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Ep. 959: Rut Fresh Radio - How To Hunt This Cold Front and Ohio Giants! · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Seth.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to Refresh. This is Jake Hoefer and this
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  Speaker 2: week we are doing this a little bit from a
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  Speaker 2: mobile studio. I'm just wrapping up a new Mexico ELK
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  Speaker 2: trip and we have a great episode with a variety
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  Speaker 2: of guests Ohio, Pennsylvania, Who's going to New Jersey? And
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  Speaker 2: we have Mark Kenyon kicking off the episode. Before we
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  Speaker 2: get into all the guests and all the intel, I
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  Speaker 2: in the US. It's been hot, it's been a little
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  Speaker 2: bit stagnant, but there's still been some big bucks that
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  Speaker 2: have been shot. And we have a little bit of
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  Speaker 2: a front moving throughout the country this week. And so
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  Speaker 2: if you're excited and you want to go out and
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  Speaker 2: make a play, you're going to get some great intel
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  Speaker 2: from folks that either have already shot a buck or
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  Speaker 2: developing a plan to hopefully connect with one. Let's go
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  Speaker 2: ahead and kick things off with Mark Kenyon. Here we go,
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  Speaker 2: all right, First up on the line, we have Mark
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  Speaker 2: Kenyon and I'm still in my mobile recording studio here, Mark,
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  Speaker 2: how's it going.
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  Speaker 3: It's good, It's really good.
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  Speaker 1: I guess I'm not as good as you coming off
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  Speaker 1: of an incredible LK hunt, but I felt like I
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  Speaker 1: was flying pretty high. The white tail season is kicked
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  Speaker 1: off here in Michigan. I've had a fun start to it,
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  Speaker 1: so I have no complaints. Well good, well, good. So
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  Speaker 1: what constitutes a fun start? Well, I have been out
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  Speaker 1: three times since the opener. So I went out the
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  Speaker 1: first two nights, and then I took off two days,
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  Speaker 1: and then I hunted again on Sunday. And two of
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  Speaker 1: those hunts are on my own, like you know, really
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  Speaker 1: getting after the buck I'm going after. And those were
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  Speaker 1: good hunts. And then the last hunt was more of
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  Speaker 1: a family hunt. I took my two sons they're five
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  Speaker 1: and seven, out four hunt with me, and that was
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  Speaker 1: an adventure of a different kind, but very fun, fun
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  Speaker 1: to have them out there with me. So so yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the uh, you know, the good times were had with
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  Speaker 1: the kids. And I saw very good activity on the
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  Speaker 1: first couple nights, which I can tell you about if
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  Speaker 1: you want.
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  Speaker 3: On those early October hunts, what.
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  Speaker 2: Did you see the deer doing and let's hear a
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  Speaker 2: little bit about your setup, because those are some of
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  Speaker 2: the first swings of the year, so they're usually maybe
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  Speaker 2: the most calculated.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So you know what I did the first couple
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  Speaker 1: nights of the year was hunt a place where I
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  Speaker 1: had pretty darn good chances of seeing the deer I
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  Speaker 1: was after, but it was actually a.
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  Speaker 3: Low risk place to get into and to get out of.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, given the fact it was the first
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  Speaker 1: night of the season, if there was reason to be
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  Speaker 1: a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: More risky, I would have.
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  Speaker 1: But actually my intel was showing me that the buck
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  Speaker 1: I was after was coming out to this kind of
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  Speaker 1: low risk spot in daylight still, so I thought, Man,
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  Speaker 1: I don't need to do something crazy if he's coming
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  Speaker 1: here already.
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  Speaker 3: So I decided I'm gonna hunt.
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  Speaker 1: I had a perfect wind for a rare easterly wind
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  Speaker 1: for this zone. I was hunting a tiny green food
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  Speaker 1: plot right on the edge of a betting area with
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  Speaker 1: oaks dropping as well, so it was kind of like
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  Speaker 1: dual food source that's in cover, surrounded by standing corn
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  Speaker 1: and tall early successional habitat and then tight to his bedroom.
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  Speaker 3: And that was a setup for those first couple.
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  Speaker 1: Nights it was, you know, a little bit cooler than
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  Speaker 1: previous for a lot of people.
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  Speaker 3: He had like mid eighties.
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  Speaker 1: And then October first and second came and we got
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  Speaker 1: that slight drop in temperature down to.
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  Speaker 3: Like the seventies. So I saw a decent bit of movement.
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  Speaker 1: It was still pretty late the first night, but the
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  Speaker 1: second night, so October second, you know, an hour and
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  Speaker 1: a half or so before dark, I really started seeing
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  Speaker 1: a lot of deer movement. And I saw seven different
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  Speaker 1: bucks that night and maybe fifteen to twenty dos. A
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  Speaker 1: couple things stand out to me as far as the
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  Speaker 1: activity I've seen.
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  Speaker 3: Number One, the bucks are.
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  Speaker 1: Definitely feeling their oats like they're starting to just like
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  Speaker 1: you know, get after just a tiny bit. And by
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  Speaker 1: that I mean almost every time I saw multiple bucks
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  Speaker 1: together they were there was almost always two of them sparring.
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  Speaker 1: I've seen so much sparring, both in person on these
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  Speaker 1: hunts and then also on my trial cameras. Lots and
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  Speaker 1: lots of bucks just kind of locking up, lightly tickling times,
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  Speaker 1: pushing each other back and forth, you know, nothing aggressive,
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  Speaker 1: but just kind of saying, hey, how strong are you?
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  Speaker 1: Here's how strong I am? You know, just kind of
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  Speaker 1: getting a little bit of that angst out and that
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  Speaker 1: got me thinking that, man, a great reminder that this
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  Speaker 1: time of year, some very light rattling, some very light,
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  Speaker 1: little kind of time tickling can be an effective way
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  Speaker 1: to signal, hey, there's another buck over here.
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  Speaker 3: You're curious, come on over again.
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  Speaker 1: Nothing aggressive, but just that very light little tinkle tinkle
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  Speaker 1: tick tick. That's what I was hearing a lot of
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  Speaker 1: this week, and I think that's something that will probably
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  Speaker 1: continue in the future.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so were you able to lay eyes on your
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  Speaker 2: target buck on those hunts where you saw you know,
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  Speaker 2: twenty dos and seven different bucks.
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  Speaker 1: I did not see my target buck. I did see
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  Speaker 1: mostly year.
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  Speaker 3: And a half folds.
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  Speaker 1: I saw several two and a half folds, and I
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  Speaker 1: saw one three and a half. Now I will tell
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  Speaker 1: you that I do have daylight pictures of my target buck.
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  Speaker 3: He showed up at another food.
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  Speaker 1: Plot of mine that I was not at on the
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  Speaker 1: first night, like two minutes after dark. So he was,
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  Speaker 1: you know, in daylight opening night, about two hundred yards
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  Speaker 1: away from me.
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  Speaker 3: And then he has.
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  Speaker 1: Been moving in the morning in daylight three different times
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  Speaker 1: this week. So the unfortunate issue has been that I
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  Speaker 1: can't get into hunt this zone with the winds we've
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  Speaker 1: had and kind of the food set up, just like
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  Speaker 1: the property layout, to get in there and try to
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  Speaker 1: hunt a morning without blowing things up. So I'm on
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  Speaker 1: the fence about maybe I should try something with this
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  Speaker 1: cold front coming up this next week. Maybe there's a
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  Speaker 1: way with the wind we've got coming in that I
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  Speaker 1: might be able to pull off a morning hunt because
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  Speaker 1: he's definitely he's been moving that last hour of daylight
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  Speaker 1: in the morning, So that's a possile stability, but I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure we'll get to it. But with this weather coming in,
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  Speaker 1: I think there's you know, going to be several different opportunities.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we can jump right into the weather because
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  Speaker 2: I think that you know, it's been elevated attempts here
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  Speaker 2: above average temperatures. You know, across the board throughout the country.
