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Hearts Down Under · Girls Gone Hallmark | Hallmark Movie Reviews

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  Speaker 1: Hey everyone, Welcome to Girls Gone Hallmark, a bonus episode
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  Speaker 1: from Long Story Short the podcast.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Megan, Hi, I'm Wendy, and today.
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  Speaker 1: We're discussing Love down Under, a standalone original movie on
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  Speaker 1: the Hallmark Channel. We are in between Spring Fling and
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  Speaker 1: Summer nights, and we've got a handful of standalone movies
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  Speaker 1: that I think they just kind of pull from the
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  Speaker 2: We also love your emails. Oh, I got a little
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  Speaker 2: so send them to us at Meganandwindy at gmail dot com.
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  Speaker 2: And I believe we have a special one today.
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  Speaker 1: We do. I will tell you that I was both
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  Speaker 1: excited and terrified to receive this email. And this email
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  Speaker 1: is from uh oh, listen to me.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, It's contagious through the microphone from.
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  Speaker 1: Twenty miles away. Okay, this email is from Lynda Lisa Hater,
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  Speaker 1: who Hallmark fans will know as a popular Hallmark movie
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  Speaker 1: director and the director of Right in front of Me. Now,
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  Speaker 1: if you listened to last week's episode, we had wonderful
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  Speaker 1: things to say about the movie. It was not a
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  Speaker 1: slam of the movie at all. However, there was a
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  Speaker 1: lot of bleeping in that episode, so welcome. If that
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  Speaker 1: was your first experience with us.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, I am not a perfect so I'm
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  Speaker 2: not a perfect Hallmark woman.
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  Speaker 1: We contain multitudes exactly one thing she said, she popped
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  Speaker 1: in and she said yes to confirm. Two days before
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  Speaker 1: we started filming here in Vancouver, we had an unusual
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  Speaker 1: dump of snow. Our set decorators had been decorating a
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  Speaker 1: patio and barbecue area with flowers and candles in the
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  Speaker 1: pool and lights strewn everywhere, and then the snow started
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  Speaker 1: to have fall. Doesn't usually happen in Vancouver like that,
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  Speaker 1: but it did this time, so they had to pull
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  Speaker 1: everything inside and I was forced to shoot many scenes
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  Speaker 1: inside instead of outside. Doesn't look springing pretty when the
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  Speaker 1: whole place is covered in snow. Hence, yes, a big
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  Speaker 1: chunk of the movie was quickly changed inside. I asked
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  Speaker 1: the props department to quickly find a Jenga game and
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  Speaker 1: croquet mallets, et cetera, to make it look like our
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  Speaker 1: characters do actually go outside, but we couldn't show it
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  Speaker 1: snow which days later dissolved into mud.
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  Speaker 2: Oh jeez.
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  Speaker 1: So we had speculated that there was a reason the
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  Speaker 1: majority of this movie takes place in one room. Be
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  Speaker 1: we knew from Julie Sherman Wolf that there was a
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  Speaker 1: ton of snow in this movie, and so many of
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  Speaker 1: the outdoor scenes were moved in and we suspected that
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  Speaker 1: that impacted quite a bit.
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  Speaker 2: So that's going to be so difficult for a director
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  Speaker 2: who has a vision of what it's going to look
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  Speaker 2: like and then boom, you can't do that, and now
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  Speaker 2: you got to shoot in one room. Yeah, I guess
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  Speaker 2: she did best with what.
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  Speaker 1: She had, You know, absolutely, I can I don't like
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  Speaker 1: plans changing away what like my vision was and not
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  Speaker 1: getting my way. So I can envision myself having like
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  Speaker 1: a frustrated cry on the corner thinking about like all
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  Speaker 1: this snow falling down and ruining my beautiful candles in
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  Speaker 1: the pool scene and outdoorsmores. But I do think they
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  Speaker 1: made it work.
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  Speaker 2: Did she have anything else to say?
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  Speaker 1: She just said thank you and we're lovely. So that
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  Speaker 1: was very nice.
