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- 0:07Speaker 1: It's 6 Eastern. It's 3 o'clock Pacific.
- 0:10Speaker 2: This is a president of action.
- 0:11Speaker 3: Coast to coast and.
- 0:12Speaker 2: Around the world from the America Out Loud Talk Radio Studios.
- 0:16Speaker 2: If he says he's serious about something, he means it.
- 0:19Speaker 4: It's time for The Truth Be Told with Booker Scott.
- 0:23Speaker 2: The art of the deal may be running out in
- 0:25Speaker 2: the Middle East for Donald Trump. In a lot of ways,
- 0:28Speaker 2: it seems like we were just here two weeks ago.
- 0:31Speaker 2: We had a 48-hour ultimatum then, and we have one
- 0:35Speaker 2: of those now. Tomorrow night, Tuesday night, 8 o'clock Eastern Time,
- 0:40Speaker 2: that is when all hell breaks loose. will break loose,
- 0:43Speaker 2: according to Donald Trump on Easter Sunday morning. I'm Booker.
- 0:48Speaker 2: This is The Truth Be Told. It is a Monday night,
- 0:50Speaker 2: and because of that, we have Matt Palumbo. He always
- 0:53Speaker 2: joins us here for Mondays with Matt. Matt, it was
- 0:56Speaker 2: a busy week. We have another one ahead of us.
- 0:58Speaker 2: It looks like things are a little bit crazy, and
- 1:01Speaker 2: we're going to get into the Iran stuff a little
- 1:02Speaker 2: bit later. How was your Easter?
- 1:05Speaker 1: I guess I'll start on a positive note with Easter.
- 1:08Speaker 1: I had a very good Easter with the family. It
- 1:11Speaker 1: was a nice break from the chaos of the news,
- 1:14Speaker 1: even if it was just for a day. But I
- 1:16Speaker 1: had a very good Easter. I hope you did.
- 1:18Speaker 2: I did. I did. And as I was coming out
- 1:20Speaker 2: of church Sunday morning, I get a text message, and
- 1:22Speaker 2: it's from you. And it happens to be just what
- 1:26Speaker 2: President Trump put out Sunday morning at about 8 o'clock
- 1:29Speaker 2: about this deadline and what is coming on Tuesday night.
- 1:33Speaker 2: That's what we're going to talk about here in just
- 1:34Speaker 2: a little bit. But before we do, I want to
- 1:37Speaker 2: talk about some good news, because there was some good
- 1:39Speaker 2: news yesterday. in last week and over the weekend. Artemis
- 1:42Speaker 2: II lifted off on the way to the moon. It's
- 1:46Speaker 2: almost there. And it's really an incredible story when you
- 1:49Speaker 2: look at Orion. They've had some problems with it. Everything
- 1:52Speaker 2: is going well now with the exception of the toilet.
- 1:55Speaker 2: And I think they may have. What's the problem with
- 1:57Speaker 2: the toilets? We have the Gerald R. Ford aircraft carrier.
- 2:01Speaker 2: The toilets are messed up on it. And now we
- 2:03Speaker 2: have Artemis II with a mess up there. But it's
- 2:06Speaker 2: great to see America leading again, going to a place
- 2:09Speaker 2: that no human has ever been, and that's on the
- 2:12Speaker 2: dark side of the moon.
- 2:13Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah, I think it's awesome. And liberals and this
- 2:17Speaker 1: is actually also true during the first moon landing. The
- 2:20Speaker 1: reaction from the left was one of why are we
- 2:24Speaker 1: wasting money on stuff like this when we could be
- 2:27Speaker 1: feeding the poor? It's any any advancement, any show of
- 2:32Speaker 1: greatness is just reduced to why couldn't we instead just
- 2:36Speaker 1: have the government waste the money? And I don't know.
- 2:38Speaker 1: It's just to me is such a. loser-ish kind of view.
- 2:43Speaker 1: If we all had that mindset, there would never be
- 2:45Speaker 1: any scientific advancement, quite frankly, ever. And to make the
- 2:50Speaker 1: obvious point, the problem with the poor in this country
- 2:52Speaker 1: is actually they eat too much so that they're not
- 2:54Speaker 1: being fed. So I don't know. It's just bizarre to
- 2:57Speaker 1: see that kind of demoralization in response to what is
- 3:00Speaker 1: such an amazing key of humanity.
- 3:02Speaker 2: I was watching over the weekend. It seems that on
- 3:04Speaker 2: the backside of the moon, the dark side of the
- 3:06Speaker 2: moon from the Earth.
- 3:08Speaker 1: Good album.
- 3:08Speaker 2: Yeah, it is an album, too, by Eric Clapton. I
- 3:12Speaker 2: had it. I had it on cassette back in 1984,
- 3:15Speaker 2: I believe. The Dark Side of the Moon, Eric Clapton.
- 3:18Speaker 2: Look it up. Some good songs on that album. But
- 3:20Speaker 2: there are a lot of craters on the backside of
- 3:23Speaker 2: the moon because it sort of works as a shield
- 3:26Speaker 2: to prevent Earth from being hit by asteroids in space.
- 3:29Speaker 2: And it is that that they want to take a
- 3:31Speaker 2: look at for building, you know, to go to Mars,
- 3:35Speaker 2: to build a space station there on the moon in
- 3:38Speaker 2: the future. And when it comes to exploration, I think
- 3:41Speaker 2: that's the way humans are built. We're always looking for
- 3:45Speaker 2: the next thing, for future. If we hadn't, America wouldn't
- 3:49Speaker 2: even be here. People hadn't looked for a new world.
- 3:52Speaker 2: It's just in our nature. It's not going to stop.
- 3:54Speaker 2: So whether you're left or right, conservative or liberal, it
- 3:57Speaker 2: really doesn't matter. That's human nature. It doesn't have anything
- 4:00Speaker 2: to do with politics.
- 4:03Speaker 1: Yeah, and the thing, too, about scientific advancement is you
- 4:06Speaker 1: don't know what you're going to discover until you discover it. Like,
- 4:09Speaker 1: the fruits of space exploration are things that are probably beyond, like,
- 4:13Speaker 1: are just things that we're never going to be able
- 4:14Speaker 1: to imagine you and I sitting here. But for people
- 4:17Speaker 1: 100 years from now, are going to be things that
- 4:18Speaker 1: are taken for granted. So, no, it's an awesome thing. And,
- 4:24Speaker 1: you know, good news last week.
- 4:27Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was a good news. I'm a
- 4:30Speaker 2: guy that grew up with Apollo. I was a little
- 4:34Speaker 2: kid when Mercury was going on and Apollo as well.
- 4:37Speaker 2: But I remember my mom taking me to see a
- 4:40Speaker 2: Mercury space capsule that had gone to orbit the Earth
- 4:45Speaker 2: and splashed down. And I got to see it in
- 4:48Speaker 2: person and it made a huge impression on me. And
- 4:50Speaker 2: I saw him walk on the moon the last time. So,
- 4:53Speaker 2: you know, it's a part of my life. I think
- 4:55Speaker 2: that people my age are sort of a space generation
- 4:59Speaker 2: because we grew up with it. And it was great
- 5:01Speaker 2: to see Artemis II blast off, show American power, ingenuity,
- 5:05Speaker 2: because in reality, that is one of America's greatest resources.
- 5:10Speaker 2: Our dollar doesn't have to be backed by gold or
- 5:13Speaker 2: anything else when we have incredible resources and ingenuity. And
- 5:17Speaker 2: that was what was on display last week with Artemis,
- 5:20Speaker 2: and we'll continue to watch that as they come back
- 5:23Speaker 2: to the Earth here. But incredible pictures, too, of the Earth.
- 5:28Speaker 2: For those flat Earthers out there, you know, you can't
- 5:31Speaker 2: look at that picture and really believe that there is
- 5:34Speaker 2: a flat Earth. And by the way... What about this
- 5:37Speaker 2: missing general out in Nevada? Have you seen that at all?
- 5:42Speaker 2: This guy that was involved with the aliens in Nevada
- 5:47Speaker 2: for years?
- 5:49Speaker 1: No, but I was going to comment on the Flat
- 5:51Speaker 1: Earth conspiracy. No one's ever explained what the government has
- 5:55Speaker 1: in it for them by covering it up. What would
- 6:00Speaker 1: the government be protecting by hiding the fact that we
- 6:02Speaker 1: have a flat Earth? It's never been explained.
- 6:05Speaker 2: I think people just love conspiracy theories. And this missing
- 6:09Speaker 2: general out there, he's retired now, but he was heavily
- 6:12Speaker 2: involved in aliens. Area 51 for all of these years. Now,
- 6:16Speaker 2: the conspiracy theorists on that side of things that believe
- 6:21Speaker 2: that there are aliens, they think that he was abducted
- 6:24Speaker 2: or something, or someone took him because he was going
- 6:28Speaker 2: to release information. His wife has come out and said, well,
- 6:32Speaker 2: he left his glasses here, he left his wallet, and
- 6:36Speaker 2: he took a 38 with him. So he was leaving.
