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Ep. 66 : Arizona Fall League Standouts · Cards & Categories

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  Speaker 1: Hello, Wyn, Welcome everybody to episode sixty six of Cards
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  Speaker 1: and Categories. I'm Mike cool Ard from Rasball, joined as
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  Speaker 1: always by my very good friend Jeremy Burr, also from Rasball.
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  Speaker 1: How you're doing tonight, buddy.
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing very very well because I do not have
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  Speaker 2: to completely apologize about a Dodgers sweep for calling the
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  Speaker 2: Yankees to win. So I didn't completely jinks the World Series.
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  Speaker 2: I only mostly jinks the World Series. So I'm doing
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  Speaker 2: a lot better now that the Yankees have decided to
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  Speaker 2: show up for the second half of the World Series.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there was some jinxing going on. We definitely,
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  Speaker 1: I think got inside of the manager's heads a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: especially after Game one, some of the follies that Aaron
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  Speaker 1: Boone had that I was like, oh, yeah, that's my fault. Sorry,
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  Speaker 1: But we are speaking on October thirtieth, Wednesday night, Game
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  Speaker 1: five of the World Series. That is happening right now.
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  Speaker 1: The Yankees are up for nothing. So I also have to,
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  Speaker 1: like I've been all day kind of like you know,
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  Speaker 1: prepping in my mind what I was going to talk
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  Speaker 1: about in terms of like recapping these games and how
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  Speaker 1: lifeless the Yankees had looked, but they're totally making us
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  Speaker 1: flip the script because they opened the game tonight with
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  Speaker 1: the bombastic first inning Aaron Judge breaking out the home
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  Speaker 1: run stick and getting that swing grooved. I mean he
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  Speaker 1: also got an absolute meatball from Jack Clarity right down
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  Speaker 1: the middle. But we might be in for that longer
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  Speaker 1: World Series after those first three games with the Dodgers. Way,
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  Speaker 1: that's where we'll start. We'll start with recapping some of
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  Speaker 1: the World Series stuff and then we're going to move
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  Speaker 1: into discussing the Arizona Fall League. I'm going out to
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  Speaker 1: Phoenix tomorrow for First Pitch Arizona. So if you're listening
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  Speaker 1: to this and you're looking for somebody to meet up
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  Speaker 1: with and First Pitch Arizona and say hi, I will
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  Speaker 1: be out there attending some of the seminars, some of
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  Speaker 1: the podcast recordings, and the games. And it looks like
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  Speaker 1: I might have some World Series games to watch. So
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  Speaker 1: what has really stood out for you in this World
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  Speaker 1: Series matchup so far for these first four and a
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  Speaker 1: third games.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think you hit it right. It's
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  Speaker 2: like if you would have asked me that like a
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  Speaker 2: day ago, it would have been a completely different answer
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  Speaker 2: than is right now. So it's all I'll call it
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  Speaker 2: a few things. First fall, Freddy Freeman. That's a pretty
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  Speaker 2: easy one. I think when we talked last week it was,
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  Speaker 2: you know, some role players going to show up and
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  Speaker 2: do something crazy. I don't know that you consider Freddie
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  Speaker 2: Freeman a role player per se, but like there were
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  Speaker 2: so many questions about the injury and can the guy
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  Speaker 2: even walk and things like that, and he's like, I
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  Speaker 2: don't need to walk. I can walk around the bases
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  Speaker 2: if I hit it out of the park. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: he's now hit a home run in six consecutive World
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  Speaker 2: Series games. Nobody has ever hit a home run in
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  Speaker 2: every single game of the World Series in which you
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  Speaker 2: know the team you know, I would have to think
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  Speaker 2: that win if that's to happen. Uh So we'll see
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  Speaker 2: if he continues the streak tonight. But definitely Freddy Freeman
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  Speaker 2: stick stands out absolutely. I think you also hit the
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  Speaker 2: nail on the head that Aaron Boone has unfortunately stood
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  Speaker 2: out for his lack of managing nothing like the contract
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  Speaker 2: year and throwing Nestll Cortez hasn't thrown a pitch in
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  Speaker 2: five years out on the mound to try to save
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  Speaker 2: this one, and so yeah, that that also jumps out.
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  Speaker 2: And probably the last thing for me is, man, this
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  Speaker 2: has been fun, Like it has just been an absolutely
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  Speaker 2: fun World Series. I know, yesterday was a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of a blowout game and we might be on the
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  Speaker 2: way like again tonight with with the Yankees Bats all
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  Speaker 2: of a sudden coming alive. But it has been like there,
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  Speaker 2: there haven't These haven't been massive blowouts, they haven't been
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  Speaker 2: you know things just like well, the game was kind
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  Speaker 2: of over, we just coasted the end. It has been
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  Speaker 2: exciting almost the entire time, and that's really been fun
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  Speaker 2: to watch, fun to jump in and enjoy. And there's
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  Speaker 2: no lack of talent on these two teams making it happen.
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  Speaker 2: So that's it for me. Those are the big things
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  Speaker 2: jumping out. What about you, what's been some of the
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  Speaker 2: highlights for you of the World Series so far?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, obviously you've got to talk about Freddie Freeman.
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  Speaker 1: That you can tell that those days off that they
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  Speaker 1: had allowed him to rehabilitate that ankle a little bit
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  Speaker 1: and found his power stroke. Whatever game plan the Yankees
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  Speaker 1: had against him, I think was maybe a little more
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  Speaker 1: centered on him being banged up and like I was
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  Speaker 1: gonna say wrong, yeah, but I mean right out the
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  Speaker 1: gate in Game one. I mean, what an epic Game
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  Speaker 1: one mirroring the Kirk Gibson walk off home or off
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  Speaker 1: of Dennis Seckersley. So of course this means Nestra Cortes
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  Speaker 1: on his way to a Hall of Fame closing career,
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  Speaker 1: although obviously different way that we got there. And what's
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  Speaker 1: crazy is that that Freeman Homer just erased so much
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  Speaker 1: of what happened in that game that was amazing. On
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  Speaker 1: top of in the tenth inning, Jazz Chisholm swiping those
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  Speaker 1: couple of stor on bases, he I think was the
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  Speaker 1: first player ever with three stolen bases in a World
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  Speaker 1: Series game with that effort, and then you also had
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  Speaker 1: the Alex Berdugo catch over in left field against the
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  Speaker 1: wall that kind of was reminiscent of Derek Jeter diving
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  Speaker 1: into the stands at Yankee Stadium slash like Steve Bartman,
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  Speaker 1: although we got Evil Steve Bartman in Game of five
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  Speaker 1: or Game four, sorry apologies, and even that, like Game
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  Speaker 1: four was a game up until that eighth inning when
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  Speaker 1: the Dodgers bullpen imploded. There a little bit, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: it was a one run game, the Dodgers were in it,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, a three four run lead even as
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  Speaker 1: the Yankees have right now, it's not safe in Yankee
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  Speaker 1: Stadium with these offenses that it can explode pretty quickly,
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  Speaker 1: and we saw that in Game four with you know,
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  Speaker 1: the non Judge and Soto bats coming alive for the Yankees.
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  Speaker 1: I was, it's kind of crazy how just the start
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  Speaker 1: of this game has really turned the narrative of the
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  Speaker 1: World Series around. Because I was even prepping for like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, if Jack Flaherty was looking good and the
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  Speaker 1: Dodgers were up a runner two as we started this
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  Speaker 1: podcast that you know, starting the narrative of Hey, Game
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  Speaker 1: four was all fun in games that the Yankees got
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  Speaker 1: the bottom of their lineup going, but they kept Judge
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  Speaker 1: in Soto kind of in check. Really unraveled today because
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  Speaker 1: you can see in Game five where the Judge and
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  Speaker 1: Sodo combo came back to bite the Dodgers finally. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's been a fantastic heavyweight bout. I've really enjoyed it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you call it a fun one there that
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  Speaker 2: I'd failed to mention as the Bartman type situation here
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  Speaker 2: with Mookie Bets. I don't know that a's worth spending
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  Speaker 2: a lot of time on that, because the Internet's taken
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  Speaker 2: plenty of pleasure in that one. I think the only
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  Speaker 2: fans that appreciated that were potentially Yankees fans, and that
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  Speaker 2: might say say something there as far as people a
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  Speaker 2: certain time, a certain type of Yankee fans, Yes, like
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  Speaker 2: after one or two additional drinks, I think, which you
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  Speaker 2: know that that's that's unfortunate. That's for the game, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and uh, you know, I think how many highlights you
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  Speaker 2: go back to prior World Series of uh fans reaching
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  Speaker 2: over the wall and stealing home runs and interfering what
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  Speaker 2: was the.
