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3YPC-(DRAFT SERIES-WR-TE) Episode 9.556 · 3 Yards Per Carry - Miami Dolphins

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to Three Yards Perkati, a podcast covering the Miami Dolphins and the NFL.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, here's your host, Chris, Alf, and Simon.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: wide receivers.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if you guys saw some of the the mocks going around, but there was one where it's milk hyper and I forget who the other two guys are, but if Matt made it when Jordan read.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, my God.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That that mock draft.
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[SPEAKER_03]: First of all, they have a taking penalty.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No problem.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's a good player.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But what followed?
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[SPEAKER_03]: how uninspiring was that mark draft.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Simon, we'll start right there before we get into why receivers.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I don't where they're getting their intel from, but man, that was not a good group.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't comment on it because I didn't see, I saw Matt Miller seven round one, but I didn't see a, I didn't see a male kind of one.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, it was basically hitting every.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What would be the opposite of the original songs?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was... Because the Matt Miller-Mark, the seven round one where he had, the Kylemon, Colton Hood, Eli Stowers, VJ Pain, J.J. That's right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sarah, Randall, Marvin Jones, etc.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was a good draft.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But when the three of them got together, like, I'm trying to find it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe I'll find it before the shows over, but...
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[SPEAKER_03]: like it was not a good group.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it was one where they took turns and making the picks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I guess, is this the one where they took San Kenyan City, can it really piss you off?
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, that was another one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, that was another one.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That was another one.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That was another one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was another one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How you 11?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Emmanuel MacNeil Warren, who's a really good player at the A.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Caleb Lomo, a 43, which is a really good pick.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's actually, I don't know how to check that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I'll take that, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then round three, where are we?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but they passed on Rubin' Bane to take her and I'll take.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Derek, okay, that's, that's okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The one that I had most defence took was the Bruce Feldman, one for the day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, God, yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Where he just traded the 30th peak for the 56th peak and a seventh rounder.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wait, what, Bruce?
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's you're going to move back, but it's going to be fixed.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's going to be rounder.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that might be the worst I've ever seen, like as far as those draft pick trades like that might be the worst of the scale.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that the the e-peak was worth 680 and I think the 56-peak plus the 203 or whatever it was were worth 310 or something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just an unbelievable incredible.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You make that trade, you get fired almost on the spot.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he had him moving up from 11 to 7.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was trying to explain to people how these work from year to year, how expensive it would be to move from 11 to 7 in any particular year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it would have been actually not from, probably.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, interesting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it might not be that expensive to move from 11 to 9.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I can see, and that's sort of a Ruben Bane kind of move.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, Bane is going to end up in Cincinnati at 10 or something like that, you know, you could, you could justify it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right, so let's talk.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Why receivers.
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[SPEAKER_03]: By the way, on on discord, what did you think of my, my bell bell bell idea assignment before we get into 11 and 30 for why receivers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This again is something I haven't seen now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, I had a, I just saw, I just saw it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is about Christopher Bell.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then one of the receives I really don't like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have a Christopher Bell.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Fastly over a Skyler Bell, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Christopher Bell, no.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, just one of the most polarising prospects in the entire draft.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think if you actually study him and look at his route running, he literally runs three routes, that's all he does, he runs a one route to route a nine route and that is literally it all he does in certain games and I watched about five games of his, it's a scout was like what tell me what you see and I said like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: He wins on the vertical plane.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got all that speed to be able to cushion on a 9-row, but he's literally just running drag routes to different depths, to different yards.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He lacks any sort of patience.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He can't actually run routes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He can't drop his hips.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he gets really pissed off with a quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The ball doesn't come as way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He just doesn't sell at all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't block.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't give a shit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He'll jump up and down on the spot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If the ball goes in a different direction like honestly, I just But other than that, he's great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he was brilliant.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, mate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When he gets the ball, his hands is great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that size 61222.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like 612.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's six.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's full six.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, 601-70, so yes, 62.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's all the stuff like off the field.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got loads of maturity issues.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One coach said he's, I've got a quote here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's, road has always been and will continue to be paid by a maturity, like he punched Jordan Bell, Jordan Clark in the face, when he's at no change, and then sat in his face, I just like, yeah, not for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Skyler Bell on the other hand, I really like it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But Chris Bell, I just,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, clearly he'll now go on to be a Hall of Famer, but the load of upside for him, but sometimes players just have to be more than the sum of their parts, I think, and I just don't see it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And also he tours the end.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just remember, just remember that it seems like, I don't know if this is an exaggeration, but most of the really good receivers are a little unhinged.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Mike comparison for Michael Paris and for Chris Bell is is so perfect in this regard because Personality wise he's kind of the same and that's AJ Brown.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I think the some AJ Brown vibes I think he's more Xavier LaGate in terms of his play
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But anyway, my idea was, uh, Chris Bell day two, scallorbell day three and Dylan Bell as a U.D.
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[SPEAKER_03]: of a, uh, I kind of like all three, but let's, let's stick to 11 and 30.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just saying, I'm just sad, by the way, off for that, you know, the bell bell thing that you did.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just sad that this draft doesn't give us the ability to give us a bell bit of devout, you know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Be great, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: We can all take care of that, they're at the same time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we can have a bell strip.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we can just want to devout.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, uh, talk about a good player.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I got my, my little list here for 11 for third not that I would take any of these guys at 11 because I think we got bigger fish to fry, but I think these are the guys that kind of stood out for me and I guess you guys can contribute yours and elaborate and call me an idiot if you want.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't understand what a lot of people are saying.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, he's a, he's a, he's a day to guy and he's too small and I'm like, I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't see it like the guy is a good player and he really doesn't have that many bad moments on tape if any.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So those are the two that I like that the top.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I understand some people are trying to sell this Jordan Tyson thing, but I just don't see it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I got Casey Concepcion and I got Chris Brazil as the other two guys that I would consider at 30.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's pretty much it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I got four wide receivers I would consider at 11 and 30.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Not that I would consider any of them at 11, your thoughts Simon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, they're not going to pick a guy at 11.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think, and it's historically it's a green-bait thing, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: They've picked what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: John Erickson 11's picked one wide receiver in the entire time when he was there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He comes from that Ted Thompson, Rumble, Brian Goodton, Skull.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The only receiver they did draft was Matthew Golden last year, and it was a bit of a disaster until the last couple of games of the season, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love McIe lemon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's the best receiver in the draft.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Everything he does, I love all the off-field stuff is complete.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That one press conference
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[SPEAKER_01]: eradicates all the amazing stuff he has off the field.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like Tanal Tate that the speed kind of worries me a little bit, but you know he makes up for it with the route running and the physicality and the hands he's a sort of guy where you know if you want you're asking somebody to run an 18 yard route he's going to be exactly 18 you know he's that kind of guy, you know I mean the precision in his routes is great he's a great blocker he's a great store blocker
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jordan Tyson was free of injuries, back to back to back season and injuries, having been injured in high school.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you watch his tape, there's a lot of Jumar Chase in his tape in terms of when he gets the ball his hands and how he moves, what he's got it, he can high point the ball, you know, it's just that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: the injury is just worried that the shit out of me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Concepts your own, I think he's great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He is so nuanced as a player.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like people just think, oh, he's just a speed guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's just a punt returner.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's just a skinny little guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Go and look at Tirek here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anybody who's been up...