- 6:41Speaker 1: Well, up until then, I was going to say, it
- 6:43Speaker 1: sounds like an alien abduction based on those first two facts. Yeah,
- 6:47Speaker 1: I don't think so.
- 6:49Speaker 2: No, no, no. But let's stay here. Let's stay here
- 6:52Speaker 2: with some good news, because Friday, F-15E was shot down
- 6:57Speaker 2: in Iran in the conflict there. And quickly, within hours,
- 7:02Speaker 2: the pilot was recovered. But then we had, for 48 hours...
- 7:07Speaker 2: the colonel that was sitting behind the pilot, he was
- 7:10Speaker 2: the weapons specialist there on that F-15. He was missing
- 7:16Speaker 2: for 48 hours, and we had an incredible rescue over
- 7:19Speaker 2: the weekend.
- 7:20Speaker 1: Yes, and the fact, too, that Like Iran couldn't get
- 7:24Speaker 1: to a guy like that in their own country within
- 7:26Speaker 1: two days of having time to try to take him
- 7:29Speaker 1: out does also attest to the fact that they really
- 7:31Speaker 1: have no standing in the war. They have no real
- 7:33Speaker 1: ability to fight back against us. So I guess it's
- 7:35Speaker 1: good news there, although, you know, we're going to have
- 7:38Speaker 1: to transfer. You know, transition into discussing the fact that
- 7:42Speaker 1: the conflict is going on quite a bit longer than
- 7:44Speaker 1: I think any of us expected, and the costs are
- 7:47Speaker 1: beginning to pile up to the fact where I think
- 7:49Speaker 1: it is going to be damaging to us, unfortunately.
- 7:51Speaker 2: The exact circumstances of the rescue, they still remain unclear. Evidently,
- 7:57Speaker 2: he was injured somehow, but he also managed to get
- 8:00Speaker 2: up about 7,000 feet onto a mountain. And there were
- 8:03Speaker 2: hundreds of American troops that went in, a lot of planes,
- 8:07Speaker 2: helicopters that went in to rescue them. We did lose
- 8:10Speaker 2: a C-135 transport plane there. The American troops that were
- 8:14Speaker 2: on the ground inside Iran, which this actually happened a
- 8:17Speaker 2: lot further in in Iran than they thought. It was
- 8:20Speaker 2: western Iran, close to Iraq, but yet it was a
- 8:24Speaker 2: little bit further east than where everybody thought it was
- 8:27Speaker 2: going to be. And there were hundreds of special forces,
- 8:30Speaker 2: as well as dozens of U.S. fighter jets, helicopters. They
- 8:33Speaker 2: were all involved on that. And we got the news
- 8:36Speaker 2: early Sunday morning. President Donald Trump, he goes to social
- 8:39Speaker 2: media and he says, we have rescued the seriously wounded,
- 8:43Speaker 2: is the words that he used. and really brave F-15
- 8:47Speaker 2: crew member officer from deep inside the mountains of Iran.
- 8:51Speaker 2: And like I said, we don't know exactly how he's
- 8:54Speaker 2: going to be, how injured he was, but we're going
- 8:59Speaker 2: to find out over the next few days. But really,
- 9:01Speaker 2: an incredible rescue mission, some good news there. I believe
- 9:05Speaker 2: as we start this hour, we've got Artemis and we've
- 9:07Speaker 2: got that. But I think, again, it shows the military
- 9:11Speaker 2: force and capabilities. The CIA was involved here in rescuing
- 9:15Speaker 2: this weapons specialist from the F-15. So another good news
- 9:20Speaker 2: story here coming out of the weekend.
- 9:22Speaker 1: Yes, and now for some bad news.
- 9:26Speaker 2: Well, we have to talk about it. I mentioned that
- 9:31Speaker 2: coming out of church Sunday, you sent me a text,
- 9:33Speaker 2: and you sent me the text that Donald Trump put
- 9:36Speaker 2: out at about the same time that the women would
- 9:38Speaker 2: have been at the tomb of Jesus 1,993 years ago.
- 9:44Speaker 1: Exactly.
- 9:45Speaker 2: I heard on Good Friday, in our sermon on Good Friday,
- 9:48Speaker 2: that according to the calendars and research and a couple
- 9:52Speaker 2: of guys that have done research on it, and written
- 9:54Speaker 2: a book that it was actually April 3rd, which was Friday,
- 9:59Speaker 2: and April 5th, 5th, Easter, would have been the day
- 10:03Speaker 2: that the tomb was empty. So at about the same
- 10:05Speaker 2: time the women were there, you know, discovering that Jesus
- 10:09Speaker 2: was gone, Donald Trump puts out that post. And I
- 10:13Speaker 2: have to tell you, when you sent that to me,
- 10:14Speaker 2: you didn't say anything. You just sent a screenshot of
- 10:16Speaker 2: the post. No, I said, oh, man. Oh, you did, yeah.
- 10:20Speaker 2: And I read it probably three or four times, and
- 10:24Speaker 2: it really bothered me. I have to say it bothered
- 10:27Speaker 2: me a lot.
- 10:29Speaker 3: It, um.
- 10:31Speaker 1: You know, there are times Trump says things where I'm like,
- 10:34Speaker 1: all right, this is going to be a challenge to defend,
- 10:35Speaker 1: but I'm up for the task. This one is definitely
- 10:38Speaker 1: a little more challenging than average. I don't know if
- 10:41Speaker 1: you want to read it first. And just to be clear,
- 10:44Speaker 1: this is not like a parody thing. He actually said this.
- 10:47Speaker 2: Hey, Matt, I have this from Jake Tapper in CNN.
- 10:50Speaker 2: And I want to warn everybody listening that if you
- 10:53Speaker 2: have children around, I did not edit this. This, they're
- 10:58Speaker 2: going to be the words of the president of the
- 10:59Speaker 2: United States who put this out 8 a.m. on Easter Sunday.
- 11:04Speaker 2: Here is the piece from CNN.
- 11:06Speaker 6: Children are watching. Be warned, the president did not use
- 11:10Speaker 6: polite language. Quote, Tuesday will be power plant day and
- 11:14Speaker 6: bridge day, all wrapped up in one in Iran. There
- 11:18Speaker 6: will be nothing like it. Open the fucking straight, you
- 11:21Speaker 6: crazy bastards, or you'll be living in hell.
- 11:24Speaker 2: Just watch.
- 11:26Speaker 6: We should note that destroying civilian power infrastructure is generally
- 11:29Speaker 6: considered to constitute a war crime under international law, though
- 11:33Speaker 6: the president could argue that the infrastructure has dual use and.
- 11:36Speaker 2: Also is utilized by Iran's military. And we kind of
- 11:39Speaker 2: talked about that last week, Matt, if he does go
- 11:42Speaker 2: after these targets. I think this points to something else, though.
- 11:46Speaker 2: To me, it looks like desperation. You know, is the
- 11:49Speaker 2: art of the deal working with these people that have
- 11:52Speaker 2: an ideology that only believe in putting fear in people
- 11:55Speaker 2: and killing people, and they're doing it for a higher power, which,
- 11:58Speaker 2: by the way, Jake Tapper didn't read this, but Donald
- 12:01Speaker 2: Trump put at the end of that post, all praise Allah.
- 12:06Speaker 2: What the hell was that?
- 12:08Speaker 1: Not smart.
- 12:09Speaker 2: Not smart. I would say, Matt, that's how I would
- 12:12Speaker 2: say it. Not smart at all because they take their
- 12:15Speaker 2: religion very seriously to the point of chanting death to
- 12:19Speaker 2: America for 47 years. Not only that, but it's very
- 12:23Speaker 2: disrespectful to the Arab nations that happen to be our
- 12:26Speaker 2: allies right now because they take that religion very seriously
- 12:30Speaker 2: as well. I was not happy about it at all.
- 12:34Speaker 2: I think Donald Trump is desperate here. He doesn't know
- 12:36Speaker 2: how to get out of this. You mentioned earlier that
- 12:39Speaker 2: we thought this was going to last four to six weeks.
- 12:41Speaker 2: I still believe it's going to be over pretty quickly.
- 12:44Speaker 2: I really do, Matt. But what's going to be left?
- 12:48Speaker 2: What is going to be left? Because now everybody in
- 12:50Speaker 2: the world is paying attention to Donald Trump and America
- 12:54Speaker 2: and what we're going to do. If we leave quickly,
- 12:58Speaker 2: the Strait of Hormuz is going to open. Would you
- 13:00Speaker 2: agree with that? I mean, if we get out of
- 13:02Speaker 2: the way, it's going to open.
- 13:03Speaker 1: To be fair to Trump, when I saw gas prices today,
- 13:06Speaker 1: I repeated what he said and said, open up the
- 13:09Speaker 1: F-ing Strait of Hormuz already. So I see where he's
- 13:11Speaker 1: coming from there. Yeah, I mean, I agree. It would...
- 13:15Speaker 1: open up then. But no, I'm not really sure what
- 13:17Speaker 1: the strategy is supposed to be. And I think it
- 13:20Speaker 1: was on this show we were talking about when Trump
- 13:21Speaker 1: pushed back the deadline. Was that because they're making progress,
- 13:28Speaker 1: they have to iron out the details, or was he
- 13:30Speaker 1: bluffing the first time and now we're trying to come
- 13:32Speaker 1: up with something else? And I guess maybe there's more
- 13:35Speaker 1: points to the second, unfortunately.
