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- John Adams: As a kid and or your your grandkids, they draw a picture of Emily's horse and it probably looks Like a blob. And you go, that is so amazing. Look at that amazing horse, right? But as an adult, we go, I can't draw a horse, so I'm not gonna draw a horse, Welcome back to another week of the Health Tech and Wellness Podcast. I'm John Adams. Crystal Nevedale: And Chris will never deal. John Adams: And I just have a serious question for everybody today. Are we having fun anymore? And when I say that, I don't mean are you having fun doing things, but seriously, think about where you were as a kid, right? You rode your bike because it was fun, not because you needed to get in the miles. You went and walked. To your friend's house because it was fun, not because you needed the steps. You played a game because it was fun. You drew something because it was fun, right? Maybe you built Legos or you played outside or you listened to your favorite music. Whatever your thing was, and nobody asked, What's the benefit from it, right? Maybe your parents, because they got tired of seeing you, you know, doing something stupid, might have said, What are you getting out of that? But nobody cared, right? Your friends didn't care. You didn't care. Whatever it was, you didn't care. You didn't even care if you got better at it. You didn't track it. You didn't even think about Any of that stuff, right? You weren't posting about it. We didn't have social media. You weren't building a business around it or trying to make money out of it. Maybe, okay, maybe you had a little lemonade stand in the front yard, but that was just you had more fun doing it. You didn't you didn't even think about the money part of it. And then along the way, we became adults. And apparently now everything has purpose, right? So today we kind of want to just talk about some of the things that we probably don't talk enough about anymore. We always, especially here on this episode, we're talking about our mental health and our physical health and trying to be balanced, but when did we actually stop having fun? Right. Are we actually building our lives that we enjoy living? So, Crystal, what did you love doing when you were a kid? For absolutely no reason other than just the fun of it. Did you have something? Crystal Nevedale: when I was a kid, probably we used to dig up worms. We used to to go fishing. 'Cause you know, I had all the uncles, all my you know, my mom's brothers. So I was like the only girl. John Adams: Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Crystal Nevedale: So we would dig up worms to go fishing down at the end of the street at the beach. That was like our thing. Or we would yeah. Yeah. John Adams: Did you enjoy did you enjoy digging them up though? Okay, that's cool. Yeah. Crystal Nevedale: Like we had so my grandma had like a rock garden around all the bushes. So we would go over there and flip all up and look for the worms. John Adams: Yep. Yep. Crystal Nevedale: Like it w it was just like a thing we did. Yeah. John Adams: Yeah, looking for nightcrawlers. That was always fun. So, Crystal Nevedale: Yeah. Yeah. John Adams: I mean, as a kid, I mean, we I'd sit outside in the dirt making tunnels for my G.I. Joe's just because, right? You know, we didn't have the video games. We didn't have any of that stuff. And it was fun, right? Mom and dad would say, Go outside and come back in when it gets dark. Or wouldn't I call you for dinner? Go outside, right? So let's stay here kind of for a minute, right? Because what I want kind of us to think about what fun actually looks like before everything became so complicated. In last episode, we talked about how we're always busy. So we kind of want to just discuss being a kid again. We want to go back to the Wayback Machine, right? And talk about riding our bikes, you know. Maybe you know you're not as old as I am, and you grew up with video games. We did kind of, you know, we went Atari and then I think the first Nintendo Crystal Nevedale: Did I know? John Adams: or whatever. Yeah. So we had a little bit of it, but a lot of our stuff came with just hanging out with friends, right? It was a lot more communal. So, whatever that stupid game was that you invented because we were bored or we just wanted something to do, things that we could do for hours without even thinking. Thinking about what time it was, right? So, what happened to those things? Did we grow out of them? I mean, yes, we don't want to be the adult sitting in the dirt, right? Somebody might commit us. But at the end of the day, did life just get in our way of our fun, right? Or do we actually did we decide somewhere along the line that yeah, we're adults now and we can't have fun anymore? So that's kind of what we want to get into, right? so Crystal, I know you guys go and she's, you know, Emily does the shooting and stuff, but is there something that you guys do kind of you don't care if you're good at it? You don't care like here, I'm gonna give you an example when I say you don't care if you're good