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  Speaker 2: It looks like there's a weather front rolling in Monday
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  Speaker 2: or Tuesday. So with this list, people are listening to
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  Speaker 2: this on Wednesday, you know, there's a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: that really like hunting. Obviously, a front after a pretty
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  Speaker 2: good rainstorm, like creating a pretty good storm for opportunity.
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  Speaker 2: With all that in mind, are you seeing that weather
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  Speaker 2: in your forecast, and that's what's kind of helping you
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  Speaker 2: shape your plan.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, it's gonna be a little bit
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  Speaker 1: different for everyone depending on where they are in the country.
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  Speaker 1: So for me in Michigan, the front is hitting Tuesday,
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  Speaker 1: and then we have that cool weather Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,
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  Speaker 1: and then it heats back up Friday. You're east of me,
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  Speaker 1: so if you're on the East coast, you might not
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  Speaker 1: be getting that cold front till Wednesday. You might have
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  Speaker 1: a Wednesday, Thursday, Friday front. So you know, if you're
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  Speaker 1: listening right now, I'm sure you're all checking your own weather.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't need to tell you to do this,
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  Speaker 1: but think about what I'm telling you and what the
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  Speaker 1: other people are telling you today in relation to that.
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  Speaker 1: You know, somebody might say, well, Monday is going to
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  Speaker 1: be the best day, but that might be because they
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  Speaker 1: are in Minnesota, but actually their Monday might be what
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  Speaker 1: you will have on your Wednesday or whatever it might be.
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  Speaker 1: So keep that in mind. So we've got this big
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  Speaker 1: front coming through. As you mentioned, rain's going to come
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  Speaker 1: in for me on Tuesday. Temperature is going to drop
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  Speaker 1: about twenty degrees for the highs it'll be like mid
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  Speaker 1: eighties today, it's going to be mid to low sixties.
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  Speaker 1: It's a high tomorrow, and then the low temperatures are
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  Speaker 1: going to drop all the way into the thirties by Thursday,
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  Speaker 1: with like a frost warning on Thursday. So because of that,
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  Speaker 1: and because i also am looking at my extended forecast
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  Speaker 1: and I'm seeing that this is the only three day
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  Speaker 1: window like this, This is the only nice front at
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  Speaker 1: least for my zone. It goes right back up to
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  Speaker 1: kind of warm and stable weather for the next fourteen
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  Speaker 1: days after that. So I'm looking at this as like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: this is like mine, this is my mid October front.
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  Speaker 1: This is gonna be the shot, and then it's probably
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  Speaker 1: gonna be late October until we get the next you know,
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  Speaker 1: change in weather patterns that might trigger a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of extra movement. So I'm I'm gonna be a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more aggressive here and look at this as like
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  Speaker 1: this is one of my big swings, and then it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be I'm actually taking off next week for a
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  Speaker 1: different trip somewhere, so I'm not gonna hunt my Michigan
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  Speaker 1: spots anyways. So all that said, I am in the
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  Speaker 1: process right now of deciding where the best opportunities would
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  Speaker 1: be to take a serious swing at this buck. So
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna, you know, maybe get tight tight in the
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  Speaker 1: cover right on some oaks that are adjacent to his bedroom.
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  Speaker 3: That's one idea I've had.
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  Speaker 1: I'm debating do I want to do like one more
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  Speaker 1: kind of like pseudo safe but still in the game
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  Speaker 1: hunt and if that doesn't work out, then the second
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  Speaker 1: day do the big swing.
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  Speaker 3: Those are the things I'm thinking about. But the two
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  Speaker 3: options would be, you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, either hunting in the oaks right adjacent to his
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  Speaker 1: bedroom or just one layer back from that, closer to
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  Speaker 1: the food sources in between, well the planted food sources,
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  Speaker 1: so I can be in a transition between food and bed,
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  Speaker 1: or I can be tight to the bed. In particular,
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  Speaker 1: there's one spot where this buck is beded a lot. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I these bucks bed in you know, multiple locations, so
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  Speaker 1: you never know exactly where they're gonna be, but I
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  Speaker 1: know that this one, you know, several acres zone is
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  Speaker 1: a spot that he spent a lot of time in
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  Speaker 1: the past. There's a big scrape right on the edge
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  Speaker 1: of it that he's hit a ton over the last
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  Speaker 1: couple of years. That I have a tree prepped pretty
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  Speaker 1: close to it that I can get to. It's just
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  Speaker 1: a tough spot to get into if it's you know,
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  Speaker 1: if it's super dry and still, you're gonna bump deer
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  Speaker 1: getting in there. But if it's wet from rain in
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  Speaker 1: the morning and there's some breeze, I could probably get there.
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  Speaker 1: So that might be what I do for me. Tuesday
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  Speaker 1: could be the wet, windy day. It might be worth
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  Speaker 1: getting in there. So I'm I'm weighing those cost benefits
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  Speaker 1: right now.
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  Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it's crazy that this might be one of
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  Speaker 2: the better opportunities here in October. Obviously the weather can change.
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  Speaker 2: And the other benefit to this time of year too
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  Speaker 2: that no one's mentioned yet, but we haven't had daylight
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  Speaker 2: savings time. So if you get off work a little
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  Speaker 2: bit early, this is potentially an opportunity to sneak out
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  Speaker 2: the stand after work. Maybe jet out of work a
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  Speaker 2: little bit early. Because it's gonna be super stagnant for
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  Speaker 2: fourteen days. You're probably gonna wish you at least went
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  Speaker 2: out and took a swing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that's that's what I'm looking at. I'm
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  Speaker 1: just not seeing a lot of that. You know, those
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  Speaker 1: changes and changes on a dynamic forecast is often going
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  Speaker 1: to lead to dynamic movement stability, you know, like like
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  Speaker 1: a monoculture. This is everything right, Like a monoculture of
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  Speaker 1: habitat usually not great. A monoculture of weather forecast not ideal.
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  Speaker 1: Not that they're not going to move, but you're just
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  Speaker 1: going to have things kind of stagnate a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: So I like the fact that, hey, here's an opportunity
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  Speaker 1: where things are shifting up big time. It's going to
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  Speaker 1: lead to some kind of shift with a deer. Might
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  Speaker 1: as well take a swing of swing for and worst scenario,
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't work out, and then you still have several
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  Speaker 1: weeks until late October when a lot of us are
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  Speaker 1: gonna get really serious anyway. So it's it's kind of
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  Speaker 1: a low risk situation this point as far as I'm concerned.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So, I mean, with all that being said, we
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  Speaker 2: got to put a scale one to ten on it.
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  Speaker 2: Where do you think the next seven a's are going
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  Speaker 2: to fall? And we'll say eight for you, will include Tuesday.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't do that for anyone else, but we'll throw
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  Speaker 2: that in here for you. So two day, the following Wednesday.
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  Speaker 1: So if you're gonna let me include the day before
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  Speaker 1: people are listening that, I'm gonna give this like a
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  Speaker 1: like a.
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  Speaker 3: Like a seven.
