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The IU Report with Grant Shouse & Mike Hutsell (2.224.2) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

• 0:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Welcome back, IU fans, to the IE report here outside on the Central Indiana Sports Report.
• 0:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Branch House with Mike Hudsel, of course, Greg Mengil, the producer and the guy who makes the show run.
• 0:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: Mike, I'd say you're officially into the off-season now, in terms of our coverage primarily focusing on football and basketball.
• 0:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: and you know we kind of reached that lot going to be a long off season as you know get ready for football around Labor Day weekend, but Indiana's been practicing in the spring now, getting their new guys in for football and we're going to talk to that, we're going to talk to some basketball portal stuff and kind of recap the basketball season.
• 0:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is wild times out here, man.
• 0:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: uh... portal open a midnight last night i think you and i are the only two people who haven't entered the portal sent it over i was thinking about transfer and over to the fever report but uh... still i didn't see what kind of n i.l.
• 1:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Greg throws at me for that so uh... i think please it's not the perdi report no no no no perdi doesn't take transfers matt painer recruits the holiest of holy
• 1:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Thank goodness for Matt Payner and today's whirlwind world that we live will always have Matt Pageer.
• 1:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yep, thank the Lord and it's funny that the portal officially opened at midnight on Tuesday and it literally opened like you can't make this up as one shining moment was playing after the National Championship.
• 2:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: By the way, a guy from the game went into the portal and midnight last night's.
• 2:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, but imagine you're sitting there celebrating the National Championship.
• 2:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then you look up at the clock and you're like, shit, like five minutes I gotta get in the portal dude.
• 2:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: I've been fun, but man.
• 2:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, the great thing about every player who declares for the portal, it's all part of God's plan.
• 2:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Indiana has predictably lost a big chunk of the remaining roster to the portal, the 16 years, of course, are all gone.
• 2:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: And Jason Drake was the first one out the door.
• 2:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: Thanks for all the memories.
• 2:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Everything you did for us and that I'm really disappointed about that.
• 2:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Seriously, you was a fan favorite and the fact that he's not going to be back next year.
• 2:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I wish you the best of luck, but just really disheartening.
• 3:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's good that he showed up, took the money, got to rehab, got really good seats for D1 games and now he's on his way out the door, but following him out, more recently just side miles declared he is not coming back, Josh Harris, another guy we didn't see all of last year, due to injury, he is going the other, the North Florida Osprey connection is no longer in the program with those two guys going.
• 3:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then today, Monday, we lost Alexa Ristage, the International Freshman Guard.
• 3:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Didn't play a lot this year, was injured at the start of the year, came in, was clearly not ready to contribute.
• 3:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was kind of a guy I was thinking maybe would be nice to hold on to as a developmental piece, but he goes in the portal today, so as of right now with six seniors, four guys declaring,
• 3:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's 10 spots open right now.
• 4:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Sicily is the said he is coming back.
• 4:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: We don't have an answer yet on the Euro big man who registered last year.
• 4:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: I would have to expect he might be on his way out as well.
• 4:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then the three incoming freshmen that have signed.
• 4:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it's going to be another busy portal season.
• 4:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: We'll see if the excuse last year seemed to be.
• 4:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: We got a late start.
• 4:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's not going to fly this year.
• 4:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's see what DeFrees can put together.
• 4:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: I agree and hopefully they'll be able to get their needs.
• 4:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think the biggest need is, got to have a big guy, have to have a true primary post present, having like an umar ballook.
• 4:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Read Bailey in Sam Alexis.
• 4:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: You can't get guys like that.
• 4:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I like Sam Alexis.
• 4:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: I thought he really played his role well, but you can't have a short big man in there anymore.
• 4:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's got to be...
• 5:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: 16, 6, 11, back to the basket kind of guy.
• 5:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's the guy I'd be looking for out of the portal.
• 5:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: That I think that's one of your biggest needs is a big guy.
• 5:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Of course, obviously, good smart guards, guards, winch championships, and if you can find good, really good guards in the portal and throw some cash out them, you can get them to come and hopefully make an impact.
• 5:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: But it is going to be a busy, busy portal season.
• 5:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: and to reason them are going to jump on that hopefully and be able to come out and be ready to go next year and not have his disappointing of a finish to the season this coming year as they did this past year.