at it. As a kid and or your your grandkids, they draw a picture of Emily's horse and it probably looks Like a blob. And you go, that is so amazing. Look at that amazing horse, right? But as an adult, we go, I can't draw a horse, so I'm not gonna draw a horse, right? So what are some things that you guys do, whether you're good at it or not, that you just have fun? Crystal Nevedale: I hate to say it this way, but she's good at every damn thing. There ain't one thing that she's not good at. It's disgusting, actually. It's disgusting. No, but bowling. John Adams: my god. Crystal Nevedale: Neither of us are like great at it, but we have so much fun doing it. Like we did it with friends. And then something new that we've only done once that we really loved, but neither of us was good at that we'll do again is that shuffle board. I've never played shuffle. It's so fun. so that's John Adams: yeah. It's so fun, yeah. Crystal Nevedale: something that we're learning. and then one thing that I like to do that I'm not good at is golfing. I love to golf, but I don't know how to golf, but I love it. John Adams: So we're gonna have to go then to what's that one that they just built in Avon? Crystal Nevedale: yeah, the big gosh, what is that called? Cop golf. Yeah, that's fun. I love going John Adams: golf. Top golf. Yeah. Crystal Nevedale: there. John Adams: Yeah. So we'll have to go there. Cause that's yeah. So I'm the same way. I I don't know how to golf. Well, I take it back. I is when I was younger I I golf. I was never great at it, but now I couldn't swing like for distance at all because my elbow. so maybe we'll go there and do that. But I'm the same way. Okay. Uh-huh. Crystal Nevedale: So I'm left handed. I'm left handed and I've never used left handed clubs ever in my life. I wouldn't even know how to use them. I've only done right handed. Isn't that weird? John Adams: No, because that's how you were taught. Yeah. Crystal Nevedale: Years ago Yeah. Years ago the first time I ever did it was with right handed and that's just what I've done always. But I loved golfing. It's I don't know if it's just the walking around and and making not being good at it and chasing that damn old white ball. I love it. John Adams: It I guess it depends on who's playing behind you because it could be the people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A cold day, yeah, exactly. Crystal Nevedale: Yeah, you gotta go to places that aren't real popular so that there's nobody behind you. Or go on a really cold day. John Adams: but yeah, same way, you know, Cindy is well used to be, we haven't golfed in, or I mean bowled in forever, but she used to be an amazing bowler on every league in the world. And then, you know, we started dating and we got on a mixed couple league, and I was definitely the handicap. I suck. But we had a blast, right? And that's the thing, right? So when did we lose that? When did we stop being that way? You know, we we find something to enjoy doing, and then somebody immediately says, you know, you probably could do like make money at that, right? So I'll give you an example. I enjoy the crap out of what we're doing today, right? And somehow I turned it into a business and now I help other people do that, right? you enjoy building things, you're artistic, and you guess what? You turned it into a business. So when why is that? I think you know, at the end of the day, okay, is it a bad thing? No, you know, we're making a living out of something we enjoy. But why does everything that we enjoy have to become a side hustle? You know, you're great at making cakes. Man, you really should open up a bakery. you know what? You can make a lot of those little cool trinkets with your hands. You should, you know, start on Etsy or get a shop in the middle of Vermillion, right? So When did we take the things that we love and turn it into work? You know, I used to hear all the time the moment you take something that you love and turn it into your job, y you lose love with it, right? I think you still love what you're doing. I'm still new in mind and I love what I'm doing. Crystal Nevedale: Yeah. John Adams: But I think that's the other thing is. Crystal Nevedale: I think that's a misconception. I think we should talk about that for a second. I I think that's John Adams: Okay, yeah, yeah, dig in. Challenge me. Crystal Nevedale: a misconception. I think that people think that you won't love it anymore. And I think that's that's like we're conditioned to think that we can't do what we love doing because we'll get sick of it. I'm the first one to tell you. I've been doing this for 14 years and I love it more today than I did when I started it. But I think that I've heard that so many times that people say that I don't think it's true. John Adams: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Crystal Nevedale: I think it's that that's that's keeps them safe. That's fear speaking and saying, John Adams: Yeah. Crystal Nevedale: if I do this I won't love it anymore. I think that's fear. That's just my thoughts because I love, love, John Adams: No, Crystal Nevedale: