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Toy Story 5, ANTM Lawsuit & Is The Handbag Over? · Two Broke Chicks

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Speaker 1: star but also you are like a nostalgia pop culture queen,
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Speaker 1: so who better to have on to chat? What's the tea?
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Speaker 1: On the internet over the last couple of weeks? So, al,
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Speaker 1: what's the tea?
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Speaker 3: Okay, my tea is? Did you guys see that Tyra
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Speaker 3: Banks is suing Netflix over the America's Next Top Model documentary?
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Speaker 2: Wasn't she in a producer on it? Well?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, on the docu series.
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Speaker 3: No, I don't know if she was a producer, but
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Speaker 3: she was on it. Yeah. Yeah, So the tea is that? Obviously.
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Speaker 3: Tyra Banks is a model, a TV presenter, producer, an
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Speaker 3: actress who has now filed a defamation lawsuit against Netflix
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Speaker 3: and the directors of the docu series reality Check Inside
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Speaker 3: America's Next Top Model, which was released earlier this year
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Speaker 3: in February. Did you guys watch the docu series? Yeah?
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Speaker 2: It was. It was great. I mean, it was harrowing
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Speaker 2: and so so many moments. But I think it was
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Speaker 2: interesting the way that they positioned it though, because they
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Speaker 2: would show all these bad things that Tyra allegedly did,
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Speaker 2: and then it would pan to her She's like, I
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Speaker 2: didn't do anything wrong.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so she filed the lawsuit on Saturday in
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Speaker 3: Los Angeles Federal Court, alleging that the producers stripped down
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Speaker 3: hours of interview footage and testimony to build a false narrative.
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Speaker 3: So the lawsuit is against Netflix eighty nine blocks holding
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Speaker 3: ever won to studio Netflix Music and co directors more
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Speaker 3: Laoshi and Daniel Savahn, and the lawsuit includes suing for
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Speaker 3: false light, defamation by implication, breach of contract, and false
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Speaker 3: endorsement because she says that her interview was three and
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Speaker 3: a half hours, and she says she took responsibility for
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Speaker 3: some of the show's controversial actions in that three and
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Speaker 3: a half hours. However, in the show, this was condensed
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Speaker 3: to around sixteen minutes of content which was manipulated to
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Speaker 3: support a false and defamatory narrative unrelated to what she
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Speaker 3: actually expressed.
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Speaker 1: That's interesting because I would love to know what was
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Speaker 1: left on the cutting room floor. I have no doubt
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Speaker 1: that obviously they have manipulated the footage in some way
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Speaker 1: to tell the story, whether or not that is, you know,
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Speaker 1: extremely exaggerating the truth, or if it is in line
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Speaker 1: with the truth, Like obviously we don't know that, but
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Speaker 1: like I'm sure, but also wouldn't that be the process
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Speaker 1: for most documentaries, that the interviews would go for hours
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Speaker 1: and then you'd end up with like twenty minutes of footage.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I also think I'm not sitting here counting, but
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Speaker 3: she felt like she had more than sixteen minutes fare time.
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Speaker 1: In the show.
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Speaker 3: I would love to know, though, Yeah, I surely can
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Speaker 3: someone go back and count. Yeah, But I think what's
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Speaker 3: a very interesting point to this is that some of
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Speaker 3: the contestants from the show have come back to her
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Speaker 3: and this lawsuit and said, well, isn't that exactly what
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Speaker 3: was done to us?
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Speaker 2: Exactly? That's how reality TV works, right, And we saw
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Speaker 2: so many of the stories of the girls on that
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Speaker 2: show and what they went through and how much they
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Speaker 2: were manipulated when they were on it, and it's like, well,
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Speaker 2: now the table turn.
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Speaker 3: So Adrian Curry, who won cycle one of the reality
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Speaker 3: competition series, reacted after Tyra filed a lawsuit over netflix
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Speaker 3: Docky series, and she posted on social media on Sunday
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Speaker 3: addressing the news saying, I read that Tyra Banks is
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Speaker 3: suing Netflix because she didn't like being edited, at which
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Speaker 3: point in the video she laughs and then says bitch
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Speaker 3: for real Girl. She also captured the post with Welcome
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Speaker 3: to the Party. Power as well as some former contestants
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Speaker 3: at the time of the DOCKU series released defended Tyra
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Speaker 3: and the production, so Cycle A winner Jaslene Gonzalez says
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Speaker 3: she's grateful for Tarra and for her help in furthering
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Speaker 3: her career. Publicist Kelly Katrone, who appeared as a panelist
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Speaker 3: on cycles eighteen to twenty two, was also complementary of
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Speaker 3: Tyra's work. So it's very interesting to see how this
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Speaker 3: is all coming together because also included in the suit
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Speaker 3: was the false narrative of the producers, constructed through selective editing,
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Speaker 3: deliberate omission, and surgical manipulation of continuous footage. Included that
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Speaker 3: Miss Banks knowingly allowed a contestant to be sexually assaulted
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Speaker 3: on her show, exploited that contestant's trauma for ratings, and
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Speaker 3: then could not even remember it when asked. So that
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Speaker 3: was quite a very seriousness against storyline, and that is
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Speaker 3: being addressed in this lawsuit directly that her reaction to
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Speaker 3: that has been manipulated.
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Speaker 1: Which I could understand if she genuinely did feel that
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Speaker 1: way like that would be awful, yes, yes, but yeah,
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Speaker 1: I guess that's the thing. We just don't know what
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Speaker 1: the truth exactly.
