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- 0:00Speaker 1: Do you know another parent or a soon to be
- 0:03Speaker 1: parent and expecting mom or dad. Please don't give them
- 0:07Speaker 1: another onesie or another toy that you know is going
- 0:11Speaker 1: to end up in the garage or at the goodwill.
- 0:15Speaker 1: Give them something that matters, and what matters the most
- 0:18Speaker 1: protecting your child. What do you love the most in
- 0:20Speaker 1: the world Your children? I do, and I will do
- 0:23Speaker 1: anything to protect my twins. Go to crime stops here
- 0:31Speaker 1: dot com. It is a five part series with action
- 0:36Speaker 1: information that you can use to change your life and
- 0:40Speaker 1: protect your child's life. Payment starting at six. Give that
- 0:45Speaker 1: as a gift, not another one that you're a plastic toy.
- 0:49Speaker 1: Give them something that matters. Find out how to protect
- 0:53Speaker 1: your child out and about at the mall, at the store,
- 0:56Speaker 1: at the grocery store, in the parking lot, at home,
- 0:59Speaker 1: by doubt about protection regarding babysitters, in daycare, even online
- 1:05Speaker 1: cyber security. Oh yes, my children are online, and you
- 1:09Speaker 1: better bet I'm doing everything within my power to protect them.
- 1:14Speaker 1: Payments starting six. I would much rather have that than
- 1:19Speaker 1: yet another plastic baby doll, or God forbid, a toy gun.
- 1:25Speaker 1: Just what I don't want. Joined the Justice Nation. Crime
- 1:29Speaker 1: stops here dot com Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Based
- 1:41Speaker 1: on our investigation thus far, we believe Jamie was in
- 1:43Speaker 1: the home at the time of the homicides. We believe
- 1:46Speaker 1: she is still endangered. This remains an active investigation. We're
- 1:50Speaker 1: following up on every tip We've received over tips in
- 1:53Speaker 1: our community and from across the nation. We have closed
- 1:57Speaker 1: of those bombshell news in the search for a missing
- 2:01Speaker 1: little girl, Jamie Class. In the last hours, the Wisconsin
- 2:06Speaker 1: Sheriff announces two vehicles of interest are being sought in
- 2:11Speaker 1: connection with the missing Wisconsin girl, Jamie Class. Jamie has
- 2:16Speaker 1: just turned thirteen. I Meancy Grace, this is Crime Stories.
- 2:21Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us. Okay. Done. Now the
- 2:25Speaker 1: examination of video camera footage, both from businesses and homes,
- 2:29Speaker 1: we have determined two vehicles that were in the in
- 2:32Speaker 1: the Class home near the Class home at the time
- 2:34Speaker 1: of the incident. You'll see three photos up here. The
- 2:38Speaker 1: first vehicle is likely a two thousand eight to two
- 2:40Speaker 1: thousand fourteen Dodge Challenger redd or orange and color. The
- 2:45Speaker 1: second vehicle is likely either a two thousand and six
- 2:49Speaker 1: to two thousand and ten Ford Edge Black or a
- 2:51Speaker 1: two thousand and four to two thousand and ten Aca
- 2:55Speaker 1: m d X black in color. Again, I want to
- 2:58Speaker 1: stress these are vehicles of interest only. If anyone sees
- 3:02Speaker 1: or has seen these two vehicles in and around Baron
- 3:05Speaker 1: Coney over the past two weeks, they were asked to
- 3:08Speaker 1: call our tip line with the time it was observed,
- 3:11Speaker 1: location and license plate number if available. Once again, we
- 3:15Speaker 1: were only gonna take tips based on the above information,
- 3:18Speaker 1: nor other makes and models of vehicles are being followed
- 3:21Speaker 1: up on. Also for the community, this is a good
- 3:24Speaker 1: time now that we have some vehicles of interest to
- 3:27Speaker 1: look for changes in behavior or routine of people. We
- 3:31Speaker 1: have the two cars described, either they don't drive them anymore,
- 3:34Speaker 1: they've changed their routine and what they drive, or where
- 3:37Speaker 1: they drive. Sightings of Jamie you should call nine on one.
- 3:42Speaker 1: Sightings of this vehicle you should call our tip line.
- 3:45Speaker 1: We need your help. Jamie's family needs your help. Her
- 3:50Speaker 1: parents can no longer help her. When police arrived at
- 3:53Speaker 1: their home just minutes after apparently a pocket dial nine
- 3:57Speaker 1: one one, both parents day head, the front door kicked in,
- 4:02Speaker 1: the parents shot dead, neighbors here two gun shots, and
- 4:08Speaker 1: within the minutes after the nivel one call is made,
- 4:11Speaker 1: the little girl is gone straight out to Alan Duke,
- 4:17Speaker 1: joining me, Alan, this is major. I'm assuming they're getting
- 4:22Speaker 1: this from neighboring surveilla's video. It's from surveillance video, not
- 4:27Speaker 1: just from neighbors, but also some from businesses in the area.
- 4:31Speaker 1: These vehicles were seen in the area on video and
- 4:35Speaker 1: they believe they could very well be connected to calling
- 4:37Speaker 1: them vehicles of interest. There's a lot happening in this
- 4:40Speaker 1: case today. This two thousand volunteer search is something that
- 4:44Speaker 1: I'm interested in. You don't just call for two thousand
- 4:47Speaker 1: volunteers to walk over one area unless you've got a
- 4:50Speaker 1: reason to. When the sheriff says investigators think there is
- 4:53Speaker 1: a reason, there is a reason. According to sources inside
- 4:56Speaker 1: the investigation, joining me, New York psychologist Karen Stark Vince
- 5:00Speaker 1: and Hill cop turned private eye, author of playbook to
- 5:04Speaker 1: a Murder also with me, renowned criminal defense attorney Jason
- 5:09Speaker 1: Oceans who works in the Tri State area. To you,
- 5:12Speaker 1: Vincent Hill, private investigator, what does this mean? Interpret the
- 5:16Speaker 1: tea leaves for me, Well, Nancy, looking at these two
- 5:19Speaker 1: vehicles that are vehicles of interest, what this tells me?