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  Speaker 1: We had to remember that with the glaper Torres double,
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  Speaker 1: with the fan reaching over doing his best Jeffrey Mayer
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  Speaker 1: in impersonation, another like just like it was a crazy game,
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  Speaker 1: one of like throwbacks. And I also enjoyed the way
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  Speaker 1: that that that fan ski daddled out of there immediately
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  Speaker 1: after he was like nope, we got to get out
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  Speaker 1: of here, son, And even like when he was making
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  Speaker 1: the catch, the guy next to him in the stands
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  Speaker 1: was like, bro, like what are you doing? Like this
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  Speaker 1: is home game. Do you're not like so, uh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I totally actually kind of forgotten about that moment until
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  Speaker 1: you brought it up.
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  Speaker 2: So it's yeah, it's it's it's just it's been a
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  Speaker 2: fun world series, and I think that's that was kind
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  Speaker 2: of what we were hoping for, uh, with with these
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  Speaker 2: two teams like being kind of heavyweights, that they would
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  Speaker 2: you know, I don't think we were expecting the Dodgers
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  Speaker 2: to jump out to a three to nothing lead. I
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  Speaker 2: think both of us said the series was gonna go seven.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe I still will, but I don't think either of
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  Speaker 2: us really saw the Dodgers just taking a bowl by
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  Speaker 2: the horns and really making it what it is. But
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  Speaker 2: we'll see here as things finish out. You know. I
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  Speaker 2: still you have to say the Dodgers the favorites at
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  Speaker 2: this point, you know, the Yankees absolutely have to run
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  Speaker 2: on the table. I am frankly very shocked that because
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  Speaker 2: Garrett Cole pitched really, really well in you know, Game one,
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  Speaker 2: I am kind of shocked that they did not bring
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  Speaker 2: him back for Game four to try to get Game
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  Speaker 2: four and seven out of him, just because of how
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  Speaker 2: the pitchings looked for the Yankees, like I'm the back
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  Speaker 2: getting there, and so you know they're gonna get everything
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  Speaker 2: from him tonight, and so that's gonna probably pay play
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  Speaker 2: well in their favor, especially when they're given a four
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  Speaker 2: spot after two innings. That's uh, you know, works pretty well.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm kind of surprised that they didn't try to
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  Speaker 2: stretch and get three full games out of Garrett Cole.
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  Speaker 2: Uh you know, hey, Aaron Boone, Yeah, you haven't brought
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  Speaker 2: a world seriously Yankees in New York here for some time.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe you got to pull off all the stops on
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  Speaker 2: this one. And by that I mean not Nestra Cortez.
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  Speaker 1: What a yeah, what a strange moment, and just like
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  Speaker 1: what a crazy high leverage situation to have him enter
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  Speaker 1: in in the ball that he threw to Otani there
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  Speaker 1: that Otani fouled off and for Duco caught was also
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  Speaker 1: a cookie that was not something that Otani missed by much,
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  Speaker 1: and honestly, I think it almost threw Otani off a
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  Speaker 1: little bit that it was such a grooved pitch and
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  Speaker 1: he barely missed it. So Uh. The other thing is
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  Speaker 1: like with Game four, like I do wonder if they
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  Speaker 1: holstered coal there because they knew the dodg were doing
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  Speaker 1: that bullpen game, and like you, I think actually, like
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  Speaker 1: John Smoltz has been talking about this a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: that like these lineups, because they're so deep, they just
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  Speaker 1: shred through bullpens like not great pitchers, and maybe Boone
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  Speaker 1: felt like they had a better shot with that going
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  Speaker 1: into the game as well as like Louise Heield looked
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  Speaker 1: pretty good, like he's been pretty well rested, and he
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  Speaker 1: did a pretty good job of limiting walks and staying
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  Speaker 1: in the game, staying in the counts, and ultimately, like
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  Speaker 1: in Game four, I was kind of surprised that Dave
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  Speaker 1: Roberts didn't go with a quicker hook on Daniel Hudson.
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  Speaker 1: It was very evident in that third inning that Hudson
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  Speaker 1: did not have anything going for him, that he was
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  Speaker 1: struggling to find a groove, struggling to find the zone.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, those four runs were really consequential given
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  Speaker 1: how tight that game was going until the eighth inning.
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  Speaker 1: That I know that that strategy worked for Dave Roberts
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  Speaker 1: and the Dodgers in the NLCS to almost conceive games
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  Speaker 1: by going with suboptimal bullpen usage. But you have to
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  Speaker 1: wonder if that comes back to bite them here in
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  Speaker 1: the World Series against a significantly better Yankees team.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you do a good point there. It'll be
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  Speaker 2: interesting to see even with tonight's game with you or
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  Speaker 2: Yankees jump out to a lead, like do the Dodgers
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  Speaker 2: kind of say, we are keeping all of our best pitchers,
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  Speaker 2: giving them rest, getting them a chance, and so we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna throughout the back of the bullpen. We're going against
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  Speaker 2: Cole here, let's kind of still give it a shot,
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  Speaker 2: but let's live to have our absolute best another day.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll see. I will I'm gonna still say I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna take the Yankees just because I feel like I
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  Speaker 2: to the for the Dodger. I owe it to the
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  Speaker 2: Dodgers at this point to keep the jinks going the
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  Speaker 2: opposite way. But I think that the paintings on the
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  Speaker 2: wall at this point in time.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, yeah, if there's one way to maybe
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  Speaker 1: open up that twenty sixteen portal to hell that the
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  Speaker 1: Cubs opened a comeback for by the Yankees in seven
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  Speaker 1: games for the first down three nothing comeback in the
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  Speaker 1: World Series, that might do it. Which yeah, ooh boy, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and yes, Fordy Freeman.
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  Speaker 2: Still gonna be the MVP, like the Yankey's winning. Fredy
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  Speaker 2: Fruman gets MVP for Rhanton and home runs seven straight
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  Speaker 2: World Series games.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, at this point, like, if they do turn
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  Speaker 1: around Jazz, it's got to be in the talks too.
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  Speaker 1: He had a big old tonight those three stolen bases.
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  Speaker 1: He's looked much more lively, and you know, if you
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  Speaker 1: they can get Jazz staying hot like that makes the
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  Speaker 1: Sodo Judge combination even more dangerous because if you have
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  Speaker 1: both of them on base and Jazz is locked in, yikes.
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  Speaker 1: One thing I we didn't bring up that I did
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  Speaker 1: want to cover is Walker Buehler. Like, I know you've
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  Speaker 1: always been in on Walker Bueler and loved him, and
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  Speaker 1: he looked pretty good in the NLCS start, But that
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  Speaker 1: World Series start was vintage stuff from him. Is it
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  Speaker 1: something you think he can keep rolling into next season?
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  Speaker 1: He is a free agent, so so I mean, if
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't pitch again, that could really be a pretty
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  Speaker 1: nice feather in his cap going into negotiations. But did
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  Speaker 1: Walker Buehler show you like enough that like going forward
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  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five From a fantasy perspective, you're getting
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  Speaker 1: bought back in.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it does, you know, give you a
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  Speaker 2: little bit of hope because you know, he's coming off
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  Speaker 2: the injury, like really, like I want to say, coming
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  Speaker 2: off the injury right now, but like it some of
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  Speaker 2: those those arm entries takes some time to really kind
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  Speaker 2: of build all the way back up, and it does
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  Speaker 2: feel like that's what he's doing and he's still figuring
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  Speaker 2: things out. It's it's gonna take some time. And Buehler's
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  Speaker 2: always been a great pitcher when fully healthy, and so
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  Speaker 2: it's just a matter of, like can he sustain it.
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  Speaker 2: So I do think it gives me a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of tick up the draft board next year. And I'm
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  Speaker 2: not moving into like my top ten by any means
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  Speaker 2: or anything, but I definitely think, you know, he's a
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  Speaker 2: little bit intriguing, especially because people are gonna look at
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  Speaker 2: his full season numbers. Right one World Series games where
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  Speaker 2: you pitch five innings. This isn't gonna be you know,
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  Speaker 2: what people remember they should, but it's you know, they're
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  Speaker 2: gonna look at those season stats and said, man, he
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  Speaker 2: still is trying to figure out. Yeah, he had a
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  Speaker 2: good game or two in the postseason.
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  Speaker 1: So I think that he.
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  Speaker 2: Actually might be attempting steal at the at the draft table.