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[SPEAKER_01]: The scenery is absolutely massive, okay?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Concepts shown is a big guy like Tyreech.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He moves like Tyreech.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The nuanced Christmas route running is superb.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The way, like go watch the snaps against Mansour Delaine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I really like Delaine, but go watch what conception does to him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The way slow, slow, quicks Delaine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He is a really, really, really, really good player.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Brazil, I think, he is an extraordinary mover.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The movement skills he has are just...
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[SPEAKER_01]: phenomenal and people say I was a Tennessee receiver and I get the people have PTSD Chris about Tennessee receivers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This guy's completely different.
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[SPEAKER_01]: His route running is just like he's as good a route when I was the resident in this draft.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's an absolute burner.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's six foot four hundred and nine pounds.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's an absolute burning when a 437 of the combined he's another absolutely mental head case like like Belle who like Doesn't give a shit what's happening in the ball goes in the opposite direction, but Isn't absolutely a parian absolute trash talker when he was a kid his mom and dad Thought he had no emotion whatsoever as they took him to like it's ultra competitive 7 on 17 in Florida Well, he just got barked out by DBs the whole time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was just like you need to stand up to it where you just melt
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[SPEAKER_01]: and he just became an absolute trash talking king.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But to me, he's got that George Peking's kind of, I think he's talented at level is absolutely electric.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a really, really good player.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the top of this class, the top of this class actually came away with a little bit problematic to me because, you know, I'll take, I know somebody has to play devil's advocate on McIlaman, but, but you are talking about a guy who
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, he's maybe a half inch smaller than then concepts, you know, but he comes off a little small on tape.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He plays a little bit with a with small, you know, kind of small catch radius.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Not really a lot of arms extended there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He has to play like a Jackson Smith and Jigbo or a ominous tape round.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He has to play with the ultra high IQ because he makes up for being small by also not being that particularly
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, and and that's that's a problem that can be a problem.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So either he's going to make up for with this ultra high on the on the hoof high IQ, which is what separates those guys is being able to be high IQ players on the run, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he has that in him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so he does have that ability to transcend.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's a very hard time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, very high IQ guy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't care about the press conference at all.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to even evaluate that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I think that he has the potential to transcend in the same way that those guys do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But if he doesn't, you know, I think people would be surprised at the very short distance
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[SPEAKER_02]: between somebody like a Jackson Smith and Jigba or a ominous ain't brown versus go all the way down and Elijah Moore, you know, and and if you are, if you are not able to transcend.
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[SPEAKER_02]: with special attributes, the way that those guys can and become super high volume players, then you become trapped in that small slot receiver box.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so it's like, it's what I've characterized it is kind of a high ceiling low floor pick with McIlliman.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so that's the danger there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Jordan Tyson, you mentioned, I really question the guy's toughness.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that, you know, you mentioned George Pickins actually, but I think our George Pickins earlier with respect to Chris Brasal, but, but I think that this is, I think that this guy Jordan Tyson is either George Pickins or he's Dante Pettis, you know, and, and I think that, um, I think that
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[SPEAKER_02]: the way he's built, the way he runs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think he's a burner.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think he is a really talented player.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He has, you know, burst, he has the ability to change gears.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Man does he, he knows how to play the receiver position.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He can break down a corner and do like really great things as a receiver.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But also I question the toughness.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's kind of one of those
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[SPEAKER_02]: you know, kind of fuckups on the field.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And the guys that will that will do something that just whether something after after the catch that is just really questionable or something, you know, even before the catch, it's it's really baffling.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This guy has the ability to disappoint you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: on the field, nearly as much as he has the ability to disappoint you by not being on the field, which is his history, his injury history.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm a little bit, I mean, there's a play, it was like fourth quarter, one minute left in the game, and I think it was a third and four or something like that, and so obviously, you know, this is a crunch time play, catches a ball in a slant and he slides
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[SPEAKER_02]: and instead of running through it and being a tough guy, I question the guy's toughness, I drink and genuinely do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I think that he is a guy, though, that will track the ball in the air and in the lead level, adjust to it and the lead level, and it has some really interesting traits as a wide receiver, but problems, problems.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Carnal tape, we go to the top.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I sort of question the role a little bit because he played it's like a field Z with Ohio State, but you mentioned Simon, you question his speed.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He is speed deficient for trying to be that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's not a guy that's he's like six to, you know, about 200 pounds maybe a little bit under it, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he kind of played as that, you know, that vertical guy with Jeremiah Smith on the other side being more of a boundary X, I think.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't think that he can do that at the next level.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And one of the things that you have to pay attention to is in that Ohio State scheme and, you know, playing opposite Jeremiah Smith.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He actually, he was at an all you can eat buffet for the things that he's good at, which is breaking off routes and using his magnificent hands and toe tap ability and body control and getting on the sidelines.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think that he threatens vertically at the next level to play that position.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think he has to move positions, move positions, and so it leads me to question, what's it going to be like when the coverage is a little bit different?
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[SPEAKER_02]: That he's used to facing the type of coverage, you know, forgetting the level of coverage, but the type of coverage is going to be different when he plays at the next level.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That would be a question that I have.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I'm just labeling all these questions for all these top guys, you know, whether it's Carnell Tate or McCuy Lemon or Jordan Tyson, the one guy that is the exception you mentioned in this case, he can say, you know, and where I think that you could try and box him into a certain type of receiver.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's the run after catch guy, you know, he's the, you get him this, the ball on screens and stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I think that he breaks out of that box because he is a three level receiver like he will beat you the hell, you'll beat the hell out of you deep.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And the only reason that you probably don't have some ridiculous deep stats is because his quarterback was, you know, terrible terrible.
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[SPEAKER_02]: terrible at getting him the ball terrible at it and I know like people oh you blame the quarterback now no watch watch the tape watch him get get open deep and then watch the quarterback not be able to hit the broad side of a barn on those deep balls or really any I mean he had things very difficult in terms of ball placement the the the level of the level of of difficulty and the catches that he had to make and catch the transition from catch to run
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[SPEAKER_02]: And things like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he was not done any favors by his quarterback and yet he really transcended.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's why I think that that's why I think he's my best receiver in the class.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I like him the best of all receivers in this class.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that he has the juice.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think he can make an immediate impact like Luther Burton did with the Chicago Bears last year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's six foot, he's a full, I think he's a six foot oh, and 196 pound guy, that's not little.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We've seen little in Miami.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We have a lot of little in Miami, or at least we did have a lot of little on Miami.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And this is not a little guy necessarily, but I think that he is, he's the one that I would look at and say, not only can you fill your role, I think that you can transcend to other roles too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not sure you can even play your role.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And some, you know, and the other guys, I perceive kind of, this is very boomer bust.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is very high ceiling, this is low floor.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And Casey Conceptio and I think has high ceiling high floor.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so that's why that's why he would end up being like my top guy there.
19:47
[SPEAKER_01]: One thing I don't like is that he, and some of the hands are seven drops last year, but also, I think some of the drops are, I don't think he likes being hit particularly.