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  Speaker 2: Oh good, that's so nice. Like I was when you
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  Speaker 2: told me that she had wrote us an email, written
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  Speaker 2: us an email? I was like, oh no, what did
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  Speaker 2: I say? I liked that movie. I didn't hate that movie.
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  Speaker 2: Did I say bad things about that movie? Oh my god,
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  Speaker 2: I had totally forgotten that I had said a lot
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  Speaker 2: of like unsavory things about another email.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I did a full body clench when
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  Speaker 1: I saw the email came out, but it was lovely
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  Speaker 1: and of course we do love your emails, so thank
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  Speaker 1: you so much for that, and we welcome additional feedback
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  Speaker 1: about the show. Yeh, this week we're talking about Love
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  Speaker 1: down Under and Wendy, do you have a synopsis?
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  Speaker 2: I do ready, New York Restaurantua. Carolyn inherits a cafe
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  Speaker 2: in Lemon Myrtle Cove, Australia. While there she starts falling
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  Speaker 2: for the place and its people, particularly Simon, the cafes
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  Speaker 2: charming local chef starring Cindy Busby and Tim Ross.
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  Speaker 1: Let's move into some news and notes about this movie.
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  Speaker 2: Mmmm hmm, there's quite a few.
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  Speaker 1: Oh good, I have a couple, Okay, go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: This was filmed on location in Australia, mostly in Queensland.
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  Speaker 2: Some of the village scenes were filmed on the Brisbane
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  Speaker 2: coastline in the suburbs of Shorncliffe and Sandgate, but Lemon
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  Speaker 2: Myrtle Cove is a fictional town.
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  Speaker 1: Indeed, now you might be saying Australia is one of
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  Speaker 1: the countries that has had their COVID Act together and
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  Speaker 1: has not allowed anybody from other countries to come in.
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  Speaker 1: How do they do it? They filmed in twenty nineteen.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, prior to the Apparently Australia has been closed to travelers.
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  Speaker 2: Their borders have been closed since March twenty twenty. I
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  Speaker 2: wasn't aware of that. Okay, I have another news and
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  Speaker 2: note the featured Seagull cafe was actually filmed at a
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  Speaker 2: real cafe called the Hamptons.
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  Speaker 1: I did not know that.
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  Speaker 2: It's so funny because the Hamptons are like a New
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  Speaker 2: York thing, uh huh here in the United States. So
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  Speaker 2: it's funny that Australia has a cafe called the Hamptons.
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  Speaker 2: I wonder what's the relevance there?
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  Speaker 1: If you know, Maan Wendy at gmail dot com.
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  Speaker 2: Do you know the original title of this movie? I do. Indeed,
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  Speaker 2: it was called Romance on the Mad You. It originally
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  Speaker 2: aired on Netflix Australia in twenty twenty. So what we're
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  Speaker 2: looking at here is an acquired movie.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I was gonna say the same thing. That's
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  Speaker 1: very interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Here's my question, and it might be kind of a spoiler.
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  Speaker 2: Why the heck did Hallmark acquire this movie? Because it
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  Speaker 2: was a real stinker.
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  Speaker 1: Is it possible that Hallmark created this movie and sold
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  Speaker 1: it to Netflix Australia for streaming there, and then waited
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  Speaker 1: to put it into their own programming.
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  Speaker 2: Interesting. Interesting, I don't know, I don't know. I need
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  Speaker 2: somebody who'sa on the inside to email us.
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  Speaker 1: And of course, this stars Cindy Busby, who was also
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  Speaker 1: in Chasing Waterfalls, a sprinkling movie that we did not enjoy,
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  Speaker 1: and with that in mind, maybe we jumped to first impression.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, hold on, I have a lot of pages of
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  Speaker 2: notes for this movie. My first impression is what a stinker.
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  Speaker 2: They should have saved their money and showed a rerun
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  Speaker 2: of as luck would have it.