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Speaker 3: I do think what, like, what would be probably the
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Speaker 3: best step forward is might release the tape, like release
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Speaker 3: the footage, which with these things tend to happen like
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Speaker 3: they end up like I'm not a lawyer, shock, but
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Speaker 3: they end up like subpoenoring thing. And then I also
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Speaker 3: saw that her lawyers wrote that she wasn't allowed to
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Speaker 3: review the docu series until the day before it was released, and.
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Speaker 1: It's like, by that point it's too late. Going, yeah, like,
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Speaker 1: if anything, it means that you can perhaps like prepare
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Speaker 1: any sort of press release or comment that you want
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Speaker 1: to make, but in terms of actually editing or making changes,
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Speaker 1: like that's probably not going to happen.
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Speaker 2: That is so wild.
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Speaker 3: I do think like it's it's going to be very
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Speaker 3: interesting to see because you know, if what she's stating
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Speaker 3: is true, I just think that's so disappointed. Need to
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Speaker 3: you know, use a woman as like the skapegoat of
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Speaker 3: the editing. But again, there's also a lot of other
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Speaker 3: stories and not even stories, but like claims from contestants
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Speaker 3: that are also incredibly valid, important and need to be heard.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, well I think I remember when I brought
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Speaker 1: the documentary or the docuseries to I think it was
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Speaker 1: a wats tee a few months ago when it first
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Speaker 1: came out. I did mention that I felt like when
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Speaker 1: watching it that Tyra did take the fall for the
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Speaker 1: majority of it, and which makes sense because she was,
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Speaker 1: you know, like an executive producer or whatever her role was.
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Speaker 1: She's the face of it. Like, I can understand why
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Speaker 1: people all pointed the finger at her, but I thought
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Speaker 1: that that was interesting that yes, like there were a
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Speaker 1: few other people mentioned in the docu series, but it
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Speaker 1: mainly was put on her. And I'm not saying that
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Speaker 1: like that is you know, it's unfair because we don't
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Speaker 1: know the level of her involvement. We know is what
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Speaker 1: we've seen. But I remember thinking that and.
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Speaker 3: Being like, oh, at the end of the day, I
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Speaker 3: think the things that were said on this show, the
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Speaker 3: challenges these women will put through at the end of
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Speaker 3: the day, were just fucked Yeah, like it was yeah,
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Speaker 3: like it was just a fucked up show.
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Speaker 2: What about the Greek salad photo shoot? Oh yeah, the
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Speaker 2: giant salad. Imagine wasting that olive oil in this economy.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so with oil and who's going to get booked
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Speaker 1: from doing that? Like, no one, your hair be stinky?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, I think this will be very interesting
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Speaker 3: to see how this unfolds. But yeah, that's that's the tea.
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Speaker 1: That's the tea.
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Speaker 1: Okay, a bit of a tone shift star, what's the tea?
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Speaker 2: The tea? This week, girlies, Toy Story five has finally
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Speaker 2: hit cinemas and I just cannot get enough. I love
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Speaker 2: the Toy Story franchise so much. What's your favorite Toy
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Speaker 2: Story film?
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Speaker 3: First? Two?
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Speaker 1: My way be one or two?
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Speaker 3: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I have got some fun facts for you,
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Speaker 2: girlies about Toy Story.
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Speaker 3: Have you seen Toy Story five?
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Speaker 2: I saw it last night.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I no spoilers, but I've seen a lot of
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Speaker 3: people saying that they literally were sobbing.
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Speaker 2: I was crying so much. I don't know if it
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Speaker 2: was just because period as well, that really accumulated to
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Speaker 2: the amount of tears that was streaming out of my face.
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Speaker 2: But it is just all about girlhood and connection and
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Speaker 2: being whimsical and staying silly in your life. And I
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Speaker 2: just think it's going to be a really, really important film.
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Speaker 2: I was on the bus coming here this morning and
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Speaker 2: it just made me reflect so much on my life
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Speaker 2: and my behaviors, like a little toy is having this
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Speaker 2: effect on me. So that's when you know Pixar, they
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Speaker 2: really know how to how to pull on the heart strings.
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Speaker 2: But Toy Story is actually a very interesting franchise because,
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Speaker 2: as we know, my brain is full of fun, silly
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Speaker 2: pop culture facts. I don't know where my birth certificate is,
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Speaker 2: but I tell you all about Toy Story. So let's
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Speaker 2: rewind back to nineteen ninety five, which is when the
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Speaker 2: first Toy Story film was released. Did you know this
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Speaker 2: was the first fully computer animated feature film ever. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: so that is massive. So we had little bits of
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Speaker 2: computer animation and things like Tron and other films, but
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Speaker 2: Toy Story was really revolutionary in that sense. And it's
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Speaker 2: funny when you go back and you look at the
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Speaker 2: animation because it looks a bit shocked.
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Speaker 1: Sid I had the biggest crush on him when I
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Speaker 1: was a little kid.
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Speaker 2: I love she loves a bad boy because he's got
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Speaker 2: his little spik this.
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Speaker 1: Little like skull t shirt.
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Speaker 3: I liked his dog Scud.
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Speaker 2: I think his name is Sid and Scutt. Yeah, love that, Okay.
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Speaker 2: So then we fast forward to Toy Sorrow too. So
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Speaker 2: the first Toy Story was incredibly successful by all feeds.
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Speaker 2: Amazing story, really cool animation. And then we get to
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Speaker 2: Toy Story too. And this was in a really interesting
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Speaker 2: era for Disney because they just come out of the
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Speaker 2: Renaissance era, which is where things like Beauty and the Beast,
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Speaker 2: Little Mermaid, all these really really successful films were happening,
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Speaker 2: and then they were doing direct to video sequels. So
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Speaker 2: remember when we were kids, like you could buy Cinderella
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Speaker 2: two or Little Murmaid all these random videos where the
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Speaker 2: story well sorry, Ariel's daughter's name.