• 5:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, you'll like two of the names that have immediately been connected.
• 5:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Of course, everybody,
• 5:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Nobody really knows anything.
• 5:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: The people that know anything probably aren't talking, but some of the names that are coming out early in the portal, I would fit exactly what you said they need.
• 5:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: The first name that everybody is linked to Indiana is Markets Burton, the guard out of Notre Dame.
• 6:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's a Michelle Walker kid.
• 6:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: He was hurt for quite a bit a last year, so it's cut up in the
• 6:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: But that seems to be the name most commonly linked to Indiana right now.
• 6:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Houston also allegedly on the radar for him.
• 6:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: In the big man that we keep hearing about right now is J. P. Estrella.
• 6:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's a big body played for Rick Barnes at Tennessee last year.
• 6:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Has an obvious connection to Rod Clark who was on Rick Barnes's staff who's now wanted to freeze top assistants.
• 6:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of people are tying Indiana in with him.
• 6:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Of course, Kansas is getting some mention with him.
• 6:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: He'll be a hot commodity.
• 6:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: I would think he's a skilled big guy who can shoot at the foul line.
• 6:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: So that's going to be, if they can start a class with those two guys, that would be a really good launch point.
• 6:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: You don't know what else is out there.
• 7:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's dream classes of Cory Bedunca, the Kokomo kid who played at Kansas, he's in the portal.
• 7:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: a lot of ties with him to right now Louisville, Texas, Texas Tech, not really much mentioned in Indiana.
• 7:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're throwing around a like a $45 million figure for him in the portal.
• 7:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Jalen Harrelson out of Notre Dame, Indiana was in his final two out of high school, seems to be some wind blowing towards Columbus for Ohio State for him could tuck he used to
• 7:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: So there's a lot of names, you're going to hear 35, 40 names, probably daily that has Indiana interest, has Indiana interest.
• 7:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just hope DeVries is more prepared that got a G in this year.
• 7:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they've got to put together a better roster because let's be real out of 12 spots on your roster last year.
• 8:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: You had two red shirts with the euros, you had two red shirts that were injured.
• 8:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: You had a absolute miss and read Bailey and pretty much a miss and just sign miles and a freshman intrinsically out of 12 spots.
• 8:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: You had seven players that really were struggling to contribute by the end of the year.
• 8:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: you can't have that.
• 8:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: With the resources that Indian has the money they have to throw around an NIO, they've got to get seven eight guys that they can count on.
• 8:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: And at the end of last year, they just didn't have that.
• 8:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think it showed.
• 8:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Indian look absolutely just completely gasped before it was all said and done at the end of the year.
• 8:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: And they just kind of look like they gave up in the big 10 tournament because it was over.
• 8:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: The finish line had they saw the finish line
• 8:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: and that can't happen again i had a percent agree you hit on some really great points there if you're looking at i'd love for mark is burdened to come here to indiana he's a guy that
• 9:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: really spent the better the better part of the last two years hurt for Notre Dame, but he won Mr. Basketball at Penn High School up in Misshawaka and then went right next door to Notre Dame to play college and Florie Bedunga from Cocomo, also won Mr. Basketball.
• 9:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: I actually know Florie pretty decently personally and I think he'd be really interested in coming to Indiana.
• 9:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: There was some interest there last year because if you remember he actually
• 9:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: last year at Kansas and then decided to take his name out today and this year he's just decided to go full out and get in the portal and go somewhere else.
• 9:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think honestly if he hadn't of gone back to Kansas last year, I think he would have been in the end of this past year.
• 9:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, he was really linked, of course, the Indiana just, you know, from coming over from Africa and then playing high school here and kind of becoming a hot commodity and kind of a legend is girlfriend actually at the time went to IU so there was there was a lot of Indiana.
• 10:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think there's a lot of IU and flooring but doing a link together and people saw that last year.
• 10:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how confident they feel about it this year and so hopefully Indiana can must interrupt the money to get a guy like him.
• 10:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: Harold Finn would be a nice addition as well.
• 10:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're kind of you could be getting the basically an Indiana all 13 back together because one guy you forgot to mention and I think this is a long shot.
• 10:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think this will happen.