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  Speaker 1: So my first impression is with as many problems as
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  Speaker 1: this movie had, I found myself enjoying it. I don't God, no,
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  Speaker 1: no movie. Oh good mood. Let me set the scene
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  Speaker 1: really quickly. I waited until the very last minute to
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  Speaker 1: watch this movie. And so it's last night at about
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  Speaker 1: seven o'clock and I get out the iPad and I'm
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  Speaker 1: watching the movie, and I was kind of grumpy about it.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, why didn't you start this earlier? It
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  Speaker 1: could have been done anyway, And then found myself the
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  Speaker 1: time flew by. I have a lot of things to
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  Speaker 1: say about the movie. It was not a perfect movie.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't even necessarily a great movie. Not there are
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  Speaker 1: many movies of this year that rank above it.
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  Speaker 2: And yet I.
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  Speaker 1: Still really it was a pleasant two hours.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, we cannot be friends anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Well, did you like anything about this movie?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'd liked some of the IMDb reviews. Can I
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  Speaker 2: read them real quick?
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  Speaker 1: Oh? I read some too, Go ahead, Yeah, one of.
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  Speaker 2: The worst movies I've ever seen, possibly one of the
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  Speaker 2: worst movies of the year. Couldn't even sit through it,
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  Speaker 2: waste of time, truly embarrassing as an Australian.
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  Speaker 1: It was funny to me that a number of the
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  Speaker 1: IMDb comments were about it as an Australian movie. People
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  Speaker 1: were very upset. This is not a good representation of
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  Speaker 1: Australian film. And I gotta tell you, watching this, I
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  Speaker 1: would not have taken this as Oh I didn't like this.
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  Speaker 1: Not gonna like anything the Aussies.
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  Speaker 2: Have to offer, right, No, Matt.
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  Speaker 1: I did think though, that those comments they were taking
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  Speaker 1: it very personally that this look at Australia was not
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  Speaker 1: particularly well done.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm worried that they're like, uh, these Americans put
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  Speaker 2: all their stupid cheese all over our fantastic location and actors.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, did you like anything else about this movie?
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  Speaker 2: I'm scared my notes. I'm scanning my notes. Okay. The
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  Speaker 2: only thing I liked in this movie was the cute
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  Speaker 2: dog in his cute name. Other than that, I hated
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  Speaker 2: everything about it.
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  Speaker 1: I have dispatch on my list of things that I
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  Speaker 1: like as well. I look, I enjoy a movie shot
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  Speaker 1: on location. I thought it had a real summary feel
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  Speaker 1: to it that kind of put me in a good movie,
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  Speaker 1: even though I hate summer. Watching it from my cool
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  Speaker 1: house where it's.
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  Speaker 2: Not hot yet.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, look at their in shorts and it's sunny and
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  Speaker 1: they're on the water. That's making me excited about summer.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. I have a question, though, Yes, did they ever
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  Speaker 2: show in the New York scenes any outdoor because I
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  Speaker 2: can't recall. I only know that she was like in
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  Speaker 2: the kitchen or whatever. They never showed.
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  Speaker 1: Outside, right, No, And I assume that they filmed that
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  Speaker 1: also in Australia.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, on a set or whatever. But I was wondering, like, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: now it makes sense like they didn't show her like
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  Speaker 2: walking outside in New York and it's summer in New
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  Speaker 2: York because it wouldn't be seen summer in Australia. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: that's the point I'm trying to make.
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  Speaker 1: See.
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to see if they showed any outside scenes
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  Speaker 2: while she was in New York.
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  Speaker 1: My memory says no, that it's all inside the restaurant.
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  Speaker 1: And even there's like one scene where she almost walks outside,
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  Speaker 1: but she doesn't. They stand in the doorway.
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  Speaker 2: So and what about at the end when he comes back,
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  Speaker 2: when he comes to New York to see.
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  Speaker 1: Her, They're still in the restaurant.
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  Speaker 2: They're inside, right, Okay, all right, go ahead.
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  Speaker 1: The final thing that I liked about this movie is
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  Speaker 1: Caroline's career arc. We complained last week that sometimes our
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  Speaker 1: characters want too much and they have these perfectly lovely careers,
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  Speaker 1: and the Hallmark writers say, Nope, you need to be more,
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  Speaker 1: you need to want more. And I felt like that
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  Speaker 1: wasn't the case for her, and I felt like she
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  Speaker 1: really found her place, she found her way in this
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  Speaker 1: job that she loved, and I appreciated that in comparison
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  Speaker 1: to what we see happened to some of the other
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  Speaker 1: women in these Hallmark movies.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, that's fair. However, you don't have.
