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Sharri | 4 June · Sharri

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Speaker 1: Live on Sky News.
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Speaker 2: This is Sharry.
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Speaker 3: I'm sure he will. We'll do that a bit later.
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Speaker 3: Good evening and breaking news tonight that Bondai hero Ahmed
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Speaker 3: al Ahmed has been charged with assaulting his father and
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Speaker 3: police have taken out an AVO against him. This is
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Speaker 3: explosive news about the man who has been celebrated for
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Speaker 3: saving lives when he temporarily disarmed Sajid Akram in the
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Speaker 3: Bondaid terror attack. Ahmed was arrested and charged yesterday over
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Speaker 3: an alleged assault on his elderly father at a home
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Speaker 3: in Bangstown. Seven News broke the story this evening.
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Speaker 4: Yamed ah Lahmed was charged yesterday. The forty four year
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Speaker 4: old is accused of attacking his elderly father in his
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Speaker 4: own home in March, allegedly putting him in a headlock.
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Speaker 4: He is set to face court on July twenty ninth,
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Speaker 4: charged with assault and stalking. Tonight seven News can also
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Speaker 4: so reveal an apprehended violence order has been taken out
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Speaker 4: against him by police and says Ahmed cannot assault, store,
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Speaker 4: harass or even contact his dad. He must also stay
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Speaker 4: one hundred meters away from where he lives and works.
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Speaker 4: Now this comes as the two brothers of Ahmed Ahlahmed
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Speaker 4: face charges as well. They're accused of threatening him over
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Speaker 4: the phone, demanding two hundred thousand dollars. It's alleged to
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Speaker 4: have happened after a fundraiser created to support Ahmed raised
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Speaker 4: more than two and a half million dollars. Seven years
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Speaker 4: contacted the family this afternoon. They declined to comment on
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Speaker 4: the charges or the AVO, and.
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Speaker 3: In a statement tonight, New South Wales Police confirm the news.
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Speaker 3: They said on Sunday fifteenth of March, police received a
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Speaker 3: report of an alleged assault at a home in Bankstown.
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Speaker 3: On Tuesday the ninth of March, officers from Bankstown Police
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Speaker 3: Area Command commenced an investigation. On Wednesday, the third of June,
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Speaker 3: a forty four year old man was served with a
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Speaker 3: cord attendance notice for common assault and stalk, intimidate, intend
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Speaker 3: fear physical harm. Now you'll recall that Ahmed Alahmed tackled
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Speaker 3: Sajed akramat Bondai along with Israeli citizen gefen Biton, who
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Speaker 3: was not far behind. Ahmed took the weapon off Sajed
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Speaker 3: and placed it on the ground against the tree. Sajed
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Speaker 3: then went back to the bridge, where he took another
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Speaker 3: weapon and continued firing. In the wake of this, Hmed
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Speaker 3: received at two point six million dose dollars in donations
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Speaker 3: and he is now due to face Bangstown Local Court
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Speaker 3: on July twenty nine. It's a massive show tonight with
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Speaker 3: Matt Canavan, Brendan O'Neill, Elon Levy, Michael Finger and Dave Sharma.
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Speaker 3: But first, a poll after pole is showing One Nation
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Speaker 3: surging ahead of Labor and not where the political elites
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Speaker 3: expected among women. News today that One Nation's support is
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Speaker 3: booming among female voters and an analysis shows Pauline Hansen
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Speaker 3: has more support among women than men. Now this runs
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Speaker 3: contrary to the narrative that often portrays One Nation as
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Speaker 3: a fringed party of angry white men, and voters were
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Speaker 3: embarrassed or sheepish to admit that they supported One Nation.
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Speaker 3: That was before. But now voters are openly expressing support
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Speaker 3: for Pauline Hansen. This is no longer taboo, and women
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Speaker 3: are resonating with One Nation because it's women who notice,
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Speaker 3: dollar by dollar, the impact of the cost of living
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Speaker 3: crisis and rising inflation. Now, I don't want to be
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Speaker 3: accused of being sexist here, But in my experience, even
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Speaker 3: if women are working full time, they still mostly do
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Speaker 3: the grocery shopping and manage the daily household expenses. It's
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Speaker 3: women noticing the price of a cut of meat, of fruit,
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Speaker 3: of vegetables, of butter, of grated cheese, and just how
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Speaker 3: quickly it's all rising. And to me, this explains the
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Speaker 3: biggest reason why women are deserting. Labor One nation is
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Speaker 3: no longer picking up protest votes. It's tapping into a
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Speaker 3: deeper sentiment of frustration and anger, and not exclusively with
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Speaker 3: the Albanese government, but with the entire political class.
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Speaker 5: Now.
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Speaker 3: Pauline Hansen says that she thinks she hasn't changed, but
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Speaker 3: that Australians have caught up with her, and here she
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Speaker 3: is speaking about why she thinks her support is soaring.
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Speaker 6: People have filled up with the major political parties because
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Speaker 6: they're filling it out in the streets and their suburbs
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Speaker 6: and their homes and their jobs and workforces on the streets.
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Speaker 6: The mass migration has been a driving factor with this,
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Speaker 6: and also cost to living, and.
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Speaker 3: The political and media elite are panicking, especially after Hanson
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Speaker 3: made it clear she was aiming for the top job
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Speaker 3: of prime minister or asked about her ambitions again today
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Speaker 3: in a nine podcast, she questioned why she was disproportionately
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Speaker 3: being asked this question.
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Speaker 6: Even the polls are showing that a lot of supporters
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Speaker 6: coming from people for me to be leader.
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Speaker 3: Now I haven't made.
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Speaker 6: That final decision at all, but at the moment I
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Speaker 6: am the lead the party. Have you got have you
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Speaker 6: have you gone asked? Have you asked Taylor angus Taylor?
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Speaker 7: Have you asked the question he wants?
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Speaker 8: Of course he does.
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Speaker 9: Have you asked him the question what's given?
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Speaker 6: Well, why do you question me then?
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Speaker 8: But you're even saying now that you haven't made your
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Speaker 8: mind up on whether you want to be the prime minister.
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Speaker 6: Because you don't think I can do it.
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Speaker 3: In The Australian's editorial today calls for more scrutiny of
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Speaker 3: One Nation, It says, with a second national opinion poll
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Speaker 3: in a week putting One Nation ahead of Labor with
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Speaker 3: a coalition an abysmal third Senator Hansen and her party
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Speaker 3: warrant serious scrutiny, as Paul Kelly wrote on Tuesday. And
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Speaker 3: Paul Kelly, as you know, has argued that Hanson would
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Speaker 3: not be a better option than Alban Easy as Prime Minister.
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Speaker 2: Pauline Hanson is not fit to be Prime Minister of Australia.
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Speaker 2: She's not equipped to do the job. She can't do
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Speaker 2: the job now I understand the job coming from people.
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Speaker 2: She couldn't be worse than albow Well, I'm here to
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Speaker 2: tell you she could be a lot worse than albow.
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Speaker 3: I tend to disagree with that. I think Australia is
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Speaker 3: in tatters economically and socially under Alban Easy, and I
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Speaker 3: think Hanson couldn't possibly be any worse. Hopefully she would
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Speaker 3: be better now. The coalition is raising criticisms of One Nation,
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Speaker 3: but their criticisms aren't resonating with voters.