love what I do. John Adams: I think that you've hit something on the head there. And I think I can tell you maybe where this comes from. So I'll give you an example. My neighbor across the street, Caddy Corner from me, he paints for a living, puts up drywall for a living. But yet his paint in his home is not what he would do, if that makes sense, right? So I asked him one day. I said, I said, Man, you paint for a living. I said, you know. Why why don't you paint that? And he's like, I do that all damn day. I don't want to do it when I get home. But here's the thing it's not something he enjoys, it's something he does. That's the difference. If he enjoyed Crystal Nevedale: Yeah. John Adams: painting and became a painter, I think it would be different. Crystal Nevedale: Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah. It's definitely about loving it and I don't think that the people that are fearful that don't want to do it because they're afraid they won't love it, I don't think it'll happen. I think they'll realize that wow, I just love it more. there's more to it. Like it's creating your craft and understanding what like you're building. Yours is completely different than mine, but you're starting to learn, you know, a at in the beginning you want to do X, Y, and Z and now you realize it's the whole alphabet of things that you can do. And once you realize that, like the love for it just deepens and deepens and deepens. You're like, Okay, I could do this, I could do that and it's it's fun. It's kinda what lights my life up, you know? John Adams: Hundred percent. Yeah. Crystal Nevedale: I think more people need to go with that gut when they love something. John Adams: Yeah, I think that you're right. And that's the thing that, you know, with with mine, we'll just say in my example, you know, I'm I'm building, but and you could you could echo off of this because I'm sure you've experienced it. Because you love it, you're finding new things with it, right? You're constantly, you're growing with it because it is something you love, right? It's like playing a guitar. If you enjoy playing guitar and you become a guitarist. in a band, right? You're gonna learn more riffs. You're gonna you're you're gonna grow more. If you have a job that you truly hate going to, you're great at it. You're amazing at it, but you just dread it every morning. And then you get there. And then you come home and you gotta do it at home. You're not gonna paint the wall, right? You know what I mean? So one hundred percent I think that you've you've nailed something right there. Why do we have to say, you can't monetize it? Again, the people that truly love what they were doing. If it's a hobby that you may you're just doing it to fill time, you might find quickly that you hated it once you turn it into a job. But if it's something you truly love, one hundred percent. I think you hit that right on the head. Crystal Nevedale: And I've run into that a lot in my shop. When people come in, they'll be like amazed that I can raise my family on this, that I that this is my John Adams: Mm-hmm. Crystal Nevedale: life and that I'm able to do the things that I do. And they'll tell me about their child. It'll be someone like in their sixties or seventies and they'll say how their child has this gift or this gift or this gift and they just wish they could make money at it. And I look at them and I go, They definitely can. Like it's just you have to want to do that. You have to not listen to the people who are saying that you can't accomplish it. John Adams: Yeah. Crystal Nevedale: Because I experienced that myself. When I decided to do this, there were many people in my life that said, Have you lost your mind? You're gonna give up a job that you are for sure getting paid for for not knowing if you're gonna make a dollar. So it's it really is like believing in yourself and believing in your craft. If what is the old saying, if you build it, they will come. If you will make it, they will buy it. You know? John Adams: Yeah. Yeah. Crystal Nevedale: So I I think it really just boils down to when you really love something, just do it. If y if you don't do it and you think about it for the rest of your life, what a waste. If you do it and fail, okay, fine. You tried it. But if you go your whole entire life wishing you made did that bakery or wishing you sold that product, I mean what a waste of a life. I'd rather have failed. Like when I opened this shop, I thought, you know what, two years. If it doesn't work, okay, so what? Two years, I'll go back to what I was doing or find something new to do. But I'm gonna give myself two years to devote, put my heart into it, and see where it goes. And it was the best decision ever made. Johnny, I didn't know anything about business. Nothing. Nothing. I was yeah. John Adams: Yeah. Neither do I. I'm I'm I'm winging it. Crystal Nevedale: Exactly. But because you love it and because I love it, it made it happen, you know? John Adams: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's a there's an old saying and I'm swearing by it and I'm gonna