- 13:38Speaker 2: Yeah, you may be right, but... I hope I'm not right. Yeah, well,
- 13:42Speaker 2: I don't know. I sense that Donald Trump wants out.
- 13:46Speaker 2: He knows that he needs to get out for gas prices,
- 13:50Speaker 2: for the midterm election, because he knows he's going to
- 13:53Speaker 2: be impeached if things don't turn out right. And we'll
- 13:57Speaker 2: talk about the midterm election later in this hour. But
- 14:00Speaker 2: I think he needs to get out, and I think
- 14:02Speaker 2: he knows that. However, if you do not finish the
- 14:06Speaker 2: job at this point in American history and world history,
- 14:10Speaker 2: and you leave that regime there in charge, what they
- 14:13Speaker 2: have learned, I believe, what they have learned is that
- 14:17Speaker 2: they have more power in the Strait of Hormuz for
- 14:19Speaker 2: the global economy than they would ever have with one
- 14:22Speaker 2: or two nuclear weapons. They now know that all they
- 14:25Speaker 2: have to do is shut down the Strait of Hormuz
- 14:28Speaker 2: and the entire world gets rocked with their global economy.
- 14:33Speaker 2: What do you think about that?
- 14:35Speaker 1: Yeah, that is the unfortunate reality.
- 14:37Speaker 2: You know, it is.
- 14:40Speaker 1: Trump really does then have to use force to at
- 14:43Speaker 1: least make their consequences for them doing that. So thank
- 14:47Speaker 1: God I'm not in charge of foreign policy in this
- 14:49Speaker 1: country or else it'll be screwed.
- 14:52Speaker 2: It would be bad.
- 14:52Speaker 1: I want to get out quickly, but also he needs
- 14:54Speaker 1: to annihilate them in some way so they know those consequences.
- 14:58Speaker 1: That's the strategy of both.
- 14:59Speaker 2: And I think the regime has to be gone. And
- 15:00Speaker 2: I think that they will have to come from the
- 15:02Speaker 2: people of Iran. I've talked about that a lot. That's
- 15:05Speaker 2: how it has to happen. But if that is not done,
- 15:08Speaker 2: if that is not a consequence... of what America has
- 15:11Speaker 2: done and what Donald Trump has done here in this action,
- 15:14Speaker 2: then nothing is going to change. They can shut down
- 15:17Speaker 2: the Strait of Hormuz whenever they want to. By the way,
- 15:20Speaker 2: the spot oil last week, Brent, was up to 140.
- 15:25Speaker 2: Spot is about a two to three week delivery. It's
- 15:28Speaker 2: already on a tanker somewhere. It's waiting to find out
- 15:31Speaker 2: where it needs to go. It's $ 140 for Brent. West
- 15:34Speaker 2: Texas was at about $ 112, $ 115. So our prices are
- 15:38Speaker 2: not coming down for a while, regardless of what happens here.
- 15:43Speaker 2: And when it happens, it's going to be a while.
- 15:45Speaker 2: And as you said, you said the same thing Donald
- 15:48Speaker 2: Trump did when you filled up gas. Gas is over
- 15:51Speaker 2: $ 4 a gallon now. And not only that, but I
- 15:56Speaker 2: was having a conversation with a brother-in-law over Easter. We
- 15:59Speaker 2: were having dinner together. and he's a contractor, and he
- 16:02Speaker 2: was talking about filling his gas up in his truck.
- 16:06Speaker 2: Every day it's costing $ 200, but the price of a
- 16:09Speaker 2: 2x4 has gone from $ 2. 75 to $ 4.
- 16:11Speaker 4: 20.
- 16:12Speaker 2: So inflation in everything is going to start coming up
- 16:16Speaker 2: as a result of the higher gas prices. Donald Trump
- 16:19Speaker 2: knows this, and everything that he's been working for economically–
- 16:23Speaker 2: is in trouble as long as this continues. I think
- 16:27Speaker 2: he is looking for a way out. I just don't
- 16:29Speaker 2: think he knows how to right now. What do you think?
- 16:32Speaker 1: I'm holding out hope he has a strategy or at
- 16:34Speaker 1: least those around him do. But yeah, I still believe
- 16:38Speaker 1: in that.
- 16:39Speaker 2: And again, I don't want people to think that I'm blackpilling.
- 16:43Speaker 2: It's just as a Christian, looking at that text that
- 16:47Speaker 2: you sent me, walking out of church on Sunday morning,
- 16:50Speaker 2: it really bothered me. It really bothered me that the
- 16:53Speaker 2: president of the United States put that post out. It
- 16:56Speaker 2: bothered me as a Christian. It bothered me for our
- 17:00Speaker 2: allies there in the Gulf Arab nations. And I started
- 17:04Speaker 2: this hour with the art of the deal. I think
- 17:07Speaker 2: Donald Trump has always bullied people. to get his way.
- 17:11Speaker 2: And that is the art of his deal. You have
- 17:13Speaker 2: to have the leverage to negotiate. I don't understand why
- 17:17Speaker 2: we have ever offered to negotiate with these people to
- 17:20Speaker 2: begin with. We don't negotiate with terrorists has been our
- 17:24Speaker 2: motto forever. And since 1984, Iran has been a state
- 17:29Speaker 2: sponsor of terrorism. Every president agrees with that. And so
- 17:34Speaker 2: why do you think you can bully Iran and, at
- 17:38Speaker 2: this point, because they lie. That's what they do. And
- 17:42Speaker 2: it was very frustrating to see. But one more. I'm
- 17:45Speaker 2: going to play one more clip before we go into
- 17:47Speaker 2: the break. Because this was Leland Vedderd with, of all people,
- 17:51Speaker 2: John Bolton is their expert on Iran. I know John
- 17:56Speaker 2: Bolton has 18 counts against him for stealing classified information
- 18:01Speaker 2: and then transferring that classified information by email. That's John Bolton.
- 18:07Speaker 2: He's waiting for a trial and he's going to prison.
- 18:09Speaker 2: But yet, I guess News Nation sees him as a
- 18:12Speaker 2: credible voice. Anyway, he makes a point here. And let's
- 18:15Speaker 2: listen to Leland Vedert and John Bolton.
- 18:18Speaker 4: National Security Advisor during Trump 1.0, Ambassador John Bolton.
- 18:22Speaker 2: Welcome back to the program, sir.
- 18:23Speaker 5: Thank you.
- 18:24Speaker 2: As President Trump describes it, the U.S. military can do
- 18:27Speaker 2: whatever it wants.
- 18:29Speaker 3: Basically, we've achieved victory over the Iranian military.
- 18:33Speaker 2: Is that good enough?
- 18:34Speaker 4: Well, I don't think it is with the Strait of
- 18:36Speaker 4: Hormuz closed. I think the evidence that this threat, long-time
- 18:41Speaker 4: threat of closing the strait, closing the Gulf itself to
- 18:44Speaker 4: maritime traffic, when you see the real effect of it,
- 18:48Speaker 4: the dramatic impact on the global economy, this tells the
- 18:52Speaker 4: Ayatollahs and the Revolutionary Guard in Tehran that they can
- 18:55Speaker 4: do that any time they want.
- 18:58Speaker 2: Something else that's happening here is Iran is being watched
- 19:02Speaker 2: by Russia and China. They're going to see what happens here,
- 19:07Speaker 2: what Donald Trump does at the end of this conflict.
- 19:10Speaker 2: Is he going to see it through and finish it?
- 19:13Speaker 2: Because they're paying attention to it because of Taiwan and
- 19:16Speaker 2: because of Ukraine. So it has many more implications than
- 19:20Speaker 2: just getting out of there. Donald Trump, I think, has
- 19:23Speaker 2: to do what he says he's going to do. The
- 19:26Speaker 2: bluff is not going to work. So we'll wait until
- 19:28Speaker 2: Tuesday night to see that. Something else Jake Tapper said
- 19:31Speaker 2: a few minutes ago that when I played that clip,
- 19:34Speaker 2: he talked about the illegal acts that it could be
- 19:38Speaker 2: in blowing up the infrastructure. And of course, he said
- 19:40Speaker 2: that Donald Trump could make the argument that it has
- 19:42Speaker 2: dual purposes. And I think you made the same argument
- 19:45Speaker 2: last week. However, we have Pete Hexeth that has fired
- 19:49Speaker 2: 12 generals lately in the Pentagon. And this goes back
- 19:54Speaker 2: to taking illegal orders. I have seen talking heads over
- 19:57Speaker 2: the weekend that said, well, maybe there'll be some generals
- 20:00Speaker 2: that say, we're not doing that. We're not going to
- 20:03Speaker 2: blow up the bridges. We're not going to blow up
- 20:05Speaker 2: the electrical grid because that is against international law. And
- 20:09Speaker 2: we're not going to do that. And then that gets
- 20:11Speaker 2: me back to what I've talked about for months now
- 20:13Speaker 2: that The Seditious Six, and they did the video about,
- 20:18Speaker 2: you know, don't follow illegal orders. I believe that's the
- 20:21Speaker 2: impeachment play for Donald Trump coming up after the midterms
- 20:25Speaker 2: and after January next year. We're going to have more
- 20:27Speaker 2: of this conversation coming up in minutes.