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  Speaker 1: To like the movie. It's okay. Oh, I'm not trying
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  Speaker 1: to convince you.
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  Speaker 2: You don't have to. I'm here to tell you I
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  Speaker 2: hated everything about it. I first of all, I have
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  Speaker 2: watched enough Top Chef and enough Hell's Kitchen to know
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  Speaker 2: that she did not embody an executive chef. So I
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  Speaker 2: here's what tell me more. Here's what it breaks down to.
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  Speaker 2: I think Cindy Busby is not a great actress. I
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  Speaker 2: feel like she doesn't emote on her face. They're at
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  Speaker 2: the end where like he's telling her he loves her
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  Speaker 2: or what he wants to be with her or whatever,
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  Speaker 2: and she just has like the same look on her face,
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  Speaker 2: which always looks like she's smelling a fart. Like it's
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  Speaker 2: never great. It drives me crazy. I don't like Cindy Busby.
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  Speaker 2: I said it.
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  Speaker 1: Look that's fair. I have a non positively expressive face,
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  Speaker 1: like I always look angry and it's not true of
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  Speaker 1: my self, not true smile. But my resting face is
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  Speaker 1: not a hobby face.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's fine. Yes, I have what is it called
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  Speaker 2: rf barbia RBF. Yes, I have that all the time too,
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  Speaker 2: But no, her face like when somebody's talking to you Megan,
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  Speaker 2: I talk to you all the time. I see your
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  Speaker 2: face all the time. You react with your face, even
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  Speaker 2: when you're wearing a MASKT No, exactly. I'm just like,
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  Speaker 2: it's like she's thinking about what her next line is.
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  Speaker 2: She's not reacting to the actor in front of her.
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  Speaker 2: It drives me bananas. So I don't want you to say, like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: I do the same thing. No, you have a reactive,
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  Speaker 2: emoting face.
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  Speaker 1: There's something about her, and I don't know if it's
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  Speaker 1: because I have a positive association with her because of
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  Speaker 1: our experience with We talked about this a lot, but
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  Speaker 1: with an old chow called Date my Dad that was
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  Speaker 1: on ap TV, and I kind of have put that
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  Speaker 1: experience behind rose colored glasses, ycause it's you know, we're
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  Speaker 1: several years out from it. That was not a great
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  Speaker 1: TV show, but I really enjoyed the process of working
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  Speaker 1: on that TV show, and so I think I've kind
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: of like put her and all of the other actors,
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  Speaker 1: some of who I really enjoy, like Maddie Finocchio, I
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  Speaker 1: find highly entertaining. So I think maybe that's my view
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  Speaker 1: of her. I'm like, she's part of this experience that
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  Speaker 1: was very positive for me. And so I give her
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of bonus as a result.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, fine, but I.
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  Speaker 1: Agree with you. She's definitely not my favorite homemark actors.
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  Speaker 2: No, she's not good, not good at all. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying. I don't want to compare. I'm trying to
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  Speaker 2: compare her in Chasing Waterfalls and this movie. Which two
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  Speaker 2: movies I hated. I hated Chasing Waterfalls and I hated
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  Speaker 2: this movie.
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  Speaker 1: But this was better, don't you think. Okay, let's compare
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  Speaker 1: the two. Oh, it works or the same?
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  Speaker 2: I don't remember me. We go back and my note
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  Speaker 2: chare and see what I gave Chasing Waterfalls. Go ahead,
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  Speaker 2: you can go ahead and compare the two.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the only comparison that I would offer is that
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  Speaker 1: my viewing experience was more positive. I found myself in
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  Speaker 1: a better mood watching this. I did buy her relationship
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more in this movie I loved. Both
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  Speaker 1: had great lead actors, So that's not a fair comparison.