probably swear by it until the day I die. Fake it till you make it, right? I don't know yit about I mean great thing is we have the internet, right? You can I I mean I'm I'm making a living off of YouTube. I can go on YouTube and watch other people's videos, right? I I can learn through that, but at the end of the day, I don't know anything. I'm I'm I know what I'm doing, I know my craft. Crystal Nevedale: Be it, be it till you become it. No faking it till you make it. Be it till you become it. You know, that's kind of a nicer Yeah. That's a nicer way. It feels better. Yeah. Be it till you become it. John Adams: Yeah, that's it. Yeah. Yeah. Be it to you become it. There you go. I like that better. Yeah, yeah. Be it till you become it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Crystal Nevedale: And that's okay, right? None of us have John Adams: Yeah. Yeah. Crystal Nevedale: to know how to do this life. Nobody really knows how to do this life. We're all becoming every day, you know? Absolutely. John Adams: Yeah. No. Yeah, we're all becoming. Yeah. Yeah. I know my craft. I know what I'm doing. And that is the only thing I can tell you. The business side of it, I'm learning all that. The LLC stuff, the how much money do you need to put aside stuff, the you know, all of that, you know, the write off part, the just everything that you need, you know, building my first booking links, you know. That took me forever because I'm like, okay, how do I do this? Okay. And then I get nitpicky. Okay. Wait a minute. Okay. How do I want to word this? Okay. But I don't want to work with these specific people because I'm going to waste my time and then I'm going to get bad ratings because they're not going to succeed. So how do I pull and make it so I'm only working with the certain people I want to work? And yeah, there's so much to learn when you're building a business, when you're building anything. but at the end of the day. If I wasn't having fun at it, if it wasn't something I was enjoying, I would have quit it the second day, right? I started the podcast and said, Man, four years ago, this was not on my bingo card of life. If you'd have said, Johnny, you're gonna be sitting here, you know, doing a podcast, and you're also gonna be producing for other people and you're gonna be doing, I'd have looked at you and laughed. I'd have There ain't no way. That's a 22-year-old's game. I'm 40 some. I'm not there's no you're Crystal Nevedale: Ha ha John Adams: you're crazy. But I fell in love with it. So now the work part of it's fun. It's just Crystal Nevedale: Right. John Adams: a matter of making sure that I continue to have fun with it. And still, like we said last week in the other episode, is give time to the family too. Don't let the this overrun that. So here's another kind of weird one in the fun world. we have so much access, speaking of YouTube and Netflix and you name it, right? We have so much access to entertainment in the world that we live in today, right? Generations before us, even. You know, we grew up and and are still, you know, living in this world that has l went from zero to sixty, it feels like. In our lifetime, right? But imagine the people before us that didn't have, I mean, we were the last people in the neighborhood to have cable, right? We had UHF, VHF, click, click, click, right? But imagine the people that didn't get to experience what we're experiencing. You know, thousands of movies, millions of songs, video games, social media, all of it, right? It's all in our stinking pockets, and yet. And again, I'm talking to the general you out there, the world. How often do you catch yourself or your hear your kid say? I got nothing to do. This is completely the opposite of where we went last week with we're over busy. But how many other people out there going You you sit there and you scroll through, let's say you've got nothing going on and you're gonna watch Netflix, you're gonna do the Netflix and chill and you scroll for twenty minutes saying There's nothing to watch. You know, when I was a kid, like I said, we were the last people to get cable. You watched what was on TV, and if the president Crystal Nevedale: Right. John Adams: was on, you didn't watch anything. You what that was it, right? So Crystal Nevedale: Yeah. John Adams: when did when did we become so bored with all this stuff? What happened, right? Do you do you think that you experience that between your kids and well, your grandkids are really little, so that's probably not ex an experience, but with your kids? Yeah. Crystal Nevedale: My kids were never bored. My kids were never bored. They were in the creek, they were outside building things, they were playing, they were on their bikes, they were in the mud holes. My I don't think my kids ever I don't think I ever s heard them say bo they were bored. Now when I was a kid I said that a lot. I have never been bored since John Adams: Yeah. Crystal Nevedale: I became an adult. John Adams: Yeah. Well, I'll tell you, I stopped saying I'm bored when I was a kid because my dad, if if he heard those words, it was almost