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Rekindle or Go Our Separate Ways with Brian Autz and Parisa Shifteh · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 1: So before I get to the Paradise chat, I just
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Speaker 1: want to shout out to our hotel that we're staying
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Speaker 1: at the Portafino Hotel and Marina. At the Portafino Hotel
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Speaker 1: and Marina and Redondo Beach, every moment comes with a
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Speaker 1: paddle boards and complimentary bikes for a scenic coast to ride.
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Speaker 1: Then return to the hotel's living room, where the Portafino
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Speaker 1: Pores self served tap wall invites you to unwind and
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Speaker 1: soak in a breath taking coastal sunset. Discover your seaside
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Speaker 1: escape at the Portafino Hotel and Marina. Okay, let's dive
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Speaker 1: back into the Bachelor in Paradise Reunion.
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Speaker 2: This is the almost Famous podcast with iHeartRadio.
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Speaker 3: Guys, Almost Famous podcast.
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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being here, Brian and Parisa,
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Speaker 1: thank you so I want to I want to say
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Speaker 1: this first of all, love the new look.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I love where you're going with this a lot
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Speaker 4: of shade. I figured I'll just stay in.
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Speaker 1: The embraces, keep the hat, keep the hat, keep the
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Speaker 1: glasses on. So Parisa, you roll into Paradise. First of all,
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Speaker 1: let's point out something here. Parisa is a fellow Detroiter. Yes,
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Speaker 1: represent represent So I'm gonna make sure I take care
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Speaker 1: of you in this interview. Okay, But I do have
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Speaker 1: a goal for this interview, and I'm going to state
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Speaker 1: it right up front. I really want you guys back together.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna figure it out. I'm getting to the bottom
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Speaker 1: of this today and I'm creating. I'm renewing a love connection. Okay,
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Speaker 1: because I liked you guys. There's a couple on the show.
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Speaker 1: So when Parisa and Ali Joe roll into the Paradise.
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Speaker 3: Island, it is like a James Bond movie.
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Speaker 1: Right, you guys are coming in, And I remember I
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Speaker 1: laughed about this out loud.
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Speaker 3: I'm like, dude, Brian's head was on a swivel.
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Speaker 1: It was just like a media like honest to god,
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Speaker 1: and it was like what And it was probably saying
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Speaker 1: what we were all thinking at home, like who in
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Speaker 1: the hell is this? Where are they coming from what
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Speaker 1: is going on, and you guys just sort of took
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Speaker 1: the island by storm, scared the hell out of everyone
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Speaker 1: that was already there, right. I think you were one
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Speaker 1: of the first like new uh well you were the
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Speaker 1: first new women that came out.
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Speaker 3: Of the other anywhere.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and and so it just sort of like just
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Speaker 1: really sent some ripples right through the through the beach
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Speaker 1: obviously created a whole storyline for our boy Brian here.
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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, you were just getting shredded.
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Speaker 1: But I mean it has to be it has to
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Speaker 1: be interesting because part of the beauty of Bachelor in
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Speaker 1: Paradise is that people go there to make love connections
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Speaker 1: and meet each other and everything, but there are also
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Speaker 1: always new people coming, and so it's like, yes, you
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Speaker 1: want to get to know the people that are there,
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Speaker 1: but if someone comes in that is more your speed,
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Speaker 1: right You You either have to make it, you have
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Speaker 1: to make a choice. Someone's either going to get their
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Speaker 1: feelings hurt or you know whatever. And Brian, I mean
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Speaker 1: you you kind of really drew a line in the sand.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys notice why I did
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Speaker 1: their island and you do a line of the sand
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Speaker 1: right away you're like, okay, uh hi, Prisa, I'm Brian.
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Speaker 1: I mean it was immediate for you, it wasn't it.
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Speaker 4: It was paradise paradise, And like, I don't understand what
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Speaker 4: people don't understand about that, right. It's we're in week
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Speaker 4: two and it's like opportunities are open, and like people
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Speaker 4: that are getting locked down immediately, like god bless Spencer
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Speaker 4: and Jess you know, lockdown immedia and love it first sight.
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Speaker 4: But aside from that, like like this isn't like let's
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Speaker 4: explore our options here, right, Yeah, So I didn't really
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Speaker 4: understand you know, the viewers' comments so to speak, right,
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Speaker 4: but you know, it's it's our own journey and we
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Speaker 4: have to live.
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Speaker 1: It, right. Yeah.
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Speaker 5: I made sure too, Like I knew, you know, stepping
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Speaker 5: foot onto that beach that there were probably already relationships established,
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Speaker 5: and so that was my mindset of you know, like
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Speaker 5: I'm gonna kind of scope everything out. I don't want
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Speaker 5: to go after someone who's like really locked in, like Spencer,
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Speaker 5: like that's no point there. But I I kind of
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Speaker 5: wanted to allow Brian to handle all of that because
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Speaker 5: it's like not I know, I'm sorry, Like it's not
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Speaker 5: my place to like now be the third one in,
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Speaker 5: you know, their personal conversation of like, okay, so what's up,
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Speaker 5: Like how's this going? You know, like I wanted him
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Speaker 5: to take care of all of that that was his
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Speaker 5: it was your business, yeah, you know, yeah, and then
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Speaker 5: just see what came next out of it.