• 10:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I know you said this in our text or at the other day, Mike, but hard to pass up a Northwestern degree, and he gets in the transfer portal.
• 10:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he's going to be a really nice pickup for maybe another big 10 team or an ACC team or whoever.
• 10:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's going to be a really nice pickup for them in the portal.
• 10:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just not so sure it'll be Indiana.
• 11:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was state getting the most buzz with him right now.
• 11:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oddly enough.
• 11:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: I could see that he seems like a solid big 12 caliber player.
• 11:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just don't seem coming to Bloomington, unfortunately.
• 11:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: In a dream world, there's an IU fan out there that is thinking, OK, next year we're going to start Jalen Harrelson, Marcus Burton, fory, but Dunga, Tracingleton, and Michael Cooper, the point guard from Wright State,
• 11:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: team a couple of years ago and then the bench is just going to be more Indiana kids that transfer in out of the portal.
• 11:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: So there's your your uncle who shares really weird AI memes on Facebook is probably got that line up in his head somewhere.
• 11:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it's realistic sad.
• 11:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's the thing Mike is you just literally described my actual uncle right there.
• 11:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm actually being so serious
• 11:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: You've all got an uncle who probably shared the fake story today that came out that Kurt Signetti and wife had a baby.
• 12:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Not true.
• 12:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Not true.
• 12:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Not true.
• 12:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Speaking of the signetti's grant, it's spring football season man.
• 12:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Anything fun coming out of that.
• 12:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's the same old same old Indiana, Indiana is going to play a spring game on April the turn.
• 12:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: I believe it will be televised this year on the big-to-network last year, it wasn't, which really pissed me off because I couldn't go.
• 12:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm planning on going to it here this year.
• 12:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it'll be, I think it'll be really fun.
• 12:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: It actually coincidentally enough is starting at the same time as the NFL draft, and there's a very high chance.
• 12:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: that well, I don't know with the Raiders signing Kurt Cousins, but
• 12:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: There was a good chance or there's still probably is a good chance that Fernando Bendoza will be selected number one overall in the NFL graph during the spring game.
• 13:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: He is getting taken number one overall grant.
• 13:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's there's no no no.
• 13:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: Kurt Cousins is not the reason that they're not going to take Fernando Bendoza.
• 13:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's let's just get that out there right now.
• 13:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: He will be taken Fernando announces today.
• 13:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's not going to Pittsburgh for the draft.
• 13:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's going to watch it with his family.
• 13:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of people say it makes sense with his mom and her condition and hopefully his aunt who was at the national title game is is there with them that night because there's going to be an ESPN camera man who finds her.
• 13:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: But going back to see, see, I don't, I don't even know what you're talking about.
• 13:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, just, you'll search it after the show and you'll be able to appreciate me going back to the spring, signetti absolutely bearing sunny dikes from TCU so far as the highlight of spring.
• 13:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Dikes comes out a couple weeks ago, kind of throws a little bit of shade at Josh Hoover says, you know, this year it'll be nice.
• 14:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: I even though Hoover was the only reason type TCU was in a lot of the games that they had last year.
• 14:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: And a signet he comes out last week and says, you know, it's kind of weird Josh got here.
• 14:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Met is too new best for him's a decent running game and a good defense and all of a sudden he looks like a completely different player so and then he gave that little trademark signetty wink to the camera to say hey sonny dikes go f off man you suck you made the national title game and had the most embarrassing loss in the history of the sport
• 14:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: a couple of years ago, we made the title game and won on Miami home field.
• 14:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: So let's just shut up, sunny dikes.
• 14:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: You said we won the national title and became the darlings of the sport.
• 14:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just still unreal.
• 14:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: But that is one of the things that I come on to bring up here is that you can tell with the program now and the the returners.
• 15:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: from the National Championship team this year that obviously, you know, you're still still enjoying it.
• 15:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think you're probably still a little high from it, but it's one of those things where we're looking at 2026 now and it's time to move on from that.
• 15:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: And while it was great, it's time to really get a move on and start preparing for the season.
• 15:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: And
• 15:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I think you can see that obviously in the staff with signetti and the coordinators and all the support staff and probably some players, some returners, Charlie Becker, Tyree Tucker, you're lying guys that are coming back.