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Speaker 10: One Nation on not our enemy, but they are a
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Speaker 10: political opponent. They are trying to take votes and seats
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Speaker 10: off the Liberal Party, and with their increased prominence in
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Speaker 10: the polls brings increased legitimate scrutiny on their performance, on
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Speaker 10: their policies, and their candidates on their conducts.
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Speaker 8: I think the bigger question though, is how does Pauline
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Speaker 8: handle the moderates in her party and how do they
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Speaker 8: have a voice in her party. They've got a broader
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Speaker 8: church than the Liberal party right now. So are those
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Speaker 8: people going to get a voice or will it just
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Speaker 8: be Pauline's way.
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Speaker 3: Well, the coalition is still resisting formal discussions with one
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Speaker 3: nation now. Sources coast to Pauline tell me that this
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Speaker 3: is just reinforcing her position that she'll go it alone
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Speaker 3: and try to get to the top on her own
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Speaker 3: two feet. And this should make the coalition pretty nervous
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Speaker 3: because it's a mirror of the support that arose behind
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Speaker 3: both Donald Trump and Nigel Farage. Hanson, Trump and Farage
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Speaker 3: are the antidote to the typical mold of a politician.
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Speaker 3: They reject talking points, political correctness, and what they lack
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Speaker 3: in process, order and decorum, they make up for in
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Speaker 3: authenticity and trust. And authenticity counts an enormous amount with voters,
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Speaker 3: particularly when they're sick of being lied to an Albanesi's
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Speaker 3: breach of trust with voters as a result of the
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Speaker 3: budget has only pushed more voters into paul Lean's embrace.
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Speaker 3: The Albanese government only has themselves to blame. Now, there's
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Speaker 3: an argument that the Albanesi government's new tax legislation is
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Speaker 3: constitutionally invalid. Let me explain, when introducing a new tax.
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Speaker 3: The constitution makes it clear that the legislation can't include
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Speaker 3: other matters, and the Albanese government's legislation clearly combines the
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Speaker 3: capital gains to negative gearing tax changes with the turndred
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Speaker 3: fifty dollars tax offset. Now here's what the constitution states
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Speaker 3: at section fifty five. I read it today. It says
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Speaker 3: laws imposing taxation shall deal only with the imposition of taxation,
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Speaker 3: and any provision therein dealing with any other matter shall
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Speaker 3: be of no effect. Laws imposing taxation, except laws imposing
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Speaker 3: duties of customs or of excise, shall deal with only
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Speaker 3: one subject of taxation only. Now, the Albanezy government has
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Speaker 3: two bills incognate that they've joined together. The bills are
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Speaker 3: debated together but voted on separately. Both bills impose the
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Speaker 3: new tax regime, with one also providing for the tax
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Speaker 3: offset of two hundred and fifty dollars and the one
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Speaker 3: thousand dollars instant tax deduction. Now, this, in my view,
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Speaker 3: is against the spirit of the Constitution. The government is
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Speaker 3: tackling politically linked but separate measures together in order to
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Speaker 3: put political pressure on the coalition to accept the package
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Speaker 3: as a whole. Now, I asked Shadow Treasurer Tim Wilson
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Speaker 3: about this this afternoon and he said this. He said,
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Speaker 3: the bills that passed the House today include two subjects
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Speaker 3: of taxation, negative gearing and capital gains, and while it
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Speaker 3: would have to be tested in court, does leave a
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Speaker 3: question about its constitutionality. He says, the bigger issue is
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Speaker 3: that the government has combined two tax rises with two
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Speaker 3: tax offsets trying to hide the fact that they're increasing
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Speaker 3: the next net tax take to pretend they're cutting taxes.
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Speaker 3: So he says, they're very quick. Clearly there are questions
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Speaker 3: that would have to be tested in court. Now. Our
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Speaker 3: regular guest Bronwyn Bishop drew this to my attention today
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Speaker 3: and she said this should be contested in court. She said,
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Speaker 3: no doubt this dishonest government will try to find a
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Speaker 3: way to circumvent the constitution. But it is quite clear
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Speaker 3: the spirit of the Constitution says one subject of taxation
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Speaker 3: only and it cannot add anything else in. She says
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Speaker 3: it should be a whole string of bills, so very
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Speaker 3: clear it is against the spirit of the Constitution at
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Speaker 3: least now. I asked the Treasurer's office today whether they
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Speaker 3: had advice on whether their legislation was constitutionally valid. They
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Speaker 3: told me. Treasury considers the provisions of the Constitution in
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Speaker 3: development of all legislation. It provides the Government for presentation
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Speaker 3: to the Parliament for consideration. They say, Treasury is confident
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Speaker 3: that the bills as presented to the Parliament comply with
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Speaker 3: the Constitution an illegally effective and robust Now the Albanezy
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Speaker 3: government will skirt around this, but there could very well
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Speaker 3: be a challenge in the High Court if anyone had
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Speaker 3: the desire to take up the fight. Well, let's turn
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Speaker 3: now to the Barnaby Joyce Blunder on Andrew Bolt's show
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Speaker 3: a bit earlier, as you saw, Bolt asked him whether
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Speaker 3: he thinks permanent residents should be able to own their
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Speaker 3: own homes in Australia.
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Speaker 1: Would that mean that permanent citizens who are also not
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Speaker 1: Australians but permanent residents, sorry, permanent residents, that they would
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Speaker 1: have to sell their houses as.
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Speaker 11: Well become an Australian citizen, comply with the Australian ethos.
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Speaker 11: Commit yourself to this nation and this nation commits itself
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Speaker 11: to you.
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Speaker 1: Does it apply to permanent residents as well?
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Speaker 11: It does? That's my belief in the policy it does.
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Speaker 3: Now. After the interview, and by the way, you know,
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Speaker 3: Bolt afterwards pointed out that that would be quite cruel
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Speaker 3: for four hundred thousand people to have to sell their
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Speaker 3: own homes. Well after the interview, Bolt spoke about how
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Speaker 3: he saw Joyce on set making it at least two
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Speaker 3: phone calls. He didn't play those phone calls. Then Joyce
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Speaker 3: went away. He came back and he said to Andrew,
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Speaker 3: could I please re record my answer to that question.
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Speaker 3: He had a change of position and he wanted to
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Speaker 3: clarify his remarks. Have a look.
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Speaker 11: This policy is formative but on further investigation and discussions
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Speaker 11: with one nation. No, we are not going to be
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Speaker 11: kicking permanent residents out of their house. The concept is
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Speaker 11: quite clear. It is that we want people to progress
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Speaker 11: through to Australian citizenship, but that should not come at
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Speaker 11: the expense of did not come at the expense of
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Speaker 11: permanent residence being divested of their house. It was an
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Speaker 11: issue that needed further clarity. I've got it and that's
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Speaker 11: it now.
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Speaker 3: I think Andrew Bolt handed that really well tonight. He
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Speaker 3: was open and honest and transparent with everyone watching, as
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Speaker 3: he always is. He didn't hide the fact that Barnaby
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Speaker 3: swapped answers he showed it to you, still respecting Barnaby
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Speaker 3: Joyce's privacy, and that he didn't play the panic phone
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Speaker 3: calls that he made on set. Well, let's see what
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Speaker 3: Nationals leader Matt Canavan thinks about this, and he joins
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Speaker 3: me now live from Canberra, Matt, what does this policy
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Speaker 3: confusion say to you about one nation?
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Speaker 2: Look, it's a bit sad for me.