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Speaker 3: You know, I think that.
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's almost the only way you can handle it, right,
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Speaker 1: Like what are you gonna do? Go walking over to
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Speaker 1: Zoe and be like, Hi, I'm here now, Yeah, you're
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Speaker 1: gonna do that, I know.
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Speaker 6: And I was actually like watching everything back.
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Speaker 5: I remember you when Ellie Joe and I stepped onto
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Speaker 5: the beach, you know, we're kind of like talking everybody,
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Speaker 5: and then we get pulled into a conversation with Zoe
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Speaker 5: and actually, yeah, and you know we're talking, we're asking like,
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Speaker 5: what's you know low down here?
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Speaker 6: Fill us in?
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Speaker 5: And it was funny because before going into that conversation,
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Speaker 5: I had spoken Ellie Joe. I'm like, you know, I
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Speaker 5: have my eye on Brian. I think he's really cute.
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Speaker 5: I want to get to know him.
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Speaker 6: What about you, Ellie Joe? And she was like, oh,
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Speaker 6: you know, I don't know yet.
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Speaker 5: Maybe Dale, maybe Jonathan and I'm like, okay. So we
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Speaker 5: go into the com versation and the first thing is
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Speaker 5: always like yeah, like I'm talking to Brian and Dale
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Speaker 5: and then I look at Eli Joe and I'm like, oh, wonderful.
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Speaker 1: But didn't she take it one step for like, so
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Speaker 1: stay away from them, Yeah, don't touch.
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Speaker 5: And I look and then she goes, who are you
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Speaker 5: girls looking at? And I look at l Joe mcking nobody.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, don't what.
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Speaker 1: Are you going to do?
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Speaker 7: I'm like, there's just no reaction to her. Was hilarious.
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Speaker 7: You and Ali Joe both are.
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Speaker 3: Like, yeah, yeah, it was such good.
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Speaker 1: You know. The union that's our franchise is that the
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Speaker 1: fact that is like the single greatest editor editors in
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Speaker 1: the world and they produce for Romance so well. So
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Speaker 1: I mean they always have, you know, and it's like
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Speaker 1: one of those things it's like, oh, so stay away
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Speaker 1: from my man.
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Speaker 3: It's like all of a sudden, it's like.
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Speaker 1: Oh, okay, you know, yeah, I'm not going to do
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Speaker 1: anything here on the beach, right.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So did you guys feel an instant connection like with
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Speaker 1: the two of you just it seemed like you did,
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Speaker 1: like you almost kind of like gravitated to right and
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Speaker 1: that then you went on that date right where you
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Speaker 1: were like like the bar games that was pretty hot.
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Speaker 7: That was awesome Games, well was it was?
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Speaker 6: Actually, it was so funny. The car ride to the date.
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Speaker 5: I guess we weren't supposed to be left unsupervised.
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Speaker 3: And that goal the entire time.
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Speaker 6: We just talked the whole time.
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Speaker 5: I'm not getting to know him, not thinking like, oh,
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Speaker 5: we should probably save this or on camera during the date.
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Speaker 6: But I mean we had an hour an.
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Speaker 5: Hour in the car getting to know each other and
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Speaker 5: I'm finding out so much like he loves music, I
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Speaker 5: love to sing, and I'm like, oh my god, wow,
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Speaker 5: And it was amazing. Then we get to the date
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Speaker 5: and we're having fun, and then you know, we're set
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Speaker 5: at a table to talk and I'm like, I already
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Speaker 5: know him.
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Speaker 6: I love this. This is like I don't know what
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Speaker 6: I like.
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Speaker 5: I don't know, like I had my mind made up
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Speaker 5: already at that point, but everybody was off camera.
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Speaker 7: It was a great car ride.
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Speaker 4: We went over like so much and it was already
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Speaker 4: like we were just like connected.
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Speaker 7: Already on the car ride.
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Speaker 3: Well it's not your fault.
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Speaker 1: They didn't film it, right, I mean, maybe they just knew,
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Speaker 1: like I know, that there's something here, right, and so
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Speaker 1: we're going.
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Speaker 3: To keep minding this because I think that's good.
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Speaker 1: So, you know, I I noticed today just to kind
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Speaker 1: of let let the cat out of the bag. Earlier today,
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Speaker 1: you guys said that you weren't currently together, and you said,
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Speaker 1: you know, I think I think Parsa said it very nicely.
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Speaker 3: You said, well, life just kind of got in the way, right,
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Speaker 3: And I get it.
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Speaker 1: I mean, Brian, you've been pretty candid about the fact
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Speaker 1: that you were kind of fully invested in your restaurant
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Speaker 1: and getting that off the ground and and everything, and
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Speaker 1: that can take a lot of time.