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  Speaker 1: But I didn't love the premise of Chasing Waterfalls. There
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  Speaker 1: are a lot of things I didn't like. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: like giving the Waterfalls personality. No, there are things I
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  Speaker 1: didn't like about this movie too. And we'll get into that.
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  Speaker 1: But I did enjoy it more. I don't watch one again.
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  Speaker 1: I would choose this one.
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  Speaker 2: I don't have what my rating was for Chasing Waterfalls,
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  Speaker 2: just that I hated it, so don't I don't remember
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  Speaker 2: what I gave that movie.
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  Speaker 1: And the side characters in this movie are much better
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  Speaker 1: than Chasing Waterfalls. Okay, so you will probably have something
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  Speaker 1: to say about this next section, which is what did
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  Speaker 1: you wish for in this movie?
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  Speaker 2: I wish for a better story, better and better wardrobe.
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  Speaker 1: Oh I liked her shorts wardrobe.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god. Okay, I'm gonna okay, wait, it was
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  Speaker 2: in the digits that but since we're talking about her wardrobe.
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  Speaker 2: Towards the end of the movie, she's wearing a ruffled
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  Speaker 2: like sleeveless shirt with huge belted shorts and these terrible
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  Speaker 2: platform sandals. It's the whole look head to toe is awful,
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  Speaker 2: like they don't go together. It was so bad and
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  Speaker 2: I love I even said it in last week or
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  Speaker 2: the week before, like I love whoever does the costume
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  Speaker 2: for most Hallmark movies because they're so good. This was
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  Speaker 2: so bad.
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  Speaker 1: That's so funny because I know the exact outfit you're discussing,
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  Speaker 1: and I thought, what a cute dressy shorts outfit. I
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  Speaker 1: could not have worn out shorts Cindy Busby's tiny. It
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: would look like I was wearing a diaper if I
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  Speaker 1: were to wear those high waisted, large shorts. But I
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  Speaker 1: enjoyed her shorts. Let me tell you what I wished for. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I wished for a rewrite on the fiance story. We
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  Speaker 1: get that story in reverse. We get a little bit
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  Speaker 1: in the very beginning where the mother is kind of saying,
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  Speaker 1: what about Nathaniel, What about Nathaniel. They have a brief
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  Speaker 1: interaction where it becomes clear that he maybe didn't love
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  Speaker 1: her work on the restaurant. Did we even know that
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  Speaker 1: was her fiance in the beginning?
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  Speaker 2: I don't think so.
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  Speaker 1: And then when he swings by Australia, which is not
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  Speaker 1: a thing that people do, he calls himself her fiance.
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  Speaker 1: And then they have this argument in which she explains
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  Speaker 1: their relationship by yelling at him to the audience when
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  Speaker 1: she's like, you broke off our engagement because I worked
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  Speaker 1: too hard, and now that it's a success, now you
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  Speaker 1: want to get back together with me. I knew that
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  Speaker 1: the Nathaniel piece was going to be something of a
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  Speaker 1: wrench from the beginning because it was kind of this
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  Speaker 1: uncomfortable moment that they had.
