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Xbox’s Big Comeback, Brand Refreshing, and Summer Game Fest Hype · Boss Rush Podcast - A Podcast about Video Games

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  Hello everybody, welcome back to the Boss Roof podcast, a great
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  place to play games and be better.
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  I'm one of your hosts. Corey Derrigan alongside me is
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  not the PC muscle race. It is in fact, that Retro code
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  Eddie V Edward Varnell is here. Hello, everybody.
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  The founders are in the building.
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  It's been a while, Corey, that we've been together to do this
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  here on Wild Search and I was super excited.
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  Thank you for having me. Thank you for having you.
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  It's like you think us every time you're on the show and you
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  know you can just show up on Wednesday nights when we usually
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  record this if you're off work, but you don't ever show up so.
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  Well, I I. It's like this.
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  It's like the CEO of a company thanking the company for giving
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  him an office. You know what I mean?
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  Like, thanks guys. We really needed this computer
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  to run our business. Hey, it is what it is.
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  It's fine. I mean, I feel honored when I
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  get to be on the other shows. And so I get to, you know, I, I,
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  when I feel honorable like that, I just want to thank people, you
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  know, for allowing me to happen because I mean, I, there could
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  be a time where I'm not needed on the show or wanted on the
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  show. I'm just saying I.
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  Mean you never want it, but here we are.
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  Wait here. What?
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  Here, But I, I always, you know, am grateful to be on any podcast
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  that I can when needed or when I'm able to be there and stuff.
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  Well, you're here because you know La Ron, la Ron.
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  So we're not recording live obviously on a on YouTube or or
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  Twitch or anything. We are here because LeBron had a
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  work thing last night and I had kids staying up way too late.
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  So we just, you know, decided to not do a show.
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  But I didn't want to miss a week because we missed a lot of
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  episodes this year already. I mean, this is only like our
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  8th episode this year and it's May, so you know, we didn't, we
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  didn't want to miss again. So Ed and I are going to talk
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  about some things. We're going to talk about some
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  eventful weekend I had honestly. But we're also going to talk
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  about some things that are happening, some changes at Boss
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  Rush in particular, which we're both very excited about that I
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  have already, if you've been paying attention, you've
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  probably already noticed, but we'll get to that.
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  But Ed, how's, how's life? How are you?
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  How's everything since I talked to you what yesterday?
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  Everything's good. I I got a bus for Spinner coming
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  out. I'm excited for you guys to read
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  it. These are, you know, happening
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  in life with work and stuff, and it's mostly dealing with another
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  place that's going to need me for a bit while working at my
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  main store with that great game start coming out Forza Horizon 6
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  and me to the Hollower, Tales of a Rise, Yoshi and the mysterious
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  books. Just like a lot of stuff is
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  happening and then I was I I forgive me everybody.
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  I talk to myself sometimes in my mind and and to myself.
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  No, because I'm I'm super excited for the summer direct
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  that is about the happening next month.
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  You know, summer game fest, Xbox showcase, wholesome gangs and
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  any kind of other thing that comes out.
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  Hopefully Nintendo will have something already to show was a
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  45 presentation whenever they want to drop it.
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  Maybe I'll stay to play from Sony.
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  Like I'm super excited 'cause I, I want to see the games that get
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  announced. But you know, I also want to,
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  you know, dab and hang out with my boss first crew and talk
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  about it about stuff that's coming.
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  And, you know, I want to help contribute articles, discussions
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  and everything about Summer Game Fest or the Summer Direct
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  because it may be June, July and August.
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  Like we might have three months of announced games for this year
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  and next year. And it just makes me excited
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  because definitely Xbox is going to be the main focus this year
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  because we want to see what they do and what they're going to
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  bring. Of course, with Nintendo Wii,
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  kind of want to know what the fall is, but we also want to
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  see, you know, with this switch to, you know, price increase.
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  Is there more that they're going to offer with it?
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  You know, we, you know, we they had an announcement that they're
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  bringing three more games or two more games.
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  I said to the switch to bundle and it it's almost kind of like
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  a year in the since since switch to has been out.
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  So instead of being able to us to get Mario Kart World, now you
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  you could choose between Mario Kart World, Becky come Bonanza
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  and Pokémon Pokapia. And then you get, you know,
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  they're going to offer the Pokapia one also as his own
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  bundle later that same month. And so I think Nintendo's going
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  party, you know, have a rise in sales before, you know, the base
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  model without no gay goes up in September.
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  And it's it's just going to be like, I want to see how people
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  react with it. Is it going to be good or is it
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  going to be, you know, if no one's touching it, does that
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  bring concern in their thing? And so I, I, I'm just super
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  excited to see how this summer is going to play out when it
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  comes to games. But most importantly, everybody,
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  I'm looking forward to celebrating our 500 episode of
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  Nintendo Power block. I'm gonna leave it right there,
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  so. Yeah, that is it's happening
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  soon at some point. Yes.
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  So yeah, I mean we're at 490-3494 somewhere in there.
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  So it's there's a lot, but I mean you, you are excited for
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  things. I had a really busy weekend
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  which was 2 weekends ago now after you hear this but.
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  Man. He's.
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  Like, I was at work, Corey knows.
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  I was like super concerned, but Corey, go ahead.
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  I Yeah. So I spent Saturday in the
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  emergency room because I fell and hit a lot of parts of my
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  body. I wasn't going to go.
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  But then I decided that I should make better life choices in
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  general, and that would be a better one to make, would be to
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  go to the emergency room after, you know, you hit your head on
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  the hardwood floor. So I did.
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  And nothing, nothing, you know, was was wrong.
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  Really. I mean, I'm sore still from it,
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  but other than that, you know, everything's fine.
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  Nothing's broken or anything. So.
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  But they told me to take it easy and, you know, rest and all
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  these other things, right? And then I put my son to bed and
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  I came downstairs. And then there was a flood in my
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  basement on Saturday. So I spent Saturday night from
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  9:00 PM to 2:00 AM scooping water into the shower in our
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  basement because there's a drain there.
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  And it turns out that the another thing that happened this
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  week, we got a, a new roof put on our house and they unplugged
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  our sub pump, which for those who don't know, is a pump that
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  pumps water away from your house when it rains out to the street.
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  And so a lot of older homes don't have them, but they are
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  now like required when you build a home to have a sub pump.
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  And so our laundry room flooded and into like this little room
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  back here at that. You can see the door over here.
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  Yes. That room flooded and it started
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  to creep around into into here. And so, yeah, we had people in
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  and out Sunday and Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday doing
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  things. So I worked from home.
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  Today was the first day I went to work in like 5 days.
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  I mean, I worked from home, but you know what I mean?
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  Like I, I usually go to the office because it, it's easier
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  for me to concentrate and get stuff done and that sort of
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  thing. But it was a busy week, man.
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  It was, it was rough. My, my, my wrist still hurts.
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  You know, I was planning on getting all the stuff done for
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  Boss Rush this past weekend because I wanted to make the
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  announcement of all this stuff last week.
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  And like, if you watch Pal Block and Boss Rush podcast last week,
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  you know, the redesign has already happened.
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  But yeah, it was a pretty eventful weekend.
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  And I'm not, you know, fully recovered.
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  But anyways, it was, it was also an expensive, expensive weekend.
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  Yeah, I don't know. But after, dude, after Saturday
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  and this week, I like, I felt so unclean because the basement was
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  flooded and like, yeah, not that like my office is cleaner than
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  our house. Like our house is clean.
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  It's just like, you know, sometimes when you sit in a
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  place for like, so long, you just feel like you need to like,
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  scrub yourself or like, take a shower or just like, yeah,
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  whatever. You clean it.
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  Did I feel like you need? To last night at like 10:30
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  after miles finally went to bed. I came down here and in the in
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  the bathroom in there I shaved, I cut my hair I just took out
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  like 1/2 hour shower. I just stood in there with the
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  hot water and like scrubbing myself because I felt so gross.
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  That's fine. Everything's fine.
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  It's all good. It's funny you 'cause I'm just
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  like, I, I just, even though I did take a shower today, I was
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  just like, oh, I need to, I need to wash my hair again 'cause
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  it's getting to the itching point and I'm just like, oh man.
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  But I do understand when you feel like you're clean, but you
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  still like, put the body body wash soap again on the thing,
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  get to scrub it again, washing the hair, washing the face like
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  you do like a double wash. Yeah, it's the.
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  Yeah, so that was my weekend. I wanted to play games, but I
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  didn't really. Well, we played a little bit of
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  games upstairs. I took my Switch up my Switch
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  upstairs in the extra dock upstairs just to you know, I
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  don't want anything to happen to my Switch to man, especially now
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  that the price is going up. But we're not going to talk
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  about that here. We can.
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  We already talked about that on Power block.
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  This is a Nintendo show, although Ed is here.
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  But yeah, man, I just. Wouldn't be it wouldn't be funny
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  that we talk a lot of Nintendo on the Butcher's Podcast.
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  We. Usually do when you're on.
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  Yes, but we talk so much Xbox, somehow sometimes it's just like
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  what we just did to reverse. Yeah, I mean, you know, it
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  happens. Who cares?
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  Who cares? People.
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  People know. People know why they're here.
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  We, I think we, like I said, we, we try to root over Microsoft
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  because we want to see them win too, and see all of them win.
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  Some people don't, but we did a big refresh of like logos and
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  everything. Not the logos aren't changing
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  right. I mean, I just clean them up a
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  little bit and I'm making like 8K versions of them just to kind
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  of have refreshed kind of high res versions of them as we start
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  reaching out to people again and stuff like, and also for people
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  to use them right for things because they're not like readily
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  available. The new ones, even some of the
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  old ones aren't readily available for people to use if
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  they want to. So like I, I've kind of been
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  going through all that. But the big, the big thing, Ed,
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  is we actually finally have a after seven, 6 1/2 years, we
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  finally have a logo. So they're just words stacked on
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  top of each other. So I'm pretty excited about it.
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  I I don't know what you think about it, but I'm pretty excited
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  about it. Lazzi likes it, Stephanie and
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  Laron like it. So that's one thing.
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  I don't know what you think. What do you think about it?
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  I love it. I I love the new logo you know I
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  I kind of want the symbol version for our business cards.
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  I I told you that, but do seen it now definitely and if you
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  guys, I don't know if you're going to talk about the intros.