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Speaker 3: I mean, the restaurant industry is no easy feet.
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Speaker 7: It's awful, man.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but but you know, it's what you love to do,
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Speaker 1: and and you know, so there's gonna be those times.
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Speaker 1: Since you've been back here, I mean you had to sit,
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Speaker 1: like you know, I think the chairs might have been
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Speaker 1: a quarter of an inch apart all day, right, you
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Speaker 1: guys sat there for several hours. I mean I forced
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Speaker 1: you to sit really close on this couch. Is this
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Speaker 1: something that makes you, guys kind of feel a little reconnected?
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Speaker 1: I mean, is there anything that you've like you noticed that,
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Speaker 1: you know, oh yeah, these are things I really liked
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Speaker 1: about him that maybe you know, got a little off kilter,
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Speaker 1: you know, after being in feathers and stuff on a
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Speaker 1: whole day and a long day for everybody.
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Speaker 3: But I mean, it was it ever like that moment
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Speaker 3: where you're like, you actually do.
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Speaker 1: Have fun with this guy, and and where you're thinking, man,
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Speaker 1: you know this is this is a lot of fun.
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Speaker 3: I enjoy spending time with her.
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Speaker 4: We we went about four weeks without speaking, Yeah, and
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Speaker 4: we saw each other last night and the lobby and
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Speaker 4: she wouldn't make eye contacts with me.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, And I was like, let me play it for
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Speaker 7: a chat.
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Speaker 1: It could have been hard because you can't see your
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Speaker 1: eyes with those damn shades, do you know? She doesn't. No,
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Speaker 1: So so it was like you got so you you
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Speaker 1: you kind of you. You just decided to just saddle
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Speaker 1: up and be like, hey, can we please talk?
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Speaker 7: It had to be done.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's like once we started talking to each
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Speaker 4: other again, it was like like now, like I totally
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Speaker 4: realized why I was attracted to this person and why
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Speaker 4: I had a connection with this person. And a piece
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Speaker 4: of it said and a piece of it is very
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Speaker 4: very real.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I can see how Like in paradise it
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Speaker 5: is such a fixed environment where you don't have any
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Speaker 5: of the outside noise to get in the way.
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Speaker 7: Yep.
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Speaker 5: So like in a perfect world, you have paradise to
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Speaker 5: build that foundation in the relationship and then afterwards you
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Speaker 5: take it outside and then you allow it to grow
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Speaker 5: even more in.
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Speaker 3: The real world.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 5: But I guess in our circumstance, it was just the
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Speaker 5: different schedules his career, my career. It was just all
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Speaker 5: so much, and then on top of that the long
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Speaker 5: distance where it just was not the right environment for
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Speaker 1: in Paradise for a couple of weeks there and it
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Speaker 1: wasn't the easiest.
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Speaker 3: Time for Brian, right.
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Speaker 1: I mean, every time you turned around, you know you're
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Speaker 1: kind of stepping into it a little bit, not necessarily
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Speaker 1: as a viewer. So you were doing the right thing
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Speaker 1: sometimes and you're getting grief for it, you know, And
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Speaker 1: so in those circumstances that probably made it hard for
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Speaker 1: you guys too, because there's like conflict and you're hearing
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Speaker 1: about it and he's feeling attacked, I'm sure at times,
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Speaker 1: and it's like, what the hell can I I can't
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Speaker 1: do anything right? You know, And granted I get it,
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Speaker 1: there can be personalities that you'll come into play, but
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Speaker 1: now having some time to look back on it and
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Speaker 1: spending time like you are here where it's sort of
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Speaker 1: a little lighter, not as aggressive. Five hundred grand's not
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Speaker 1: up for grabs, you know, there's not people getting engaged
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Speaker 1: all over the place. I mean, I feel like I
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Speaker 1: sense that there's a connection here. I'm just saying I
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Speaker 1: feel like, perhaps, you know Detroits in New York.
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Speaker 3: I did that. I did that for three years with
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Speaker 3: a relationship.
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Speaker 1: And I'm just gonna say, you know, it ended up
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Speaker 1: working out all right, you know, And then I did
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Speaker 1: you tried to La even worse.
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Speaker 7: It's terrible.
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Speaker 5: Yes, when it's the right person, you have those feelings
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Speaker 5: for them, you will do anything to make it work.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but sometimes you got to go through challenges to
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Speaker 1: get to the other side to realize that right person
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Speaker 1: might be right under your nose. I'm just saying, Okay,
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Speaker 1: enough about my pontificating here.
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Speaker 3: So I thought it was interesting tonight when we were
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Speaker 3: in the.
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Speaker 1: Earlier interviews and stuff where Kathy where Brian you you
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Speaker 1: got a little fired up a cat right, and you said, uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, you basically said to her, You're like, you know, well,
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Speaker 1: if it wasn't about the money, why'd you vote us off? Right?
