right, hey,
19:52
Speaker 2: we want your player.
19:54
Speaker 1: We'll give them five million dollars.
19:55
Speaker 2: We can't blame the players for things that we do
19:59
Speaker 2: every single day as adults. Lincoln Riley, USC's head coach.
20:04
Speaker 2: So Lincoln Riley clearly believes that USC is their championship
20:08
Speaker 2: window is open now, and he said, quote taking this over,
20:13
Speaker 2: you knew you had to go fight like hell just
20:16
Speaker 2: to get this window open at USC. Now, if you
20:20
Speaker 2: look at the wind totals for this season, USC win
20:23
Speaker 2: total eight and a half wins, The immediate thought was
20:26
Speaker 2: your win totals eight.
20:28
Speaker 1: Eight and a half wins.
20:29
Speaker 2: You can't win a national championship Indiana last year win
20:32
Speaker 2: total eight and a half.
20:34
Speaker 1: It is clearly possible.
20:35
Speaker 2: But the part that I want to assess is that
20:38
Speaker 2: this is Lincoln Riley's fifth year at USC, and he's like,
20:43
Speaker 2: we had to fight like hell to get the championship
20:45
Speaker 2: window open. No, No, that's not what happened. Yes, you
20:49
Speaker 2: did have to get your collective together. You had to
20:51
Speaker 2: start recruiting better. You hired a GM, all of those things.
20:55
Speaker 2: Pocketbooks got open, You're making big time offers to get
20:58
Speaker 2: kids landed on campus. Now, all of those things for
21:00
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty sixth class, twenty seven class. You're doing
21:03
Speaker 2: a good job, all those things. It's not that he
21:06
Speaker 2: had to fight like hell to get the championship window open.
21:09
Speaker 2: He had to fight like hell to learn how to
21:12
Speaker 2: build something. Because Lincoln Riley was like Ryan Day at
21:17
Speaker 2: Ohio State, when he was at Oklahoma, he was born
21:20
Speaker 2: on third base. He was born on third base at Oklahoma.
21:25
Speaker 2: Stoops left him the world. He got the keys to
21:28
Speaker 2: the Ferrari. He got out to USC excellent season in
21:32
Speaker 2: year one with Caleb Williams and went eleven and three
21:35
Speaker 2: and barely.
21:36
Speaker 1: Missed the college football Playoff.
21:37
Speaker 2: Then you go eight and five, seven and six, and
21:40
Speaker 2: then nine to four last season with a loss in
21:42
Speaker 2: the Alamo Bow. Now we're sitting here thinking, all right,
21:46
Speaker 2: what was the fight like hell? Because number one Lincoln
21:49
Speaker 2: Riley had never had top tier defenses, so he had
21:52
Speaker 2: to change his philosophy on defense, and has this fully
21:56
Speaker 2: changed with Gary Patterson in how he approaches his offense
22:00
Speaker 2: and how that marries with the defense and how to
22:03
Speaker 2: win football games. You don't come into your first season
22:06
Speaker 2: at a program when you first time head coach and
22:09
Speaker 2: get go twelve and two and go to the Rose Bowl.
22:12
Speaker 2: We got a good breakdown coming of them for next week.
22:15
Speaker 2: They are in a situation it is all or nothing
22:19
Speaker 2: this year. Now I'm going to put up their schedule
22:22
Speaker 2: and when you see this, you tell me how many
22:24
Speaker 2: wins that this USC team is staring at for this
22:28
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six season. So we got games against San
22:31
Speaker 2: Jose State, Fresno State, in Louisiana. They should win all
22:34
Speaker 2: three of those. But here's where it gets tricky. Oregon
22:37
Speaker 2: then Washington. Now granted they're both at home. Washington has
22:40
Speaker 2: been bad on the road under Jeff Fish but they're
22:44
Speaker 2: an older team now, so they could be back, but
22:47
Speaker 2: that's going to be a very difficult game. Washington has
22:49
Speaker 2: recruited well, they're well coached, and we know that Oregon
22:52
Speaker 2: is my national championship pick.
22:54
Speaker 1: For this year. That back to back could be tough.
22:56
Speaker 2: And then the at Penn State and people are discounting
22:59
Speaker 2: this Penn State team for some reason. They got a
23:02
Speaker 2: very good coach in Matt Campbell. It is going to
23:05
Speaker 2: be probably Penn State's wide out most likely because there's
23:08
Speaker 2: not really any other game of the schedule that could
23:10
Speaker 2: be this is an incredibly bad matchup. Then they have
23:12
Speaker 2: a bye week, then they got to go to Camp Randall,
23:15
Speaker 2: then Ohio State comes out, they gotta go at Indiana,
23:18
Speaker 2: and then Ucla is gonna be much improved.
23:20
Speaker 1: So that's one Oregon.
23:23
Speaker 2: Washington, Penn State, Ohio State, Indiana, Ucla or Wisconsin. So
23:29
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you six possible losable games. Are we
23:33
Speaker 2: supposed to think that the championship window is open? Because
23:36
Speaker 2: what combination of losses could get USC into the College
23:41
Speaker 2: football playoffs Outside of being ten and ten and two,
23:44
Speaker 2: they're over under his eight and a half. Let's say
23:47
Speaker 2: that they win nine games. What combination of losses? Because
23:50
Speaker 2: if they lose to Rutgers, Wisconsin, Maryland, that's gonna be
23:55
Speaker 2: a big hit. Even if you beat Oregon or Ohio State.
23:58
Speaker 2: Any other combination of losses outside of that, two more
24:02
Speaker 2: losses puts you outside of the college football playoff. So
24:06
Speaker 2: ten and two or better is their only scenario based
24:10
Speaker 2: upon how they do in terms of with their preseason schedule.
24:14
Speaker 2: USC is all in on this season. Their social media
24:16
Speaker 2: team is out trolling everybody. They're putting a licensed plates,
24:22
Speaker 2: They're messing with Oregon, they're messing with UCLA, They're messing
24:25
Speaker 2: with everybody. What would be acceptable for USC this season
24:29
Speaker 2: for you to keep believing that Lincoln Riley is the guy,
24:32
Speaker 2: because remember, you don't got to convince me. He has
24:35
Speaker 2: to convince the people that are putting out the money
24:37
Speaker 2: for these recruits.