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  Speaker 1: Like I think it's pretty good, I mean pretty darn
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  Speaker 1: good for like a mid October ish time period. It's,
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  Speaker 1: like I said, it's worth a swing. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: it's going to be the same that on October twenty seventh,
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  Speaker 1: twenty degree cold front would be, but I think that
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  Speaker 1: there will be deer moving. I think that having a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of rain and wind and switching things up
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  Speaker 1: is going to be really nice, not just forgetting deer moving,
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  Speaker 1: but also allowing us that access. It's been so dry here,
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  Speaker 1: I know that's been the case over so many parts
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  Speaker 1: of the country. Finally getting a little bit of moisture,
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  Speaker 1: some wet leaves, that's going to give you a chance
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  Speaker 1: to do something that maybe you couldn't do over the
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  Speaker 1: last week because it's so still, so loud. This is
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  Speaker 1: a chance to take advantage of those things. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: giving you a solid seven. I'm very excited about these
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  Speaker 1: next three days. I'm I'm planning on hunting Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,
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  Speaker 1: and then probably pull back a little bit be more conservative,
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  Speaker 1: go out to some safe spots with the kids where
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  Speaker 1: I'm just trying to, you know, show them a good time,
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  Speaker 1: or see some doughs or shoot a dough But I'm
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  Speaker 1: looking forward to Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: One last question for anyone that is not they're looking
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  Speaker 2: at this weather front, they're hearing, man, I should be
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  Speaker 2: pretty excited. I should go take a swing. They're also
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  Speaker 2: the person that says, man, I just haven't had any
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  Speaker 2: deer show up yet, or I'm still waiting on a buck,
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  Speaker 2: or I'm still waiting on one to show up. What
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  Speaker 2: would you be your suggestion or of one piece of
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  Speaker 2: advice for them to take somewhat of advantage of this opportunity,
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  Speaker 2: even though they don't feel like they're ready to make
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  Speaker 2: a calculate choice and they're just kind of going with
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  Speaker 2: the flow at the moment.
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  Speaker 1: So I think I would say if I did not
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  Speaker 1: have any you know, if I didn't have a deer
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  Speaker 1: I was after, or feel confident that there was some
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  Speaker 1: bucks in the air that I wanted to hunt now
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  Speaker 1: and I kind of hadn't dial to some degree, I
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't take a big swing. I wouldn't be taking like
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  Speaker 1: an early to mid October big swing even with this front,
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  Speaker 1: unless I was doing it in a calculated way. If
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  Speaker 1: I'm in search mode right now, I would still hunt,
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  Speaker 1: of course, but I would probably be hunting somewhere. That's
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  Speaker 1: you know, number one, going to give me opportunities to learn.
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  Speaker 1: That's probably the biggest thing. I would be in search mode,
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  Speaker 1: in observation mode, in scout mode. So hunt observation stands,
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  Speaker 1: hunt places where you can see along ways. If you
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  Speaker 1: have rain or wind, you might want to take advantage
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  Speaker 1: of that to do some scouting actually on the ground
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  Speaker 1: right now. This especially given the fact that we haven't
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  Speaker 1: been able to do that quietly for several weeks because
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  Speaker 1: of how I mean, it's just so crunchy out there
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  Speaker 1: right now. If we finally get rain, what a great
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  Speaker 1: opportunity to go check some stuff out quietly. Of course,
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  Speaker 1: be careful about wind, still be smart about it, but
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  Speaker 1: you can go cover some ground real quick. Take an
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  Speaker 1: afternoon and say, you know what, I'm not gonna hunt tonight.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna scout the heck guy this place. Try
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  Speaker 1: to find a concentration of bucks sign. You know, I
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  Speaker 1: have seen a lot of big rubs already. I've been
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  Speaker 1: seeing bucks really starting to rub in my zone and
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  Speaker 1: some pretty decent sized ones, so that starting scraping is
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  Speaker 1: obviously starting. I'm seeing, you know, the target buck I've
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  Speaker 1: been after has been visiting scrapes relatively frequently. So now
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  Speaker 1: is a great time to get out there. If you
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  Speaker 1: don't already have this intel, take advantage of this moment,
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  Speaker 1: this opportunity to go find that try to find a
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  Speaker 1: buck or several bucks, or concentration of activity that then
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  Speaker 1: you can hunt in a more calculated way next time
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  Speaker 1: you have the day off, or next time the wind
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  Speaker 1: and the weather.
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  Speaker 3: Looks a little better.
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  Speaker 1: So I would say there's plenty of things you can
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  Speaker 1: do now even if you don't have something picked out
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  Speaker 1: that's chasing wonderful.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we have a Jeeven Mullet who shot an awesome
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  Speaker 2: Ohio buck. We have Zach Kaim who shot at to
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  Speaker 2: get a couple of Ohio guys because I know there's
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people that have major heartache there, so
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: I wanted to bring in a couple of Ohio success stories.
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: And then we have Aaron Hepler from Pennsylvania who opened
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: the Hunted That opener in Pennsylvania and is headed to
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: New Jersey. So we have an exciting episode. I hope
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: everyone has a great week and good luck to you.
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: I'm hopeful that this plan comes together for you.
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: Thanks buddy, I appreciate it.
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: Next step we have Javid Mullett with Whitetail Edge, who
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: connected on a great Ohio buck with no food plots,
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: no nothing, just intel and the good game plan. Here
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: we go. Congratulations, you tagged a big deal to kick
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: off the season. How's it feel?
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: Thank you, man, I really appreciate it. Thanks for the
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: innight here. I am humbled for the opportunity and just
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: to keep grinding here, but it feels great. I love
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: killing early, especially for the situation that I'm in with
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: filming Ben, for Whitetail Edge and everything else. Like the
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: sooner I can kill, the more that pressure is off
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: of me, in a freeze, everything up for me to
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: be able to really do what I need to do here.
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: For White Till Edge, yeah, your your tag is filled,
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: but your season is just getting started still exactly everyone else.
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: Yep, my wife, my wife. Everybody's telling telling my wife, oh, yeah,
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: you know he killed early and you should be good,
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: and she's like no, no, yeah.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: No, that that's awesome. So here, let's hear the story
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: and and kind of how you're able to develop a plan.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: Everyone's always waiting, you know, killing a buck early there
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: is a sense of relief, like, man, it all my plan,
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: my preparation, my scouting plan A came together. Uh how
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: did you put together a solid plan that came together
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: so smoothly? Yeah.
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: So basically over the years, I've kind of learned that
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: I I don't put a lot of pressure on myself,
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: or I'm pretty relaxed, and and oh I can't find
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: a dear, I can't do this or I can't do that.
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: Like I'm just like I do my thing and if
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: it works great, if not, I'm just out having fun.
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: And and so I did. I also killed Opening Morning.
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: Actually I think it was back in twenty two with
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: the exact same strategy. And basically this this is on
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: a on a permission property that a couple other guys
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: can hunt, neighboring neighboring guys hunt, and so I have
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: to I have to bounce around between you know, their spots,
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: Like I stay await from spots that I know that
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: they have stands and stuff. And basically my strategy is
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: mock scrapes and sell cameras, and I just I get
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: them in spot and transition zones that I feel like
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: are close to their bedding, and and then I I
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: find points where I can put those cameras and make
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: make scrapes, and and then I just wait it out
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: and whether the deer is going to move in and
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: use that or not. It's it's, you know, kind of
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: just up in the air. But like I said, I
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: just wait then for my cameras to tell me what
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: they're doing and if a deer moves in and uses that.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: So talk a little bit more about that set up
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: with the mock scrapes, intead cameras. Are those in conjunction
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: with food sources, betting mass crops? What did that setup
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: look like?
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so all that stuff comes into play this particular farm.
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: Obviously I did not there's no food plots or anything
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: on that I did on this farm wasn't feeding or anything.