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Speaker 1: And I thought it was really interesting because I love
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Speaker 1: Kathy and Keith like I adore them. I've done a
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Speaker 1: ton of events with them, interviewed them both a billion times,
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Speaker 1: and I loved Kathy's kind of she has like a maternal,
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Speaker 1: you know, nurturing thing for you. And it was interesting
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Speaker 1: cause I asked her earlier, I said, you know, well
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Speaker 1: that when that popped up, you know, what was that
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Speaker 1: all about? Because we didn't really see that on camera,
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Speaker 1: you know, And she even said she's like, She's like, well,
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Speaker 1: I thought that if they got out of that environment
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Speaker 1: that they might be able to make it work. She's like,
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Speaker 1: because I did like certain things about their relationship. And
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Speaker 1: so when you got Kathy's vote of confidence, I mean,
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Speaker 1: you know, you got another.
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Speaker 7: Stuff in there.
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Speaker 1: But I think it's really sweet that you guys see
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Speaker 1: and you guys gave each other a big hug out there,
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Speaker 1: and like, we're so excited. She was crying when she
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Speaker 1: saw you. I mean, there's something special for you too
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Speaker 1: as a friend.
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Speaker 3: Isn't there.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, when we keep in touch, we talk all the time,
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Speaker 5: even during that time in Paradise when all this was happening,
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Speaker 5: Like she was telling me way before the voting, And
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Speaker 5: I'm not sure. I don't know if I've shared all
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Speaker 5: of this with you during that time there, but I was.
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Speaker 5: I would go to her all the time, and I
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Speaker 5: would vent to her.
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Speaker 6: I would ask for advice.
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Speaker 5: She knew I wasn't doing well, and I told her too,
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Speaker 5: I mean me personally, I didn't sign up for this paradise.
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Speaker 5: I sign up for the old paradise. I wanted that
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Speaker 5: time alone on the beach, at the possible engagement at
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Speaker 5: the end. And so now with the money mixed in
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Speaker 5: and the stress of voting, I couldn't take it. I
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Speaker 5: really couldn't do it anymore. And I told her, I'm like,
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Speaker 5: I'm not here for the money. I love the challenges.
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Speaker 5: The challenges I thought were so good for us because
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Speaker 5: we worked together, and it just also like again I
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Speaker 5: kept saying, it shed all these layers for us.
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Speaker 3: And I wanted you to be a good team too.
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Speaker 3: You know you really did.
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Speaker 5: It was so it was so funny. The challenge is
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Speaker 5: something the walkie talkie want.
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Speaker 6: I thought that was so hilarious.
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Speaker 7: We were very patient with each other.
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Speaker 6: We're very patient.
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Speaker 3: Well, I heard working half the time, and we caught
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Speaker 3: onto that.
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Speaker 6: Quick, and so I would be I would the whole
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Speaker 6: Bangal thing. I was like, Bengal be as in, boy.
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Speaker 4: Bengal, what are you talking about?
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Speaker 7: I got it?
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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, Bangel, Okay, so you learned something new.
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Speaker 5: It was hilarious and like I totally forgot that that
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Speaker 5: challenge was timed.
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Speaker 6: And then they're like, okay, times up.
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Speaker 5: I'm like, oh we were times Like I totally it
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Speaker 5: was just so much fun.
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Speaker 7: We did have so much fun.
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Speaker 5: So I wish Paradise, the whole promise of it. I
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Speaker 5: wish it changed. I wish it was just the challenges
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Speaker 5: to bring us closer and you know, to overcome obstacles
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Speaker 5: together instead of the whole voting.
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Speaker 6: The voting that that's stress. That was just horrible.
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Speaker 5: And but yeah, I told all that to Kathy, and
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Speaker 5: I told her that like, I can't take it.
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Speaker 6: I can't do it anymore. I don't want the money.
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Speaker 5: And but that was again there's other couples that are
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Speaker 5: there for the money, and they are there for all
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Speaker 5: of that. So she told me, she was like, you know,
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Speaker 5: like I see something between you guys, and this environment
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Speaker 5: here might break you.
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Speaker 1: It s could be caustic, right, I mean, some of
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Speaker 1: those moments can like fuse people together and some of
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Speaker 1: them can split them apart. It might have nothing to
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Speaker 1: do with what you could have outside of that environment.
16:21
Speaker 1: You know, it's just saying, guys, just one more time
16:24
Speaker 1: and then and the thing on the head there, So
16:29
Speaker 1: to that point, you know, when you're talking about the voting.
16:31
Speaker 1: I remember this episode or the scene of the episode,
16:33
Speaker 1: which I thought was hysterical by the way, when Sean
16:36
Speaker 1: is out there throwing together the Parliament paradise and it
16:40
Speaker 1: looked like Brian, it looked like you were from like
16:43
Speaker 1: me to Easton like five feet away, and he's like,
16:45
Speaker 1: so here's a deal. We're going to vote off Brian
16:47
Speaker 1: Frieze and You're like, I'm like, does he not see
16:50
Speaker 1: him there? But the way that was shot, I'm like what.