24:38
Speaker 1: You guys, up.
24:39
Speaker 2: Next history lesson on the Heisman Trophy. Who can win
24:44
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24:47
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Speaker 2: code unafrey. I'm a Heisman Trophy voter. I'm gonna tell
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Speaker 2: you who's going to be the twenty twenty six Heisman
26:06
Speaker 2: Trophy winner. So Let's start with the numbers in how
26:08
Speaker 2: to do this, because seven of the last ten winners
26:12
Speaker 2: they were transfers. Lamar Jackson, Bryce Young, and Derek Henry
26:15
Speaker 2: are the only ones who were not. Nine in a
26:17
Speaker 2: row have been top ten picks in the NFL draft,
26:21
Speaker 2: and eight of those nine were top two picks. Eight
26:24
Speaker 2: of the last ten have been quarterbacks. Davonta Smith and
26:27
Speaker 2: Travis Hunter are the only exceptions to that. So if
26:30
Speaker 2: you are playing the odds and you're trying to pick
26:32
Speaker 2: a heis and winner right now. We're looking for a
26:35
Speaker 2: transfer quarterback who also might be on some of the
26:38
Speaker 2: way too early twenty twenty seven mock drafts, particularly in
26:41
Speaker 2: the top ten, well except for the Fernando Mendoza thing,
26:44
Speaker 2: because he wasn't on anybody's mock draft last year.
26:47
Speaker 1: So it's not an exact science. You can confidently.
26:50
Speaker 2: Deduce that it won't be this year's preseason favorite, because
26:54
Speaker 2: it never is. There's been a couple times where it
26:57
Speaker 2: almost has been the preseason favorite. They finished seve second
27:00
Speaker 2: twice in the last ten years. You had Deshaun Watson
27:03
Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen, Trevor Lawrence in twenty twenty, and then
27:06
Speaker 2: they finished third twice, with c. J. Stroud in twenty
27:10
Speaker 2: twenty two and Dylan Gabriel in twenty four. You might
27:13
Speaker 2: want to shoot the messenger here, but based on the criteria,
27:16
Speaker 2: a transfer quarterback with a high draft stock who isn't
27:20
Speaker 2: the odds on favorite heading into the season is your
27:23
Speaker 2: best bet, and that data is Oregon's Dante Moore. Another
27:28
Speaker 2: player that you have to consider using that data is
27:31
Speaker 2: Jad mob over there at usc because he is currently
27:34
Speaker 2: not even one of the top seven or eight quarterbacks
27:37
Speaker 2: in terms of Heisman odds with most of the bookmakers.
27:40
Speaker 2: And even though that three Lincoln Riley quarterbacks have won
27:43
Speaker 2: the award in the last decade, they're zero for two
27:46
Speaker 2: as preseason favorites. People forget but at Oklahoma, Spencer Wrestler
27:51
Speaker 2: was the odds on favorite to win the Heisman back
27:54
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one, and it was only natural to
27:56
Speaker 2: assume that Caleb Williams that he deserved the best odds
27:59
Speaker 2: when he was trying to go back to back. Now,
28:01
Speaker 2: the interesting thing about this year in twenty twenty six
28:04
Speaker 2: is depending on who said in the odds, you have
28:07
Speaker 2: both CJ. Carr Notre Dame and Arch Manning at Texas
28:10
Speaker 2: as the preseason favorites. Arch Manning was the favorite last year.
28:14
Speaker 2: But you also have to remember what odds maker's job is.
28:17
Speaker 2: They're trying to get you to open your wallet, casuals.
28:19
Speaker 2: They're patting on him because they know the name. Colorado
28:23
Speaker 2: was a betting favorite for a national championship a couple
28:25
Speaker 2: of years ago, and everybody knew that they weren't gonna win.
28:28
Speaker 2: Odds makers, they are reaping all the benefits. We're gonna
28:31
Speaker 2: go through the last decade and remind ourselves of how
28:34
Speaker 2: things turned out based upon preseason perception. Let's look at
28:38
Speaker 2: twenty In the preseason, you had Deshaun Watson Clemson's quarterback
28:43
Speaker 2: five to one, Leonard Fournette LSU running back six to one,
28:46
Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey at Stanford seven to one, Baker Mayfield over
28:50
Speaker 2: at Oklahoma ten to one.
28:52
Speaker 1: Who won it?
28:52
Speaker 2: Oh, it was none of those. It was Lamar Jackson
28:57
Speaker 2: and he had a two to one ratio in in
29:00
Speaker 2: terms of face first place votes over Deshaun Watson after
29:03
Speaker 2: leading the acc and passing yards per completion, rushing yards
29:07
Speaker 2: and rushing touchdowns. It seems like it came out of nowhere,
29:10
Speaker 2: right exactly now the results of twenty seventeen Baker Mayfield.
29:13
Speaker 2: He absolutely dominated the votes with over seven hundred first
29:16
Speaker 2: place votes and that made the second time that a
29:19
Speaker 2: Stanford running back was the runner up in three years.
29:23
Speaker 2: In the twenty eighteen preseason, that unnamed Stanford running back
29:27
Speaker 2: went into twenty eighteen as the odds on favorite alongside
29:31
Speaker 2: Wisconsin Jonathan Taylor, quarterbacks Jake fromm Touattager bay looa Khalil Tate.
29:37
Speaker 2: But the winner in twenty eighteen started the preseason with
29:40
Speaker 2: twenty ty to one odds, and that winner in twenty
29:44
Speaker 2: eighteen was mister Kyler Murray, who beat out two and
29:47
Speaker 2: was a top seven vote getters. They were all quarterbacks,
29:51
Speaker 2: despite preseason odds having two running backs at the top.
29:55
Speaker 2: You're starting to get the point now. Preseason favorites do
29:58
Speaker 2: not win. But there's more. In twenty nineteen, the preseason
30:02
Speaker 2: vote to them. Tiger body Low was the favorite for
30:05
Speaker 2: most odd makers in twenty nineteen and he barely edged
30:08
Speaker 2: out Trevor Lawrence in terms of the odds, and both
30:11
Speaker 2: of them were far ahead of Justin Fields and Jalen
30:14
Speaker 2: Hurts as the third and fourth most likely to win.