- 5:21Speaker 1: This is a very small town three square miles, So
- 5:24Speaker 1: it tells me that these vehicles probably don't belong there.
- 5:28Speaker 1: You're talking about a dog Challenger, which is a very
- 5:30Speaker 1: flashy vehicle and possibly an accurate Those would stand out
- 5:34Speaker 1: to those people in that small community. So it tells
- 5:37Speaker 1: me and maybe someone that came in went into that home,
- 5:40Speaker 1: they knew exactly what or should I say, who they
- 5:43Speaker 1: were looking for to uh go into that home. So
- 5:46Speaker 1: I think these vehicles are key in this case. Right now, Nancy,
- 5:49Speaker 1: at this hour, we know the sheriff has been using
- 5:51Speaker 1: drones and infrared to search the area, including nearby densely
- 5:57Speaker 1: wooded forest. Jamie class missing from her home, and this
- 6:02Speaker 1: morning we are finding out that the investigation is honing
- 6:06Speaker 1: in on a local hollow as police beg for two
- 6:10Speaker 1: thousand volunteers to help with search efforts. And this is
- 6:14Speaker 1: just before the teens classmates gathering for a vigil in
- 6:19Speaker 1: the Barron County Sheriff's office asking for volunteers to gather
- 6:22Speaker 1: in order to search the Hungry hollow grounds. How have
- 6:27Speaker 1: they come up with that specific spot a local hollow.
- 6:31Speaker 1: It's not clear if the search is related to a
- 6:33Speaker 1: tip regarding the location of Jamie or other evidence that
- 6:37Speaker 1: may lead to Jamie. What could that be straight out
- 6:42Speaker 1: to Jason Ocean's Jason. I just every time I think
- 6:46Speaker 1: of Jamie, I see her face and then I see
- 6:49Speaker 1: Lucy's face, my daughter Nancy. That's that's normal for as
- 6:54Speaker 1: I think nationally, whenever we hear that the child is
- 6:56Speaker 1: missing in Europe us your heart and makes you think
- 7:01Speaker 1: of your own. So you're not alone in associating that. Now,
- 7:05Speaker 1: I think the fact that as all mentioned the town
- 7:08Speaker 1: as mobilized as small town, uh, is you know, testament
- 7:12Speaker 1: to testament to them and their commitment to the family
- 7:18Speaker 1: for sure. Now, when we refer to a hollow, a
- 7:22Speaker 1: hollow is for instance, a dip in the ground. It
- 7:27Speaker 1: is kind of like, um, how would you describe it,
- 7:30Speaker 1: Alan Duke, I would say, coming across the hill and
- 7:33Speaker 1: then you go down the hill and that whole area. Yeah,
- 7:38Speaker 1: it would be referred to as a hollow. In this
- 7:42Speaker 1: particular hollow is what the Sheriff's office is asking for
- 7:47Speaker 1: volunteers to come. It's Hungry Hollow grounds. The Baron County
- 7:52Speaker 1: Sheriff asking for volunteers to gather today to search the
- 7:57Speaker 1: Hungry Hollow grounds there, Wisconsin. While at the same time
- 8:01Speaker 1: the FBI expanding it searched nationwide after placing Jamie at
- 8:06Speaker 1: the top of the missing person's list. You know, to Karen,
- 8:10Speaker 1: start yourk psychologists joining me. Many people suggested that this
- 8:16Speaker 1: little girl was part of the murder of her parents
- 8:21Speaker 1: and her own disappearance. I do not believe that the
- 8:25Speaker 1: cops have clearly stated that she is in danger. I
- 8:29Speaker 1: don't believe that for one minute someone targeted this girl.
- 8:34Speaker 1: Nothing was stolen, no one was sex attacked. There was
- 8:37Speaker 1: not a burglary in the middle of the night or
- 8:40Speaker 1: when nobody was home. They specifically came after midnight when
- 8:44Speaker 1: the lights were all cut off, to get in there
- 8:47Speaker 1: and get the girl. If they wanted to steal, they
- 8:49Speaker 1: could have done it while everybody was gone during the day.
- 8:51Speaker 1: Karen start, Why do people always think the worst? Well,
- 8:55Speaker 1: because that's human nature and Nancy and UM, I guess
- 8:59Speaker 1: that everybody. Um it's much more exciting sometimes to think
- 9:04Speaker 1: that some kind of plot has evolved then and include
- 9:10Speaker 1: this girl. Then to see the reality of the fact
- 9:13Speaker 1: that there was no nothing that was stolen. There was
- 9:17Speaker 1: She's thirteen years old. Um, this this little girl is missing,
- 9:24Speaker 1: and um, let's hope really meant that she's alive, because
- 9:28Speaker 1: it's a long time already and what she has to
- 9:31Speaker 1: endure when she's finally found. God Willie, she's found. This
- 9:35Speaker 1: is the second mass search for Jamie class the only
- 9:37Speaker 1: one hundred gathered last week. But now the sheriffs are
- 9:41Speaker 1: honing in on a particular area. This is they announced
- 9:45Speaker 1: cars of interest a Dodge Challenger red or orange, a
- 9:52Speaker 1: forward edge black in color or an accurate black in color.