- 20:29Speaker 7: We pray for rain and thank him when it's falling
- 20:33Speaker 7: because it brings a grain and a little bit of money.
- 20:36Speaker 2: We put it back in the plate.
- 20:38Speaker 7: I guess that's why they call it God's country.
- 20:42Speaker 2: More Truth Be Told with Booker Scott in minutes on
- 20:45Speaker 2: America Out Loud. Someone asked me the other day, how
- 20:49Speaker 2: do you even get a sense of what's going to
- 20:51Speaker 2: happen next? It's hard. I don't know that we can,
- 20:54Speaker 2: the way the news moves so fast. But you know
- 20:57Speaker 2: what I told them? I said, I've been checking out
- 20:59Speaker 2: Poly Market a little bit. It's extremely insightful. You're basically
- 21:04Speaker 2: watching how thousands of people are betting on outcomes. Political elections,
- 21:09Speaker 2: big policy moves, even events you wouldn't expect. It's kind
- 21:14Speaker 2: of like a live pulse on what the public actually believes.
- 21:18Speaker 2: And you can see trends before they even happen and
- 21:22Speaker 2: before they even make the mainstream news. For me, it's
- 21:26Speaker 2: not about gambling. It's about understanding the probabilities and where
- 21:31Speaker 2: the momentum is shifting. If you like or love the
- 21:34Speaker 2: news like I do, maybe you're a news junkie, but
- 21:37Speaker 2: you want to take a little deeper look at what
- 21:39Speaker 2: people really think, go to Polymarket. It's a fascinating tool. Polymarket.com. Ooh.
- 21:56Speaker 2: Welcome back to The Truth Be Told. I'm Booker Scott
- 21:59Speaker 2: with Matt Palumbo here on a Monday night. A busy
- 22:01Speaker 2: week last week. We have more of that coming up.
- 22:04Speaker 2: We talked about the birthright citizenship. We're going to get
- 22:07Speaker 2: into a conversation about that briefly here. That oral argument
- 22:11Speaker 2: took place last week. It was interesting. We're going to
- 22:13Speaker 2: talk about that. But before we do, let's talk about
- 22:16Speaker 2: Pam Bondi because it's something that we have talked about
- 22:19Speaker 2: for a long time, probably a year. I know I've
- 22:23Speaker 2: talked about it really since the name was mentioned by
- 22:25Speaker 2: Donald Trump. I never thought she would get the job done.
- 22:28Speaker 2: She didn't get the job done. What are you reading
- 22:31Speaker 2: into this?
- 22:33Speaker 1: Thank God it's happening. It should have been quite a
- 22:36Speaker 1: long time ago. I mean, the second she lied about
- 22:39Speaker 1: the whole Epstein files on my desk and did that
- 22:42Speaker 1: whole stunt where she gave binders to influencers and told
- 22:45Speaker 1: them to hold them up. And, you know, we were
- 22:48Speaker 1: supposed to get the impression the files had been released.
- 22:51Speaker 1: I mean, just that stunt alone I thought was discrediting,
- 22:54Speaker 1: and if she's going to lie about something like that,
- 22:56Speaker 1: what else is she going to do? It seems that
- 22:59Speaker 1: the straw that broke the camel's back here was that
- 23:01Speaker 1: she had tipped off Eric Swalwell to the investigation or
- 23:08Speaker 1: the investigation to his associations with Feng Feng, the Chinese spy.
- 23:12Speaker 1: So that, I mean, that too is disqualifying if you're
- 23:16Speaker 1: going to help the other side for obvious reasons, and
- 23:19Speaker 1: it is funny in that someone observed that to work
- 23:22Speaker 1: for Trump, you have to be like a bit of
- 23:25Speaker 1: a sycophant, but you can't be too much of a
- 23:27Speaker 1: sycophant or else he loses all respect for you. And
- 23:29Speaker 1: that basically perfectly describes the downfall of Marjorie Taylor Greene
- 23:33Speaker 1: and Pam Bondi. Took it a little too far, and
- 23:36Speaker 1: then we're also kind of betraying him at the same
- 23:38Speaker 1: time with that public face. It's a bizarre combination to
- 23:40Speaker 1: see from someone, but thank God they're both gone.
- 23:43Speaker 2: Oh, something else that happened at the end of last
- 23:45Speaker 2: week was Kristi Noem, who is another one that got
- 23:49Speaker 2: shipped out of DHS. I don't know what she's doing now.
- 23:52Speaker 2: She's doing something in Central America, South America. Yeah, they
- 23:56Speaker 2: absolutely did. And by the way, last week, Corey Lewandowski
- 24:00Speaker 2: and her, they took a trip down there on a
- 24:02Speaker 2: government plane. Lewandowski, no longer a special government employee. As
- 24:07Speaker 2: he stretched that, you're only supposed to work 130 days
- 24:10Speaker 2: a year. Evidently, he was sneaking in in the car
- 24:13Speaker 2: of Kristi Noem and then you know, going around the
- 24:17Speaker 2: checkpoints to get around those 130 hours. So Lewandowski is out.
- 24:21Speaker 2: Kristi Noem is still in, sort of. Meanwhile, her husband is... Uh-oh.
- 24:27Speaker 1: Yeah. There's a big development here, folks. I'll let you
- 24:33Speaker 1: do the honors of explaining what exactly happened.
- 24:36Speaker 2: I'm not going to do that. Okay.
- 24:38Speaker 1: But it is.
- 24:40Speaker 2: What did you call it? A big what? It's a
- 24:42Speaker 2: couple of big problems.
- 24:44Speaker 1: Bimbofication?
- 24:45Speaker 2: Yeah, bimbofication. I had never heard of that word. Evidently,
- 24:49Speaker 2: it's a fetish. In the case of her husband, he
- 24:53Speaker 2: spent about $ 5, 000 with very, very large prosthetic breasts. He
- 25:01Speaker 2: did this online with the girl that was charging him
- 25:04Speaker 2: $ 20 a minute.
- 25:07Speaker 1: You know, who turned out to be an illegal alien
- 25:10Speaker 1: who I don't know how she knew that was Kristi
- 25:12Speaker 1: Noem's husband. But she she turned she revealed it to
- 25:17Speaker 1: get revenge against Kristi Noem for heading the DHS. So
- 25:20Speaker 1: I don't I don't know what the odds of some
- 25:23Speaker 1: like online bimbo Spanish person knowing who he is. Well,
- 25:29Speaker 1: the odds that I was even I didn't know who
- 25:30Speaker 1: he was. No. So maybe, I don't know if she
- 25:33Speaker 1: just Googles every client she has or if he somehow
- 25:35Speaker 1: mentioned it or what.
- 25:37Speaker 2: Well, it just dawned on me. Maybe she saw him
- 25:40Speaker 2: in the hearing that Kristi Noem was in. And it
- 25:44Speaker 2: was a few weeks ago and he was behind her.
- 25:46Speaker 2: And then maybe that's how she put it together. She said, well,
- 25:49Speaker 2: wait a minute. That's the guy with the big boobs.
- 25:52Speaker 2: And there's really no other way to say it, unfortunately.
- 25:56Speaker 2: But that's what he did. That's what he was into.
- 25:58Speaker 2: And that, you know, I put this out on a
- 26:01Speaker 2: post over the weekend. If you had this on your
- 26:03Speaker 2: bingo card. that Kristi Noem's husband would have a better
- 26:09Speaker 2: rack than she would, then you win it. You win
- 26:12Speaker 2: all of the conspiracy theories because nobody saw that one coming.
- 26:15Speaker 2: Let's get back.
- 26:17Speaker 1: I had a parlay on Kristi Noem's husband being into
- 26:20Speaker 1: bifurcation and Trump praising Allah on YouTube. So I turned
- 26:24Speaker 1: a dollar into $ 10 million.
- 26:25Speaker 2: I would imagine that would pay that kind of money.
- 26:28Speaker 2: Praising Allah, our president, praising Allah. Don't get me going
- 26:33Speaker 2: back there. Because I did pretty good. I was hot
- 26:35Speaker 2: about it Sunday on Easter, and I think I've calmed
- 26:38Speaker 2: down a little bit the last 24 hours.
- 26:40Speaker 1: My dad was pretty bothered by it, too.
- 26:42Speaker 2: Was he really?
- 26:42Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 26:43Speaker 1: It was just very, I don't know what the guy
- 26:45Speaker 1: was thinking, but trouble's making. Me either.
- 26:48Speaker 2: I get the phone out of his hand sometimes. Absolutely.