30:16
Speaker 1: The trophy. What the ultimate winner was?
30:18
Speaker 2: Twenty nineteen won of the greatest seasons that we've ever
30:20
Speaker 2: seen Joe Burrow with the second highest number of first
30:24
Speaker 2: place votes ever behind Oh j did it and the
30:28
Speaker 2: largest margin of victory of all times.
30:31
Speaker 1: Now, how about twenty twenty.
30:32
Speaker 2: That strange year because the preseason favors that year were
30:35
Speaker 2: very strange because it.
30:36
Speaker 1: Was all hype.
30:37
Speaker 2: We didn't have the benefit of spring ball or even
30:40
Speaker 2: fall camps that were going to be open to the media.
30:42
Speaker 2: And there was a player before the COVID shortened season
30:46
Speaker 2: that was tied for the fourth best preseason Heisman odds
30:49
Speaker 2: who never ended up playing another down of college football ever.
30:53
Speaker 1: Again.
30:54
Speaker 2: Remember Wake Forest to Georgia transfer Jamie Newman. I hope
30:58
Speaker 2: Better's got their money back on that one. He never
31:00
Speaker 2: even played. But the favorite that year was a two
31:03
Speaker 2: way tie between Justin Fields and Trevor Lawrence. And while
31:07
Speaker 2: they finished second with Trevor Lawrence and seventh with Justin Fields,
31:11
Speaker 2: the winner ultimately was Alabama wide receiver DeVonta Smith twenty
31:16
Speaker 2: three of Mac Jones's forty one touchdown passes.
31:19
Speaker 1: Can you think about it?
31:20
Speaker 2: If Mac Jones had known this, Mac Jones could have
31:22
Speaker 2: spread the love around a little bit more and he
31:25
Speaker 2: might have won the Heisman Trophy instead of his wide
31:28
Speaker 2: receiver getting it. So I'm trying to show you there
31:31
Speaker 2: are no outliers. So you might as well stop thinking
31:36
Speaker 2: that it's going to be any of the preseason favorites.
31:38
Speaker 2: Because in twenty twenty one, fencer rattler Bryce Young, dj
31:43
Speaker 2: Uyangalaile J T.
31:45
Speaker 1: Daniels at Georgia. Do you remember me playing there? Exactly?
31:48
Speaker 2: Mister Stetson been at North Carolina, quarterback Sam Howell Ohio State,
31:52
Speaker 2: c J. Stroud deerre king over at Miami and the
31:55
Speaker 2: winner of the Heisman in twenty twenty one, Bryce Young.
31:59
Speaker 2: He dominated the voting in the year where two of
32:01
Speaker 2: the top five finishers were actually pass rushers in Aiden
32:05
Speaker 2: Hutchinson and Will Anderson. While those dudes are fantastic, that
32:09
Speaker 2: is not typical.
32:10
Speaker 1: But was he the preseason favorite. Nope, he was the
32:13
Speaker 1: second face.
32:14
Speaker 2: And this trend carries over into twenty twenty two, when
32:16
Speaker 2: the preseason Heisman candidates were not the winners, and even
32:21
Speaker 2: though Bryce Young was a defending Heisman winner, c J.
32:24
Speaker 2: Stroud came into twenty twenty two as the Heisman favorite
32:28
Speaker 2: because it is rare to be able to duplicate defeat
32:30
Speaker 2: because it is hard to overachieve what you did the
32:33
Speaker 2: year before that got you the trophy. But it was
32:36
Speaker 2: actually the man who was third on the list that
32:38
Speaker 2: took home the hardware, and that, my friends, was the
32:42
Speaker 2: quarterback for the Chicago bearsmister Caleb Williams, because he beat
32:46
Speaker 2: out surprise candidate Max dugging Over at TCU by over
32:49
Speaker 2: three hundred first place votes. Then you go into twenty
32:52
Speaker 2: twenty three, Caleb Williams. They were preparing for him to
32:55
Speaker 2: potentially be a back to back Heisman Trophy winner, so
32:59
Speaker 2: much so known inside information here. If you look at
33:03
Speaker 2: USC Stadium, all their Heisman Trophy winners have their jerseys
33:07
Speaker 2: in there and they're all cardinal red, whatever color you
33:10
Speaker 2: want to call it.
33:10
Speaker 1: Caleb, if he got a back to back Heisman, he.
33:13
Speaker 2: Was going to get a gold jersey in the stadium
33:17
Speaker 2: that was going to be different than everybody else's because
33:19
Speaker 2: he would have gotten his own distinction, which would have
33:22
Speaker 2: been dope. And this was negotiated preseason.
33:24
Speaker 1: So you know what was going on there.
33:26
Speaker 2: Then you had Jaydon Daniels, Drake May, Quinn Ewers and
33:30
Speaker 2: Michael Pennick Junior. Now the results of the twenty twenty
33:33
Speaker 2: three Heisman Trophy. This one hurt me a little bit
33:37
Speaker 2: because this was hunanimously thought as one of the greatest
33:40
Speaker 2: quarterback years of all time for the Pac twelve.
33:43
Speaker 1: It was crazy. And not only did Caleb Williams.
33:46
Speaker 2: Not repeat as Heisman winner, neither did Bodnicks or Michael
33:50
Speaker 2: Pennick Junior. They were able to take home the hardware
33:53
Speaker 2: because they split votes a little bit, and instead Jaydon
33:56
Speaker 2: Daniels had five hundred and three first place votes to
33:58
Speaker 2: get the win. Now, whichever media member gave Missouri's Cody
34:03
Speaker 2: Schrader a first place vote, absolutely shame on you because
34:06
Speaker 2: you know what you were doing.
34:08
Speaker 1: And that's no hate on Jayden Dames. I'm a fan.
34:11
Speaker 2: I'm the person who wrote an article after his freshman
34:14
Speaker 2: year at Arizona State said he was a future Heisman
34:17
Speaker 2: Trophy winner and going to be a top pick in
34:20
Speaker 2: the NFL draft after what people thought was the pedestrian
34:23
Speaker 2: first season.
34:24
Speaker 1: But I got visions.
