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3 Things We Learned From Ohio State's 59-3 Win Over Kent State · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Buckeyes tomorrow morning for Sunday, September 20th. I'm
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  Speaker 1: your host, Tom Worthy. Illinois game in six days, the
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  Speaker 1: The Ohio State Buckeyes are 2-1 now on the season.
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  Speaker 1: They knocked off the Kent State Golden Flashes 59-3 inside
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  Speaker 1: Ohio Stadium on Saturday. Joined by Tony Gerderman of BuckeyeInsiders.com. Tony,
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  Speaker 1: we are going to have our three takeaways from the game.
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  Speaker 1: For a game that was 59-3, it wasn't an overwhelming performance,
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  Speaker 1: which is a bizarre thing to say about a game
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  Speaker 1: that finished 59-3. One of the reasons I think it
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  Speaker 1: felt not particularly overwhelming was because the running game, which
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  Speaker 1: has been sort of a question for Ohio State all year,
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  Speaker 1: was once again good but not incredible. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Bo Jackson leads the team in rushing in this one.
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  Speaker 2: 11 carries, 73 yards. Fantastic. You know, fine.
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  Speaker 3: No home runs really from anybody. The long carry of
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  Speaker 3: the day was 17. So I guess it would be like.
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  Speaker 2: Going and seeing the, what, the 88 A's and Jose
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  Speaker 2: Canseco and Mark McGuire just like duck snorting into the outfield,
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  Speaker 2: you know, just hitting singles.
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  Speaker 3: You still win like 12 to 3 because, you know,
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  Speaker 3: Carney Lansford drove some guys in and all of that
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  Speaker 3: good stuff.
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  Speaker 1: But.
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  Speaker 3: I paid to see the long ball, and there were
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  Speaker 3: no home runs here, so it's a little unsatisfying in
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  Speaker 3: that way because it's something that they focused on. It's
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  Speaker 3: something they did not have against Texas. They did have
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  Speaker 3: against Ball State. They didn't have the rest of the
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  Speaker 3: stuff against Ball State, so we saw some of the
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  Speaker 3: more consistent stuff in this one, but only from Bo
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  Speaker 3: Jackson and Jacoby Jackson.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Legend Bay got injured.
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  Speaker 3: So that was not an option after his second play
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  Speaker 3: from scrimmage. We'd like to see more from Isaiah West,
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  Speaker 3: but your two top guys... Together averaged, you know, about
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  Speaker 3: six and a half yards per carry, which is fine.
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  Speaker 3: It just wasn't as explosive as you would like.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was something that they talked about all offseason. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you want guys who are going to make,
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  Speaker 1: you know, break tackles, make big plays. And it was
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  Speaker 1: just kind of consistent, but not thrilling. There were not
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  Speaker 1: a lot of jump out of your seat plays, at
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  Speaker 1: least on the ground for Ohio State. There was a
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  Speaker 1: little jumping out of the seats with Jeremiah Smith breaking
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  Speaker 1: the Ohio State career receiving yardage record. That was an
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  Speaker 1: exciting moment in the first half. He finished with five catches,
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  Speaker 1: 85 yards. You know what you got there with Jeremiah Smith.
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  Speaker 4: It's going to be good. It's going to be consistent.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to consistently make people go, wow, that guy's
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  Speaker 1: good at football. My question with the wide receivers is, okay,
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  Speaker 1: who else do they have?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, if all.
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  Speaker 3: is Julian Sane looking for them is another question because
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  Speaker 3: we've seen Devin McEwen have a breakout game against Ball
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  Speaker 3: State two weeks ago.
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  Speaker 2: Julian Sane was looking for him, and he found him.
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  Speaker 3: Jeremiah Smith, and this one, his long catch is just
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  Speaker 3: 23 yards, and that was a catch and run. So
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  Speaker 3: there wasn't much downfield stuff for him there. But Devin McEwen,
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  Speaker 3: I am convinced, and Tom, you may be as well,
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  Speaker 3: like Brock Boyd and Chris Henry Jr.
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  Speaker 2: Can play.
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  Speaker 3: They can play Big Ten football together. They can be targets.
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  Speaker 3: They can catch the ball. They can do stuff clearly
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  Speaker 3: after the catch. Brock Boyd on his long catch scramble drill.
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  Speaker 3: He knew exactly where to go, what to do, caught
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  Speaker 3: the ball. And to me, those guys are just– Ryan
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  Speaker 3: Day talks about building trust with Legend Bailey. He's got
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  Speaker 3: to continue to build trust with the coaches. I think
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  Speaker 3: these two guys have built plenty of trust.