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  I don't know about to say something, OK, I mean you.
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  Can I? I don't care this that's what
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  the topic is right now. I mean people who who've seen
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  this, has seen the new intro, has seen the pop like new
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  intros, the new intros of them. It's just so amazing, so cool.
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  It's very professional looking like it.
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  It takes boss rush to a whole new level.
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  So once again, thank you, Corey, because you want the best for
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  boss rush and I I like, I was super excited and just seeing
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  just like seeing it in this, like that's so cool how air the
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  trans, it's the transitions that get me 'cause everything is so
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  smooth and everything. It did see the new logo in the
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  bottom left corner and it's there just makes it feel no, it
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  just feels like This Is Us. This is this, this is boss Rush.
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  We own this in the sense that's, that's how it feels when
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  watching it. Inert.
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  They. Yeah, I mean I.
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  The whole thing with the logos and stuff like that, I've always
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  just wanted a logo and I've just felt like our stuff.
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  Not that it's not that it's super amateur, but it is kind of
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  amateur, right? I mean, I've, I've kind of make
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  these by hand and I'm not like up to date on the latest in
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  graphic design things, right? Like, I'm just trying to do my
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  best in terms of like, this is what I think we should do with
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  it. And so like, I finally just sat
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  down and looked and looked at like what people at Bostrush are
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  into the generation that we are all kind of from relatively
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  like, you know, the the Super Nintendo and 64 kind of era is
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  kind of like the prime era for most of the people that work
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  with us, right? Like mid 90s, early 2000s.
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  So I'm like, we need something there, you know, PS1, PS2 and
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  I'm like, I know everybody uses face buttons as their logo,
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  right? In some way shape or form.
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  But I'm like, you know, what would be cool is if we took the,
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  the C buttons from the N64 controller and kind of like
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  formed a logo that kind of represents or kind of like takes
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  that shape a little bit. And so like we have the, the
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  ring around the, the, the circles, right?
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  And like the circles are kind of like represent the four pillars
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  of, of what Bosstrus kind of represents, right?
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  Like, you know, podcasts and video community and networking,
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  the creative freedom. And, you know, one of the
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  pillars that we're working on, you know, just to kind of be up,
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  up front a little bit is like we've been really throwing
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  around this marketing idea for smaller studios and studios that
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  don't have big marketing budgets.
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  And like, you know, we kind of want to see what we can do in
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  that vein. And so that's kind of, you know,
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  what the logo kind of represents.
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  And then it also obviously looks like the face buttons.
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  And we've always done it that thing where like all of our
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  stuff is kind of like a play on words or a play on something,
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  right? And like has a dual meaning
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  essentially. And this is just another one of
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  those, right? It's like this is, you know,
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  the, the face buttons, the C buttons, whatever.
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  But also like there's circles. We have 4 kind of prominent
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  things that we try to accomplish here.
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  You know, it's for kind of gaming platforms, right?
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  Or for entertainment platforms. If you want to go gaming, movies
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  and TV, comics and you know, books and comics and then toys
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  and collectibles, right? There's that aspect of it.
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  There's like a lot of things that could represent and then
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  you could go to even each channel, which is another thing
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  we've been doing right, is like separating out the content into
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  their own kind of spaces to better represent who is on those
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  shows and this content that they want to make right.
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  Like, yeah, the since LeBron and I have kind of been doing the
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  boxers podcast by ourselves for a while and we kind of want to
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  take it in a generalized news of, of the gaming space, but
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  also like technology in a way, like gaming technology and like
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  what's being used and implemented.
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  And obviously following Asha Sharma has been a big topic of
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  conversation over the last couple weeks for us specifically
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  because of the of the moves that Xbox is making.
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  But yeah, I don't know, man, I, I just, I'm really happy with,
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  with what we've been doing. Obviously we moved Pow Block to
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  its own channel. It's doing really well.
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  We just crossed 650 subscribers over there after like a month,
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  which is good. And then, you know, Gamescast
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  we're we launched that Channel this week.
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  It has their own, they have their own channel of like mostly
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  focused on gameplay discussions and you know, stories joined
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  that show. So like they kind of focus on
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  retro stuff also and you know, kind of have creative freedom on
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  what they want to do there if they can, if they edit it and
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  put it up right, Like I'll obviously edit the podcast, but
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  like anything else they want to do over there, they can, you
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  know, kind of do if they want. And then the clips channel, you
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  know, the clips from all the shows and social media kind of
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  acts as that too. And I don't know, man, there's
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  just been a lot going on. I'm pretty tired, but I'm also
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  pretty excited about a lot of the things that have been kind
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  of revamped and you know, I kind of use this coming weekend as
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  like a rest restful weekend. You know, I'm just I'm pretty
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  tired, but I I'm happy all the shows have kind of gotten that
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  refresh and you know, tower casuals and Xbox casuals will
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  stay on their on that Channel, right, obviously, and kind of
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  cover to me and marathon and Xbox from a a games perspective.
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  And you know, it's been it's been fun.
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  I think really adjusting things to getting back to that the
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  network idea, right, Like, you know, we went from Bosphorus
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  games to the Bosphorus network, right?
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  In terms of what we call ourselves, you know, and really
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  kind of looking at the network as like not just our community,
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  but also like our content. Like look at the content we
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  have. We have all these YouTube
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  channels and podcasts now we have the website, which is, you
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  know, growing still, right? And, and the network of, of
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  creators and, and developers that we've met over the years,
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  like we've we've really done a lot.
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  And so like putting the emphasis back on the network term, which
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  I know podcast network is a is a popular term now these days, but
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  I like to think that we started that not not even with boss
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  rush, but with with nerds gotten rogue really or DNA even too to
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  an extent. But yeah, yeah, man, I, I don't
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  know. I need more.
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  I need more feedback from you. What do you?
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  What are you feeling about everything?
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  I think as we continue to expand, we could continue to
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  create content. You know, we it, it sometimes
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  stuff may feel like we're in a rut, but it's not.
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  You know, everything that we all present is new and it's
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  refreshing because like we can have new ideas, new
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  conversations. We're reaching out to people
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  when we go to these conventions and people see us and everything
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  or, you know, those different devs and stuff see us.
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  It's great to reach out and like they remember us or you know,
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  it, it's it's it's continues to be fun.
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  Yes, it continues to be work, but the like I said, work, this
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  work pays off, you know, and so I with the new logos, Corey told
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  me about saying it's a new season for this and that show,
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  but I kind of hate, but that I I hate when you I know, I know, I
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  know, I know, but I but I always tell Corey for me, and it's I'm
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  such a anime kind of visual person when it comes to like new
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  things like that. I kind of feel like that when
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  it's something, whether it's the new format that we do or a new
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  intro that we do for this is not a new season or anything.
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  We just got new intros. I always feel like it's a new
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  season for us because we're doing something new.
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  We're presenting something new. What we did in the past is
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  change. So I am that kind of way of
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  thinking, yes, Corey, you don't like it, I'll just talk.
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  This is a personal thing for me, OK?
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  I know. But I, but I'll say I'm like,
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  oh, it's a new season 4, probably blah, blah, blah, blah.
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  And then what? Just go on because it is
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  something new. We have a new intro, we have new
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  discussions. We sometimes bring in different
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  podcast guests or you know, from different shows and everything
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  or if they're starting out, you know, Bruno show for the first
• 25:05
  time in talking and hanging up with them.
• 25:08
  It's so cool to like have that because like like like I said,
• 25:13
  sometimes things could feel like we're in the rest stuff.
• 25:16
  So stuff could feel like it's recycle.
• 25:18
  But I'm just like there comes a time every year maybe twice or
• 25:24
  three times there's a refresh, there's a renewal.
• 25:27
  And when you kind of watch anime or some TV's, they have a new
• 25:32
  intro. Sometimes the animation is
• 25:34
  better, like quality wise, new storylines and stuff like that.
• 25:38
  So I kind of feel like when it comes to boss rush and there's
• 25:43
  something new, I kind of feel like it's a new season now.
• 25:46
  It that's a that's a personal thing for me.
• 25:48
  So seeing these new intros, I'm like, I love when there is
• 25:53
  something new. I know I definitely love with
• 25:55
  Corey. When you share with me to be
• 25:57
  like, this is the idea that I'm going for, but I'm trying to
• 26:00
  figure something out, you know, and I'll bounce off ideas.
• 26:03
  I'll say something whether you agree with it or not, maybe
• 26:07
  whether it helps you be like maybe I could or maybe I'll do
• 26:11
  something. I'll try this, get out, you
• 26:13
  know, and you pass it along to me to get approval or to get
• 26:17
  more thoughts and stuff. Like it feels great having that
• 26:21
  feeling that. So as we continue to go, you
• 26:26
  know, with Boss Rush and every aspect get entertainment, our
• 26:32
  writings, the video games, our art, our listicles, our how to
• 26:36
  and stuff, I'm super excited to see what everybody is going to
• 26:41
  bring and continue to bring to Boss Rush.
• 26:45
  So with these intros, with all of the where these are podcasts,
• 26:50
  gamer casts are in spotlight interviews, what you guys do on
• 26:55
  Boss Rush podcasts, what you do on Time of Castro and Xbox
• 26:59
  Casual, what we do on Pop Block. If we bring some of our old
• 27:03
  shows back, it's going to be continued to be exciting because
• 27:08
  there's something new that we're bringing.
• 27:11
  And maybe it's going to be, maybe we'll find something new
• 27:15
  with new developers and interviews and games and stuff
• 27:20
  that that will be, you know, expressing with our listeners,
• 27:26
  viewers and our readers from across the world.
• 27:29
  So I'm super excited for it. I love that.
• 27:32
  I get super excited about that. So that's how I'm feeling with
• 27:38
  that. Sorry, that sounds like it was
• 27:41
  too much. But I'm like, that's, that's me
• 27:44
  in my excitement. That's how I feel.
• 27:47
  No, I just my. My thing is all this stuff I
• 27:52
  just ideas and I just want to like, but I also want to make
• 27:58
  that it's like a team decision that we're moving forward with
• 28:00
  certain things, right? And it's like, yeah, I send
• 28:06
  things to you and like, I know what times I, I disagree with
• 28:10
  you one reason or another, but mostly it's because I like
• 28:14
  busting, you know, busting your balls a little bit, like, but
• 28:19
  you know, no, I'm making the decision.