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  Speaker 2: Still some risk, but you're right, I do like myself
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  Speaker 2: some Walker Bueller, So I'll probably have a few shares
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  Speaker 2: next year.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and he is coming off the second Tommy John.
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  Speaker 1: He had the first one back in college at Vandy,
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  Speaker 1: So there's that factor with that rehab that's taken him.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he's a year and a half I think
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  Speaker 1: removed from the TJ if I'm right. And then on
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  Speaker 1: top of it to like, yeah, it'll be interesting to
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  Speaker 1: see what the twenty twenty five projections kind of kick
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  Speaker 1: out for him, because that's what's gonna really dictate. I
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  Speaker 1: think his price is, like it's gonna involve a lot
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  Speaker 1: of that for twenty twenty four effort that he put up,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, the projections might not quite pick up
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  Speaker 1: what he did in the World Series. We also, we
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  Speaker 1: haven't talked about the Otani shoulder injuries, so we kind
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  Speaker 1: of have avoided it, maybe because it does make me
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  Speaker 1: a little sad and a little worried. Although tonight he
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  Speaker 1: looked a little better that he wasn't like holding up
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  Speaker 1: his left arm while he was running around the bases,
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  Speaker 1: looking like he was kind of in a sling, it
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  Speaker 1: was a little freer and looser. But if you're not aware,
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  Speaker 1: in Game three, Otani was stealing second base and when
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  Speaker 1: he went down to the ground to slide feet first
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  Speaker 1: into the base, the way that he slides, it's a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of like an interesting setup, partly born of
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  Speaker 1: like his roots from playing in Japanese baseball, but also
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  Speaker 1: he's developed that slide over time to protect his pitching arm,
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  Speaker 1: so like that's why he doesn't ever slide face first,
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  Speaker 1: because he's never wanting to mess with those little fingies
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  Speaker 1: and making sure that they're getting jammed up. So when
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  Speaker 1: he fell back, I mean I thought maybe it was
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  Speaker 1: like a broken wrist or a forearm or elbow issue,
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  Speaker 1: which would have been really terrible, But sounds like it
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  Speaker 1: was just a much more minor subluxation of the shoulder
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  Speaker 1: as opposed to a complete separation. But if you recall,
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  Speaker 1: this is pretty similar I think to what Fernando Tatist
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  Speaker 1: Junior was dealing with before he had that ped suspension
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  Speaker 1: then had the left shoulder surgery during that suspension. This
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  Speaker 1: is Otani's left arm, which is gonna be less problematic
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  Speaker 1: for him as a batter. It's more problematic as your
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  Speaker 1: front lead arm. So that's why it really sapped Fernando
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  Speaker 1: Tatis's Junior's power. But what I think you can see
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  Speaker 1: where I'm teeing you up for this question, But like,
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  Speaker 1: are you worried about Otani in a longer term situation
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  Speaker 1: here with his shoulder that like it's popped out once
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  Speaker 1: And I've known people in my life that have had
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  Speaker 1: this where like, once it pops out, it just keeps
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  Speaker 1: popping out until you get it surgically fixed for now,
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  Speaker 1: and Tatist Junior can attest to this too, So what
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  Speaker 1: do you think that this could do for Otani going forward?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it can maybe a little, like I
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  Speaker 2: was asterisk on his value, but he's still by far
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  Speaker 2: the number one player that you look to take off
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  Speaker 2: draft boards. You know, you got a top ten pitcher,
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: you got arguably a top two hitter or top one hitter.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know how you want to look at it.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: And if he's got a little injury risk, okay, so
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: he's still the best player on the draft board. So
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's really gonna change much for me
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: at this point in time. Yeah, there's a hint of
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: a little risk there something something could happen, but that
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: the same could be said for anybody, So I'm not
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: you know, if it was maybe mid season, I might
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: be a little bit more cautious for the rest of
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: the season. But we're talking he's got maybe three games
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: left and then he's gonna rest that thing, and he's
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: gonna make sure he's healthy. He's gonna be finishing rehabbing
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: to get back on the mound like he's gonna be
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: making sure he takes it easy and healthy for next year.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: So I'm not I'm not terribly concerned. I think this
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: is one of those things we probably wouldn't even been
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: talking about. If it was during the regular season, he
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: probably would have tweaked his shoulder a little bit, taken
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: a few days off just to kind of get over
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: some soreness, and been back in the game, and we
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: probably woudn't even been talking about this. So I think
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: it's just it happens to be the World Series, and
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: so it's got a little extra focus because of the
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: show he Otani and it's the World Series. So I'm
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: not too concerned. Maybe I'm a glass half full on
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: this one, but I'll look past it.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think it's a little tough to
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: figure it out fully just because of like there's a
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: fog of war situation going on here with baseball espionage
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: where they're not going to fully disclose the extent of
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: the damage to the shoulder and the World Series, as
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: you know, the Dodgers want to keep the Yankees guessing here.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: And I mean Otani has batted lead off the past
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: two games. In the first game of in his first
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: set bat of Game four, took a took a walk
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: right off the bat, and ever since then, the Yankees
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: have started kind of peppering the zone. In his first
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: set bat tonight, Otani swung at the first fastball from
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Garrett Cole and honestly didn't miss it by much. So
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: it does look like he's maybe he's on the mend.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: And yeah, I think I'm signing with you here a
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: little bit that if it wasn't during the regular season,
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: maybe it would be like a ten day iel stent
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: and we get a little more information on the shoulder.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: But until we hear anything is supremely wrong with it,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: that I think you gotta kind of chalk it up
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: to just your standard, you know, Nix and knacks from
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: playing baseball every day for six straight months. That you know,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: guys get beat up here and there, and thankfully you'll
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: have that an offseason to rested after these next few games.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so well we'll see.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: You're right.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: You never know, you might get out of the World
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Series here and get a big bombshell that his shoulder
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: actually was no longer attached. I don't know, but we'll see.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, the Yankees have tacked on another run.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: They're up five to nothing. Gian Carlos Stanton went deep.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: So it is really unraveling for the Dodgers because all
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: the big bats are getting hot now and like that's
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: that's no brain for them, although they will have the
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: rest of pitching staff. We will talk about it next
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: week when for sure the World Series will be wrapped up.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Whether or not America still exists, that's another question. We
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: will check in on that next week. But we actually
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: have another piece of news here that's actually like affecting
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: our discussion here that we have a real move that happened,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: as Will Venable has been hired now as the head
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: coach for the Chicago White Sox, taking over for Grady Sizemore.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Venable has been a bench coach for the Texas Rangers,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: was there during that World Series run last year under
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Bruce Bochie. He's been getting lots and lots of kind
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: of talk for being a future head coach and manager,
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: and so it was only kind of a matter of
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: time before Venable found a landing spot. Also kind of
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: seems like one of those guys where a little bit
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: of like Skip Shoemaker when he got hired by the Marlins,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: that like, if he wanted to be in on the
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Will Venable your manager action, Maybe he is a year
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: or two away from like being fully like vetted and
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: groomed and ready to go for it. But you know
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: you got to jump on him early if you're the
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: White Sox to give him that opportunity. So what do
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: you think that this could portend for the Chicago White
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Sox And how long before we get a joke or
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: any questions from the media about when when Will Venable
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: will be inserting himself into the lineup because he's not
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: that far from being retired.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Vinible, I think forty two. So Jamie Moyer thinks
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: he's young, but it's you know, I like the higher.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: I think it's a good move to your point.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: You know, it maybe is a year or too early
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: for Vinable, but he's he's one of those that's a
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: kind of an up and rising coach everybody. He was
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: in the running for the Marlins job as well. He's
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: done the running for a few other jobs in the
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: past few years. So I think that portrends well. I
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: was very interested just to see if which side of
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: the coin the White Socks were gonna go, if they
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: were gonna go old veteran for some stability and expertise,
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: kind of like two different conover in Cincinnati, and then
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: it seemed like Phil Nevian was trying to sneak his
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: way into the conversation as well. And you know, hey,
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: the White Socks have tried that before with this guy
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: called Antonio Larusa, so that clearly didn't play well. So
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: I like the move here because this is gonna be
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: a young team and they kind of need somebody I
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: think that's gonna relate to them and not be three
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: times four times their age trying to coach. I think
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Vinible is still close enough to the game. He's, like
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: I said, he's not too far retired here that he's
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: gonna be really well connected to these players and be
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: able to kind of groom them and take what you
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: can probably say is ragdad group here and try to
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: pull them together. Because the White Socks aren't winning on
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: skill alone. They're gonna have to win anoxie and teamwork.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: So I like the move. I think Vinible will be
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: given some lead to run here in Chicago. I sure hope,
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: because I think he has a lot of potential. I
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: am frankly surprised that Schumacher was knocked out of running
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: so fast, but hey, it's it's gonna be interesting to
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: see that maybe one of the hottest names from the
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: coaching circuit doesn't land a manager job this year, with
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Schumacher striking out in Cincinnati.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: In Chicago, yeah, I mean, I would be fascinated to
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: see that behind the scenes discussions that have happened for
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: this managerial search. I mean, I thought it was all
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: kind of a farce that they were gonna end up
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: just going with Grady Sizemore and calling it a day.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: But yeah, especially with Skip Schumacher, you wonder like who
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: pulled the plug on that that. You know, this is
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: a tough managerial spot to fill that. You know, you
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: had to find somebody who wanted to prove themselves a
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: little bit like Venable and or you know, go another
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: route in terms of something internal, which not like the
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: White Sox have anything there, or just like some sort
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: of old breech red, which, like you said, that's not
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: gonna be how Chris Getz saves his job here at
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: the end of the gate of the day that like
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Jerry Reinsdorff and the rest of that ownership group is
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: going to have an end to the leash that gets
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: gets eventually. Yeah, I guess will be interesting to see
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: what Venable can kind of what life he can breathe
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: into this team. There's gonna be a lot of work
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: for the White Sox to do in the off season
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: and lots of just like structural issues that that the
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: organization's got to deal with before they can even start
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: like thinking about competing. Because the prospect load is good,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: but like I'm not sure if they've got the pieces
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: in place to develop them and bring them through that.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Like we've seen Colson Montgomery struggle this year and be injured.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: But that's the White Sox mo that they seem to
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: not be able to develop guys or keep them healthy.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting to see how it all pulls
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: together here over the off season.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be fun to see one less seat on
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: the WA and Zuira hot seats. So mar Marlins, what
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: are you gonna do?