20:00
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a small knife so I don't know who wants to be hit, but that to me is an area that I think he needs to improve upon is that.
20:06
[SPEAKER_02]: You mean like the alligator armstinger?
20:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, a little bit.
20:09
[SPEAKER_01]: A kind of cloudy area is the field a little bit where he knows he's going to
20:16
[SPEAKER_02]: He has an instinct for cradling.
20:18
[SPEAKER_02]: He has an instinct for it, and it doesn't show up all the time.
20:22
[SPEAKER_02]: It shows up some of the time.
20:23
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like an instinct to create a label.
20:26
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's such a prolific return man, right?
20:31
[SPEAKER_02]: That I sort of wonder if that's where that comes from.
20:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Because, you know, on punt returns, it is about cradling the ball.
20:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it is cradling the ball into your body like that.
20:42
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think there are certain routes and certain times
20:45
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, he kind of falls back into that falls back into the the bad habit and it gets them in trouble.
20:51
[SPEAKER_02]: And then there's up, but then there's other times that would probably be more concerning to me, where he's clap trapping the ball.
20:56
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's just bad that's bad not bad hands, but I mean work on your hands, right?
21:02
[SPEAKER_02]: And like that's that's where I would get a little bit nervous about him, but
21:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Ultimately, are we talking about hypersentages here with the drops and things like that that I did this the top 20 earned sorry the top 32 most productive receivers in the NFL last year from a fantasy perspective their drop rates were at like an average of for the group of like six percent his is nine.
21:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, okay, a couple of all.
21:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the other thing with him as well is that when he was at NC State.
21:38
[SPEAKER_01]: They really used him as a manufactured touchers guy and, you know, we haven't, you know, that really wasn't the thing it takes to say a name or not, not close to the thing.
21:46
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he obviously, you know, he went to the to college station and worked with Holland Wiggins, who was Alabama's receiver's coach with, you know, Devon to Smith and Jalen Waterle and James and Williams and Henry Rugs and Jerry Judy and John Metchi and all of those guys, and just helped him become a receiver and you really didn't see the kind of the, the manufactured touch of the jet sweeps, the,
22:06
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I mean, God, they were handling the ball in the outside zone sweet game as a kind of a running back at NC State and you just nip.
22:13
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the third level.
22:14
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the three level players.
22:16
[SPEAKER_02]: You can do it deep.
22:17
[SPEAKER_02]: You can run routes and intermediate level and the manufacturer touched stuff.
22:21
[SPEAKER_01]: He can.
22:21
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm all for it.
22:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever size he, I mean, what, what size is 511, 511, 511, 5196?
22:27
[SPEAKER_01]: You can play him as a slot.
22:30
[SPEAKER_01]: You can also play him as an X or as a Z, I think he's so versatile to do any of those things.
22:34
[SPEAKER_01]: You can play him out the back field, you can motion him, all of those same sorts of things that the dolphins have done with Tariq Hill.
22:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I just think that he's that kind of play.
22:42
[SPEAKER_01]: You look at the flex knee and cause the explosion out the brakes, naturally, all of those things.
22:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Just the trade crafts are outrunner that I just really like.
22:49
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I could picture a couple of days from Marcel Reed, like somewhere in Call of Station checking his phone and saying, oh, this is interesting.
22:59
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe they're going to talk about Casey conception and then he tunes in around the 21 minute mark and he's like, the fuck is, am I a fucking target of this?
23:09
[SPEAKER_03]: All of a sudden.
23:10
[SPEAKER_03]: He didn't catch a stray.
23:11
[SPEAKER_02]: He caught up a zuka shot.
23:12
[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, look.
23:13
[SPEAKER_03]: And if you are as fond as I am of watching all these podcasts from all these college teams, Marcel Reed caught a lot of stray's last year.
23:23
[SPEAKER_03]: He was not a fan favorite at college.
23:25
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the short was held for a lot of the time to be fair.
23:28
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you know, so 11 and no record or no 11 and no record.
23:33
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he did not have a lot of fans, but big year for him coming up here.
23:37
[SPEAKER_03]: By the way, Simon, did you catch John Erick Sullivan with Kevin Clark when he was when Kevin Clark asked him what was the best prospect you ever scouted, did you see that part?
23:47
[SPEAKER_01]: No, sorry, I also didn't see.
23:49
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
23:49
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, he was maybe aggressive aggressive instead of being passive aggressive because he said, and he thought about it.
23:55
[SPEAKER_03]: Like he was formulating the answer, and Kevin Clark caught him and said, look, you can't say Michael Parsons because I know that that was your guy in Green Bay, and then he goes,
24:07
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, so I did see Jeff Haffley on with the K Adams when one half said how much he liked Matt LaFlor and then he just took a big shit on Ben Johnson by saying don't worry at the end of the game, we'll definitely shake hands.
24:21
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not that kind of guy.
24:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Which I thought was excellent.
24:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
24:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Do we play the lines next year, but yeah, that was fun.
24:33
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, moving on to the very two, they too, which will be pretty rich and yes, sorry, the bass and ammunition, 43 75 87 90 94.
24:43
[SPEAKER_03]: They could easily take two pass catchers in that group.
24:49
[SPEAKER_03]: I think this is where the strength of this classes because I look at this and especially one of those third round picks.
24:56
[SPEAKER_03]: I keep looking at him and yes, I do
25:03
[SPEAKER_03]: But I've given a second and third in a fourth look to Jeremy Bernard.
25:08
[SPEAKER_03]: I just like the guy.
25:09
[SPEAKER_03]: I think he's a player and I like him in space.
25:12
[SPEAKER_03]: I like him catching screens.
25:13
[SPEAKER_03]: I like him running in the open field.
25:14
[SPEAKER_03]: They give him a lot of jet sweeps.
25:16
[SPEAKER_03]: They trust him with a lot of, I guess what you would call manufactured touches at Alabama.
25:24
[SPEAKER_03]: I absolutely love that player and I don't know what they're boarded saying, but I think I'm thinking about it at 43.
25:31
[SPEAKER_03]: I think he's a very, very good player underrated and not not talked about as much.
25:39
[SPEAKER_03]: as like the other design of Boston's Omar Cooper Jr. Who's a very good player, by the way.
25:44
[SPEAKER_03]: Also, not a big fan of Denzel Boston.
25:46
[SPEAKER_03]: I give it another look.
25:48
[SPEAKER_03]: But I guess we could start there with that group and your thoughts on Bernard, who love Bernard.
25:55
[SPEAKER_03]: I love Bernard.
25:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Love him.
25:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he'd be Mike Madenner's work dream.
25:58
[SPEAKER_01]: If Madenner was still the head coach, just everything he does, I just love.
26:02
[SPEAKER_01]: He's so versatile.
26:03
[SPEAKER_01]: He's got great hands.
26:04
[SPEAKER_01]: He can win between the hatches.
26:06
[SPEAKER_01]: He's great after the catch.
26:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's not a blazer necessarily.
26:08
[SPEAKER_01]: He's not a windy people.
26:09
[SPEAKER_01]: It would be such a tough out for a defensive back for a safety for a overhang.
26:14
[SPEAKER_01]: He's fucking, he said the effort.
