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Friday Night Live: #5 Ohio State Buckeyes vs. #14 Iowa Hawkeyes Preview · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Hello everybody. Welcome to the Buckeye Weekly Podcast. I'm Tony
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  Speaker 1: Gerdeman here as always with Tom or Tom. How's it going?
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  Speaker 2: Tony, we got to do the Ohio State team arrival
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  Speaker 2: just a few hours ago and boy, of all the
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  Speaker 2: team arrivals we have been at, that was one of
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  Speaker 2: the more fun ones where they got their 35, 40
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  Speaker 2: minutes early and also came into an entrance that everyone
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  Speaker 2: was at the wrong entrance. And we went, Oh no.
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  Speaker 2: And went running through the hotel during the middle of
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  Speaker 2: the live stream.
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  Speaker 1: Like no police, right? It was just a bus that
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  Speaker 1: showed up. I'm like, Hey.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. There was no, there was no police escort. No,
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  Speaker 2: it was very, very different. Poor, poor Jack Mileti is
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  Speaker 2: here with us and he's like just getting caught up
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  Speaker 2: on how all this stuff is going. And it was,
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  Speaker 2: The last time in Texas, it was like, well, don't worry.
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  Speaker 2: They're not usually two-hour shows because normally they don't show
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  Speaker 2: up an hour late. And then this one was like, well,
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  Speaker 2: normally we have a little more notice than this.
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  Speaker 1: But you combine the two shows, and now you've got
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  Speaker 1: your average show.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 1: 30 minutes of prep and then five minutes of action
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  Speaker 1: and then whatever. But we made it through. We talked
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  Speaker 1: with Ryan Day. He wants a fast start for the
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  Speaker 1: Buckeyes and basically a fast game. Not a fast game
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  Speaker 1: like Kirk Ferentz wants a fast game. He wants some speed,
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  Speaker 1: some up-tempo stuff, and to perhaps keep attacking, which should
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  Speaker 1: be what fans want to hear because you've heard the crying,
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  Speaker 1: not the crying, but the cries of don't play into
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  Speaker 1: Iowa's hand, don't play Iowa's game. It's very much easier
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  Speaker 1: said than done when you get to Iowa and they
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  Speaker 1: have this way of doing these things, but the intent
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  Speaker 1: will be to get on them early and it's down
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  Speaker 1: for as long as they need. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And you get the sense that they are going to be,
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  Speaker 2: you know, that they kind of understand the mission here
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  Speaker 2: and understand what they have to do and understand what
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  Speaker 2: they're looking to do. Because this is an Ohio State
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  Speaker 2: team that feels like, as you've sort of gone through
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  Speaker 2: the last few weeks, it feels like they're starting to
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  Speaker 2: figure out their identity. And Arthur Smith is sort of
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  Speaker 2: starting to figure things out as well. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And seeing what works well, how far you can go
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  Speaker 1: with the passing game as it is, as sort of
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  Speaker 1: part of the running game, but also getting out of
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  Speaker 1: the running game what you can and figuring out what
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  Speaker 1: is best. They started out a bunch of zone and
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  Speaker 1: have become more and more gap scheme and running those
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  Speaker 1: sorts of things and trying through all of this to
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  Speaker 1: find some explosion in the running game. And the frustrating
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  Speaker 1: thing is I think They showed some in the first game.
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  Speaker 1: They showed a little bit in the second game, and
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  Speaker 1: they have not shown any since those two games. And
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  Speaker 1: you shouldn't be regressing now that the schedule... You should
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  Speaker 1: not be regressing against Kent State and Illinois, especially what
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  Speaker 1: we've seen happen to Illinois' run defense. That being said, Tom,
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  Speaker 1: they've run well enough to get the jobs done. They've
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  Speaker 1: run well enough to be 4-0 this year.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But they're not.
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  Speaker 2: But they're not, and... it feels like the natural inclination
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  Speaker 2: is to look at what Ryan Day is talking about
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  Speaker 2: with the running game, and that's, boy, they wish they
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  Speaker 2: were more explosive. And yes, 100%, strong agree. But at
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  Speaker 2: the same time, you go back and watch all these games,
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  Speaker 2: go back and watch the first half of the Texas game,
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  Speaker 2: they're running the ball reasonably. I mean, it feels like
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot of sixes and eights in there in
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  Speaker 2: terms of pick running the ball. And it felt like
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  Speaker 2: you saw that at times there were a lot of
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  Speaker 2: sort of five, six-yard rushes against Illinois last week. If
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  Speaker 2: they can do that again this week, then, you know,
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  Speaker 2: that's probably going to be more than enough to get
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  Speaker 2: things going.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so. And, again, that'll get the job done. Five, six, seven,
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  Speaker 1: eight yards. The average for Bo Jackson and Jacoby Jackson
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  Speaker 1: is just fine. Now, when you take out the MAAC games,
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  Speaker 1: Bo Jackson's average, I think, is around four yards a carry.
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  Speaker 2: You want more than that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. they're not going to play a defense like Texas
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  Speaker 1: is every week, but you know, you, the, the bold
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  Speaker 1: prediction that we went with both you, I should not,
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  Speaker 1: should not say we, the bold prediction that I allowed
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  Speaker 1: to be made by Tom was five yards per carry
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  Speaker 1: and a touchdown rush for Bo Jackson. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's not great. He hasn't done it against,
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  Speaker 2: he's done either one of those against a power conference opponent. So,
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  Speaker 2: that's kind of, it's not like you're predicting him to
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  Speaker 2: do something he's never done, but you're predicting him to
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  Speaker 2: do something he hasn't done this season, and that's kind
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  Speaker 2: of the necessary next step. You've got to be able
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  Speaker 2: to run the ball for five yards a carry with
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  Speaker 2: your running back, because if you can pop a big one,
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  Speaker 2: that'll help a lot to get to. Now, the inability
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  Speaker 2: to pop a big one has been kind of a
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  Speaker 2: recurring theme with this running back room the whole season,
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  Speaker 2: even going back to the spring.
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  Speaker 1: And if he does pop a big one, there goes
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  Speaker 1: your five yards per carry. You should be good with that. Yes, yes.
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  Speaker 1: He is due.
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  Speaker 2: He is overdue.
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  Speaker 1: And Ryan Day has been... You've seen him on the
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  Speaker 1: sideline kind of upset at a couple of plays that
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  Speaker 1: have not hit. The Bo Jackson toss to the boundary
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  Speaker 1: being one of those. But we'll see how it goes.
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  Speaker 1: Iowa's run defense is okay.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fine. It's not world-shattering like it has been
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  Speaker 2: at times in the past. The offense this year is...
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  Speaker 2: Pretty good by Iowa standards, but not overwhelming in any area.
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  Speaker 2: The defense has been pretty good, but gave up a
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  Speaker 2: couple hundred-yard receivers against Michigan last week, which I don't
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  Speaker 2: know how that translates. It feels like you need to
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  Speaker 2: make the imperial measurement to metric. I don't know what
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  Speaker 2: the conversion rate is from Michigan wide receiver to Ohio
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  Speaker 2: State wide receiver.
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  Speaker 1: 280 yards passing for Bryce Underwood, you multiply that by 2.2?
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  Speaker 1: or something, and that's 640 yards passing for Julian Sane.
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you this, 600 yards passing for Julian Sane
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  Speaker 1: would not be a good thing, because that feels like
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  Speaker 1: catching up.
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  Speaker 2: 400 is fine. I've got to tell you, 600 yards passing,
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  Speaker 2: if you're getting 600 yards passing, I feel like that
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  Speaker 2: might be one of the things where it goes from
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  Speaker 2: If you don't throw at all, it's either very good
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  Speaker 2: or very bad. If you throw in the middle, it's
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  Speaker 2: probably good, and it gets good, and then at some
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  Speaker 2: point it's like, that's too many throws.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like Dwayne Haskins against Purdue.
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  Speaker 2: Uh-huh, yeah. And that's really more, I look at that,
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  Speaker 2: not necessarily in terms of yards, but in terms of
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  Speaker 2: passing attempts. If you're throwing the ball, if Ohio State's
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  Speaker 2: throwing the ball 50 times at any point this season,
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  Speaker 2: that's probably bad news.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, certainly for the defense. I almost said I wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: expect that.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't.
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  Speaker 1: You shouldn't expect 50 passes in a game where we're
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  Speaker 1: digressing greatly. But there's going to be some situations where
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  Speaker 1: they're going to have to score some points. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know how many points they're going to have to score
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  Speaker 1: in this one. I think mid-20s gets it done. Maybe 20s.
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  Speaker 2: If you get to 21, you've got a better than
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  Speaker 2: 50-50 chance to get to win. And if you get
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  Speaker 2: it to 24-27, you've got probably about an 80-20 chance
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  Speaker 2: to win and maybe better than that. Unless you do
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  Speaker 2: what Michigan did last week, which is You have a
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  Speaker 2: turnover or two. You give up a kick return for
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  Speaker 2: a touchdown. You have to not play into Iowa's hands
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  Speaker 2: in this game.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so frustrating. For the Michigan fans, it was frustrating.