34:25
Speaker 2: Now go on to twenty twenty four, the preseason Heisman
34:27
Speaker 2: odds Now, some of the odds makers had Dylan Gabriel
34:31
Speaker 2: as the favorite heading into twenty twenty four. Some of
34:34
Speaker 2: them had Carson Beck, Quinn Ewers, and Jalen Moore were
34:38
Speaker 2: all hot on their tails. They were tied for third
34:41
Speaker 2: at a round ten to one odds and the twenty
34:43
Speaker 2: twenty four results, obviously he was the man t Travis.
34:46
Speaker 1: Under But then you had Dylan Gabriel and cam.
34:48
Speaker 2: Ward because they were the only two quarterbacks to finish
34:51
Speaker 2: inside of the top five in the voting. Because you
34:53
Speaker 2: had Ashton who was number two and Cam Scattaboo who
34:56
Speaker 2: came in fifth. Now let's move on to last year
34:59
Speaker 2: even further evidence a lot of people fail for the
35:01
Speaker 2: preseason hype big time. You had arch as the preseason favorite,
35:05
Speaker 2: and like I said, you can kind of throw that
35:08
Speaker 2: one out. But Garrett Nussmar he was second coming off
35:11
Speaker 2: four thousand yard year. Kay Klemnick was headed into his
35:14
Speaker 2: senior season and was coming off of college football playoff appearance,
35:18
Speaker 2: and that was the guy I thought could possibly win it.
35:20
Speaker 2: Then you had Jeremiah Smith, who was the greatest freshman
35:23
Speaker 2: wide receiver that we had ever seen, Leonora Sellers at
35:27
Speaker 2: South Carolina. He was fifth in odds at fourteen to
35:30
Speaker 2: one for reasons honestly I can't even remember at this
35:33
Speaker 2: point in time, but none of them, not a single
35:37
Speaker 2: one of them, even finished inside of the top ten. Now,
35:40
Speaker 2: this was the most chaos from the beginning of the
35:42
Speaker 2: end of the season since twenty fifteen. That's when the
35:45
Speaker 2: first seven names listed at the top of the first
35:48
Speaker 2: Heisman Trophy odds were Ezekiel, Elliott, Dak Prescott, Leonard Fournette,
35:53
Speaker 2: Tevon Boyken, Cody Kessler, Nick Chubb, and Paul Perkins. And
35:57
Speaker 2: none of those players finished the year as a Heisman
36:00
Speaker 2: finalists or even in the top five.
36:02
Speaker 1: Of the voting.
36:03
Speaker 2: And in twenty twenty five, we know who won fer
36:05
Speaker 2: Nando Mendoza. And for most people, they felt like that
36:09
Speaker 2: came out of nowhere. And if you watch this show,
36:12
Speaker 2: you know that after his first start at Cal three
36:14
Speaker 2: years ago, I was lamenting that Cal's offense would end
36:18
Speaker 2: up ruining how good this kid would ultimately be. But
36:21
Speaker 2: he transferred, so we did not have to see that happen. Now,
36:24
Speaker 2: let's look at the twenty twenty six season. Who will
36:27
Speaker 2: win the Heisman Trophy?
36:29
Speaker 1: Who do you like?
36:30
Speaker 2: Because the odds makers will tell you that CJ. Carr
36:33
Speaker 2: and Art sitting around eight to one. Are the preseason favorites,
36:37
Speaker 2: but now we gotta be able to throw them out
36:39
Speaker 2: because it hasn't happened. So then you got right behind him,
36:42
Speaker 2: Trindad Chambliss at nine to one after the course granted
36:46
Speaker 2: him another year of eligibility at ole Miss and he
36:50
Speaker 2: fits the criteria transferred quarterback NFL talent. Not the overall favorite,
36:55
Speaker 2: but he's gonna be without last year's offensive staff and
36:59
Speaker 2: as head coach in Lane Kippen. How about Julian sand
37:02
Speaker 2: because he's fourth on the majority of boards and he
37:05
Speaker 2: was on the Heisman stage last year as a finalist.
37:08
Speaker 2: But Josh Hoover, he's getting the benefit of Indiana system.
37:12
Speaker 2: He's sitting at about twelve to one because if he
37:15
Speaker 2: was still at TCU, he would not be at the
37:17
Speaker 2: top of the list, and that is well within the
37:19
Speaker 2: neighborhood of Julian Sant. But then you got the man
37:22
Speaker 2: Dante Moore sitting there at twelve to one. In some places,
37:25
Speaker 2: he is the person that I predict will be on
37:29
Speaker 2: the stage holding the trophy at the end of the season.
37:32
Speaker 2: Not only will he put up the requisite stats, he
37:35
Speaker 2: will be on a top five team. He will be
37:37
Speaker 2: on a team that will be in the College football Playoffs.
37:40
Speaker 2: They have almost the entire defense returning. Their wide receiver
37:45
Speaker 2: crew is crazy. They put together good offensive lines. Joe
37:48
Speaker 2: Moore ward finalist year after year. That's why Dante Moore
37:53
Speaker 2: will be on the Heisman stage.
37:54
Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, call me a Homer if you want to.
37:57
Speaker 2: But I've given you enough data for you to understand
38:01
Speaker 2: what the truth is.
38:02
Speaker 1: I didn't make this up.
38:04
Speaker 2: The results are the results, and I can't wait for
38:07
Speaker 2: this college football season as well. It is top ten
38:12
Speaker 2: time and we've been talking about the Heisman Trophy and
38:15
Speaker 2: who's gonna win it in twenty twenty six So we
38:18
Speaker 2: decided to do a Heisman draft like the top ten
38:21
Speaker 2: that we usually do.
38:22
Speaker 1: I'll go, Ralph will go, and we are picking.
38:24
Speaker 2: The top ten Heisman seasons in the last ten years,
38:28
Speaker 2: so from twenty sixteen to twenty twenty five. But there
38:32
Speaker 2: is a caveat. Obviously, we're ranking them by order of
38:35
Speaker 2: college football season, their Heisman year, not their NFL potential,
38:40
Speaker 2: not what happened after that, just that particular season. And
38:46
Speaker 2: the caveat is that we can take one second place
38:49
Speaker 2: finisher because even as a Heisman voter, I know that
38:52
Speaker 2: sometimes the winner is not the person that you're voted for.