16:56
Speaker 6: And I'm like, whoa, no, no, yeah.
16:58
Speaker 3: I mean it was kind of shot sucking.
17:00
Speaker 1: How close he you seemed like you were like it
17:03
Speaker 1: looked like you were totally listening in.
17:04
Speaker 7: I was from Oh God.
17:07
Speaker 3: So it wasn't as it was as bad as I
17:09
Speaker 3: thought it.
17:10
Speaker 5: A few times. It wasn't just that scene. It happened
17:12
Speaker 5: a few times with him.
17:14
Speaker 7: Come take a walk with me.
17:15
Speaker 6: Yeah.
17:16
Speaker 3: No, I loved it.
17:16
Speaker 4: I loved him talking to him and he's just lying
17:19
Speaker 4: to my face and I'm like, I love it.
17:20
Speaker 3: They're flashing back.
17:21
Speaker 4: He's like, no, yeah, Brian, Yeah, not much I could
17:27
Speaker 4: really do about it.
17:28
Speaker 1: Well, you know, we talked about that a little bit
17:30
Speaker 1: tonight too. I think, you know, Parsa, you could tell
17:33
Speaker 1: that you were you. You had some things you wanted
17:36
Speaker 1: to say tonight, and you said them without creating more conflict,
17:42
Speaker 1: which I think is a pretty interesting, remarkable trait. Right.
17:46
Speaker 1: It's like, and I think also Brian, you in particular, Uh,
17:51
Speaker 1: there were a couple of moments where I'm sure you
17:53
Speaker 1: wanted to fly off the handle, and you know, I mean,
17:55
Speaker 1: come on, you're in New Yorker, buddy, New Yorkers in
17:57
Speaker 1: Detroiter's were we're not that far apart, but action times
18:00
Speaker 1: on things, and but you held it back too, And
18:04
Speaker 1: I'm interested if if that was something that you liked
18:07
Speaker 1: seeing in him when he you know, because I'm sure
18:09
Speaker 1: there were some buttons that you knew were being pressed
18:11
Speaker 1: by things. Some people were saying he didn't take the bait,
18:14
Speaker 1: which you know can happen. Was that something that you
18:17
Speaker 1: found to be a redeeming quality because I know, like
18:20
Speaker 1: you guys said, you didn't talk for like a month
18:21
Speaker 1: and then you came in here and reconnect.
18:23
Speaker 6: Yeah. Well he did that a lot too. During our
18:25
Speaker 6: time on the show.
18:26
Speaker 5: There were moments where he would get really upset and
18:29
Speaker 5: he would just like hurl his lip.
18:32
Speaker 1: Yeah.
18:32
Speaker 6: I could hear him.
18:33
Speaker 3: Swallow and then his tongue.
18:35
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I could tell, like we would talk about it,
18:39
Speaker 5: you know, things that bothered him. And but yeah, I've
18:42
Speaker 5: always acknowledged that and praised him for you know, that composure,
18:48
Speaker 5: And yeah, you did it again today, and you know
18:51
Speaker 5: it's you brought up you know, like avoiding conflict. It's
18:54
Speaker 5: something that it's sad that in today's world, it's like
18:58
Speaker 5: we avoid bringing up something that bothers us because we
19:02
Speaker 5: do not want the conflict right, and when we feel
19:07
Speaker 5: this need to, it's like, okay, I have to move
19:09
Speaker 5: on from this. I have to bring it up. All
19:11
Speaker 5: that it does is just create more complex.
19:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, make sure the villain all of a sudden, Yes
19:15
Speaker 1: you said that tonight. Yeah, yeah, I thought that was
19:16
Speaker 1: really eloquent said.
19:18
Speaker 6: During the show like I did.
19:19
Speaker 5: I had, you know, some moments where I wanted to
19:22
Speaker 5: speak up so much, like it was killing me. But
19:25
Speaker 5: then I'm like, well then I'm just going to be
19:27
Speaker 5: made at the aggressor, so why even speak up? Like
19:29
Speaker 5: I'm capable of brushing things under the rug and moving on,
19:32
Speaker 5: so why why don't I just do that?
19:34
Speaker 2: Then?
19:35
Speaker 1: Yeah?
19:35
Speaker 6: And then in the end though.
19:37
Speaker 5: When I start seeing how things are played back, then
19:39
Speaker 5: it's like, Okay, I just silenced myself to keep peace.
19:42
Speaker 6: Is that worth it?
19:43
Speaker 1: Is? That is?
19:45
Speaker 3: Yeah?
19:45
Speaker 6: Is that worth it?
19:46
Speaker 3: Especially if you're carrying it with you.
19:47
Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, when you have to watch
19:49
Speaker 1: the show back and you see how it's edited, and
19:51
Speaker 1: you know, there's, like I always used to say, when
19:53
Speaker 1: people be like, oh, well you.
19:54
Speaker 3: Got a good at it.