- 9:59Speaker 1: The tip line so significant seven five, three, seven, three
- 10:03Speaker 1: zero six or eight five seven four four three eight
- 10:08Speaker 1: seven nine. Go to crime online dot com for updates
- 10:12Speaker 1: throughout the day. In the search for Jamie, Please help
- 10:17Speaker 1: us bring her home and if you cannot help us physically,
- 10:21Speaker 1: please pray for Jamie. Do you know another parent or
- 10:25Speaker 1: a soon to be parent and expecting mom or dad,
- 10:29Speaker 1: Please don't give them another onesie or another toy that
- 10:34Speaker 1: you know is going to end up in the garage
- 10:37Speaker 1: or at the goodwill. Give them something that matters and
- 10:40Speaker 1: what matters the most protecting your child. What do you
- 10:43Speaker 1: love the most in the world? Your children? I do,
- 10:46Speaker 1: and I will do anything to protect my twins. Go
- 10:51Speaker 1: to crime stops here dot com. It is a five
- 10:57Speaker 1: part series with action in for Nation that you can
- 11:01Speaker 1: use to change your life and protect your child's life.
- 11:06Speaker 1: Payments starting at six nine. Give that as a gift,
- 11:09Speaker 1: not another one that you're a plastic toy. Give them
- 11:14Speaker 1: something that matters. Find Out how to protect your child
- 11:18Speaker 1: out and about at the mall, at the store, at
- 11:20Speaker 1: the grocery store, in the parking lot, at home. Find
- 11:23Speaker 1: out about protection regarding babysitters, in daycare, even online cyber security.
- 11:30Speaker 1: Oh yes, my children are online, and you better bet
- 11:33Speaker 1: I'm doing everything within my power to protect them. Payment
- 11:38Speaker 1: starting six I would much rather have that than yet
- 11:43Speaker 1: another plastic baby doll, or god forbid, a toy gun.
- 11:49Speaker 1: Just what I don't want. Joined the Justice Nation, Crime
- 11:53Speaker 1: stops here dot com. Where are you at the happened?
- 12:04Speaker 1: I was down. I think he did it. I don't
- 12:17Speaker 1: know what to think. You are hearing the sound of
- 12:21Speaker 1: Sharika Adams the night that she was shot. She died
- 12:27Speaker 1: eight months pregnant with NFL star the number one draft pick,
- 12:35Speaker 1: Ray Caruth, who went on to play who was playing
- 12:38Speaker 1: for the Carolina Panthers. That night, he had invited his girlfriend,
- 12:46Speaker 1: the mother of his baby, out to a movie. They
- 12:49Speaker 1: went to a movie, but they were in separate cars.
- 12:52Speaker 1: At his request, they were going to meet there. He
- 12:55Speaker 1: was in front of her as they left a late
- 12:57Speaker 1: night movie and as they drove away, he suddenly hit
- 13:02Speaker 1: the brakes. She hit the brakes behind him, and as
- 13:05Speaker 1: she did, a car pulled up beside her. Someone came
- 13:10Speaker 1: out and shot her. She died. Her baby was left
- 13:18Speaker 1: with cerebral palsy. That baby is now nineteen year old Chancellor.
- 13:26Speaker 1: He has lived with Shrika's mother, Sandra all this time,
- 13:31Speaker 1: and in the last hours, Ray Carruth walks from jail,
- 13:38Speaker 1: walks from jail free free. Take a listen to Chancellor's grandma,
- 13:46Speaker 1: who has been raising him all this time, as she reacts,
- 13:49Speaker 1: I don't even want to see Ray Caruth go to hell.
- 13:52Speaker 1: I want him to come to repentance because Ray is
- 13:56Speaker 1: never going to have peace in his life until he
- 14:01Speaker 1: tells the truth. In the past, I didn't think it
- 14:05Speaker 1: mattered that he just do his time, get out, be free,
- 14:08Speaker 1: going along his way. But I think as the time
- 14:11Speaker 1: gets closer for him to get out, I am feeling
- 14:15Speaker 1: very differently. Part of me wants to be there the
- 14:22Speaker 1: day he walks out so he can acknowledge his son.
- 14:27Speaker 1: And then there's part of me that just wants to
- 14:32Speaker 1: be chilling out on a beach somewhere on October two
- 14:37Speaker 1: and not even thinking about that it's October twenty. You
- 14:42Speaker 1: are hearing the woman that has raised baby Chance for
- 14:45Speaker 1: all these years. Well as it all boiled down. You
- 14:48Speaker 1: know how drowning rats are. They'll grab onto anything. Take
- 14:52Speaker 1: a listen to the known to trigger me and testifying
- 14:56Speaker 1: under oath and the death, the murder of an eight
- 14:59Speaker 1: month pregnant mob Sharika Adams, the detention officer grimly two
- 15:07Speaker 1: weeks after you caused that, I hope the bitch dies.
- 15:14Speaker 1: You see that. That's the bitch I was talking about.
- 15:18Speaker 1: Oh I see break a ruf. Oh that's the bitch
- 15:23Speaker 1: I was referring to. Who got me into this? Okay,
- 15:27Speaker 1: this is the bitch I was referring to. He didn't
- 15:30Speaker 1: stand up. I stood up for mine. I said, I
- 15:33Speaker 1: did it. I did it because he made me do it. Okay,
- 15:37Speaker 1: he made the other two. Also, what about that, Jason Oceans,
- 15:41Speaker 1: you're the veteran criminal defense attorney. How do you get
- 15:44Speaker 1: around testimony like that? And to this day the number
- 15:48Speaker 1: one draft pick making forty thousand dollars a game. Still
- 15:53Speaker 1: says he was not involved. He says he's sorry for
- 15:57Speaker 1: his part, but he's never really comes very very huge,
- 16:01Speaker 1: come clean. Uh oh oh oh, Jason Oceans. So you've
- 16:08Speaker 1: got children, so you go along with they did it.