like breathing sometimes. You know, I was just that kid, I'm bored. And my dad finally said, Listen, boy, go outside and play, or I'll give you something. Cause poor you're not bored. You you want to chore, you know what I mean? You want to do that? Go outside. So sometimes Kind of leads me into the next topic, right? Sometimes boredom actually forces us to create fun, right? How many times as a Crystal Nevedale: Yeah. John Adams: kid your kids were out in the creek? They were playing, right? We invented something, right? Or we went to a friend's house. We made tracks in the dirt for our cars to drive in, right? Now today, the second we think we're bored, the second we're not busy. We start putting our nose in these stupid things. And again, I I sound like an I say this all the time, I sound like an 80-year-old man, but it's the truth, right? So do you think in the world that we live in, it sounds like your kids were were really good with it, but in the current world that we're living, people that you know, do you think that this unlimited entertainment, unlimited access to everything has made it harder to entertain ourselves as a human being? Crystal Nevedale: Okay. So I think the overstimulation of all that stuff causes these kids to think that they always need to be entertained. They don't know how to sit with themselves. They don't know how to be at a function and be a part of the function. I'm noticing this more and John Adams: Yes. Crystal Nevedale: more and more you go to parties or cookouts and the little ones have tablets in their hands. That's John Adams: Yep. Yep. Crystal Nevedale: not That's not okay to me. Like I I would ne I w I will never take my grandkids somewhere and give them something to entertain them. There's no way. It's so you're you're basically setting them up for failure. Like, you know, so John Adams: Yeah. Yeah. If you I challenge everybody, I I'm a people watcher and I admit it. but I challenge everybody. Next time you go out to a restaurant with you and your spouse or you and your family, hopefully you're not one of them, but I challenge everybody to just look around and see how many people are sitting across from their wife. Hopefully not their girlfriend, but it it shouldn't matter. And they're not talking. They're both their noses are right in their phones. And the kids are sitting at the other side of the table and they've got their tablet out. And nobody's talking, right? Crystal Nevedale: Mm. Right. John Adams: I promise you you'll see it because we see it all the time. It's it it's kind of like a little game. Are they fresh dating or are they been married or dating for a long time? Cause you can tell because the fresh dating ones, they're eye contact, they're talking, they're having a open great conversation and the ones that have been there for a while they're right in their phone. It it trust me, you'll you'll you'll notice it. It's there. It's true. So Crystal Nevedale: I've done with a few friends where we put the phone up at the meal and whoever picks up their phone first pays for the meal. John Adams: Pays for the meal. Yep. We've talked about that. Yeah. It's a great concept because why do we need it? I think I think I've brought this up on I'm pretty sure I brought this up on the podcast previously, but we were just talking before we went on air about Danny coming over and helping me with that plumbing situation. And we were at Lucinda and Jay's house one day. It was me, Cindy, Lucinda Jay, Danny and Allison. And at one point in the evening. I will tell I myself looked up from my phone to see the entire room of friends and family not saying a gosh blessed thing, but looking into our phones. So I opened up a group text message with everybody in it. And I said, Crystal Nevedale: Mm-hmm. John Adams: So is this how we're going to talk? We had so much fun laughing our ever loving asses off of texting in this group text sitting in the exact same effing room But it's the truth, right? We've become so addicted to picking this. The moment the conversation stops for two seconds, we find something. We're so conditioned that we need some kind of something all the time. We can't just sit in a lawn chair and watch the sunset anymore. And I'm not saying everybody. Listen, I know you're pretty good at it. And me and Cindy like going in and just sitting at the beach and watching the sun. But Think back, like how many times have you gone to the beach at Lake Erie? I want everybody listening, if you're in Ohio, Northeast Ohio, how many times have you gone to Lake Erie to sit and watch the sunset and you picked up your phone and you were scrolling through Facebook? Or you said, I'm gonna, I've gotta post this, and then you ended up scrolling through because you saw something, right? We were talking about this, right? I genuinely enjoy what I'm doing. So maybe that is the question. I think you you took us down that path early, and that's great. You know, maybe it's not that we can't have fun doing things that make us money, things that we enjoy can't become what we do for a living. But That's not kind of what we're