19:54
Speaker 1: That's why everyone you know thinks you're so nice, I'm like, well,
19:57
Speaker 1: if I didn't say stuff, they couldn't use it.
19:59
Speaker 7: Right.
19:59
Speaker 3: It wasn't that I I didn't think it. It's just
20:01
Speaker 3: I didn't say it, you know.
20:03
Speaker 1: And so there's a certain part of that I'm sure
20:04
Speaker 1: plays into that, especially on a show like this that,
20:07
Speaker 1: let's be honest, this this, this, this new format of
20:10
Speaker 1: Veteran in Paradise was put together I think to create
20:13
Speaker 1: more tension. Yeah right, I mean, you know who we
20:16
Speaker 1: cann't write it does when you introduce money, you introduce
20:18
Speaker 1: these contests that you know, and then and then you're
20:21
Speaker 1: in a situation where it's like, all of a sudden
20:22
Speaker 1: you're looking at each other like, oh my god, do
20:25
Speaker 1: I want the money? Do I want this person?
20:26
Speaker 3: I don't know?
20:27
Speaker 1: And there's there's that element that I think is pretty fascinating.
20:30
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think there's a.
20:31
Speaker 1: Lot to think about there. But I thought you guys
20:34
Speaker 1: handled yourself very well.
20:35
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21:17
Speaker 1: it's probably you're sick of talking about it, but the
21:20
Speaker 1: tweet that started World War iree, it seemed out there
21:24
Speaker 1: tonight for the conversation when about the whole you bringing
21:28
Speaker 1: up to Zoe the whole thing or the Bailey rather
21:32
Speaker 1: sort you brought up to Bailey what Jeremy had said
21:35
Speaker 1: about Susie, right, and that became kind of a big thing.
21:38
Speaker 1: And then it seemed like there was a lot of
21:40
Speaker 1: lobbing back and forth, and to that point, Brian didn't
21:43
Speaker 1: say a word about it. You sat there tonight like silent,
21:46
Speaker 1: while the other two parties were kind of going at it.
21:49
Speaker 3: Why was that?
21:50
Speaker 4: So It's like when something like that occurs, it's like,
21:53
Speaker 4: let them speak up first, digest it, and then you
21:57
Speaker 4: could respond. Yeah, And I just watched them where Bailey
22:00
Speaker 4: went after Alex and then she went after Andrew, and
22:04
Speaker 4: then Kat got involved, and it's like, okay, now you
22:07
Speaker 4: see how they're getting involved. It's funny because when we're
22:09
Speaker 4: at the Row ceremony, none of you people were even
22:12
Speaker 4: spoken about the number one target, and she was my
22:15
Speaker 4: number one attorney defending me and my partner defending me
22:19
Speaker 4: throughout the and that's why then I spoke up afterwards
22:22
Speaker 4: and I'm like, it's interesting how this energy has now
22:24
Speaker 4: shifted after viewership has watched this back and shown you
22:28
Speaker 4: all that you guys.
22:29
Speaker 7: Are wrong, right, Yeah, and now you.
22:31
Speaker 4: Guys are pointing fingers at people that Kat said twenty
22:34
Speaker 4: four hours. You guys have known this for ten, twelve,
22:36
Speaker 4: fourteen days. What was going on? Yeah, and no one
22:40
Speaker 4: spoke up about it, and now you're all turning on
22:41
Speaker 4: each other in front of us right now at the reunion.
22:44
Speaker 7: I'm just gonna sit back and watch And I was
22:45
Speaker 7: literally didn't joke.
22:47
Speaker 4: I was like, I'm just gonna sit back and watch
22:49
Speaker 4: this and not say a word but I'm gonna chime
22:51
Speaker 4: in afterwards and be like where was this energy then?
22:54
Speaker 4: When I became target number one and her and I
22:56
Speaker 4: were like literally on the chopping block for like three
22:58
Speaker 4: ceremonies in a row after and it's like, oh, we
23:01
Speaker 4: can't trust them, we can't trust them.
23:02
Speaker 7: Trust me about what? Like what do you guys have
23:05
Speaker 7: to hide? Like there's you know what I mean?
23:06
Speaker 3: Like I'm the ones interesting, right, It was.
23:09
Speaker 4: Like I'm not a snitch around a rat like whatever
23:11
Speaker 4: you want to call it, Like, I'm Bailey is like
23:13
Speaker 4: an amazing person. She's the most well rounded, probably the
23:16
Speaker 4: most well rounded individual out of our entire group. I
23:19
Speaker 4: think a lot of people would say that about her.
23:21
Speaker 4: So I just the energy shift.
23:25
Speaker 7: I just had to watch it.
23:26
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was interesting to watch talking what's
23:31
Speaker 3: going on? He was like public good.
23:34
Speaker 7: To watch because I'm like, I don't even think I've
23:37
Speaker 7: ever been.