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Speaker 3: Melody and then more Ghana.
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Speaker 2: I do know that you girls know every single word
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Speaker 2: to every Disney song and I learned that, and wow,
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Speaker 2: I love you even more for that now. But so
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Speaker 2: with Toy Story two, Disney originally wanted it to be
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Speaker 2: a direct to video sequel. Toy Story two is one
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Speaker 2: of the greatest sequels, not only just sequels, greatest films ever.
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Speaker 2: So they were originally pushing for it to go direct
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Speaker 2: to video and we know, we love Little Mermaid too,
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Speaker 2: but can you imagine how different the story would have
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Speaker 2: been because the budget would have been way lower. It
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Speaker 2: would have been a completely different film. And Pixar were like, no,
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Speaker 2: we're going to gun for this. We're going to push
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Speaker 2: for it. We know we can make something amazing. We
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Speaker 2: don't want it to be a subpar product.
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Speaker 3: So directed video was like, not that much budget, Yeah,
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Speaker 3: just send it to this shop it all together.
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Speaker 2: It'll be an hour long.
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Speaker 4: But if it goes to the cinemas, cinematic budget, yes, marketing, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 2: And now it's one of the most iconic films ever.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 2: They get to being about ninety percent done with the film,
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Speaker 2: and one day someone goes into the computers, into the
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Speaker 2: hard drives for Toy Story two, and for some reason,
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Speaker 2: there was this function in the computer where you could
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Speaker 2: completely delete everything that was in this folder. They have
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Speaker 2: ninety percent of the film, and someone goes in there
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Speaker 2: and goes on the computer and it got entirely deleted.
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Speaker 3: So like all of Toy Story two was deleted.
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Speaker 2: It was due to release in cinemas three months later
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Speaker 2: and they have just deleted the entire thing. So obviously
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Speaker 2: the team is scrambling. They're running around, like what are
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Speaker 2: we going to do? The whole film's been deleted. They
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Speaker 2: remember it's okay because we've got our backups that automatically run.
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Speaker 2: They check the backups, backups not working. They have nothing
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Speaker 2: at this point. And in order to get that film
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Speaker 2: back on track and to get it, you know, finished
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Speaker 2: again starting from scraps, that would have taken a whole year,
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Speaker 2: and this team is already ripping their hair out because
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Speaker 2: it's been such a crazy project and they have so
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Speaker 2: much to prove to the big execs and to Disney
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Speaker 2: saying we're going to deliver a top tier product. And
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Speaker 2: then a hero, a hero emerges. One of the producers
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Speaker 2: on the film had a baby about six months or
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Speaker 2: so beforehand, so she set up a system because she
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Speaker 2: needed more flexibility to work from home and be around
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Speaker 2: her baby, where she would have automatic backups get sent
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Speaker 2: to her computer at home once a week. So she's
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Speaker 2: in the meeting, this diva remembers she's like, wait, I've
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Speaker 2: got the backup. So when they retell the story, they
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Speaker 2: drive to her house, and they say they wrapped up
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Speaker 2: this computer like it was a baby. They put it
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Speaker 2: in a blanket. They gently carry it out to the
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Speaker 2: car in the seat, take it in, take it in.
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Speaker 2: So then instead of losing ninety percent of the film,
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Speaker 2: they just had to go back about three or four
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Speaker 2: days and they could pick up the film where they
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Speaker 2: left off. So she literally saved Toy Story two.
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Speaker 1: A woman.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Wow.
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Speaker 1: And what is amazing as well is that I feel
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Speaker 1: like Toy Story two is pretty well renowned for being
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Speaker 1: one of, if not like the best of all time.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: That and Shrek two definitely at there.
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Speaker 3: I'm quite enjoyd Frozen two.
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Speaker 1: Oh, I love Frozen two. I think Frozen two is.
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Speaker 3: Really Frozen too, better than Frozen one.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. The sound of Frozen two is elite.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's so, isn't that?
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Speaker 1: Why?
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Speaker 3: Why?
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Speaker 2: And the moral of the story is always back up
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Speaker 2: your files. Yeah, I think where it's a lot easier
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Speaker 2: now because things are automatically backed up. But remember you know,
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Speaker 2: in school, if you'd have an assignment or something and
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Speaker 2: if you didn't save that word, you were cooked. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, seriously, I wonder what processes they have in place now.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And the reason I know about this story is because
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Speaker 2: I read a book by one of the founders of
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Speaker 2: Pixar where it just has all these different stories about
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Speaker 2: each film, and I listened to that and I was like,
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Speaker 2: that is absolutely wild that this one woman, who you know,
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Speaker 2: needed to have more flexibility with work, was able to
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Speaker 2: save Toy Story two entirely. Yeah, love love love.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Let women do whatever women always, Yeah, totally.
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Speaker 2: And did you know? So, now back to Toy Story five.
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Speaker 2: We've had five amazing films in the franchise, and do you.
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Speaker 1: Like Toy Story four?
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Speaker 2: Maybe that's so amazing sca dolls freak me out.
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Speaker 3: I haven't watched they're flopping around that I want to.
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Speaker 2: I mean, a thrift story is kind of antique stories
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Speaker 2: at the center of it. That's very much a vibe,
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Speaker 2: but it's definitely not as solid. And then I mean,
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Speaker 2: Toy Story three is actually a horror film.
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Speaker 3: Oh my god, what So I just didn't like that
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Speaker 3: they left Indy. Yeah, but he's a grown up.
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Speaker 1: I don't care.