38:56
Speaker 2: And you know, if I didn't vote for him, if
38:58
Speaker 2: I didn't vote him in that order, then it probably
39:00
Speaker 2: is wrong, right, Ralph.
39:02
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's important to have strong convictions and believes whether
39:04
Speaker 3: or not they're correct.
39:06
Speaker 2: All right, So we will take our pick, and I'm
39:12
Speaker 2: happy that I get a chance to go first because
39:14
Speaker 2: there's a theme, and I'm hoping because I don't believe
39:18
Speaker 2: that Ralph shares this same theme that I do. I
39:23
Speaker 2: am taking Joe Burrows LSU twenty nineteen season four hundred
39:30
Speaker 2: and two for five hundred and twenty seven for seventy
39:34
Speaker 2: six percent completions, fifty six hundred yards passing sixty, Ralph
39:40
Speaker 2: sixty touchdowns sixty. This is insanity, only six interceptions. Now,
39:46
Speaker 2: granted the team was phenomenal and three hundred and seventy
39:50
Speaker 2: eight yards per game, there's nobody else that could possibly
39:53
Speaker 2: be number one over him.
39:56
Speaker 3: I think you're right, and I think it's an outlier.
40:00
Speaker 3: It's clearly video game numbers. God got control of the sticks.
40:04
Speaker 3: He was an LSU fan that year. Because those are
40:07
Speaker 3: not numbers. We typically see and I'm not a big
40:10
Speaker 3: best player on the best team guy. When it comes
40:12
Speaker 3: to Heisman, I think it would just be the best
40:14
Speaker 3: player in all of college football that year. He did both.
40:17
Speaker 3: That's rare. I mean it might be the best Heisman
40:20
Speaker 3: season all time. I think, highest votes outside of OJ Simpson.
40:25
Speaker 1: Oh j.
40:29
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean yeah. The Burrow with the cigar, it
40:33
Speaker 3: was an easy number one. It was a layup. The
40:35
Speaker 3: next one I don't think is so easy. The next
40:39
Speaker 3: one I don't think is so easy. I kind of
40:40
Speaker 3: went back and forth on this one, but I'm gonna
40:42
Speaker 3: have to go all the way back to twenty sixteen
40:44
Speaker 3: because what Lamar Jackson did. He had a two to
40:48
Speaker 3: one ratio first place votes over Deshaun Watson. I think
40:51
Speaker 3: if you don't remember how good Deshaun Watson was at Clemson,
40:54
Speaker 3: He's arguably better than Trevor Lawrence just as a football
40:57
Speaker 3: player in college. And you know, people say Lamar is
41:01
Speaker 3: not a passer, but he led the ACC in passing yards,
41:04
Speaker 3: yards per completion, rushing yards, and rushing touchdowns. He led
41:08
Speaker 3: the conference in every single one of those. That's to
41:13
Speaker 3: Clemson was in that conference. Florist, he was in that
41:16
Speaker 3: conference and so like he's the best rusher and best
41:19
Speaker 3: passer in one of the better conferences in one season.
41:24
Speaker 3: So he's my number one pick twenty sixteen.
41:26
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson one hundred percent, Rolph one hundred percent. I
41:32
Speaker 2: can't even be mad at that. I can, but I
41:36
Speaker 2: am going to for the number three best Heisman season
41:39
Speaker 2: of all top well in the last ten years, I
41:42
Speaker 2: am going to use my second place opportunity and I
41:46
Speaker 2: am going to take the man who finished second in
41:50
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, and that is Deshaun Watson. M Because Deshaun
41:56
Speaker 2: Watson that season, not only did he do with Joe
41:59
Speaker 2: Burr did and got a championship, he sixty seven percent completions,
42:06
Speaker 2: forty five hundred yards passing forty one touchdowns. Now, I
42:10
Speaker 2: did throw seventeen interceptions, but you get more interceptions when
42:13
Speaker 2: you throw that level of touchdowns and three hundred and
42:17
Speaker 2: six yards per game. And he beat Alabama on the
42:21
Speaker 2: last play of the season for the national championship. To
42:24
Speaker 2: mister Hunter Renfro that little roll out in the corner
42:27
Speaker 2: that people think was a pick. It was outstanding, outstanding
42:32
Speaker 2: season and he was crazy good.
42:36
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I think you left one on the table.
42:39
Speaker 3: For me, it's arguable. It's arguable if you match up
42:42
Speaker 3: the twenty seventeen winner with the twenty sixteen runner up,
42:45
Speaker 3: what would have happened. But Baker Mayfield actually got over
42:47
Speaker 3: seven hundred first place votes, which made Bryce Love the
42:54
Speaker 3: runner up. Second time in three years that a Stanford
42:57
Speaker 3: running back was the runner up for the Heisman, which
43:01
Speaker 3: is definitely some East Coast bias. But Baker Mayfield played
43:05
Speaker 3: in the middle of the country and he dominated, and
43:07
Speaker 3: it was an extraordinarily exciting season. So for me for
43:11
Speaker 3: number four, I'm gonna go with Baker Mayfield's twenty seventeen I.
43:16
Speaker 2: Gotta be honest, Ralph, I'm still bitter about that season.
43:21
Speaker 2: And that started my Lincoln Riley, I guess frustration because
43:28
Speaker 2: they were supposed to beat Georgia in the Rose Bowl.
43:32
Speaker 2: They had them dead to rights, and then Lincoln booty
43:36
Speaker 2: hole got about that tight and then instead of putting
43:41
Speaker 2: the ball in your Heisman Trophy, clearly the best player
43:45
Speaker 2: in college football that year's hands, you're like, oh, let's
43:50
Speaker 2: let's run it and try to run out the car man.
43:52
Speaker 2: Put the ball in your best decision maker's hands. He
43:56
Speaker 2: Nick Saban has talked about this, said when he was
43:59
Speaker 2: in high school that the coach told him put the
44:02
Speaker 2: ball in your best player's hands, like find a way
44:05
Speaker 2: to get it to him when you were must get situations.
44:08
Speaker 2: And they didn't do that that. Now, mind you, I
44:11
Speaker 2: didn't consciously like I was very mad at Lincoln Ridley,
44:14
Speaker 2: but I didn't realize that this had.