23:38
Speaker 4: In a more intense moment that Rose ceremony because I
23:42
Speaker 4: walked into it thinking was like, you know, something might
23:45
Speaker 4: happen tonight, like because of what I said. But it
23:47
Speaker 4: was intense, like Andrew attacking me, Spencer attacked me them,
23:51
Speaker 4: like judging our relationship without contact. Even Spencer I mentioned it, like,
23:54
Speaker 4: you know, it's twelve things, twelve roomors said, Oh day,
23:56
Speaker 4: I don't know which one's true. Well, that night you
23:58
Speaker 4: knew every single one which was true, which was not true,
24:00
Speaker 4: And he was just assuming everything even when he was
24:03
Speaker 4: saying and portraying today he was guilty of in that
24:06
Speaker 4: moment during that row ceremony, which he did kind of
24:09
Speaker 4: pay homage and like respect me. Later he's like, listen,
24:12
Speaker 4: takes so much heat that night.
24:13
Speaker 1: Idea.
24:14
Speaker 7: Yeah, that like I got to give you a lot
24:15
Speaker 7: of respect.
24:16
Speaker 3: You never got defensive, right, and.
24:19
Speaker 1: That's that's not an easy thing to do, right. I
24:20
Speaker 1: mean I get defensive about everything. I mean, looking at me,
24:25
Speaker 1: call me fat.
24:27
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I thought.
24:27
Speaker 1: I thought it's gotta be hard because I've had a
24:30
Speaker 1: situation in my life too where you're expected to have
24:34
Speaker 1: a bro code, right, And it's like, why if by
24:39
Speaker 1: bro does something dumb and it's going to hurt someone,
24:42
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to somehow protect him so this person gets hurt.
24:45
Speaker 1: I don't.
24:45
Speaker 3: I don't necessarily agree with that, you know what I mean.
24:47
Speaker 1: So I think there's a certain line that can happen
24:50
Speaker 1: where you're going to be like, you know, I'm not
24:52
Speaker 1: sure how I feel about that, and I think you
24:53
Speaker 1: handled that well. So all right, last question saw in
25:00
Speaker 1: the VIP lounge, I didn't even know what we were
25:02
Speaker 1: talking about tonight until that came up. And the favorite
25:05
Speaker 1: color thing, which I thought was really kind of funny
25:07
Speaker 1: that you you chose magenta. Is it show that in
25:15
Speaker 1: retrospect now it looked like you you kind of recognized
25:19
Speaker 1: that you handled that situation poorly for sure?
25:22
Speaker 3: Did that mean anything to you, Teresa?
25:25
Speaker 1: Well?
25:25
Speaker 6: He also he recognized it that night.
25:27
Speaker 5: Later that night too, we talked about it. It was
25:31
Speaker 5: hours later, like he I can't I don't know even
25:34
Speaker 5: know if I was like in the kitchen in the suite,
25:35
Speaker 5: he like walked in, he was like, look, I'm really
25:37
Speaker 5: sorry about all that, and he explained I knew like
25:40
Speaker 5: he was hot, tired, hungry, and.
25:45
Speaker 3: Like you said, you were all hot, tired and hungry.
25:47
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I know, it was more I understood where
25:51
Speaker 5: it came from. Yeah, And it was more my point
25:55
Speaker 5: of it was exactly that, like we all were, but
25:57
Speaker 5: like I adapted to the situation and I knew if
26:00
Speaker 5: I just smiled and like, you know, gave the.
26:04
Speaker 6: Producers that last shot.
26:05
Speaker 5: That's all they want, that lash out of us walking
26:07
Speaker 5: in and like, you know, talking about how excited we
26:09
Speaker 5: are to have this night together. I knew then that's done,
26:12
Speaker 5: they're gone, and we have the whole night to just
26:15
Speaker 5: enjoy what we worked hard for to win. Yeah, and yeah,
26:20
Speaker 5: it was just we talked about it. It was just unfortunate
26:23
Speaker 5: that like in that moment in the beginning, he just
26:27
Speaker 5: had a hard time just like adjusting.
26:30
Speaker 7: I felt a little short.
26:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and it can happen, right, Yeah, and it does.
26:34
Speaker 5: And that's what I was saying too, like when we
26:35
Speaker 5: brought it up again, I don't want one low moment
26:40
Speaker 5: to be something that's so big that labels him. Sure,
26:43
Speaker 5: you know, it's like we all have moments like that,
26:46
Speaker 5: you know. And it's again, it was just unfortunate that
26:48
Speaker 5: it happened during that time. But I don't think that,
26:53
Speaker 5: you know, after producers left, the cameras left, like that
26:56
Speaker 5: wasn't the rest of our night, right, it wasn't. And
26:59
Speaker 5: so it's yeah, it was just like you know, like
27:04
Speaker 5: we're all good. It's probably gonna happen again one day
27:06
Speaker 5: in the future too. It's like, you know, you catch
27:07
Speaker 5: them at the wrong time when they're hungry and hot
27:09
Speaker 5: and irritated, you know, like we're not perfect. It's going
27:14
Speaker 5: to happen. But he recognized it that night and we
27:17
Speaker 5: talked about it.