• 28:20
  But no, I've really like want to make sure this is like a team
• 28:24
  vision before anything happens, you know, and, and before
• 28:27
  anything of takes place really, right.
• 28:34
  Like I, I just want to make sure everybody's on board with these
• 28:36
  like certain changes and stuff before we head because, you
• 28:41
  know, I want once things move ahead, then it's like, well,
• 28:44
  they got to stick for a while. You know, they got to it's, it's
• 28:48
  going to have to be like this for a while because you know,
• 28:53
  you don't want to change things all the time, which is, which is
• 28:56
  again, like the logos went through a refresh, but they're
• 28:59
  not different because people recognize our logo, want to like
• 29:05
  alienate people because you changed your logo, right?
• 29:08
  And it's like people recognize Boss Rush, Boss Rush's logo.
• 29:13
  And yes, yeah, I just, I don't want to alienate people.
• 29:18
  I don't want people, like, especially because like, get new
• 29:22
  fans and like, you tell them things and you send them
• 29:24
  something or like they find it and you change your logo
• 29:27
  randomly, like, they're going to be like, is this the right one?
• 29:32
  Did I find the right one? You know?
• 29:34
  And it's like, you know, when people find when people find
• 29:37
  this, though, right. Like we talked about, you know,
• 29:41
  recently we've been pitching it as like, you know, La Ron is on,
• 29:44
  it's me and La Ron on this show. And like we're going to try to
• 29:47
  find guests and stuff. But like it's me and La Ron and
• 29:50
  now people are and I'm not, this isn't like a a, this isn't meant
• 29:56
  to sound mean or anything. I'm just saying like they're
• 29:58
  going to hear you and they're going to be like, oh, did I
• 30:00
  download on shows? Is this the Nintendo show?
• 30:02
  Like what's going on here? I just want to make sure like
• 30:06
  the the consistency and the air that we put into everything.
• 30:12
  I just make sure it all works, you know?
• 30:16
  Very excited. I need to reach, I need to reach
• 30:19
  out to no, you don't a a a a gangs need to reach out to that
• 30:26
  team in games as a royalty free for all.
• 30:32
  Like I kind of don't want to get them the spotlight and stuff
• 30:35
  because I have articles on them from PAX, but I want to like get
• 30:40
  them on a spotlight and like introduce them and let them know
• 30:45
  about their game being out because I'm super excited for
• 30:49
  royalty free for all Yes, but they're going to be a evil this
• 30:56
  year. So I think I'm going to kind of
• 30:58
  wait till like they're marketing and stuff, they busyness kind of
• 31:04
  like died out and then bring them on and like kind of just
• 31:07
  like talk to them. Definitely.
• 31:09
  Hopefully they're at PACs West and that whole situation get
• 31:12
  together. Dude, we still can't get media.
• 31:16
  That thing is still close. That link is.
• 31:18
  I don't know what they're doing. Strange man enough, I don't
• 31:22
  know. Whatever, I know they just
• 31:24
  announced that they got prices and stuff like.
• 31:28
  Yeah, I got the cheaper prices now that they're on sale.
• 31:31
  Yeah, I don't really want to pay to go.
• 31:34
  I already got to pay for a, you know, everything else.
• 31:37
  But you know, when you're when your badges come out.
• 31:40
  Maybe, maybe I'll I'm, I'm going to try to get that West this
• 31:45
  year, but we'll see. Yeah.
• 31:49
  I I would like, I wanted to go so but anyways, Ed what, what
• 31:57
  are you playing? Are you playing anything fun,
• 31:59
  New, different, something that's not on?
• 32:07
  Like I said, I started up Grand Theft Auto 5, so I'm going to be
• 32:13
  working on that. Playing Pragmata.
• 32:18
  Pragmata on Series X, I'm in the third section of the game, so
• 32:26
  I'm like kind of halfway through the game for it.
• 32:32
  For a Switch. I'm at the still at the end of
• 32:35
  Constance, so I was going to try to get everything, but since
• 32:39
  it's just only one Andy, I'm just going to go and beat it.
• 32:42
  I don't need to get everything for that game.
• 32:44
  Like 'cause once I beat it, there's no really no reason to
• 32:47
  go back and play it. So I'm just going to do the Andy
• 32:50
  for that. I'm thinking of jumping into
• 32:55
  sales of Gracious FA little bit later, but this month, I mean
• 33:03
  for for June, yeah, I am working on before I go also with another
• 33:08
  Metroidvaya gang. I'm getting close to the end of
• 33:12
  that. So I think I'm going to go and
• 33:14
  finish that. I wish there was a switch to
• 33:16
  version of that gang. I think it would play in run
• 33:21
  better instead of the like playing the Switch one version
• 33:26
  or Switch 2, But that's the only version they offer.
• 33:29
  So that that's pretty much what I've been playing.
• 33:33
  I'm kind of, I'm trying to think of of course, with all the new
• 33:37
  stuff that's that's coming on, I'll be getting that playing
• 33:40
  that. But I'm kind of thinking of what
• 33:43
  my backlog for a game is going to be this year to play.
• 33:49
  I, I think I'm do 2 for Xbox and two for Switch 2, which would be
• 33:55
  the Switch one games and get those games two weeks.
• 34:00
  And whether I be there or not, I played it as much as I can.
• 34:03
  That's all I focus on and then move on to the next game.
• 34:07
  But that won't start until June or anything.
• 34:10
  That'd be June and July. So but like, for now, that's
• 34:14
  this is all the stuff that I'm playing right now.
• 34:16
  Oh, and Shinobi Age Avengers, I'm playing.
• 34:20
  Man, that game is so fun. That's him you consider?
• 34:25
  Yeah, it's so, so good playing that game.
• 34:32
  I'm I'm kind of halfway done with it, but I've been going
• 34:36
  back collecting stuff and now I'm doing the hard challenges of
• 34:40
  trying to get the dark sword for it.
• 34:43
  So I'm super excited to do all of that in our thing.
• 34:47
  It's just so much fun and so fluid with that, with the
• 34:52
  action. And I don't even be thinking of
• 34:53
  the enemy bars and stuff. I just listening just be going
• 34:56
  on and you know, just having fun with that.
• 35:01
  I also started up Elementis this Zelda style role-playing game.
• 35:08
  How was that the elements? It's OK for right now, 'cause
• 35:14
  I'm still in the intro. It's this intro is taking a long
• 35:18
  time to get into. They pitched it as they pitched
• 35:21
  it as like 2D Zelda with like, it's like are the last
• 35:27
  airbenders. Yeah, I have.
• 35:32
  Yeah. I haven't really started like
• 35:37
  going and opening up the world and exploring and stuff.
• 35:40
  I'm still like kind of in the intro with it because you, you
• 35:46
  right now, you play as a kid. I'm right now I'm a kid and I
• 35:52
  kind of trust, you know, see something happen to my parents,
• 35:58
  but I don't know what actually happened and stuff.
• 36:01
  So now I am I, I just got my first elementis, which I say,
• 36:10
  and then I got back home and met the guardian that's watching
• 36:14
  over me, my parents teacher and stuff.
• 36:18
  And he does some magic by lighting up, you know, those are
• 36:25
  fire and the fire pit and lining up the room and stuff.
• 36:29
  And then PC that you have have an elementis, but it doesn't
• 36:34
  tell you what that elementis does.
• 36:37
  And soon I'll be able to start my journey and go from there and
• 36:44
  stuff. So, but it's, it was like a
• 36:47
  whole 55 minutes of the intro and the game hasn't like, I
• 36:51
  haven't really got to do anything in the game.
• 36:55
  It's the so I'm just waiting for more just the game to open up so
• 37:00
  I could like go and explore and fight into and stuff like that
• 37:07
  their thing. And then I, I kind of want to, I
• 37:09
  got Death's Gambit, but I haven't started that yet.
• 37:13
  But that's what I kind of want to start.
• 37:14
  I want to try that game first, but yeah, that's pretty much
• 37:18
  what I've been playing. Nice.
• 37:24
  I haven't really been playing a lot this other than trying fun
• 37:30
  everything. You know, this weekend was not
• 37:34
  great, but I played some mark with the kids and I played some
• 37:48
  Disney dream light valley because it's easy to pick up and
• 37:52
  put down and, and, and it's essentially I just, you know, I
• 37:58
  and I've just been like really tired and, and man, I've a lot
• 38:06
  of pain this week just from everything else.
• 38:10
  So I kind of have not been playing a lot of games.
• 38:13
  I, I was going to play Yamada this week, but that was also
• 38:21
  assuming I was going to get everything or boss rush stuff
• 38:23
  and I did not. Oh, whoops.
• 38:28
  But yeah, it's, it's been a, it's been a long week.
• 38:31
  I I I'm glad we're recording stuff tonight, honestly, so I
• 38:36
  can kind of tomorrow and then have the weekend relax.
• 38:44
  Yeah. Oh, man, I just, I've been too.
• 38:49
  It's been, it's been insanely an insanely weird weekend.
• 38:53
  No idea. Leave me.
• 38:59
  I had different news to share, but here we are.
• 39:06
  Speaking of hold on, what is this?
• 39:13
  Oh, nevermind speaking news, Ed probably talk about one of the
• 39:20
  news. There's not really a whole lot.
• 39:23
  We're kind of in that calm before the storm a little bit,
• 39:28
  but the let's see. Sorry, I'm I'm pausing.
• 39:42
  I want to I want to talk about the Xbox kind of situation where
• 39:48
  they are really waiting exclusives.
• 39:52
  It did come out that Hellblade 2 on play was a success.
• 39:59
  So I just you know, I'm I'm I'm Oh my gosh, really hard time
• 40:05
  trying to podcast tonight. All right.
• 40:12
  Man, there's going to be some cool edits in this this.
• 40:20
  So let's talk about box re evaluating any inclusive this
• 40:24
  This article comes from push push Xbox quote re evaluate
• 40:31
  exclusives. Hellboy 2P is considered a
• 40:35
  success and are now working on, which from what I've heard is 3
• 40:45
  but about that in a little bit. But Microsoft has confirmed it's
• 40:50
  going to have another think of its stance on 1st box games
• 40:54
  being ported to other platforms. New Shasharma looks to to move
• 40:59
  the Xbox brand over for those titles already put on PS-5,
• 41:06
  there considered a success. Latest one is Senuos 2, which
• 41:11
  was ported as five in an enhanced edition this year,
• 41:15
  Ninja reported in its financial statements.