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  Speaker 1: You've done all of the things, and you still lose,
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  Speaker 1: and now you've got to react to it, which....
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  Speaker 2: We were listening to a podcast reacting to it on
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  Speaker 2: the way here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Those darn refs, man. They just.
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  Speaker 1: But... We may say some more things about the refs tomorrow.
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  Speaker 1: Who knows how things go.
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  Speaker 2: But with these Iowa conspiracies. We don't tend to say
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  Speaker 2: those things about the refs.
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  Speaker 1: Devin Paul says, hey, Tom, Tony, how's it going? Go Bucs. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: it is going well. Boy, Iowa City, the campus area
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  Speaker 1: is surprisingly impressive. It's got some Michigan State water and
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  Speaker 1: wilderness a little bit to it and ravines. But– Also just,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a nice little college town area. Enjoy it
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  Speaker 1: so far.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Iowa City is, I think, one of the
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  Speaker 2: real underrated Big Ten campuses and Big Ten communities where
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  Speaker 2: you think of, you know, beautiful Big Ten campus and
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  Speaker 2: you think about Michigan State in the fall or, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Oregon now or, you know, there's Washington out on Lake Washington. Like,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there's some really.
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  Speaker 1: Wisconsin in between the water.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, out on the lake.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot of Big Ten campuses that you think
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  Speaker 2: of like, oh man, that's a really, really memorable or
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  Speaker 2: pretty one. And Iowa City, it's one that people don't
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  Speaker 2: talk about a lot. But every time I come here,
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  Speaker 2: this is the third time I've been here, and every
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  Speaker 2: time I come here, I'm like, I like this place.
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  Speaker 2: It's a nice campus. Kinnick is a very nice stadium.
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  Speaker 2: Like it really, really, it's like a really classic big
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  Speaker 2: 10 stadium reminds me. If you remember when we were
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  Speaker 2: at Illinois last year, we talked about how we were
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  Speaker 2: both just like over, just like couldn't believe how nice
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  Speaker 2: the stadium in Illinois was like this really classic big
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  Speaker 2: 10 stadium that we'd updated really nicely. Kinnick's kind of
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  Speaker 2: the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Brick is the way to go. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You know, like we saw it at DKR in Texas.
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  Speaker 2: Brick holds up.
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  Speaker 1: I must admit.
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  Speaker 2: Yep. Jordan says, I know playing Iowa at Kinnick is different.
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  Speaker 2: So what, in your opinion, would be an OSU convincing win?
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  Speaker 2: Any score is good? I mean, I think this is
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  Speaker 2: one where if Ohio State won by three points, Ryan
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  Speaker 2: Day would probably say, deep exhale, great, move on with life.
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  Speaker 2: If they win by a couple scores, I think that's
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  Speaker 2: a really solid win. I know everyone wants them to
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  Speaker 2: win by 30. Could that happen? Sure, it could happen.
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  Speaker 2: Lots of stuff could happen. If they win by 10 points,
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  Speaker 2: if they win by 14 points, that would be a
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  Speaker 2: very convincing win. Because these games are generally not high-scoring
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  Speaker 2: enough where it's like they should win by four scores. Okay, well,
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  Speaker 2: if you're getting into the mid-20s, you better shut the
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  Speaker 2: opponent out.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like with a comfortable versus blowout, you're always
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  Speaker 1: up in Kinnick by two scores.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: There's never a danger of, oh, this drive could tie
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  Speaker 1: it up or worse. So I think as long as
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  Speaker 1: you keep Iowa at arm's length and a little bit
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  Speaker 1: more than, yeah, just be comfortable. And if it's a
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  Speaker 1: three-point win, Ryan Day is going to come out and say,
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  Speaker 1: I told you it was going to be a fourth-quarter game.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And we won. And, you know, did we win?
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Did we win?
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  Speaker 2: And while we were at the team hotel earlier tonight,
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  Speaker 2: there was a moment, if you watch the live stream,
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  Speaker 2: you've already seen and heard this, but there was a
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  Speaker 2: moment where we were standing at the front of the
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  Speaker 2: hotel and then someone from the hotel came in and
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  Speaker 2: told all the assembled media, Oh yes, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: they're going in, they're going to be coming in and
• 11:24
  Speaker 2: completely other side of the hotel in about five minutes.
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  Speaker 2: And we all went, ah, and then ran, ran through
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  Speaker 2: the hotel, uh, streaming everything live. And as we're going through,
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  Speaker 2: they had signs there and the signs there said, win
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  Speaker 2: the fourth quarter. That's the message to the team, win
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  Speaker 2: the fourth quarter. So that's, uh, that I think tells
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  Speaker 2: you a little bit about what the, uh, what the
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  Speaker 2: mindset is not, uh, Let's make this a four-quarter game.
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  Speaker 2: It's win the fourth quarter.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not trying to make something a fourth-quarter game.
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  Speaker 1: You just understand that this is probably going to be
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  Speaker 1: a four-quarter game.
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  Speaker 2: If necessary, be prepared to win a four-quarter game. Devin
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: Paul says, Tom, did you buy shot classes from Buc-ee's
• 11:59
  Speaker 2: for Tony?
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: I want the crystal cow skull.
• 12:04
  Speaker 2: The bull skull. Was that in the video, or did
• 12:07
  Speaker 2: we just.
• 12:07
  Speaker 1: Talk about that? My dream journal, you've seen it. It's
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  Speaker 1: like $ 300 or so, $ 500.
• 12:15
  Speaker 2: We need to do a story on the most expensive
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: items in Bucky's. We talked about that. We'll do that
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  Speaker 2: at some point.
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  Speaker 1: Also, the most calories.
• 12:24
  Speaker 2: Oh, man. That is going to be... Most added sugar. Man,
• 12:32
  Speaker 2: the beaver nuggets. They're good, but oh, man.
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: It's all sugar.
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: And if you've never had beaver nuggets, they taste like
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: Captain Crunch. That's exactly what they taste like. Yes, Bucky's
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: always a delight on a... And if you want to
• 12:45
  Speaker 2: see a stop at Buc-ee's, you can find that on
• 12:49
  Speaker 2: our YouTube channel, youtube.com slash at Buckeye Insiders. Posted a
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: video from there earlier today. Keith says that Fox has
• 12:57
  Speaker 2: removed Dave Portnoy and Barstool from Big Noon.
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: If that's true, I don't know what took them so
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: long because it's a complete credibility hit. I understand it's
• 13:07
  Speaker 1: an entertainment show, but you've got people up there who
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: are trying to be professional about it. And you've got
• 13:14
  Speaker 1: others who are not. And so you've got the whole
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: turn the punch bowl situation where you've got Urban, you've
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: got Mark Ingram and Rob Stone.
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  Speaker 2: Brady Quinn.
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  Speaker 1: Brady Quinn, Matt Liner, I think is still there. So
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  Speaker 1: they're trying to have this professional thing. And then out
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  Speaker 1: comes the barstool stuff.
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  Speaker 2: The monkey with the symbols.
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  Speaker 1: Right. And it's like, well, now for something completely different.
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  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's like when I spend the whole week
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: doing the scheme shows with our scheme guys. And it's like,
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: and now comes out Tony with the symbols. Clap, clap, clap, clap, clap.
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  Speaker 2: It's time for bold predictions. Yes, exactly. It is exactly
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  Speaker 2: like that.
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  Speaker 1: It's a little like that.
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  Speaker 2: Emily says, I definitely need to learn more about the
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: running back position. I feel like they've been good, but
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: I clearly don't know LOL. Yeah, go ahead, sir. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think that they haven't been good. It's just
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  Speaker 2: there's areas of the game where they're looking for more.
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  Speaker 2: The team is looking for more out of them.
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  Speaker 1: I think if you're not coming into this with expectations,
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  Speaker 1: you're just watching what they're doing, I think you're okay.
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  Speaker 1: But when you've come in with the expectations of what
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: Bo Jackson did last year, and last year he had, what,
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  Speaker 1: four 50-yard runs, and you know what he's capable of
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  Speaker 1: and you want more. But if you're just watching what
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  Speaker 1: they're doing in a vacuum, that sort of thing, it's like, oh, okay,
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  Speaker 1: six yards a carry, five, six yards a carry. That's
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  Speaker 1: what you want. And so you look at it like that.
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  Speaker 1: And the thing is, not since the first game have
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: they really been bolstering fake numbers. The numbers they're getting
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  Speaker 1: now are real because there are no big hits in there.
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  Speaker 1: So these are all earned yards at this point.