- 16:12Speaker 1: They're doing it, dad, Can I do it? Have you
- 16:15Speaker 1: ever said if they jumped off a cliff, would you
- 16:17Speaker 1: jump off a cliff too? I bet you have. But
- 16:19Speaker 1: you're telling me right now they all do and nobody
- 16:23Speaker 1: comes clean. That's your defense, Jason Oceans. I expected more.
- 16:28Speaker 1: That made defense. He's done. He's done his time, subject
- 16:33Speaker 1: to the court eat years. We look on profile of
- 16:38Speaker 1: a lot of cases pop killers who get loose eventually. Uh,
- 16:42Speaker 1: we just don't throw you in a goolag forever. As
- 16:45Speaker 1: much as the publicity of a heinous crime like this
- 16:50Speaker 1: grabs at us, there's there's regular crime and people being
- 16:53Speaker 1: released all the time. You understand the system. It's what
- 16:56Speaker 1: you telling me. I'll understand the system like that somehow
- 17:00Speaker 1: makes it okay. You're prosecutor man. No, I think you
- 17:05Speaker 1: should have gotten the death penalty for killing her and
- 17:09Speaker 1: leaving the baby forever. It was cerebral paul sy. You
- 17:12Speaker 1: know what listen to vam Brett Watkins at trial. That's
- 17:14Speaker 1: your client the bit at the time that you made
- 17:20Speaker 1: that statement, Sharika Adams was fighting for her line, right.
- 17:29Speaker 1: Did the captain tell you what happened that day? My
- 17:33Speaker 1: question is Sharika Adams was fighting for her life, wasn't she?
- 17:38Speaker 1: She was? But this this wasn't about Sharika Adams. It
- 17:42Speaker 1: was about the president who got me involved in all
- 17:45Speaker 1: this for six months. Your client did this. This wasn't
- 17:52Speaker 1: a one day affair. It was for six months. He
- 17:55Speaker 1: dragged me into something that I didn't want to be
- 17:57Speaker 1: involved with. Cling Have you ever referred to women as
- 18:12Speaker 1: it's not It's not something I would do all the time.
- 18:16Speaker 1: Oh yeah, right. He's such a choir boy. He's never
- 18:18Speaker 1: called a woman a bit, right, Karen Stark. He is
- 18:22Speaker 1: lying through his teeth. That was the proven trigger man
- 18:28Speaker 1: who was arranged by Ray Caruth, the NFL star, and
- 18:32Speaker 1: he wanted Shrinka Adams dead. I remember it like it
- 18:36Speaker 1: was yesterday. I sat there and watched that testimony come
- 18:39Speaker 1: from the stand. Because he referred to Sharika Adams his
- 18:43Speaker 1: girlfriend as they quote, who chie mama that was after
- 18:46Speaker 1: him for money. So what's his answer, killer, kill her
- 18:51Speaker 1: and the baby. But what he didn't count on is
- 18:53Speaker 1: Sharika Adams making that nine one one call and fingering
- 18:58Speaker 1: him Karen Stark. And now the trigger has up there
- 19:00Speaker 1: saying while Sharika Adams is lying in the hospital with
- 19:04Speaker 1: her baby inside of her, fighting struggling to live, to
- 19:09Speaker 1: save the baby, he says, I hope the bitch dies.
- 19:12Speaker 1: Now he's trying to twist that around and make me
- 19:15Speaker 1: think he was talking about Ray Caruth. Well, the whole
- 19:18Speaker 1: story is like that, Nancy. It's so awful that this
- 19:23Speaker 1: woman is pregnant. What's incredible is that the baby even lived,
- 19:28Speaker 1: although the baby has cerebral pauses as a result of
- 19:31Speaker 1: what happened. But when you think about this, you think
- 19:36Speaker 1: about this guy who's it's like a superstar. He's getting
- 19:39Speaker 1: to be really famous, and this is all of a
- 19:41Speaker 1: sudden and albatross on his neck to have this girlfriend,
- 19:46Speaker 1: and instead of saying, let me break up with her
- 19:48Speaker 1: and do the right thing, he decides it's a good
- 19:51Speaker 1: idea to have her killed. Until this day he doesn't
- 19:54Speaker 1: admit it yet. He asked to be forgiven and thought
- 20:00Speaker 1: somehow at one point that he should raise, blab blah blah.
- 20:05Speaker 1: You know to Vincent Hill, former cop turn p I
- 20:08Speaker 1: author of playbook to Murder. You know the title of
- 20:11Speaker 1: your book right there tells me you're all about sports
- 20:14Speaker 1: and you're all about murder. Vincent Hill, he was already
- 20:18Speaker 1: supporting one child um out of wedlock, not judging, don't care.
- 20:25Speaker 1: What I care about is motive for murder. So he
- 20:29Speaker 1: did not want to support another baby. Well, what happens
- 20:33Speaker 1: to these guys? They finally make it big and then
- 20:37Speaker 1: they want lose their mind when they get all that money. Well,
- 20:40Speaker 1: you can give a man as much money as you want,
- 20:42Speaker 1: but you can't take the hood out of them if
- 20:45Speaker 1: you will. I mean, let's be clear. He took the
- 20:48Speaker 1: cowards way out, not only for not wanting to pay
- 20:50Speaker 1: for this chance. Do you mean but you can't take
- 20:52Speaker 1: the hood out? Are you suggesting it because he's African America?