• 41:22
  There's a link to those financial statements article.
• 41:24
  But $5,000,000 or 5 million whatever fake money, I'm just
• 41:34
  kidding and the success Play 2 on PlayStation Five.
• 41:39
  It's now turning its attention to quote a future project
• 41:42
  meaning more ninja they're on the way.
• 41:47
  The numbers weren't shared, however.
• 41:51
  But I think think if you do the math, you can probably it's
• 41:54
  sold. Much of the talk success
• 41:58
  Microsoft has experienced first party projects to PS-5 has
• 42:02
  focused on Forza Horizon as the PlayStation version.
• 42:05
  More than 5 million is to its sale role.
• 42:10
  It's a Horizon 600. PS 5, though, isn't arriving day
• 42:15
  and day with the Xbox Series and PC versions without next this
• 42:24
  week, next week, Tuesday, right? I think this is tomorrow.
• 42:30
  At the time of at the time of this recording, people who get
• 42:33
  on the 15th, they get who bought the premium edition, get to play
• 42:38
  it. If you're getting the standard
• 42:40
  version, you'll get to play it on the 19th for a Forza Horizon
• 42:45
  6. Though I think it's really
• 42:50
  interesting, I think if there is one game you put day and date it
• 42:54
  would be for 2006. But that's just me, I guess I
• 43:05
  though that the sales for star been very soft in this in the
• 43:10
  sales for Gears Reloaded were all soft.
• 43:15
  So interesting to see a certain do well in certain ones not
• 43:20
  right. Like Sea of thieves did really
• 43:22
  well when it launched and I wonder how and I think you know
• 43:28
  reading this article revolves around right.
• 43:35
  There's a history on PlayStation did not sell at all Ox what I
• 43:43
  heard and poked. I mean it was available on game
• 43:45
  pass right? Like we played it on game pass
• 43:47
  for a week stop, but but it sold well on PlayStation is good in
• 43:55
  my because I was really worried not really, but is that making
• 44:02
  games in general about Xbox isn't going to close them
• 44:07
  state-of-the-art motion captures too.
• 44:10
  They are essentially, yeah, European engine kind of
• 44:15
  progenitors really, but really kind of push over there pushing
• 44:21
  is their kind of American or North American kind of Unreal
• 44:27
  Engine expert. I wasn't, but I was worried
• 44:31
  about them to continue development or, you know, maybe
• 44:36
  they make a game that they didn't want to make.
• 44:40
  Interesting to see which game, which ones don't.
• 44:43
  And I don't if you have an opinion on this or not.
• 44:46
  I mean, you're not subscriber so you buy your games anyway.
• 44:52
  And I I'm just wondering what your person is on these games.
• 44:57
  PlayStation well. Well, I think with these games
• 45:05
  coming to PlayStation and selling well, kind of showcase,
• 45:11
  it kind of showcases Microsoft, you know, how they can still
• 45:14
  make money in case, you know, they don't sell well on their
• 45:18
  own platform. You know, we, we talked about
• 45:21
  there's a possibility a lot of their games going back to being
• 45:26
  exclusive to Xbox, but then you get the tier stuff with Game
• 45:32
  Pass and, you know, with Call of Duty being taken out and stuff,
• 45:38
  Is it going to get a lot of people just wondering, well, you
• 45:41
  know, if I'm going to support Microsoft in this way or Xbox in
• 45:45
  this way, if I'm not going to be buying their platform or
• 45:49
  investing in their ecosystem and they're still bringing games out
• 45:53
  to my platform, a preference to play.
• 45:57
  That's how they're going to get their money.
• 45:59
  And they, you know, the PlayStation community has, you
• 46:02
  know, shown that a lot of the games that come to their
• 46:05
  platform, sometimes we'll sell if given a chance.
• 46:09
  The same thing with Switch to with Indiana Jones coming out
• 46:15
  that games been getting really good reception with Digital
• 46:20
  Foundry so that allow people to buy their games and you know
• 46:26
  give good sales. s s by South of Midnight was 1/2.
• 46:32
  I don't know the cell numbers, but a lot of people break and
• 46:35
  started recommending if anyone who really want a a adventure
• 46:40
  game like this, get it on switch to and everything.
• 46:44
  So it I think I just feels like Microsoft it kind of have a
• 46:49
  should have a good idea of, you know, put in their games on
• 46:55
  other platform is working for them in a good manner.
• 47:00
  Now when it gets to the point where they, you know, they don't
• 47:06
  want to put their platform games on other platforms, but probably
• 47:10
  besides Steam and stuff, then we'll we'll see how that's going
• 47:16
  to affect their business and everything.
• 47:19
  You know, with this, with this change is stopping is supporting
• 47:25
  PlayStation and Nintendo. We're only Call of Duty going to
• 47:29
  be feasible. You know, it will something like
• 47:34
  Diablo 4 or the next Diablo. Would that be a smart move just
• 47:40
  to keep it on Xbox and PC and I bring it to the other platforms?
• 47:45
  You know, it's it's really going to show that, you know,
• 47:49
  Microsoft with this change of business that if they do take
• 47:54
  all their games back and it is, you know, very exclusive to the
• 48:01
  Xbox, you know, brand, is it going to do Horizon 6 Metacritic
• 48:09
  numbers? You know, because they're going
• 48:12
  to have to their their first party will have to be hitting in
• 48:16
  the 80. I would say that even 85 you'll
• 48:20
  have to hit 8889 and 90 you'll have to range at least up to 95
• 48:26
  to make sure that you want to play the best games.
• 48:30
  Pay her at Xbox and stuff. If that's going to be having the
• 48:37
  best is going to lead to more people being game past
• 48:41
  subscribers. They're going to do everything
• 48:43
  to have that stuff be subscribed, you know, but that
• 48:47
  that's all going to depend on Microsoft or the Xbox, you know,
• 48:58
  devs be able to put out those products, you know, given that
• 49:03
  the time and the resource to put out those products.
• 49:06
  And then it's going to be up to, once again, I keep saying this
• 49:09
  to the players to play those games or purchase those games,
• 49:13
  hopefully purchase if they're still not Game Pass subscribers
• 49:19
  and stuff. Because right now Microsoft has
• 49:23
  a chance to be the be the be better at where they're at now
• 49:30
  'cause like when you, we were talking about Sony not doing
• 49:34
  well at Japan and like Nintendo taking over, you know, here in
• 49:39
  America, Nintendo got a lot, you know, they got a lot in, in
• 49:47
  Japan. They may not have a lot in
• 49:49
  Europe, but I'm like, if Sony is not doing good in Europe,
• 49:53
  there's a chance that Xbox and Microsoft can't come and take
• 49:57
  over Europe and that would be something to see.
• 50:03
  All right, technical difficulties aside, we were
• 50:08
  talking about Xbox exclusive. So my, my thought on this is
• 50:14
  that Xbox is clearly in a position where they want to
• 50:18
  change. They want to focus on, you know,
• 50:21
  the brand and, and, and bringing console back to the forefront
• 50:24
  and kind of making Xbox the, the gaming brand again instead of
• 50:29
  Microsoft gaming, right? Like we are Xbox.
• 50:31
  We talked about that a couple weeks ago on the show and quite
• 50:34
  a bit on Xbox casuals and all the other things.
• 50:37
  And if they're going to do it, they're going to do it now.
• 50:41
  They need to do it now, right? And they are being very
• 50:44
  aggressive, you know, Asha Sharma and and Matt Booty, big
• 50:48
  fans of the show, by the way. They, they are, I know they are,
• 50:51
  they listen, we're besties. But in all seriousness, like my,
• 50:59
  I've been thinking about this a lot.
• 51:02
  I mean, even before, you know, all of this, the changeover
• 51:06
  happened and, and first and foremost, I think they need to
• 51:10
  to look at Activision Blizzard, right?
• 51:12
  And like Activision Blizzard needs to be multi platform, full
• 51:17
  stop. No ifs, ands or buts.
• 51:21
  Everything that they have needs to be multi platform, right?
• 51:25
  I think they could do some IP shifting, you know, like there
• 51:32
  are definitely certain brands under Activision that probably
• 51:34
  fit better under the Microsoft Game Studios label or you know,
• 51:41
  even potentially under like the Bethesda label or whatever.
• 51:44
  Like I think you need to do some IP shifting and kind of put IP
• 51:49
  where they make sense, right? Like I think something like
• 51:52
  Crash Spyro, like those types of games fit better under the Xbox
• 51:59
  Game Studios branding, right? Like their mascot platformers,
• 52:05
  Activision Blizzard is known for these big epic adventures, Call
• 52:10
  of Duty, Overwatch, World of Warcraft, Diablo, StarCraft.
• 52:17
  And then you have, you know, crash inspiro, you know, you
• 52:25
  have a bunch of license to Marvel stuff, which could
• 52:29
  potentially come back and I think would be massive on on
• 52:33
  either game pass or the Xbox brand, right, like ultimate
• 52:37
  alliance and and spider man like.
• 52:41
  But I think at the end of the day, when you look at Xbox game
• 52:45
  studios game specifically, I think those need to stay
• 52:48
  exclusive. I think you're kind of big
• 52:52
  three. I would say 4, but I think Forza
• 52:56
  is one of those games that's too big to not be multi platform,
• 53:00
  right. I think your games as a service
• 53:03
  stay multi platform. Your Sea of Thieves, Forza, you
• 53:09
  know, I was, I was going to say Fallout 76, but that's Bethesda,
• 53:13
  but I think. The the the clarify forces
• 53:18
  though, because if we're going to there's two forces are are,
• 53:23
  are we saying are there rises just a rises to stay
• 53:25
  multiplayer? Are there Motorsports stays?
• 53:29
  I said are there? Are there 2?
• 53:31
  Yeah, because, because, because. They essentially laid off the
• 53:36
  entire Forza Motorsport team because Forza Motorsport failed
• 53:39
  miserably. The last one.
• 53:42
  So. Because the reason I the, the
• 53:45
  reason I said that was because of Gran Turismo.