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: And so it's ag. It's it's a mix of of
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: of timber and ag. And it's pretty steep rough terrain
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: as well. So so that stuff comes into play as
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: far as for movement and travel. But in this particular instance,
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: usually obviously everybody says food to you know, bed to food,
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: bed to food, and that it is accurate. But I
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: think in this instance it was maybe a little bit
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: opposite from what people typically think, Like like usually a
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: deer beds in the woods, right, and then it goes
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: into the agfield to feed. Well, this deer was actually
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: bedded in extending cornfield and he was going into the
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: woods into the end of the hardwood timber for feeding
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: in the oaks. And so I killed him between the
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: standing corn field and the hardwood timber.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: That's interesting. That's that's the polar opposite of what most
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: people liked me planned on. And there's there's the debate
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: if they bed in corn or if they don't bet
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: in corn, will hear the story for you?
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: And I guess I don't know for one hundred percent
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: certainty that he was. I should actually go out and
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: walk that field, because I know there are some areas
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: that are maybe a little bit grassy or the corn
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: didn't come up as much, and I just I kind
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: of assumed that he did. I didn't, you know, I
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: didn't have a drone out look or anything like that,
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: So I don't know for sure. But that's where he
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: came from. If he wasn't betted in the corn, he
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: was betted ride on the edge, you know, across the
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: corner from me.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: What made you anticipate him betted, you know, in the corner,
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: on the edge of corn to set up that play.
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: So this camera wasn't necessarily I didn't really have it
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: in mind that, okay, this these deer are going to
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: bet in the corn. It was just the hillside that
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: I had to hunt. And again this is my strategy
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: of just I try to pick the best spots that
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: I can, and I scatter cameras all throughout the farm
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: in these spots, and I try to tell people like
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: if I if I get a twenty five to thirty
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: percent success rate on these cameras, mockscrapes, setups, I should
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: have two or three spots that are gonna work for me,
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: like because I try to usually do my roll of
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: thumb is about a camera per twenty acres. Is what
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: I like to is what I like to do, And
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: then I just try to pick these spots. But this
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: particular spot was so this permission property was timbered seven
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: eight years ago and it's really really thick in a
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: lot of the lot of the wooded areas. And this
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: spot was a pretty steep hillside, west facing hillside, And
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: I often like to look for the east facing or
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: the north facing hillsides and try to monitor those spots
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: a little bit more for the south or west prevailing
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: wind a five on. So many deer like to bed
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: on those on those north and east facing hillsides with
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: the south through a west wind. They can watch down
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: the hill and they can smell from anything behind them.
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: But and this is another another key factor that that
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: was going on here is this particular spot was on
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: the west facing hillside, and it was I saw there
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: was a trail that was kind of coming coming to
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: the standing to the big oak timber, and and I
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: was I was fairly close to a property line here.
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: The neighboring timber is mature. There's there's big oak oak
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: flats on the neighboring timber, and then my side is
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: is timbered. There is some oaks throughout, but a lot
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: of it is just thick shrubby brush stuff. And so
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: this deer was headed to the neighbor's oak flat, and
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: so I was a little bit limited with I may
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: not have put the camera where I did. Obviously, if
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: I probably would have gone over to the actual oak
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: flat and made a mock scrape, but I obviously couldn't
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: do that because that's on the neighbors. So this scenario
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: was just trying to get that travel because I knew
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: that's what they would do once those those oaks start dropping,
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: those acorns start dropping, And that's why I put the
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: camera where I did. And now it ended up we've
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: been having quite a few north northeast winds and that's
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: what happened. He moved into this spot. I feel like
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: because of that northeast wind was on a west facing hillside,
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: and that's what I capitalized. Then Monday night, that was
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: the last predicted northeast wind that we were going to
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: have for a while, So I knew that if I
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: wanted to kill him there, I would.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Have to do it. Yeah, do you think there's strategy
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: looking out into the calendar for the next seven days
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: or so? Do you think the same type of strategy
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: and idea is something that people should have in their mind.
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, I mean, obviously I think anymore if I I
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: try to have these cameras and mock scrapes put out, Uh,
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: it's I'm still trying to figure that out. Just whenever
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: you have time. It comes down to whenever you can
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: get to it, because you can still do it in season.
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: It's just it's it's a little bit it's harder because obviously,
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: if you're going into timber in these sensitive spots and
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: and and you know, essentially scouting your way through and
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: figuring it out, then you're blowing your deer out like
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: you're that's just inevitable now if you can. I would
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: say in season, I'm a little bit more cautious about
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: that unless you're okay with just blowing your deer out
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: and then and then probably your cameras be dead for
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: you know, a few days or a week or whatever
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: until those deer all move back in or in some
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: cases the you know, you might blow deer out and
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: he might be there that night.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: It just depends.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: But uh, in season, I'm usually a little bit more cautious,
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: and I usually try to just stay on the edges
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: field edges where you can drive to or run your
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: e bike or whatever is is often you know, an easy,
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: easiest way to do it, and then hang your cameras
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: on actual live scrapes if they're already showing. Unless I
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: will say, unless you can't shoot to one of those scrapes.
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: I usually try to make so that I can shoot
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: to the scrape that my camera's hungover. And then another
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: big thing that I do is is I try to
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: point the camera and find the route that a deer
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: will take, regardless whether there's a scrape there or not.
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: So the more factors that you can put right and
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: the more exes I guess you could call it, that
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: you can put right in front of your camera, the
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: likelihood of you getting that deer if he comes through
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: is a lot higher, even if he's not checking the scrape.
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: So that's something that I always keep in mind. And
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: then obviously if you do do mock scrapes, then I'm
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: as I'm scouting, I'm looking for trees for me to
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: be able to hunt with different winds that I can
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: kill right if a deer travels that or is hitting
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: that scrape.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Man, that's some really good insight because I feel that,
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: you know, there's been some really good deer get that
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: have been shot and uh, you know, doing reugh fresh
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: now it's like you kind of start hearing this commonality
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: or this theme of scouting and developing you know, a
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: plan to your point, maybe it works twenty percent of
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: the time thirty percent of the time, but dang when
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: it does, oh man, well, And.
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: That's the way I look at it, Like, dude, I
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: have I think I have seven cameras on on this
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: particular piece over over mock Scrapes, and I, like I
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: said it in a video that I took, like, if
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: if twenty percent of these spots work, like I'll still
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: have some good spots like and that's the way that's
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: and and and the more the more you do this
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: and the longer you do it, I'm like, especially mock Scrapes,
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: the more successful you get. Like it's just it's just experience.
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: And you can sit here and listen to all the
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: different types and different ways that that people do it,
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: and and sure you can learn a lot from that,
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: but until you actually go put boots on the ground
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: and just just start figuring it out yourself, like you're
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: going to fail and you just have to expect that.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Looking, you know, here in the next seven ish days
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: for weather, it looks like there might be a front
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: rolling in for folks that still have a tag in
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: their pocket. And this front rolls in. I mean, do
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: you think this is going to be a time that
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: they should really prioritize to be out there. Yeah?
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, I mean I think obviously my favorite times are
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: are small cold fronts of October, and I just proved
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: that again. You know, the other night was a little
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: bit the same. The pressure was rising a little bit.
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: I have a hard time sitting in because a lot
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: of my spots are are deep in and their access
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: is tough. So I have a hard time sitting in
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: those spots if I don't know that the deer is
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: around at least, Like I don't just go blindly hunt
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: these these these scrapes just because the weather's good, like
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: I would. I would rather, you know, go hunt a
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: different property, or hunt on the fringe to kill some doze,
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: or maybe do an observation, sit on a big egg field.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: Or something like that.