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Speaker 2: Still, you've still got your toes. And then I saw
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Speaker 2: an interview the other day where Tom Hanks made a
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Speaker 2: joke saying that after thirty years of doing these films, picks,
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Speaker 2: I haven't figured out a way for them to all
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Speaker 2: be in the studio at the same time. So they
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Speaker 2: all go to work to record their lines, but they're
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Speaker 2: not together. I hate, Isn't that sad? Yea? So I
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Speaker 2: didn't have to say, like there was a snake in
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Speaker 2: my boot fifty different times and all these different intonations
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Speaker 2: and you can't even bounce off the people that you're around.
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Speaker 1: Is that the same process for every animated film?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, say so, because I guess you need. You can't
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Speaker 2: have any pickups of anybody else's sound in the background.
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Speaker 2: And maybe when they do they'll shoot some videos, because
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Speaker 2: I've seen some stuff for Frozen where they were all in.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I was saying. Yeah, that's interesting, lonely.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And so we haven't seen Toy Story five yet, so
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Speaker 1: as we were saying, no spoilers, but I have seen
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Speaker 1: that Toy Story five does mainly center around Jesse.
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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, which is.
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Speaker 1: Kind of a throwback to Toy Story two. Yea, because
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Speaker 1: introduced to the French.
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Speaker 2: And there definitely are a lot of throwbacks no spoilers
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Speaker 2: throughout the film, so that it really is the emotional
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Speaker 2: anchor that.
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Speaker 3: Carries somebody like in the movie I'm going to Evaporatel,
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna like, what's that guy in Avengers? The click way,
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Speaker 3: the fact that you know that I have never been
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Speaker 3: prouder in my life. I don't think you've seen a
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Speaker 3: single Avengers moving your entire life, so let's not down. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: It was playing as I was walking into the cinema
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Speaker 2: last time, and so funny even with the introduction of
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Speaker 2: the new characters. I think when it's a franchise that
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Speaker 2: we've known and loved for so many years as well,
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Speaker 2: it's like, please don't stuff this up if you're going
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Speaker 2: to bring anyone new, but it will see the children
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Speaker 2: really good for a year. But it was actually funny
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Speaker 2: being in the cinema because the little kids laughed so
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Speaker 2: loud and everything. So it adds to the.
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Speaker 3: Experience of being nice seeing them, like, you know, experience something,
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Speaker 3: but the child like whimsy.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, of that quote.
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Speaker 3: From Narnia and it's like, don't sake the dark art
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Speaker 3: to me, which I was there and it was like,
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Speaker 3: if you're feeling this for me, you will see and
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Speaker 3: you will laugh at the right points to laugh, and
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Speaker 3: you will not talk.
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Speaker 1: I love it though, because Toy Story has been a
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Speaker 1: franchise for over thirty years, which is amazing, Like when
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Speaker 1: we were watching it when we were little kids, and
18:51
Speaker 1: then watching it now, and so many people who would
18:53
Speaker 1: be watching it now who enjoyed it growing up would
18:56
Speaker 1: have children of their hearts because Toy Story five, Like,
18:59
Speaker 1: I've just seeing this from the trailer, but it's about
19:03
Speaker 1: like it kind of juxtaposes physical toys and like digital
19:08
Speaker 1: devices and screens and how kids now are playing with
19:12
Speaker 1: iPads or with tablets rather than playing with physical toys, right,
19:16
Speaker 1: So it's almost like it's a movie for the parents
19:19
Speaker 1: and for the kids.
19:20
Speaker 2: It really it calls us out and it's all about
19:23
Speaker 2: toys versus tech, and that's what I mean. I was
19:25
Speaker 2: sitting on the bus this morning. Everyone was on their
19:27
Speaker 2: phone and I had my book and I was like,
19:28
Speaker 2: I'm better than ever if you haven't seen Toys Very five,
19:31
Speaker 2: and it shows. But yeah, I think a really good
19:34
Speaker 2: film that you know, pulls on your heart strings like that,
19:37
Speaker 2: it makes you reflect on your behaviors and how you
19:39
Speaker 2: want to show up in the world. And it is
19:41
Speaker 2: it's for the parents, but it is there also are
19:43
Speaker 2: some really important lessons in there for the kids as well.
19:46
Speaker 2: I can imagine I'll go take my seven year old
19:48
Speaker 2: niece to see. It's like, why are you crying? Start alone?
19:50
Speaker 3: Yeah, you'll get it right. Can we also talk quickly
19:54
Speaker 3: before we wrap up this segment about Taylor Swift as
19:58
Speaker 3: like a swifty l Yes.
20:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, what did you having?
20:02
Speaker 3: You know Taylor do the song for Toy Story five
20:05
Speaker 3: and be involved in Toy Story five.
20:07
Speaker 2: I have just loved the crossover in every way and
20:10
Speaker 2: everything about this film, in the leader, the press tour
20:13
Speaker 2: that they've been doing, Taylor Swift doing your song. It
20:15
Speaker 2: really is that perfect Ben Diagram of all of my
20:18
Speaker 2: interests in one like, oh my gosh. And the song
20:21
Speaker 2: is really happy, really nostalgic as well. It's like, how
20:24
Speaker 2: can you be nostalgic about a song that you've only
20:26
Speaker 2: just listened to? But it really just hits the spot
20:28
Speaker 2: and I think bring back the art of a perfect
20:31
Speaker 2: credit song. You know when the credits hit and you
20:33
Speaker 2: sit there and you're like, what did I just experience?
20:36
Speaker 2: That was amazing?
20:37
Speaker 3: The celebrity cover of like the main song comes in
20:39
Speaker 3: and you're like, I'm letting did you see all the
20:42
Speaker 3: Easter eggs.
20:44
Speaker 2: So I just raised by Taylor Swift.