- 20:57Speaker 1: Because let me tell you something. We just covered a
- 20:59Speaker 1: rich millionaires that murdered his wife. What he's full of
- 21:03Speaker 1: hood to what I'm saying, Nancy, I mean something or
- 21:07Speaker 1: just uh predisposed to be evil? And this guy he
- 21:11Speaker 1: took the coward's way out, not only and not wanting
- 21:14Speaker 1: to pay for this child. But he went and hired
- 21:17Speaker 1: this hit man to do it. He wasn't even brave
- 21:20Speaker 1: enough to do it himself. He got this guy who says, oh,
- 21:23Speaker 1: well he made me do it. Well, that's just like saying, well,
- 21:27Speaker 1: it's the dude's pants. I didn't really want to do it,
- 21:30Speaker 1: but he made me do it. He was a coward,
- 21:33Speaker 1: all right, right right, this is Van Brett Watkins you're
- 21:36Speaker 1: talking about. Listen, I hope the bitch that's a bit
- 21:43Speaker 1: of a talking about. Oh I see, where are you at,
- 21:56Speaker 1: a brit I think he did it. I don't know
- 22:08Speaker 1: what you are hearing the sound of Sharika Adams. She
- 22:12Speaker 1: had gone to a late night movie with her boyfriend,
- 22:14Speaker 1: the father of her baby. Eight months pregnant. She was
- 22:17Speaker 1: when the dad, Ray Caruth, high flying football star, slammed
- 22:21Speaker 1: on the brakes. She stopped behind him, and at that
- 22:23Speaker 1: exact moment, another car pulled up an opened fire, shooting her.
- 22:28Speaker 1: She lingered in the hospital for a period of days,
- 22:31Speaker 1: and it was then she continued to say, Ray Carruth,
- 22:35Speaker 1: the father of her child, was involved. I mean, see, Grace,
- 22:40Speaker 1: this is crime stories. Thank you for being with us
- 22:42Speaker 1: as we have reported on crime online dot com. Ray
- 22:45Speaker 1: Carruth has just walked free. He walked out of that
- 22:49Speaker 1: correctional institute into a waiting white suv. He wasn't so
- 22:54Speaker 1: worried about Sharika adams murder and his child living a
- 22:58Speaker 1: life with cerebral paulse that he didn't have time to
- 23:02Speaker 1: smile and nod at all of the cameras. But the
- 23:06Speaker 1: woman left to raise the little boy was Shaika adams mother.
- 23:11Speaker 1: Sandra listens, pretty, mommy, A Ray would never come back
- 23:24Speaker 1: here and do anything, but that doesn't mean he wouldn't
- 23:27Speaker 1: send someone. So I am a little anxious and I'm
- 23:31Speaker 1: not going to live in fear, but I'm taking a
- 23:34Speaker 1: lot of precautions because he usually gets somebody else to
- 23:38Speaker 1: do his dirty work. And we're going to protect arly.
- 23:40Speaker 1: You are hearing Sandra Adams and she has taken the
- 23:43Speaker 1: little boy Chancellor to his mom's grave. There was a
- 23:49Speaker 1: big flurry of activity when Ray Caruth said that he
- 23:52Speaker 1: wanted to take custody of the little boy Chancellor. Jason
- 23:57Speaker 1: Oceans has he lost his mind? He tried to the
- 24:00Speaker 1: little boy, he can't have custody. I certainly don't think
- 24:04Speaker 1: that anyone who's going to afford him custody. That could
- 24:06Speaker 1: have been a quick sound by relative to catching on
- 24:09Speaker 1: his way out. You know, eighteen years is a long
- 24:13Speaker 1: time to be in prison and reflect certainly uh Shrieker's
- 24:17Speaker 1: mom uh comments on repentance, and you know, I'll certainly
- 24:21Speaker 1: echo that focused relative to that, I don't think he'd
- 24:24Speaker 1: be a good caring father based on the facts and circumstances.
- 24:28Speaker 1: So I think it's really a red herring and more
- 24:31Speaker 1: food for fadder in terms of our discussion. Well, wait
- 24:34Speaker 1: a minute, I don't know about it being a red hearing.
- 24:36Speaker 1: Jason Oceans. You may be a veteran defense lawyer in
- 24:39Speaker 1: New York City in New Jersey, but let me tell
- 24:42Speaker 1: you something. He wrote a jail house letter to Sandra Adams,
- 24:47Speaker 1: Chancellor's grandmother, saying, quote, you know you're not gonna live
- 24:51Speaker 1: forever because she's the grandma, and I want custy. I
- 24:55Speaker 1: want to take Chancellor, you know what, over my cold
- 24:58Speaker 1: dead body, Jason Ocean. And so it's just not some
- 25:01Speaker 1: uh pipe dream he planned to take the boy. I
- 25:05Speaker 1: would imagine at that point when when Grandma passes in
- 25:10Speaker 1: a hundred years, that the stay or some other family
- 25:14Speaker 1: members would come in and protect Chancellor some m You'd
- 25:19Speaker 1: think so, right, you'd think so, But you wouldn't think
- 25:22Speaker 1: somebody would gun down the mother of his baby, with
- 25:25Speaker 1: her eight months pregnant. Let me jog everyone's memory. Let
- 25:29Speaker 1: me jog Alan Duke's memory as to what exactly happened
- 25:32Speaker 1: with an Alan door wide receiver. Ray Ruth found hiding
- 25:36Speaker 1: in the trunk of a car in and arrested and
- 25:43Speaker 1: charged with hiring a hit man to kill his pregnant girlfriend,
- 25:47Speaker 1: Sharika Adams. Sharika dial nine one one, telling the operator
- 25:50Speaker 1: of someone drove by and shot her on Ray Road
- 25:53Speaker 1: in November. She later died in the hospital, her unborn
- 25:58Speaker 1: son delivered by emergency C section. Can you imagine what
- 26:02Speaker 1: they all went through? Alan, Do do you remember when
- 26:04Speaker 1: this happened and this guy had it all Alan forty
- 26:08Speaker 1: thousand dollars a game. I remember it quite well. In fact,
- 26:12Speaker 1: I remember after she died in the hospital he flat
- 26:17Speaker 1: and I think that's an admission of guilt right there.