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Okay, Well, we're going to take a short break,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: but we will be back to discuss some of the
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: breakouts that we've seen in the Arizona Fall League so far.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Just kind of also discuss the Arizona Fall League in general,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: and look at, you know, what sort of prospects we
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: might be acquiring because of their performances. So stick around,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: all right, Welcome back, everybody. So we are going to
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: talk about the Arizona Fall League and some breakout performances
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: that we've seen while they've been playing down there in
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: Phoenix over the past couple of weeks, especially bringing up
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: because I will be down there in Phoenix this weekend
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: for First Pitch Arizona watching some of these players play
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: in between watching the World Series games. It sounds like
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: now because the Yankees again are still rolling, and if
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: you're not familiar with what the Arizona Fall League is,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: it's a obviously a fall league, and that happens every
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: October after the season, in which usually the best prospects
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: within organizations go down there to get a little extra run.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: And it's a little bit more of like a Future's
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: All Star Futures Game environment in terms of lots of
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: the best prospects are down there, and they're kind of
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: mixed within each team, so you know, you don't have
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: a full slate of thirty teams down there in Arizona.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: That you've got slim down rosters, So each individual team
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: sends a handful of players to make up that roster.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: And then usually you're getting especially hitters who need just
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: a little extra work in terms of their development time,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: looking to maybe jump the level next year, get a
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: little extra work in, have been injured as well, like
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: we have players like When Arroyo from the Cincinnati Reds
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: who has been injured all year going down there to
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: get some extra work in. And then the pitching side,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: it usually features players who are, you know, a little
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: bit closer to the major leagues. I would say that
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: this year the crop of pitching has been really subpar.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: That like from the reports I've been reading, and you
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: can see it in the stats. I will link to
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: that in the show notes so that you can check
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: it out there. The just all the stats that have
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: happened to the Fall League you will see when you
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: scroll through it. On the pitching side, it took me.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if I have recognized more
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: than like one out of every twenty pitchers. Like it
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: is a real grab bag of players who are developing pitches.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: I think is a lot what's going on this year
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: or like just testing out new things. So with that caveat,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: keep in mind as we discuss these things, a lot
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: of these stats are kind of wonky. But with that,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: you know, we've still had some reports back on good
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: players and good performances. Obviously also playing in the altitude
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: and desert environment of Phoenix, so there's a lot of
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: offensive heavy games. And so with all that in mind, Brewer, is,
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: are you kind of looking for anything individually in a
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: stat line or from a scout report that comes out
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: of the Fall League that really peaks your interest for
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: dynasty keeper leagues or going into twenty twenty five Fantasy
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: draft next year.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, you know, I'm really looking the Fall League.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: You know, it's they're probably two things. One, the prospects
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: that are getting their first kind of cup of tea
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: with the Fall League, the younger guys maybe facing a
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: little bit steeper competition because it isn't just like double
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: A or Triple A guys. It's kind of a smattering
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: of guys. So seeing some of those younger guys could
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: get for one of the first times get tested against
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: arguably some better competition. Now you just did just call
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: out the pitching competition may not be necessarily better this
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: year around, but I am looking for one of those
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: guys that are, you know, showing their metal and maybe
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: potentially above kind of their prospect grade at this point,
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: and is that going to get them a bump up
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: next year on the minor league ladder. Then the other
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: thing I'm looking at is those guys that are on
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: kind of the precipice of the major leagues and whether
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: they're trying a new tool or they're just trying to
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: show that yes, I am absolutely ready and the team
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: just wanted to get one more look, and they're trying
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: a different position, or they're trying you know, they're trying something.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: I think Matt mclaine's a really good example for the
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: Reds this year. They're trying Mountain center field and they're
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: trying to get him some exposure there because they need
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: more help from the outfield, and so that's something to
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: be watching for, a potential change in value for a
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: guy like Matt McClane who can get some multi positional eligibility.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: So those are kind of the two things that I'm
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: really looking for here. And you know, frankly, maybe you
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: just get lucky and find some guy that you haven't
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: really heard of kind of breaking out and showing you
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: something that you might almost want to pay atention to
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: next spring. So those are the kind of things that
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: I'm looking for. Is there any any one thing that
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: you're kind of honed in on that you're looking for
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: or is it kind of in the same vein.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's in the same vein. And I
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: think this is also a time when scouting reports are
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: pretty important too, So like a lot of these players
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: that we're discussing from great offensive performances have also I've
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: read scouting reports either from Baseball Prospectus or Keith Law
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: or Eric Longenhangen where they have also given like a
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: thumbs up on the player and said you know, he's
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: been looking great during these ball league appearances that the
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: eye has been looking good, especially with these young players,
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Like you're just testing, like can they hit upper level
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: pitching in terms of like you know, not only the velocity,
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: but lots of different spin. You know, in the lower levels,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: some of these guys are in the DSL, the Dominican
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: League or the Florida Complex leagues and barely seeing in
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: you know, great kind of major league quality sinker or
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: not sinker sliders and curveballs and things like that, so
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: it's big for them to see them in the Fall league.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: And then the other thing is like I'm kind of
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: viewing all these stats with like a grain of salt
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: the way you would almost in spring training, where like
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: lots of wonky environments, lots of people trying stuff out,
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: and so you're looking at things that stabilize pretty quickly
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: and kind of show a skill, especially at the plate.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: So I'm looking at walk in k rates especially just
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: to see, you know, is this player striking out too
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: much on either side, Like is the picture generating strikeouts
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: or is the hitter not getting enough contact? And then
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: same thing with walks, so you know, if they can
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: handle that plate discipline and show improvement there, then it
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: can usually turn into better things down the line. But yeah,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: with all that kind of caveat and intro, we're going
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: to focus mostly on hitters. We've got seven hitters lined
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: up to discuss, is that right, two, four, six, seven,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: and then but we will just touch on a few
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: pitchers who I think have stood out, because, like I said,
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: a lot of these guys I don't know if they're
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: going to be significant players in Major League Baseball going
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: to twenty twenty five or for the fantasy side either so,
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: but there are a few. The name that really stands
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: out at the top of the list is Philly's big
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: time prospect, number one prospect, Andrew Painter. Has been down
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: there rehabbing in the Fall League and has looked pretty good.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: So I looked up these stats yesterday. I'll go live
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: with the results from last night's games when we get
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: into the batters. But on the pitching side, Andrew Painter
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: has thrown seven innings, made three starts with a three
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: eighty six earra, a one whip seven to one K
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: to walk, and by all reports, looks like he's sitting
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: pretty well on the radar ground between seventy around like
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: ninety seven touching up to ninety nine. So that is
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: really what you're looking for in Painter as he's coming
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: back from Tommy and John surgery, has good control, has
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: good velocity. So with those coming together, Brew, are you
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: looking for Painter to be a dark horse to break
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: camp with the Phillies in twenty twenty five? Yeah?