• 53:48
  I'm like, would you want to be having those two games compete
• 53:52
  on the same platform? I'm, I'm looking at a Horizon is
• 53:56
  kind of the main Forza game now and that's kind of what they're
• 54:01
  going to do moving forward. So when I say Forza, I'm saying
• 54:05
  Forza Horizon, Forza Motorsport, if they ever bring that back,
• 54:10
  can stay exclusive. But horizon needs to be multi
• 54:13
  platform. You look at your your big three
• 54:16
  franchises, Halo, Gears, Fable, those need to be exclusive and
• 54:22
  those need to stay exclusive. I know gears Reloaded came out
• 54:26
  on PlayStation. I know campaign evolved is
• 54:28
  already too far along to pull from PlayStation right, But I
• 54:33
  think Gears E day needs to be exclusive.
• 54:35
  I think Halo 7 whatever they end up calling it needs to be
• 54:38
  exclusive to to Xbox. I know they already.
• 54:42
  It's funny, I was pulling trailers for the new intros and
• 54:46
  I downloaded a the a the the last fable trailer.
• 54:51
  Yeah. It was from the PlayStation
• 54:53
  YouTube channel. So I'm like, Oh well, whoops.
• 55:00
  So clearly that's not not going to PlayStation, but like
• 55:04
  whatever the next fable is needs to stay like I think those games
• 55:08
  need to be exclusive. I think whatever the next rare
• 55:14
  game that if it's single player needs to be exclusive.
• 55:18
  You know, and like I was saying, your games as a service, your
• 55:22
  main games as a service that aren't directly tied to the Xbox
• 55:27
  brand, like sea of thieves or grounded even, or you know,
• 55:34
  games like that, those should be multi platform because that's
• 55:38
  the lifeblood of the game as players, right?
• 55:40
  You need to keep those players engaged and and keep that
• 55:43
  population. So putting those multi platform,
• 55:47
  sure, but if it's a big single player adventure from one of
• 55:51
  these Xbox game studios games like the next, you know, the the
• 55:56
  next game from Obsidian needs to be single player and it needs to
• 56:01
  be exclusive to Xbox. Avoud was Obsidian I think.
• 56:07
  Yeah, Avoud was Avoud is. Wait, Avoud came to PlayStation
• 56:11
  though? Yeah.
• 56:12
  It ended up coming to PlayStation later.
• 56:14
  But that that's why you said OK, because only reason why you said
• 56:18
  their their next single player. And I'm just like.
• 56:20
  I didn't mean single player. Their next game needs to be
• 56:23
  exclusive. Exclusive.
• 56:25
  I didn't. I didn't mean to say single
• 56:27
  player there. Like I said, sorry everybody, my
• 56:30
  brain is all over the place. The next game from Obsidian, if
• 56:36
  it's single player, needs to be exclusive the next, you know,
• 56:42
  whatever. The next Ninja Theory game, if
• 56:45
  it's single player, needs to be exclusive the next Yeah, I think
• 56:50
  Double Fine game. You know, I'm just, I'm trying
• 56:54
  to think of all the, you know, Compulsion's next game, which
• 56:58
  might be South of Midnight too, considering it how well it sold
• 57:03
  on. PlayStation, but I don't know
• 57:06
  that clockwork something. No, that's that's in exile.
• 57:11
  In exile, OK. But still, that needs that needs
• 57:15
  to be exclusive to Xbox, you know.
• 57:18
  Yeah, that's the one that that I'm waiting for, like at the
• 57:21
  Forza. That's that's supposed to be the
• 57:24
  next 1, I think because I know Kojima, them they're that's far
• 57:29
  away. I know we'll know.
• 57:31
  We'll know at at summer at the summer.
• 57:34
  Showcase right like that's. What, 2-3 weeks away at this
• 57:38
  point? 4 weeks.
• 57:40
  At the time of this recording it would be like 2 weeks, no three
• 57:45
  weeks I think. Yeah, I just, I just think you
• 57:49
  need to, especially if like Game Pass is still going to kind of
• 57:52
  be your, I know it's not going to be their main thing anymore
• 57:55
  really. But if you're still going to
• 57:57
  want to push Game Pass, like you need to have exclusives on that
• 58:01
  thing and you need to have exclusives on your platform.
• 58:04
  And in my opinion, you know, these these Halo remakes are a
• 58:10
  good start. But whatever Halo 7 is, right,
• 58:12
  that's got to be your big platform pusher, right?
• 58:15
  That's got to be your big exclusive.
• 58:17
  But then but then does it and I know we talked about this on
• 58:21
  special pass. Does it do the Nintendo thing
• 58:24
  and drop something every month because you I'm like but that
• 58:28
  that. That's they have more studios
• 58:30
  than anybody, they should be able to do that, right?
• 58:33
  Right. And they haven't been doing that
• 58:35
  for the last. Well, they've been doing it for
• 58:37
  the last. Seven years.
• 58:38
  They've been doing it for the last like 2 years but the
• 58:41
  problem is, is like they made this bold strategy move and like
• 58:46
  it didn't work for them and now people don't want to buy an Xbox
• 58:51
  and therefore they don't have the game pass subscribers.
• 58:54
  So like. It's.
• 58:56
  Like, I mean, I, I just think they have a ton of games coming
• 58:59
  out, right, whether it's first party or second party capacity.
• 59:03
  Like I mean last year they put out like 19 games last year.
• 59:10
  That's a lot of games and they've put out a ton of games
• 59:13
  this year already, so. But we we were expecting a lot
• 59:18
  of the games to be out there leaves supposed to be at least
• 59:23
  12 games that we know of that was dropping February, March
• 59:28
  8th, well, January, January 8th, like each month.
• 59:32
  There should have been some hype about it because you know, like
• 59:35
  with Nintendo, even if they're re releasing the old game HD or
• 59:39
  whatever, or in support or whatever, there was nothing
• 59:43
  every month that we were just like, OK, this is the highlight
• 59:46
  for this is the highlight. This is the highlight.
• 59:48
  We we know what's coming. And it kind of felt like when
• 59:51
  Microsoft was on that same role because like even after I think,
• 59:57
  I think South South of midnight came out before a vow, I think,
• 1:00:02
  or whatever was going on in that spring section that Microsoft
• 1:00:06
  was killing it. It it is straight drop dead.
• 1:00:11
  And we didn't get nothing. I think it's till Niche Gaiden
• 1:00:14
  4. I believe it it it.
• 1:00:16
  I might be off on a lot of stuff.
• 1:00:18
  I probably but it's just I'm looking at.
• 1:00:21
  I'm looking at Microsoft published games right now in
• 1:00:24
  terms of Xbox Game Studios, Activision Blizzard and Bethesda
• 1:00:31
  last year, right? So they, they, I mean, they had
• 1:00:35
  something almost every month, right?
• 1:00:37
  Like about every six weeks, which is about what Matt Booty
• 1:00:39
  said that he wanted something every six weeks first party
• 1:00:43
  wise, right? And so I mean, just going off
• 1:00:46
  that list alone, that was about every six weeks, right?
• 1:00:49
  If you include Indiana Jones in December, was it November or
• 1:00:52
  December that in 2024 Gears Reloaded was August, So you had
• 1:00:58
  that? Yeah, Keeper it was October 17th
• 1:01:03
  and Out of Worlds 2 was October 29th.
• 1:01:05
  Ninja Gaiden was October 21st. Yeah.
• 1:01:08
  So I mean, you had like a that weeks, that four weeks stretch
• 1:01:12
  in September where it was those games and then Call of Duty kind
• 1:01:16
  of put that a bow on it, right? Like, I mean, Xbox had a ton of
• 1:01:21
  games last year. So I mean, my my point after all
• 1:01:27
  that silence and guess at work, my point is, is like, I, I think
• 1:01:34
  you look at a lot of these games and you're like, OK, what makes
• 1:01:36
  sense is first, like what makes sense to keep exclusive?
• 1:01:39
  What makes sense to go multi platform?
• 1:01:43
  I think Bethesda games need to go multi platform.
• 1:01:45
  I think Activision Blizzard games need to go multi platform.
• 1:01:48
  Well, so in other words, 'cause I think.
• 1:01:52
  I think you look at Xbox Game Studios as itself as itself,
• 1:01:56
  right? Like World's End, Halo Studios,
• 1:02:00
  The Coalition, Playground, Ninja Theory, Obsidian and Exile.
• 1:02:07
  You know this the Double Fine. Those studios that kind of sit
• 1:02:11
  under Xbox Game Studios, those games need to be exclusive
• 1:02:15
  unless it's a game as a service. Because like, Zen Max and
• 1:02:20
  Activision were already third party, so with having been when
• 1:02:25
  Microsoft bought them, the problem was to keep them under
• 1:02:30
  Xbox. Keep them first party, yeah.
• 1:02:32
  Right. I mean, Starfield was exclusive,
• 1:02:33
  right? I mean, that was the big deal
• 1:02:35
  that Starfield was exclusive until, you know what, last
• 1:02:39
  month, I think. So Xbox has a lot to think
• 1:02:42
  about, right? I mean, they have they have the
• 1:02:44
  franchises they have like the thing, the thing that bothers
• 1:02:49
  me, right, is like they have the portfolio to create a great
• 1:02:53
  exclusive machine, right? Yeah, they totally do.
• 1:02:57
  I mean, even even in the vein of like kids kid friendly stuff,
• 1:03:01
  right, Banjo, Crash, Spyro, you know, you have those kid
• 1:03:09
  friendly things you could make a cart racer, right?
• 1:03:12
  Like I mean, Crash team racing exists, right?
• 1:03:15
  Like why couldn't you put Spyro and Banjo in there, right?
• 1:03:18
  Like, you know, you have your fighting franchise with Killer
• 1:03:22
  instinct, you have your I mean, they are the home of shooters,
• 1:03:26
  right? I mean Halo, Gears, Doom,
• 1:03:28
  Wolfenstein. I'm not saying that Doom and
• 1:03:30
  Wolfenstein need to be exclusive, but you are the home
• 1:03:33
  of shooters. You are the home of Western RPGs
• 1:03:38
  like emphasize that, right? Like the you have those games
• 1:03:43
  that will draw the hardcore in. You have, you know, you have
• 1:03:49
  your tactics games with with Gears Tactics and Halo, Halo
• 1:03:54
  Wars and you know, Oh my gosh, what's that?