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Speaker 12: I mean, I'm good mates with Barnaby, but that was
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Speaker 12: pretty tough to watch. It was tough because I don't
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Speaker 12: think Barnaby truly believes in the one nation policy. I
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Speaker 12: know him very well and I think he knows that
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Speaker 12: such a policy would be heartless and unnecessarily a divisive
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Speaker 12: in our community. It's ridiculous. But it is the fact
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Speaker 12: that about a year and a half ago, Pauline gave
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Speaker 12: a speech which did suggest this. She spoke in the
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Speaker 12: said about that she wouldn't allow any foreign residents to
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Speaker 12: own their own home in Australia foreign citizens, and she
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Speaker 12: would give them a couple of years to sell their homes.
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Speaker 12: She said that, and I'm not sure if Barnaby was
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Speaker 12: completely across. As you could see there all of the
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Speaker 12: policies he signed up to when he signed up to
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Speaker 12: one nation, but he's getting a quick education in it,
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Speaker 12: and then I'm still the other thing it tells me,
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Speaker 12: Shari's I'm still confused.
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Speaker 1: I actually don't.
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Speaker 12: Know what their policy is because he had two cracks
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Speaker 12: in it there and he's sort of saying now as
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Speaker 12: a change of policy. I've never seen that in one
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Speaker 12: interview of two policy positions. But has it really changed,
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Speaker 12: because as I said Paul Ee and said, there's something
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Speaker 12: eighteen months or so ago, Look, we are the bigger
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Speaker 12: question here for the Australian people, Sharis. I think we're
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Speaker 12: entering in some very precarious economic times and we need,
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Speaker 12: we need some leadership in our country. I don't think
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Speaker 12: we're getting that from miss Governed. I asked and centered
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Speaker 12: estimates today about what that.
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Speaker 3: We'll get you that in a minute, but I've got one.
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Speaker 12: We need someone with a plan and One Nation don't
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Speaker 12: seem to have it at least we just want to.
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Speaker 3: Follow up on that. There've been criticisms from Paul Kelly
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Speaker 3: and others this week that Pauline Hanson isn't fit to
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Speaker 3: be Prime minister. Does this sort of policy contradiction that
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Speaker 3: we've seen live on air tonight reinforce that view that
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Speaker 3: one nation isn't fit to govern the country.
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Speaker 12: Look, it is Pauline and Barnaby and others that are
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Speaker 12: suggesting that they could form governments, and that's what they're
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Speaker 12: apparently aiming for. With that being their aim, they should
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Speaker 12: of course come under scrutiny from you, from everybody, from
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Speaker 12: the Israel people about whether they're up to that. Now, Look,
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Speaker 12: it's just one interview and we all make mistakes, but
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Speaker 12: it doesn't give you a lot of confidence if their
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Speaker 12: policy position is changing mid interview on something as important
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Speaker 12: as this. To me, the original sin here is the
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Speaker 12: idea that was said by their leader, by the preditative
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Speaker 12: Prime Minister Pauline Hanson, that somehow we should force four
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Speaker 12: hundred thousand people who live here to sell our homes
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Speaker 12: in just a couple of years. Think on just any
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Speaker 12: consideration of that, it's crazy. And I certainly don't want
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Speaker 12: to see a sort of guest labor force in our
17:10
Speaker 12: country like in other nations. So if we are going
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Speaker 12: to have migration, and we rerely surely have to have
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Speaker 12: some migration, I don't want to have a two tiered
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Speaker 12: society where people can't have a roof over their head,
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Speaker 12: or can't can't buy a home. If they're here is
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Speaker 12: a permanent residence, well they should do that. Now, we
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Speaker 12: don't think we should be giving welfare to people who
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Speaker 12: aren't citizens. I think that's fair enough. I think it's raight.
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Speaker 12: People know that and want that. But we still want
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Speaker 12: to functioning and harmonious society, not some of the examples
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Speaker 12: we see overseas.
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Speaker 3: Let's get back to the economy. There have been very
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Speaker 3: contradictory statements from Treasury and from RBA, comments that differ
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Speaker 3: from the alban Ezi government when it comes to the
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Speaker 3: tax changes, the impact that we'll have on economic growth
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Speaker 3: and productivity, and Matt, you are so this morning rest
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Speaker 3: Finance of Midday today pressed Finance Minister Katie Gallagher about
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Speaker 3: where the Labour's tax changes would actually improve productivity. If
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Speaker 3: we have that exchange with Katie Gallagher, let's have a look.
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Speaker 12: The biggest technical channels we face is practifically we have
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Speaker 12: never experienced negative productivity growth over a four year period.
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Speaker 12: The first four years of this government has not just
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Speaker 12: been negative, it's a five percent drop. Now the government
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Speaker 12: likes to choose a different base point doesn't matter. It
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Speaker 12: doesn't matter, minister, It doesn't matter if it's three percent
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Speaker 12: from June twenty twenty two takes the do we have
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Speaker 12: never had negative never over a four year period ability,
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Speaker 12: so at least three, maybe five if you want to
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Speaker 12: count the two months in that other quarter.
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Speaker 2: That the first.
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Speaker 12: Responsibility for each charts And I'm just trying to ask,
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Speaker 12: maybe minister, you can ask this what elements of your
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Speaker 12: budget help increase productivity?
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Speaker 9: So there is a a glossy, a four.
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Speaker 3: There glossy brochure. Were you surprised that she's snapped instead
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Speaker 3: of giving you a serious answer about how they'll lift productivity?
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Speaker 12: I was genuinely shocked because that question that I asked
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Speaker 12: just there perhaps wasn't two wives, because it's probably what
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Speaker 12: you call a dixa shari. If you're the finance minister,
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Speaker 12: if you've had you spent a year ago, at least
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Speaker 12: you spent a full three days in a productivity roundtable
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Speaker 12: where you convened all the movers and shakers from business,
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Speaker 12: from unions, from academia to Canberra to talk about productivity,
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Speaker 12: and you said it was the most important economic iss
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Speaker 12: you faced in the country. You'd think if you asked
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Speaker 12: the finance minister in that role the question what is
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Speaker 12: your plan for productivity? They would have a canned answer
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Speaker 12: they could give you. Maybe there's not a lot of them.
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Speaker 12: There might not be a lot in it. Politicians are
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Speaker 12: good at that. But you'd think you have a minute
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Speaker 12: or two you could give a spiel on what you're
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Speaker 12: doing for productivity. And instead we had the embarrassing situation
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Speaker 12: there that our nation's finance minister, the representative of the
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Speaker 12: treasurer there in the Senate today, all she could say
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Speaker 12: is we've got a glossy brochure. We've spent your money
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Speaker 12: on some nice pitches and it's got really nice paper.
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Speaker 12: It's really good paper, and it glosses very brightly under
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Speaker 12: the lights. That's our plan for productivity. And that example there,
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Speaker 12: that little snippet there probably gives you an insight into why,
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Speaker 12: for the first time in recorded economic history, Australia has
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Speaker 12: recorded negative productivity growth over a four year period. It's
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Speaker 12: been in power four years now. And as I said
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Speaker 12: there before, it's not just negative is off the charts.
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Speaker 12: Negative is negative five percent in four years of labor
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Speaker 12: that's why prices are through the roof. That's why your
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Speaker 12: living standards are falling through the floor. That's why we're
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Speaker 12: now seeing even unemployment start to rise as well.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a big problem. Matt Canavan, thanks for joining
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Speaker 3: us as always on a Thursday. All right, let's turn
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Speaker 3: to the UK now to the horrific murder of innocent
20:50
Speaker 3: Henry Noak, who, while being handcuffed, had told police that
20:54
Speaker 3: he had been stabbed and couldn't breathe.