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: I think so. I mean it's if it wasn't for injuries,
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: he'd be in the majors the last two years, right,
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: And I think that, you know, you get to this point,
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: there's not development that they're looking for for Andrew Painter.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: They're looking to see if he's fully healthy and he
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: has everything back to where he was, and that's what
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: they're hoping. And so I think that there he's showing
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: in the Fall League that yeah, he's he deserves a
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: role in that in that rotation, and he's going to
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: be I wouldn't say a dark horse to get a spot.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: I think he's gonna say I need a spot, I
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: deserve a spot. And then from a fantasy perspective, that
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: makes him a really really intriguing dart throw because he's
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: gonna he's gonna rise up dashboards or dashboards draft boards
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: really quickly in the spring, if you know, if he
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: is showing healthy and getting a few of those springs starts.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: So I think this is exciting for Patriots. To your point,
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: he's probably a minimum boys right now in the Fall League.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: He's probably one of the best players out there. So
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: I'm not reading too much into the stat line per se.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: I'm reading more into the velocity and the fact that
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: he's out there, the control is sticking around. Those are
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: the things I'm looking for, and you gotta be absolutely
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: tickled if you're a Phillies fan for what he can
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: bring next year.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally agree. So I think everything right there
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: is spot on. You're looking at, like essentially young Justin Furlander,
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: I think an enter painters. So it's just kind of
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: a matter of time of when he breaks into the
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: major leagues. I think next picture that I want to
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: cover is just it's been quite a standout performance and
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: a cap on what has been a middling year, I
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: would say for this picture, but like in front of
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: this great competition with a tough, you know, pitturing environment.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Josh Stefan for the I've never even heard of him
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: before I was looking at these stats for the Texas Rangers.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: Twenty two year old has put up a point seven
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: one ear ra, a point eighty seven whip, twelve strikeouts
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: to three k's in twelve and two thirds innings. He's
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: thrown the second most innings down there in the Fall League.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: And so this is I just kind of wanted to
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: put him on people's radars because this is the type
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: of performance from the pitching side where it does start
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: standing out to me. You know, he is a twenty
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: two year old, so he's already a little young for
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: the level at Double A and has been you know,
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: around like a forty grade prospect for Fangrafts and other outlets.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: But this is the type of performance where you know,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: in front of bigger, tough pitching environment that it stands
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: out that like, this is a guy that I'm certainly
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: watched the listing in Dynasty leagues and maybe anything else
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: that you see in Stefan's profile that intrigues you specifically,
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: or are there other hallmarks in his performance that would
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: make you kind of add players of this ilk to
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: year scouting reports for your dynasty leagues or not your
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: scouting reports you're watchless.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he does have some of those hallmarks.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: You know, this year his strikeouts did drop a little bit,
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: but throughout, you know, every other year he's been kind
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: of a ten K or nine type of guy. Control
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: has seemed pretty reasonable, does a good job keeping the
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: ball on the ground. He like I said, this year
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: was kind of a step back for him, and so
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: that's kind of what I'm I'm excited to see him
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: doing better in the Fall League here, so it'll be
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: interesting to see what he portrends into into next season.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: But yeah, he's he's not a guy wh'm going out
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: and like eyeing or grabbing or anything like that. And
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: in a deep league, but definitely one I'm kind of
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: watching because you can see the ingredients there. But it's
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: it's kind of hard to tell if he is just
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: kind of pitching above the competition and you know, a
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: little bit more mature than the competition, or if he
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: actually has really really good stuff. So I think that's
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: what'll be fun to see. To your point, with kind
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: of the varied schemes in the Fall League, it's hard
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: to put a whole lot of stock into the twelve
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: innings that he's put in there, but it's it's definitely
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: put him on notice of like I should at least
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: check in on him every so often going into twenty
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: twenty five.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean part of it too is he's
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: been rehabbing. He had a I think a stress fracture
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: in his foot and also dealt with elbow issues throughout
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: high school. So like maybe he's actually finding it, finding
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: some health and so like that has been what it's
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: been holding him back as he's been developing. That he
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: was a what round did he go in? I can't
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: find him right now, just stalling while my internet loads
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: and I type in he might have been a non
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: draft signy. So that is going to be an intriguing
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: profile I think going forward for Josh Stephan, and we
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: will keep an eye on him. But let's get into
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: those bats we were alluding to, because I think we've
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: got a mix of like kind of guys we've known
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: for a while, guys who are I think are breaking out,
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: and guys who are at the top of prospect lifts,
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: and some who are towards the bottom. So I'm especially
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: looking at just like total bases here. That's how I
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: sorted and found a lot of these players finding great
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: performances and then also looking kind of like age to
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: level to make sure that you know they have some
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: prospect runway still within them. And so the first player
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: that really has stowed out for me is catcher first
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: spacemen for the Detroit Tigers, Poseu Brisigno. Brisigno. This is
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: one of the difficult parts of talking about deep prospect
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: players and uh, you're doing it before Baseball Reference has
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: their pronunciation on there. But Brisigno is down in a
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: ball for the Tigers, was nineteen there all year, so
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: below level, had a pretty solid year overall, but it's
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: broken out here as we've gotten into the Arizona Fall League.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: He's popped seven homers with sixteen rbi, slashing four forty six,
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: four ninety two, nine to eleven in his sixty three
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: at bats. Is one of the younger players down there.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: And so what do you see in this this profile
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: for Brisigho and what do you think that it could
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: mean for him going forward for his future in Detroit.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he fits into that one of those
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: categories we talked about earlier of being young and going
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: up against some stronger competition because He is just just
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: barely over twenty years old. He's only played at a
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: ball and he's he's done decent. I wouldn't say outstanding,
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: he's done decent this this year in a ball he
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: had forty games, he had a whole two homers, hit
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: two seventy eight, on base three eighty three. He actually
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: does has a pretty patient played approach. So what's interesting
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: to see him showing off the power of the Fall
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: League here. I think that's what's exciting is it could
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: show that there's a little bit more to him, and
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: I do like that he's again doing it against maybe
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: some stronger competition. It is small sample size. I think
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: we we always have to own that with the Fall
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: League here, but seeing a guy that is definitely a
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: little bit further down the depth charts in the minors,
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: Definitely some of his you know, prospects reports and his
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: development says that he has a low long way to go,
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: and he's kind of given indication maybe he's a little
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: bit further along than what folks think and he can
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: be pushed up the ladder a little bit faster next
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: year for the Tigers. So I think it's very interesting
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: to see what he's doing and is he going to
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: end up being, you know, a catcher. Is he gonna
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: end up being a first base in her DH? I
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: think the jury's still still out there, but he's definitely
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: looked really, really good this fall, probably some of the
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: best numbers in in the Fall League, and doing that
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: at just twenty years old, when you know they're I
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: don't know the average league of the Fall League, but
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: at average age of the Fall League, but I have
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: to assume it's in the twenty three to twenty four range.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: And so being you know, three to four years younger
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: than everybody and showing off this way, it's it definitely
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: puts puts folks on notice. So how about you are
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: what are you seeing here? Is is he flying up
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: your dynasty rankings? By chance?