44:16
Speaker 1: Rolled over this far. And yes, because they should have
44:19
Speaker 1: beat Georgia.
44:20
Speaker 2: They should have knocked the sec down because they were
44:22
Speaker 2: in the Big twelve at the time, and he didn't
44:24
Speaker 2: do it. He let him off the hook, and Georgia
44:27
Speaker 2: just ran the ball for domination and finished the football
44:30
Speaker 2: game that they were absolutely crushed in.
44:34
Speaker 3: Thank god. This is a regular season award.
44:37
Speaker 2: Yes, Oh but still that's why I'm not putting to
44:42
Speaker 2: Mowyer because he did not get hardware.
44:45
Speaker 1: He did not get hardware.
44:47
Speaker 2: Okay, so my next guy, I'm very excited about him
44:52
Speaker 2: because his season was absolutely fantastic. I am taking mister
44:58
Speaker 2: Fernando min seventy two percent completions, only thirty five hundred
45:07
Speaker 2: yards passing, but forty one touchdowns, six picks, and you
45:11
Speaker 2: know what he brought home, Ralph the hardware He not
45:17
Speaker 2: only took home the Heisman, took home the Natty two man.
45:21
Speaker 2: And not only he didn't do it at Alabama, he
45:23
Speaker 2: didn't do it at Clemson, he didn't do it at Georgia.
45:26
Speaker 2: He did it at Lowly, Indiana, at a place that
45:30
Speaker 2: nobody could have ever predicted. Not only a I mean
45:34
Speaker 2: they haven't even had a thing that even looked like
45:37
Speaker 2: a possible Heisman winner, I mean Heisman even contender since
45:41
Speaker 2: Antwine Randall l And not only that, he got them
45:46
Speaker 2: to win the big ten, beat Ohio State, beat Miami,
45:50
Speaker 2: just beat big names all.
45:51
Speaker 1: Over the place, derrip Oregon, all over that stuff. One
45:54
Speaker 1: of the most.
45:55
Speaker 2: Improbable, incredible seasons that we have ever had.
45:59
Speaker 1: And it maybe should have been my number three pick.
46:03
Speaker 1: He was money.
46:05
Speaker 3: Three, yeah, five, He's absolute money at the end of
46:08
Speaker 3: that Penn State game. And if I had your pick
46:10
Speaker 3: in that position, that's the pick I would have made.
46:13
Speaker 3: I went back and forth probably ten times trying to
46:15
Speaker 3: figure out which of the two that I was deciding
46:17
Speaker 3: between would have been better. I don't think this is
46:20
Speaker 3: a better pick than yours. And the reason why is
46:22
Speaker 3: because two of the people who finished in the top
46:24
Speaker 3: five in Heisman voting this particular year were pass rushers,
46:29
Speaker 3: and that should go to tell you that maybe the
46:30
Speaker 3: competition for first place in this year wasn't all that great.
46:34
Speaker 3: I think he would have got it regardless. He did
46:36
Speaker 3: every single thing you could possibly imagine that was good.
46:40
Speaker 3: He did it with limited stature, even though you and
46:42
Speaker 3: I know he was an absolute freak show in high school.
46:45
Speaker 3: And that is the twenty twenty one heisman for Bryce Young.
46:49
Speaker 3: He absolutely dominated the voting, but again, there wasn't a
46:52
Speaker 3: ton of competition. It was one of those things where
46:54
Speaker 3: a horse gets out on the first leg and then
46:57
Speaker 3: they just stay ahead of everybody being higher time.
47:00
Speaker 1: Yep.
47:01
Speaker 3: And between him and Fernando Mendoza's last year, I think
47:04
Speaker 3: I'm a little more impressed with Fernando Mendoza. But Bryce
47:07
Speaker 3: Young was young in his college career when when he
47:11
Speaker 3: pulled this off, and yeah, the team around him was
47:13
Speaker 3: really good. But we're not taking that away from Joe Burrow,
47:15
Speaker 3: are we. So I'm going with twenty twenty one Bryce Young.
47:19
Speaker 2: Yes, and now I consider it the Bryce Young thing.
47:24
Speaker 2: But guess what he didn't get.
47:26
Speaker 3: I know, I know, regular season award, though.
47:31
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I'm taking the whole seasons as understand
47:36
Speaker 2: totality now that we're looking at it in a hindsight,
47:40
Speaker 2: all right.
47:41
Speaker 3: I also picked Bryce Young to force you into a
47:43
Speaker 3: situation to eventually probably have to pick a Lincoln Riley guy.
47:48
Speaker 1: Hey, well not so fast, my friend.
47:52
Speaker 2: My next pick and my number was the number seven
47:56
Speaker 2: in the Heisman top ten for the last ten years.
48:01
Speaker 1: DeVonta Smith.
48:03
Speaker 2: DeVonta Smith one hundred and seventeen catches, eighteen hundred and
48:09
Speaker 2: fifty six yards, twenty three touchdowns receiving and then but
48:16
Speaker 2: he also had a I think he had a kick
48:18
Speaker 2: return to or a rushing to touchdown. Do was phenomenalde
48:22
Speaker 2: was phenomenal. He finished with twenty four total touchdowns.
48:26
Speaker 1: Yeah. And do you know what he took home.
48:29
Speaker 3: Ralph, I know what he took home in a shortened season. Yes,
48:33
Speaker 3: I do.
48:34
Speaker 2: A national championship, baby, I like winners.
48:39
Speaker 1: I do. I like winners.
48:41
Speaker 2: And now, mind you, it's a regular season award, so
48:43
Speaker 2: you can't vote for winners, like you don't know who
48:45
Speaker 2: the winner is gonna be when you vote. But in
48:48
Speaker 2: hindsight you're looking back, yo, he was the dominant force
48:51
Speaker 2: in then winning a national championship.
48:54
Speaker 3: Good job It's so insane to me that Mac Jones
48:56
Speaker 3: finished third in the voting because he didn't spread it
48:59
Speaker 3: out more. Yes, yeah, Jones could have won the Heisman
49:03
Speaker 3: that year, but twenty three of his forty one touchdown
49:05
Speaker 3: passes went to one player. And I like it. I
49:08
Speaker 3: like the receiver can win the Heisman. I think that's
49:11
Speaker 3: very cool.
