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- 0:11Good afternoon. It's Friday, the seventh of June twenty twenty four, just
- 0:14after one o'clock. Welcome to UK Collum News. I'm your host, Mike
- 0:16Robinson. Joining me today we get Ben Rubin and Debbie Evans. Welcome to
- 0:21the program. Both. We're going to get started off with something that most
- 0:24people probably will not find surprising, and that is the litst press release from
- 0:29the World Health Organization on ivian flu. So this is following the death of
- 0:35a man in Mexico, apparently with ivian flu A, which is H five
- 0:39and two, and this is the first time that anyone has been infected with
- 0:43this particular so called variant. So let's have a look at what they're saying
- 0:46here. On May. On the twenty third of May twenty twenty four,
- 0:49the Mexico International Health Regulations National Focal Point reported to the WHO a confirmed fatal
- 0:56case of human infection with ivian influencer A brackets five to virus detected in a
- 1:00resident of the State of Mexico who was hospitalized in Mexico City. This is
- 1:06the first laboratory confirmed human case of infection with an influenza A virus that's H
- 1:11five N two reported globally, and the first IVY and H five virus infection
- 1:15and a person reported in Mexico, So they sorry, that's so. On
- 1:21May the twenty third, the Mexico IHR NFP reported a confirmed case. They
- 1:26went on to say that the person who was hospitalized in Mexico had no history
- 1:32of exposure to poultry or other animals. The case had multiple underlying medical conditions,
- 1:37So here we go. He didn't what did he actually die of?
- 1:41Because he had multiple underlying medical conditions. The case had already been bed ridden
- 1:45for three weeks for other reasons prior to the onset of acute symptoms, So
- 1:49where did this come from and what actually was it? So we put that
- 1:53back on screen. The next one says that results from real time polymer is
- 1:59chin reaction test of a respiratory sample collected and tested I and ER on the
- 2:04twenty fourth of April indicated a non subtype of influenza A virus. On the
- 2:08eighth of May, the sample was sent for sequencing to the Laboratory of Molecular
- 2:13Biology of Emerging Diseases Center for Research in Infectious Diseases, of which indicated that
- 2:20the sample was positive for influenza A. So they did a PCR test and
- 2:23then they sent it for sequencing, but then they did another PCR test.
- 2:28On the twentieth of May, the sample received at the Institute of Epidemiological Diagnosis
- 2:32and Reference of the Mexico National Influenza Center for analysis by rtPCR, obtaining a
- 2:38positive result for influenza A. And then on the twenty second of May,
- 2:43sequencing of the sample confirmed the influence of some subtype was a brackets H five
- 2:47and two. So it had the sample had a PCR test done on it,
- 2:53then it had genetic sequencing done on it, then it had another PCR
- 2:55test on it, and then it had further genetic sequencing done on it.
- 3:00And you've got to ask the question, could they not get the answer the
- 3:02first time round that they were wanting, so they kept testing until perhaps they
- 3:07did so the first question in my mind is what is this all about?
- 3:10Are they really going to attempt to push through the idea of Lockdown's PCR testing
- 3:19vaccination? Could be could be that, but I suspect that the reason is
- 3:23more likely to be this. So we know that one of the millennium development
- 3:28goals and the one of the goals of net zero policy is to reduce red
- 3:34meat meat intake, in fact all meat intake and meat and dairy chickens.
- 3:39These types of things have been under attack this type of farming for quite a
- 3:44long time. We cannot forget the foot and mouth outbreak in the UK where
- 3:49the slaughtered on suspicion policy was brought in based on the modeling of Neil Ferguson
- 3:55at Imperial College. And we have seen kisses, many kisses around the UK
- 4:01in the last few months and a couple of years in fact of poultry flocks
- 4:06being slaughtered on mass again on suspicion because maybe one kiss of bird flu was
- 4:14found in the flocks, so the entire flock had to go. We've got
- 4:17to keep in mind as well that there is a policy here. The EU
- 4:21calls it farm the fork. It's also called farm to fork in the UK
- 4:25as well. This is the eused document farm to Fork for a fair,
- 4:29healthy and environmentally friendly food system And of course this is what this is part
- 4:34of an inim to build a global governance policy and network for f fork strategy
- 4:45will bring in digital security certificates so food as is produced from the farm to
- 4:49the plate will have to be tracked all the way through the process, and
- 4:55the standards and rules are increasingly intended to exclude meat and dairy. So there
- 5:01are quite a number of potential benefits of this entire narrative for the World Health
- 5:06Organization the United Nations in general. But Debbie, I'll just be interested in
- 5:11your thoughts on it, because you know, we have a very clear agenda
- 5:15to remove or reduce significantly the use of meat for food across the world,
- 5:24and they are pushing this policy very hard and this helps. Yeah, good
- 5:30afternoon, And apologized to anybody that thinks that I'm sitting in a cave.
