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I Pity the Fool: The ’80s Legacy of Mr. T · Children of the 80s

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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to Children of the 80s. I am one
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  Speaker 2: of your hosts, Jim, and I am joined, as always,
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  Speaker 2: by the lady who pities the fool. It's my co-host, Lindsay.
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  Speaker 3: What you talking about, Willis?
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  Speaker 2: Don't give me no jibba jabba.
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  Speaker 3: I love that.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. So, we did a rant last week.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. What kind of feedback did you get on that?
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  Speaker 2: Go get them, Jim.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, really? Yes.
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  Speaker 1: I was afraid that, because you went in a little hard,
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  Speaker 1: I was afraid that you might hear about that.
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  Speaker 2: I did hear about it.
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  Speaker 3: You did?
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  Speaker 2: I heard either, wow, that's a rant for all rants,
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  Speaker 2: or go get them, Jim.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. Did they say, wow, that's a rant for all rants?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. It was overtaxed.
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  Speaker 3: Or are they like, wow, that's a rant for all rants?
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  Speaker 2: I like to think of that for sure. But it
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  Speaker 2: could have been like, wow, that was a rant.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, you look like an ass, Ed.
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  Speaker 2: Well, he makes you look like an ass, Ed, is
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  Speaker 2: what he does. Yeah, so I got an email today.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah? Okay, wait. Before we get to the email,
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  Speaker 3: let's recap and mention.
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  Speaker 1: That the reason why Ryan Reynolds went in so hard
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  Speaker 1: on the Cuban Missile Crisis is he's promoting a movie,
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  Speaker 1: I believe.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: That's based during that time frame.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: So.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: So one of our Patreoners, John Middleton, told me that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: He was like, you know, you weren't wrong, but just
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  Speaker 2: for some context, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But then
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  Speaker 2: another one of our listeners, Andrew Bradford over in Vienna.
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  Speaker 2: He sent an email today, and he says, good job
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  Speaker 2: reading Reynolds the Riot Act.
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  Speaker 3: I love that.
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  Speaker 2: He made some really asinine statements, which is exactly what
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  Speaker 2: I said. I suspect he was given talking points by
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  Speaker 2: whomever driven by his new show set in the 80s
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  Speaker 2: that involves a Soviet character. At any rate, keep at
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  Speaker 2: it and don't let the stupid statements go by without criticism.
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  Speaker 2: I think back on my time in the 80s, and
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  Speaker 2: I had a wonderful time. Never once did I fear
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  Speaker 2: nuclear annihilation. I was, however, concerned about killer bees from Africa,
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  Speaker 2: quicksand in the woods, and thought the night skylights that
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  Speaker 2: were used for big movie premieres were aliens.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I think we all, except for that
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  Speaker 1: last one, the other two things, absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: Right. I was scared to death of quicksand.
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  Speaker 2: And so, anyway, you know. Getting feedback, positive feedback that
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  Speaker 2: we were correct and that Mr. Ryan Reynolds was incorrect.
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  Speaker 3: You said he's from Vienna.
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  Speaker 2: No, he lives in Vienna. He's here from the States.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he's from the States.
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  Speaker 3: Is he in Vienna?
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  Speaker 1: Because there is a town in South Georgia called Vienna.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the first time he wrote, he said from Austria.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm assuming.
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  Speaker 3: So he's not in South.
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  Speaker 2: Georgia right now. He's not in South Georgia.
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  Speaker 3: No, it's like a Southern....
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  Speaker 2: Southern Illinois, where it was Cairo instead of Cairo.
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  Speaker 3: Right, right, right. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was wondering what kind of feedback we would get.
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  Speaker 1: And so good to know that for the most part,
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  Speaker 1: it sounds like you got people that got your back.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: When Mr.
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  Speaker 1: Ryan Reynolds comes after you with that little neckerchief on.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: I thought of the word neckerchief.
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  Speaker 2: Neckerchief. That's just a funny word.
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  Speaker 4: I know.
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  Speaker 2: So in two days from now, you're going to have
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  Speaker 2: a teenager.
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  Speaker 3: Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope.