- 26:52Speaker 2: This was uncalled for, but we're going back there. I
- 26:54Speaker 2: want to stay here on Pam Bondi. That's where we're
- 26:56Speaker 2: talking about things. Who's in? Who's going to be the
- 27:00Speaker 2: new Attorney General? Right now, we have Todd Blanche, and
- 27:03Speaker 2: Blanche has 210 days is how long an acting Attorney
- 27:07Speaker 2: General can be in that job. Trump did this before
- 27:10Speaker 2: when Jeff Sessions left. He named Matt Whitaker as a
- 27:13Speaker 2: temporary before he got Bill Barr as the Attorney General. Hopefully,
- 27:17Speaker 2: we don't get anybody like Bill Barr again, but We
- 27:20Speaker 2: have Todd Blanche there. Now we have Harmeet Dhillon. And
- 27:24Speaker 2: one of the first names that pops up is Lee Zeldin,
- 27:27Speaker 2: who is in the EPA. Yeah, I do too. And
- 27:30Speaker 2: I think he would be good. The problem is he's
- 27:33Speaker 2: done a hell of a job right where he is.
- 27:36Speaker 2: The deregulation that he has done 10 to 1 in
- 27:40Speaker 2: that agency is going to make a huge difference. I
- 27:43Speaker 2: think we're going to start seeing it the back half
- 27:44Speaker 2: of this year. As a guy in administration, he's done
- 27:49Speaker 2: a phenomenal job. His experience as an attorney was a
- 27:52Speaker 2: JAG attorney in the reserves in the military for 20 years.
- 27:57Speaker 2: I don't know if that translates to attorney general, but
- 28:00Speaker 2: I love Lee Zeldin. I think he did a great
- 28:03Speaker 2: job in the House. I think he ran a great
- 28:05Speaker 2: race against Hochul last time. He was within three points.
- 28:08Speaker 2: It's unheard of in New York.
- 28:10Speaker 1: In New York.
- 28:11Speaker 2: And he also took along about five seats in the House.
- 28:15Speaker 2: When he ran such a good race in New York.
- 28:16Speaker 2: So I like Lee Zeldin a lot. I just don't know.
- 28:20Speaker 2: You know, the name that pops up for me is
- 28:22Speaker 2: the name that I've mentioned for well over a year.
- 28:24Speaker 2: And that's Andrew Bailey. And Andrew Bailey is the deputy
- 28:28Speaker 2: director of the FBI now. He was the attorney general
- 28:30Speaker 2: in Missouri that had incredible success in suing Joe Biden.
- 28:35Speaker 2: If not for Andrew Bailey, so many of the things
- 28:38Speaker 2: that Joe Biden was trying to accomplish would have been accomplished.
- 28:42Speaker 2: But it was him. It was Andrew Bailey. And before him,
- 28:45Speaker 2: it was Eric Schmidt, who is now a senator out
- 28:48Speaker 2: of the state of Missouri. And I don't think he's
- 28:50Speaker 2: going to be considered for because he just won a
- 28:53Speaker 2: race for six years, two years ago. So he's got
- 28:55Speaker 2: four years to go. I don't think he's going to
- 28:57Speaker 2: get out to, to wrestle with that. But Andrew Bailey
- 29:01Speaker 2: would be a good one. I think what are other
- 29:03Speaker 2: names that you're considering or thought about? Has anything popped
- 29:07Speaker 2: into your head?
- 29:07Speaker 1: Yeah. My number one pick is Matt Gates. Yeah, sure.
- 29:10Speaker 2: He still has to get confirmed, you know?
- 29:14Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 29:14Speaker 1: Nevermind that. Well, I think I'm acting for a hundred,
- 29:17Speaker 1: 130 something days. That'll be good. Um, No, I actually
- 29:22Speaker 1: haven't given it very much thought. But whoever it is,
- 29:24Speaker 1: we need someone who's kind of like a nut job
- 29:26Speaker 1: or at least is. But when I say nut job,
- 29:29Speaker 1: like someone who is like rhetorically speaking about like locking
- 29:32Speaker 1: up our enemies just to the left nose, like they
- 29:37Speaker 1: spent a decade doing it to us. There needs to
- 29:39Speaker 1: be some sort of. pushback finally. And we haven't really
- 29:42Speaker 1: seen anything near as much as I think we actually want.
- 29:45Speaker 1: We haven't really had the success as we want. So like, yeah,
- 29:48Speaker 1: I want a scorched earth kind of guy.
- 29:50Speaker 2: We've had no success, Matt, when it comes to the
- 29:52Speaker 2: Department of Justice. And I think that we are seeing
- 29:56Speaker 2: that in all of these elections. I think Donald Trump's
- 29:59Speaker 2: base is frustrated. Things have not gone like they thought
- 30:03Speaker 2: they would. There is no accountability for John Bolton, for
- 30:08Speaker 2: John Brennan. And by the way, those are still under
- 30:11Speaker 2: investigation in the grand jury down in South Florida. Jack
- 30:14Speaker 2: Smith and Arctic Frost, all of that is happening in
- 30:17Speaker 2: South Florida in a grand jury. But something needs to
- 30:20Speaker 2: happen before the midterms. Somebody needs to be perp-walked and
- 30:25Speaker 2: leg-shackled like Biden's DOJ did to Donald Trump's former people
- 30:32Speaker 2: like Peter Navarro and Steve Bannon. That needs to happen
- 30:36Speaker 2: because that will energize the base again for Donald Trump.
- 30:40Speaker 2: I think he knew that, and I think that's part
- 30:42Speaker 2: of the reason why Pam Bondi is gone at this point.
- 30:45Speaker 2: I think he knew, we've got to get some wins here.
- 30:48Speaker 2: Nothing is working. Letitia James was a slam dunk. Should
- 30:51Speaker 2: have been easy, and it, you know, wasn't. James Comey
- 30:54Speaker 2: was another one. It should have been easy, but it wasn't.
- 30:57Speaker 2: There were missteps there by Pam Bondi with Halligan, Lindsay Halligan,
- 31:01Speaker 2: in appointing her. So I think the base needs some
- 31:05Speaker 2: wins here. And I think that a good attorney general
- 31:08Speaker 2: and I don't know who it is. I think Andrew
- 31:10Speaker 2: Bailey would be a good one. I thought when he
- 31:12Speaker 2: went into the FBI, I thought maybe he was there
- 31:15Speaker 2: as a placeholder for when Donald Trump got ready to
- 31:18Speaker 2: do this. Evidently, Susie Wiles, you know, contrary to what
- 31:22Speaker 2: had been reported, she was supportive of getting rid of
- 31:25Speaker 2: Bondi a while ago. And that came out recently, and
- 31:29Speaker 2: you remember her Vanity Fair interview. She put a lot
- 31:33Speaker 2: of it on Pam Bondi just like we did with
- 31:36Speaker 2: the Epstein files. I really believe the Epstein files would
- 31:39Speaker 2: not have been a noose around Trump's neck for the
- 31:42Speaker 2: last year if it was not for Pam Bondi doing
- 31:45Speaker 2: what she did on Fox News with John Roberts and
- 31:47Speaker 2: then what you talked about with the influencers, the conservative influencers,
- 31:52Speaker 2: giving them binders of stuff everybody already knew. It didn't
- 31:57Speaker 2: help anything, and I think that the base needs some accountability.
- 32:02Speaker 1: Speaking of the Binders, Mike Cernovich said he was part
- 32:07Speaker 1: of that. He got invited in with him and the Binders,
- 32:10Speaker 1: and he said they were told by Bondi there was
- 32:13Speaker 1: no new information, even though they were all supposed to
- 32:17Speaker 1: be getting this impression that it was. So... It's just
- 32:20Speaker 1: a bizarre thing to give them the binders and go, OK,
- 32:24Speaker 1: by the way, I really summoned you here for no reason.
- 32:26Speaker 1: There's no new information, but go ahead and pretend there is.
- 32:29Speaker 1: It was just a total disaster. And now we're in
- 32:31Speaker 1: this news cycle where if Trump attacks Iran, then the
- 32:36Speaker 1: narrative becomes it's a distract from the Epstein files. And
- 32:40Speaker 1: it's ironic because the Epstein files are becoming the distraction themselves.
- 32:43Speaker 2: Did I send you that meme of an F-15 that
- 32:46Speaker 2: had been downed in the desert? and it had Epstein
- 32:49Speaker 2: files stacked up. Okay, I wasn't sure if I said
- 32:53Speaker 2: that to you or not. Pam Bondi, by the way,
- 32:57Speaker 2: she went to Stetson Law in St. Petersburg, Florida, where
- 33:01Speaker 2: I am. And local news here, they are going after
- 33:04Speaker 2: Pam Bondi. They want Stetson Law to come out and
- 33:07Speaker 2: denounce her. Here's a news story from Tampa Bay. Pam Bondi,
- 33:11Speaker 2: out as U.S. Attorney General.
- 33:13Speaker 1: And now pressure continues to mount on the campus of
- 33:16Speaker 1: Stetson Law in Gulfport.
- 33:18Speaker 2: Where Bondi earned her law degree in 1990.
- 33:20Speaker 8: If we're going to invest in the long-term value of
- 33:22Speaker 8: our degrees and the standing of our law school, the
- 33:27Speaker 8: dean of the law school needs to make a public
- 33:30Speaker 8: comment at this point.