49:13
Speaker 1: Yeah. I love that year. I love that year.
49:17
Speaker 3: All right, all right, so you know I'm a PAC
49:23
Speaker 3: twelve guy, and this is tough. I'm thinking of two
49:30
Speaker 3: separate years, two separate PAC twelve guys. You can't use
49:33
Speaker 3: your number two. I can, but I think I'm gonna
49:37
Speaker 3: save it and I'm gonna make number eight overall. Caleb
49:42
Speaker 3: Williams in twenty twenty two. And I know it goes
49:47
Speaker 3: against your winners thing, and I know it goes against
49:49
Speaker 3: your Lincoln Riley offense thing, but he was and is
49:55
Speaker 3: a freak show, special athlete who prepared to win the
49:59
Speaker 3: high has been since he was ten years old, and
50:02
Speaker 3: pulled it off and had a chance to and had
50:05
Speaker 3: a chance to go back to back. But you know
50:07
Speaker 3: that didn't necessarily have everything around him that and he
50:10
Speaker 3: stopped running. That was a I think that was a
50:13
Speaker 3: huge mistake. I think anytime you go out and you
50:16
Speaker 3: try to prepare for the NFL while you're still in college,
50:19
Speaker 3: he should have just been himself. Yeah, and we gotten
50:22
Speaker 3: to the point where it used to be the Heisman
50:25
Speaker 3: winner was somebody who would maybe go in like the
50:27
Speaker 3: second third round. Now eighty percent of the time it's
50:30
Speaker 3: the number one overall pick, And the second that he
50:33
Speaker 3: was eligible, he became the number one overall pick.
50:34
Speaker 2: So I thought that was where it was not that
50:37
Speaker 2: that case, Like, you know, for almost a decade you
50:41
Speaker 2: were having, Yeah, players that may may not even go
50:44
Speaker 2: to the NFL win the Heisman Trophy.
50:48
Speaker 3: And one thing you cannot argue about is that even
50:52
Speaker 3: if he was doing too much, eighty percent of what
50:55
Speaker 3: Caleb Williams accomplished kind of came off of his own improvisation.
51:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, he's he's a freak when it comes to
51:03
Speaker 2: getting incredible. He will think think about about this. Lincoln
51:07
Speaker 2: Riley's best season at USC was his first one where
51:10
Speaker 2: he was like, we didn't even have a roster that
51:12
Speaker 2: that resembled.
51:13
Speaker 1: A blah blah blah and all this.
51:15
Speaker 2: Okay, why do you think you're won what they went
51:18
Speaker 2: ten or eleven games this season.
51:20
Speaker 1: I think they won eleven games that year. It was
51:24
Speaker 1: because of Caleb Williams.
51:30
Speaker 3: All right, My pac twelve defenses were ready for whatever
51:33
Speaker 3: that was.
51:34
Speaker 2: Yes, only only Oregon hadn't hadn't well, Oregon in Utah
51:38
Speaker 2: had an answer for him.
51:40
Speaker 3: That was it.
51:40
Speaker 2: And it was still a struggle. It was still a
51:43
Speaker 2: struggle because he would just make hero play after hero play.
51:47
Speaker 2: All right, my number nine guy, I have resisted being
51:51
Speaker 2: able to take a Lincoln Riley guy. Travis Hunter, Travis Hunter.
51:59
Speaker 3: What it's just nasty work because you and I are
52:06
Speaker 3: both were in a death match to not have to
52:09
Speaker 3: pick one player in particular who deserves to be picked? What?
52:15
Speaker 1: Who? But actually I'll let you go, I say it
52:20
Speaker 1: after But no, this was mine was easy.
52:24
Speaker 2: I was going with championship caliber, like I have a theme.
52:29
Speaker 2: So and then there's Travis Hunter.
52:32
Speaker 3: Because there's Travis Hunter.
52:34
Speaker 2: Because this season was phenomenal. Ralph, he had ninety six catches,
52:39
Speaker 2: so only what twenty off of the DeVonta Smith's year
52:45
Speaker 2: for twelve hundred and fifty eight yards and fifteen touchdowns
52:49
Speaker 2: and another rushing touchdown as well, So so that alone
52:55
Speaker 2: could get you in the Heisman conversation that alone. But
52:58
Speaker 2: then on d had another four interceptions, and yeah, I
53:04
Speaker 2: had another four interceptions as well, Ralph, I don't even
53:11
Speaker 2: know what you could possibly else you could possibly want.
53:14
Speaker 1: Out of this dude.
53:15
Speaker 2: He might have been the best dB in college football
53:18
Speaker 2: and was one of, if not the best wide receiver too,
53:24
Speaker 2: So that's got to get you in the top ten.
53:27
Speaker 2: So I was not using any bias or any slight
53:30
Speaker 2: against any person or any coach in not leaving a
53:34
Speaker 2: guy off the list. And I would have put Baker
53:37
Speaker 2: on there, but you took Baker. See, so I wasn't
53:40
Speaker 2: anti Lincoln. I was going to take Baker and you
53:42
Speaker 2: took him, and you took Caleb. I was gonna take
53:46
Speaker 2: Caleb too.
53:48
Speaker 3: This is the nasty, nasty situation that I'm in right now.
53:52
Speaker 3: Here's who's left, Kyler Murray your kids. Yes, he was
54:00
Speaker 3: the quarterback of my Arizona Cardinals for a really long time.
54:03
Speaker 3: I never really enjoyed that time, but his college career
54:06
Speaker 3: should stand on his own. Jaden Daniels, who clearly people
54:10
Speaker 3: are gonna think I'm biased against, but I've been very
54:13
Speaker 3: clear from the beginning that I thought that his Heisman
54:16
Speaker 3: campaign was was very arbitrarily stat stuff stacked.
54:23
Speaker 2: Yes game, so they never even an option for me
54:31
Speaker 2: that was he never had been an option that should
54:32
Speaker 2: have been Michael Pennix junior or Bo Nix's Heisman.
54:37
Speaker 3: He had some freak show performances against the SEC that
54:41
Speaker 3: at that time still dominated the college football consciousness. Things
54:45
Speaker 3: are shifting from that point. And I think the PAC
54:49
Speaker 3: twelve West Coast vote was split by the greatest quarterback
54:52
Speaker 3: season of all time of any conference ever. And so
54:57
Speaker 3: my options on my options right now, our pick Jayden
55:01
Speaker 3: Daniels who left Arizona State. Everybody knows I'm Arizona State guy.