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Speaker 13: You're been stabbed? Whereabouts?
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Speaker 2: Mate?
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Speaker 7: Humbry put the hand in the cuff mate.
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Speaker 3: His murderer, Vickim Diguis lied to police claiming that the
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Speaker 3: eighteen year old had been racist and here was his
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Speaker 3: brother calling emergency services.
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Speaker 1: Just got a racially by on white person. Right, okay,
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Speaker 1: where abouts are you?
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Speaker 2: Well?
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Speaker 13: On Belmont Road?
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Speaker 14: Just quite on my card to come home.
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Speaker 13: And he's attacked my brother.
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Speaker 12: You're talking about verbally or physically?
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Speaker 13: No, No, he's physically cut my brother.
21:36
Speaker 14: Were seats, we wear turban and he's just taped my brother.
21:40
Speaker 3: And now the streets are heaving with protesters. People are
21:43
Speaker 3: white hot with fury that police were more worried about
21:47
Speaker 3: claims of racism than a boy taking his last breath
21:50
Speaker 3: after being stabbed, and they didn't even believe him. It's
21:54
Speaker 3: led to political firestorm and to discuss Spike. Chief political
21:58
Speaker 3: writer Brendan O'Neil joins US live from London. Brennan, thank
22:01
Speaker 3: you for being here. Look, this injustice has really touched
22:05
Speaker 3: a nerve.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, really has. People in this country are furious about
22:10
Speaker 7: this case. It is so horrific, so barbaric. I mean, firstly,
22:14
Speaker 7: you have the killing itself, this horrific murder of a boy,
22:17
Speaker 7: essentially an eighteen year old lad in his first year
22:20
Speaker 7: of university. He was knife to death in Southampton in
22:23
Speaker 7: England in December by Vickram Digwa. And then to make
22:26
Speaker 7: it even worse, the cops turn up, as you say,
22:29
Speaker 7: and you've just shown some of the body cam footage there.
22:32
Speaker 7: They dragged Henry across the gravel of the driveway that
22:35
Speaker 7: he had slumped into. They shoved his hands behind his back,
22:39
Speaker 7: they cuffed him. They accused him of lying. They said,
22:41
Speaker 7: I don't think you have mate. When he said that
22:43
Speaker 7: he'd been stabbed in that moment, he said I can't
22:47
Speaker 7: breathe nine times, and he said I've been stabbed four times.
22:51
Speaker 7: They didn't believe him, and he died a couple of
22:54
Speaker 7: moments later. It's so horrendous and it raises so many questions,
22:58
Speaker 7: not only about the evil of the killer, but about
23:01
Speaker 7: the complicity of the state when it enacts two tier policing.
23:05
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it shows just the extent to which identity
23:08
Speaker 3: politics has infused policing. I was going to say the
23:12
Speaker 3: justice system, but he has been sentenced to twenty one
23:14
Speaker 3: years this week. The perpetrator, now, Nigel Farage, has come
23:18
Speaker 3: out pretty strongly on this. He has been accused of
23:21
Speaker 3: exploiting the tragedy. What's your view on this.
23:25
Speaker 7: He's not exploiting the tragedy at all. I think when
23:28
Speaker 7: Farage said that he feels pure cold rage over this killing,
23:32
Speaker 7: he was speaking for many people in this country, because
23:35
Speaker 7: that's exactly how I felt when I watched the body
23:37
Speaker 7: cam footage. That's how millions of people felt when they
23:40
Speaker 7: saw this horrific footage of a boy taking his final
23:43
Speaker 7: breaths and all he can hear are the libelous slanders
23:47
Speaker 7: of his killer, calling him a racist, and the arresting
23:50
Speaker 7: the comments of the arresting officers. That is an awful,
23:53
Speaker 7: unspeakable way for this boy to have died. So people
23:56
Speaker 7: are furious about this, and as you say, it raises
23:58
Speaker 7: huge questions about identify politics because the police in this
24:02
Speaker 7: country are overrun with critical race theory. They are expressly
24:06
Speaker 7: trained to see non white people as victims and to
24:10
Speaker 7: see white people as potentially problematic. They are taught to
24:13
Speaker 7: believe every accusation of a hate crime. That's why the
24:16
Speaker 7: victim Digwa family played the racism card, because they knew
24:20
Speaker 7: that the police would have to respond in the way
24:22
Speaker 7: that they did. So this raises questions about the wokeness
24:26
Speaker 7: that is infusing our institutions and what we're going to
24:29
Speaker 7: do to dismantle it.
24:30
Speaker 3: It's hard to believe that Keir Starmer is still your
24:33
Speaker 3: prime Minister. We have been reporting so many times that
24:36
Speaker 3: he was on the verge of going, but how do
24:38
Speaker 3: you think this will impact him. He was very slow
24:41
Speaker 3: to respond in a strong way on this.
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Speaker 7: You know, the really sickening thing is that Keir Starmer
24:47
Speaker 7: and virtually our entire political establishment took the need for
24:50
Speaker 7: George Floyd when he was killed in Minneapolis in twenty twenty.
24:55
Speaker 7: None of them have done it for Henry Novak. None
24:57
Speaker 7: of them have done it for this boy who was
24:58
Speaker 7: so horribly killed and then so badly mistreated by the
25:02
Speaker 7: police when he was dying. Henry Novak also said, I
25:05
Speaker 7: can't breathe. Those were his last words, just like they
25:08
Speaker 7: were the last words of George Floyd. And yet our
25:11
Speaker 7: ruling class takes the nee for a man who died
25:13
Speaker 7: four thousand miles away, but not for this boy who
25:16
Speaker 7: died right here in England. It is such a disgusting
25:19
Speaker 7: double standard and it really shows up in the figure
25:22
Speaker 7: of Keir Starmer. He felt more grief, more passion for
25:26
Speaker 7: the death of a career criminal a whole ocean away
25:29
Speaker 7: than he does for this sweet, tender kid who lived
25:33
Speaker 7: right here in Britain. So that's the problem we have,
25:35
Speaker 7: and it really has exposed the double standards of the
25:38
Speaker 7: people who rule over us.
25:39
Speaker 3: It has, indeed, and I mean, you've just put it
25:42
Speaker 3: so well there, but it reinforces how just horrific it
25:44
Speaker 3: would have been for eighteen year old Henry to be
25:47
Speaker 3: trying to get medical attention. And I don't think we've
25:50
Speaker 3: quite emphasized this, but no one called the emergency services.
25:54
Speaker 3: They put handcuffs on him, they arrested him, but they
25:57
Speaker 3: didn't call emergency services. My understanding is he actually died
26:02
Speaker 3: before that call was made, or he lost consciousness at
26:04
Speaker 3: least before the call was made.
26:07
Speaker 7: That's right. The police simply refused to believe him. He
26:11
Speaker 7: said he'd been stabbed, he said he couldn't breathe, he
26:13
Speaker 7: was obviously in medical distress. He was groaning, he was
26:16
Speaker 7: on the ground. It would have been clear to anyone,
26:19
Speaker 7: an ordinary member of the public, never mind a trained
26:22
Speaker 7: police officer, that this was a kid in severe distress.