26:16
[SPEAKER_01]: He's absolutely obsessed with football.
26:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Always
26:21
[SPEAKER_01]: was at Washington with Roman Dunzey and Jelom at Millen and Denzer Boston early on in Jelom Park.
26:26
[SPEAKER_01]: And I just see you just win in multiple ways.
26:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Look, it's release packages.
26:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Diamond releases.
26:31
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a really refined route runner.
26:33
[SPEAKER_01]: He can overpower at the catch point.
26:34
[SPEAKER_01]: He can create separation.
26:36
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's really, really tough as a blocker.
26:38
[SPEAKER_01]: He's an outstanding blocker.
26:42
[SPEAKER_01]: when he catches the ball though, you go at what's puking the kooer and the kooer catches the ball, he's not fast, but there's first three steps after he catches the ball are electric, he creates huge separation and bananas exactly the same kind of guy.
26:52
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what Ryan grabbed it in terms of when he lined him up across the formation, all the different places, motioning him back with the formation to help with blocking, taking on like five techniques on the end, I just I love him, I just think he's such a good player, such a good player.
27:07
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't I don't love Omar Cooper.
27:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I've got to say I thought his tape was a bit.
27:12
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you know, I can put in a threat.
27:14
[SPEAKER_03]: You would agree with that, right?
27:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, not necessary.
27:18
[SPEAKER_01]: I think great off the catch.
27:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I.
27:21
[SPEAKER_01]: I just wasn't blown away by his tape.
27:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I think so, absolutely a player.
27:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Not a massive fan of Boston, but I just think in the area, you've got those guys that you mentioned, you've got Madakai Fields, you've got Josh Cameron, nobody's talking about a bailer.
27:34
[SPEAKER_01]: You had Eric McAllister, but unfortunately, McAllister had a, they found a Jones factory in his foot at the pro-day, two or three days ago, which will probably knock him down a bit.
27:42
[SPEAKER_01]: You talked about Skylabel earlier, you weren't
27:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Chris Bell area on Stribbling, Hurst, Bryce Lance, like CJ Daniels, Malik Benson, it just goes on on Antonio Williams, Deon Berks, and then you've got a load of these like slot guys that literally nobody's talking about, but like Lewis Bond, Boston College, who was recruited by Hathley, like nobody talks about him, no, like it doesn't have good size, isn't explosive, isn't twitchy,
28:08
[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't have athletic movements or speed.
28:10
[SPEAKER_01]: You're in a 455, it's probably that all the other does is get open, make catches move the sticks.
28:15
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like all time leader in receptions of BC, unbelievable.
28:19
[SPEAKER_01]: How he just catches the ball moves the sticks.
28:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Like the guys just electric, nobody's talking about kids like this.
28:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody wants to talk about Brennan Thompson, because he runs fast, literally a one season one there, and it's been injured the entire time of drought as career.
28:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Johnny, but it's just that middle area, whether that's Bernard on downwards, just some really, really intriguing players.
28:39
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think the dolphins will come away crisp probably with two maybe.
28:44
[SPEAKER_01]: on that in that third round area, or one in the second, one in the third, just because there's just so much to choose from in terms of.
28:50
[SPEAKER_01]: And I believe Haffley when he said the other day when Casey to, you know, who's Malik and a throw to and he was like, well, you know, we're not, you know, we're going to have some good guys and have some really good guys to throw to.
28:59
[SPEAKER_01]: And it kind of, you know, hinted that it wasn't just the guys on the roster because let's be honest, there's not a lot of ready good guys on the roster.
29:06
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, I can I could actually see that and we're back to yeah, we're back to a Jeff violin used to say we got a bunch of 3s and 4s.
29:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we have.
29:17
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that I think that you have to separate some of these some of these players and the multiple tracks as you know, as for what kind of.
29:26
[SPEAKER_02]: what kind of player that they are, what kind of receiver that they are, you know, and I think that Jeremy Bernard for instance, you you mentioned him, I think that he and Omar Cooper actually somewhat similar guys, similar similar players.
29:47
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I'm surprised that Bernard doesn't have better zone, doesn't have better zone production than he does.
29:56
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, that's that might be something to look into, but certainly Omar Cooper has phenomenal zone production and less exciting man production.
30:15
[SPEAKER_02]: that you can work against the zone.
30:17
[SPEAKER_02]: And you have Malik Willis at quarterback and what's he gonna do for you in the run game and with his threat, the threat of his legs.
30:26
[SPEAKER_02]: You're not gonna see a lot of man.
30:27
[SPEAKER_02]: You're not gonna see a lot of backs turn to the guy, right?
30:30
[SPEAKER_02]: So you're looking for guys that can be productive and zone.
30:34
[SPEAKER_02]: But also, and this is probably when we need to touch on a little bit is this could be where you see
30:41
[SPEAKER_02]: you know, hey, we're evaluating these guys that can play this way and possibly contribute in this way, or we could just make a trade, you know, for a green bay packer, since they have too many mouths to feed, you know, the green bay packers already had last year before last year's draft, they had Jaden Reed and Romeo Dobbs and Dantavian Wix and Christian Watson, right?
31:07
[SPEAKER_02]: That's already arguably too many mouths of feet, and then they make it worse by drafting the Matthew Golden in the first round and then saving Williams in the third round.
31:15
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, now you really have a problem.
31:17
[SPEAKER_02]: And have a top three.
31:18
[SPEAKER_03]: They have a top three pass catcher, I tied in as well.
31:20
[SPEAKER_03]: And took a few.
31:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, right.
31:21
[SPEAKER_02]: And then at the owners meetings this weekend, Matt LaFlor is talking about how some people on the team were unhappy with their role and that took a toll on its team.
31:33
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's coach speak for the people that were unhappy with the role.
31:37
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't want them back because once they go down that road,
31:41
[SPEAKER_02]: where there are a little bit of a distraction.
31:43
[SPEAKER_02]: It's really hard to put the toothpaste back in the tube, I think.
31:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Our at least from a coaches standpoint, that's how they think of it.
31:49
[SPEAKER_02]: And that leads us to, okay, who's available from a green bed, you know, and I think that, I think that there is something to the rumors that don't have even wicks might be available.
31:59
[SPEAKER_02]: And Dante and Wix is one of those guys that I think you know has or obviously would already have a relationship with Malik Willis can be used in this lot can be used against zone and and do some of the things that we're looking at with a certain track of the wide receivers in this unit then there's the other track.
32:18
[SPEAKER_02]: which is the defense busters and these are vertical, a vertical guys.
32:23
[SPEAKER_02]: You're talking about Chris Brasselma.
32:25
[SPEAKER_02]: You're talking about a little bit Denzel Boston, although I agree with you guys that I have some, I have some, a little bit of, you know, reluctant on him.
32:34
[SPEAKER_02]: But you're looking at Chris Brassel.
32:36
[SPEAKER_02]: You're looking at Ted Hearst.
32:38
[SPEAKER_02]: You're looking at the, one of the guys, I don't know why he's not
32:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Trey Lenin's his brother, I think that he is, he is a potential defense buster.
32:53
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that Chris Bell is, but you know, you outlined a lot of problems with Chris Bell, right?