talking about. Just what does fun look like for you compared to when you were younger, right? I have fun doing this and I'm enjoying this and this is life, but How many other things like when I was a kid? No, I'm 47 years old and I have to track my steps, or I'm never gonna get them. But as a kid, I never thought twice about I'm gonna Crystal Nevedale: Okay. John Adams: go get on my bike and ride for miles, right? There's this three-mile park behind our house. Not behind, but just right up the road, that takes you from kind of right behind where we live all the way down past Midway Mall. And as a kid. It wasn't black topped, it was just trails. And we did that all the time, almost every day, back and forth, and just now somebody says, let's go walk that three mile trail. And I'm like, and it's blacktopped and it's nice and it's got benches and there's water fountains. And I'm going, When did this happen to us? goodness. I went off on a tangent. huh. Crystal Nevedale: So I think I should challenge you. You I'm gonna challenge you and then also gonna challenge myself and everyone else to finding something that you've always wanted to try in the next couple weeks, because we're gonna be gone a couple of weeks, John Adams: Yeah. Crystal Nevedale: and find something and do it. Whether it's take a g a dance class, glass blow blowing class, whether it's whatever it is. John Adams: Yeah. You don't you don't have to be good at it. And and and Crystal Nevedale: You know, I think no. John Adams: and being bad at it, have fun with that. If you're bad at it, yeah. Enjoy it. Crystal Nevedale: It's more fun. More fun. John Adams: You know, it think about what I just said at the very beginning of this episode. If your grandchild, your five, six, seven-year-old grandchild drew a picture. I won't even say seven, say five. Cause at seven, you're probably looking at him going, hmm no, I'm just joking. That was a bad joke. But Say your five-year-old grandchild comes up to you and hands you a picture and says, Look, I drew this horse. That horse could look like a blob, and you're gonna be so proud of your grandchild. Go join that class. Go try that thing. Go whatever it is. And if you suck at it, who cares? Be proud of what you created because you had fun doing it. And hopefully you've done it with somebody you enjoyed being there with, right? When is the last time that you did something absolutely with no productivity benefit whatsoever, other than being with the person you love or just having a good time at it? When is the last time that you went and skipped a rock? There's no benefit out of maybe you're getting some exercise, I guess, but like when did you go down? When's the last time you went down to a river, a creek, a pond, a lake, whatever? And skip to rock, man. We don't do this stuff anymore. I'm sure there's people out there that do, but how many of us remember doing that? And when's the last time you had? Go this weekend. I don't care if it's raining. Go dance in the rain. Whatever it is. Find something fun, like Crystal just said. And we we batched a few episodes. Crystal's gonna be out of town for a little bit. So By the time we come back live, I I want to challenge everybody, you know, find that thing and let's talk about it when we come back. So in closing, I just want to ask everybody, are you having fun? Hopefully the answer isn't no. And if you're not, you know, if it's a mental health thing or whatever, there's people you can reach out to. But what I mean in in life, when's the last time that you truly just did something because? And I'm not talking about going out to party or have a I'm just talking about something goofy, something just because, right? So any closing for you, Crystal? Crystal Nevedale: Yeah, just find something cool that you've always wanted to do and go try it. I think what I'm gonna do, so I have gonna tell you kind of my challenge. I only kayak because I'm going to find special glass, right? I wanna challenge myself to get in my kayak and go down the river where there's no glass, where there's nothing to look for, but to just enjoy the peace and quiet of the river, John Adams: Yes. Crystal Nevedale: see the wildlife. So I'm going to challenge myself with so before I come back, I'm gonna have went down that river. And I'll let you know John Adams: Nice. Crystal Nevedale: how it goes. John Adams: Nice. No, that's awesome. And if you take a picture, make sure you've got a regular camera so you're not on your phone doing it. No, that's awesome. Trust me, there's so many things that I've Crystal Nevedale: Haven't done that yet, I don't have time yet. John Adams: got on the list of I need to do. but as always, guys, we just want to say have fun, enjoy your time. we've got episodes lined up for the next couple weeks that we've batched up, so you'll you'll have a fresh episode each week. but we'll be back in about four weeks live. Well, not live, but close to average again on live days. So as always, guys, stay healthy. Crystal Nevedale: Stay balanced. Have fun. John Adams: Have fun and keep driving forward. We'll see you next time.