55:04
Speaker 3: Pick Kyler Murray, and and that one I think would
55:07
Speaker 3: actually makes sense because I'm only judging on on Oklahoma
55:10
Speaker 3: and he was out there swinging the baseball bat too.
55:12
Speaker 3: People forget. But the truth I have to go with
55:16
Speaker 3: how I actually feel, whether or not people are gonna
55:18
Speaker 3: believe me on this number ten is Michael Pennix, and
55:21
Speaker 3: Michael Penix should have been the Heisman winner instead of
55:25
Speaker 3: the second place finisher. And even you can probably admit
55:27
Speaker 3: that be an Oregon guy being a Bonix guy, Michael Penix,
55:33
Speaker 3: Michael Penix deserved that. Like they always said about Trevor Lawrence,
55:36
Speaker 3: Michael Penix deserves to have the Heisman associated with his name.
55:40
Speaker 1: Yeah.
55:41
Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely think that he would have been a
55:43
Speaker 2: more appropriate winner. And that's no shade to Jayden, but
55:46
Speaker 2: because you know, I like Jayden.
55:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so let's.
55:50
Speaker 2: Go mind you remember what did I write in an
55:54
Speaker 2: article in his after his freshman year when he was
55:57
Speaker 2: at Arizona State.
55:59
Speaker 1: I was like, this is the potential.
56:00
Speaker 2: Heisman winner and he'll be a top pick in the
56:02
Speaker 2: NFL draft after his freshman year, throwing like sixteen touchdowns
56:07
Speaker 2: in like two picks.
56:09
Speaker 1: And people were like, what what are you saying? And
56:11
Speaker 1: mm hm, says the vision.
56:14
Speaker 3: So what would you how would you do that? How
56:16
Speaker 3: would you rank those last two? Like, let's say we
56:18
Speaker 3: throw out the your you're picking of Deshaun Watson in
56:21
Speaker 3: twenty sixteen, my pick of Michael Pennix over even over
56:25
Speaker 3: Jayden Daniels in the year that he won. How would
56:28
Speaker 3: you rank Kyler Murray versus Jayden Daniels.
56:32
Speaker 2: I would go Kyler Murray before Jade and Daniels.
56:39
Speaker 3: That's how I feel too. And again, he was excellent.
56:44
Speaker 3: He was excellent. But when you get into the percentages
56:47
Speaker 3: of what came against them, cupcakes, Yeah.
56:53
Speaker 2: Sixty nine thirty forty three hundred yards, forty two touchdowns,
56:59
Speaker 2: seven interceptions, and then he rushed for a lot of
57:03
Speaker 2: yards as well.
57:03
Speaker 1: He was absolutely incredible.
57:05
Speaker 2: Bro And and oh he rushed for one thousand yards
57:08
Speaker 2: that year too, rush for a thousand yards.
57:11
Speaker 3: And it was nasty. And I think he beat Alabama
57:14
Speaker 3: and he deserves a ton of credit. But that six
57:17
Speaker 3: touchdown game? Was it six touchdowns against Southern?
57:20
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that.
57:24
Speaker 3: M And that's one of the times I wish you
57:27
Speaker 3: could count the postseason, yes, because Michael Pennix was just
57:32
Speaker 3: that was not the greatest Washington team that's ever been assembled.
57:37
Speaker 3: Not talent, are we sure?
57:39
Speaker 1: Because they had they were three or four first round picks.
57:42
Speaker 2: They had him, Rome, Roma, Doonza that had alignment and yeah,
57:46
Speaker 2: I think they had four first round picks that year.
57:48
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, they were. They were absolute freaks on offense.
57:51
Speaker 3: But like everyone talks about Roman Dune, Jay, Jayleen McMillan
57:54
Speaker 3: and all that stuff, but they were getting the ball
57:57
Speaker 3: forty yards down the field. Yes, that's insane, Like.
58:01
Speaker 2: He was throwing it in a shoe box forty yards
58:04
Speaker 2: down the field. They were just running, just just just
58:08
Speaker 2: and if it didn't and if you didn't catch it
58:09
Speaker 2: was gonna hit you in the back of the helmet.
58:11
Speaker 3: So yeah, and the only way to stop him was
58:14
Speaker 3: to literally break him. You had to break that man's
58:17
Speaker 3: ribs to make him look human.
58:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was.
58:21
Speaker 3: But I'm a hater. It is what it is. You're
58:26
Speaker 3: definitely a hater.
58:28
Speaker 2: What how my hater? I had a criteria, Ralph. It's
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Speaker 2: written right here.
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Speaker 1: Don't you see this?
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Speaker 2: This is high level technical stuff right here.
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Speaker 3: That paper looks like it's been chewed on.
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Speaker 2: Look, hold up, let me let let me show you
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Speaker 2: my cry criteria.
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Speaker 1: Hold up, let me let me pull the criteria sheet out.
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Speaker 1: Hold on real quick.
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Speaker 2: I gotta find the the criteria sheet.
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Speaker 3: You gotta find it. You're looking right now. You're digging
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Speaker 3: these things.
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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I'm looking through things right now as we speak.
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Speaker 3: Kind of edit in some like rifling through a drawer.
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Speaker 3: This aft, here's the criteria.
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Speaker 1: Oh damn, you can't.
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Speaker 2: It's a trophy with first on it. Okay, so that
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Speaker 2: was the the criteria. There's championship. So so that's how
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Speaker 2: I based it. Because I took a long time to
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Speaker 2: do all the math on it.
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Speaker 3: But yeah, no, no, and that nine win Colorado team
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Speaker 3: was with Travis Hunter. Uh, definitely won a few internet
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Speaker 3: based trophies.
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Speaker 1: Two way player, Ralph, that's true.
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Speaker 3: I can't let's say on that these are all incredible,
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Speaker 3: every single one of these incredible. Trevor Lawrence should have
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Speaker 3: been mentioned at some point and shout out to Stanford
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Speaker 3: running Backs someday, someday.
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Speaker 1: Yep.
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