- 26:20Speaker 1: They founded hiding in a trunk in West Gennessee, surrounded
- 26:22Speaker 1: by bottles of urine. I just want to throw that
- 26:25Speaker 1: in there. His pants were down around his knees. Talk
- 26:28Speaker 1: about a glorious arrest. They find him, like in the
- 26:32Speaker 1: parking lot of a gas station or something. They opened
- 26:35Speaker 1: the trunk. Caruth is in the trunk. Yeah, I always
- 26:38Speaker 1: do that, hang out in the trunk with my pants down,
- 26:40Speaker 1: t teen in a coke bottle. But there he was,
- 26:42Speaker 1: his pants down. Um oh, if I could only be
- 26:45Speaker 1: in there for the arrest with bottles full of urine
- 26:48Speaker 1: around him? What about that Vincent Hill. That's a pretty
- 26:51Speaker 1: long fall from glory. Forty dollars a game to hiding
- 26:56Speaker 1: in the back of your trunk with your pants down
- 26:59Speaker 1: surround about bottles of urine Vincent Hill. Yeah, you talk
- 27:02Speaker 1: about a fall from grace, Nancy. I mean, it's clear
- 27:05Speaker 1: he was trying to get to California. That's where he
- 27:07Speaker 1: told Wendy Call to take them so he could flee
- 27:09Speaker 1: to Mexico. They were on I forty westbound and Nancy,
- 27:12Speaker 1: let me point this out. Can you imagine if Sharika
- 27:15Speaker 1: did not make that nine one one call where we
- 27:18Speaker 1: would be would Ray have gotten away with this? Because
- 27:20Speaker 1: keep in mind back in nine why are you calling
- 27:22Speaker 1: him Ray like your best friends? What do you hav
- 27:24Speaker 1: him over for dinner tonight. Well, I mean, that's that's
- 27:27Speaker 1: his given name. But back in nine cell phone towers
- 27:31Speaker 1: and all that was in its infancy stage. Could you
- 27:34Speaker 1: imagine if she had not made that nine one one
- 27:36Speaker 1: call and died there on the scene, rayk Ruth could
- 27:38Speaker 1: have very well have gotten away with this. But thankfully
- 27:41Speaker 1: she had all the evidence right there in that nine
- 27:43Speaker 1: one one call. He hit the brakes, someone pulled up
- 27:46Speaker 1: behind me and shot me. I think that sealed his
- 27:48Speaker 1: fate and I'm glad she was able to make that call. You,
- 27:51Speaker 1: as I mentioned, has never admitted guilt, but he wrote
- 27:54Speaker 1: this really complicated fifteen page letter to CBSF Philly, at
- 28:00Speaker 1: w b TV and Charlotte and he wrote, quote, I
- 28:03Speaker 1: feel responsible for everything that happened, and I just want
- 28:06Speaker 1: Sandra Adams to know that, truly, I'm sorry for everything
- 28:10Speaker 1: I wanted. That says she won't sue his pants off
- 28:12Speaker 1: for wrongful death action, or you know, maybe she already did.
- 28:16Speaker 1: So he's still can't come clean. He's still even to
- 28:20Speaker 1: this day, can't come clean. Karen start, what's that all about? Denial? Nancy?
- 28:26Speaker 1: And it reminds me of Scott Peterson, cried, Yes, it's
- 28:30Speaker 1: just like Scott Peterson. That was really good. And of
- 28:34Speaker 1: course you've covered both of those. And then in that
- 28:37Speaker 1: respect you're looking at criminal. Wait a minute, hold on,
- 28:40Speaker 1: Jackie Howard, did you actually shake your head no? When
- 28:41Speaker 1: I said it reminded me of j Scott. You're saying
- 28:43Speaker 1: your head because he could not admit to his family
- 28:47Speaker 1: and friends and adoring public he did it. He so
- 28:51Speaker 1: did it. He could not accept the concept that he
- 28:54Speaker 1: was not the Scott Peterson. They all had come to
- 28:56Speaker 1: know the same thing here. What about it, Karen start,
- 28:59Speaker 1: I mean contradictions. If you look at the contradictions between
- 29:02Speaker 1: the evidence and in the case of this man, how
- 29:06Speaker 1: he's saying, you know, please forgive me. But what are
- 29:08Speaker 1: we supposed to forgive him for if in fact he's
- 29:11Speaker 1: not guilty and he's hiding in the trunk of a
- 29:13Speaker 1: car and he's trying to escape, and and he's teaching
- 29:18Speaker 1: into a coke bottle. Let me just throw that in
- 29:21Speaker 1: attempt of Okay, I'm going to say that I'm Jason Notions.