- 33:32Speaker 2: They want a public comment from the dean at Stetson
- 33:35Speaker 2: Law about Pam Bondi. It's sort of amazing. I have
- 33:39Speaker 2: my opinion about her. I have since the beginning, but
- 33:43Speaker 2: it wouldn't go that far. What's the big deal about having...
- 33:46Speaker 2: an opinion from the dean at Stetson Law, say anything
- 33:50Speaker 2: about Pam Bondi? What does that do?
- 33:52Speaker 1: Well, they're going to try to get him to denounce her,
- 33:54Speaker 1: and then if it does, then he becomes a target,
- 33:56Speaker 1: and he knows that, so he's incentivized to denounce her,
- 33:58Speaker 1: I guess, is the, I don't know, the angle there
- 34:01Speaker 1: from there. It's just like cultural revolution type stuff, where
- 34:05Speaker 1: you endlessly have to get people's opinions on things as
- 34:08Speaker 1: a form of purity test.
- 34:10Speaker 2: Well, you mentioned Eric Swalwell. I have a clip of
- 34:13Speaker 2: him coming up here in just a minute talking about
- 34:16Speaker 2: how Donald Trump is weaponizing the Department of Justice, which
- 34:20Speaker 2: is gold to me. And before we do, I want
- 34:24Speaker 2: to play this meme. It's a short one. It's about
- 34:27Speaker 2: 30 seconds. But this is Donald Trump singing about releasing
- 34:32Speaker 2: Pam Bondi.
- 34:34Speaker 1: Another one bites the dust. Another one bites the dust.
- 34:41Speaker 5: Another one goes and another one goes.
- 34:43Speaker 2: Another one bites the dust.
- 34:46Speaker 9: You remember when she made that comment in the hearing?
- 34:57Speaker 2: I thought that was funny. So Pam Bondi is gone.
- 35:00Speaker 2: Donald Trump says she's moving on to private practice that
- 35:04Speaker 2: will really help the administration. I think that's just being nice.
- 35:08Speaker 2: But let's go to Eric Swalwell because He is talking
- 35:11Speaker 2: about the weaponization that Donald Trump is doing with the DOJ.
- 35:15Speaker 3: And it's not just all that's going to come out
- 35:17Speaker 3: on Epstein. It's all going to come out on how
- 35:20Speaker 3: they've weaponized the Department of Justice against the president's political opponents.
- 35:24Speaker 2: And so to the.
- 35:25Speaker 3: FBI agents who are being asked to break the law
- 35:28Speaker 3: every single day, what we want to make clear, and
- 35:31Speaker 3: I know this comes from Jamie Raskin and Robert Garcia,
- 35:34Speaker 3: who will have the subpoena power next Congress, you will
- 35:38Speaker 3: be protected if you come forward right now. If you
- 35:41Speaker 3: do not come forward right now and you enable more
- 35:43Speaker 3: corruption on Epstein or the weaponization, you will be before
- 35:46Speaker 3: Congress and it will all come out.
- 35:50Speaker 2: What evidence do you have that the FBI agents are
- 35:52Speaker 2: being asked to break the law every single day? Listen
- 35:54Speaker 2: to his answer.
- 35:55Speaker 3: This Washington Post reporting and New York Times reporting. that
- 35:58Speaker 3: they are being asked to essentially collude with the Chinese
- 36:02Speaker 3: government to interfere in the California governor's race. We've heard
- 36:06Speaker 3: about the efforts to fire FBI agents.
- 36:12Speaker 2: And, Matt, that's been the damn problem with the Democrats
- 36:14Speaker 2: ever since 2017 and the impeachments of Donald Trump. Their
- 36:19Speaker 2: only evidence, and they did this January 6, too. The
- 36:22Speaker 2: only evidence they use is the New York Times or
- 36:24Speaker 2: the Washington Post. They're not using real evidence that is corroborated.
- 36:28Speaker 2: But here he is trying to find another Eric Caramella
- 36:32Speaker 2: to come forward and be protected at all costs, to
- 36:35Speaker 2: be a whistleblower, to go against Donald Trump after the
- 36:39Speaker 2: Democrats take power a year from now in January 2027. Yeah,
- 36:42Speaker 2: and isn't he running for governor of California?
- 36:46Speaker 1: He is. He is, okay. Well, it's not to go
- 36:49Speaker 1: off topic, but he mentioned that. The way it works
- 36:52Speaker 1: in California is they're having a primary right now, and
- 36:56Speaker 1: the top two winners advance to the general election. But
- 37:02Speaker 1: when the California Democrats designed the system, they kind of
- 37:06Speaker 1: assumed it would always just be two Democrats that win
- 37:09Speaker 1: the primary and then go face off against each other.
- 37:12Speaker 1: So Right now, the two frontrunners are actually Republicans, and
- 37:18Speaker 1: they're only getting like 16 or 17 percent of the poll.
- 37:21Speaker 2: There's 28 people running. There's so many people running.
- 37:24Speaker 1: Because it's like 10 people running. So the Democrat vote
- 37:27Speaker 1: is split, is so fractured that two Republicans are actually
- 37:31Speaker 1: right now looking like they're favored to win with less
- 37:34Speaker 1: than 20 percent of the vote each. And then you
- 37:35Speaker 1: have a California governor's race where it's two Republicans against
- 37:39Speaker 1: each other because California never made it. So the primary
- 37:42Speaker 1: is specific by like which party is first or second.
- 37:46Speaker 1: So it is possible that it's going to be two
- 37:49Speaker 1: Republicans versus like some right off Democrat in that race.
- 37:53Speaker 1: But to go back to his point, so that's a
- 37:55Speaker 1: funny aside. I, you know, if Trump is weaponized in
- 37:59Speaker 1: the Department of Justice, God, I hope Swalwell is right
- 38:02Speaker 1: that he is because. That is what we voted for.
- 38:04Speaker 1: And as we were saying in the last segment, that's
- 38:06Speaker 1: exactly what the base wants.
- 38:08Speaker 2: Well, at this point, if he is weaponizing the Department
- 38:11Speaker 2: of Justice, he sucks at it because nobody has been arrested.
- 38:16Speaker 2: Nobody has been put in leg shackles. Nobody has been convicted.
- 38:21Speaker 2: So if that is the case, then he sucks at it.
- 38:24Speaker 2: And getting back to that California race, Steve Hilton is leading.
- 38:29Speaker 2: Sheriff Chad Bianco is second right now. Those are the
- 38:32Speaker 2: two Republicans that are leading the California primaries in the
- 38:36Speaker 2: polls right now. It may not end that way. Eric Swalwell,
- 38:39Speaker 2: we were just talking about him. He is in third
- 38:41Speaker 2: right now in those same polls. We have more of
- 38:43Speaker 2: the conversation coming up. We're going to get into birthright citizenship.
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- 39:45Speaker 2: Tonight at 9 o'clock, it is After Dark with Robin Andrew.
- 39:47Speaker 2: Before that, the National Security Hour. And starting in just
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- 39:54Speaker 2: Booker Scott here with Matt Palumbo. Matt, we talked about
- 39:57Speaker 2: birthright citizenship last week. We heard the oral arguments last week.
- 40:01Speaker 2: What do you think coming out of that? What's your
- 40:04Speaker 2: gut tell you?
- 40:05Speaker 1: Well, I thought Trump's lawyers did a good job. I
- 40:08Speaker 1: thought Katonji Brown Jackson once again made a fool of herself.
- 40:11Speaker 1: I thought the ACLU lawyers declamed themselves, but... The consensus
- 40:16Speaker 1: seems to be the opposite, that based on the questions
- 40:18Speaker 1: the judges were asking and the responses, that they are
- 40:20Speaker 1: going to uphold birthright citizenship. I mean, Amy Coney Barrett,
- 40:25Speaker 1: which I thought was depressing, had concerns about how complicated
- 40:29Speaker 1: it would be for people who are– like how complicated
- 40:33Speaker 1: it would be if you were born here to illegals
- 40:35Speaker 1: or if you were someone who was just born and
- 40:38Speaker 1: got citizenship. How would that work out? And all these
- 40:40Speaker 1: things that I think are kind of irrelevant to– whether
- 40:43Speaker 1: or not it should exist. And then on polymarket, it's
- 40:47Speaker 1: basically right now 96% that birthright citizenship gets upheld, which
- 40:52Speaker 1: is an insane percentage. So it's very depressing because it
- 40:56Speaker 1: is one of the most destructive policies we have in
- 40:59Speaker 1: effect right now. And we've talked about in the past
- 41:02Speaker 1: why we don't think it's in the Constitution. One of
- 41:05Speaker 1: the men who crafted the 14th Amendment himself said that
- 41:08Speaker 1: it's not.
- 41:11Speaker 1: Supposed to apply to people whose parents are not citizens.
- 41:14Speaker 1: And I don't know what the court's ruling is going
- 41:17Speaker 1: to be when they win or if they uphold it.
- 41:19Speaker 2: Well, there are a couple of things here. And I've
- 41:21Speaker 2: said for a year that I did not think that
- 41:24Speaker 2: this was going to work. I thought that this would
- 41:26Speaker 2: be one of the few, and it's interesting that it
- 41:29Speaker 2: is one of the few that Donald Trump would lose
- 41:32Speaker 2: because his record in the Supreme Court, 24 wins, four losses.