32:59
[SPEAKER_02]: But you know, these are the kind of guys that you're looking at, and you need to pay attention to what the dolphins say or what the coaches say whenever they talk about John Ayrx, Sullivan has mentioned it, Jeff Half-Lasman, and Matt LaFlor has mentioned it.
33:12
[SPEAKER_02]: They won't talk about them a week.
33:13
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll also talk about his accuracy.
33:15
[SPEAKER_02]: They talk about his downfield accuracy.
33:17
[SPEAKER_02]: They talk about, you know, particular of his downfield accuracy, who in the Dolphins roster would downfield accuracy even apply to, just too too at, well, who they picked up for a veteran's minimum contractor, Terus Marshall, who just gets passed around the league like a joint at this point.
33:34
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think that, I think that they might be looking for that vertical element with this wider receiver unit, and I would bet money.
33:43
[SPEAKER_02]: that they will draft somebody like that, whether it be Brasal or whether it be Ted Hurts or whether it be Bryce Lance or whether it be another guy that they, I know that they've had
33:58
[SPEAKER_02]: in and we talked about we kind of went back and forth a little bit on on discord about them and that's a more of a day three guy that's Caleb Douglas.
34:06
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that they're going to they're going to draft somebody in that mold, which is you know the fast vertical tall, you know that and kind of guy, because you look at Melton Lake Willis's tape, he had something with Christian Watson,
34:21
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, he really did.
34:23
[SPEAKER_02]: And so, you know, I think that they will pursue somebody with their, it wouldn't surprise me at all.
34:30
[SPEAKER_02]: If, you know, Ted, her, Chris Brasal.
34:33
[SPEAKER_02]: No, it would actually more surprise me if one of those guys were not ended up, uh, end up drafting by the Miami Dolphins.
34:39
[SPEAKER_02]: at some point.
34:40
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'll throw a Caleb Douglas in there as a sort of a day three that adude.
34:45
[SPEAKER_02]: And obviously, I don't know the class is encyclopedic as you do Simon, so I don't know that many other, you know, diamonds in the rough for that day three area, but yeah, I think that one of those guys is probably going to be a dolphin.
34:59
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and on Bryce Lance, I don't know what happened in the last five days, but Lance Carolina for whatever reason had him as a 99 in the athleticism, like that was his athleticism score.
35:10
[SPEAKER_03]: And today, when I was writing my notes down, he busted him down to a 98.
35:15
[SPEAKER_03]: So he lost a point in five days.
35:17
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what that.
35:18
[SPEAKER_03]: And by the way, it's confirmed.
35:20
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, because I doubt that I miss wrote 99 five days ago and today it's 98.
35:26
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I'm a Lance, that's the one thing that concerns me a little bit.
35:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the release packages, there's not a lot of great variety, I think he's playing against guys who, like I watch some, like, like,hurst has been, you know, kind of civilians in a way, a little bit.
35:46
[SPEAKER_01]: But the downfield stuff is, it is, um,
35:50
[SPEAKER_01]: compelling, but I think in terms of how it tracks the ball, how I explosively use on the vertical plane, how it gets up and longs, how it shoulder a corners, albeit to billions, you know, and tracks it, and gets the ball.
36:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Great hands, 3.8% career drop rate, you know, I just big long, long arms, long kid.
36:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just worried about the new one's bit, but I think it's a very epicide point you might have.
36:14
[SPEAKER_02]: But this type of receiver is not a nuanced player.
36:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Like that's not the role that they fit into.
36:22
[SPEAKER_02]: You want to develop them into that so that they can kind of transcend and be a multi-threat.
36:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but you want to be like either deep routes and then he's running the deepovers and the 20 audience of those, you know, he's not going to be the, you know, the complicated comeback routes and all of those things.
36:37
[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to be that guy that's going to work the long middle and the deep part of the field.
36:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I, you know, to me, there's, you know, what's in his, the obvious comparison.
36:45
[SPEAKER_01]: I think there's a bit of Andre Yoshivashin is in his game.
36:49
[SPEAKER_01]: And obviously, he plays in that really run heavy scheme.
36:51
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the bison still play, you know, a run heavy, um, even a cold paint and throws it down the field more than any of those those court of acts.
36:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, so he can block as well, which is, I just compelling upside, I think to, to Lancet.
37:04
[SPEAKER_01]: I do.
37:04
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I think very compelling upside.
37:06
[SPEAKER_02]: I like I'm alive.
37:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Six, three, four, four, four, I mean, that's, you know.
37:10
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he fits into that box is that defense buster like, you know, verticality kind of guy, but when I watch him, I think there's when I watch him physically, when I watch him route, run his routes, even though he, you know, he has development to to be had there.
37:25
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I see, I see a player that could really transcend out of that, just that role that box.
37:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
37:32
[SPEAKER_02]: At the end of the day.
37:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
37:36
[SPEAKER_01]: And they know the people there, they've been to that world with Christian Watson, that's not an unmind area for some of them.
37:47
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they know the area well, even in the previous regime, they used to devote a trip to North Dakota State every single year, which is completely out of the way for regional scouts.
37:58
[SPEAKER_03]: So that was a one-stop shop really to go see players.
38:03
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's notable when teams actually send a scout.
38:07
[SPEAKER_03]: That way.
38:09
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, before we go to break one last guy, because I don't think we gave him enough enough talk here.
38:14
[SPEAKER_03]: I think he's kind of confirmed for for day three, although I wouldn't surprise me, but at his size, he ran for for.
38:22
[SPEAKER_03]: Skyler Bell from from from from Yukon.
38:25
[SPEAKER_03]: His tape is twitchy.
38:28
[SPEAKER_03]: To the point where he was reminding me of of Zayf flowers almost like he's really good in space, fearless across
38:37
[SPEAKER_03]: Like this man does not care.
38:39
[SPEAKER_03]: I forgot which wide receiver it was.
38:41
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it was Steve Smith, Junior.
38:43
[SPEAKER_03]: It was Steve Smith, Senior, who said, if you could have killed me, kill me, but I'm catching the ball.
38:48
[SPEAKER_03]: And this guy is absolutely fearless.
38:52
[SPEAKER_03]: I came away extremely impressed with Skylar Bell.
38:55
[SPEAKER_03]: So the point where he gets a little asterisk right next to his name, and he's a guy who we make it a day three.
39:01
[SPEAKER_03]: There's no way that guy's getting off of my board.
39:05
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, he's a guy I'm absolutely targeting.
39:07
[SPEAKER_03]: I guess we could go to break on this, just a front page on Scullabell, Simon.
39:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I should have won the billet in the car for me.
39:13
[SPEAKER_01]: I love my car lemon, but 101 catches 1,000, 200, something eight yards last season.
39:18
[SPEAKER_01]: He was a finalist.
39:19
[SPEAKER_01]: These, she for me, is that I just want to see it against a more consistent level of competition, right?
39:23
[SPEAKER_01]: But what he put on tape was outstanding,
39:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Dominant, I suppose, you know, he's very fluid route.
39:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Ronald has got real twitching his ankles.
39:36
[SPEAKER_01]: He knows exactly how he can run three tier, three-level routes.
39:41
[SPEAKER_01]: It's all high-level stuff.