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  Speaker 2: Jake says, I just want to get in, score one
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  Speaker 2: more point than Iowa, and get out healthy. This is
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  Speaker 2: one game. I just don't care about style points. People
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  Speaker 2: will go insane if they win this game by one point.
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  Speaker 2: People will go insane. But objectively, right now, if you
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  Speaker 2: just do that, if you do that, you get in,
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  Speaker 2: you score one more point than Iowa does, you get
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  Speaker 2: out healthy, that gets you– you don't lose anything in
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  Speaker 2: terms of your national championship goals or big 10 championship goals.
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  Speaker 2: You don't lose a single thing. If that's what happens
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  Speaker 2: on Saturday, if.
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  Speaker 1: You go into an Iowa game looking for style points,
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  Speaker 1: it's like going to the dollar store, looking for a
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  Speaker 1: designer clothes. If you find something, there's somebody who had
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  Speaker 1: left it there by mistake.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That's not what that is designed for. Iowa football is
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  Speaker 1: not designed for style points. And if it happens great, congratulations,
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: that's a lottery ticket, but you can't go in expecting it.
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: Uh, Lou says we put say in on rollout since
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: it works so well for Michigan.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's interesting. And it did work well for Michigan.
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  Speaker 1: Some of those are just scrambles, but also I think
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  Speaker 1: we've talked about the Michigan Monday podcast where Bryce Underwood
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  Speaker 1: seems to be more comfortable when he's rolling out. But
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  Speaker 1: also I think that creates some comfort in the pocket
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  Speaker 1: as well for him because when things get going, he's
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  Speaker 1: feeling confident. He's feeling good. He's seeing things better. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know that you necessarily need to do that with
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: sand because Iowa has one sack in their two power
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: four games this season. So I feel like he'd rather
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: just stay in the pocket and pick you apart.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And you know, if you can get him out
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: there and he can make some plays with his legs,
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: like he did last week against Illinois. Phenomenal. Great. Do that.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: But you know, he's not, he's not the same quarterback
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: that Bryce Underwood is like that. And, Well, there's a
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: different style of game.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: Yes, I know.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: Between those two guys, there's a different style of game.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: And Bryce Underwood, I don't think Bryce Underwood can sit
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: in this pocket and just sit back in the pocket
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: for four seconds and read the defense. And great googly
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: moogly Penn State. Baby, what is you doing? Northwestern football,
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: extremely good question mark?
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: Well, there's a flag, so... We'll see.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: We'll see.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: For being too good.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. It's a Julian Sane and Bryce Underwood
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: are different enough quarterbacks that I think you're looking at.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: You know, this is not a one for one thing. But,
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: you know, if you're going to get him out on
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: the edge, he could, you know, certainly there are going
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: to be opportunities there. Here's Tony. This one's just for you.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: Murphy Serafino, our good buddy. How many touches, if any,
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: for Legend Bay tomorrow? The floor is yours.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: I got to go. I'll be right back. I just
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: got to take some time off. Now, this is an
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: interesting question because it's a road game against an undefeated
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: team where you don't want to give them anything. So
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: with that in mind, I want to know how Legend
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: did in practice this week. That'll tell you whether he's
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: going to play. We don't know how he did in practice.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Ryan Day didn't really talk much about it. By the
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: time we talked to him on Wednesday, they've only had, what,
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: two practices necessarily since, you know, at all.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Where are you feeling like, because if I set the over-under, shoot,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: I almost want to just set it at like one
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: and a half because it's either one and a half
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: or half of a touch.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: And it's like, I don't know if he's going to
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: play because I don't know how he did this week.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: And can you convince coaches, okay, he's trustworthy now because
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: of this week of practice.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: I think at this point my assumption is just under.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: My assumption is zero until next week against Maryland. He's
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: going to get touches because Maryland is garbage fire.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: And then it's going to be like, why isn't he
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: playing more?
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: Right, yeah. I'm at the point where, okay, now I've
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: got to see it. One touch against Texas, one touch
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: against Kent State, didn't play at all last week. And
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: was DNP coach's decision last week. So if you're DNP
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: coach's decision, then all right, then you were DNP coach's
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: decision until I said otherwise.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: And Ryan didn't say like, well, you know, we wanted to,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: he was coming back from the injury. So we just
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: wanted to make, you know, hold him out. It was just,
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: you know, we've got to continue to build trust. And
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you can do that in one
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: week if you didn't play the week before. Yeah.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: And maybe, maybe it's small stuff that you just need
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: to sort of check the box, but we'll, we'll see.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Doug says, my two favorite dudes covering the Buckeyes on YouTube. Everywhere, actually? Yeah,
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know. The call is coming from inside the room.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: I don't know. We appreciate you being here with us.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: Lou says, great. Grady, Zion Grady, is back. Hope the
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: pass rush shows up. Yeah, Zion Grady being off the
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: available to report entirely is, that feels like that could
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: be a big deal for Ohio State.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and Ryan Day is looking for taking all applications
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: at the position, so this is another one, and he's
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: He was a starting defensive end for a reason. Now, Tom,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that reason was because you are
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: the best of this group or you are what a
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: starting defensive end at Ohio State is. We saw some
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: good moments from him last year, and you figured the
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: trajectory would be like, okay, well, he's going to be
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: starting in 2026. And then spring happens, and it's like
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: we don't hear much about him. And then one random
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: afternoon towards the end of fall preseason practice, Ryan Day
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: mentioned Zion Grady.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: As, as like basically the default start. It was like,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: what does this win? You could have said something. Yeah, exactly.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: And you know, I hope the pass rush shows up.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: I think Iowa has only given up one sack in
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: their two power conference games this year as well. I
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: believe that's right. Or not none at all because they
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: have generally been run the ball or take your, you know,
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: take your, get to the back of your drop and
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: boom the balls out. Like they're not sitting in the pocket.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: It's kind of, get one read or two reads and
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: then go just get the ball out. Don't, don't sit
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: back there. So I don't know that there's going to
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: be that much pressure or that much, you know, I
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: don't think they're necessarily going to pile up huge sack numbers,
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: but as long as they can, you know, Zion Grady
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: is dominant off the edge. Great. That's that, you know,
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: when you're, when you're one-on-ones and, and that will carry
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: over more to games in the future.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Where, I am interested to see how much workload that
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: he gets. We talked on the live show, the hotel arrival.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: I was wondering, does he, do he and Quay Russo
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: have about the same number of snaps in this one
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: as they were Zion Grady back? And what happens with
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Quay Russo snaps when Zion Grady is back fully? And
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: how do they still figure out what kind of alignments
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: work and the penny front being good, sometimes bad and,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Still dealing with all of that stuff.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're going to have– I mean, it's going
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: to probably be a very different defense on Saturday than
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: it was against Illinois last week or Texas in week
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: two because this is going to be a week when
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: I think you're going to see a lot of three linebackers.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: I think you're going to see a lot of four three.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: Which three? I think the answer is all four of them,
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: just three at a time. But you're going to– and
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: this is not necessarily always going to be Four down
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: linemen and the three linebackers standing right behind them. It's
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: like the best of chums. It's going to be a
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: mixture of a bunch of different stuff. But just personnel-wise,
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: I'm expecting more 4-3 than the 4-2-5 that we've seen
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: in almost like a base defense.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: Troy says, nice stadium, Kinnick, as long as you're not
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: in the visiting team's locker room of much pinkness. Has
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: there been any conversation? I don't remember anyone getting asked
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: about the pink locker rooms this week.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Honestly, I don't. there's no no reason to ask anybody
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: here because they've not been right and then so maybe
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: it's a thing that no longer happens since like big
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: 10 expansion you're not there every two years yeah so
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: it's like yeah i don't i don't really and don't
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: they all some some.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Programs will bring stuff yeah they will bring like newspaper
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: or something.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: The advanced team would cover up the big walls.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah and and god forbid well the theory was
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: back in the you know and this is In the
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: 1980s and lots of scientific stuff from the 1980s.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Hayden Frye, reading his Dr. Spock books.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The theory was that it lowered your testosterone levels
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: or something. I don't know how that has held up
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: in the modern science environment. But last I heard, they
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: were still pink locker rooms. And a lot of teams
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: do go in and just kind of like paper over
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: it just because it's like– don't give people any reason
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: to think about it.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: And really like the opposing, the visiting locker room, like
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: you've seen pictures of the Northwestern visiting locker room, which
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: looks like pretty mundane and average. Meanwhile, like the rest
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: of the stadium is brand new. And it's like, yeah,
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: it's really, it's kind of like an immediate room. Yeah. Yeah.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Well it's, no one spends money in the visiting team
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: locker room because they're not, you're not getting a donation
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: for many of them. So it doesn't matter. YTICM says, is,
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Win the fourth quarter of the new Leave No Doubt.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: That's interesting. Although I think Leave No Doubt is a
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: four-quarter thing. Win the fourth quarter is a fourth-quarter thing.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Leave No Doubt being at any point you're doing something
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: so that there is no fourth quarter almost. It's not
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: the same thing, Tom. It's the absolute opposite. Do not
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: let this get to a fourth quarter. So interesting. He's
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: gone completely 180.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Ryan Knight. Troy– Troy says, this Northwestern team looks legit.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, we have kind of had it on and
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: not been watching it super closely. But, yeah, I mean,
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: it seems like this Chip Kelly fellow can call an
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: offense and do some creative stuff.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Well, and Aiden Childs can do so many things. A
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: lot of good. A lot of what in the world
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: are you doing? And now you're second and two is
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: a third and 19. because he fumbled the ball backwards
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: 14 yards and then recovered it and then ran around
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: and almost made a play and then he got sacked
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: twice somehow. He's got a ton of ability. If you
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: can control it and contain it and use it for
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: good instead of evil, Michigan State, they were using it
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: for evil, as we know.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: I'm really having trouble wrapping my head around the fact
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: that this fancy new Ryan Field is the same Ryan
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Field where we were in 2022, where it's the old, tired,
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: kind of 80-mile-an-hour wind. It was fine in the press box.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: It certainly was. I'm going to read some of this
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: and not all, but Duke says, Portnoy is the absolute
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: worst and doesn't know anything about pizza. Now, I will say,
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: I believe he enjoys New Haven-style pizza. I believe that
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: was something that Because I was in a New Haven-style
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: pizza place, and I believe there was something from him
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: on the walls or something like that.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: New Haven-style? Is this just cheese pizza that is kind
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: of floppy?