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  Speaker 1: I have had, okay, so, okay. First of all, she's
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  Speaker 1: the easiest child to parent. We've been so blessed. We
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  Speaker 1: are so lucky. And if God could only give us one,
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  Speaker 1: I'm so thankful that we got her. But she's given
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  Speaker 1: me a little bit of a run for my money
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  Speaker 1: in the last few days.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because she's going to be a teenager in two days.
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  Speaker 3: So a couple of days ago, I had to actually
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  Speaker 3: punish her for the first time.
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  Speaker 2: In a long time.
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  Speaker 1: In a long, long, long time. And I can say
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  Speaker 1: there's only been a handful in her whole life where
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  Speaker 1: we really had to kind of come down on her.
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  Speaker 1: But it's been a long time. And I originally said
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  Speaker 1: I was taking her phone away from her for two days.
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  Speaker 3: She negotiated that.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, of course she did.
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  Speaker 1: And I said, you know what? I admire that. And
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  Speaker 1: I think you need those skills. So I'll negotiate with you.
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  Speaker 1: So we negotiated. We worked out a deal. But, you know,
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  Speaker 1: that I hated doing it had to be done. But still,
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  Speaker 1: it also kind of opened my eyes to what might
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  Speaker 1: be coming down the road. Now, this afternoon, she comes
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  Speaker 1: into my office. She walks from school to my office.
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  Speaker 1: And I said something that didn't set well with her.
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  Speaker 1: And she started screaming at me in front of all
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  Speaker 1: my coworkers. That was lovely.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that would call for another banishment of the phone,
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  Speaker 2: in my opinion.
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  Speaker 1: And then 10, 10, 15, 20 minutes later, we're walking
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  Speaker 1: to the car to come home.
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  Speaker 3: And she's like, gee, mom, what's wrong? You seem like
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  Speaker 3: you're upset about something.
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  Speaker 2: How did that make you feel?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I did go to therapy afterwards.
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  Speaker 2: Um, I understand what you were feeling. Let's just put
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  Speaker 2: it that way. Oh, why?
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  Speaker 3: Did she say something to you today? No. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I do not understand what you feel from her.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, did I have I yelled at you?
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  Speaker 2: You have... I don't know. I don't want to say
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  Speaker 2: an attack on me, but you have at times... attacked
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  Speaker 2: me and then 15 minutes later been in a good
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  Speaker 2: mood and be like what's wrong.
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  Speaker 3: I'm laughing now because i'm going to kill you later
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  Speaker 3: i remember none of that.
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  Speaker 2: So i'm going i'm opening up my phone and i'm
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  Speaker 2: going to a page so i can be prepared for
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  Speaker 2: what we're going to talk about today yeah and i
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  Speaker 2: see a thing on google with a picture of stevie
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  Speaker 2: nicks And it says landslide singer or singer sings landslide
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  Speaker 2: for the last time while in hospice care. And I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Stevie Nicks is dying. Let me open
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  Speaker 2: this up and see. No, no, It was a lady,
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  Speaker 2: and I mean, it's sad that either one of them
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  Speaker 2: is dying, but it was a lady that was in
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  Speaker 2: a Fleetwood Mac cover band who played the part of
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  Speaker 2: Stevie Nicks.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, my goodness.
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  Speaker 2: Who was in hospice, and she sang Landslide on TikTok
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  Speaker 2: one last time, and people are losing their minds over it. But, like,
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  Speaker 2: you want to talk about misleading headlines.
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  Speaker 3: So you've got to watch out. Was that a Google headline?
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: You have to watch out for those Google headlines.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Because they will mislead you and they will also suck
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  Speaker 1: the time.
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  Speaker 3: Out of your day.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I didn't bother reading it other than that first
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  Speaker 2: part because I wanted to see if Stevie Nicks was
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  Speaker 2: in hospice because I thought that might be something that
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  Speaker 2: we might need to talk about for the pod. But
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  Speaker 2: here we are. It is not Stevie Nicks. You know,
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  Speaker 2: it's this other lady who I, you know, obviously I
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  Speaker 2: feel bad for, but the person who wrote that headline,
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  Speaker 2: I'd like to smack him around a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Sadly enough, and it's kind of ironic that you brought
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  Speaker 1: this up, Stevie Nicks' brother did pass away a couple
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  Speaker 1: of days ago.