26:25
Speaker 7: But no call was made to the emergency services because
26:30
Speaker 7: the killer was saying he hasn't been stabbed. The killer
26:33
Speaker 7: was saying, he's just a racist, he's a drunk, and
26:36
Speaker 7: the police believed his lies. It is beyond horrific what
26:40
Speaker 7: the police did that evening. And the thing is Henry
26:43
Speaker 7: was crying out to be believed. The only thing he
26:46
Speaker 7: had going for him in that awful moment was the
26:49
Speaker 7: belief of other people. If they had believed, maybe something
26:52
Speaker 7: could have been done. But they didn't believe him. And
26:55
Speaker 7: heads need to roll over such an injustice.
26:57
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely terrible. O'Neil, thank you so much for being
27:01
Speaker 3: here again. Now, as you know, labor has rammed its
27:06
Speaker 3: budget bill through the lower House to height capital gains
27:10
Speaker 3: tax and curb negative gearing, but it does face a
27:13
Speaker 3: fight in the Senate, and the Coalition is now reportedly
27:16
Speaker 3: in talks with the Greens to try to force a
27:18
Speaker 3: longer inquiry. I Thin Review reports tonight that there were
27:22
Speaker 3: formal discussions on Wednesday that involved the Greens supporting a
27:25
Speaker 3: longer inquiry into the budget measures in return for the
27:29
Speaker 3: Coalition doing the same for a separate bill to cut
27:31
Speaker 3: the cost of the NDIS by thirty seven billion over
27:34
Speaker 3: the next four years. All right, let's bring in now
27:37
Speaker 3: Liberal Senator Dave Sharma. Dave, is the Coalition going to
27:42
Speaker 3: do a deal with the Greens in order to block
27:45
Speaker 3: Labour's tax laws?
27:47
Speaker 9: Well, Sharry, we'll work with whoever we can in the
27:50
Speaker 9: Parliament to knock out Labour's toxic taxes. That's our fundamental principle.
27:55
Speaker 9: If the Greens were spared to work with us to
27:57
Speaker 9: do that, great, If you know, defecting lay MPs are
28:00
Speaker 9: willing to do that, great, If any of the cross
28:02
Speaker 9: Bench you're willing to do that will also take their support.
28:05
Speaker 9: Because for us, the biggest thing to defeat here is
28:08
Speaker 9: labor's toxic taxes for which they don't have a mandate,
28:11
Speaker 9: which you're going to do immense damage to the economy,
28:13
Speaker 9: which you're going to hurt enterprise and aspiration, and they're
28:16
Speaker 9: going to set our nation backwards.
28:18
Speaker 3: So currently Labors set aside two days for an inquiry.
28:22
Speaker 3: How long would the new inquiry be how into labour's
28:26
Speaker 3: tax changes under the discussions the coalitions having with the Greens, Look.
28:31
Speaker 9: Two days is you know, it's clearly not a genuine inquiry, right,
28:35
Speaker 9: I mean we're already hearing from business groups and industry
28:40
Speaker 9: groups and affected families, family trust members, all that sort of.
28:43
Speaker 9: I mean, all these people rightfully want to be heard
28:46
Speaker 9: because this has been this is an ambush. There was
28:50
Speaker 9: no groundwork prepared, there was no warning given, there was
28:52
Speaker 9: no election commitment taken, nothing. And I think for a
28:55
Speaker 9: genuine inquiry that allows people to actually express their views
28:59
Speaker 9: and to be listed, and for some of the unintended
29:02
Speaker 9: and quite severe consequences of these changes to be properly litigated,
29:07
Speaker 9: you know, I think you need at least several weeks
29:09
Speaker 9: would be my view. You know, six to eight weeks
29:11
Speaker 9: would be normal for something like this with at least,
29:14
Speaker 9: you know, five to six days of public hearings and
29:18
Speaker 9: plenty of time for people to make submissions and for
29:20
Speaker 9: the parliamentarians who are sitting on this committee to actually
29:23
Speaker 9: read the submissions and engage in in good faith.
29:26
Speaker 3: Labour doesn't want to putting to the Greens. That's what
29:28
Speaker 3: you're putting to the Greens in an inquiry around six
29:31
Speaker 3: to eight weeks with five days of public hearings.
29:34
Speaker 9: Look, I'm not part of those negotiations. I don't want
29:37
Speaker 9: to mislead your viewers or you, but I think something
29:41
Speaker 9: of this nature and that's this involved in this complicated
29:44
Speaker 9: That would be a normal parliamentary procedure and that's what
29:46
Speaker 9: we should be having at the very least for these
29:50
Speaker 9: dramatic and wide raging changes.
29:52
Speaker 3: The South Australian Premier Peter malanowskis I mean, he's now
29:55
Speaker 3: the third Labor premier to come out and have a
29:57
Speaker 3: swipe at Albanezi today. He said that is that his
30:00
Speaker 3: own government is keeping its promise not to spring unexpected
30:04
Speaker 3: taxes on voters.
30:05
Speaker 15: Have a look, we are honoring our commitment to not
30:10
Speaker 15: create new taxes to justify expenditure because we've been restrained
30:15
Speaker 15: in our expenditure.
30:17
Speaker 1: We're not having to.
30:17
Speaker 15: Increase taxes in a way that was unexpected by anybody.
30:23
Speaker 15: That's an important principle, not politically but as a matter
30:27
Speaker 15: of policy.
30:29
Speaker 3: Yeah, Dave, pretty clear swipe there.
30:33
Speaker 9: It is a pretty clear swipe there. And you know,
30:35
Speaker 9: as you said, it's the third Labor prime minister now,
30:37
Speaker 9: after Premier Chris Mins and the Sorry Premier and the
30:42
Speaker 9: Wa Premiere too. And I think the point he makes
30:44
Speaker 9: us quite clear. I mean he's saying here that honoring
30:46
Speaker 9: their commitments because it's partly about keeping faith with the
30:51
Speaker 9: voters politics, but it's also about policy. It's about allowing
30:54
Speaker 9: business and investors to plan and make arrangements with certainty.
30:58
Speaker 9: Whereas if you're a small business signer in Australia, or
31:02
Speaker 9: you're someone who runs your small business through a family trust,
31:05
Speaker 9: or you've bought an asset with a view to saving
31:07
Speaker 9: money and accumulating wealth, you've had the rug pulled out
31:09
Speaker 9: from under you because of this government's tax changes in
31:12
Speaker 9: this budget.
31:15
Speaker 3: Dave, just to take you back to an unhappy period
31:17
Speaker 3: in your life, sorry to do that again, but when
31:19
Speaker 3: you lost the seat for Wentworth, part of that move
31:23
Speaker 3: was because female voters were deserting the Coalition. We're really
31:27
Speaker 3: fascinating analysis and report in the Herald today that shows
31:30
Speaker 3: women are backing One Nation. This is a pretty interesting trend.
31:35
Speaker 3: What do you put it down to?
31:40
Speaker 9: Look, I've seen that. I mean, you know, like everyone else,
31:43
Speaker 9: all I can do is, you know, make some guesses
31:46
Speaker 9: here and what not. But you know, we have seen
31:49
Speaker 9: a reaction against the major parties. Where's the liberals? I
31:53
Speaker 9: accept Angus Taylor, the leader, has accepted that we've we've
31:56
Speaker 9: lost some goodwill and some trust to the public that
31:59
Speaker 9: we need to rebuild. And you know, as a result,
32:01
Speaker 9: I think we've lost voters and you know that they're
32:03
Speaker 9: finding homes in all different places, but One Nation is
32:05
Speaker 9: obviously one of those places. Now, my view is not
32:08
Speaker 9: is that that is not a permanent occupancy. This is
32:11
Speaker 9: a temporary arrangement. But it is incumbent on us as
32:14
Speaker 9: liberals and Nationals and the Coalition to rebuild our credibility
32:18
Speaker 9: in our stock so people recognize that we are a
32:21
Speaker 9: genuine alternative to a bad labor government.