- 41:37Speaker 2: That's pretty good. And I point that out because so
- 41:39Speaker 2: many people get frustrated at judges like Boasberg and all
- 41:43Speaker 2: these activist judges, and they think the judicial system is
- 41:46Speaker 2: not working. I think it is working because that 24-4
- 41:50Speaker 2: record that Donald Trump has in the Supreme Court, ultimately
- 41:53Speaker 2: the Supreme Court has to decide. Everything is not black
- 41:56Speaker 2: and white in law, and I think people think that
- 41:58Speaker 2: it is. If it were, you wouldn't need a Supreme Court,
- 42:01Speaker 2: if it was that simple, because there is interpretation. And
- 42:04Speaker 2: I think the interesting part about this birthright citizenship argument
- 42:08Speaker 2: is typically the conservative justices, they really rely on what
- 42:13Speaker 2: the previous courts have said, the precedents. What has the
- 42:16Speaker 2: precedent been? And the precedent in the court has been
- 42:19Speaker 2: that if you're born in America, you are an American.
- 42:23Speaker 2: So you're going to ask them to go against what
- 42:25Speaker 2: they normally do. But also, ironically, the liberal judges are
- 42:29Speaker 2: going directly by the word of the 14th Amendment, which
- 42:34Speaker 2: normally they stretch and go the opposite direction and create
- 42:37Speaker 2: their own. So it's kind of weird that these justices
- 42:40Speaker 2: are doing the opposite or being asked to do the
- 42:43Speaker 2: opposite of what they normally would do in this case.
- 42:46Speaker 1: Yeah, I am going to be curious to read the
- 42:49Speaker 1: court's ruling to see what did I miss and I
- 42:52Speaker 1: got it wrong. I really just thought it was so
- 42:54Speaker 1: clear cut. There's no way this could be upheld.
- 42:58Speaker 2: Let's go to some sound. Let's listen to Justice Alito here.
- 43:02Speaker 2: He's in this birthright citizenship oral argument. And here he
- 43:05Speaker 2: is with the Solicitor General, John Sauer of the White House.
- 43:09Speaker 3: Hello.
- 43:10Speaker 7: Normally, you would think that a person who is subject
- 43:14Speaker 7: to arrest at any time and removal could not establish domicile.
- 43:20Speaker 7: But we have an unusual situation here because our immigration
- 43:25Speaker 7: laws have been ineffectively and in some instances unenthusiastically enforced
- 43:34Speaker 7: by federal officials. So There are people who are subject
- 43:42Speaker 7: to removal at any time if they are apprehended and
- 43:46Speaker 7: they go through the proper procedures. But they have, in
- 43:52Speaker 7: their minds, made a permanent home here and have established roots.
- 43:58Speaker 7: And that raises a humanitarian problem. And I wonder if
- 44:02Speaker 7: you could address that.
- 44:05Speaker 2: If I may, one legal and one humanitarian.
- 44:06Speaker 10: The legal point is if you look at those cases,
- 44:08Speaker 10: for example, Carson against Reed, Park against Barr, this court's
- 44:11Speaker 10: decisions in Elkins and Toll against Marino, they talk about
- 44:14Speaker 10: the legal capacity to create a domicile excluding someone who
- 44:19Speaker 10: may have the subjective intent, which otherwise would be determinative
- 44:24Speaker 10: as being excluded. On the humanitarian point, I would point out,
- 44:26Speaker 10: as I said at the beginning, Justice Alito, that the
- 44:29Speaker 10: United States rule of nearly unrestricted birthright citizenship is an
- 44:32Speaker 10: outlier among modern nations. It's a very small minority of
- 44:36Speaker 10: nations that.
- 44:37Speaker 1: Have that rule.
- 44:37Speaker 10: For example, every nation in Europe has a different rule,
- 44:42Speaker 10: and the notion that they have a huge humanitarian crisis
- 44:45Speaker 10: as a result of not having unrestricted birthright citizenship I
- 44:48Speaker 10: don't think is a strong argument. And I point out, obviously,
- 44:53Speaker 10: for reliance-related reasons, this executive order applies only prospectively, and
- 44:57Speaker 10: we ask the court to rule only prospectively.
- 44:59Speaker 2: What do you make of that, Matt? What do you
- 45:01Speaker 2: think of that argument?
- 45:02Speaker 1: Well, the part where he's pointing out that it's not
- 45:05Speaker 1: really seen anywhere else in the rest of the world.
- 45:07Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean, it's... Does that matter? Does it
- 45:11Speaker 2: matter what the rest of the world does?
- 45:13Speaker 1: Well, that is the thing. I mean, because they always
- 45:15Speaker 1: do that on the left with guns. Like, you know,
- 45:18Speaker 1: no one in Europe would have our gun laws. And
- 45:21Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't care. We're not Europe. It's... You know,
- 45:27Speaker 1: it is one of those cases where I'm a hypocrite
- 45:29Speaker 1: and that I do think that, yes, we should be
- 45:31Speaker 1: like Europe in that regard. But it's not because they're Europe.
- 45:34Speaker 1: It's because I think the policy is just common sense.
- 45:36Speaker 1: They're not up for citizenship. And also, as European countries recognize,
- 45:41Speaker 1: like they are. And you also see this in the
- 45:44Speaker 1: Scandinavian countries that are more like quasi-socialists that have very
- 45:48Speaker 1: big welfare states. They're actually very tough on immigration. Even
- 45:52Speaker 1: the Social Democrats in Denmark are deporting migrants. And not
- 45:58Speaker 1: only are they deporting migrants, they are confiscating goods from
- 46:02Speaker 1: migrants to fund the deportations.
- 46:05Speaker 2: Well, unlike America, they know that they can't keep allowing
- 46:08Speaker 2: them in and have their systems work.
- 46:13Speaker 1: These are countries where, for some reason on the right,
- 46:17Speaker 1: people will say like, you know, those policies work in Scandinavia,
- 46:20Speaker 1: but it's because they're small countries or homogeneous, blah, blah, blah.
- 46:25Speaker 1: I wouldn't say they work. I would say they're the
- 46:26Speaker 1: best case scenario. But Sweden, for instance, is a country
- 46:29Speaker 1: where the lowest tax bracket or the lowest tax rate,
- 46:33Speaker 1: and this applies to your first kroner of income, and
- 46:36Speaker 1: they have no standard deduction. It's 32%. The sales tax
- 46:41Speaker 1: in Norway, Sweden, Denmark is 25%. So you can be
- 46:45Speaker 1: a minimum wage worker and you're paying over half your income. Now,
- 46:48Speaker 1: why this is relevant is because the fund, the sort
- 46:51Speaker 1: of cradle to grave welfare states they have in Northern Europe,
- 46:55Speaker 1: You don't have very much room for error. And that
- 46:57Speaker 1: if you have a single migrant come in who pays
- 47:00Speaker 1: a grand a year in taxes and takes 30 grand
- 47:02Speaker 1: a year out of the system, the whole thing just
- 47:05Speaker 1: collapses and they recognize that. So I do think we
- 47:08Speaker 1: can learn from their– You know, acceptance of fiscal reality,
- 47:14Speaker 1: because no one in our country, none of the left
- 47:18Speaker 1: in our country will acknowledge that it is people on
- 47:20Speaker 1: the left in those countries will acknowledge it. So that
- 47:23Speaker 1: is something we can learn. But you are correct when
- 47:25Speaker 1: it comes to whether or not the Supreme Court should
- 47:27Speaker 1: decide one way or another. What Europe has to say
- 47:30Speaker 1: doesn't really matter.
- 47:31Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I don't care what Europe has to
- 47:34Speaker 2: say at all. Because I want to talk about NATO, too,
- 47:37Speaker 2: before this hour is up, if we have enough time.
- 47:40Speaker 2: Stay here on this birthright citizenship, because another concern is China.
- 47:45Speaker 2: And we talked about that case from 1898. It's something
- 47:49Speaker 2: I've referenced for about a year now. And that was
- 47:52Speaker 2: that ARC case. They brought it up many times in
- 47:55Speaker 2: oral arguments. But there are many companies in China that
- 48:00Speaker 2: are bringing people here to America to only have the babies.
- 48:04Speaker 2: And they're becoming dual citizens. So in my mind, I'm thinking, well,
- 48:09Speaker 2: China always plays the long game. Are we going to
- 48:12Speaker 2: have a president one day that has a dual citizenship
- 48:15Speaker 2: in China and America? You know, 50 years from now,
- 48:19Speaker 2: who knows?
- 48:20Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's the thing. Maybe one way we can
- 48:22Speaker 1: explain this to liberals, because it's not just China. Russia
- 48:24Speaker 1: and China are both known for doing the sort of
- 48:27Speaker 1: birthright citizenship tourism, where they'll come here on vacation, eat
- 48:30Speaker 1: while it's pregnant. And I actually saw on Twitter the
- 48:33Speaker 1: other day, someone posted a graph of it was births
- 48:36Speaker 1: in America by ethnicity. And Chinese births went down something
- 48:43Speaker 1: like 50% during COVID, while for every other group, it
- 48:46Speaker 1: was like 10% or 15%. Now, obviously, this includes Chinese
- 48:50Speaker 1: people that are in America legally as citizens giving birth.