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  Speaker 3: Did you know that?
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  Speaker 2: I did not. Well, that's probably why they wrote this headline.
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  Speaker 2: They're trying to scare the tar out of Stevie Nicks' parents.
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  Speaker 2: Or do you think they're still alive?
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  Speaker 1: Probably not. So her only sibling happened to be a
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  Speaker 1: younger brother. He passed away September 4th. So that's kind
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  Speaker 1: of where I thought you were going with this to
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  Speaker 1: begin with.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I don't blame you.
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  Speaker 3: So I also saw a headline.
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  Speaker 1: A couple of days ago, and we spoke about it
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  Speaker 1: just briefly on our nighttime conversation on the couch. But
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to bring it up here, too, and maybe
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  Speaker 1: we can get some feedback on it. Have you heard
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  Speaker 1: that Henry Winkler, the Fonz, and Tom Hanks are feuding?
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  Speaker 1: The world's two nicest guys. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Why are they feuding?
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  Speaker 1: So, apparently, Henry Winkler was originally slated to direct Turner
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  Speaker 1: and Hooch. And they actually even got started on that.
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  Speaker 1: And some people, I think including Tom, did not like
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  Speaker 1: his direction that he was going with the movie. And
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  Speaker 1: there may have been some creative differences. And he was
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  Speaker 1: ultimately fired. And that started... Some kind of a beef
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  Speaker 1: that has gone on now for, what, 30 years, 35 years?
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  Speaker 3: I don't even know.
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  Speaker 2: Well, so here's what we have. We have the Fonz
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  Speaker 2: versus Boozum Buddies. The Fonz wins. that one but then
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  Speaker 2: we've got Waterboy and Scream versus Forrest Gump and A
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  Speaker 2: League of Their Own and Apollo 13 and Toy Story
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  Speaker 2: I think Tom Hanks wins that one. Okay. So it's
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  Speaker 2: a draw.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Can I say something controversial?
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: I think Tom Hanks is too nice and he's hiding something.
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  Speaker 2: What do you mean hiding something?
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  Speaker 3: I think their body somewhere.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, okay. No, Henry Winkler's really nice.
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  Speaker 1: No, I know. I'm not saying anything about Henry Winkler.
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  Speaker 1: I've heard him on numerous podcasts, and he really is
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  Speaker 1: so nice that it seems fake.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: There's something there. Tom Hanks.
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  Speaker 1: I love his movies. I love Toy Story. I love
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  Speaker 1: the idea of Tom Hanks. There's something just a little
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  Speaker 1: bit not right. And I know he's like the golden child.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 2: I love Tom. I've liked Tom Hanks from the moment
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  Speaker 2: I saw him when he was in Booze and Buddies
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  Speaker 2: and then when he was Alex B. Keaton's drunk uncle.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: When, you know, he did A League of Their Own
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  Speaker 2: or Big or Splash or anything like that. Green Mile
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  Speaker 2: was fantastic. My favorite is probably David Pumpkins.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so excited when I can start watching the David
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  Speaker 1: Pumpkins videos.
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  Speaker 2: But I don't know. I mean, I've always liked Tom Hanks.
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  Speaker 3: I like him too, but one day I think something's
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  Speaker 3: going to come out. We'll hear something.
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  Speaker 2: Can you be too nice?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe not. I don't know. Did you
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  Speaker 3: know he also appeared on Happy Days?
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  Speaker 4: Yes!
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  Speaker 3: Did you know that?
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  Speaker 2: I did know that, yes.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't know that until I was reading the article
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  Speaker 3: about their feud.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, Tom guest starred in a lot of TV shows
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  Speaker 2: in the 80s and You know who else guest starred
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  Speaker 2: for a lot of TV shows in the 80s?
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  Speaker 3: Who?
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  Speaker 2: A pitied fool. Are you ready to get started with
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  Speaker 2: today's episode?
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  Speaker 3: Let's do it.