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  Speaker 2: They're out there. Maybe they need to build more trust
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  Speaker 2: with Julian Sane. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, Chris Henry– dropped a couple passes during
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  Speaker 1: his initial appearance against Ball State, and Brock Boyd had
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  Speaker 1: one catch in that game. So I think it's natural
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  Speaker 1: to look to Jeremiah Smith, and I think it's natural
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  Speaker 1: to look to someone like Brandon Innes, who, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you look at his stats from last year, and it
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  Speaker 1: wasn't thrilling, but it was consistent, and you throw him
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  Speaker 1: the ball, he's going to catch the ball. So there's
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  Speaker 1: certainly something that would make him an appealing target behind
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  Speaker 1: those guys. But yeah, I think that's just going to
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  Speaker 1: be something that progresses through the course of the season
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  Speaker 1: where you do not immediately, unless you are Jeremiah Smith,
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  Speaker 1: and there is literally only one Jeremiah Smith on this team,
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  Speaker 1: you don't immediately become wide receiver one from day one.
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  Speaker 1: And it's real hard to be wide receiver one with
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  Speaker 1: Jeremiah Smith on the team. I do think that Devin McEwen,
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  Speaker 1: there's probably more in there with him.
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  Speaker 2: I agree.
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  Speaker 1: But he had two receptions for 29 yards.
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  Speaker 4: He was only targeted twice. Chris Henry Jr., once.
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  Speaker 1: He was targeted once and had a 75-yard touchdown.
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  Speaker 2: That's a pretty good hit rate.
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  Speaker 1: Right, exactly.
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  Speaker 4: And you don't have.
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  Speaker 1: You can only catch the passes that are thrown to you.
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  Speaker 4: It feels like there's more in there with Devin McEwen.
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  Speaker 4: It feels like you saw.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Brandon Ennis' day, the exclamation point there was
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  Speaker 1: that Hail Mary right before halftime. But it feels like
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  Speaker 1: there's more in there with Brandon Ennis. But it does
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  Speaker 1: feel like those two young guys feel like they are
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  Speaker 1: sort of working their way up that pecking order.
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  Speaker 3: And I will say, Brandon Ennis, they started this game
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  Speaker 3: very much like the Ball State game, where, like, throwing
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  Speaker 3: to Brandon Ennis, getting him involved right away on, like,
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  Speaker 3: the first drive or two, and then nothing after that,
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  Speaker 3: save for.
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  Speaker 2: The Hail Mary. I will say, Tom, what kind of odds.
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  Speaker 3: could we have gotten that the JJ that scores in
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  Speaker 3: this game is Jameer Perez and Jeremiah Smith I think
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  Speaker 3: that one would.
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  Speaker 1: Have hit pretty big yeah that one that one definitely
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  Speaker 1: would have hit pretty big and the defense on this
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  Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball I think the questions about
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  Speaker 1: the pass rush are probably turning from questions into concerns
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  Speaker 1: for some people which is probably fair the the no
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  Speaker 1: Zion Grady on Saturday. And Ryan Day had said that's
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  Speaker 1: not a long-term thing, but he didn't play.
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  Speaker 4: Philip Daniels didn't play.
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  Speaker 1: James Smith, the defensive tackle, he went out with what
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  Speaker 1: I would guess is probably not at least a, you know,
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  Speaker 1: that did not look like a game-time decision for next.
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  Speaker 4: Week kind of injury. We'll see what comes out on that.
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  Speaker 1: But, you know, the defense on the whole, just not
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  Speaker 1: generating a lot of pressure. And I think everyone looked
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  Speaker 1: at Kari Wilder's production in five snaps last week and went, OK,
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  Speaker 1: just play him 50 snaps and you'll get 10 times
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  Speaker 1: that production. It's like, no, that's not quite how it works.
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  Speaker 2: No, not quite.
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  Speaker 3: And they're still building his whole kind of what you
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  Speaker 3: do kind of package and getting him to the point
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  Speaker 3: where they can play him on normal downs and he's
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  Speaker 3: not there yet or they don't believe he's there yet.
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  Speaker 2: You had one sack.
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  Speaker 3: In this game and it came from a combination of
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  Speaker 3: Will Smith and Jason Moore meeting up to quarterback. You
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  Speaker 3: had two other quarterback hurries, and now hurry is a
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  Speaker 3: dubious stat. But also, the two quarterback hurries listed in
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  Speaker 3: the Ohio State stat broadcast box score came from John
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  Speaker 3: Walker and Jameer Perez.
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  Speaker 2: Defensive tackles.