• 15:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: I still think that there's a lot of, it was great, everything, and it's still pretty cool but we're moving on from it.
• 15:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's the past was in the past, and if you're gonna live in the past about that kind of stuff, then you're never gonna be happy in the present.
• 15:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, again, it is still cool you got to let those things kind of go and you can tell that they're really turning the page and just moving on from it just it's over now with the freeing game.
• 16:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it is really cool for recruiting.
• 16:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: The recruits you're going to have in the building that night is at eight o'clock when the freeing game starts and the NFL draft is at eight o'clock and
• 16:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, hey, how about we stop the games that we can watch the guy who helped us win the national championship and won the school's first ever highs in trophy and the poster boy, the golden child of college football.
• 16:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, how about we set up here and watch him go number one with all of our fans in our stadium in the NFL draft.
• 16:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if that's what they'll do.
• 16:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: I have a feeling that
• 16:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: They probably will and I think that looks really good for recruiting.
• 16:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it does a lot for for your program and and it shows the kind of culture you build that hey come here and that could be you up there one day.
• 16:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: The only thing I'm hoping for this spring game is they pay the proper homage to Fernando's moment, and also there's no sing along with John Mellon Camp and Walt.
• 17:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: What's up?
• 17:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Please, no.
• 17:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's forget that ever happened.
• 17:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that's the thing we need to move on the most from last year is the Mellon Camp karaoke at the National Titles Celebration.
• 17:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm still recovering from this brutal.
• 17:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: How do you think a lot of just syrup feels?
• 17:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.
• 17:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: He had no clue what song he was allegedly singing out there on stage.
• 17:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 17:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, and it's one of those things where the funniest part that came out of all that was like when thick went on and got on the big tent thing, he said, we had always people that come out here.
• 17:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: We got a blizzard coming in, he gets, and I am freaking freeze and dude.
• 17:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: That was like the memorable moment to take out of that.
• 17:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: So it was honestly kind of a let down.
• 17:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: I watched it live.
• 17:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, dang.
• 17:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: When you have something in Bloomington, Indiana, in January, whether may play a factor with, you know, especially something outdoors, right?
• 18:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: They, they were properly recognized that the Purdue basketball game.
• 18:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: And a Purdue fan told me that that night the only reason that Purdue lost was because the the National Championship trophy was in the building and there was no way the I U Bass 13 who did not play once that catch one ball run one run one play
• 18:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: have one tackle.
• 18:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: There was no way they were going to lose that game because the football team won the national championship.
• 18:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it's a damn shame that Matt Fayner answered Barry modems face time before the lead eight.
• 18:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm curious, Mike.
• 18:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know this is the eye year for but in the recent light of
• 18:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: the national championship game and everything.
• 18:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: What were your thoughts on the former IU manager, Dusty Mae, who I think a lot of people loved the storyline.
• 19:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, he was a manager for Bob Knight.
• 19:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: He was a manager for Bob Knight.
• 19:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: The Indiana kid who went to IU and everything.
• 19:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: People love that gimmick.
• 19:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I think they kind of love that storyline a little bit.
• 19:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: fact of the matter is I'm not sure how much really dusty may actually liked Bob Knight just from earening talk about him.
• 19:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I'm curious your thoughts on the kid from from souls Barry Indiana were coach night used to do a lot of growl's hunting the guy from green county dusty may your thoughts on him when in the national championship in Michigan.
• 19:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-
• 19:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: I can't sit here and pretend that I'm happy about Michigan winning a national championship and basketball.
• 19:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: I am glad to see that the big tune completed the the tri-factor Greg.
• 19:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you heard or not, the Indiana won the football national championship in January.
• 19:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: But then, yeah, UCLA, of course, winning the...
• 19:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: coming the first team since 1999 in the conference to win the women's national title on Sunday and then Michigan breaking that really just bizarre stretch of 26 years without a basketball title in the conference.
• 20:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: So there's no doubt who's holding all the metal right now and that's that's the conference of as Bill Walton would say the conference of champions right now is the
• 20:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: he does have ties to the program.
• 20:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: But man, I didn't realize how travel dusty actually was.
• 20:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: That guy's coasted a little bit everywhere.