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: No. New Haven-style is coal-fired ovens, and it's like New York-style,
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: but it comes out almost burned.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Cajun blackened.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: It's like a Cajun blackened, yes.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: Pequod.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: I'm going to... In Chicago. I'm going to find a....
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: Yes, find a picture and show the people on camera.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to show the people on camera. I'm
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: just going to show you, Tony.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: That's even better.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Even better.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: This is going to be good for the audio side. Yes.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: So there was someone asking if there were two beds
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: in the room. Yes, there are two beds in the room.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: YT says getting planes, trains, and automobiles. Those aren't pillows.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Those are not pillows. There we go. I think I've got,
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: there we go. That's, That's New Haven style pizza. Yeah,
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: it's very good. Here, let's see. I'll hold this up
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: to the camera. Yeah, like that's New Haven style pizza.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: That was a pizza that I consumed earlier this year in,
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: not in New Haven, but at Frank Pepe's, which is
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: a very traditional New Haven style place in Connecticut. So
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: very good. So Keith, I think Keith has a good
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: synopsis here. Not exactly. I wouldn't co-sign this whole thing,
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: but I think broadly speaking, I agree with this. The
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: running backs get exactly as many yards as a place
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: block for and not an inch more. They can't break
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: a tackle or make one guy miss, turn a 10-yard
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: into a 40-yard. Now, I think there are times when
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: the play is blocked for five and they get eight.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: The play is blocked for three and they get 10.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: But there's that one last guy at the end. But
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: they've done a good job. The line has been very
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: good this year, and I think they've done a pretty
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: good job as backs getting what the play is blocked for.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: Because you've seen in the past backs at Ohio State
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: where it's like, The play is blocked for five, and
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: they'll get three. And it's like, man, that's like having
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: a bullpen that can't hold the lead. There's nothing worse
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: than that.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think one of the reasons I'm not out
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: on the running game is because I think the offensive
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: line is blocking it. Jacoby Jackson is running hard. Yeah.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: So he'll get a couple extra yards. Bo Jackson, I think,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: falls forward. Is that damning a faint phrase? The best
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: thing you can say about him is he falls forward well.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: I think Bo Jackson is better than a lot of people.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: He still needs to show more this year. I think
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: that will happen because we've seen it happen in the past.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: But there's a lot of truth to the fact that
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: you're not going to get more out of this than
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: all plays are designed to be touchdowns.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Man, and this is, Emily says, the VT game is close. Yeesh,
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Pitt came back fast. Yeah, that game was 14-0 Virginia Tech.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: With 10 minutes to go.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Five minutes into the game, it was 14-0 for Virginia Tech,
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: and Virginia Tech had the ball and now pits up 28-24.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Oh, James.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: James Franklin back. Here's an interesting theory from Duke. It
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: looks like Bo gets too much of a forward lean
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: as an off-balance.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: You know, like he's the whole slow-to-fast-through, and is he
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: getting over his shoes, getting through, and then, yeah, the
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: balance is gone. is interesting because, you know, you, you
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: want to break tackles, but you need to be under your,
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: or your feet need to be under you in order
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: to get that, not, you know, the balance isn't there.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: So that's interesting. Cause you look at other running backs
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: who have great balance and it always seems like the
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: feet and the shoulders are in the same place with him.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: They're not.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Keith says, he, Jacoby needs to get more early carries,
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: maybe wear down the defense a bit. And Bo comes
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: in with a bit more burst. That that's, you know,
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: I don't know when, how far into the game do
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: you have to get where, you know, because I don't
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: think they're looking on Saturday in Iowa City to have a,
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: you know, put together a bunch of 12 play drives.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: Like they want to, you know, I think they'd like
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: to get some tempo, sort of build a little bit
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: of a rhythm, and then you find an opportunity to
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: hit something downfield. they're not looking to have 12 plays,
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: 75 yards, 657 off the clock. They want to kind
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: of keep– there's something Arthur Smith talked about. They kind
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: of want to hit the gas a little bit.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and if it is a 12-play drive, it's going
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: to be like three minutes because they're just moving and
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: getting it going. But back to Jacoby Jackson and Bo Jackson.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: I call them Jaboby.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: Did you have anything else? Was that it?
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: No, I just wanted to bring it back to that.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Keith says, mid-Campbell will not be the
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: Penn State coach next time Ohio State sees him. When
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: is the next time Ohio State? They must play next year, right?
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: You know what? You go ahead and talk about Matt Campbell.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: Matt Campbell is such a weird hire to me. You
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: can go back and you can dig up the receipts
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: on this one. I thought they should have hired Bob Chesney.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: You just fired a guy for being, well, he's pretty good,
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: but he can't get us over the hump. And then
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: you hired the guy who has basically the exact same
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: resume that James Franklin had coming in where it's like, wow,
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: he just wanted a place where no one wins. How
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: much did he win? A pretty good amount.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Sometimes.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: Sometimes. Many times he won.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: And he's better when you don't think he's going to
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: be very good and he's worse when you think he's
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: going to be good.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And I know they got way down their list.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: but Matt Campbell was a weird fit. And I like
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Matt Campbell a lot. I think Matt Campbell's a very
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: good football coach for what Penn state wants and what
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Penn state needs or what Penn state thinks they need
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: to hit that next level. He was a weird fit.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: And I, you know, and this is also not a
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: team that this is also not a team that has
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: a ton of money to sink into the roster. Like
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Penn state, you, you think of, you know, Penn state,
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: the way it presents itself is, you know, The three
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: lions of the Big Ten, Ohio State, Michigan, and Penn State.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: And then you look at the athletic report on how
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: much the roster spends are. It's the three lions of
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: the Big Ten, Ohio State, Michigan, and Penn State. And
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: if you're listening on the podcast later, my hand went
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: from the top of the screen to the middle of
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: the screen to the bottom of the screen. Penn State
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: doesn't have the spend right now to match the aspirations.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: Well, in spending, it's Ohio State and Oregon and USC
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: and then Indiana.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: And then everyone else below that, yeah.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: But maybe this is the level that they can get
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: because of the level that they can provide. And they
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: would get other coaches with more investment. Maybe like if
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Bob Chesney had the pick of UCLA– Or Penn State.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: You would expect, yeah, of course you're going to take
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: the Penn State thing all day long. But what's the promise?