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't sa flying, but he's certainly moving up that
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: like he My interest is piqued by what Brissino has
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: brought for the Tigers in the years in a fall league,
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: and I mean lots of people were focusing more on
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: Tyron Grizano, his teammate that came over in the Jack
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: Flerty trade when the Tigers sold at the deadline, that
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: he was you know, the number two kind of best
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: prospect from the catching perspective in the Detroit system behind
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: the Ronzo, and so that will be interesting to see
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: if they foot flop now because Bristino is two years younger,
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: and I mean there's a possibility that, like if he
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: has really broken out here and has found something an
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: extra level. He's walked a lot when he's been in
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: the minors, so that's great to see that he has
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: a good eye, hasn't struck out a ton, so if
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: he's finding a little bit of a power stroke again
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: given that it is Phoenix and all those cavit but
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: he has looked really good by all the reports that
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: have come back to so you're looking in the Tigers.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: This is where they're actually weak at the major league
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: level too, at like first base catcher dhi ish area
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: where both Lorenzo and Brasino could be coming through. So
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: like there's certainly the pathway to playing time in Detroit.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: And so because of that, Brassino is certainly moving up
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: my rankings a little bit more than I think I
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: maybe would give other players as they've broken out in
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: this ball league.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I think so he's probably one of
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: the biggest names or biggest standouts in the Fall so far.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, we're gonna look at another catcher here, as
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: it's been just like a really catcher happy offensive breakout
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: in the Fall League. As that, we're looking at Moysi's
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Biasteros for the Chicago Cubs, a twenty year old who
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: has put up a line of three seventy three, four
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: oh four seven twenty six. I should also add, yeah,
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: Brissino is by far the highest lugger at that nine
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: to eleven slug as Biasteros is also up there. He
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: has five homers and fourteen RBI. Now Bias Sairos has
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: a little more pospect pedigree to him. In the Fangrafts
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: rankings for the Cubs list, he came in at a
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: fifty grade and that put him at eighth overall on
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: the list of a very deep team that is a
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: very deep system. So what are you seeing here in
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: Biasteros Biosteris' performance in the Fall League and how it's
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: kind of captus whole twenty twenty four and what do
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: you see going forward for bias Steros.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think there's probably a few things
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: of interest here. First of all, from a you know,
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: pure hitting perspective.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: You know, he's he's spent.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: You know, over half the season this year at Triple
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: A across two levels. He poked nineteen homers, which is
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: much more than what he can had kind of showed
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: in the past. So it seems like the power is
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: truly coming through, and he did overall kind of keep
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: the strikeouts under control, and they seemed to be wanting.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: The second thing is he seemed to be wanting to
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: try him at you know, that catcher position. He had
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: been trading between i think first base and catcher a
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: little bit this season and also a lot of d
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: H and it looks like they want to try to see, hey,
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: is he going to play into that catcher conversation in Chicago.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: So I think, you know, the power kind of coming
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: through kind of just reinforces that he really is maturing.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: Is that kind of one of those power hitters, And
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: that's really great, great news for the Cubs. And so
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: I think he's one of the few guys on our
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: list here is definitely gonna be in the conversation for
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: potentially making an opening day roster next year. And you know,
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: you know, he's not too terribly interesting honestly as the
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: first baseman. But if he's a catcher, he's come a
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: lot more interesting if he is showing up with twenty
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: twenty five home or power and kind of you know,
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: middling batting average, let's say, probably not a whole lot
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: of speed to write home about. When I say a
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: whole lot of speed, probably none. And so he is
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: very intriguing from the perspective that they do seem to
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: be committed to him as a catcher, and there's probably
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: a path to playing time for him if he can
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: show that this is really who he is versus just
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: a hot, hot fall league. And I think twenty twenty
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: four said that, yeah, he's got to these amount of potential.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: So but I say that you are the resident of chicagoan,
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: so tell me tell me that I don't know my
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: Moses Ballistas.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: No, I mean, I think you nailed it. This is
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: another team just like Detroit with the Cubs, that they
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: have openings at DH, first base and catcher right now.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, obviously the Cody Bellinger of it all is
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: going to play in here a little bit. But you know,
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: Saya Suzuki was dhing a lot down the stretch and
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: could be moved back into the field. Michael bush Is,
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's kind of more of a
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: tween year player. And Miguel Maya did not take hold
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: of that catching job in Chicago, so Bias Teros especially,
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: this is a Cubs team that could overtake the division
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: pretty easily with a couple of pitching moves. And if
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: you're trying to catch lightning in a bottle and Biosteris
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: is your best catcher out of camp, Yeah, he could
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: break camp. And he's definitely debuting next year no matter what.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: He's got a Rule five eligibility, I think in December,
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: and so I think given that he reached triple A
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: this year, held his own in triple A while being
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: like six years younger than the level on average, that
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: I think you're looking at, you know, your gut to
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: talk about like Samuel Bissio and then Biased Zaros right
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: next to him. In terms of dynasty catchers who haven't
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: debuted yet. I mean, if you're looking h to level,
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: I think you've even got to be considering by the
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: stereos over Sawas at this point, over Ethan Salas just
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: because of like who knows how many much more seasoning
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: Solace will need. But bias Terios is on the precipice
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: of making the Chicago Cubs roster and being I think
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: a pretty good bat at catcher. Even I think he's
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: gonna stick at catcher. He's not the best defensive catcher,
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: but he's five to eight, one ninety five. I don't
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: think that's going to play too well at first base.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: And even if he, like something happens and he just
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: can't catch, like, you can worry about that in twenty
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: twenty six, because he's going to qualify at catcher in
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, He's one of the few here that I think
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: if you're have off season potential to grab somebody, you
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: would probably be worth taking a flyer up.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: Yes, I totally agree. Okay, next guy that we have
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: is somebody who's been around for a long time now
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: in our collective kind of thoughts of like, you know,
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: baseball players and the prospects at large, and that is
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: Robert Hassel the third who is breaking out here a
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: little bit in the Fall League, has been studying himself,
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: slashing two eighty six, three sixty five, five eighteen the strikeouts,
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: have been looking pretty relatively good twelve strikeouts to six
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: walks in his sixty three played appearances as pop two
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: homers driven in thirteen and this comes off of a
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: I would say a tough year for Robert Hassel in
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: terms of he only hit five homers across his three
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: minor league levels, and those are all in double A.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: He's twenty two years old. He is just kind of
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: like running out of runway in terms of being a
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: prospect much longer. The reports have all been kind of
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: down on his power as he's kind of become more
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: of a hit only kind of tool. I think he's
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: got a glove too, so he will be able to
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: stick from a glove perspective. But this was a guy
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: who went in the twenty twenty first round, eighth overall
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: pick to the Padres, was involved in the Wan Soto
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: trade and was really a key piece of that and
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: looks like he might be forming into like Clint Frazier
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: in front of us. But does this fall league performance
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: give you hope that Hassel could turn into something useful
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: for a fantasy baseball in twenty twenty five.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is probably one of the hardest players to
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: kind of make out here. As you look at the
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: Fall League here, because Hassel has pedigree, he was an
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: eighth overall pick. You know, he's already made his living
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: signs for four point three million, so he's doing just
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: fine from that perspective. But you're right, he really has
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: not lived up to that building. But yet they're still
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: kind of pushing him through the miners. They're not going
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: easy on him. They pushed him all the way to
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: Triple A this year, and you know, he kind of
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: struggled when he got there. But he also makes me
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: think of one of those players that might just like
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: be needs to be challenged over and over and over
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: again and will kind of grow into it at the
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: major league level. And so I've still got a little
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: outside hope for Hassle. Am I investing in him? No,
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: But do I think this gives the glimpse of like
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: there definitely is talent there. You know, as we talked
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: about a lot of these other players playing against greater talent,
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: Hassle is probably doing the opposite. So you have to
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: remember he's probably beating up on guys that are single
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: A and double A hit pitchers versus kind of the
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: the triple as that he should be facing or even
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: trying to get some major league at baths. So I got,
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: like I said, he's on my watch list. I think
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: there again, with the pedigree he has there, you can't
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: really write him off for any reason at this point.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: But he's not the guind of, He's not the prospect
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: he once was. It's not like, you know, he's going
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: to be the guy that you're hold on dynastathes. Honestly,
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: if somebody sees this as a potential that they need
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: to grab him, I'm probably letting them at this point
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: in time. But it gives you some outside hope that
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: that talent does show through. I just don't think it's
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: gonna like he's gonna burst on the scenes when he
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: makes it up to Washington. He's one of those guys
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: that may take two three years before he really finds
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: his footing. And he's an interesting, you know, back of
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: the end of the lineup outfielder for you in fantasy
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: perspectives at the peak.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I agree that, Like I think it depends
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: on like kind of what your priors were here. I'm
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: Robert Hassele too that, Like I was totally out on
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: Robert Hassele and maybe like this fall league is giving
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: me a little hope that he can actually be useful
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: that like, you know, I would be adding him to
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: the back of a dynasty roster or towards the end
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: of a drafting hold, where I wasn't counting on that
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: at all coming into this fall league performance. It's just
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: been real tough. And what kind of reminds me of
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: is almost like a like a left handed Lane Thomas,
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: where I do think that Hassel has lots of good
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: tools and the defense and speed that he flashes can
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: keep him around for a long time, and then he
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: can learn to develop to hit a little bit. But certainly,
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: like if you've also been holding him and been looking
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: for some point where that needle can kind of tick
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: back up to a little bit of value in a
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: dynasty league, this is now, and so certainly capitalize it
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: why you can. But I don't think he's going to
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: ever really be much more than kind of a fourth
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: fifth outfielder kind of player in pretty deep fantasy leagues.