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: But I'm not diving into any spots until I know
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: that the deer is in the area at least. And
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: then then is when if the conditions are right with
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: a with a cold front moving in, then just go
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: even go sit Even if maybe he didn't hit your camera,
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: maybe he hit a different camera. A couple hundred yards away.
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: You just if you know he's in the area and
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: you get these cold fronts, absolutely you know it's it's
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: time to go in.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: I love it all right, Scale one to ten. Where
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: do you think the next seven days will be? You
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: know for October? Uh October bear with me here? Uh
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: sure October, October eighth, October fifteenth, Scale one to ten.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Where do you put it? Oh?
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: Probably I would say a five or six.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Okay, I wouldn't.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't be in a hurry. Don't don't haunt just
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: to haunt. I mean, if you do haunt just to haunt,
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: then go sit a spot that that you know, you
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: don't care if you mess it up. Unless unless again
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: you get that and get that fake picture you know
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: that he's there, then then for sure, like go go
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: go in after him. But I I don't get super
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: excited early October, especially coming into the wall like this.
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: It's unless the camera tells you that that you need
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: to go, then then I would be hesitant.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: I like it.
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: Well.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: Congratulations once again. I have a feeling you'll be behind
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: the camera of some more big bucks dropping this fall,
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: so really appreciate it. Congratulations once again.
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: Thank you, I appreciate for the offer. Thanks Jake.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: All Right, next up on the line, we have Aaron
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Heppler from Pennsylvania. How's it going this morning.
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: What's up, dude? It's good to be here.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so your guys is state wide PA season opened
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: very recently and you got the jitters out and a
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: shot of dough.
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: I did, Man, I'm very excited.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: It's always good to like knock the cob webs off
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: and like, you know, get a shot out of his saddle,
• 29:19
  Speaker 6: and it was a really good shot at twenty yards,
• 29:21
  Speaker 6: So that makes you feel it makes you feel good
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: for the rest of the season, you know.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think there's a lot of wisdom
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: to that for anyone that's maybe doesn't have like for
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: a lot of guys, bucks show up later in the year,
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: and so if you're in that boat, I feel like
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: that's such a great opportunity to go through your draw cycle,
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: pick a hair on the deer, squeeze off the shot,
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: because realistically, we all work really hard for that one
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: opportunity throughout the whole fall. And it was that kind
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: of your thought process or were you just out of
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Venison You're like, hey, I want to get the free
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: throw a little bit old for.
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: I mean, you know how much I love my venison.
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: But that's right, Chef Aaron at the You know, no, man,
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: you know I always go through this thing where you
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: get bucks on camera and you want to start out
• 30:07
  Speaker 6: by immediately hunting that buck because you think it's your
• 30:09
  Speaker 6: best opportunity, and there is sometimes there's opportunity to shoot
• 30:12
  Speaker 6: that buck on the opener, but really you're kind of
• 30:16
  Speaker 6: setting yourself up for failure a lot of times, like
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: if you're not ready for that. There's been years where
• 30:22
  Speaker 6: I haven't practiced enough archery out of a saddle or
• 30:26
  Speaker 6: out of whatever I'm planning on hunting on in and
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: I spent a lot of time doing that. I spend
• 30:30
  Speaker 6: a lot of time doing that right before the season,
• 30:32
  Speaker 6: like get up in the saddle, do some offside shooting.
• 30:37
  Speaker 6: You know, my wife was helping throw the arrows up
• 30:39
  Speaker 6: to me in the tree the other day, and that
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: kind of thing really helps. But actually putting an arrow
• 30:45
  Speaker 6: through a deer once or twice is to me, is
• 30:49
  Speaker 6: so key to making a successful shot on a buck
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: later on, because I get buck fever so bad, man,
• 30:55
  Speaker 6: And it really really does help make the shot process
• 30:59
  Speaker 6: when a deer in front of you kind of more
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: of a second nature if you can make it happen
• 31:03
  Speaker 6: a few times.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's that's a great piece of advice.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: So looking here in the next week, I know you're
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: you're gonna hunting out of state. What's your game plan
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: with the weather and you know this current time of year,
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: I feel like October progresses pretty quickly. Where like the
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: excitement of opening day and then it's like, man, we're
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: all the deer, so like, where are you at in
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: your strategy and expectations and where are you headed?
• 31:29
  Speaker 6: Well, the October law is happening early here, man. I
• 31:32
  Speaker 6: mean there's no acorns anywhere. Everything's been so dry, so
• 31:37
  Speaker 6: the mountaintops and stuff are are are just there's nothing,
• 31:41
  Speaker 6: not a lot happening. And that's across the board. Like
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: anybody who talked to here is like, I'm not my
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: cameras are dead. I haven't seen any deer in fields.
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: Nothing.
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: And so I've been wanting to do this little Jersey
• 31:52
  Speaker 6: bear hunt kind of thing for a while. I'm gonna
• 31:55
  Speaker 6: be going there with with some friends locally, with Mitt
• 31:59
  Speaker 6: Shirk and group of guys. But there the Jersey bear
• 32:03
  Speaker 6: population is pretty big, so we're gonna be bow hunting.
• 32:06
  Speaker 6: They have a bow hunting season that has a couple
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: of day overlap with a flintlock, a flintlock muzzloader type thing.
• 32:15
  Speaker 6: The weather there is it's it's a little on the
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: warm side and it's a lot of invasive plants there,
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: so it's really going to be like hunt the edges
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: of the cover because it's so thick you can't really
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: get into it. Even if you got into it, it
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: would be literally sitting under tunnels of brush. But I'm
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: pretty excited. There's a lot of deer showing up on
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: camera there. We got some permission on some just knock
• 32:40
  Speaker 6: on door stuff kind of kind of thing, and there's
• 32:42
  Speaker 6: a couple pieces of public that we've actually found some
• 32:45
  Speaker 6: pretty decent bears on. In fact, we were there last
• 32:49
  Speaker 6: week and bumped into a mom with a sow with cubs.
• 32:53
  Speaker 6: Now in Jersey you can't shoot a sow that has
• 32:55
  Speaker 6: cubs with her, but you know, just kind of speaking
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: of bears in the area, it's kind of kind of
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: cool but made for a hairy situation.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: Are you gonna buy a Are you gonna buy a
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: white tail? Tag when you're there too, in case you
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: run across on.
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the cool thing is is.
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: When you buy your bowl license for Jersey, you get
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: a buck and a dough tag right away. It's a
• 33:17
  Speaker 6: pretty inexpensive tag, and the bear permits are like two
• 33:20
  Speaker 6: bucks apiece for non residents. They don't they want to
• 33:25
  Speaker 6: then the bear hurts, So it should be a pretty
• 33:28
  Speaker 6: fun hunt, you know. And as far as deer goes.
• 33:32
  Speaker 6: These farmers that we knocked on, we're like, please shoot
• 33:34
  Speaker 6: dear if you have an opportunity, like we like, have
• 33:37
  Speaker 6: fun trying to kill a bear. But if you have
• 33:39
  Speaker 6: the opportunity, like police harvest the deer because it's a
• 33:42
  Speaker 6: they do some pretty serious damage on these farms.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: So so with that in mind, kind of an opportunistic
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: hunt where it's like, Okay, if a bear comes through,
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be able to shoot a bear. If a
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: dough or a buck comes by, I'm gonna be ready
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: to go. Does that change how you're anying on setting
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: up to some regard, I mean, the edge of habitat
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: sounds like a great spot for setting up for a
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: deer too. Is that kind of what's in your mind?