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  Speaker 1: This is a podcast that looks back on the decade
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  Speaker 1: of the 1980s. We talk about things that were important
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  Speaker 1: to us as children and what we look back on
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  Speaker 1: with fond memories as adults. Ultimately, this is a nostalgia podcast.
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  Speaker 2: And today, we are going to do a... I don't
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  Speaker 2: want to say it's a deep dive.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's... Listen, we don't get deep anywhere.
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  Speaker 2: A shallow dive or a semi-deep dive into one of
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  Speaker 2: the most iconic characters of the 1980s. And if you
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  Speaker 2: haven't guessed it by now, you are the fool that Mr.
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  Speaker 2: T pities because... we are going to be talking about Mr. T.
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  Speaker 1: So what brought this up is we saw, I think,
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  Speaker 1: was it Netflix? Had a short little biography documentary.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like a little 40, 45-minute documentary.
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  Speaker 1: And so we watched that the other day. And when
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  Speaker 1: we started watching it, we were thinking, oh, great, this
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  Speaker 1: will be a great episode. When we actually got into it,
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  Speaker 1: we didn't feel like, There was really enough meat there
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  Speaker 1: to do a whole episode. So I don't know. We'll
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  Speaker 1: focus a little bit on the documentary, but not a ton.
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  Speaker 2: So the documentary starts with him telling a story about,
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  Speaker 2: you know, early in life, about how he grew up
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  Speaker 2: in the mean streets of Chicago. And eventually, because, you know,
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  Speaker 2: he did he say he had like 11 brothers?
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  Speaker 3: Uh, I want to say there were 12 total.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. 12 children, four sisters and seven brothers. That's what
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  Speaker 2: it was. So he grew up four sisters and seven brothers. Um,
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  Speaker 2: he grew up kind of tough because he had.
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  Speaker 1: To be, they were super poor because his dad was
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  Speaker 1: a minister and left the family when he was like five.
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  Speaker 3: And so what kind of ministers that.
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  Speaker 2: He wouldn't minister into his children. I can tell you
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  Speaker 2: that much. Um, but he grew up, you know, poor
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  Speaker 2: and very hungry for, you know, doing better. He would
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  Speaker 2: eventually become a bodyguard and then bodyguard for some famous people,
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  Speaker 2: bodyguard for Leon Spinks, heavyweight champion.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 2: People saw his look and the way he acted, the
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  Speaker 2: way he dressed and decided to offer him a spot
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  Speaker 2: in the movies, I guess, um, as an actor, let's
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  Speaker 2: just say that way. So, uh, and he actually was
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  Speaker 2: in the movie, the blues brothers in 1980, but he
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  Speaker 2: just played a guy on the street and it was uncredited.
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  Speaker 2: So not really in that, but then in 1982, he
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  Speaker 2: played the character of Clubber Lang in Rocky three. Now,
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  Speaker 2: This isn't the first time that I saw Mr. T
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  Speaker 2: because I would not have seen Rocky III until about
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  Speaker 2: 1983 when it came on to HBO. But I knew
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  Speaker 2: who he was. He is the best bad guy that
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  Speaker 2: they've ever had in Rocky.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I was going to say, being a kid, watching
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  Speaker 1: it kind of in real time, what did you think
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  Speaker 1: of Clubber Lang?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, he, he was, uh, he was absolutely terrifying because
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  Speaker 2: the movie shot from Rocky's point of view, obviously he's
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  Speaker 2: the character. He's the one who's right in the movie, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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  Speaker 2: So you would automatically be on Rocky's side because he's
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  Speaker 2: the main character. And so Mr. T whose character was correct.
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  Speaker 2: And the fact that Rocky was ducking him, although Rocky
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  Speaker 2: didn't know it, Mickey was having Rocky duck him. Um,
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  Speaker 2: he wanted a title fight. So he was, Absolutely terrifying. And,
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  Speaker 2: and spoiler alert, he comes in and beats the tar
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  Speaker 2: out of Rocky and knocks him out and wins the
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  Speaker 2: heavyweight championship. Um, so his look, his attitude, he just
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  Speaker 2: looked mean. He talked mean. He told Adrian to come
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  Speaker 2: over to his apartment and find out what a real
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  Speaker 2: man was like. Um, Oh gosh. Obviously, Rocky, you know
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  Speaker 2: that he didn't like that, but then he didn't do
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  Speaker 2: anything except get the tar kicked out of him. So
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  Speaker 2: he was fantastic. Mr. T, absolutely fantastic as Clubber Lane.