- 48:53Speaker 1: But there must have been so many also coming along
- 48:57Speaker 1: from China because of 50% decline during COVID. Yeah. Yeah,
- 49:01Speaker 1: these are major problems. And one of the other things
- 49:02Speaker 1: I think we talked about on a different show was,
- 49:05Speaker 1: you know, if you and I got a work from
- 49:08Speaker 1: home job or, you know, did the show from another country,
- 49:13Speaker 1: we still have to pay taxes to America because we're U.S. citizens,
- 49:17Speaker 1: even if we move to France or something. Yeah. babies
- 49:20Speaker 1: born here at Birthright Citizenship who then go back to
- 49:23Speaker 1: their home countries, their real country, are they paying tax
- 49:28Speaker 1: to the U.S.? And it's one of those things where
- 49:31Speaker 1: basically every single one of them is probably committing some
- 49:34Speaker 1: form of tax evasion that will never hold them accountable for,
- 49:37Speaker 1: in addition to all the other problems at Birthright Citizenship.
- 49:39Speaker 2: Let's go to Justice Roberts, Chief Justice Roberts. He's talking
- 49:43Speaker 2: about this again with the Solicitor General, John Sauer. It's
- 49:47Speaker 2: a great question.
- 49:48Speaker 1: No one knows for sure.
- 49:49Speaker 10: There's a March 9th letter from a number of members
- 49:51Speaker 10: of Congress to DHS saying, do we have any information
- 49:54Speaker 10: about this? The media reports indicate, estimates could be over
- 49:58Speaker 10: a million or 1.5 million from the People's Republic of
- 50:02Speaker 10: China alone. The congressional report.
- 50:04Speaker 2: That we cite in... He's talking about babies born here
- 50:07Speaker 2: in America. 1 million to 1.5 million from this. Let's
- 50:13Speaker 2: keep going.
- 50:13Speaker 10: Our brief talks about certain hotspots like Russian elites coming
- 50:17Speaker 10: to Miami through these birth tourism companies. And here's the
- 50:21Speaker 10: facts about it that I think is striking. Media reported
- 50:24Speaker 10: as early as 2015 that based on Chinese media reports,
- 50:28Speaker 10: there are 500, 500 birth tourism companies in the People's
- 50:32Speaker 10: Republic of China whose business is to bring people here
- 50:36Speaker 10: to give birth and return to to that nation.
- 50:40Speaker 4: Having said all that, you do agree that it has
- 50:43Speaker 4: no impact on the legal analysis before us?
- 50:46Speaker 10: I think it's, I'd quote what Justice Scalia said in
- 50:48Speaker 10: his Hamdan dissent, where their interpretation has these implications that
- 50:53Speaker 10: could not possibly have been approved by the 19th century
- 50:57Speaker 10: framers of this amendment. I think that shows that they've
- 51:01Speaker 10: made a mess, their interpretation has made a mess of
- 51:03Speaker 10: the provision.
- 51:03Speaker 8: Well, it certainly wasn't a problem in the 19th century.
- 51:07Speaker 10: No, but of course, we're in a new world now,
- 51:09Speaker 10: as Justice Alito pointed out to you, where 8 billion
- 51:11Speaker 10: people are one plane ride away from having a child
- 51:14Speaker 10: who's a U.S.
- 51:14Speaker 4: Citizen.
- 51:15Speaker 8: Well, it's a new world.
- 51:16Speaker 1: It's the same Constitution.
- 51:17Speaker 2: Bam. And I think that goes to what I said
- 51:20Speaker 2: when we started talking about this. The conservative justices usually
- 51:25Speaker 2: go with court precedent. And that's what he's referencing there.
- 51:28Speaker 2: Because of that, I think this is going to be
- 51:30Speaker 2: a 7-2 decision. I think you're going to have Alito
- 51:33Speaker 2: and Thomas sitting out and dissenting on this. And I
- 51:36Speaker 2: think the rest of them, they're going to uphold it.
- 51:38Speaker 2: And so you can't do this executive action here, Donald Trump.
- 51:42Speaker 2: What do you think? What do you think the number
- 51:44Speaker 2: will be?
- 51:46Speaker 1: What I'm reading as well. And yes, the whole of
- 51:47Speaker 1: the new world, but same constitution. I mean, you and
- 51:50Speaker 1: I have probably said something very similar when it comes
- 51:52Speaker 1: to liberals talking about the second amendment saying, oh, they
- 51:56Speaker 1: never could have imagined the types of guns that would
- 51:58Speaker 1: exist today, you know, as if that is, you know,
- 52:01Speaker 1: wouldn't have realized that, yes, guns get more advanced every year.
- 52:04Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure they were able to witness that
- 52:06Speaker 1: when they were alive. I just, I really just never,
- 52:10Speaker 1: I really just don't believe that the fourth amendment is
- 52:13Speaker 1: supposed to enable and was preferred citizenship. So I don't know.
- 52:16Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see why I'm wrong if I am.
- 52:20Speaker 2: It'll be interesting to read it when it comes out.
- 52:23Speaker 2: I agree with you. I would love to see this,
- 52:26Speaker 2: you know, be approved for Donald Trump, but I just
- 52:30Speaker 2: don't think that it is on the legal question. And
- 52:32Speaker 2: sometimes we forget it's about a very narrow legal question.
- 52:36Speaker 2: And then the other part of it is if they
- 52:38Speaker 2: were to decide to go along with Donald Trump, what
- 52:41Speaker 2: do they do for a 90-year-old that has been an
- 52:44Speaker 2: American citizen that was born here 90 years ago, but
- 52:48Speaker 2: his parents were from another country? He is now no
- 52:50Speaker 2: longer an American citizen. How do you put that paste
- 52:53Speaker 2: back in the tube?
- 52:54Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if it would be retroactive or
- 52:57Speaker 1: just apply to future roofs. I assumed for optics purposes
- 53:03Speaker 1: they wouldn't try to repeal it retroactively.
- 53:07Speaker 2: But then you have 15 million that are in here illegal.
- 53:10Speaker 2: There's more than that, but just the last four years
- 53:12Speaker 2: you have 10 to 15 million illegal. And that's what
- 53:15Speaker 2: this is all about in addition to China and Russia.
- 53:18Speaker 2: Real quick about... Go ahead, Matt.
- 53:21Speaker 1: The way to do it smart would just be to
- 53:22Speaker 1: have a cutoff of if you were born here as
- 53:24Speaker 1: an anchor, maybe after such and such year. Yeah. And,
- 53:26Speaker 1: you know, something that's sympathetic or something. But yes, because
- 53:31Speaker 1: the problem is if there was one single anchor, maybe
- 53:34Speaker 1: who's now 90 years old that got supported, that will
- 53:37Speaker 1: be the number one media story for the next three or,
- 53:40Speaker 1: you know, for the next year or whatever, all midterms.
- 53:42Speaker 1: They'll never set up about it.
- 53:43Speaker 2: Well, there needs to be legislation. That would be the
- 53:46Speaker 2: answer to it. That is never going to happen in
- 53:48Speaker 2: this Congress. Real quick about NATO, though. I am fed
- 53:52Speaker 2: up with NATO. What do we need them for at
- 53:56Speaker 2: this point? We are 60% of their budget.
- 53:59Speaker 1: We are NATO.
- 54:00Speaker 2: Yeah, we are NATO. We have 100,000 boots on the ground. Actually,
- 54:03Speaker 2: someone corrected me and said, well, everybody's got two feet.
- 54:06Speaker 2: It's 200,000. That's correct. There's 200,000 boots on the ground
- 54:10Speaker 2: in Europe right now spending the night. I'm done with NATO.
- 54:15Speaker 2: I'm done with a lot of stuff right now, Matt.
- 54:17Speaker 2: I really am. But let's pay attention to what happens
- 54:21Speaker 2: in about 24 hours from right now, because that is
- 54:24Speaker 2: the deadline Donald Trump put on Iran to come to
- 54:27Speaker 2: the table. If they don't, bombs away, bridges down. infrastructure,
- 54:32Speaker 2: electrical grids. That's what's coming to us now, and we'll
- 54:36Speaker 2: pay attention to that. We'll get together next week and
- 54:38Speaker 2: talk about that.
- 54:39Speaker 1: And also praise Allah. No, just kidding.
- 54:43Speaker 2: Praise Allah.
- 54:43Speaker 1: Great. Yeah.
- 54:45Speaker 2: We'll leave this hour with that. Praise Allah. That's the
- 54:48Speaker 2: perfect way to end this hour. Matt, thank you so much.
- 54:50Speaker 2: Have a great week. We'll see you next Monday night.
- 54:53Speaker 2: And don't forget, you were told 2,000 years ago that
- 54:56Speaker 2: you are the salt of the earth. And salt without flavor,
- 54:59Speaker 2: it has no value. So whatever you do, keep being salty.
- 55:03Speaker 2: Have a great night. There is only one truth. You've
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