• 34:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it seems like the bears and the deer are
• 34:10
  Speaker 6: using kind of the same because everything, like I said,
• 34:12
  Speaker 6: everything's so tight. The bears are a little bit more
• 34:15
  Speaker 6: prone to going through that, like the thick stuff, but
• 34:18
  Speaker 6: a lot of the deer are getting funneled through any
• 34:20
  Speaker 6: little shoots that come out of the woods there. They're
• 34:24
  Speaker 6: using old logging roads a lot on these farms. There's
• 34:28
  Speaker 6: a lot of I've noticed there's a lot of like
• 34:31
  Speaker 6: those old fence line rock piles that mark the border,
• 34:35
  Speaker 6: and if there's any low spot, the deer crossing over
• 34:37
  Speaker 6: that stuff. So that's I'm I'm hoping there's a couple
• 34:40
  Speaker 6: spots like that that I'm hoping to get to hunt,
• 34:43
  Speaker 6: you know, just kind of pinch points like that fence lines.
• 34:46
  Speaker 6: They've been crossing a lot of that kind of stuff.
• 34:48
  Speaker 6: So looking looking forward to just kind of whatever comes first. Man,
• 34:53
  Speaker 6: I'm not going to be I'm not going to be picky.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: I love it so looping back to Pennsylvania with the
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: lack of acorn production on the mountaintops, I mean, I
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: know you have a lot of experience hunting that type
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: of terrain. For someone that's struggling right now and looking
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: into the next week, knowing that if you can find
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: a tree for you know, dropping some acorns, like what
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: is what would you tell someone that's like, hey, man,
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: I have a couple of days off next week and
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: I know we're quote unquote creeping into the lull and
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: there hasn't been much activity on my cameras. What would
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: be your suggestion to that type of person and what's
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: key in on?
• 35:29
  Speaker 6: So there are there are acorns in places, they're just
• 35:34
  Speaker 6: really not up high and they're very isolated. So if
• 35:37
  Speaker 6: you can find the acorns or beech nuts or something
• 35:41
  Speaker 6: like that, I know, very stereotypically it's like hunt the
• 35:45
  Speaker 6: upper third of the of the hills or whatever. I'm
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: not really finding that. I'm finding that deer are in
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: the lower quarter of the hills at the current moment.
• 35:55
  Speaker 6: So if you can find a thermal that that will
• 35:59
  Speaker 6: they're really you know, the wind is not happening right now.
• 36:02
  Speaker 6: Normally you have a lot of wind right now too,
• 36:04
  Speaker 6: but everything is very thermal based. So if you can
• 36:07
  Speaker 6: find a creek that you can get a longer stretch
• 36:10
  Speaker 6: from a downward thermal and make it more predictable for
• 36:13
  Speaker 6: yourself and find something that's like halfway or lower up
• 36:17
  Speaker 6: the hill that's producing some kind of nuts, or if
• 36:19
  Speaker 6: you can find a brows line where they're eating um,
• 36:23
  Speaker 6: some kind of buck brush, or if there's berries still
• 36:27
  Speaker 6: around stuff like that light food sources. Or if you
• 36:31
  Speaker 6: can find an acorn tree down in a bottom like
• 36:33
  Speaker 6: that and focus on deer that are coming up and
• 36:35
  Speaker 6: down to feed on that that those acorns that would
• 36:39
  Speaker 6: be pretty clutch.
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: But the water is pretty important.
• 36:42
  Speaker 6: I've been seeing a lot of deer in that area,
• 36:45
  Speaker 6: and I think it's the areas that you know still
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: have creeks that are spring fed, they have like a
• 36:51
  Speaker 6: little trickle, and even that is attractive right now.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: So those are some key things. And so basically that
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: lower quarter is where I assume you're finding most more
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: signed than what you typically would find up top. So
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: it seems like it might be a benefit to some
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: regard from based off what you're saying is like you
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: can almost rule out some of the tops or upper
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: thirds where people traditionally have hunted and focus more lower.
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah right now.
• 37:15
  Speaker 6: I mean I've even spent some time just kind of
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: driving around and.
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: If there's service roads that are open and stuff.
• 37:21
  Speaker 6: PA doesn't the game Commission actually in Pennsylvania puts out
• 37:25
  Speaker 6: seasonal roads. I think on X has some marked, but
• 37:29
  Speaker 6: you can actually find them on their like interactive web
• 37:31
  Speaker 6: page and find where the seasonal roads are. They could
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: drive on them because it's there are occasionally areas where
• 37:38
  Speaker 6: they're coming out on tops like that.
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: But if you've got something that goes through.
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: A bottom that you can drive and kind of just
• 37:44
  Speaker 6: observe without being too invasive, that's been really helpful. I've
• 37:48
  Speaker 6: done that a couple times, and it's fun to do
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: with the family too, like let's count the deer kind
• 37:52
  Speaker 6: of thing, you know.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think those are some really key pieces there.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: And so, you know, looking at all things considered the weather,
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: the time of year, what do you anticipate the next
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: seven days to be as far as potential hunting opportunity
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: On a scale one to ten.
• 38:12
  Speaker 6: I would say it's probably about a six right now,
• 38:15
  Speaker 6: other than we're going to have a first cold snap
• 38:19
  Speaker 6: on Friday morning. We're supposed to get our first forty
• 38:22
  Speaker 6: degree morning, which is pretty historically here. That's one of
• 38:28
  Speaker 6: the times where you'll get bucks and any deer really, like,
• 38:32
  Speaker 6: if you're looking for any deer, that's one of the
• 38:34
  Speaker 6: times where you do get some movement up top, even
• 38:37
  Speaker 6: if it's dry. I've had years where you have, like
• 38:40
  Speaker 6: I mean, it's going to be eighty five degrees today
• 38:44
  Speaker 6: and then it's going to be high seventies to mid
• 38:47
  Speaker 6: eighties until Thursday, and then we start to have a
• 38:50
  Speaker 6: little bit of a drop. So I've seen that a
• 38:53
  Speaker 6: couple of times, where that very first cold front you'll
• 38:56
  Speaker 6: get some stuff moving in to just kind of see
• 38:58
  Speaker 6: what's going on. As far as as like I said,
• 39:01
  Speaker 6: as far as tops go, there's really not a lot
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: of sign happening right now, so you could key on
• 39:07
  Speaker 6: some of your good spots probably towards the end of
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: the week here. I think it's kind of pretty trendy
• 39:13
  Speaker 6: for the whole for these you know, a couple of
• 39:15
  Speaker 6: states like Jersey, PA, Delaware, kind of the same weather
• 39:18
  Speaker 6: pattern with a little bit of variance. But I think
• 39:22
  Speaker 6: that would probably be something you could do. Is kind
• 39:25
  Speaker 6: of get I wouldn't go to your best spot that day,
• 39:28
  Speaker 6: but you could get close to the edge of it
• 39:30
  Speaker 6: and actually maybe catch something or learn something that you'll
• 39:34
  Speaker 6: you'll want to use later on towards maybe the twentieth
• 39:37
  Speaker 6: of October.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: I love it. Yeah, that's I appreciate the out East report.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: I know you have your ear to the ground, and
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: I really wish you the best of luck this season,
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: and I hope the New Jersey Hut is going to
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: be I mean, you've got three tags in your pocket.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: Anything can happen.