20:46
Speaker 1: Yes, that was like.
20:49
Speaker 3: My thing that I was like, bloody, Yeah, she's good.
20:51
Speaker 3: So Taylor Swift admitted that the clouds in the song
20:57
Speaker 3: was the fate of Ophelia.
20:58
Speaker 2: No I feel, yeah, the fate of Afelia.
21:01
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that in the Fate of Aphelia music video
21:06
Speaker 3: that was the clouds in the background of the music
21:08
Speaker 3: video is a Toy Story Easter eg.
21:10
Speaker 2: I didn't even know that. Yeah, I did not know that. Yeah.
21:13
Speaker 3: The cover of nineteen eighty nine, yeah, has been changed
21:16
Speaker 3: to clouds as well.
21:17
Speaker 2: They changed it from seagulls to clouds. I did see that,
21:19
Speaker 2: and everyone was absolutely losing their minds. And that's the
21:22
Speaker 2: thing about being as Swifty is that every couple of
21:25
Speaker 2: weeks you're completely clowning over something, but twenty five percent
21:28
Speaker 2: of the time it ends up being real.
21:30
Speaker 3: But that's what I was saying as well. And then
21:31
Speaker 3: she also capitalized T and S in the lyrics of
21:35
Speaker 3: her songs I think on Spotify, So I'm just like,
21:39
Speaker 3: I love Also, she was wearing an outfit that was
21:42
Speaker 3: she was recently wearing a story color that was Toy
21:45
Speaker 3: Story colors that I love how into.
21:48
Speaker 2: It she gets.
21:48
Speaker 3: Yeah, her attention to tel it's like fun that she's like,
21:52
Speaker 3: could be.
21:53
Speaker 2: It's so much fun until you're staying up until four
21:55
Speaker 2: o'clock in the morning for a countdown. You're like, what's
21:57
Speaker 2: gonna happen? Everyone?
21:59
Speaker 3: Swift, He's like, there that meme of the guy with
22:01
Speaker 3: the board and the red street. But I like about
22:03
Speaker 3: their balance.
22:06
Speaker 2: And it's so satisfying that it actually is something. And
22:09
Speaker 2: then it'll be that one person who's developed this really
22:11
Speaker 2: deep theory and you're like, oh, thank you so much
22:13
Speaker 2: for doing the hard work. Yeah. I usually just wake
22:15
Speaker 2: up in the morning, I'm like, Okay, what are we
22:17
Speaker 2: clowning about today? Perfect? Yep, aligned I.
22:20
Speaker 1: Love it, Alur, she's raising a group of private investigators.
22:24
Speaker 1: The attention to detail, I love it. Okay, Sal, what's
22:47
Speaker 1: the tea?
22:48
Speaker 2: Can I say it?
22:49
Speaker 3: Yeah?
22:50
Speaker 2: Sal? What's the tea?
22:53
Speaker 1: Now that you now that, okay, what's the tea? A
22:58
Speaker 1: Handbagg's over mm, I know. So have you guys seen
23:03
Speaker 1: this article floating around in some of the commentary. Yes?
23:06
Speaker 2: I did, and I have many thoughts, but please okay,
23:08
Speaker 2: but give the law first.
23:09
Speaker 1: Yeah, So for the chickies who haven't seen it. So
23:11
Speaker 1: The New York Times recently published an opinion piece posing
23:15
Speaker 1: the question is the handbag over? And it was actually
23:19
Speaker 1: like a reader rode in, So it was that kind
23:22
Speaker 1: of like opinion piece, which I thought was interesting. So
23:25
Speaker 1: the reader rode in and asked, are women's handbags becoming obsolete?
23:30
Speaker 1: I noticed they are not as popular as they used
23:32
Speaker 1: to be. Some very powerful professional women do not use them,
23:36
Speaker 1: preferring clothing with pockets and or briefcases. Is the age
23:39
Speaker 1: of the handbag over? And that was from Nancy in Denmark,
23:44
Speaker 1: and I wanted to before we dive into it. I
23:46
Speaker 1: wanted to see what your first impressions are. What do
23:48
Speaker 1: you both think about? Do you think that the handbag
23:50
Speaker 1: is over?
23:51
Speaker 3: You can pry my handbag out of my cold dead hands.
23:58
Speaker 3: I have any tire life in there.
24:02
Speaker 2: Right, my snacks, my lip bums, my water bottles and
24:05
Speaker 2: apple that's probably about to cure some sort of disease
24:09
Speaker 2: that we haven't discovered yet. It's important in the exactly,
24:14
Speaker 2: but also on the pockets. We all get so excited
24:17
Speaker 2: when we find a piece of clothing that has real pockets.
24:20
Speaker 2: If that is like something to be celebrating No, when
24:22
Speaker 2: you put a dress on, you like it has pockets,
24:25
Speaker 2: and that's how you'll justify it to the girls. If
24:27
Speaker 2: you're going to spend you know, a little bit more
24:28
Speaker 2: on something it has pockets.
24:30
Speaker 3: But also women's pockets are never as good as men.
24:33
Speaker 2: Tiny little fucking fake pockets or whatever.
24:36
Speaker 3: And I'm like, sorry, I'm getting it's not that deeplex
24:38
Speaker 3: It is. No, it's not that deep because the pockets.
24:44
Speaker 2: Especially blazers, they always have fake pockets. Like, why have
24:47
Speaker 2: you stitched this in there?
24:48
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've ripped thinking that they would just stitched clothes and.
24:53
Speaker 1: Then it just goes inside the lining of your jacket.
24:59
Speaker 3: What's European.
25:00
Speaker 1: I don't think they're over I do think that one
25:03
Speaker 1: of the first Sorry.