• 20:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, in his career, it seemed like he just kind of landed at Florida Atlantic and I hadn't really heard much about him, but he was coach with Mike White at Louisiana Tech.
• 20:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: He worked for John Calapare for a while at Memphis.
• 20:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Cal was kind of credited with giving him his start.
• 20:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: They could get some work out of Fresno or some school out in California.
• 20:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: So he's well-traveled.
• 20:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's not a guy that was born on third base in the coaching industry.
• 21:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's gone from a student manager up to,
• 21:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: The most coveted college coach in the country made some interesting comments when they was tied to the UNC job and said I'm not looking at any other college jobs right now.
• 21:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think this guy's got a Brad Stevens arc at some point.
• 21:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think his goal is to get to the league and more power to him would not mind seeing him leave Michigan whatsoever.
• 21:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: So if it's not going to be for Indiana, let's get him someplace.
• 21:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe Greg, that's Rick Carlisle's replacement in
• 21:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: with the Pacers.
• 21:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: Cool.
• 21:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Which is the last time a college basketball coach was successful in the NBA.
• 21:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right, Steven's did okay.
• 21:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: If you're really, really good, and you can relate, I mean, John B.
• 21:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: Line, that was a, that was a train wreck waiting to happen.
• 21:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: That was a seven year old, that was a 70 something year old man going to coach in the NBA.
• 21:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: That was never going to,
• 21:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: to work out.
• 22:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: But Brad Stevens and Dusty May, I see a lot of similarities there, not just you know, I can see it happen.
• 22:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: I can see him being successful.
• 22:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: He just seems like one of those guys that's going to win regardless of where he goes.
• 22:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Stevens did the Celtics thing for a while now he's in the front office the top top franchise in the east I don't really think that's up for debate and they won the title what two years ago three years ago Even in with injuries, they're still going to be one of the teams to contend with this year So if that's the arc does he goes on I could not be upset if he did it with the pacers For me with dusty
• 22:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: and seeing Michigan win the national championship.
• 22:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's certainly tools like in the big 10 that I hate, like obviously Purdue.
• 22:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: I hate Ohio State, not a big Illinois fan.
• 22:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: Michigan's one of those that I actually don't hate, do the fact that way back in the day, back in the early 80s, my grandpa, course, and he was a younger man, the one that doesn't like that we use language on this podcast, by the way.
• 23:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: He had a major heart surgery back in the day, back in the early 80s, and the only place that could do it was up at the University of Michigan.
• 23:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: So obviously, we're not Michigan fans, but we like Michigan just because he saved his life.
• 23:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it's one of those things again, or I don't hate, I didn't hate seeing them win it.
• 23:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: Their fans are really cool at the game, by the way.
• 23:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: to tie was there.
• 23:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it was 80, 20 Michigan fans.
• 23:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: And there were, there may be like 1,300 U-Cod fans in the entire bill.
• 23:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: It turned into a huge goal.
• 23:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: Michigan is a short drive down.
• 23:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it's a, it's a, it's a journey to get there for U-Cod.
• 23:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: So that's yeah, what you thought you would see.
• 23:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the Illinois fans were there on Saturday.
• 23:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it just kind of became another big tent take over.
• 23:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: being their fans celebrate all this and I I told a lot of my actually work uh... by the way I wore the i u football national championship shirt because i don't know if you're never like they won the national championship i wore under my sweatshirt and and i was going around the people a enjoy it take it in you'll never want to see the name i've been through it show them the shirt you know we just went through it not long ago special and um...
• 24:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: Seeing in one shining moment live on the big screen after the game, oh my god, I'm just a special special thing and see as the play by play guy and studying the craft I love I and Eagle absolutely my favorite broadcast of all time and of course I'm at the game so I'm not watching on TV side up no I had no idea what his final call was will they always put the final call on one shining moment.
• 24:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I was literally like cheering after it was over because I thought he nailed it.
• 24:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Listen to the dust he get on there afterwards and talking about how his mom used to driving to the coaches' clinics and he used to just go to all this stuff, just to try and make connections and meet all these college coaches and build relationships and you're happy for those kind of guys that win championships because they paid their dues and coaching like they
• 25:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, majors who make a no money and work their way up to get to where they are and then you see I'm succeed you're happy for those kind of people because They've given everything they have to the game and the game rewards them maybe a guy you guys are familiar without I'm sure Greg is getting Tom Bradley who was just resigned, but he was the coach at or leans.