• 39:54
  Speaker 6: I'm excited, man, I have, like, I have twelve deer
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: tags this year, so I'm judged seriously. Yeah, a PA
• 40:01
  Speaker 6: put out quite a few tags this year. We have
• 40:04
  Speaker 6: a pretty cool program too. In specific units they might
• 40:09
  Speaker 6: put out like, for example, the Special REGs area they
• 40:13
  Speaker 6: put out seventy thousand dough tags a year, and then
• 40:16
  Speaker 6: inside some of those areas that haven't even higher density,
• 40:20
  Speaker 6: they put out Deer Management Assistance Program tags. And some
• 40:26
  Speaker 6: of those A lot of those are like state forests
• 40:29
  Speaker 6: and that kind of thing on areas like that, and
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: those are above and beyond your tag allotment. They're a
• 40:35
  Speaker 6: little bit they're like three dollars more or something like that.
• 40:38
  Speaker 6: Nothing crazy, But I bought a couple of those for
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: up north because I like to use those when for
• 40:44
  Speaker 6: the PA rifle season. It's pretty fun to just kind
• 40:46
  Speaker 6: of walk around and you know, last year we had
• 40:49
  Speaker 6: snow for that kind of thing. So it's kind of
• 40:51
  Speaker 6: kind of fun to do that kind of thing.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Awesome, man, Well, good luck, good luck the rest of season.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: Appreciate you ouping on here and give an any time report.
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: Thank you.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: We have Zach Kaim who is now part of the
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: two hundred inch club because you have the shirt to
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: prove it.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: That's right, it's coming man, good good, how about you.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: It's going great man. I ran across your post here
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: and you tagged a magnificent white tail and you had
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: a bunch of history with this deer, and let's just
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: dive right into it. How kind of like the condensed
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: version of the multiple years of history and then how
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: it ultimately came together, you know, really quick here in Ohio.
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 41:30
  Speaker 7: Yeah, So in twenty twenty two, this buck was on
• 41:34
  Speaker 7: my radar. I knew he wasn't a shooter at this point,
• 41:37
  Speaker 7: but I actually have a phone video of him walking
• 41:40
  Speaker 7: underneath my tree stand in November. Fast forward to the
• 41:46
  Speaker 7: next season. He ballooned into like a mid one sixties
• 41:52
  Speaker 7: class buck as a four year old, and I ended
• 41:56
  Speaker 7: up missing him. I misarranged him. He was a little
• 42:00
  Speaker 7: bit further than I thought he was. I thought I
• 42:02
  Speaker 7: knew how far he was, and he was just a
• 42:04
  Speaker 7: little bit further and so so that was pretty brutal,
• 42:08
  Speaker 7: I thought. But then it got worse because I did
• 42:11
  Speaker 7: the same thing the next year, which would have been
• 42:14
  Speaker 7: this past season, when he was a five year old.
• 42:16
  Speaker 7: He would have been I actually have his match set
• 42:19
  Speaker 7: from last year. He would have been about a one
• 42:22
  Speaker 7: hundred and ninety eight inch buck depending on his spread.
• 42:27
  Speaker 7: So that and I had several other encounters with him
• 42:31
  Speaker 7: last year too. He caught me drawing back on him
• 42:34
  Speaker 7: at thirty yards at one point. There was another time
• 42:38
  Speaker 7: he was like fifty yards over the property line during
• 42:42
  Speaker 7: gun season.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: Obviously he didn't take.
• 42:45
  Speaker 7: That shot, and so he was just Yeah, he was
• 42:49
  Speaker 7: teasing me the last few years. But then then yeah,
• 42:54
  Speaker 7: fast forward to this year, it was kind of hard
• 42:58
  Speaker 7: to tell how big he was. His rack changed slightly,
• 43:03
  Speaker 7: he lost a decent side drop time, but he did
• 43:06
  Speaker 7: look like he got he put on some inches. But
• 43:10
  Speaker 7: I was I was estimating him probably in the one nineties.
• 43:15
  Speaker 7: But yeah, I tried to trade to tried to stay
• 43:18
  Speaker 7: out of his core area. He actually didn't really live
• 43:22
  Speaker 7: on our farm, or he never really bettered on our farm.
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: I should say.
• 43:27
  Speaker 7: Nine percent of the time, I'd say he bettered on
• 43:29
  Speaker 7: the one of the neighbors.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: And so.
• 43:33
  Speaker 7: Fast forward to opening day this year, we had kind
• 43:37
  Speaker 7: of tried to stay out of his area with choke
• 43:40
  Speaker 7: cameras and whatnot, just we have enough history now, we
• 43:43
  Speaker 7: kind of have an idea of what's going on, and
• 43:48
  Speaker 7: he would be kind of camera shy if he saw
• 43:50
  Speaker 7: a camera. And so opening day, he actually did walk
• 43:55
  Speaker 7: past one of the cameras that we had down there
• 44:00
  Speaker 7: in his area, and he was actually walking onto our
• 44:03
  Speaker 7: farm just before daylight, which was highly unusual. I talked
• 44:08
  Speaker 7: to my dad about it that morning. We're both like
• 44:11
  Speaker 7: that that actually might be the first time ever that
• 44:14
  Speaker 7: he was walking onto our farm in the morning that
• 44:17
  Speaker 7: closed to daylight.
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: And so so he.
• 44:20
  Speaker 7: Was headed there's a small there's a small creek drainage
• 44:23
  Speaker 7: that goes up into the interior of a cornfield. It's
• 44:28
  Speaker 7: like a seventy five yard wide strip of woods. And
• 44:31
  Speaker 7: so we're talking about it, and it's like, well, if
• 44:34
  Speaker 7: he is better than hours, like he could have easily
• 44:37
  Speaker 7: went back over to the neighbors, but if he is
• 44:39
  Speaker 7: better than hours, that's where he's going to be. Because
• 44:42
  Speaker 7: we knew, we knew deer beded in there before, h
• 44:45
  Speaker 7: just never him. But so I actually set up a
• 44:49
  Speaker 7: tree stand this summer thinking it would be more of
• 44:53
  Speaker 7: a rut spot, just because it's kind of in a
• 44:56
  Speaker 7: travel corridor, and wh in there, snuck in there and set up,
• 45:01
  Speaker 7: and seven o'clock here he comes, and yeah, the rest
• 45:07
  Speaker 7: is history.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: That's that's amazing. And so how many times do you
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: think this deer cheated death? Because obviously you cheated death
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: of you multiple times, and then how many other times
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: have happened that that you're not well?
• 45:22
  Speaker 7: The crazy thing is so like a six year old buck,
• 45:24
  Speaker 7: a lot of times when you skid him out, you'll
• 45:26
  Speaker 7: see your old wounds and stuff.
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: And we didn't really find anything.
• 45:31
  Speaker 7: And I know he was a popular year because even
• 45:35
  Speaker 7: before this, but I've had six different neighbors contact me
• 45:39
  Speaker 7: about having pictures of them, and some of them are
• 45:41
  Speaker 7: like a mile away. So how how he didn't die
• 45:46
  Speaker 7: ever is amazing.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: But that's crazy, so going, so you just make sure
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: I understand. So you guys had intell of I'm opening
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: morning going in and betting on you guys, and then
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: it was that evening when he went in there and
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: hunted him to try to go back out where he's
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: going to feed that evening.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: Is that right?
• 46:04
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know that it was necessarily where he
• 46:06
  Speaker 7: was trying to go to feed. I mean there's right now,
• 46:09
  Speaker 7: at least where we're a lot of red oaks are dropping,
• 46:12
  Speaker 7: so there's, you know, plenty of acorns. I kind of
• 46:16
  Speaker 7: assume he was coming to acorns. I was actually sitting
• 46:20
  Speaker 7: in a red oak, like that's the tree I was
• 46:22
  Speaker 7: sitting in. I got pretty tight to where I thought
• 46:26
  Speaker 7: he was bedded, so I think he literally had just
• 46:30
  Speaker 7: within a couple hundred yards. I think he had just
• 46:33
  Speaker 7: gotten out of bed and was making one of his
• 46:35
  Speaker 7: first scrapes of the evening.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: Probably what was that like seeing him, Like, oh my gosh,
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: just plants coming together. I've screwed up on this deer
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: in the past, and he had come man like it's
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: about to happen.