25:04
Speaker 3: Can I add a caveat? I will say, if I
25:07
Speaker 3: am popping up to get like one stick at geese
25:11
Speaker 3: or something, yeah, I don't know, Like I just want
25:13
Speaker 3: like a can of coke or something. I'll grab my
25:16
Speaker 3: keys my phone and they both go in my back pocket.
25:18
Speaker 2: But then you like dropping everything on the ground anyway,
25:20
Speaker 2: It's true.
25:21
Speaker 3: Whenever I don't take a handbag, I do regret it.
25:24
Speaker 2: That's a great point.
25:25
Speaker 1: It's very true. But Also, we've all seen the memes
25:28
Speaker 1: of like the claw and the power of a woman
25:31
Speaker 1: girl's grip.
25:32
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, girl thing.
25:35
Speaker 1: Honestly, I think that's like an evolution of women.
25:38
Speaker 3: They should teach it to like tradesmen.
25:41
Speaker 1: They would have little.
25:43
Speaker 3: Count bell no, no girl grip Yeah, I got to
25:46
Speaker 3: get the right direction, all of the fingers. The class I.
25:51
Speaker 1: Love totally, but I also do think and this was
25:55
Speaker 1: one of the first points raised in the article. The
25:58
Speaker 1: author does start off by saying that if one thing
26:01
Speaker 1: is certain about fashion, everything that is out will come
26:04
Speaker 1: in again. So she's saying that if there's this commentary
26:08
Speaker 1: that handbags are out, it's not going to be forever. However,
26:12
Speaker 1: she does also point out that the relationship with particular
26:15
Speaker 1: items in fashion does evolve, and it appears that we
26:19
Speaker 1: may be at a turning point with handbags and how
26:22
Speaker 1: we use handbags and how we value handbags, which I
26:25
Speaker 1: thought was interesting because if you think about it, even
26:28
Speaker 1: you know back in the day when people would be
26:30
Speaker 1: wearing like petticoats or you know, like just different items
26:34
Speaker 1: that used to be in fashion that people would wear
26:36
Speaker 1: all like parasols or stuff like that that were very
26:39
Speaker 1: functional pieces of fashion and clothing, and it's like they
26:42
Speaker 1: still exist, but maybe they're just not as prevalent as
26:45
Speaker 1: they once were. So I will be interested to see
26:49
Speaker 1: how this evolves in the coming decades. But in the
26:53
Speaker 1: article she does pull on some stats and research to
26:56
Speaker 1: back it and why she does think that we are
26:59
Speaker 1: at a turning point where perhaps the handbag is over.
27:02
Speaker 1: So I know, I know, so I also love that.
27:06
Speaker 2: I might be like, no, I will.
27:11
Speaker 3: You can still your hand bag illegal?
27:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, all over again.
27:18
Speaker 3: It was illegal to dance.
27:19
Speaker 2: Now it's illegal to have a handbag.
27:21
Speaker 3: Every time I think about that movie, I smile.
27:22
Speaker 1: I'm like, what do you meant?
27:23
Speaker 3: It was a movie about the fact that it was
27:25
Speaker 3: illegal to dance.
27:27
Speaker 2: The one reason I just thought of trolls when he's like,
27:29
Speaker 2: singing killed my Grandma?
27:33
Speaker 1: You even so cam that I've seen that made.
27:39
Speaker 2: Moving over.
27:39
Speaker 3: Watching see like True Colors and it's like Anna Kendrick
27:42
Speaker 3: and Justin dimmer.
27:43
Speaker 1: Lake and it's like singing killed my Grandma.
27:46
Speaker 2: It's like.
27:48
Speaker 1: Perfect, Yeah, next girls night, we can watch that.
27:50
Speaker 3: Yeah, we can get really drunk.
27:52
Speaker 2: Yeah and we'll we'll just be singing the whole time.
27:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what we do. That's how we thrive. Okay,
27:58
Speaker 1: so the stats, So, according to a spokesperson from the
28:02
Speaker 1: fashion search engine List, demand for women's handbag was down
28:06
Speaker 1: five point five percent in April twenty six compared to
28:09
Speaker 1: April twenty twenty five, And interestingly, searches for briefcases are
28:14
Speaker 1: up fourteen percent and closed with pockets increased by five
28:17
Speaker 1: hundred and forty two percent between last January and April.
28:23
Speaker 1: So maybe I think that the data is backing the
28:26
Speaker 1: rise of the humble pocket. Yeah, people are searching for
28:29
Speaker 1: alternatives to the handbag, and the author thinks that this
28:33
Speaker 1: question can be explained by a few different factors, one
28:37
Speaker 1: of the things being that the it handbag that millennials
28:41
Speaker 1: previously heralded as like the fashion item that people.
28:45
Speaker 3: Would say for everyday bag, yeah.
28:47
Speaker 1: And like the status handbag that celebrities would carry is
28:50
Speaker 1: no more because algorithms mean that our taste is While
28:54
Speaker 1: I do think that obviously algorithms impact individual taste, it
28:58
Speaker 1: does also mean that certain items are marketed to niche groups.
29:02
Speaker 3: Yeah. The other thing that I would wonder is, like,
29:06
Speaker 3: you know this person who wrote into was It the
29:08
Speaker 3: New York Times right that they're like you know, I've
29:11
Speaker 3: been noticing that, like, powerful people, celebrities aren't carrying handbags.
29:16
Speaker 3: Would that not be just because someone's holding their.
29:19
Speaker 2: Ship for them?
29:20
Speaker 3: Yeah, well there, like they have assistance.
29:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. And that was another point that she brought up,
29:27
Speaker 1: is that practically smartphones carry a lot of the things
29:32
Speaker 1: that we typically would have been having in our handbags
29:34
Speaker 1: prior to that wallet.
29:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, do you guys even have a Walern't I
29:39
Speaker 2: need a physical card?
29:40
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know what where'd that be?
29:42
Speaker 3: Yeah?
29:42
Speaker 1: Literally, and you're not carrying, like, not everybody will be
29:45
Speaker 1: carrying a physical planner or notebook or all of those
29:48
Speaker 1: things that we now can just have on our phone.
29:51
Speaker 1: So there is that, But yeah, she does kind of
29:54
Speaker 1: pose that question, that is it that generally the more powerful,
29:59
Speaker 1: the per the less that they need to carry a
30:03
Speaker 1: bag because yeah, they have people around. Yeah, they have
30:07
Speaker 1: people around to deal with their stuff. And she points
30:09
Speaker 1: out that Anna Wintour, arguably the most powerful person in fashion,
30:13
Speaker 1: is renowned for only ever carrying her phone. So yeah,
30:18
Speaker 1: do you guys agree. Do you think that the old
30:21
Speaker 1: adage of dress for the job that you want applies here?
30:25
Speaker 1: Do you think, Yeah, I'm like, I get eat a tampon,
30:29
Speaker 1: you know.
30:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, someone gonna make clothing that has a pocket big
30:33
Speaker 2: enough for my laptop so I can take it to work.
30:35
Speaker 2: You know, Like what about all that shit? I mean,
30:36
Speaker 2: it would be great if someone would carry my stuff
30:39
Speaker 2: for me all the time. I'm just I can't something
30:41
Speaker 2: about Anna Winter having like a maldi banana falling out
30:44
Speaker 2: of her I heard that about her.
30:50
Speaker 3: I'm kidding.
30:50
Speaker 1: She has a moldy banana on the bottom of her birket.
30:53
Speaker 3: She can put it with my moldy apple.
30:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, I'm like, Okay, so I do see that.
30:59
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that that doesn't happen with a
31:02
Speaker 1: lot of powerful, successful people that maybe they don't need
31:05
Speaker 1: to carry a handbag. But I'm like, for the average person,
31:09
Speaker 1: that's probably not.
31:10
Speaker 3: It's relatable, like, you know where for the average Joe
31:16
Speaker 3: or Joanna, you will like we're going into work, we're.
31:19
Speaker 1: Getting public transport, You're carrying your laptop.
31:22
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. My one thought when you were saying before
31:25
Speaker 3: is that the sales of handbags have gone down, is
31:28
Speaker 3: potentially wondering about how that relates to the lipstick index
31:33
Speaker 3: and how have you heard of the lipstick index before.
31:36
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so people buy more beauty products when there's
31:39
Speaker 2: like financial.
31:41
Speaker 3: Or just like the amount as well that people spend
31:45
Speaker 3: on higher price items drops, but the amount that people
31:50
Speaker 3: spend on smaller pieces like beauty items like lipstick rises
31:55
Speaker 3: because it's more affordable and they can shop that rather
31:58
Speaker 3: than shopping for more expensive things like a handbag.
32:02
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
32:03
Speaker 3: So I wonder if the fall of the handbag is
32:07
Speaker 3: actually more due to the cost of living crisis and
32:11
Speaker 3: the fact that we don't have, you know, money to
32:13
Speaker 3: be spending here and there, especially on designer handbags. Yeah,
32:18
Speaker 3: but like most handbags these days, you know, they're costing
32:21
Speaker 3: a pretty penny, especially you know, a large tot a
32:25
Speaker 3: leather one. Yeah, that's going to set you back around
32:27
Speaker 3: three hundred bucks.
32:28
Speaker 2: Yeah.
32:28
Speaker 3: So I wonder, and I don't know the answer to this,
32:32
Speaker 3: but if that also has something to do with.
32:35
Speaker 1: That, Yeah, I definitely think that's there's a correlation there.
32:38
Speaker 1: And she does kind of touch on that briefly in
32:41
Speaker 1: the article too, and she also touches on the rise
32:44
Speaker 1: in popularity of secondhand luxury handbags as well, and that
32:48
Speaker 1: the shift is actually going there because in some spaces.
32:52
Speaker 1: There's actually more of a status and call factor to
32:56
Speaker 1: reviving a previously trending handbag than buying it brand I
33:00
Speaker 1: knew love that, which I'm like, if okay, if budget
33:03
Speaker 1: was no option and you had the choice the exact
33:06
Speaker 1: same handbag and you could get it brand new or vintage,
33:10
Speaker 1: which one would you pick?
33:11
Speaker 2: I'd go vintage so I can be a Wayne coat
33:13
Speaker 2: when people ask me like was it from, Like, it's
33:15
Speaker 2: vintage yoh. And Also, I think that a handbag is
33:18
Speaker 2: something that you absolutely run into the ground. Like no
33:21
Speaker 2: one is searching every month to buy a new handbag.
33:24
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people that's a big part
33:26
Speaker 2: of their identity to have their one big go to,
33:29
Speaker 2: say tote or work bag exactly.
33:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel the same. I'd definitely be going secondhand.
33:33
Speaker 1: I agree.
33:34
Speaker 3: I've bought a brand Everyone knows this said this is
33:36
Speaker 3: that many times podcasts. I bought a brand new designer
33:39
Speaker 3: one like ten years ago now, and I was like,
33:41
Speaker 3: worst decision ever, And I bought a second hand one,
33:43
Speaker 3: and I'm like, best decision ever. R Yeah, because I
33:46
Speaker 3: like the fact, like what you're saying, like that I
33:48
Speaker 3: can kind of run it into the ground. It's the
33:50
Speaker 3: it's the uniform. It's like the carry Bradshaw coat, Like, yeah,
33:54
Speaker 3: it is, she is the moment. Yeah, except I will
33:57
Speaker 3: say I did buy a vintage one once and it
33:59
Speaker 3: will was haunted.