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  Speaker 3: Where is the quarterback pressure from the defensive ends? And
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  Speaker 3: that's something we did not see from Quay Russo. I
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  Speaker 3: didn't see it from Kenyatta Jackson, but again, they played
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  Speaker 3: a half. They played more than a half, but not
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  Speaker 3: much more. And how much were they... tasked with getting
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  Speaker 3: after the quarterback these are all questions like well there's
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  Speaker 3: no sacks because they were just caging or they're dropping
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  Speaker 3: the coverage or they're doing this or doing that so
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  Speaker 3: you don't want pressure you don't want quarterback pressure just
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  Speaker 3: still waiting to see something from just about anybody i'm
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  Speaker 3: i'm a firm believer kenyatta jackson is going to be
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  Speaker 3: fine when you're asking who is the the number two
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  Speaker 3: receiver for jeremiah smith like who is the other guy
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  Speaker 3: on the outside that can do anything for this team.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe it's Zion Grady. Maybe it's Kari Wilder. Maybe it's
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  Speaker 3: Bo Atkinson. Maybe it's Drake Quinn. There are no answers
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  Speaker 3: to that question right now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels like there are potential answers, but as
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  Speaker 1: Urban Meyer always loved to say, potential just means.
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  Speaker 4: You haven't done it yet.
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  Speaker 1: We should have a brief moment of appreciation for the
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  Speaker 1: Jameer Perez experience where you mentioned Jameer Perez had.
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  Speaker 4: The quarterback hurry. He was.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he is a true freshman. He is a
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  Speaker 1: unique player for Ohio State. We've talked a little bit
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  Speaker 1: about guys who are sort of might bring something unique.
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  Speaker 1: Legend Bay was someone who might bring something unique to
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  Speaker 1: the Ohio State running back room. Jameer Perez is listed
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  Speaker 1: at what, 346 pounds.
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  Speaker 4: 349 pounds, something like that.
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  Speaker 1: That is not something that they have anywhere else in
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  Speaker 1: that in that defensive tackle room. I assume, realistically, this
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  Speaker 1: is someone who is a see-next-year guy to a certain degree,
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  Speaker 1: where you can only do so much, and it looks
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  Speaker 1: great in the second half against Kent State.
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  Speaker 4: That doesn't translate to.
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  Speaker 1: Playing in the first half against Iowa, playing in the
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  Speaker 1: first half against Michigan, whatever it is. But, still, number one,
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  Speaker 1: I had flashbacks to Robert Landers at Indiana, the almost
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  Speaker 1: scoop-and-score at Indiana.
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  Speaker 4: A few years ago, but also.
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  Speaker 1: He is someone who we have seen a couple times,
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  Speaker 1: and he.
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  Speaker 4: Started at the very, very, very back of.
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  Speaker 1: The line this spring at Ohio State, even maybe fall
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  Speaker 1: camp at points. But he feels like he's sort of
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  Speaker 1: working his way up the pecking order.
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  Speaker 4: A little bit.
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  Speaker 2: It'll be interesting.
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  Speaker 3: Remember, Caden McDonald, as a true freshman, was in on
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  Speaker 3: goal line packages pretty early on, if not right away.
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  Speaker 3: Jameer Perez was not there last week against Texas. So
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  Speaker 3: there's still clearly some room to grow, and that's kind
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  Speaker 3: of also why you brought in John Walker to be
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  Speaker 3: one of those interior run-stopping guys.
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  Speaker 2: And John Walker, I think, has done fine. But it'll
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  Speaker 2: be interesting to watch Tamir Perez.
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  Speaker 3: That was a recruiting win that looked like maybe he
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  Speaker 3: was going to go to Florida for a while. And
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  Speaker 3: they were able to keep him home. It's a Glenville kid.
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  Speaker 3: Somebody who certainly has a bright future. But yeah, just
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  Speaker 3: the Cajones to just have the ball in the football
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  Speaker 3: in your left hand as you're running into the end zone.
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  Speaker 2: It was a 25-yard run. And No thought of tucking it.
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  Speaker 2: I was watching this afterwards.
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  Speaker 3: I'm thinking they're going to have him running through ball
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  Speaker 3: protection drills where you've got to run through this gauntlet
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  Speaker 3: as people are hitting you with a bat.
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  Speaker 2: Or trying to swipe. Maybe they'll have all of the
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  Speaker 2: defensive linemen doing.
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  Speaker 3: That because very easily could have just been swiped out
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  Speaker 3: of his hand if anybody had been there to do so.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm just now thinking Ryan Day asked during
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  Speaker 1: the postgame show if he was the heaviest player to
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  Speaker 1: score a touchdown in Ohio State history. I just thought
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  Speaker 1: about Jerron Cage, who had that scoop and score against
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  Speaker 1: Penn State in 2021. But Jerron Cage was, yeah, like
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  Speaker 1: 25 or 30 pounds lighter than Jameer Perez.
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  Speaker 4: So there you go.
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  Speaker 1: Perhaps an unanswered mystery, but potentially the heaviest player.
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  Speaker 4: To ever score a touchdown at Ohio State. So there
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  Speaker 4: you go.
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  Speaker 1: One of the highlights of the Buckeyes' 59-3 win over
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  Speaker 1: Kent State. Things get a little more challenging next week
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