• 1:03:59
  The age of empires, right? Like you have those, you have
• 1:04:03
  your quirky, weird art games from compulsion and double fine,
• 1:04:08
  right? Like you have you have this is
• 1:04:12
  what we say about Sega, right? It's like Sega could totally
• 1:04:15
  make a console now and be have a serviceable first party lineup.
• 1:04:19
  It's, it's the fact that they have gone so far out of their
• 1:04:23
  way and not obviously not current leadership, but like
• 1:04:28
  the, the brand in general has gone so far out of their way to
• 1:04:32
  make the box so undesirable that they've been forced to make
• 1:04:36
  these changes. And that's going to be a
• 1:04:39
  hardship to turn around. I think they can do it.
• 1:04:43
  I, I really do think they can do it, right?
• 1:04:46
  Nintendo did it. I mean, obviously it's a
• 1:04:48
  different era, right? But like Nintendo did it with
• 1:04:52
  from the Wii U to the Switch. They did it from the GameCube to
• 1:04:55
  the Wii, like the Nintendo's done it twice.
• 1:04:57
  There's no reason to think the Xbox can't do it, you know?
• 1:05:00
  The thing, but the thing about it is like Nintendo had to fight
• 1:05:04
  for that. Microsoft, for some reason they,
• 1:05:09
  they don't have to fight that much.
• 1:05:11
  And it sounds weird for me saying that, but it's just like
• 1:05:15
  they're they're trying to appeal to the audience with these
• 1:05:19
  gangs. Now it's up to the audience to
• 1:05:21
  go out and get it because the thing about it is Microsoft has
• 1:05:25
  a strong library. It's it's really been strong.
• 1:05:28
  Why are gamer adult gamers, these mature gamers, these
• 1:05:32
  hardcore gamers, why are they not going out and supporting and
• 1:05:36
  buying these gangs? Because not only do you have the
• 1:05:39
  console community, you got the PC community.
• 1:05:44
  So you got 2 communities that you are trying to get a hold of
• 1:05:49
  now Yes, during the PlayStation 4 era, it was a challenge.
• 1:05:53
  It it listed was a challenge. Now you got the PlayStation Fry
• 1:05:58
  or that's looking what that's that's looking confusing right
• 1:06:02
  now. So if you're going to put out a
• 1:06:05
  put out these hardcore games and it's a great design.
• 1:06:09
  It got these great reviews. Why are the communities not
• 1:06:13
  going to get it? Oh, because the thing about it
• 1:06:17
  is, is that like I said, yeah, folks, some people still think
• 1:06:22
  Nintendo is for kids, but Nintendo, well, these folks are
• 1:06:25
  not like I use Doom. I continue to use to Doom
• 1:06:28
  because that's a immature game. That's from 1,000,000 sales.
• 1:06:33
  Cyberpunk did great sales. Like all of these things that's
• 1:06:37
  that are Nintendo and non Nintendo.
• 1:06:40
  If they're doing a million, that's not for kids.
• 1:06:43
  That's adults buying it and adults are covering it and
• 1:06:48
  giving their opinions about it. There's No 7 or 12 year old on
• 1:06:54
  the level of us like we're buying gangs and talking about
• 1:06:58
  it and and talking about things and emotions.
• 1:07:02
  Ain't no they're too busy doing Fortnite and all of that other
• 1:07:05
  stuff because there's a 12, there's a bunch of 12 or 13
• 1:07:10
  years old, don't matter the gender that help a game get to
• 1:07:14
  1,000,000 sales. That's mature on the Nintendo
• 1:07:18
  console. I'm gonna need y'all to show me
• 1:07:20
  that. Viva Pinata like where's your
• 1:07:23
  Animal Crossing Viva Pinata game that I mean that would be such
• 1:07:28
  an easy live service thing for them.
• 1:07:30
  That'd be so easy. I mean not to develop and keep
• 1:07:35
  going, but like you know, that's like it feels like that's a
• 1:07:37
  layup, right, Even if you don't have one of your internal
• 1:07:41
  studios working on it like you could what's Sumo Digital doing
• 1:07:46
  right? I mean, or or Iron Galaxy right,
• 1:07:48
  they are struggling. They need work.
• 1:07:51
  It's it's the yeah, that and that deals with the yeah, the
• 1:07:56
  cozy community. Will they?
• 1:08:00
  Will they go towards? Do you know how many people I've
• 1:08:02
  heard bring up on podcasts over the last decade, like where's
• 1:08:05
  Viva Pinata? You know, I, I think there's a
• 1:08:09
  hunger for Viva Pinata. I really do.
• 1:08:12
  And even even if not, like if you pitch it and like, say it's
• 1:08:18
  an Animal Crossing style game, then the people are going to go
• 1:08:22
  nuts. People do.
• 1:08:24
  People love these games, you know, and I mean, that's a game
• 1:08:29
  you could put on Switch or, or, you know, you can make that.
• 1:08:34
  Multi point right, like and and that's the thing about I'm just
• 1:08:39
  like how like out of these titles, how do we we avoid doing
• 1:08:45
  it on my side platform, you don't have to.
• 1:08:48
  You don't have to, you This game could be a game you put on Game
• 1:08:53
  Pass and you have microtransactions within the
• 1:08:55
  game, right? Like Disney Dreamland Valley
• 1:08:58
  does, right? I mean, that game's $40 and the
• 1:09:01
  expansions are $40. But yeah, the base game's on
• 1:09:04
  Game Pass and they have a ton of microtransactions.
• 1:09:08
  Every week the store refreshes with new stuff to buy, and it's
• 1:09:11
  not cheap, you know? I mean, everything in that store
• 1:09:15
  is like 4-5, six, $10, right? I mean, that stuff adds up.
• 1:09:20
  You know? You want the Haunted Mansion as
• 1:09:22
  your house. You can buy it.
• 1:09:24
  It's $15.00. You going to buy that?
• 1:09:29
  Yeah, some people. With with some Disney like
• 1:09:34
  you're just you're a Disney person, so that.
• 1:09:37
  You know, I just, I think in like you could even start
• 1:09:40
  incorporating other things in the Viva pinata.
• 1:09:42
  Like I feel like that's that's the franchise that like, oh,
• 1:09:46
  there's a Master Chief pinata that you can like, you know, or
• 1:09:51
  like a a banjo pinata or a conquer pinata, right, Like you
• 1:09:55
  could. Do different You kind of do what
• 1:09:57
  Nintendo does for Tetris 99. Like there's something that's
• 1:10:00
  coming from them for first party.
• 1:10:03
  And you could use it as a use, you could use it as a free
• 1:10:06
  marketing device where like, oh, hey, there's a, you know,
• 1:10:10
  there's a new Gears game coming out.
• 1:10:11
  Why don't you make a little, you know, like a a Jack pinata that
• 1:10:18
  you can fly? Around and follow you around.
• 1:10:20
  Here's a Marcus or a Dom. You know, kind of like kind of
• 1:10:25
  cartoony funny. Kind of or even like, oh, your
• 1:10:28
  pinata, here's a here's a Marcus Phoenix do rag that your pinata
• 1:10:33
  could wear. Or like, here's some cog armor,
• 1:10:37
  you know, like it's you could really do something.
• 1:10:40
  Or here's some Halo armor. Or here's a Doom guy.
• 1:10:44
  You know, make it, make it, make it childish and funny.
• 1:10:48
  That would attract the younger crowd eyes and the cozy
• 1:10:52
  community eyes. Like, I mean, the game is
• 1:10:54
  already super colorful, right? I mean, like you even go back to
• 1:10:58
  the 360 version of that game and it's like super colorful.
• 1:11:00
  It's funny. It's it's got.
• 1:11:03
  Like Viva pinata, not gears, just to make sure.
• 1:11:06
  Yeah, no, yeah. Viva pinata, like Viva pinata,
• 1:11:10
  you can. There's innuendo in there for
• 1:11:14
  adults who get jokes like that, right.
• 1:11:16
  It's like there's a lot of funny things in there and.
• 1:11:19
  And the thing and the thing about it is Microsoft got the
• 1:11:23
  power Series X get handled this then whatever hit Project Helix
• 1:11:27
  is, they could make the game look beautiful with the texture.
• 1:11:33
  If you thought that Nintendo was was amazing with Yoshi, Woody
• 1:11:39
  Yoshi's Woody World and Craft the World and Epic Mickey, not
• 1:11:42
  Epic Mickey, Kirby's Epic Yard, How they use that different
• 1:11:48
  style of texture to make stuff look real.
• 1:11:51
  Do see that stuff on Series X would be insane.
• 1:11:56
  That's how you push the power of the system in Project Koenix.
• 1:12:01
  I mean, the 360 game still looks really good on series X, right,
• 1:12:05
  Because it has the the upgrade stuff, But like, I don't know, I
• 1:12:11
  just, I'm just really confused at why they haven't tried to do
• 1:12:14
  that. I mean, they could even bring
• 1:12:16
  back dumb stuff like pitfall. They I mean, pitfall could be
• 1:12:19
  there Uncharted, right? You've you've been wanting
• 1:12:22
  something to rival uncharted in the Last of Us for so long.
• 1:12:25
  You own pitfall. That's literally the game that
• 1:12:27
  uncharted ripped off. You know, like, I mean, you
• 1:12:34
  don't have to call it pitfall. You don't have to call him
• 1:12:36
  Harry, but you know what I mean? Like you could, you could do
• 1:12:39
  something right. Like I think Pitfall could be a
• 1:12:42
  cool franchise if you did it right.
• 1:12:44
  It could totally be an Uncharted style franchise, you know?
• 1:12:48
  I mean they had that PS1 game. Let's not talk about that.
• 1:12:53
  Hey, I'm just saying I just give a dimension, that's all.
• 1:12:56
  I know it's just, I feel like you look at the franchises they
• 1:13:01
  own, you know how Blade and. It's just.
• 1:13:06
  There's so much potential here. And I know games take a lot of
• 1:13:09
  work and they take a lot of time and effort and IP, like you have
• 1:13:16
  to have IP management and stuff. But like, I mean there's IP
• 1:13:20
  management and like storing franchises away and then there's
• 1:13:23
  just like neglect, you know? You know, you had Toys for Bob,
• 1:13:30
  right? And like they end up buying
• 1:13:31
  themselves back and going independent.