39:43
[SPEAKER_01]: He ran the four-
39:45
[SPEAKER_01]: 39, 440 at the combine.
39:47
[SPEAKER_01]: He just has to get open.
39:49
[SPEAKER_01]: He went at the catchboring.
39:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's stronger than his size suggests.
39:52
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a tenacious blocker.
39:54
[SPEAKER_01]: He's your blocker in the perimeter run game.
39:56
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he's been around in a full coaching gym more a junior, work ethic, attitude, team captain, mature.
40:02
[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to be 24, a little bit older and prospects.
40:04
[SPEAKER_01]: a good player and they're just an athlete and I grew up because I could have crossed star and a field hockey star and basketball and track and field winter to the state championships.
40:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I was hockey, played for the gout shows who were in that big AAU team in New York.
40:18
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, he's a good player.
40:21
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a bit like and get behind him.
40:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, well, get behind him.
40:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, real quick, I just want to mention their names is that CJ Daniels.
40:29
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that meeting nightingham with Malik Willis is legit.
40:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Played with them two years at Liberty, and then Caden Weijan, who you just mentioned on Discord the other day as the entertaining stories about childhood.
40:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Not just, I don't think just a return, man.
40:45
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's more than that.
40:47
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think he got as much
40:48
[SPEAKER_02]: much of a chance to show that at Iowa because of this sort of offense that they run and and tie it very tight and heavy.
40:56
[SPEAKER_02]: And so I, you know, I noticed them all the time in those shrine practice tapes.
41:02
[SPEAKER_02]: The shrine practice tapes he was all over the place and those quarterbacks wanted to find them, you know, so that's something to pay attention to.
41:09
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I was like a production this last year at University of Miami.
41:16
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it was expected a lot of miles to feed plus I had Costa once to run the ball.
41:19
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, you know, and when my like I Tony is getting what was at 138 touches, like, it's hard to find anybody else to get touches in a season.
41:29
[SPEAKER_03]: But he's a fabulous player.
41:31
[SPEAKER_03]: Good guy, too.
41:32
[SPEAKER_01]: So slow time for C4, I bathe.
41:36
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's like that's in my opinion, it's disqualifying, but you know, once you get to UDFA, I'm interested.
41:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I definitely don't.
41:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I definitely think they don't.
41:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, he's a day three.
41:44
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a day three.
41:45
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a day three.
41:46
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a day three.
41:47
[SPEAKER_03]: He's a day three.
41:48
[SPEAKER_03]: He's a day three.
41:48
[SPEAKER_03]: He's a day three.
41:50
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
41:51
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, here we try four.
41:52
[SPEAKER_01]: He turned 24 this week in the last week or whatever.
41:55
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
41:57
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, we're going to break.
41:59
[SPEAKER_03]: And when we come back, we will do tight ends.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But first, these words.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And we're back.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right, just head and group.
42:05
[SPEAKER_03]: If you've noticed, if you're looking at the clock, we'll have to half the time to talk to head ends that we did, that we spent talking wide receivers.
42:14
[SPEAKER_03]: Because there's not a ton to talk about, but there's a lot to talk about.
42:18
[SPEAKER_03]: There's a lot, yeah, so yeah, in other words, why receivers get 40 minutes?
42:22
[SPEAKER_03]: Titans get 20 minutes on this podcast.
42:25
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot to talk about.
42:26
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the NFL for you right there.
42:29
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
42:29
[SPEAKER_03]: So there's a lot to talk about at 11 and 30 because there is kind of a,
42:36
[SPEAKER_03]: a guy that you would you would invite to the green room in it's in Pittsburgh.
42:43
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's in Pittsburgh this year.
42:44
[SPEAKER_03]: So you would invite this guy to the the green room because this is a guy who's kind of confirmed first rompick kind of a sexy pick for a lot of a lot of contenders, you know, could Casey actually take him ahead of the dolphins and then this whole point is
43:01
[SPEAKER_03]: 11 at 30, I think it's a no-brainer.
43:03
[SPEAKER_03]: You want to pass capture.
43:04
[SPEAKER_03]: You want to give Malik Malik will listen, you know, some pass captures.
43:09
[SPEAKER_03]: Why not start with the best head in in this draft.
43:12
[SPEAKER_03]: At 11, there's just no chance.
43:16
[SPEAKER_03]: But I like them all the way around.
43:18
[SPEAKER_03]: He has his issues.
43:20
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think he's a, he's not a bad blocker.
43:24
[SPEAKER_03]: He's a good blocker.
43:25
[SPEAKER_03]: He's a good positional blocker.
43:26
[SPEAKER_03]: He's just a
43:28
[SPEAKER_03]: you know like like he's going to he's going to do his job like if you ask him to you know now he's going to run duo with a tackle well i don't think so i don't think that's what he he's there for but he's a good player all the way around he has no warts except what he might have off the field but your thoughts Simon at eleven and thirty i guess thirty would be just a no-brainer you're great
43:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not really, I just don't just scenario where the dolphins are taking the time in this rebuild plan.
43:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they're going to do exactly what they've said all along, build from the inside out.
44:02
[SPEAKER_01]: And I would be really surprised that we don't come way out that first round with an interior offensive lineman and either an edge guy or somebody can play tackle in the years time and play his guard for it.
44:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I just
44:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I just don't, I just don't see it unless somebody drops or like I likes to dig, I think he's a good player.
44:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I think, you know, he's six, three, two, four, he first of all, his tape is a lot, there is an awful lot of, you know, tunnel screens and fire screens and jet sweeps and manufactured touches.
44:36
[SPEAKER_01]: and his skin catches what we nearly as easy to achieve at the next level.
44:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's released packages aren't amazing, but yeah, he can get up to see, he's got an almost upside-up to see, I mean, the athletic profile is off to charts 11th and Bruce Filman's Freaks List.
44:52
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, with the ball in his hands, he can turn up field and run and he can be an absolute article current in the run game.
45:01
[SPEAKER_01]: He gets vertical displacement against bigger men.
45:04
[SPEAKER_01]: He uses hands really well, redirects hands really well.
45:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I think there's some offield things.
45:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Tom Machiai alluded to some offield things in November said that people in the building were frustrated with his lack of effort.
45:15
[SPEAKER_01]: He wasn't a great effort guide on the field in practice.
45:21
[SPEAKER_01]: the lack of separation and just a bit of kind of lack of days ago.
45:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he's hands are amazing.
45:26
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's got inconsistent hands.
45:29
[SPEAKER_03]: But they're strong though.
45:30
[SPEAKER_03]: They're strong.
45:30
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
45:32
[SPEAKER_03]: Like he doesn't get jarred from the football too often.
45:34
[SPEAKER_01]: At least I never thought broke hours.
45:36
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and I just, I don't know, I just think for a team that's trying to build and trying to build for the inside out and to get players who
45:45
[SPEAKER_01]: They've said it themselves, 2028 is the year, they think they're going to be properly competitive.
45:49
[SPEAKER_01]: So they've got two years to find guys who they can build.
45:53
[SPEAKER_01]: And if that means Spencer Fano 11 or Vega, you're one, eight, eleven, and then Caldrick Folk at 30, a 20-year-old kid who's already elite against run, but, you know,
46:03
[SPEAKER_01]: That that's me is what they will do.