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: So yeah, great to see that he's doing something, but
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to put too many eggs in that basket. Okay,
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: next player, we have actually funny that We mentioned Michael
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: Bush because this was one of the players that went
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: back from the Cubs to the Dodgers, and it looks
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: like the Dodgers fleas the Cubs here because I year
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: Hope has been If there's one player that I think
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: you need to start other than Biasteros, it's probably Zayer
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: Hope here, who is rounding out a great twenty twenty
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: four when he reached a ball as a nineteen year
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: old put up a one forty four WRC plus over
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: fifty four games there. This is kind of your traditional
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: really tools they player where the hit tool is going
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: to struggle. Like it's reminds me of a lot like
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: a Jose Siri or early Audolis Garcia, where like, I
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: don't know if he's gonna be able to make enough
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: contact to be like an upper end, upper echelon fantasy player,
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: but he could, like we've seen players like Elie de
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: la Cruz kind of be able to finish off their
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: game in the minors, and Hope is having a fantastic
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: fall league in which he's hitting two sixty four, three, ten, five,
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: twenty eight with three homers seventeen bombs. And this has
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: been the one guy that any scouting report that's been
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: coming back from the Fall League has been very glowing
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: about Zayer Hope. So I think you can tell that
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: I'm getting a little bit excited about him. Are you
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: here to temper that excitement or are you also putting
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: this guy on kind of like the in terms of
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: like upper end echelon outcomes. I think this has got
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: to be one of your prospects to put that kind
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: of star next to him on your on your watch list.
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a tough one for me, and it
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: has everything to do with the organization he's in and
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: not the player that he is. And you know, I've
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: started to really shy away from Dodgers prospects just because
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: of the team that they've developed in how much pressure
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: they put themselves to deliver that they is really made
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: it hard for their prospects to find their footing and
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: break in the door at the major league level. And so,
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: you know, the Dodgers, they're they're in it for the
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: next you know, five to seven years, Like they've got
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: all these guys signed for to like twenty thirty. There,
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: they're fully in. Doesn't mean there's not gonna be spots
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: and opportunities but for a guy to kind of cut
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: their teeth, especially a young guy coming through, that is
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: going to I just have to think, with his profile
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: be somewhat streaky, he's going to be absolutely unbelievable. And
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: I love your La Dela Cruz comple like, I think
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: he's gonna be absolutely unbelievable sometimes and absolutely dreadful other
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: times with that hit tool. So I'm I'm throwing a
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: little bit of cold water on it. And I think
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: it's mainly just because the organization that he's the opportunities
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: are not going to come as easy and when things
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: aren't going as well, they're gonna they're gonna move on quickly. Uh,
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: They're gonna send them back to the minors because they
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: they have things that they need to do, they need
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: to win ball games. They don't have time to develop somebody.
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: So there's my cold water. And it doesn't mean that
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: I don't like him as a prospect, doesn't mean he
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: doesn't have all the potential in the world. I just
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: don't really love the situation. But you know, there's one
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: thing that can change that, and that's performance. So if
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: he can keep doing what he can do, and if
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: it really for me is like, if he can really
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: improve that hit tool, then that then he gets really
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: really interesting.
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean I think you could tell from
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: my background there I am, I think a little more excited,
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: more hopeful on hope than you are. But part of
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: it is like, yeah, he is nineteen. He doesn't need
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: a Rule five kind of designation until twenty twenty seven,
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: so he's got a couple more years here to cook
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: for the Dodgers as well as Like, I think the
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: Dodgers are good talent evaluators as an organization, and I
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: think it's pretty telling that they plucked him away from
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: the Cubs and that Michael Bush deal and just kind
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: of let him fly down in Double A in a
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: nineteen year old that Yeah, it's certainly somebody where I
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: think if you're looking for somebody with lots of helium,
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: this is your guy. I think he's going to be
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: kind of entering into the prospect conversations a lot over
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: the offseason because of this per formance and getting on
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: people's radars for the first time. And so if you
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: can jump and you know that you're in a league
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: where hype really helps you bring back good trades, this
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: is a great guy. To add, I think, and then
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: kind of watch going into next year. I'm not going
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: to be pegging him for like a key Dynasty piece
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: until I see a little more performance as he moves
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: into like double A. Okay, well let's go on to
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: We've got three more hitters left, and the next one
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: we've got is Trey Morgan, first baseman from the Tampa
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: Bay Rays, who has hit three seventy eight, four thirty four,
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: six twenty two over fifty three at bats, which just
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: one homer thirteen RBIs but kind of like a James
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: Loney mold, very great plate discipline, six strikeouts to just
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: five walks, and I wanted to bring them up because
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: this hasn't been necessarily like too hot of a prospect
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: as he's been coming through through the Ray system. He
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: was a fantastic corner outfielder and first baseman for the
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: LSU Tigers that you might remember during the Dylan Cruz
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: Paul Skeen's team, like he made an insane catch out
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: in left field during that College World Series. That Trey
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: Morgan has been just like always destined. I think to
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: make a roster, it's just kind of like high floor.
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: But we didn't think he really had much of a
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: ceiling as he's been coming through the system, also been
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: battling with Xavier Isaac. But this is a guy where
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: some of the reports coming back from the AFL have
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: been really glowing about his approach and people from a
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: talent evaluation perspective have been impressed by what they've seen
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: from Trey Morgan. So is this performance putting him kind
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: of on your radar going into twenty twenty five when
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: you should be starting at double A and sniffing triple
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: A in the majors by the end of the year.
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it definitely put him on the radar.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: I think your you're comp to James Loney's. I think
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: the concern UH for for his profile is that, you know,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: it does to have enough to be a first baseman
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: that does more than steal a few bags and poke
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: a few homers. I I do wonder if the ceiling
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: is that high, But he seems to keep exceeding expectations,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: and I think that's that's what is intriguing about him
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: and being in probably one of the best systems for
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: player development UH and they've they've pushed him pretty quick
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: through that system. They're basically said, show it to me,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: Let's try it again. Show it to me, Let's try
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: it again, and they he's He's made.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: I can't remember how.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: Many stops it was, with something like five, five stops
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: or four stops already between the complex uh, single A,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: high A and double A as he's been going through
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: in just the last year and a half. So I
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: think he's really interesting. I do think, you know, he's
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: probably a better real world ballplayer than a fantasy player,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: and so I'm probably not gonna be buying a whole
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: lot of shares, but it's there's something to be said
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: for a guy that always exceeds expectations. Just keep in
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: mind he does tend to put the ball on the
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: on the ground half the time, and that will absolutely
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: cap what his production ends up being, regardless of how
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: good of a hitter he truly is.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty I think it is James on a two
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: point zero, So there is that factor. But I do
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: think that like this performance has moved Morgan like to
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: an afterthought to somebody who Yeah, I am like, if
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: I'm looking for some glimmer of upside for a first
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: baseman going forward, I think he's a decent shot because
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: he is also going to steal basis. He's got speed.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: He's also just like a defensive stalwart. So he's gonna
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: make the majors in some capacity for the Rays over
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: the next couple of years. And if he can get
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: on the field with the defense, stick on the field
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: with the defense. It's one of those players where it
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: becomes intriguing because maybe the bat can come around. But
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: you you did kind of call it out there too,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: like if he if he's got the ground ball heavy approach,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna get too much of him
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: from him fantasy wise, but maybe that this approach that
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: he's kind of tweaked in the Fall League, he can
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: carry into twenty twenty five and might be talking about
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: Trey Morgan as you know, somebody we might be looking
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: at four corners and maybe even twelve teamers, but like
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: certainly somebody to keep an eye on. Okay, Well, next
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: player we have is somebody we covered over the fall
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: when he got called up and is near and dear
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: to us as a Cardinals prospect. And this is Thomas
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: the Gacy, who has really looks fantastic here in the
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: AFL after making it to the majors here in twenty
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: twenty four, he has slashed four nineteen five sixty one
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: six point twenty eight over fifty seven played appearances, with
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: two homer's nine RBIs, stolen a couple of bases too,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: and walked more than he struck out so far. So
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: Sagace looks like he could be just taking hold of
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: that first base job in Saint Louis maybe next year
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: going into the season, maybe even third base, because it
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: does sound like Nolan Arnano's his way out of town.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: But what is really kind of like intrigued you the