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  Speaker 2: But was it even necessary.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's a great question, because we already have, like
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: we needed to have some bit of conflict between Cook
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: and Caroline. Right.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's called an ocean. They live on two separate continents.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: Yes, excellent point, and we already have that. The server
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: in the restaurant, Marla has this idea in her head
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: that Cook is seducing Caroline to get her to save
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: the restaurant, and this is one of those moments where
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: even though he tells her over and over again that's
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: not what's happening, she just believes it, And of course
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: that creates a fifteen second moment of conflict for our characters.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: I don't think we also needed their interruption of the
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: fiance coming in to also further throw a wrench, like
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Marla could have ruined that moment as well if we
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: needed to have, like we have. The fiance comes and
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: then the very next scene we have Caroline overhearing Marla saying,
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: like you tried to seduce her and I didn't. That's
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: not the word she es and it didn't work. And
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: these scenes are back to back, so I think you
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: make a good point. Was the fiance necessary No, I
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: think we get the image that she's a workaholic without
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: him being.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: There, a workaholic with no joy.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: And I would also like to say that I wish
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: that there was less of the dog whining as a
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: plot point.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: I thought the dog was so cute, but like, the
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: dog only needs to be in one scene. It's not
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: the movie is not about the dog, but.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: The dog whins to punctuate so many moments. She's like
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: tapping the photo of her aunt. They're always having conversations
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: with the dog, and the dog is always whining. No,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: we don't need that the dog can be in the scene.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: He doesn't need to be. He doesn't need to have lines.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: It's it's almost like my beef with that with the
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: you know, kookie hokey music that they'll play. You know,
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: it was a lot of that. There was a lot
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: of that in this movie too. But like sometimes it
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: bugs me more in some movies than others, you know,
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: like ooh, ooh, I can't articulate it. And I know
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: that's my point here, my job, but you know what,
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about when the music is telling me I
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: have to pay attention.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Well, we discuss this a little bit, but let's make
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: sure we've touched everything. And we're going on to uh
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: oh roadblocks in the way over our movie couple. And
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: in this case, it's not a roadblock, but it's an ocean.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: And she doesn't live in California. She lives in New York.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: So not only does she have the sixteen hours between
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: California and Australia, but she's got the sixth between New
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: York and California. This sounds like a nightmare.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was so stupid. So like at the end,
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: she's like, you guys could run the cafe and I'll
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: just come and check in a couple times a year,
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Like what Like that is so hard to do. You're
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: just gonna jump on a plane. It's not like you're
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: flying to Las Vegas from California whatever, you know what
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: I mean. It's a bar trip. Have you been to Australia?
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: I can't remember.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: I have not what my husband has.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: I that's like the thought of being on an airplane
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: that long sounds so daunting to me. I agree, So
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: to just like be flippant about it in a movie
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: like I'll just come visit a couple times a year.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: Well, and at the end, he says, I know you
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: live here and I live there, but I feel like
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: we've got to make this work. And I'm like, dude,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: I want a roof for you guys. But she's got to.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Move or he needs to move, right, one of the two.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, come on, sell the damn cafe. It's fine.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Those people will be fine.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Right, I know, why oh why could she not just
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: I don't know, like, why could she not just give
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: it to them? Why could she?
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: I don't like she did. I don't just give it? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: she inherited this cafe.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: Just give it.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Turnover ownership to Tim Ross whatever. That guy's name was,
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Cooked Simon whatever. Yeah she whatever. Oh my god, I'm
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: so fired up about a stupid ass movie.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: Well, and we know that the cafe does not make
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: a lot of money, so keeping it is not really
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: at a big advantage to her, and she spends alar savings.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: Okay, dumb.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: The other roadblocks are Caroline's fake fiance returns, and Cook
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: is accused of faking his affection for her, and of
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: course Caroline wants to sell the restaurant and put everyone
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: out of a job. Yeah, is there nowhere else to
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: work in this tiny.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Little tail right exactly, there's.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: And I can understand that, right, like you don't necessarily
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: want to come in and when their lives by selling.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: But this is I think a case where it makes
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: a lot of sense. Like you said, she lives on
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: the other side of the planet. It is not necessarily
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: reasonable for her to hang onto this business. Let's go
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: to Did you see that.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: I talked about? My dis just sees that, So go ahead.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: Oh you're done? Yeah, all right, here you go, you ready? Yeah,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna start on a positive note. Either was a
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: line that I really liked when she Caroline says, don't
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: you get tired of seeing the same people every day?
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: And Cook says, I wasn't expecting you. Okay. There's a
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: scene where she brings cook iced tea, and there is
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: a distinct sound of ice clinking in the iced tea,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: and it is that sound is used to great effect.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: There's no ice in the iced a. There's a lemon
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: in there. There's no ice, certainly not the amount of
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: ice that would be clinking, clinking, all the way as
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: she hands it to him on the roof. No, no, okay,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: there is an image that they use multiple times in
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: her restaurant in New York, and that is the image
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: of the three heads stacked peeking out around the curtain. Now,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: does anybody do this anywhere by d in television? Like
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: all go low, you go high? No?