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  Speaker 3: And that's where the catchphrase, I pity the fool, came from.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 3: Came from him saying it in the movie.
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  Speaker 2: Correct. Correct. But I probably first saw Mr. T, if
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  Speaker 2: I did not see him on Rocky III, he was
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  Speaker 2: on an episode called Of Silver Spoons in 1982. It
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  Speaker 2: was like one of the first episodes of Silver Spoons.
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  Speaker 2: And so this should have been released about the same
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  Speaker 2: time of Rocky III or maybe a little bit after.
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  Speaker 2: But I don't know that I would have seen Mr.
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  Speaker 2: T by then. So he's in Silver Spoons. He was
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  Speaker 2: Ricky's bodyguard. Edward Stratton hires Mr. T as Ricky's bodyguard
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  Speaker 2: when Ricky comes home with a couple of black eyes
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  Speaker 2: because he's getting bullied at home. Obviously he would. Go
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  Speaker 2: on to star on the A-team as B.A. Baracus.
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  Speaker 3: Do you know who I think of when you say B.A. Baracus?
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  Speaker 2: No, I do not.
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  Speaker 3: Sean Jones from Smoke and Sound's podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Why do you think of Sean?
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  Speaker 3: He was talking about when we were doing our 80s
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  Speaker 3: TV shows, right? Wasn't he talking about how much he loved?
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  Speaker 2: Yes. BA team and BA Baracus.
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  Speaker 3: And I just hear it when every time I read
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  Speaker 3: that name or hear that name that I hear it
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  Speaker 3: in Sean's voice.
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  Speaker 2: So he hosted Saturday Night Live a couple of times.
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  Speaker 2: He played himself on different strokes when Arnold got the
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  Speaker 2: mohawk just like him.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: He was in Alvin and the Chipmunks, the cartoon. Of course,
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  Speaker 2: he was in the cartoon Mr. T as himself. He
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  Speaker 2: would go on to be in wrestling.
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  Speaker 1: So, but right as his popularity grew, he became like
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: he was a whole big franchise.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, for sure. No, I mean, all this marketing and
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: everything was genius because he got his own cereal. He
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: got his own cartoon. He was guest starring in all
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: these TV shows. He was the star of a TV show.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: He was in movies.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: I feel like were there Mr. T little like figure dolls?
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: I feel like there should have been.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure there were, but. I know that
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: there were Rocky figurine dolls, and I had Rocky, Apollo,
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: and Clubber Lang on my figurine dolls.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: Oh, wow.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I wish I still had those. Those were awesome
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: because they had the boxing gloves and everything.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: That would be so cool.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: So we went from like Rocky III in 1982 right
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: into the A-Team that ran from 83 to 87.
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: So just imagine riding that high.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. And then, so, Rocky 3, 82. A-Team, 83
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: to 87. But, like, 85, WrestleMania. I was going.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: To say, what fell into the middle there?
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, WrestleMania. And then his own cartoon from 83 to 85.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: His own cereal, which was basically Alphabets with just a
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: bunch of MRTs.
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: So.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: I heard did you ever eat the cereal i heard
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: it was basically like captain crunch.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: No i think it was like alphabets i think i.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: Thought the the texture was like captain crunch but it
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: was t's.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: Okay, folks out there who remember, let us know. I
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: believe it was Alphabets. Lindsay thinks it was Captain Crunch.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: I mean, why would he be? He didn't go around
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: saying the alphabet. Why would it be the alphabet? I know,
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: but it was a T like the Alphabets. Correct. The Alphabets?
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: The Alphabet.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: Alphabets was a cereal.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: Oh, I did not know.
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: I thought suddenly you didn't know how to pronounce alphabet.