• 46:50
  Speaker 7: Honestly, at that point, like I definitely had buck fever,
• 46:54
  Speaker 7: but it was more of like a like a dude,
• 46:57
  Speaker 7: let's just get this over with, Like I don't I
• 47:01
  Speaker 7: don't have time to like sit here and look at
• 47:03
  Speaker 7: his antlers, Like let's just lock in here and try
• 47:06
  Speaker 7: to get this over with, Like, let's not go through
• 47:08
  Speaker 7: the bs again. I was so tired of that, that
• 47:13
  Speaker 7: feeling of screwing it up.
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: So yeah, when I first.
• 47:17
  Speaker 7: Seen him, I knew immediately which bucket was. I seen
• 47:20
  Speaker 7: that flyer off of his G two and I told myself, Okay,
• 47:24
  Speaker 7: we're not going to look at the antlers anymore. Try
• 47:28
  Speaker 7: to limit the buck fever.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: But yeah, so that's and so you said last year
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: he would have been in the nineties, is you know,
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: estimating with the spread? What did he what did he
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: end up taping out to. I know a lot of
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: people don't care, but I do, so I'm going to
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: ask you. Yeah, because he's a giant. Yeah, he is
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: a giant. He taped out to two thirteen and two eighth. Wow,
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: so pretty darn good jump. Yeah, and yeah, I think
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: I think the last two seasons he jumped twenty to
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: twenty five inches both years.
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: So yeah, which we had anomaly. We had a really wet.
• 48:03
  Speaker 7: Spring this year, which I've heard is good for antler groove.
• 48:07
  Speaker 7: But whether whether that's the case or not, he grew
• 48:11
  Speaker 7: a lot. He grew more than I thought I thought
• 48:13
  Speaker 7: he'd be in the one nineties. This year he blew
• 48:16
  Speaker 7: that out of the water.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: And what was it like when you put your hands
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: on him finally, like after all the years of history
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: and everything else, Like was there a sense of like
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: the story's over now? Or or was it rejoiced right right.
• 48:29
  Speaker 7: When I seeing it, Like right when I walked up
• 48:32
  Speaker 7: to him, like a sense of relief, very relieved.
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: I was by myself.
• 48:37
  Speaker 7: I nelt down, said a little prayer, thank God for
• 48:43
  Speaker 7: letting me finally get him, lay my hands on him.
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: And so yeah, I was just very relieved and very grateful.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: I would say, yeah, yeah, that's awesome. Congratulations. So for
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: let's let's pretend you didn't shoot this buck and it's
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: October eighth, and you're looking over the next seven days.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: What would you what would you tell yourself or what
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: would you tell someone that that might be struggling a
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: little bit or trying to get together a game plan.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: Maybe they know of something of a buck that's kind
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: of hanging around the area. And now we're getting into,
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: you know, the the first quarter of October and you know,
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: creeping deeper into the month. What what would you tell
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: them to pay attention to, at least in our area.
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  Speaker 7: I would say, acorns, acorns and water, probably because it
• 49:26
  Speaker 7: was it's been really dry here in Ohio where we're at,
• 49:30
  Speaker 7: Like it's only rained a couple of times in the past,
• 49:35
  Speaker 7: I don't know, a month and a half or more.
• 49:38
  Speaker 7: So acorns and water and uh, like you know, seemingly,
• 49:44
  Speaker 7: you know, the October October lil is kind of like
• 49:48
  Speaker 7: around that time frame or around this timeframe. So but
• 49:52
  Speaker 7: I generally try to just look for hot time. Like
• 49:55
  Speaker 7: there's right now where we're at, there's so many acorns
• 49:57
  Speaker 7: dropping that it would be hard to like hee in
• 49:59
  Speaker 7: on a specific tree that you should hunt. But if
• 50:04
  Speaker 7: you can find a white oak, at least on our farms,
• 50:06
  Speaker 7: there's not a lot of white oaks, so I would
• 50:11
  Speaker 7: assume they are preferring the white oaks, But try to
• 50:15
  Speaker 7: find a white oak. Try to get tight to betting
• 50:19
  Speaker 7: would be my biggest tip, height to betting.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: Find some white oaks. And when you mentioned hot sign,
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: you know, I think a lot of people could potentially
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: confuse that, what do you if you could paint real quickly,
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: what is hot sign in your mind that gets you
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: excited versus just some general dear sign.
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: Scrapes?
• 50:38
  Speaker 7: Actually, when this buck came in, which you know it's
• 50:42
  Speaker 7: it was opening day, which was September twenty seventh, and
• 50:45
  Speaker 7: he he came in. The first thing he did was
• 50:47
  Speaker 7: make a scrape at twenty five yards that he's already
• 50:50
  Speaker 7: you know, doing buck stuff.
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: So if you can find the scrape, and yeah, call
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: me crazy.
• 50:56
  Speaker 7: But the week before season actually I went out and
• 51:00
  Speaker 7: I made a couple of mock drapes here and there,
• 51:03
  Speaker 7: just to see if you would potentially hit those early seasons,
• 51:08
  Speaker 7: because with our history of the deer, we kind of
• 51:11
  Speaker 7: knew he would be around early season, like early early,
• 51:15
  Speaker 7: and then he kind of disappeared, like mid October into
• 51:19
  Speaker 7: the rut, and then it would come back late season.
• 51:23
  Speaker 7: So I was really hoping I would get him before
• 51:24
  Speaker 7: he leaves because I was afraid somebody else would shoot him.
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's it. Look, you made it happen. So
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: if you had to put a scale one to ten
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: for the next seven days, what would you put at ten? Bean?
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: Best week ever? One bean? I think I'm gonna seen
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: it out.
• 51:42
  Speaker 7: I definitely wouldn't sit it out. Like the weather conditions
• 51:47
  Speaker 7: were not ideal for opening day. I mean it was
• 51:50
  Speaker 7: eighty degrees, so I don't. Yeah, I mean I think
• 51:55
  Speaker 7: it just depends on Yeah, it can very soil like
• 52:00
  Speaker 7: if if you know where a year is betting, Uh,
• 52:04
  Speaker 7: nothing would keep me from going hunting, no matter the
• 52:07
  Speaker 7: conditions or time of the year. So I mean, for me,
• 52:11
  Speaker 7: if I was still hunting this buck and you asked
• 52:14
  Speaker 7: me that question, I'd give it like a six or seven.
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: Probably not.
• 52:20
  Speaker 7: It's not like perfect conditions, so it's not a ten,
• 52:23
  Speaker 7: but it's also not a one, so somewhere in the middle.
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: Fair enough, fair enough. Well, yeah, congratulations sac on an
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: incredible deer and I putting a ribbon on the top
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: after you know, multiple years of history. That's that's really special.
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: I hope you have been enjoying the moment and congrats
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: once again.
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: Oh I've been thank you, Thank you very much.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: There you guys have it. Hope you guys have a
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: great week. We're going to see you next week here
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: for Reughfresh. And with this front, I have an anticipation
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: that there's going to be a variety of big bucks
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: that connect with hunters and their plant come together. So
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: I hope you guys tune in next week on Reugh Fresh.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: We'll see you then.