• 25:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: down there in southern Indiana for so long.
• 25:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's kind of the same example where he coached or leans for so many years and never could win a state title and then finally did.
• 25:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's one of those things where you pay your dues and the the game will reward you and that's kind of what happened.
• 26:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think with Dusty May.
• 26:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know there's a lot of talk about Indiana fans obviously have gone through it with the Dusty May saga.
• 26:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: All of them feel like it was Mike Woodson's fault that he's not coaching in Bloomington, and Indiana should have the Signetti May combo right now.
• 26:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: And maybe that's true, who knows, you know, there's some people that say he'd never really wanted to go back.
• 26:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's loyal to Bob Knight, Mike Davis, and didn't like what happened there.
• 26:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: So there's two sides to the story that are out there, but you feel right now, if you're Ohio State.
• 26:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because they had an opening, and there are two candidates, we're Dusty May.
• 26:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: in John Deibler or Jake Deibler, whichever Deibler brother wasn't good at shooting three pointers.
• 26:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Jake, Jake, okay.
• 26:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: So those are your two guys, you choose Jake.
• 26:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: Dusty Megos to Michigan.
• 27:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Look at the trajectory of those two programs.
• 27:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: How do you feel if you're Louisville?
• 27:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: Louisville had the chairs in the press conference set up to announce Dusty May's hiring
• 27:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: and then dusty starts telling people that he's getting death threats and vitrials from the Louisville fan base and he started to have second thoughts and went to Michigan instead and then allegedly totally Mike Mike he'd literally change his mind at the 11th hour
• 27:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I mean, I was through it.
• 27:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was I was sitting here.
• 27:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was listening to all these Louisville fans.
• 27:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: We got your guy man.
• 27:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to we're going to win with your guy.
• 27:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is going to suck for you.
• 27:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then he backs out and then not only that.
• 27:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: He tells Josh shirts.
• 27:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, man, I don't think you should even think about taking this job.
• 27:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: And they end up with a midget like Pat Kelsey looks like a little leprechaun dork running around with his stupid freaking glasses, and they all hate him already.
• 28:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I love that story.
• 28:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: I love that he backed out.
• 28:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: I love that there was chairs set up.
• 28:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: People were starting to make their way to the young center.
• 28:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Dusty Mae was the guy and now he won the title.
• 28:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: You talk about people going through it.
• 28:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: my Louisville friends this week are going through it man because they know he was literally there guy it was done out and of course for the inside joke and tournament about how and I don't know if you were on Twitter enough but people were talking about like oh how like dusty may and Josh shirts are just such a good friend they're just such a good buddy so of course may is going to tell shirts hey you don't touch that little old job go to St. Louis instead
• 28:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: You brought up a good point about May and Brad Stevens.
• 28:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think there's a lot of Brad Stevens and Dusty May.
• 29:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, Dusty's a little older than what Brad Stevens was when Butler went to back to back national championship games.
• 29:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think that, obviously, I think Dusty's 49, Brad Stevens, I think was early 40s, mid 40s, they're at Butler.
• 29:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like Brad Stevens, literally before he coach, was a waiter at Applebee's, like the guy went to DePaul University and then somehow ended up as an assistant coach back at his alma mater at Scienceville and then somehow ended up at Butler with Fat Mata the first time around and then just kind of stuck it out and was there with Barry Collier and just worked his way up and
• 29:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: got Butler to where they needed to go and again he was the kid from Indiana that you could rally behind what a great play you wouldn't like to Steve Alfred but yeah he's the guy from Indiana you could rally behind because played high school and then it becomes a real successful coach people love that kind of stuff so
• 30:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: There are a lot of similarities, I think, with Dusty May and Brad Stevens in a way, and I think now the new thing where the always the inside joke is when a job comes open and Kyle's basketball is you got to make Brad Stevens say no, and I think you'll start to see your soon is you got to make Dusty May say no, or, or my favorite tweet was last night after the game, I saw one that said, January, February is the May May.
• 30:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, I guess that's how we're rocking now.
• 30:52
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• 30:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I love Susie.