32:23
Speaker 3: There's Look, there's a lot of discussion about how One
32:26
Speaker 3: Nation and the Coalition should do some sort of come
32:30
Speaker 3: to a formal arrangement, whether it's preferences or a more
32:33
Speaker 3: formal governing arrangement, so that they can overthrow the urb
32:36
Speaker 3: and easy government. But it has also been put to
32:38
Speaker 3: me by moderate liberals that if this were to be
32:40
Speaker 3: the case, it would make it even more difficult to
32:43
Speaker 3: win back the so called teal seats. What's your view?
32:48
Speaker 9: Well, look, my view is we should be seeking to
32:50
Speaker 9: govern in our own right as a coalition, as we
32:53
Speaker 9: have always done. And I think you know the people
32:57
Speaker 9: who are out there speculating about these sorts of things,
32:59
Speaker 9: of them, you know, commentators and opinion makers, and that's fine.
33:03
Speaker 9: They've got a living to warn and they've got these
33:04
Speaker 9: ideas to offer. But that's not the game that we're in,
33:08
Speaker 9: and nor should we be entertaining that as liberalsm And
33:10
Speaker 9: it's like saying, oh, now we're going to go out
33:12
Speaker 9: and play on the football field, but let's bet against
33:14
Speaker 9: ourselves so we hedge our losses. I mean, that's not
33:16
Speaker 9: how you conduct politics. We should be out there contesting
33:18
Speaker 9: to win and to govern in our own right. And
33:21
Speaker 9: I firmly believe that we have an opportunity because this
33:24
Speaker 9: Labor government has shown its true hand and it's true
33:27
Speaker 9: colour as a high taxing, high spending government that will
33:29
Speaker 9: break all its promises, that will run the economy into
33:32
Speaker 9: the ground, that will bring a form of socialism to Australia.
33:35
Speaker 9: That is our opportunity and we need to season it
33:37
Speaker 9: and we can capitalize on them.
33:40
Speaker 3: All right, Dave Sharma, great to see you as always,
33:42
Speaker 3: Thank you. Now still to come a controversial new law
33:46
Speaker 3: that will allow drug drivers if they have a cannabis prescription.
33:51
Speaker 3: Plus the young families who may lose their homes as
33:54
Speaker 3: a result of the toxic budget. Property market veteran Michael
33:58
Speaker 3: Finger will join me here after the break. Well reports
34:04
Speaker 3: today that young families face financial ruin as a result
34:08
Speaker 3: of changes in the budget. The Australian gave the example
34:12
Speaker 3: today of Harry Nan, who saved for years to get
34:15
Speaker 3: a sixty thousand dollar deposit. He then used the government's
34:19
Speaker 3: five percent first home buyer deposit scheme to buy an
34:23
Speaker 3: eight hundred and thirty thousand dollar property. He then paid
34:27
Speaker 3: for one hundred and eighty thousand dollars renovation, hoping that
34:30
Speaker 3: the reno would increase the property in value to up
34:34
Speaker 3: to one point one million dollars. But this week evaluation
34:39
Speaker 3: placed his home at just eight hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Well,
34:44
Speaker 3: to break it down, I'm now joined by Australian property
34:46
Speaker 3: market veteran Michael Finger. Michael, thanks for being here, Thanks
34:50
Speaker 3: for having me. Now, there are so many young families
34:53
Speaker 3: like Harry who would be worried about their home reducing
34:57
Speaker 3: in value and negative equity.
34:59
Speaker 2: There's a lot of.
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Speaker 16: Fear at the moment. I mean when I speak to
35:02
Speaker 16: people generally around the table, around the kitchen table, I
35:05
Speaker 16: think everyone's very confused about what's going on at the
35:08
Speaker 16: moment in terms of the taxes are going to come in.
35:11
Speaker 16: I think the dads are thinking, well, what's going to
35:13
Speaker 16: happen to our super what's going to happen to all
35:16
Speaker 16: the money we've saved up, what's going to be left over?
35:18
Speaker 16: And the moms are worrying about are they going to
35:20
Speaker 16: be able to feed the family? You know, and then
35:22
Speaker 16: the young kids that are trying to save up that
35:24
Speaker 16: I've been mentoring over many years. You know, it was
35:28
Speaker 16: really easy when there was a bit of a leverage
35:29
Speaker 16: with the negative gearing. Now it's changing and it's going
35:33
Speaker 16: to be very very hard for them to save to
35:35
Speaker 16: be able to buy something.
35:36
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I mean that's the point. You know,
35:38
Speaker 3: the government has pitched this as allowing more people to
35:40
Speaker 3: get into the market, but Australians are also losing a
35:44
Speaker 3: pathway to build wealth.
35:45
Speaker 16: Here pulling up the ladder. Literally, it's going to be
35:48
Speaker 16: extremely difficult. I mean, in the past, for every dollar
35:51
Speaker 16: you put in, the government was putting a dollar in.
35:53
Speaker 3: Now you've got to earn.
35:54
Speaker 16: Four dollars, pay the tax, two dollars left. You've got
35:58
Speaker 16: to earn the two dollars then to pay for the property.
36:01
Speaker 16: And it's going to be really hard. And the way
36:04
Speaker 16: interest rates are at the moment, it's going to be
36:06
Speaker 16: very hard for people to pay back their loans. They're
36:09
Speaker 16: going to be in a really tough situation.
36:11
Speaker 3: And as you know, a lot of young people did
36:13
Speaker 3: rent veesting, you know, they buy a property, rented out
36:16
Speaker 3: until they could afford to move in.
36:17
Speaker 16: Yeah, they were buying property, renting it out, waiting for
36:21
Speaker 16: the value to go up either and maybe negative negative,
36:24
Speaker 16: hear it again and then buy something else and or
36:27
Speaker 16: move into the property later on when they got married
36:29
Speaker 16: or whatever, and or sell it and buy a house.
36:31
Speaker 16: And that's not going to happen.
36:33
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we've seen some you know, some figures
36:36
Speaker 3: already in the few weeks since the budget. The clearance
36:39
Speaker 3: rate just collapsed last weekend. What are you noticing on
36:42
Speaker 3: the ground and your colleagues.
36:45
Speaker 16: Less people coming through properties. Obviously they're just sitting back
36:48
Speaker 16: at the moment, not knowing what's going to happen, what
36:50
Speaker 16: to do next. A lot of I've spoken to quite
36:52
Speaker 16: a few accountants and they are getting calls left, right
36:54
Speaker 16: and center making appointments on how people can move their
36:58
Speaker 16: money around and be able to use it to either
37:01
Speaker 16: reinvest in something else or take it out of current
37:03
Speaker 16: investments so they don't have to pay the tax down
37:05
Speaker 16: the track. So there is a lot of nervousness there.
37:08
Speaker 3: And so we spoke about the young buyas. But then
37:12
Speaker 3: at the other end of the market, you know, retirees
37:15
Speaker 3: if they're going to have to if they're worrying about
37:18
Speaker 3: the amount of capital gains tax they're going to have
37:20
Speaker 3: to pay moving into the future. Again, that's not going
37:23
Speaker 3: to encourage them to sell their house.