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: What's the investment? Can you impress more at UCLA and
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: then move on? Because if you're at Penn State, you're
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: there forever.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: If he had a choice, he's taking Penn State. Because
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: he's a East central Pennsylvania guy. He's not just a
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: Pennsylvania guy. Like, well, he's from the Philly suburbs. He's
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: from like East central Pennsylvania. He's from, if you know
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: where Centralia is, treat yourself to Googling Centralia, Pennsylvania. It's
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: a wild story. Uh, but he's from like that area.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: And then he went to, uh, Dickinson college, which is Carlisle,
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: which is again, like, I think that's West of Harrisburg.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure I should know this. I've done this
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: drive a hundred thousand times, but it's like West of Harrisburg.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: It is like, That is Penn State country. And if
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: you listen to him talk, you're like, man, you can
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: hear every central Pennsylvania person you've ever talked to. He
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: does not say water. He's not a Philly guy. He's
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: an east, like a central Pennsylvania guy. UCLA has fired
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: their athletic director since he was hired. Like if you
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: look at it, like objectively Penn State would have been
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: a better choice for him and a more natural fit
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: for him. And a tremendous amount of debt. Yes. Like, yeah.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: What was the timeline? The option was there for him,
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: for Penn State to offer him the job, and it
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: doesn't sound like they did. Which, man, if you want
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: the upside play, you've got to hire the upside guy.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: They did not hire the upside guy.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: The upside of Matt Campbell is there is none. He's
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: not going to make Penn State better than James Franklin.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: He's never shown– any ability to do that in what
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: he's done at Iowa State sometimes. So this was just
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: a less enthusiastic version of James Franklin. Yeah. Yeah.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: And that's not necessarily bad if you're running, you know,
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: if you're the person who's running Penn State athletics and
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: you're ready for someone who's a little less enthusiastic than
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: James Franklin.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: You just need to tone it down a notch. Somebody
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: who doesn't talk as much.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And H2627 says, did Legend travel? As far as
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: I'm aware, he traveled.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: I wasn't sure. I just checked Twitter to see if
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: anybody spotted him or eyeballed him while people were getting
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: off the bus, but I didn't see any.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: If you want to, go back. We have a live
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: stream of the team's arrival. Go through that. We had–
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: Juck had his camera in one spot. I brought my
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: camera kind of towards the front door. Look for the
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: group of running backs because they all travel– The quarterbacks
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: are going to get off the bus together. The defensive
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: linemen are going to get off the bus together. Find
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: the group of running backs and look for legend. I
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: didn't see him, but I didn't not see him, if
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: that makes sense. Doug says, Ryan Day's CIA brother taught
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: him how to keep secrets. Listen, has he been upgraded
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: from private eye to CIA?
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: How many brothers? Good question. How many are in government?
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: How many are in private contracting now?
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: Because once you get out of a government job and
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: you can retire from that, then really the big money
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: from the TV shows that I watch is really in
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: private contracting. And also PI work in, say... Hawaii.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: If you can get a rich person to let you
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: stay in their house....
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Helicopter access, Ferrari access, Detroit Tigers hat access. I mean,
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: if you can check all those boxes.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: eventually that there is going to be some version of this,
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: like part of the Michigan dossier on Ryan day is
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: going to have.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: Like, I hear that's coming out any day now.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Wait till you see the receipts on the Hawaiian shirt budget. Man,
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: somebody is going to pay.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: Do you think Ryan day has ever worn a Hawaiian shirt? Oh,
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: for sure.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: 100%. Uh, Adam Baker says Timmons in or out and
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Grady starting. So Jay Timmons in or out, He is
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: the one person where the availability report that was updated tonight,
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: that's still an open question. Pretty much everyone, Philip Daniels included,
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: listed as out, like you're not going to see Philip
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: Daniels on Saturday. Timmons, Jay Timmons, is still listed as questionable.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: My assumption, and this is just looking at the opponent,
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: looking at what you're likely to face in terms of
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: scheme and personnel, looking at what's ahead on the schedule,
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: my assumption is that they would probably like to not
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: play him. And you probably don't need to play that
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: much nickel, so you can probably get away with not
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: playing him. And then you got Maryland on deck. And
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: Maryland is, you know, unless something real significant changes, Maryland
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: is not very good at football this year.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: I still think you want to get him out there
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: against Maryland.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: So that he's not been on the bench for three weeks.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, if you don't have to give him
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: an extended run, full game run until– You play in
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: Bloomington on the 17th of October. I think they would
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: prefer to do that.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: I think that Maryland game, a lot of starters are
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: going to play one half and one series.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: As far as Zion Grady, I don't read that much
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: into who's starting. I read into who's playing a bunch
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: of snaps.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: Especially with whatever their alignments are, they could be starting
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: three defensive tackles and a defensive end. It's like He's
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: going to rotate in. He's going to play.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: All right. These numbers are a little outdated from S.J. Buckeye,
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: but the ratio of people watching to number of likes
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: on YouTube, not what we want to see. Go ahead
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: and hit the thumbs up. Leave us a comment as well.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: Make sure you're subscribed to the channel. We're going to
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: have a pregame show. We'll do some behind-the-scenes stuff on
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: Saturday at Kinnick Stadium. We'll have our live postgame show.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: Lots of stuff coming, so make sure you are on
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: the site.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: And then, of course, next week starts Maryland week.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: Oh, man. Man, fear the.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: Turtle.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah. YTJCM says, we need a Doug and Bill slash
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: Tom and Tony dinner crossover with review, preferably a buffet.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: We have done... We have been on Bill and Doug's
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: show a few times. Love those guys.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah great guys we were also um what the miami
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: playoff game before the alabama game but we ran into
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: bill and uh oh in.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: The in the uh yes this is the covid this
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: is a covid year yeah we had to eat out
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: inside we were eating in a uh cuban yeah it
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: was a good restaurant And this was during like January
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: of 2021. So everything was like, yeah, you've got to
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: eat outdoors. And, but yeah, I think that's the closest
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: we've come to eating a meal with Bill outside of a, uh,
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: press box, press box.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: Situation. Yes. Um, media, um, Oh yeah. Like a bowl trips.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: That, yeah. Outside of, outside of situations.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: Everybody has shared meals in those venues. Yeah.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: Um, Doug says, I remember the look on Tony's face
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: when he reported that Ryan Day dropped Zion Grady's name
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: at the end of a press conference. It was just
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: so out of the blue. It's like, yeah, he does exist. Yeah.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: We kept waiting to hear. We kept waiting to hear.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: Adam wants to know about the defensive portal additions this season,
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: whether they've been underwhelming so far. you know, Quay Rousaw,
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: I was expecting more from Quay Rousaw in terms of
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: pressure off the edge. Like he's played a bunch, but
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: he hasn't been super impactful in terms of pass rush.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: James Smith has been fine. The early reports this spring
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: that we got were so glowing that I had probably
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: unrealistic expectations. He's been fine, but he hasn't been a
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: difference maker. Excuse me. John Walker, I think has been,
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: I think John Walker's probably the best of those three. Linebacker,
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: Christian Allegro. I think Christian Allegro's carved out a nice
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: role for himself. Earl Little. Oh, Earl Little. I think
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: Earl Little is probably the best of those. If you're
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: ranking those guys in terms of impact this year, is
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: it Earl Little, Christian Allegro, John Walker, James Smith, Clay Russoff?
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you could also rank them in terms
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: of wins above replacement. Like if you were to take
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: them out, who is the most important? Because even there,
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: it's also Earl Little, I would think.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Jordan Capo says, what's more effective or accurate,
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: pink walls or hat science?
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing about hat science. And if you
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: guys don't understand what hat science is, good for you.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: Hat science is a real thing that has been– just
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: destroyed by the administrators and the army games and all
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: of that, where, um, it's not about the kid and
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: the kid's family putting out the hats and trying to
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: fool you. And then by trying to fool you, we
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: know exactly where you're going now. Um, and then you
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: get these edits and people are like, is there a
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: such a thing as edit science? It's like, no, no,
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: there you can't.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: What kind of stupid question is that?
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Tom. Um, But the best example of hat
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: science being true ever was Damien, the running back that
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: was choosing between Alabama, Kentucky, and West, Damien Harris. So
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: there's this thing with hat science, the middle hat curse.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: The middle hat is never chosen unless you go to
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: Notre Dame or you are committing to a school using
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: a live animal. This has happened. The live animal being
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: once before, I think it was to Florida, So they
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: put these hats out beforehand, and it gets posted and
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: tweeted out, and Ohio State is in the middle of
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: Alabama and Kentucky. And it's like, well, middle hat curse.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: Ohio State is out. They see this, and they're like, oh,
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: we've got to change it out.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: So what do they do? They put Kentucky in the middle. Oh, man.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: And they just told us where he's going. You curse
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: the two teams, and then boom, he's going to Alabama.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: So this stuff is real. It's not something that people
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: should be playing with. Don't get a science Ouija board.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: Just leave it alone. Leave it for the professionals. I
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: don't even touch it anymore because I feel like it's
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: not what it once was, Tom, back when it was pure.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: I have nothing to add that is either relevant or true. Keith,
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: people need to remember that Legend Bay played quarterback in
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: high school, still learning running back. sure doesn't have the
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: ball security that they want, relax trying to run off
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: kids four games into their career. Yeah, this is, I think,
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: a great time to remind everyone that it is just
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: now the beginning of October, and they are a third
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: of the way through the regular season and could be
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: a quarter of the way through the full season, depending
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: on how many postseason games they play. There's a long
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: way to go. And for true freshmen, you know, it
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: feels like, oh, Legend Bay, we've been hearing about him forever.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: Think about, you know, Jeremiah Smith has wrecked the curve
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: on what it means to be a true freshman at
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: Ohio State and when you start playing a bunch. And
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: go back to, you know, Garrett Wilson did not play
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: a lot until probably around this time. He started playing more.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Chris Alave didn't play until basically like Halloween. I still
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: remember they brought Chris Alave out for interviews yesterday. I
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: think the week, the off week in 2018, and there
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: were a bunch of people in our comments going, why
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: are they bringing this kid? This kid's never going to play.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: And it was like, it was almost Halloween. Everyone kind
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: of progresses at their own pace. As Keith, you know,
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: as Keith said, like there's a bunch of reasons why,
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: you know, for on-field reasons, plenty of just perfectly legitimate
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: on-field reasons. And, you know, you're also adjusting to life
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: in college. And when you think about his college process
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: and what led him to Tennessee initially, everyone has their
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: own little path and everyone has their own background that
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: they're coming from. And so not everyone is starting college
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: at exactly the same point.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: And I still keep going back to the RPO that
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: Legend grabbed from Julian that Julian maybe wanted to throw.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: I will say this. Right now, Legend Bay has eight
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: carries through four games. Last year, Isaiah West, eight carries
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: through four games. All eight of those were against Grambling State.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: So.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: We saw what happened with Isaiah West last year. He
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: played more and more and became essentially a number two back, um,
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: later in the season. There's still plenty of time for
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: legend Bay. Uh, absolutely. I mean, sincere Johnson just lost
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: his black stripe and I've saw, I don't know, Twitter
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: on the message board asking about some of the other freshmen, like,
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: is it too late for them? It's like, yeah, no.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: Oh, it was about Blaine Bradford. Yeah. Yeah.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: Boy, it was, is he a bus?