- 29:26Speaker 1: Jason notions, I want you vincent, he'll Karen start, Jackie
- 29:29Speaker 1: Howard and aland to all imagine him in the dark
- 29:32Speaker 1: of a trunk trying to t te directly into a
- 29:35Speaker 1: coke bottle. Yeah, I'm going to keep bringing it up
- 29:38Speaker 1: because it makes Jason Notions evincent. He'll cringe, all right,
- 29:41Speaker 1: That's why I'm doing it. But well, hey, Nancy, maybe
- 29:44Speaker 1: he'll write a book and say Charlie did it, and
- 29:46Speaker 1: he'll get a hypothetical like someone you're talking about, O J. Simpson.
- 29:50Speaker 1: And that's what's irritating me because I was just asked
- 29:53Speaker 1: recently on Daily Mail TV, what's going to happen? You know,
- 29:57Speaker 1: he's a licensed barber and he cuts hair or a
- 30:00Speaker 1: dollar a cut behind bars. He could go out watch, watch,
- 30:04Speaker 1: watch and open like um, a luxury barber shop where
- 30:09Speaker 1: they sell like booze and food or whatever, like a
- 30:15Speaker 1: sports barber. Why am I giving this guy ideas like
- 30:18Speaker 1: TVs all around it to watch football games and sports
- 30:21Speaker 1: games while you get your hair cut. Just keep watching
- 30:24Speaker 1: and he's gonna be lauded and put on a pedestal,
- 30:28Speaker 1: just like O. J. Simpson. And you know what that
- 30:32Speaker 1: that may be true, But when I think of Raker Ruth,
- 30:35Speaker 1: this is what I think of. Where are you at? Happened?
- 30:44Speaker 1: I was down at my boot I think he did it.
- 30:56Speaker 1: I don't know where to think of. Rayker Ruth down
- 31:00Speaker 1: to the Seamson Correctional Institute right at eight am, trading
- 31:03Speaker 1: that prison jump sued for normal clothes, a black snow
- 31:06Speaker 1: cap in a leather jacket. He was escorted by several
- 31:09Speaker 1: corrections officers into this white suburban that immediately sped off.
- 31:14Speaker 1: Ruth was convicted of being the mastermind behind the murder
- 31:16Speaker 1: of his pregnant girlfriend, Serika Adams, who was shot four
- 31:19Speaker 1: times while driving down the street in Charlotte. Thankfully, doctors
- 31:23Speaker 1: were able to save her son, Chancellor, who's now eighteen
- 31:26Speaker 1: years old and suffers from cerebral palsy. Cerebral policy will
- 31:30Speaker 1: afflict him for the rest of his life. Now. We
- 31:34Speaker 1: also heard from ray Caruth himself. Take a listen to
- 31:38Speaker 1: the former NFL star and convicted killer speaking to WU
- 31:43Speaker 1: s o c t V. Out of here. Um nervous.
- 31:49Speaker 1: It's about how we received by the public. I still
- 31:52Speaker 1: have to work, I have to live, I have to
- 31:55Speaker 1: exist out there, and it just seems like there's so
- 31:57Speaker 1: much hate and negativity towards me. Actually somewhat frightened, so
- 32:02Speaker 1: I just you know, it's a lot of it's mixed emotions,
- 32:05Speaker 1: but mainly I'm just worried about how to be received.
- 32:10Speaker 1: So coming out of here what means supposed to be
- 32:12Speaker 1: isn't regaining my freedom, but hopefully handy an opportunity to
- 32:17Speaker 1: find different ways to be there for my son that
- 32:19Speaker 1: I hadn't had a while I was incarcerating. I just
- 32:21Speaker 1: wanted to really be forgiving. You know, I noticed in
- 32:24Speaker 1: the sound he's very worried about how he is going
- 32:28Speaker 1: to be received, what people think of him, Karen start
- 32:32Speaker 1: you the New York psychologists put a shrink on that. Well,
- 32:35Speaker 1: because he's narcissistic, Nancy, he's a pathological liar. He can
- 32:40Speaker 1: believe his lies even if it's contradictory, and it's all
- 32:44Speaker 1: about him. Then he frozen at the end that he
- 32:47Speaker 1: wants to be a good father to the son whom
- 32:50Speaker 1: he actually wished was dead, or he went to try
- 32:53Speaker 1: to shoot the mother while she was pregnant. So if
- 32:56Speaker 1: you look at what he's saying, it's just a bunch
- 32:58Speaker 1: of hogwash. None of it makes any sense at all.
- 33:01Speaker 1: Pathological liar, narcissists, and did you know that's a lot
- 33:06Speaker 1: of very impressive terms. Let me go to Jason, Ocean's
- 33:12Speaker 1: criminal defense lawyer. Jason to me, what it boils down to,
- 33:16Speaker 1: he just does not want to admit what he did
- 33:18Speaker 1: well on the head the narcissism, I mean, these are
- 33:23Speaker 1: star athletes, were come from an early agent, put on
- 33:27Speaker 1: a pedestal, and the fact that he could think that
- 33:30Speaker 1: in that stage of his life, that this is what
- 33:32Speaker 1: he needed to do and move forward. Um, you know,
- 33:37Speaker 1: just highlights the narcissism. You know, he spocused about him,
- 33:41Speaker 1: his look and all he's received. I don't know, you know,
- 33:46Speaker 1: that's I think what goes into what really happened to
- 33:49Speaker 1: start with. He did not want to be saddling another child.