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: I was like, whoa, is that the Canadian way to
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: say alphabet?
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Folks, do you see what I got to deal with
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: on a daily basis?
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: Oh, goodness.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: Alphabits was a cereal. It had the letters.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: You could spell stuff in your mouth. Mr. T looked
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: like the alphabits. It looked like the alphabet T.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: Correct.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Okay. So we're actually agreeing. No, because you said it
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: tastes like Captain Crunch. Yeah. I don't believe it did.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay. Okay.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: If you agree with me on that, now we're actually agreeing.
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: All right. So what else you got?
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: So he starred in TNT in the late 80s.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: I was going to ask you about that. Had you
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: ever heard of that?
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: I've heard of it. I never saw it. It ran
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: from 88 to 90.
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: And then.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Sadly, we then bumped into the early to mid-90s, and
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: he hit a rough spot. He was diagnosed with T-cell
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: lymphoma in 1995.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: And we know what that is.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: We unfortunately know a lot about that because that's what
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: my mom had that at the end of her life.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: And he beat it. Anybody also made light of the
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: fact that it was called T-cell lymphoma.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: He had a cancer named after him.
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: So I'm just looking here, even when he got into
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: the 90s, right? He guest starred in an episode of
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Out of This World.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, really?
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's funny.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: And then he guest starred in an episode of Blossom.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Yes, I remember that. I think I remember that because
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: I loved Blossom, of course.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: A couple of episodes of Suddenly Susan, which I never
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: really watched. And then he would come back and do
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: some more wrestling.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: He ended the late 90s.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: After he dealt with the whole cancer situation, he really
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: leaned into his faith. And he does, even now, a
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: lot of charity work. And he speaks openly about his
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: faith and trying to encourage other people, which I think
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: is an important thing to mention. So the Netflix documentary
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: is called Untold, Mr. T, I Pity the Fool. I
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: got a couple of little known facts.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Okay, lay them on me.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: Do you know why he originally started wearing all of
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: the gold chains and gold jewelry?
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: Wasn't it because he was trying to look the part?
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: He was a bouncer.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: At a nightclub.
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: And people lost jewelry and jewelry fell off and they
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: left jewelry behind. And he just started wearing the jewelry
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: that he found left at the nightclub.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Oh, really?
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: And then it became like his thing. So he had
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: to keep it up.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: Now, after time.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Hurricane Katrina in 2005, he felt it was disrespectful to
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: the victims to continue to wear all of the gold chain.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: It was like flaunting. Oh, look at me. Look what
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: I have. You have nothing. So he stopped wearing all
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: of the gold jewelry then.
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: Oh, wow.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: I didn't know that.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: So he grew up watching people disrespect his victims. dad
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: and his brothers by calling them boy, which is obviously
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: not appropriate and not okay at all.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: Nope.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: And so that's why he decided he was going to
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: be Mr. T. And what did he say? First name, Mr.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: Middle name.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: That period.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Last name T. Yep.
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: Mr. T.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: He said that on Letterman. He said that on Silver Spoons,
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: if you remember. So, you know, I go back to
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: that episode of silver spoons. Not everybody's going to remember this,
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: but you'll probably remember it. Cause we watched it in
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: the last couple of years. Cause Emmy loves silver spoons. Remember,
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: you know, he scared the tar out of the teacher
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: because of the way he looked and because he was
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: tough and because he, because he was, he, you know,
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: no nonsense.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: So the teacher was afraid of him, but then she
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: asked a question and nobody in, nobody in the class
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: could answer it. So he like, slowly raises his hand.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: I remember that.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: And she called on him and he answered the question.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: That was funny. And that was really good acting because
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: he wanted to answer, but he was like nervous to
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: raise his hand. He wasn't sure if he should.
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: He played the part perfectly.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: I love that.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: When he was a bodyguard, listen to this. His clients
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: were Steve McQueen, Michael Jackson, Diana Ross, And Muhammad Ali.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Oh, man.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Now, what kind of a bodyguard do you got to
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: be to be Muhammad Ali's bodyguard?