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: It's like, you gotta give.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Them time, man. And, um, As Ryan Day has said
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: about Jason Moore, fifth-year senior who's playing well. We didn't
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: even mention him earlier. Everybody has their own path. Brian
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: Hartline would say that all the time about his recruits,
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: and he had to say it a lot about the
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: 2022 class.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: And about the 2024 class of Jeremiah. Sometimes everyone has
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: their own path and ends up not going to the
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: place you wanted to go, but It's going to be
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: a little different. Jordan says, bold prediction. Connor Hawkins, breakout game,
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: seven made field goals, all from 40-plus yards.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: Oh, and the best part about that is all of
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: those are kicked on like fourth and four or shorter.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: At some point, you're just going to see them smashing.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: It's just fourth and one. It's all fourth and one.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: Doug says, I'm glad Bob Chesney isn't at Penn State. Yeah,
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of Ohio State fans are.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: See what you say when he's at Michigan in two years.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: That's the question, is where is he after? Because Kyle
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: Whittingham's not going to be at Michigan forever.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: I could see him at Michigan next year, Bob Chesney.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: Maybe. I don't think so. I don't expect it. Yeah,
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: it's possible. Yeah, it's... Yeah, and....
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: Or what if Ohio State goes back to the well
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: and brings in UCLA head coach as offensive coordinator?
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: Man, I would be here for it, but I think
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: Arthur Smith is enjoying himself in college so far. He says,
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: Matt Campbell, have your team playing like the most impressive
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: and most unimpressive eight-win team both at the same time.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: They're going to give it their all, though. Will the
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: fans like it? No, they are already very unhappy and
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: booing and yelling at players in the last game, so.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, YT says the new Ryan Field seats 35,000. Very
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: wise move on their first part. Keeps it intimate, but
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: has a big feel. I mean, it looks big, but
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: there have been certain shots that you've been able to
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: see during the construction process where it's like, that is
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: a tiny stadium compared to other ones. But I think
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: the back row of the stadium is probably... The farthest
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: seats from the field are probably... closer than 80% of
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: the states in a lot of stadiums.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: I'm guessing like the farthest would be maybe comparable to
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: like first row of B deck and Ohio stadium, which
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: are fantastic seats.
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, now we've got, we've got central pH
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: at Duke says used to travel the mechanics bird for work.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: I hate that area from Pennsylvania.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: Mr.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: Buck not 22 says I'm originally from Pennsylvania that by
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: the part from the pencil part of Pennsylvania, this by Harrisburg,
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: That is Wegmans country. I always, we always get a,
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: make a point to stop at Wegmans when we're driving
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: through Pennsylvania. So that is, uh, that is, I, I
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: always enjoy that. Like I, I like central Pennsylvania quite
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: a bit. It's a nice, nice spot. Uh, Mr. Buck,
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: that says, uh, originally from Erie moved to Cleveland.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: My wife worked in Erie right out of college. She
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: was in TV. That was one of her first, like
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: a real starting market, uh, Erie, Pennsylvania.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: And yeah, that's a, what market is that?
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: Uh, it was, it was, yeah, it was in the
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: 200 ish range and market is your market size for
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: people who are not TV or TV adjacent. So New
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: York is the number one market and, uh, LA is
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: number two, Chicago's number three. And then it's like, Yeah,
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: Houston and Philly and Detroit was when I worked in Detroit.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: San Francisco, Oakland.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Detroit and Cleveland were in the like 11 to
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: 13 kind of range. But these have all changed. Columbus
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: was like 32, like 30 years ago. Columbus was 34
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: and then it was 32. I think it's kind of
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: gotten bigger. But yeah, the smallest market in the country
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: at one point was Zanesville, I believe, or Alpena, Michigan,
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: which is kind of northern Michigan. So yes. So there
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: you go. TV market chat, the thing that we all
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: knew was going to happen.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: Super chat that.
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: Duke says, my son and I are going to the
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: Oregon game. Anyone else going? Yes, we will be there.
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: And if you are a member of Buckeye Insider Scum,
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: we actually have a member tailgate that's going on that day.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: We'll have an actual tailgate party in the lot next
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: to the stadium just for members of Buckeye Insiders. So
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: if you've been thinking, hey, it might be fun to
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: sign up there, if you do that before the Oregon game,
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: You can come hang out and tailgate with us. We'll
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: have food and fun and all that kind of stuff.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: Got a big November planned.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes. We have a lot of stuff coming in November.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: So if you have a... Again, if you've been thinking
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: about signing up, this would be a very good time
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: to do that at BuckeyeInsiders.com. Just go to... I don't know.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: What does it say?
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: Register? Sign up?
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Go to BuckeyeInsiders.com.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: Go to BuckeyeInsiders.com. Go to BuckeyeInsiders.com and click on subscribe. Yes.
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: I knew it was... it's at the top of the thing.
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Uh, David Greenfield says, do
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: we have a favorite OSU versus Iowa game of all time?
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: Here's one that, um, we were talking about, uh, on Wednesday, leaving,
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: leaving the interviews. And that was the 1996 game where
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: Iowa comes in home, maybe ranked like eighth. Tavian Banks
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: is the Heisman front runner. He's averaging 200 yards rushing
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: per game. And I think if we could pull up the, the,
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: the drive chart, but, or the, the play by play, um,
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: I think it was like two of the first three plays,
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: Andy Katzenmeier tackles him for like no gain or a loss.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: And everything was built up about Tavian Banks and Tavian Bankstad.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: He had blonde hair, Tom. And Andy Katzenmeier just comes
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: in and wipes him out, maybe on the very first
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: play for like a two-yard loss. And they contained him
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: all day until he had like a 40-yard run in
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: the fourth quarter to rush for like 80. I'm going
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: to say, Tom, You can fact check me on this,
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: like 82 yards on 22 carries, and it was well
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: under half of what he had been doing all season long. Thomas,
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: 22 for 82, how is it?
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: Well, okay, so I'm just going through the box score
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: from that game now. It was 38-6 Ohio State. The
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: middle of the, almost late in the third, and then
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: they scored the last 20 points of the game to
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: finish with a 38-26 game. Tim Dwight had a punt
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: return for a touchdown, had a 19-yard rushing touchdown.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: Oh, no, that's Cedric Shaw? No, where's Tabian Banks?
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: Tabian Banks had four.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: This is not 1996, Tom.
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: Well, okay. It's in the 1996 season stats.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: Maybe it was 1997.
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: Maybe.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: Maybe.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: My favorite game was 1997. I will say– This is
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: actually before my time, but this is one of the
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: legends of the 1990 Ohio State-Iowa game that was here
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: in Iowa City. Bobby Olive caught a touchdown pass on
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: the last play of the game to win. Basically, what
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: Iowa did to Michigan last week, Ohio State did to
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: Iowa here in 1990. The other one that's very famous
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: is 1985. That was won in Ohio Stadium when Iowa
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: was ranked number one. Iowa had, I believe, just beaten Michigan,
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: I think, 12-10 the week before that. Iowa's number one
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: in the nation to go into Ohio State. It is
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: raining like a son of a gun. Sonny Gordon blocks
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: a punt for a safety, and Ohio State ends up
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: winning more points, two less points was the final score
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: of that game.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: This is my last chance. Is it 1997? Ohio State
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: wins 23-7. And I'm guessing this was the Tavian Banks game.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: And I apologize for Tom not having this one correct.