• 1:13:33
  And it's like, man, like you couldn't have just like kept
• 1:13:38
  them to make Banjo and crash games Inspiro, you know, like
• 1:13:45
  staff that staff that studio up to like, you know, 200 people
• 1:13:49
  and have them work on 2 projects at a time.
• 1:13:51
  And they don't have to be big projects, right?
• 1:13:53
  Because you're going to sell a $40 single player platformer.
• 1:13:57
  All right. I'm I mean, I'm even thinking of
• 1:14:00
  like Speaking of Banjo and Inspiro and stuff.
• 1:14:03
  Like you could even go to like no, we don't have a studio that
• 1:14:07
  fits this, but we could go to, I don't know, Playtonic could
• 1:14:11
  totally make a Banjo game. It's literally what ukulele is,
• 1:14:15
  right? Is a Banjo game.
• 1:14:17
  Like I don't know or have them make a conquer game or
• 1:14:20
  something. I don't know, man.
• 1:14:23
  I just I, I, I know that the words in that we are Xbox thing
• 1:14:28
  is like we need to protect our art and we need to, you know,
• 1:14:31
  makers over managers. Those words like it's time to
• 1:14:35
  prove it's time to prove that now, right?
• 1:14:37
  Like what franchises are you going to pull out of the vault
• 1:14:42
  and say we need this type of game?
• 1:14:44
  I don't care how much it sells, and we're not shutting the
• 1:14:47
  studio down if it doesn't sell 10 million copies, right?
• 1:14:50
  Like you got to pull that card out at some point.
• 1:14:55
  Right, but I think if but I think even if they pull that
• 1:14:59
  card out, how many like I know, I'm sorry if I'm suddenly
• 1:15:07
  repeating myself. I'm like gamers have to go and
• 1:15:11
  play it. They got to support it.
• 1:15:13
  I know, but I think I. Think a move like this, at least
• 1:15:16
  for like the hardcore gamers, I think a move like this will
• 1:15:21
  garner a lot of goodwill from the hardcore fan base, right?
• 1:15:24
  And I think that's what that's what Xbox needs right now.
• 1:15:27
  They don't need more players. They need the hardcore to buy in
• 1:15:32
  because once the hardcore buy in the the casual gamers will
• 1:15:38
  follow, right? The people who want to play a
• 1:15:42
  Mario style game and have an Xbox with game pass will, you
• 1:15:46
  know, stumble over the next whatever, right?
• 1:15:50
  The, the, the, you know, the, the partner who likes playing
• 1:15:54
  Animal Crossing while the other one is playing Call of Duty on
• 1:15:57
  the TV, right? Like they'll stumble across a
• 1:16:00
  Viva pinata and be like, oh, this seems neat and you know
• 1:16:03
  what I mean? Like you need the hardcore
• 1:16:07
  people to buy in and then but if the hardcore people will follow.
• 1:16:12
  But if the hardcore's going to buy in, they going to have to
• 1:16:15
  change their taste of gaming. And really?
• 1:16:18
  See, I don't, I don't think so. I think like I think.
• 1:16:22
  I think so. See, I think, I think you're
• 1:16:27
  confusing the hardcore for the loudmouth Xbox influencers on
• 1:16:32
  Twitter who flop sides quite a bit.
• 1:16:38
  No, because I think, I think I and I'm, I'm sorry, I'm pulling
• 1:16:42
  out my Nets to the car. I think people who are hardcore
• 1:16:45
  or Nintendo have be are able to diverse their library and play
• 1:16:50
  different games. They could play casual cozy
• 1:16:53
  games. They could play difficult,
• 1:16:56
  challenging games like they they are able to play those, accept
• 1:17:02
  what those games give, deliver stuff that is so memorable that
• 1:17:08
  we're going to be talking for years and stuff and show cases
• 1:17:12
  to others on why this IP or this franchise or this series matters
• 1:17:17
  so much. You know, with Microsoft, if
• 1:17:20
  they're going to do that same thing and they're going to use
• 1:17:22
  these IPS to do that and they want the hardcore to buy in, the
• 1:17:27
  hardcore has to the heart, you cannot say Xbox is a Call of
• 1:17:33
  Duty machine anymore. If we're going to say that the
• 1:17:36
  hardcore going to have to buy in.
• 1:17:38
  We cannot say only hardcore people buy Madden every year.
• 1:17:42
  We can't use that two to three games for for something for
• 1:17:45
  Xbox. We can't use that excuse no
• 1:17:47
  more. If we're going to talk about
• 1:17:49
  hardcore bar buy in. If you're going to buy into
• 1:17:52
  Microsoft, you got to diverse your personal library and you
• 1:17:57
  have to show other people that you have a diverse library and
• 1:18:00
  respect it and get other people to get in.
• 1:18:04
  You want the cash flow and cozy community to get in.
• 1:18:06
  You have to start playing Viva Pinata and show why you enjoy
• 1:18:11
  that game 'cause if you don't then you're just recycling the
• 1:18:15
  thing that is the problem that Xbox is having.
• 1:18:20
  Because I'm just like, OK, why is this game that's mature rated
• 1:18:24
  and getting so much love, but you're ignoring this beautiful
• 1:18:28
  game and hating on yeah and you guys are the ones that spending
• 1:18:35
  600 plus some dollars on this console like so the hardcore
• 1:18:39
  going to have to buy in. They got to diversify because
• 1:18:43
  that's us. That's the Tudor y'all can make
• 1:18:45
  fun of us. But of I'm seeing on once again
• 1:18:49
  good sales right here. Pokémon Pokapiya still selling
• 1:18:52
  yak yak clown Hiro warrior on Wii U.
• 1:18:56
  Now look at it the the warrior gays got big because of harbor
• 1:19:01
  warriors. It's selling like what
• 1:19:03
  everything I don't know about that but but but but but Corey,
• 1:19:07
  who was telling the warriors gays has been out since the PS2
• 1:19:10
  days in that. Series got ignored, but did it
• 1:19:14
  did not. But I'm just like how?
• 1:19:19
  But. Everybody, I think I think the
• 1:19:22
  warriors games are popular. I think tying it to an IP draws
• 1:19:27
  eyes from people who don't care about those.
• 1:19:32
  So that's, you know, I don't know, I, I kind of disagree with
• 1:19:39
  you, but that's, you know, that's.
• 1:19:43
  I'm, I'm, I feel like no, because I, I think I, I'm, I'm
• 1:19:48
  just feeling about. It's just that that's I'm maybe
• 1:19:53
  it's the term hardcore and when people say hardcore players play
• 1:19:58
  stuff on Xbox, they use the meta and Call of Duty excuse only
• 1:20:02
  they don't that's you know. That's not the and that's not
• 1:20:06
  the hardcore I so hardcore, I should say, I think, I think the
• 1:20:10
  term we need to start using is the core gamer, not the hardcore
• 1:20:13
  gamer. Because you could be, I mean,
• 1:20:15
  you could be a hardcore gamer and play one game your entire
• 1:20:18
  life, but be really hardcore about it, right?
• 1:20:21
  But I think I think you look at the core gamer, right?
• 1:20:26
  I think you look at that and look at Xbox's lineup and I
• 1:20:30
  think the core gamers, the core Xbox fans want to love the
• 1:20:35
  platform. But over the course of the last
• 1:20:40
  two or three years, I think the core Xbox fan has been treated
• 1:20:44
  like the second class citizen essentially.
• 1:20:47
  And you know that they have kind of gotten the wrong end of the
• 1:20:53
  deal. They have the more expensive
• 1:20:55
  game pass. They have the you know, you
• 1:20:59
  know, the PlayStation 5 Pro version of the game is more, it
• 1:21:06
  is, is better looking. It has more features and stuff
• 1:21:09
  like that than the Xbox versions.
• 1:21:11
  Like they've just been treated like that.
• 1:21:13
  And that's not I, I, I don't think as a, as a platform holder
• 1:21:19
  that that's OK. I'm not saying you shouldn't
• 1:21:22
  make the best game you should, could possibly make, but like
• 1:21:26
  this is where the exclusive thing comes back in.
• 1:21:28
  It's like you should have exclusives, and this is how they
• 1:21:30
  should market these exclusives, you know?
• 1:21:33
  And so like, yeah, Halo Halo's going to be the top seller.
• 1:21:39
  Gears, it's a bit depending on who you talk to.
• 1:21:43
  Like Gears is going to sell, Fable will sell, Forza will
• 1:21:48
  sell, but you need to get the people to buy the platform to
• 1:21:53
  buy those games for them to notice these secondary games.
• 1:21:56
  And I know I'm talking in circles now and we're going to,
• 1:22:00
  we're going to wrap in a minute. But like, I think you look at
• 1:22:06
  the, the platform and, and the IP they own.
• 1:22:09
  And I think and, and they also have the advantage of, you know,
• 1:22:14
  being Microsoft, you know, and I, I know they're, they're
• 1:22:17
  trying to bring back the, the Xbox branding, right?
• 1:22:20
  And kind of be like this small kind of outlier from the
• 1:22:24
  Microsoft brand, but like you're still Microsoft and you still
• 1:22:28
  have Microsoft money. You can still pull some
• 1:22:31
  resources hopefully, right, to fund these smaller projects that
• 1:22:35
  you know you're not going to make billions of dollars on.
• 1:22:38
  But you need to have those, right?
• 1:22:41
  It's what Matt Booty said about hi-fi rush right after they shut
• 1:22:48
  the studio down. But you know, like, and and it's
• 1:22:52
  what Sean Laden even said about VIB Ribbon back in the day,
• 1:22:55
  right? Like the these games aren't
• 1:22:58
  going to sell a million copies, but they mean something to the
• 1:23:01
  platform and they need something to the core gamer.
• 1:23:04
  And you need your core gamers the most because they're the
• 1:23:08
  ones that are going to spend the most money on your platform.
• 1:23:11
  They're the ones that are going to spread the word about your
• 1:23:13
  platform, right? And you?
• 1:23:17
  Need those the way of marketing. I mean, look at the, I mean,
• 1:23:20
  look at the way you talk about like The Last Guardian, right?
• 1:23:24
  That game didn't sell 5 million copies.