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: most from Sagasi's performance here in the AFL and what
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: he can carry into twenty twenty five.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think the perfect cop for JC
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: here is Brendan Donovan, who's also on the Cardinals. Like
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: there is multipositional eligibility abound here. He's played pretty much
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: every position in the infield.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: He's not really.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: Short stop, but he's played first, he's played second, he's
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: played third, and he is one of those guys that's
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: gonna have a I say, league average average if you
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: can say that he's going to have just above average power.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: He's gonna steal a few bases, he's going to hit
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: the top of the lineup. He's going to be just
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: above average valuable. And then with that positional flexibility, I
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: think it's interesting, and your point being the good one,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: is that he's got one of the clearest paths to
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: playing time of probably anybody that we're talking about here,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: because the Cardinals have done everything to signal that they
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: are rebuilding, they are, you know, kicking it in for
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. And this is the kind of guy
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: And that's why you know he got called up and
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: that's why he's in the Fall League, is that they
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: are rooming him to be ready to take a full
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: time role in twenty five. And I think that he
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: will have a long leash to make it happen. And
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: you know, he's had a few bumps along the way
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: in the miners, but he's figured things out pretty quickly
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: everywhere he's been and been a pretty valuable player. So
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: I think there's a shot in the dark for a
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: guy like so Jase here towards end of drafts next
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: year that you could be kind of happy with as
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: a bench player that might be able to produce a
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: little bit more. Again, like a Brendan Donovan. So how
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: am I Compson using Cardinals to comp Cardinals there, Yes,
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: that's always a fun way to do it.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think you're in the right realm.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: I think maybe the tweak from from Donovan to Segacy
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: is that Segasey's a little more power and a less contact.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: So that's kind of if you're thinking of somebody to
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: comp him to. I think it's a little tough because
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: he's also right handed. Usually this profile comes as a
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: left handed player. But I'm penciling in like a player
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: who he's going to qualify a second and third second
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: and shortstop going to next year in all leagues. I
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: think should have third base eligibility in a lot of leagues.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: Two should pick up first base during twenty twenty five.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: But you're looking at somebody who can be that infield
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: utility man for your fantasy roster and put up something
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: like eighteen to twenty homers and hit somewhere around like
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: two fifty and you know, while hitting in the middle
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: of the order for the Saint Louis Cardinals, so you know,
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: seventy five ish runs an RBI a piece somewhere in
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: that range. That like, yeah, I think because of that eligibility,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: when you can use him to paper over roster ills
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: that you might have, or if you again, if you're
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: looking for somebody for a draft and hold situation that
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: has those eligibilities. So Gacy, he's shown me a lot
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: of things here in the AFL that I think just
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: kind of rounds out what was a pretty solid twenty
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: twenty four for him, Like the WRC pluses weren't great,
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: but he put up twenty homers and nine so on
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: bases down at Triple A while biding his time, and
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: it does look like it's all systems go into twenty
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: twenty five for Segacy.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we will buckle up and see what happens.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, well we've got one more guy here who
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: is another first basement corner. We've found a lot of these.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: I guess that also kind of makes sense that they
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: get sent to the Arizona Fall League to work on
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: just kind of stay in fresh and stay in in shape,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: especially for somebody like Nico Cavadas, first base DH for
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Angels, who got playing time this year,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: and I advocated a lot for his playing time even
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: when he was in the Boston system. So he got
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: traded over when the Angels traded Luis Garcia, not Thatli
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: Garcia and not that Louis Garcia over to the Red
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: Sox at the deadline, and he played down the stretch
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: for LA looks kind of lost though, with a thirty
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: eight point seven percent strikeout rate. It was a seventy
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: seven WRC plus, but the power is legit. Cavadas is
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: twenty six, very Greek, and he should have a very
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: great playing time situation with the Angels just because they
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: are the Angels. I mean, they've said they're gonna try
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: to like bring players in, but somehow players like always
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: seemed to rise to the top of that lineup when
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: it's all said and done, should have plenty of chances
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: at first base in DH. I guess I should also
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: say what he's actually done in the Fall League to
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: make him stand out compared to that rough strikeout rate
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: that we're talking about. So he's put up a three
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: twenty four four ninety seven thirty five slug with four
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: homers and ten RBIs over forty nine plenty appearances, seventeen
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: k's to twelve walks, So that's good for I mean, honestly,
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: he hasn't cut that strikeout rate much from his major
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: league example. So what stands out for you here in
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: Cavatis's profile, Yeah.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: I think it's a This is one of those interesting
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: players that depends the league you're in, is how once
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: you should be interested in in ECO here, And it
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: really comes down to he he is a walk machine.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: He is Kevin Euclus reincarnated. He walks a heck of
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: a lot of times. You can also say cav On
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: Bigio reincarnated. I'm not sure that either of those is
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: a really fair comp here. But he does strike out
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: way too much, but he does walk a heck of
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: a lot. Even in his kind of short stint in
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: the majors this year, where he's only gotten thirty games
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: where he struck out thirty nine percent of the time,
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: he still has an OBP of two eighty three, which
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: was one hundred points better than his average, And so
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: you know, he he's a guy that historically has been
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: in on base at a three eighty to four hundred
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: clip and that's valuable in OBP league. And uh, there
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: is definitely some good power to boot. So the question
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: for him is can he control those strikeouts and will
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: he be in a platoon. I think those are the questions.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: But he has a lot of value in a certain
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: league setup if you're playing at OBP. That's that's why
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: I find him really interested in the Fall League. And
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: I'm not terribly excited with him in a you know,
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: a five by five without but maybe maybe he can
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  Speaker 2: he can start to scratch the service if he gets
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  Speaker 2: full playing time next year and somehow finds out how
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  Speaker 2: to hit lefties.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean I think what Cavatis is also
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  Speaker 1: kind of in is I know we covered this a
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  Speaker 1: little bit at the end of the season with the
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  Speaker 1: crazy year that Brent Rooker had, but like looking for
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  Speaker 1: some of those those skills that Rooker showed throughout his
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  Speaker 1: time in the miners, which was huge power, but also
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  Speaker 1: struggled with strikeouts and especially like laying off off speed
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  Speaker 1: and just kind of like controlling the zone and being
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  Speaker 1: able to get the pitch that they wanted. That if
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  Speaker 1: you're looking for somebody to I think throw into that
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  Speaker 1: bucket of like here's some of the skill like hallmarks
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  Speaker 1: and profiles that we're looking at that Brent Rooker was
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  Speaker 1: able to capitalize and take to fruition and put up
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  Speaker 1: his crazy season. I think Cavadis is kind of in
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  Speaker 1: that type of bucket where you're looking at somebody who
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  Speaker 1: has been bouncing around like Triple A and the Majors
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  Speaker 1: and strikes out too much, has unreal power and just
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  Speaker 1: decent playing time situation. Because, yeah, Rooker, when he was
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  Speaker 1: twenty six, same age as Cavadas was this year, put
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  Speaker 1: up a thirty two point nine percent strikeout rate, only
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  Speaker 1: hit two a one in his stent there over fifty
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  Speaker 1: eight games. So there is still a development path for
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  Speaker 1: Cavadis going forward here. Yeah, you're absolutely right.
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  Speaker 2: It's like if he figures out the strikeouts here, things
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  Speaker 2: get really interesting on this And I think that's that's
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  Speaker 2: what you're watching for. Seems that the Fall League that
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  Speaker 2: he's he's kind of, you know, holding his own there.
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  Speaker 2: He's still striking out like a decent, decent clip, but
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  Speaker 2: it's not in the nearly forty percent that it was
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  Speaker 2: in the majors. So at the same time, you have
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  Speaker 2: remember he's twenty six in the Fall League and so
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  Speaker 2: he is going to be beating up on some of
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  Speaker 2: that younger competition.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, Okay, Well that gives us a pretty good
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  Speaker 1: summary of you know, some of the standouts here for
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  Speaker 1: the aff. Well, I'm looking forward to flying out to
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  Speaker 1: Phoenix tomorrow. It's going to be a blast of a
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  Speaker 1: weekend nerding out over Fantasy baseball and all these prospects
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  Speaker 1: and so yeah, I think we've given you some good
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  Speaker 1: names to dig into. And as we've been speaking, we
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  Speaker 1: cursed the heck out of the Yankees. It's a tie
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  Speaker 1: ball game now, so I'm pumped to go watch the
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  Speaker 1: rest of this game. It looks like it's going to
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  Speaker 1: be another classic and see how this one sorts out
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  Speaker 1: between LA and New York in Game five. But brew
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  Speaker 2: We are in the off season right now, so we'll
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  Speaker 2: be back here probably the beginning of next year, getting
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  Speaker 2: in Blue Sky if I recall.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they sure can. It's been it's still taken off
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