27:19
Speaker 1: Okay, I was lying, I have one more question. Actually
27:21
Speaker 1: I have two more so and then then we have
27:23
Speaker 1: to wrap it up. I know we're running out of it.
27:25
Speaker 1: We're running out of tape apparently. So was this your
27:29
Speaker 1: first time seeing each other since you guys broke up?
27:32
Speaker 3: First of all. Secondly, how are you guys feeling right now?
27:36
Speaker 1: Like cause I feel I don't know if I'm the
27:39
Speaker 1: only one I feel the love in the room.
27:42
Speaker 3: I do I feel it.
27:43
Speaker 7: I just do.
27:44
Speaker 3: I like you guys together, and I.
27:45
Speaker 1: Think that, you know, sometimes you need that balance of
27:48
Speaker 1: he can be a hothead. Yeah he needs somebody like
27:51
Speaker 1: you to keep him kind of in check, and then
27:53
Speaker 1: maybe she can get emotional or maybe actually would probably
27:55
Speaker 1: be maybe you might be too nice sometimes I'm sort
27:59
Speaker 1: of seeing that because I weedy traders have that same vibe.
28:02
Speaker 3: So we need this guy.
28:03
Speaker 1: To come in and kind of, you know, be like,
28:04
Speaker 1: let's go, let's move it along. I don't know, I'm
28:06
Speaker 1: just putting out there, But is this the first time
28:08
Speaker 1: you guys saw e show us as a breakup and
28:09
Speaker 1: what are you?
28:10
Speaker 3: Where are your heads right now?
28:12
Speaker 5: So in like right after we got back from Paradise,
28:16
Speaker 5: I went to New York and saw him and it
28:18
Speaker 5: was nice. It was a good weekend. But then it
28:21
Speaker 5: was like that was it. We went back to work
28:25
Speaker 5: and like then yeah, you know, like his work schedule again,
28:29
Speaker 5: like he.
28:31
Speaker 6: Just was just not available.
28:34
Speaker 5: And again I'm not holding that against him at all,
28:37
Speaker 5: Like this is like we're going to have times in
28:39
Speaker 5: our lives where our career is just it has to
28:42
Speaker 5: be number one priority, sure, and it it just was tough.
28:46
Speaker 1: And so the timing was tough, right, you come off
28:48
Speaker 1: the show where you want to be together more. But
28:51
Speaker 1: he's also got to bury himself in this thing. He's
28:53
Speaker 1: thrown everything he's got into his.
28:55
Speaker 4: Career literally just opened. I came back and we just
29:00
Speaker 4: open the doors.
29:01
Speaker 3: Brian, where's your head? Like where's your where are you?
29:03
Speaker 3: Where are you at right now with this relationship? Better
29:10
Speaker 3: not be what your hat says.
29:12
Speaker 4: This is just fun that like the season's over and
29:15
Speaker 4: you know it's it's lighthearted. Every all of us cast,
29:19
Speaker 4: We all love each other. As deep as it may seem,
29:21
Speaker 4: it's not that deep. And I think she's an amazing
29:26
Speaker 4: person and she's a lot of fun to be with,
29:28
Speaker 4: a lot of fun to talk to, and she's super supportive.
29:33
Speaker 7: And it's.
29:36
Speaker 1: You know, it's is the door open, is all I
29:38
Speaker 1: guess look at each other.
29:40
Speaker 7: It's like.
29:43
Speaker 4: Well, and it's like almost like where we were in
29:48
Speaker 4: Paradise again.
29:49
Speaker 3: I like that.
29:50
Speaker 7: I think I think it's interesting.
29:52
Speaker 3: I think I might buy you, guys from Margarita's tonight's
29:56
Speaker 3: expense to count here at my heart.
29:58
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys do that. I don't
30:00
Speaker 1: know if I even if they even know I have
30:02
Speaker 1: an expens account. I'm gonna use MYHR.
30:03
Speaker 3: Credit card tonight.
30:04
Speaker 1: All right, you guys, Well, I happen to really like
30:08
Speaker 1: the two of you. I think that I I don't
30:11
Speaker 1: know why I feel a kinship with Prisa because we're detroiter's.
30:15
Speaker 1: I did have a family member from Massapequal Park, so
30:18
Speaker 1: I know Long Island. But I wish you too so well,
30:21
Speaker 1: and I hope that this could potentially turn back into
30:25
Speaker 1: something for you guys. But thank you for coming on
30:26
Speaker 1: Almost Famous podcast with us. Thanks for sharing your lives, listen,
30:29
Speaker 1: and where things are. I wish you both the absolute best,
30:32
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna definitely come out to your restaurant.
30:34
Speaker 3: And I don't expect to be fully comped. Yeah, I
30:40
Speaker 3: do expect at least I'm our teamier tip. All Right,
30:42
Speaker 3: you guys, thank you so much. You have a great
30:45
Speaker 3: rest of your night.