34:00
Speaker 2: So lived a life haunted.
34:04
Speaker 1: Yeah.
34:05
Speaker 2: Okay, one time I bought this vintage leather jacket and
34:07
Speaker 2: in the pocket that was right near my breast, I
34:10
Speaker 2: pulled something out of there. There was a polaroid photo
34:14
Speaker 2: of this guy wearing the jacket with who I thought
34:18
Speaker 2: was Prince at the time, and I was losing my shit.
34:21
Speaker 2: I was like, how could this person leave this polaroid
34:24
Speaker 2: photo with Prince in the jackets? And I'm sending it
34:27
Speaker 2: to my sisters. My sister looked up Prince's chest hair
34:31
Speaker 2: pattern to compare it. Oh myo. The guy had like
34:34
Speaker 2: a swirly pattern of chest hair and I'm pretty sure
34:38
Speaker 2: it was like an impersonator or something like those people.
34:42
Speaker 2: But that was the most exhilarating thirty minutes of my life.
34:45
Speaker 2: But I'm like, oh, I have a photo of Prince
34:47
Speaker 2: in my jacket polar I need to find it in
34:52
Speaker 2: my camera. I would have taken a photo of her,
34:55
Speaker 2: do it as like a little maybe we'll block out
34:56
Speaker 2: the other guy's face because I feel bad. Ye, like, yeah, haunted,
35:01
Speaker 2: the things have lived a life, but yeah.
35:03
Speaker 1: Fuck fingerprints, let's look at swells the chest head forensic
35:07
Speaker 1: analytics going for oh my god. Yeah, well so that's
35:11
Speaker 1: the thing. Like reading this article, I was like, I
35:13
Speaker 1: see the merit in some of the things that you're saying,
35:16
Speaker 1: but I think for the average person, the handbag isn't over.
35:19
Speaker 1: And we did also see that one of our favorite
35:22
Speaker 1: Instagram account startup at make it Fashion, did also cover
35:25
Speaker 1: this topic too, and she was like, the handbag is
35:28
Speaker 1: not over.
35:29
Speaker 3: It's not over, it was never over.
35:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's literally her fighting for handbags until the end
35:34
Speaker 1: of time. But she did mention that, you know, some
35:37
Speaker 1: people and that there is like a growing sort of
35:40
Speaker 1: perception of handbags as pieces of art and also things
35:43
Speaker 1: that are to be invested in. She mentioned that the
35:46
Speaker 1: original Burken sold at auction for over ten million dollars yeah,
35:51
Speaker 1: and that even buying a Burken bag can sometimes outperform
35:56
Speaker 1: as an investment piece compared to the stock market. WHOA yes,
36:00
Speaker 1: So she's like, so there are people who carry value
36:02
Speaker 1: in this either as like investment pieces or as pieces
36:06
Speaker 1: of art.
36:07
Speaker 2: And then she did.
36:08
Speaker 1: Also mention that there are some brands like Valentino that
36:11
Speaker 1: are releasing bags that are a little bit more affordable,
36:15
Speaker 1: and by that I mean around twenty five hundred dollars
36:18
Speaker 1: USD but in comparison to other brands, So they are
36:21
Speaker 1: trying to make these luxury items that are of a
36:24
Speaker 1: lower price point, that are in quotations more accessible.
36:28
Speaker 3: Chanell's just dropped their prices, I think as well.
36:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, as a post.
36:32
Speaker 3: Online about Chanelle reducing their prices.
36:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, very interesting. And then like there's brands like Louis
36:38
Speaker 1: Vuitton and Balenciaga that are going heavy in the marketing
36:41
Speaker 1: around handbag launchers. So I don't think that the handbag
36:46
Speaker 1: is over, but I do think that how much we
36:49
Speaker 1: need to put in our handbags is definitely changing. And
36:53
Speaker 1: that's true, and that women deserve fucking pockets.
36:57
Speaker 2: Yeah that work. Remember in the twenty ten when the
37:00
Speaker 2: it handbag was the Mimco Club, I was thinking around
37:04
Speaker 2: there and I just guy that we progressed from a
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Speaker 2: clutch to a bag because holding a clutch was so annoying.
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Speaker 2: You'd have one little strap around your wrist and you'd
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Speaker 2: be flopping cross. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Put it under your arm. You've taken a photo and
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Speaker 3: you're like.
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Speaker 2: One with the big buttons in the club photos on Facebook.
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Speaker 4: For the next day, face voice, pleated top with white
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Speaker 4: wet leather and fake boobs.
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, drinking out of the tea park. It was
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Speaker 1: a simpler time. You've got a shot and a test
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Speaker 1: you Yeah, drinking out of the well bu Seriously, you
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Speaker 1: would have loved the handbag. Oh my god. Well that's
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Speaker 1: a wrap for another fun episode of What's the Team?
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Speaker 1: But Star For the chicks who aren't already following you,
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Speaker 1: where can they find you?
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Speaker 2: Oh? Yes, this is so much fun. So you can
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Speaker 2: find me on Instagram at star with a double r
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Speaker 2: mcg and then on TikTok just star. I don't know
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Speaker 2: how I got that. Yeah, I want it on Instagram.
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Speaker 2: Who do I have to pay? Yes, I'll give you
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Speaker 2: a handbag.
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Speaker 3: I don't want it.
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Speaker 1: And thanks to your chicks for having us in the
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Speaker 1: ear holes. We love to be here. Bye chicks.