46:04
[SPEAKER_01]: I just can't see a scenario where they take a tie end at 30.
46:07
[SPEAKER_01]: I just can't.
46:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it would be as surprising as taking a wide receiver at 11.
46:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yes, you know, yeah.
46:16
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean, like that doesn't seem like a green Bay thing to do, because Kenyan City is it's not just about the tight end position.
46:23
[SPEAKER_02]: It's about what kind of tight end he is.
46:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and yeah, he will try his, he will, he's an effort blocker.
46:30
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he's, he will give it, he will give it his all as a blocker.
46:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, I think I'll brought up a good point though you're probably not attaching him to the formation on the wrong side.
46:39
[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, and having him do the things against the, in the run game that you want him to do.
46:45
[SPEAKER_02]: I would say that it wouldn't surprise me if they went with a tight end somewhere in day two, but and I couldn't list reasons for that.
46:54
[SPEAKER_02]: However, it would really surprise me for a Kenyan city get number 11, for example, and that would, or even, you know, even to some extent, 30 as you kind of alluded to.
47:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and I'll give you a couple more reasons for that.
47:09
[SPEAKER_02]: And one is that it seems like these guys do have a thing for height and size at the tight end position.
47:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and I think that that's, um, the, you know, this is, that's not the mold for a canyonsity, really.
47:25
[SPEAKER_02]: And the second reason is look at the roster at tight end that they have right now already.
47:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
47:31
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you're talking about Greg Dulcice, you're talking about Cole Turner, you're talking about Zach Coonz and Jalen Connures, and then you're talking about Ben Sims.
47:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's like four bottles of ketchup and one bottle of mustard.
47:45
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, and so I think that that's, it would surprise me if they went for the smaller, just period at some point, went for the smaller Titan because one, it doesn't fit their prototype,
48:01
[SPEAKER_02]: And two, it doesn't fit with what's already on the roster.
48:05
[SPEAKER_02]: They need somebody you can line up on attached to the formation.
48:09
[SPEAKER_02]: And unless you think Ben Sims is just that guy, and the new Julian Hill is going to take a massive amount of snaps.
48:18
[SPEAKER_02]: And everybody's pissed off that he's taking that many snaps, but that's just the way it is.
48:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Then they're going to need a sizable tight end, a guy that they can trust at why, a guy that they can trust to block an edge player.
48:31
[SPEAKER_02]: and, you know, it's not canyonsity.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, um, so no, I don't think, I don't think that's in the cards.
48:38
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, moving on to day two, there is two players in day two that I am, I am eyeballing, that I do like a lot, uh, some roster of of Stanford and Michael Trig of of Baylor.
48:51
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't like the IO stake hits, either one.
48:53
[SPEAKER_03]: Kasmarik.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Kazmaak's a great blocker.
48:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, but not for day two like he's no, but you're you're looking at that kind of Jackson Hall a him and Borka chair that the kid it takes a saying in there.
49:05
[SPEAKER_01]: They're they're the two absolutely ask kick-up blockers.
49:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, they're guys that you you absolutely can stick on the end of it.
49:14
[SPEAKER_03]: How do you pronounce his name?
49:15
[SPEAKER_03]: The one from Texas saying at Borka chair?
49:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Borkutcher, yeah, B-O-A-R-K-U-R, C-H-U-R, would be how you finish it.
49:22
[SPEAKER_03]: Borkercher, yeah, Cosmaric is, but really, those are the two guys that I got in D-2.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Roush and Trig, I'm intrigued by both.
49:31
[SPEAKER_03]: Zirline gave Trig Gerald Everett as a comp, and now I can't unsee it, because...
49:36
[SPEAKER_03]: like his body confirmation like kind of sells it for me.
49:40
[SPEAKER_03]: I like both guys.
49:42
[SPEAKER_03]: I love both guys.
49:42
[SPEAKER_03]: I would use pretty much any of those pics just because it's such a light class that there could be a run in the second round of tight ends meaning you know four or five go off the board and then you're left with nothing on day two.
49:56
[SPEAKER_03]: So those are my two guys that I would be interested in.
49:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I think we have to look at like you're separating guys from.
50:02
[SPEAKER_01]: So for example, I think Oscar Delp is one of the most underregarded players in the entire jar.
50:10
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Dr. Saul Greggle saw tag them up big time today.
50:13
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
50:13
[SPEAKER_01]: He's the number one Titan in the country out of high school, right?
50:16
[SPEAKER_01]: He played behind Brock Bowers and because he didn't get on the field because Bowers is catching everything, they just essentially just trained Delp as a blocker.
50:24
[SPEAKER_01]: and he's become such a good blocker and what he does is allow play call it a stay in 11 or 12 personnel all the time because he can simply operate like a down air Washington does.
50:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you know what I mean?
50:32
[SPEAKER_01]: And so much of what he does really well just never shows up on the stack sheet.
50:37
[SPEAKER_01]: He can work like an extra offensive lineman a lot of the time and nobody's bothered to unlock that athletic ability because they just had Dylan Bella Colby young and Zachariah branch and all these other kids to throw to so they just never threw through to him in part because He was so good as a blocker and they're trying to bed in monro freely on the left hand left side and the the freshman kid on the right side and it's just like just keep
51:05
[SPEAKER_01]: a 251 pounds and he'd done it all with a, like a, he didn't even work out the combine because they discovered the other hairline fracturing his foot.
51:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're still running four, four, nine.
51:14
[SPEAKER_01]: It's pro day, like a 10 days later.
51:17
[SPEAKER_01]: So, played the entire season with the hairline fract, I think Delper is a really, really good player.
51:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Roush, like,
51:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I liked him in the summer.
51:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought he was an excellent.
51:25
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's got like NFL lineage out there.
51:28
[SPEAKER_01]: He's great uncle's Merlin Olson, Hall of Famer.
51:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's got some serious.
51:34
[SPEAKER_01]: He lived abroad.
51:35
[SPEAKER_01]: He lived in Indonesia.
51:36
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a big rugby player as a kid.
51:38
[SPEAKER_01]: And then moved home to Nashville.
51:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I just think again, he's athletically talented.
51:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he reminds me Tyler Higby, another former ram, or maybe slap the Rams.
51:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Tighten, really mention Joe and Everett.
51:49
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think you've got to spit it out.
51:50
[SPEAKER_01]: You've got like guys like stowers.
51:52
[SPEAKER_01]: You've got guys like treekey mentioned.
51:54
[SPEAKER_01]: You've got guys like Justin Jolie.
51:56
[SPEAKER_01]: You've got guys like Russell Merrillan's RJ Merrillan's, you know, those kind of guys who are very much that are married near Blacks.
52:04
[SPEAKER_01]: The guys who are the kind of the the age backtires, the Howard Fannins, the the Taps guys.
52:10
[SPEAKER_01]: You've got the blockers like Borkature and Kess Murray.
52:13
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you've got guys like, you know,
52:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Dan Velari probably goes into that first section and then the all rounders, I think, and some of the all rounders maybe just quave us I think it's a bit more round and maybe Joe Roy they can it since now he injuries the killer that it takes us It's unfortunate that Mars kit someone ran like a 515 or whatever ridiculous he slow time around because actually I thought his tape was really good And then you could have known today nobody talks about Eli Raider
52:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, carpets, carpets.