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: So I thought that that was really funny.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: He decided to go with a Mohawk after seeing a
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: picture in a National Geographic magazine of a Mandinka warrior
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: from West Africa.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he said that. He explained that in the biography.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: He talked about a lot of people thought he had
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: the Mohawk because of the Mohicans, right? Which is where
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: Mohawk comes from because they wore their hair somewhat like that,
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: but they didn't have it on the sides. They just
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: had the Mohawk on top and then the rest of
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: their hair was bald. He said, no, it's not from
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: the Mohicans. It's from, what was the tribe? The Warriors?
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: Mandinka Warriors. I'm a little freaked out because... I see
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: a picture of him where it's talking about his gold
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: chains and he's got a pentagram around his neck. And
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: you know, old Danny taught me always be on the
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: lookout for those pentagrams. And still to this day, I always.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: Scan for it. And I'm seeing one right here. And oh,
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: oh my goodness.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: What are you looking at?
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: Or is that a Star of David?
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: It's probably a Star of David and not a pentagram.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: I hope it's not a pentagram. It's one, two, three, four, five,
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: six sides.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Starve David.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: Oops.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: Well, good. I was worried about him for a second.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: I'm glad I can, I can, uh, mark that off. Okay.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: So when he hit it big, he bought a nice
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: house in a good part of Chicago in the suburbs
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: of Chicago of call.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: It's called Lake forest.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Okay. He did this in 1987.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Well, uh, One thing you may not know about Mr. T,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: he has really bad allergies. And so he went in
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: and he took down approximately 100 oak trees on his
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: property because he didn't want to deal with the allergies.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: But he did that without asking anybody or checking with
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: anyone first.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: He got in a little bit of trouble, didn't he?
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: His neighbors dubbed the incident the Lake Forest Chainsaw Massacre.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Fantastic.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: In 2014, speaking of his time wrestling or wrassling, he
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: was inducted into the WWE Wrestling Hall of Fame in 2014.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: He should have been. He starred in the main event
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: of the first WrestleMania, which is the event that changed
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: the history of wrestling. Like, it changed it going forward
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: from 1985 on. Until that point, everything was a territory,
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: and it was still up for grabs. And if that fails,
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Vince loses everything, and it's all over with. So, in
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: my opinion. And then he'd go on to be in WrestleMania, too,
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: as well. He was in a boxing match with Rowdy
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Roddy Piper. So, yeah, he absolutely should have been inducted
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: into the Hall of Fame.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: What a good guy with a great heart he has.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: But I will say one thing that I noticed in
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: the documentary that made me a little sad was, I mean, he's,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: he's older now. He was born in 1952.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: He is no longer that hulked up. Right. Clubber Lang,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: which is how he is in my head. He's more,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: you know, he kind of looks like a grandpa.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: Which is fine.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: I'm just, it's, Just another little dig probably at my
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: own mortality.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: But it kind of was a gut punch.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. And I'm sure when he went through
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: the treatment for cancer that it wasted away his muscle
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: as well.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Oh, no doubt.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: And we know it does that too. Yeah.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: So, anyways, look at this picture here. Now, this is
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: classic Mr. T. It says it was from 1983.
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: He's posing... With one of his action figures. So he
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: did have action figures.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: I knew he had to have.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: Is that not just, that's what you think of when
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: you think of Mr. T.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: So I'm glad that you brought that up. I'm going
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: to propose that there is no more recognizable character from
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: the 1980s than Mr. T. I would agree with you
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: on that. Because of his look. and because he was everywhere.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: I feel like, I mean, I'm going to say that
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: 99% of the people are going to recognize Michael Jackson.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: Right, yeah.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: But Michael Jackson had the biggest selling album of all
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: time and he had other albums in the 80s and
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: he was the biggest pop star and we know that
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: pop stars are the biggest things in the world, but Mr.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: T had a look.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: The Mohawk, the muscles, the gold chains, the, the rough talk,
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: the mean look. He had all of these things that
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: he was instantly recognizable. And if you put Michael Jackson
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: walking down the street, Just as a normal-looking person and
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: not dressed up in his Michael Jackson gear, I'm going
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: to bet some older people don't recognize him.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: You have Mr. T walk down the street, I guarantee
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: you every single person recognizes him. So I'm going to
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: say he's the most recognizable star with his look from
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: the 80s.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: I've got one more thing I want to touch on
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: before we wrap this bad boy up.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: Okay, I've got one more thing, too.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: What about him.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Jumping on the Say No to Drugs bandwagon with Nancy Reagan.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. I forgot about that. Yes, he absolutely did.