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: Tavian Banks, 22 for 84. And I said 22 for 82. So, again,
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: I apologize for being very wrong.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: Off by only two yards and one year.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: And he got somewhere, as I scroll down, 11 tackles,
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: two tackles for loss, an interception. That dude had a
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: lot of interceptions in his time at Ohio State. But
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: I will continue. Here's first play. Tavian Banks, rush over
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: left tackle for no gain. Andy Katzmoyer. Tavian Banks, rush
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: over left guard for loss of two. Andy Katzmoyer. And
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: in third and 12, they pick it up to invite.
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: But anyway, he set the tone. And then again, the
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: next first down play, rush over right guard for no gain.
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: Andy Katzmoyer. That dude, 1997 time, I told you. Good
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: job by me. What recall?
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: Do we need to change the name of the Mandela
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: effect to Tavian Banks effect?
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: The Katzenmeier effect.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: The Katzenmeier effect. There you go. Troy says, the way
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: Northwestern is playing makes me think that last week at
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: Indiana was that close because Northwestern is kind of good.
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: Not a homecoming team this year.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: You know, I still want to see more from Josh
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: Hoover and the rest of the Indiana defense. They lost
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: a running back. He might be. I don't think it's
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: too bad. Maybe he did well stepping in for him.
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: But Indiana has lost some talent, and it's going to
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: take them a little bit of time. Just as Ohio
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: State has lost some talent. and it's going to take
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: them a little bit of time. I don't think, Tom,
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: Indiana's going to repeat this year.
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: And that's generally a safe bet that they're not going to.
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: Dave Greenshield says, my choice, Greg Friday, Bobby Olive in
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: 1990 to be the top five Iowa team. Yep, came
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: up with that one. That was a good one. And
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: Jason Warner brings up the other one that I brought
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: in way back when I was number one that came
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: into the shoe. That was in the Earl Brewster years,
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: not the John Cooper years, but 1985.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: Emily says that Christian Allegro looks like a prince from
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: a Disney movie.
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah. David Grinshield says 1985 in the rain to beat
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: Chuck Long and Ronnie Harmon.
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: You go back and you watch that. And the turf,
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: the Ohio stadium field just looks so hard. It looks
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: like you're playing on cement. And as people who are
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: out there will tell you, it was, it was just cement.
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And if you were ever on those, it is
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: cement with cement. Like, you know, that like green carpet
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: that my grandparents had on their outdoor porch. Yes. It's like, yeah,
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: just cement with that on top of it. Like, wow,
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: why can none of those guys walk anymore? I don't know.
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: It's a mystery. Mr. Bucknut is hitting my absolutely hitting
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: the perfect spot with me talking about Pepper Johnson, but
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: also talking about Pepper Johnson for the New York Giants.
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: Now, he wore 52 with the Giants. And you know
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: who's wearing 52 now? Arvel Reese.
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: Oh, there you go.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: And he's playing like Pepper Johnson.
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: There you go. Mateo Enfuego says, Ohio State 31, Iowa 13,
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: Bo Jackson rips off a long one. Julian to JJ
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: and Brandon Innes for a couple touchdowns. Listen, if they cover,
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: if they win by 18, score 30 points, everyone should be,
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: that should be the first ever postgame show where no
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: one is upset about anything. I mean, if it's 31-13
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: and they get out at Iowa City with a three-score win.
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: What if it's, Tom, it's 13-10 Iowa going into the
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: fourth quarter? You say there could be no way. I'm
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: just trying to come up with some ways.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: I'm saying there should be. I'm not saying there won't be.
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: This is not my first day on the Internet, sir.
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: 31-13 over Iowa. And that's similar to some of the
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: Iowa people, a couple of the Iowa guys that I watched.
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: That's kind of what they're predicting is Ohio State to
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: win by at least 17 or 18 points.
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Helmuth's hero says Katzmaier ended many running backs Heisman campaigns.
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: The Ohio State defense then did that in 2002 as
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: well with all the Heisman campaigns there.
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: John Woolridge at running back in 1985. Yeah. And David
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: Greenfield says that was the first legit good John Cooper
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: win 1990 against Iowa. I didn't remember them being top five,
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: but those Iowa teams, those Hayden Frye Iowa teams were
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: really good. Yeah.
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: They play the same defense they do now.
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, David Greenshield said the 1996 OSU defense was awesome.
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: Top three OSU defense I've ever seen.
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: And if you go back and look at it, like
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: man for man, like on the defensive line, it's like,
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the defensive line wasn't great.
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: Like you still had Fink as a variable. But like
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: maybe it was a 97. No, it was a 98
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: was like.
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: That was like Brent Johnson and Mike Collins. Yeah, those guys, yeah.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: But the secondary in 96, man. Yeah.
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: Vrabel was phenomenal off the edge in 1996.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: And Finkus was no slouch at all.
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: Jordan wants to know if we think we'll see Kyle
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: Parker tomorrow.
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: Ryan Day talked about that on Tuesday. He said, you know,
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: if he does come in, it's going to be in
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: a backup role until he gets going. They're freely rotating guys.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: If Phillip Bell is playing, now we've only seen Des
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: Jones in blowouts. Is Kyle Parker a blowout guy now,
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: or is he Phillip Bell? Because Phillip Bell is playing
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: in live action in a live game, making a big
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: catch down in the red zone. I feel like Kyle
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: Parker should be to that point, but he hasn't been
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: healthy for to like the last couple of weeks.
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: Right. We have not seen him on the field since
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: the spring.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Correct.
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: And he was like, he, during the spring was kind
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: of like, okay, like there's some stuff there, but it wasn't,
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: oh man, this is guy, this guy is immediately going
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: to be in a dominant play. It was like, I
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: see a guy who could be a useful rotational player
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: for Ohio state. And then we haven't seen him since April.
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: So he's gotten back on the practice field and is
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: starting to work himself back towards it. But that's, That
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: is not an– you know, this is not Jeremiah Smith
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: where it's like, well, as soon as he's healthy, it
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: doesn't matter how long he's been out, you throw him
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: out there. Like this is someone who when he's ready,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: they'll put him out there. You know, I would set
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: the over-under on the number of certainly receptions for him
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: tomorrow at 0.5 and take the under. And, you know,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: probably snaps. I mean, maybe he plays a handful of snaps.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: You know, you get him out there for three snaps
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: or something like that.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: What's the score, you know?
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: And if he's out there, are those run plays, you know,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: just to– I think you play them against Maryland. Um,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: I don't think you try to screw with anything in
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: terms of the, the Julian saying, uh, connection right now
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: with his receivers is good. You know, they're comfortable. Yeah.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: You throw Kyle Parker in there now. And does that
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: start to mess some stuff up?
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: Well, and, and this, I'm going to go back to
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: someone else who, there we go. Uh, SJ Buckeye says,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: I hope we don't see Parker. We don't need another
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: backup wide receiver. We need to invest in Bell, Boyd
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: and Henry. And that's, that's, I think kind of what
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: you're saying is you, you've got these guys who are
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: sort of working themselves towards bigger roles. Maybe you just
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: sort of, you know, it's not like they've got months
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: and months and months and months and months with the
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: ones where it's like, okay, they don't need any more reps.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: Like this is still at the point of their growth
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: where those reps are very valuable.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And they're, doing well and becoming more viable and
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: more trusted. And that's good for Julian Sane to see.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: It's good for the receivers themselves to see. Because right now,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: all three of those guys have made some big catches
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: in moments. Not game winners or anything like that, but
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: they've been trusted to catch balls and move the chains.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: And they've done that. Keep it going. Kyle Parker's a veteran.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: He should be able to, when he's ready and he's
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: showing it at practice, you can plug him in. But
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: like on the road in his first like game action
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: for Ohio State. Maybe if we get that 31-13 thing
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: that we saw earlier, have at it.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Troy V says, JJ might walk out of Kinnick
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: with the receptions and TD record tomorrow. No, he needs
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: one to tie Chris Olave's touchdown record, career touchdown record,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: two to break. So very, very well possible. The receptions
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: he had.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: He's nine away from a Mecca right now. Yeah.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: So he would need 10 receptions and two touchdowns for
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: that to happen. I mean, he basically did that last week.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: Not exactly, but close to it last week. So you
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: can't say never. I do expect Iowa to pay a
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: lot more attention to him than Illinois did last week.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: So I would be a little surprised if he got
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: the receptions. Tie and maybe beat the touchdowns, yes. Receptions,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: I think, is less likely.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: Obviously, you want to win the game, you're going to
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: do whatever it takes to win the game. Would you
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: rather have those records being broken at home in front
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: of the crowd? They're not thinking about that at all.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: I don't think they care about that. If he breaks
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: it this week, they're going to have a video announcement
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: next week and everyone's going to cheer anyway. this is,
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: you know, this is not the, you know, they, they
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: did the Michael Jenkins video when he broke the career
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: yardage record and they had him step off the sideline
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: and everyone cheered. And then they played the Michael Jenkins
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: video and Jeremiah said he couldn't hear it on the field.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: So it's like, you know, I don't think you're planning
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: things around that.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: If he does not score in this one, you won't
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: even get one point on a bullet prediction for saying
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: he's going to break the two touch, break the touchdown
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: record against Maryland. Like, He'll have two touchdowns in that
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: first quarter just to get it done.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a pretty safe bet. Mr. Bucknut wants to know,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: what do you think of Diaz, the wide receiver for Iowa?