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: There is a line flub in this movie that they kept.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Did you catch it?
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: No?
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Now, I have many comments about this scene. And this
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: is the food fight scene, which is the driest food
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: fight I've ever seen. I'm like, there's not an egg,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: there's not a Mayo tub in there. It's all dry
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: goods that you're throwing at each other. And I think
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: the reason they kept this line flub is because this
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: is at the point where they had started throwing flowers,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: so things were starting to stick to them and make
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: a mess. And she says, and you looks at me
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: like that. And it was in the close captioning, and
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: I reroound to make sure, and it was supposed to
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: say and you look at me like that. It's very
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: clear that she's supposed that. She says, and you look
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: sick me like that, And they just kept going because
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: that's a lot of cleanup, no budget for reshooting that scene.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: In the final scene with I don't understand what's happening
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: or these reviewers. Was this like a fake Michelin Star situation?
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: They're taking their fancy smoky dessert out. Yeah, they put
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: them on two entirely different dessert plates. Oh really, like
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: they're not even One has like a super high ridge
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: like a rim that comes straight upwards, and the other
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: one's flat. It was they weren't even remotely similar. That
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: seemed odd to me. And finally, the hand drawn map.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Did you see the hand drawn map?
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: No, I don't think I watched it that closely.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: So when she arrives in Australia, now this is a
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: scene that somebody could come back and explain to me,
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: because Cook is talking to Caroline and he's like, the
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: restaurants that way, and the town's that way, and it
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: it is possible that he said, oh, and I left
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: you a map in the cottage, but I don't know,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: and I remember being mildly distracted. And then she walks
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: out of the cottage and she's holding an eight and
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: a half by eleven piece of paper with a hand
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: drawn map of the town on it. And I don't
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: know if he had said that he had left a map,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: or if this is their town map that someone drew
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: on a piece of print or paper with hand drawn
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: little houses to represent the building. I don't know which
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: one of those things is true. And that's all I
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: have for digit see that, which means it's time for
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: the ratings. And I think you might be surprised by
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: what I rate this movie, but you should go first.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: I gave it half a star for Spatch.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Well, I do think you rated this lower than you
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: rated Chasing Waterfalls. This is a two point twenty five
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: star for me.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Oh my god.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't actively seek it out to rewatch it. I
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: did find myself happy watching it.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: No, I hated it. I wanted to give it a zero.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: I hate Can we do that?
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: Of course?
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well it's it gets half a star because I
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: thought Spatch short for Spatula, was a very clever, cute
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: name for a dog.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: I agree. Now next week we have another standalone movie,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: and this movie is going to be very stressful for
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: me to watch. This movie is called Baby It's Cold Inside,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: and it takes place in an ice hotel and this
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: is not our first Palmark movie in an ice hotel,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: and ice hotels give me extreme anxiety. Why well, because
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: it's ice and ice.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Ice is scary because.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: It collapses on you, Oh my god. And then they
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: have irrational fears. Go ahead, have irrational fears. That doesn't
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: sound fun to me. What if the giant block of
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: ice comes loose because it's warmer outside than they anticipate
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: that it's going to be and crashes in on me.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: I Nope, doesn't looks very pretty, though I actually did
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: think the previews made it look like a funny movie,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: so fingers crossed. That's not just clever editing.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: I think it looks terrible. Oh no, yeah, yeah. I
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: can't get excited for the standalones because now I have
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: watched enough Hallmark this year to know that the standalones
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: are a dud. If they can't get them into like
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: a seasonal lineup, they're dead to be.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Except except that on May fifteenth we have Sweet Carolina,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: which stars Lacy Shape and Tyler Hyens, and that those
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: are two powerhouse Hallmark movie actors, So crossing my fingers
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: for that one. Yeah, we'll see all right, friends. We
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: will of course be back next Thursday discussing baby It's
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Cold Inside, and before that, we be back on Tuesday
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: with our regular weekly episodes that we would love for
• 28:40
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• 28:45
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• 28:48
  Speaker 1: week everybody. Goodbye, bye guys,