37:25
Speaker 16: And that's creating the nervousness because it starts from the
37:28
Speaker 16: top down. They're helping their kids as well. Some of
37:30
Speaker 16: the people and they're going to have less money to spend,
37:33
Speaker 16: so they're not going to do renovations or they're not
37:35
Speaker 16: going to go on holidays. They're going to hold back.
37:37
Speaker 16: And I know a lot of people that are actually
37:38
Speaker 16: doing that right now. The second sort of second guessing
37:41
Speaker 16: and thinking about what they're going to do in fact's the.
37:43
Speaker 3: Whole economy, and right packed on the construction industry exactly.
37:46
Speaker 16: Yeah, building builders are I've been speaking to builders. I've
37:50
Speaker 16: got some good friends at the builders, and that works
37:52
Speaker 16: dropping off at the moment. So people are putting people off.
37:56
Speaker 16: So it's going to affect everything. And people that are
37:59
Speaker 16: starting out that are looking to invest in new businesses,
38:03
Speaker 16: they won't have the money. They build up their wealth
38:06
Speaker 16: in their first property that they buy, sell it off,
38:09
Speaker 16: take the cash and put it into a business so
38:11
Speaker 16: they can grow it. It's not going to happen. Not
38:13
Speaker 16: going to happen.
38:13
Speaker 3: So the moment we are seeing a downturn, the RBA
38:16
Speaker 3: has already you know, there's already clear evidence that the
38:20
Speaker 3: RBA's factoring in a property downturn. Do you think it
38:23
Speaker 3: could get worse than that? That we could be looking
38:26
Speaker 3: at a potential collapse in the housing market.
38:30
Speaker 16: Australia is a funny place. I mean, real estate is
38:32
Speaker 16: really important to the Australians. I don't see a collapse,
38:34
Speaker 16: but I can see it slowing down significantly in the
38:37
Speaker 16: medium term anyway, until people work out that they're going
38:40
Speaker 16: to have to earn more money to buy real estate
38:43
Speaker 16: and the interest if the interest rates keep going up,
38:45
Speaker 16: it's going to make it even more difficult for them.
38:47
Speaker 3: The thing is, I mean, you know, Labour thinks it's
38:49
Speaker 3: a great thing that property prices are falling, but for
38:52
Speaker 3: most Australians, their home is their biggest asset and no
38:55
Speaker 3: one wants their wealth to decline.
38:57
Speaker 16: Well, it makes it even hard because the interest rates
39:00
Speaker 16: are going up, and now the banks are actually pulling
39:02
Speaker 16: back on what they're lending, the lvrs, changing the loan
39:05
Speaker 16: ratio that they're giving to people. I know some people
39:09
Speaker 16: that we're going to borrow seven hundred and fifty thousand.
39:11
Speaker 16: The bank turned around only a few days ago and
39:13
Speaker 16: said we can only give you four eighty now, and now.
39:16
Speaker 5: How do you catch up with the growth as well?
39:19
Speaker 16: You can't do it. It just doesn't work.
39:20
Speaker 3: Yeah, total disaster. Mike Fingergrease, Yeah, thank you, all right,
39:25
Speaker 3: still to come. The roads in New South Wales may
39:27
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Speaker 3: Donald Trump answers questions about just how fiery his phone
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Speaker 3: call with neddi Yao who was. I'll play you his
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Speaker 3: comments after the break Welcome Back. Australian journalist Miranda Devine
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Speaker 3: sat down for an interview with President Trump and she
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Speaker 3: asked him about the reports of his fiery phone call
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Speaker 3: with Ned and Yahuxios reported that you had a phone
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Speaker 3: call with bb netanyaw who the Prime Minister of Israel,
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Speaker 3: in which you were angry with him. He said, are
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Speaker 3: you effing crazy?
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Speaker 13: What are you effing doing?
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Speaker 3: I helped you stay out of jail. Is that true?
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Speaker 3: Did you speak to him in those ties?
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Speaker 13: I did, I al we say angry. I was a
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Speaker 13: little bit perturbed at his uh constantly fighting with Lebanon,
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Speaker 13: you know. At some point said bb We're going to
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Speaker 13: stap this. We've got to stap it. But I have
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Speaker 13: a very good relationship. We've done well, done well together.
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Speaker 13: I'm a wartime president, he's a wartime prime minister. Very
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Speaker 13: important part of the world.
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Speaker 3: The former Israeli government spokesman Elon Levy joins me live
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Speaker 3: from Israel. Elon. Look, Trump is great. He said they've
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Speaker 3: got a good relationship with Bibi, but he says Israel
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Speaker 3: keeps fighting with Lebanon. Just tonight, there's breaking news reports
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Speaker 3: that hesb Lot, the terrorist group, has rejected the latest
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Speaker 3: ceasefire deal.
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Speaker 14: You know, what are you going to do when an
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Speaker 14: Iranian back terrorist group is firing missiles and drones at
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Speaker 14: your citizens' homes. What would Australia do if it were
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Speaker 14: under attack from a terrorist organization just a few meters
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Speaker 14: away from the border. I think you have to be
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Speaker 14: pretty efn crazy to be the prime minister of a
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Speaker 14: country that's under attack from terrorist groups in every direction.
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Speaker 14: A prime Minister Netanyahu is under pressure to be even
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Speaker 14: more ef in crazy and stand up to President Trump
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Speaker 14: and say we're a sovereign state that's going to make
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Speaker 14: its own decisions about its security. But Shari, I'll tell
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Speaker 14: you what's efn crazy. It's the fact that has Vola,
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Speaker 14: an Iranian backed terrorist army, is still firing drones and
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Speaker 14: missiles at houses in Israel. What's crazy is that Lebanon
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Speaker 14: won't stop them, and the UN peacekeepers are sitting there
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Speaker 14: like sitting ducks watching utterly useless. And what's crazy is
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Speaker 14: the whole world thinks it's normal that Iran is making
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Speaker 14: demands about Lebanon, as if it's some Iranian colony rather
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Speaker 14: than a country that's trying to break free from the
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Speaker 14: Islamic Republic and hopefully move towards peace with Israel after
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Speaker 14: it dismantles Hezbola.
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Speaker 3: Well, Elan, isn't this the problem. Israel has its hands
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Speaker 3: tied because of the pressure from Trump, but yet Hezbla
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Speaker 3: is okay to reject the ceasefire deal as it's reportedly
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Speaker 3: done tonight. Sky News UK is reporting that, and it
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Speaker 3: keeps firing rockets and drones at northern Israel.
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Speaker 14: Israel and Lebanon one a peace agreement. The problem is
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Speaker 14: this Iranian back terrorist group in the middle that is
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Speaker 14: determined to keep aladdin On a failed state and keep
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Speaker 14: attacking Israeli Holmes shari I don't think Australian viewers understand
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Speaker 14: what's going on in northern Israel. The towns on the border,
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Speaker 14: they're ghost towns. Anyone who can get out gets out.
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Speaker 14: Schools are being held only if you can get to
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Speaker 14: a rocket shelter within fifteen seconds. People are leaving Israelis
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Speaker 14: want to go back to their normal lives, and that
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Speaker 14: means this Iranian back terrorist group cannot keep firing missiles
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Speaker 14: at them. And that's why it's important that this cease
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Speaker 14: fire basically tells Israel, if Hezbola doesn't off it has
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Speaker 14: Bolla doesn't stop shooting, well you have every justification to
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Speaker 14: go after this terrorist group because America wouldn't put up
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Speaker 14: with this threat to its civilians, and neither should you.