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: And what about he went to the White House.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: He dressed up in his version of Santa Claus outfit in...
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: When was this?
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: 1983, shortly before Christmas. She sat in his lap.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Yes. And gave him a smooch.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: A little weird. A little weird. He probably rocked her world.
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: Stop.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Um.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: gave him a little smooch, and he says, which was precious,
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: it seemed like a genuine, like he was surprised. Wow,
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: she kissed me. It's like that commercial. She kissed me
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: and nothing seems the same. So how sweet is that?
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: I love the fact that he really looked honored to
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: meet the president and the first lady and that he
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: called his mom and said, Mama, I've made it because
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: I'm going to be at the White House. I loved it.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: He seems like for somebody who looks so tough and
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: seems so mean, especially in his movies.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: Uh-huh. I know. Right. And then he's really, he's just.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: A softie teddy bear, but he was also a bodyguard.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: So he could take care of business.
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: He wasn't just a teddy bear, but ultimately had a
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: good heart. So here's, here's kind of what I wanted
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: to point out. So I want you to think about this.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: So he was in Rocky three and then he was
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: in DC cab and then he had some, flashback archival
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: footages from Rocky four. And those are the only movies
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: he's in during the 1980s. Okay. And then now he
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: is in 97 episodes of the 18. Right. But he
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: guest stars in silver spoons. He guest stars in different strokes.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to count the cartoons.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: And then he was in T and T. From 1988
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: to 1990. That's it.
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: That's all he did. Yet, look at how many people
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: recognize him.
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: Oh, I know.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: He's one of the biggest icons of the 80s.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: Yes, he is.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: He had his own serial. He had his own cartoon.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: His own action figures. Everybody knew who he was. I
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: want to say that nobody made more with less opportunity, almost.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: Because it's two movies and one TV show and then
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: a guest star in four or five TV shows.
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: And that's it.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: It's huge.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: And, I mean, that's amazing. You wouldn't look at.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: If Tom Hanks doesn't star in Big or Turner and Hooch,
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: and you've just got him in Splash and maybe one
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: other thing, and then you've got him in Booze and Buddies,
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: and there's a couple of things, he wouldn't have been
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: that big in the 80s.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: No, he would not have been.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Like Mr. T was.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: Mr. T was just the total package. He was cool.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was really cool. He was really funny. And
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: he was actually a really good actor because he came
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: across as mean and rocky, but he came across as
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: smart and funny in the A-Team. So, hey, you know,
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: I love Mr. T. That's all I'm going to say.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: I love the 80s, but Mr. T is one of
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: those iconic figures that I think about when I think
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: about the 80s.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: I agree. I agree. Well, we would love to hear
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: your thoughts on Mr. T. You a fan? What are
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: your memories of Mr. T growing up in the 80s?
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: Let us know.
• 34:22
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• 34:28
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• 34:34
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• 34:37
  Speaker 2: $ 5 a month, which I would like to point out,
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: as Sally Struthers used to say, it's less than a
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: cup of coffee a month. All right. Good luck getting
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: a Starbucks for five bucks right now.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: I was like, you couldn't buy a $ 5 cup of
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: Starbucks coffee a day. Right.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: So five bucks a month. You get all the extras.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: You can join in on our extra episodes. We have
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: special polls. We are even doing a countdown of the
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: greatest year of the 1980s in music, which you can
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: vote on if you are a member of our paid
• 35:12
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• 35:16
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• 35:18
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• 35:19
  Speaker 3: Awesome. That sounds good.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: So that's what we'll be doing next week. But yeah,
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: go check that out. Looking forward to it. Until next week,
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: I'm Jim.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: And I'm Lindsay. And we are Children of the 80s.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: See you next Wednesday.