- 33:53Speaker 1: He did not want to pay child support. Take a
- 33:56Speaker 1: listen to Careu's teammate Frank Garcia speaking to w you
- 34:00Speaker 1: z y t V. I don't know if you think
- 34:02Speaker 1: of anybody that's working in you know, next to you,
- 34:05Speaker 1: or that you speak to every day, is capable of
- 34:07Speaker 1: doing something like that. He's going to be out in public,
- 34:09Speaker 1: and you know, I don't know if you've ever sat
- 34:12Speaker 1: next to a convicted uh, you know, killer or somebody's
- 34:16Speaker 1: success as I haven't, and I don't know how I
- 34:19Speaker 1: would react to that it would be a little nerve racking,
- 34:21Speaker 1: to say the least. I'm guessing you know what birds
- 34:24Speaker 1: of a feather flought together. Listen to vam Brett Watkins,
- 34:27Speaker 1: and you've you've got a gun there that he said
- 34:34Speaker 1: he told you to get down Atlanta, right. The purpose
- 34:39Speaker 1: of that gun, according to you, is to carry out
- 34:41Speaker 1: the shooting, right exactly. And so you get this call
- 34:46Speaker 1: and you're and you're petrified, and so you go over
- 34:49Speaker 1: there because you feel petrified, but you don't bring the
- 34:55Speaker 1: gun that you supposedly bought for purposes of this kid,
- 35:01Speaker 1: right exactly. So you're sort of a hit man without
- 35:06Speaker 1: a weapon. That what you are. If that's what you
- 35:09Speaker 1: want to say, Well, that's what you were according to you.
- 35:11Speaker 1: If that's what you I could kill you with my hands, Okay,
- 35:16Speaker 1: is that what you were? I could kill you with
- 35:18Speaker 1: my hands. I don't need again, and I didn't need
- 35:24Speaker 1: a gun, Okay, I put I left the gun in carry.
- 35:30Speaker 1: Can I just point out that that really doesn't help anything, uh,
- 35:34Speaker 1: Vincent hill cop turn p I author of playbook to
- 35:37Speaker 1: a murder? That really doesn't help you on the stand
- 35:40Speaker 1: when you look at the lawyer ago, I don't need
- 35:41Speaker 1: a gun to kill you. I can kill you with
- 35:43Speaker 1: my own hands. I'm sure the jury went home with
- 35:45Speaker 1: that ringing in their ears, probably had nightmares. Yeah, Nancy,
- 35:49Speaker 1: I think one of the jurors described the best that
- 35:51Speaker 1: he was glad that Marshams were in the courtroom. He
- 35:54Speaker 1: actually went on to say, I could rip you apart
- 35:56Speaker 1: with my bare hands like a rag doll. So you're
- 35:58Speaker 1: paying yourself as very violent and brutal killer. So why
- 36:02Speaker 1: would you go on the stand and say that it
- 36:04Speaker 1: didn't help it? On? It shows there's no self control.
- 36:07Speaker 1: But my point with this is birds of a feather
- 36:11Speaker 1: flock together. You lay down with a dog, you wake
- 36:15Speaker 1: up with a flee That's just how it goes. So
- 36:18Speaker 1: if he's such an angel and he had nothing to
- 36:21Speaker 1: do with Rika Adams murder, what was he doing hanging
- 36:24Speaker 1: out with Van Brett Watkins, the trigger man? I mean,
- 36:28Speaker 1: look around and who your friends are? And I am
- 36:32Speaker 1: not because Lord, you know, think think about it, Alan,
- 36:35Speaker 1: do you you know? I am certainly no Bible scholar,
- 36:39Speaker 1: all right? But Christ hung out with hookers and tax
- 36:43Speaker 1: collectors and bad guys and and good guys and and
- 36:48Speaker 1: great people and the disciples me hanging out with everybody.
- 36:50Speaker 1: My point is not to look down on people in
- 36:54Speaker 1: any way, but look at who you are choosing to
- 37:00Speaker 1: be with. Who are your children choosing to be with?
- 37:05Speaker 1: The school bully or the a student? Who who are
- 37:09Speaker 1: your children hanging out with? Who are you hanging out with?
- 37:12Speaker 1: Because that is a reflection of you. I think, um
- 37:17Speaker 1: am I crazy here and start of course not Nancy,
- 37:22Speaker 1: That's exactly true. And if you think about the fact
- 37:25Speaker 1: that here's somebody who is actually bragging about the ability
- 37:30Speaker 1: to kill and yet saying I had nothing to do
- 37:33Speaker 1: with it. For all, the contradictions here are outrageous, and
- 37:38Speaker 1: it's it's no surprise that they wound up going to jail.
- 37:41Speaker 1: Is everybody sitting down, y'all better lay down, because let
- 37:45Speaker 1: me tell you something. When Raker Ruth walked out of
- 37:49Speaker 1: that CI people actually started clapping. They were clapping. Okay,
- 37:56Speaker 1: I don't really know what to make of that, that
- 37:58Speaker 1: people were lapping when Ray Carruth walked out of jail.
- 38:04Speaker 1: You know what, I'm all happy for second chances, you
- 38:08Speaker 1: know what. And let's just see what Ray Carruth does
- 38:12Speaker 1: with his second chance, because he's got it. He is
- 38:16Speaker 1: a young man. He is out free, he's walking amongst
- 38:21Speaker 1: us right now, at this very minute. He can start
- 38:25Speaker 1: all over. But I just wonder, based on what he
- 38:29Speaker 1: was saying, is he really going to start over or
- 38:33Speaker 1: is it just more of the same. I remember this
- 38:38Speaker 1: one about where are You're at? I don't Nancy Grace
- 39:01Speaker 1: Crimes Stories, signing off goodbye friend.