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Speaker 3: Exactly. Meanwhile, Kuwait has said that Around launched thirteen ballistic
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Speaker 3: missiles and seventeen drones against it in a dawn attack
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Speaker 3: that shut down its international airport, killed in Indian national
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Speaker 3: and engine doesn't so it doesn't look like the ceasefire
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Speaker 3: with Iran's holding either. I mean the Gulf States are
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Speaker 3: under attack still.
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Speaker 14: Every day that goes by, we get another reminder of
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Speaker 14: why the Islamic Republic of Iran is the number one
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Speaker 14: threat to security in the Middle East and why it's
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Speaker 14: critical that it be defined. Any deal with Iran must
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Speaker 14: include not only the nuclear program, but also the ballistic
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Speaker 14: missiles and the drones that it's firing at all its neighbors,
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Speaker 14: including ones that aren't even parties to the hostilities against Iran.
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Speaker 14: The Gulf countries realize this war cannot end with Iran
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Speaker 14: licking its wounds, vowing revenge, being free to attack international
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Speaker 14: airports across the region whenever it wants to. They want
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Speaker 14: a comprehensive deal that doesn't just promise that the Ayatolas
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Speaker 14: will never go nuclear, will also address the whole threat
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Speaker 14: of Iranian aggression. They've shown us what they're capable of doing.
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Speaker 14: They can't be allowed to have weapons.
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Speaker 3: To do that again, just very very quickly. Are you
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Speaker 3: worried at just how desperate Trump is to get out
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Speaker 3: before the job's done.
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Speaker 14: I think President Trump wants to get out, but he
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Speaker 14: also understands there's no way he can get out without
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Speaker 14: the Iranians meeting a certain minimum of dismantling the Iranian
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Speaker 14: nuclear program. He knows he cannot accept a deal that
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Speaker 14: is like Obama's disastrous JCPOA. He railed against it enough,
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Speaker 14: and so the President wants out. I think it's legitimate
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Speaker 14: to want to want out of the war at any
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Speaker 14: costant I think he knows that Elon.
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Speaker 3: Levy always love having you on the show. Thank you
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Speaker 3: very much. Still to come Chris Men's controversial new laws
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Speaker 3: around driving on medical cannabis. That's next. We're big news
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Speaker 3: today that the New South Wales government has introducing new
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Speaker 3: laws which essentially green light drug driving. It means that
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Speaker 3: motorists who are prescribed medical cannabis who tests positive to
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Speaker 3: a smaller amount of the drug won't be charged. Joining
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Speaker 3: me now, is trauma surgeon doctor John Crozier, John, so
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Speaker 3: is marijuana if it's medically prescribed? Can this still impair driving.
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Speaker 5: Or cannabis in a person materially to grades driving skill?
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Speaker 5: In New South Wales alone last year, of the three
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Speaker 5: hundred and sixty deaths, fifty of them had cannabis on
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Speaker 5: board the driver as a significant variable involved in the
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Speaker 5: fatal craw So we have a clear and present danger
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Speaker 5: of the driver's cannabis affected on New Southway roads.
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Speaker 3: Currently, and this is the same if it's medically prescribed.
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Speaker 5: I'm a health professional. I resent the use of the
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Speaker 5: word medicinal in front of the word cannabis, and particularly
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Speaker 5: when it comes to driving. So we are all being
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Speaker 5: played by a cannabis lobby that's very sophisticated and framing
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Speaker 5: it so that we normalize medicinal as an adjective in
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Speaker 5: front of cannabis. We don't do medicinal alcohol, We don't
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Speaker 5: do medicinal opiate yep, and the same must be the
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Speaker 5: case with cannabis.
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Speaker 3: To me, this is an accident waiting to happen a
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Speaker 3: driver in a school zone. I mean, how does it
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Speaker 3: impair the functions that would impact on driving?
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Speaker 5: So there are several high level scientific studies. There are
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Speaker 5: eight executive functions involved in the task, the complex task
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Speaker 5: of driving. Every one of them is affected adversely by
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Speaker 5: any t hat C in the system of the driver,
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Speaker 5: and there is a proportional response.
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Speaker 2: But if you have zero point.
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Speaker 5: One nanogram per mile, you're driving as adversely effective. If
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Speaker 5: that point one nanogram per mile is t hat C,
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Speaker 5: if you're at point five, you are impaired, and at
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Speaker 5: point nine you are dangerously driving and probably unaware of
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Speaker 5: it as a tight C affected person.
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Speaker 3: Now, how easy is it for people to get a prescription?
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Speaker 3: So for someone to have taken marijuana, whether it's medicinal
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Speaker 3: or not, but say to the police officer who pulls
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Speaker 3: them over, oh, I have a prescription.
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Speaker 2: Have a look.
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Speaker 5: So it's extraordinarily easy. So every every week, ten thousand
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Speaker 5: scripts are is it online in New South Wales ten thousand?
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Speaker 5: Online and you go to that online provider.
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Speaker 3: Don't tell everyone how to do it oversea.
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Speaker 9: Not do that.
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Speaker 5: It is so easy and that's the issue. So you
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Speaker 5: go to the portal, you get the script authorized by
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Speaker 5: a online doctor who doesn't know you, who doesn't know
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Speaker 5: what medication you're on. You can then be invited to
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Speaker 5: scroll down and purchase. Overnight the entity will be couriod.
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Speaker 3: So is the situation I describe? Is that a real
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Speaker 3: possibility that you could have young men on drugs and
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Speaker 3: they just say to the police, well, I've got a prescription.
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Speaker 5: We currently we know that. So from the evidence on
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Speaker 5: the Transport for New South Wales portal, this is open,
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Speaker 5: freely available. Forty percent of people who have a script,
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Speaker 5: who are detected at the roadside, forty percent of them
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Speaker 5: with a script admit to nonlicit purchase of cannabinoid containing product.
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Speaker 5: So this is a smoke screen and as I say,
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Speaker 5: we are being lulled into an acceptance and a normalization
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Speaker 5: of a psychoactive drug.
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Speaker 3: It's also mixed messaging, isn't it to tell people oh,
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Speaker 3: it's okay to drive.
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Speaker 5: On absolutely and we also send a very mixed signal.
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Speaker 5: So if you have a script from a doctor and
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Speaker 5: you have a detected cannabis content on board, you'll let off.
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Speaker 5: But the person behind you at the same level who
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Speaker 5: doesn't have that letter from a doctor plays a significant
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Speaker 5: penalty that is inequitus.
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Speaker 3: Why do you think the governments agreed to this.
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Speaker 5: They've given a greater concession to the cannabis consuming element
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Speaker 5: of our community than they have as a road safety
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Speaker 5: component of legislation pertaining to road.
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Speaker 3: Safety industapolans critical patient safe, well safety, pedestrian safety, driver safety,
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Speaker 3: that should absolutely come first, Doctor John Crazier, lovely to
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Speaker 3: have you here. Thank you very much, so worrying, especially
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Speaker 3: as a parent. All right, well, thank you everyone for
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Speaker 3: your company this week, and I'll see you on Monday
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Speaker 3: at eight pm and have a great weekend. And right
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Speaker 3: now in the man cave is Paul Murray.