52:42
[SPEAKER_01]: What, carpets, carp, carp, carp, carp, carp.
52:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Rarely then.
52:46
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's just a really solid play.
52:48
[SPEAKER_01]: He can do, he can be a really good why he gets vertical displacement from that why he can get down the field as a receiver, he's strong, he's powerful, grip, strength, as a blocker.
52:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I just think he's a really good player.
52:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Like massive hands, high floor.
53:01
[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of daunting shorts.
53:02
[SPEAKER_01]: You're in a 460A.
53:03
[SPEAKER_01]: He can do a lot of things for you.
53:04
[SPEAKER_01]: So you just have to separate those guys.
53:09
[SPEAKER_01]: like big guy with German kid, like he is a really interesting kid as well and, you know, you sit behind AJ Barnard and Coastal Loveland and, you know, I think he ran an elite, I mean, he ran an 11, 1400 meter time in high school, like it's kid can absolutely shift, and again, I just don't think we've even begun to scratch the surface of how good he could be.
53:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think that when you talk about day three or day two with this tight end position, this is where I would kind of take the devil's advocate on, you know, how important the tight end position is going to be to the rebuild.
53:42
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I don't think it'd think it'd be a surprising of a day one pick as.
53:47
[SPEAKER_02]: know taking a receiver at 11.
53:49
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I agree with you there.
53:51
[SPEAKER_02]: But you know you just got to keep in mind the inside out philosophy to me applies to the Titan because I think that the Titan is a total multiplier or force multiplier in your whole offense because he touches so so many areas of the offense.
54:08
[SPEAKER_02]: He touches a lot of what you can do from a multiplicative standpoint
54:13
[SPEAKER_02]: He definitely can touch what you can do in past protection with help, you know, when you get in help from the tight end and then, you know, obviously in the passing game and with the mismatches and things like that.
54:27
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that it's sort of a triple threat, you know, kind of thing that I wouldn't be surprised that they prioritize on day day two of this draft.
54:35
[SPEAKER_02]: So you nailed that you had the nail in the head with Oscar Delph, my favorite, you know, that's that that's my favorite guy for them to take in day two really.
54:44
[SPEAKER_02]: is and I wouldn't be surprised if he's priority too in day two.
54:50
[SPEAKER_02]: I think the draft media have probably got it wrong on him as for where he's being evaluated by by the NFL.
55:00
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think the NFL is that perturbed by lack of production from a tight end at the college level because that's the way it goes and there's a strong history of that.
55:11
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a strong history of I'm sorry, these guys don't necessarily produce at the college level and that's just the way their offense is on and it has nothing to do with them.
55:23
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think that this is this is par for the course
55:26
[SPEAKER_02]: for the NFL and evaluating these tight ends.
55:29
[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't think an Oscar doubt will slip to the cracks.
55:32
[SPEAKER_02]: And I want to be surprised if he is a priority for the dolphins because, you know, think over you're talking about we need to get past catchers from willas at the wide receiver position, but there's more than just the wide receiver position.
55:45
[SPEAKER_02]: When it comes to that he fits, he checks the height box and then he's a full six five, you know, he is a big player and he blocks really well.
55:54
[SPEAKER_02]: He does, he does tricky things in the run game for for Georgia.
55:58
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that, you know, fits perfectly.
56:00
[SPEAKER_02]: You mentioned a couple more Sam Rausch obviously he would fit in that mold somebody he could trust at the why.
56:07
[SPEAKER_02]: I think they need that.
56:09
[SPEAKER_02]: desperately.
56:09
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think they have that on roster right now.
56:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I said, four bottles of ketchup, one bottle of mustard and the one bottle of mustard is a
56:17
[SPEAKER_02]: you know, a guy that wouldn't normally be on a lot of rosters.
56:22
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think that I think that they need that, they need to prioritize that.
56:26
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's why one of the reasons I think Oscar dealt might be a priority.
56:31
[SPEAKER_02]: I would also see, you know, Max Claire is a possibility.
56:34
[SPEAKER_02]: You mentioned Kasmer, right?
56:37
[SPEAKER_02]: He's another possibility because of what they're needing on the roster to fill it out.
56:45
[SPEAKER_02]: and to develop.
56:47
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I think those guys.
56:48
[SPEAKER_02]: And then then Marlon Klein, I did want to, I wanted to mention him because that is a possibility for one of those, you know, those end of the third round type of picks that got 87, they've got 90, they got 94.
57:01
[SPEAKER_02]: It really wouldn't surprise me.
57:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Michael Trigg is a guy that, you know, the one thing that you have to.
57:07
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, reconcile with him and I like him.
57:10
[SPEAKER_02]: He stood out to me last year, just for the athleticism and playmaking potential, but I don't know if he's going to play like a smart player.
57:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Because he doesn't always play like a smart player from what I've seen on film.
57:27
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, Max Clare, Oscar Delp, Sam Rausch, the Kasmurik, you mentioned Eli Rared, and that's right in that.
57:37
[SPEAKER_02]: in that lane of what I think that they're going to go for.
57:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, why are all you unarranged it?
57:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know unarranged it so it unstowers.
57:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, unstowers, you know, I like stowers quite a bit, actually.
57:50
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that he's a good player.
57:52
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's a good past catcher and a good weapon.
57:55
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I want, I'm not sure if the draft
58:00
[SPEAKER_02]: value versus where they'd have to pick them, it quite matches up, works out.
58:07
[SPEAKER_02]: And two is, again, I go back to, does prototype and prototyping match, or matter to these guys, or doesn't not.
58:18
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it kind of does.
58:21
[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't think that he's the prototype of exactly what they're looking for.
58:28
[SPEAKER_02]: again another bottle of ketchup.
58:31
[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, that's, that's, that's my, my take on him is in a, in a completely set or as parabas world, all things, you know, set the equal, I would be on to him, a lot.
58:45
[SPEAKER_02]: But I just don't think it's going to be a fit for Miami.
58:49
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
58:49
[SPEAKER_03]: I think we could call it right here.
58:51
[SPEAKER_03]: Next time we talk to you.
58:52
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll be next week.
58:53
[SPEAKER_03]: And we will talk offensive line and defensive line.
58:56
[SPEAKER_03]: Simon, what do you have going on at the low red zone.
58:59
[SPEAKER_03]: Substack.
59:01
[SPEAKER_01]: The sub-stack nothing because I'm so busy trying to finish this draft book, but Carl and I are back tomorrow with our podcast 9 o'clock tomorrow morning.
59:10
[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
59:11
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to be talking about top-bimes at multiple positions, because Carl's son wasn't very well last week.
59:19
[SPEAKER_01]: So we missed a week, but we're going to do wide receivers and tight ends and offensive linemen.
59:25
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, that's what's going down.
59:27
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
59:28
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's no more.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We will talk to you again next week, which should be a pretty involved podcast because plenty of prospects for day one and day two for the Miami dolphins that we won't be talking about next week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But so then thanks for listening to three yards per catty.
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[UNKNOWN]: You