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't think their wide receivers are terrible,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: and they're better than that. You know, it's like Vander
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: Zee had, of course, two touchdowns against Michigan. Diaz The
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: one issue I had with– sorry, I'm just very emotional.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: You need me to take this from here?
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: The issue I had was just the high miss rate
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: with him and Hank Brown. Yeah, the first.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: Five, it was like one catch on the first six
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: attempts or something like that. And then he had a
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: couple later. But, I mean, I think– Ohio State fans
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: are spoiled watching Julian Sane complete 80% of his passes
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: and then everyone going, why isn't he completing 85% of
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: his passes? What's wrong with this guy? That's not most teams.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: Ethan wants to know Turbo Rogers, what's happening there? He
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: just can't stay healthy right now. Can't stay healthy at all.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: Doug says, I only see Boyd and Henry. They're blocking.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: Boyd hasn't dropped one yet. I think both of those
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: guys are well on their way to earning bigger roles.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah. They're playing more than Jackson Smith and Jigbert crystal
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: lobby early on playing probably about as much as Garrett Wilson.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: You know what? Maybe that's an exercise I can do
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: this week is to go back and look at their
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: snaps at this point. And I go and look at
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: the fact that I can find it right now. The
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson, if I just Google Ohio state snap counts, 2019,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: what did they play in 2019? Now they've got Clemson.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: The end of the year. Well, the, Don't you want
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: the end of the season?
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm looking for.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Clemson. It's the last game of the season. Man,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: it is.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: And shout out to our guy, Dan Hope.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: Yes, the real MVP. Man, Virginia Tech, which was up 14-0,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: is now down 35-26. Insurmountable. And they did just pick
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: up a safety.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: On purpose?
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: Maybe. Keith says Grunkemeier going full James Franklin quarterback. Yeah.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: Well, he'll be good with the Steelers in a few years,
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: I guess.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, uh, good evening to Robert Howard. Glad to have
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: you here with us. Drive home safely from work. Doug says,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: I know that Tom, I'm just trying to keep the
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: conversation going because people love you. And he means me.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: He doesn't mean you plural. He means me personally, which
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: is all right. Strong agree. Um, As Jay Buck has said,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: it would be nice if Henry could do what Dixon's
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: doing at USC. It seems odd. One freshman is a
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: national star and the other is hoping for a reception
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: this week.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: But USC is laden with freshmen. They don't have Jeremiah Smith.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: So if Jeremiah Smith wasn't at Ohio State, Chris Henry Jr.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: would be getting more targets. That's just a situational thing.
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  Speaker 1: And Dixon Wyatt is very, very good.
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  Speaker 2: He's legit, but.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Jeremiah Smith's getting 16 targets. There's only so much
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  Speaker 1: for other people. And Brock Boyd is getting as many
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  Speaker 1: targets as Chris Henry Jr., and he's also a very
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  Speaker 1: good freshman wide receiver. So there's only so many to
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  Speaker 1: go around. And Brandon Innes isn't getting any of them,
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  Speaker 1: just to give you an idea.
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  Speaker 2: Of how few there are to go around right now. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the fact that those guys are playing tells
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  Speaker 2: you everything that you need to know about them. They're
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  Speaker 2: not Jeremiah Smith because they're not putting up 100-yard multiple
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  Speaker 2: touchdown games yet. But the fact that they're out there
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  Speaker 2: is an anomaly historically. So that's a big sign that
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  Speaker 2: they're going to be doing good things. Old Pete says,
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  Speaker 2: I'm glad to see Tony is starting tonight. Does this
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  Speaker 2: mean he is now in the circle of trust? No, never. No.
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  Speaker 2: Barbara says, love this channel. Thank you, Barbara. We appreciate
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  Speaker 2: you being here. Hardy Jens wants to know, broadcast team tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: Is this?
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  Speaker 1: CBS.
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  Speaker 2: It's CBS. So is this?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I was going to say, I don't think Gary Danielson's
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  Speaker 2: on this anymore.
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  Speaker 1: It's so– I've not watched any of the– here's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: We don't get to watch a lot of the stuff.
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  Speaker 1: And when we do, it's like really quick cuts.
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  Speaker 2: We never get to watch the CBS game because if
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  Speaker 2: it's a noon game, we're doing the post-game show. We
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: don't get to watch it. If it's a 3.30 game,
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  Speaker 2: we're working. We don't get to watch it. If it's
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  Speaker 2: a night game– just kidding. Ohio State doesn't play night games.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't even know CBS had games. In the unlikely
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  Speaker 2: event that they did, we would be doing pregame stuff
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  Speaker 2: at that point. So I can tell you who's on
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  Speaker 2: the– like Noah Eagle does the NBC night game because
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  Speaker 2: when Ohio State plays at noon every week, I'm home
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  Speaker 2: to watch that. I have not watched the CBS 3.30
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  Speaker 2: game all season.
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  Speaker 1: Was that Michigan and Iowa last week though? Was it?
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  Speaker 2: I don't remember who was on the call.
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  Speaker 1: See, and that's another thing. I can block that stuff out.
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  Speaker 2: When we're watching the Michigan-Iowa game, we're watching. We're not
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  Speaker 2: listening to the announcers. We're watching and like, okay, what
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  Speaker 2: are they doing in this play? What happened here?
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  Speaker 1: And I'm watching on YouTube and I'm fast-forwarding to the
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  Speaker 1: next play. So I'm cutting out so much of the talking.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not to the point where I mute the TV
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  Speaker 1: and listen to the radio. A lot of people do
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: that because they don't want to hear anything that anybody's saying.
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  Speaker 2: Keith says it's Brad Nessler and Charles Davis. I think
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: it's Brad Nessler and Charles Davis. I thought it was
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  Speaker 2: Brad Nessler.
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  Speaker 1: Brad Nessler is one of the goats.
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  Speaker 2: I'm getting the Iowa commercial breaks are just, here's why
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  Speaker 2: this person is the worst politician in the world, followed
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: by a commercial with that politician smiling and saying, this
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  Speaker 2: is why I'm the best person in the world, and
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: I'm getting... whiplash right now. Any Chuck Long sightings? No,
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  Speaker 2: not as far as I am aware.
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  Speaker 1: I have not seen him nor his curly hair.
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  Speaker 2: No. All right. And Keith says USC is desperate. They're
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: throwing every freshman out there in hopes to strike all
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  Speaker 2: the others. I would advise, if I was Lincoln Riley,
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  Speaker 2: I would do my very best to win a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of football games this year so that I got to
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  Speaker 2: coach USC again next year.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think part of the thought was, well,
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: you can't blame me for our struggles. We're playing a
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: bunch of freshmen, and I got those freshmen here. And
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: the administration's like, well, we kind of got them here. But,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, they've got a lot of really good freshmen
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  Speaker 1: who are going to be there for a while. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: this is a much different team in November than it
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  Speaker 1: is now. Yeah, they've got a lot of talent. Tom,
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  Speaker 1: I'm wondering when we're at USC.
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  Speaker 2: As you– I'm looking at RG3, who's wearing a sport
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: coat the color of Iowa's visiting locker room.
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  Speaker 1: So when Tom is shooting photos, whatever the team is,
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: the opposing team, he's generally going to shoot some photos
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  Speaker 1: of guys who might end up in the portal and
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: might be targets for Ohio State. So how much of
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: your camera roll that you then have to take to
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: lanes and get developed will feature USC players?
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  Speaker 2: And who in particular? Because these guys I think are.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: All tied to long-term deals in terms of colleges.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't thought about USC yet. I will tell you,
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  Speaker 2: I already have Zaheer Mathis and Zion Ealy on my
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: list for next week against Maryland. A lot of times
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: I have pictures of people who transfer somewhere other than
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: Ohio State. But I have a bunch of Chaz Coleman
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  Speaker 2: and a bunch of– The safety from Minnesota, Coy Perich
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  Speaker 2: from last year. I've got a bunch of those. But yeah,
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: every once in a while it's like, Oh, look at that.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: Son of a gun. Got one. How about that? I
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: think we are caught up on questions and just looking
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: at the clock. It's been a long day.
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• 1:11:58
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• 1:12:02
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• 1:12:09
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• 1:12:10
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• 1:12:28
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