• 1:23:27
  But the people who love that game really loved that game, you
• 1:23:30
  know, and I'm sure the, you know, 300,500 thousand people
• 1:23:38
  that bought the game, when they spread the word about the game
• 1:23:43
  and how good it is, I'm sure they sold another 100,000 copies
• 1:23:46
  just by spreading, you know, and that's not, that's not nothing,
• 1:23:50
  you know. Team team shuttle.
• 1:23:53
  The classes shouldn't be at the height of team eco, you know, of
• 1:24:00
  recognization of of that developer.
• 1:24:05
  But because, like blue point did a great job with the remake.
• 1:24:09
  Anytime, anytime the name of team eagle come out or sudden
• 1:24:12
  games that's connected, that's that looks like shadow the
• 1:24:15
  clock. This shadow clock.
• 1:24:16
  This was a big impact for a lot of players.
• 1:24:21
  And so when when do when, like you said with I guess I'm what
• 1:24:27
  I'm saying is that when there is a game that is very impactful,
• 1:24:32
  regardless of sale numbers, it's going to do something.
• 1:24:35
  It's going to bring eyes to that console.
• 1:24:37
  It's going to be like, man, I remember everybody was playing
• 1:24:41
  this game. Maybe I should go and pick it up
• 1:24:44
  or download or pay or if I if it's on game pass and I got it,
• 1:24:48
  I should download it because because what is up happiness is
• 1:24:52
  that once sudden I start getting on it and there's a sudden
• 1:24:55
  interest start start popping up on social media on social media,
• 1:25:00
  there's going to be a lane going to get it.
• 1:25:03
  That happened Phoenix, right? Fitness, right, was nothing
• 1:25:08
  until that game came $20.00. But now look at the series
• 1:25:11
  style. It got super popular when it
• 1:25:13
  came to Game Boy to the DS, and people started playing and
• 1:25:17
  talking about it. It was a game that folks full on
• 1:25:20
  ignore, but it can't. But look how popular that game
• 1:25:24
  became, you know? And I think Microsoft, they have
• 1:25:29
  tons of games that I, that I support, that I, that I love to
• 1:25:35
  play on their platform and stuff.
• 1:25:37
  Yeah, it may not do numbers or anything, but I'm like, once
• 1:25:41
  people start talking about them and say how good it is, it's
• 1:25:47
  going to catch eyes. That's why I'm just like, even
• 1:25:49
  with a vow, I'm like, this is like literally almost a perfect
• 1:25:53
  ten hell blades. Hell blades too.
• 1:25:57
  That is a perfect 10, but it it and regardless of it did did
• 1:26:04
  numbers or not. This is a game that fits
• 1:26:08
  perfectly on the Xbox console or PC.
• 1:26:12
  It fits right there because nature theory got a chance to
• 1:26:19
  create something that felt fresh, that made that made you
• 1:26:23
  think that you know, outside of the games graphics that and and
• 1:26:29
  how gorgeous this look you were in.
• 1:26:32
  You were like it. You were just engaged with that
• 1:26:36
  game to the very end. Yeah.
• 1:26:41
  You know. Yep.
• 1:26:47
  Well, Ed, I think we've said all we needed to say about 3
• 1:26:51
  different times topic. We're going to we're going to
• 1:26:56
  wrap it there mostly because I mean, I have a lot more to say
• 1:27:01
  about it. But like, I'm not going to lie
• 1:27:03
  to you. I'm like exhausted from this
• 1:27:06
  week and I still have a huge day at work tomorrow.
• 1:27:08
  So we're going to reconvene you for pal Block, which you can
• 1:27:12
  hear later this week on YouTube and podcast services.
• 1:27:16
  Ed, thanks for hanging out tonight.
• 1:27:19
  Thank you for having me. It's just to let everybody know,
• 1:27:21
  I think me and you, Corey, I think we're like I said, we're
• 1:27:24
  booting for Xbox to I want. Xbox, you know how much money I
• 1:27:29
  have invested in my Xbox? I want them to succeed.
• 1:27:31
  I want them to keep making games and making exclusives.
• 1:27:34
  Like, I mean, like, again, like I think on paper, I don't really
• 1:27:38
  care about exclusivity at all, right?
• 1:27:42
  Like I, I really don't in terms of being a player, but I think
• 1:27:47
  in terms of business strategy and platform management and IP
• 1:27:51
  management, like exclusives matter and the quality of those
• 1:27:56
  exclusives matter. And you know, I, I think
• 1:28:00
  Nintendo and Sony both have proven that exclusives matter.
• 1:28:06
  Nintendo more than most, right? I mean, they have a new
• 1:28:08
  exclusive come out like every four to six weeks, it feels
• 1:28:11
  like. I mean there's a stretch.
• 1:28:12
  There's a stretch right now where they're they're going to
• 1:28:14
  have six exclusives in three months, right, like crazy.
• 1:28:19
  And and that doesn't even include Fire Emblem.
• 1:28:21
  So, you know, and and you know, Sony has been making second
• 1:28:26
  party deals because they don't have first party exclusives a
• 1:28:32
  lot, you know, a lot right now they're trying to put out 2A
• 1:28:36
  year, which is like nothing. But also like game development
• 1:28:41
  takes time and whatever. But you know, Xbox, again, Xbox
• 1:28:47
  has the IP, they have the franchises that could that make
• 1:28:53
  a compelling box. It's getting, it's getting, you
• 1:28:57
  know, your ducks in a row, so to speak.
• 1:29:01
  I think fixing Halo would do a lot on its own.
• 1:29:06
  I think if Fable comes out and it's great, a sequel would do a
• 1:29:10
  lot right? Like I think those two like
• 1:29:13
  having that and in Gears E day returning, I think Gears E Day
• 1:29:17
  let me back up. I feel like Gears E day
• 1:29:23
  returning to Marcus and Dom is and you can quote me on this.
• 1:29:30
  I think this, I think that is the first step of if this game
• 1:29:35
  is good, Xbox is going to make a big comeback.
• 1:29:40
  Oh yeah. I think if that game is good and
• 1:29:44
  they can in Halo studios can get there, you know, you know, get
• 1:29:50
  their their stuff in order right?
• 1:29:53
  Like I mean they they there's a lot of potential right now and I
• 1:29:58
  I'm telling you man, this, I said this on the Iron Lords
• 1:30:01
  podcast when I was on there. If Xbox can turn this thing
• 1:30:06
  around and, and Asha Sharma is making these moves and they
• 1:30:09
  start working and they revisit exclusives, like you better
• 1:30:13
  believe they're going to start fitting her crown after Project
• 1:30:17
  Helix comes out and like, Oh yeah, she's going to be an icon
• 1:30:20
  in the Xbox war forever. They're, they're that the
• 1:30:25
  success they, they receive a lot of success now is going to make
• 1:30:29
  the future Xbox bring the eyes back to them, the eyes that were
• 1:30:34
  stolen from them, from Sony or Nintendo or whoever they feel
• 1:30:38
  like that our eyes were stolen from.
• 1:30:40
  If they comes back to Xbox they have a chance to lead again.
• 1:30:46
  Yeah, and like to turn it around, they don't need to sell,
• 1:30:50
  you know, 100 million boxes the way that PlayStation and
• 1:30:54
  Nintendo have, right. It would help.
• 1:30:56
  But just based on like their, their, their, their popularity
• 1:31:00
  in different regions and everything, like if they could
• 1:31:02
  even sell like 50 million or 60 million of their next box in
• 1:31:07
  North America and and Europe, right?
• 1:31:09
  Like that, that's turning it around in my opinion.
• 1:31:14
  That's, you know, plus like having their their Xbox on PC
• 1:31:18
  platform, right? Like, yeah, you know that.
• 1:31:21
  I mean, I know a lot of PC people are going to migrate that
• 1:31:24
  way, which is fine. Like, you know, you don't really
• 1:31:27
  need the Xbox if they're going to keep this PC strategy going.
• 1:31:30
  But like, again, I think a lot of a lot of people in the gaming
• 1:31:37
  space like to hate on console players specifically.
• 1:31:43
  And there are a lot of people out there like normal average
• 1:31:46
  gamers that just want to plug and play a console on ATV that
• 1:31:51
  they spent a lot of money on at Best Buy or got on sale for
• 1:31:54
  Black Friday or whatever. And they don't want to have to
• 1:31:59
  go through all the hassle of APC set up.
• 1:32:02
  They want to plug it in, they want to play it and they want to
• 1:32:04
  just relax. And they don't want to sit at a
• 1:32:07
  desk and and and hunch over and play games on the 27 inch
• 1:32:11
  monitor, right? Like they want to go play a game
• 1:32:13
  on a on ATV in a way that makes them feel comfortable.
• 1:32:16
  And I think a lot of people are just underestimating how many
• 1:32:20
  people are still like that. And if you can get those people
• 1:32:22
  to buy in for Xbox, right, like, yeah, that's a big deal.
• 1:32:27
  So. In Eve test the ad and then
• 1:32:31
  we'll we'll head out Corey now adding like steam deck
• 1:32:35
  verifications and all the handheld stuff that adds more
• 1:32:40
  and and and I'm not. I don't know if you saw what Ken
• 1:32:45
  Levine said today. Oh, about the about how?
• 1:32:54
  Nintendo like stylized and stuff and the realistic realism
• 1:32:58
  graphics and stuff and everything.
• 1:33:00
  Yeah, the fact of diminishing returns on realism and like how
• 1:33:05
  you know, there it seems like developers are going to start
• 1:33:08
  shifting the other way because just ultra realism is too
• 1:33:11
  expensive essentially. Well, it it it's it's not even
• 1:33:15
  that that's expression pass. Let's do that for expression
• 1:33:19
  pass because I I have AI have opinions about that and I and
• 1:33:26
  I'm conscious like, oh, now you want to bring this up.
• 1:33:30
  I mean, yeah, we'll, we'll talk about it later because I have a
• 1:33:34
  lot to say too. And I know we're going to be
• 1:33:35
  combative, combative on that. And that's going to take another
• 1:33:38
  3 hours to. Dissect.
• 1:33:40
  Yeah, let's let's everybody check out Expression Pass.
• 1:33:43
  I think that let's do that for Expression Pass, but for another
• 1:33:48
  day, 'cause I think that that was AI think that was that.
• 1:33:52
  I think that's a good topic and discussion to have.
• 1:33:56
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