- 5:34I'm afraid my computer at the very last minute decided to change all the settings
- 5:39and so it looks as though I'm in this. But yes, Mike avian
- 5:44flu there's many strands to this, actually, not just fear the PCR tests.
- 5:49I mean they're looking for things, They're desperate to find things. Let's
- 5:53not forget Bill Gates GERM team. But there's much more to follow on this,
- 5:58and I've got more to say. Perhaps we can talk about it on
- 6:00Extra yes, Okay, Well, in the meantime, Debbie, there has
- 6:05been a report in the UK of an outbreak of ecoli right across the country.
- 6:10I think one hundred cases are so so far, and so far they
- 6:13seem to be saying that this is probably linked to some kind of supermarket product.
- 6:18But you've been talking about ecoli and the raising of the profile of echoli
- 6:25with respect to health and humans in the UK for quite some time. Yes,
- 6:30I have, indeed, Mike, and this is what I think is
- 6:33part of a very big agenda. And I'd like people to take note because
- 6:39yesterday was D Day. It was the sixth of June twenty twenty four,
- 6:44and last night I put out a little tweet, but it seemed to gain
- 6:48quite a lot of attention. As much as I hate watching myself, let's
- 6:53look at the tweet that I put out last night. Today is the sixth
- 6:58of June twenty four, D Day. Today the uk HSA have put out
- 7:04an urgent alert with regards to Ecoli contamination. This apparently has been spread through
- 7:13an unnamed food source and has hospitalized many people. On the sixth of June
- 7:18twenty twenty three, I wrote in my blog, which can be found on
- 7:24the UK column website. The Wild Health Organization appears to map each country to
- 7:30the pathogen most likely to cause a problem. Is this a forecast of what
- 7:33is to come? Are we to expect multiple epidemics in different countries, perhaps
- 7:40a simultaneous polycrisis, a health polycrisis. It could be that some parts of
- 7:46Western Europe, including the UK, could be about to see a rise in
- 7:50ecoli and cryptosporidium, which also involves contaminated water and poorly tummies. I don't
- 7:58believe in coincidences. This was written exactly a year ago today, when an
- 8:05Ecoli outbreak has been announced. For many months, I have been warning of
- 8:11something called antimicrobial resistance, where they will say that antibiotics no longer work and
- 8:20that because of a superbug, we're all going to need super antibiotics or mRNA
- 8:26vaccines against antimicrobial resistance. Please keep tune to UK column watch tomorrow at one
- 8:33o'clock where I will be revealing much much more. But please, and what
- 8:43I said right at the end was please remember that you heard it here first
- 8:46at UK column because what I want to just show you and I'm going to
- 8:50use this a little snapshot so ITV news. This was one of the mainstream
- 8:54media stories that covered this yesterday. UK wide eco light outbreak. What do
- 9:00we know so far? Dated the sixth of June, exactly one year to
- 9:03the day that I wrote my blog. So for a change, I'm going
- 9:07to look in at Thames Water. As you know, I have a good
- 9:11relationship with the water companies and I just want you to see that they have
- 9:16their own enhancement case for long term water quality strategy on cryptosporidium and focusing straight
- 9:24in on Thames. Carrying on, you'll see that the Mail was running a
- 9:28story recently urging urging an urgent do not drink water to hundreds of homes in
- 9:35Surrey after a fuel leak, and this was all after the Bricksom incident of
- 9:41cryptosporidium in Devon. They also covered another story in the Mail. I believe
- 9:48it was where they were warning of very similar They were warning, sorry,
- 9:52this is the standard May twenty twenty four. They're carrying out tests for vomiting
- 9:56and sickness. They never said actually what form or are you getting the feeling
- 10:01perhaps that water companies are getting super bad press with all the news that we've
- 10:05heard about sewage etc. Just saying so take note of that for a few
- 10:11minutes now, I just want you to point you to my blog. Now,
- 10:16my blog was dated the sixth of June twenty twenty three. Please go
- 10:20back and have a look at it because I actually did write a very chunky
- 10:24piece about ecoli. This is what I said in the video. So if
- 10:28you want to go and see, I don't have a crystal ball. I
- 10:31just do sixteen hours of research every single day. So if you want to
- 10:35go and see the document that the World Health Organization are mapping crypto spridium and
- 10:41ecoli, then all the links are in my blog. If you go to
- 10:46the next slide, I'm just taking a few little snippets from the blog,
- 10:50but you'll see that I was linking it directly to antimicrobial resistance, and you
- 10:56can see an article there antimicrobial resistance could kill us before time change. And
- 11:01the final little snippet that I've taken from my blog is ecoli. This was
- 11:05my opinion. Ecoli plus antimicrobial resistance and enteroviruses are both being made big,
- 11:13big issues deliberately in my opinion, not just globally, but specifically in the
- 11:18West. The UK appears to be leading the way. So once again we
- 11:26bring you the news first at UK Column and there is that big article in
- 11:31my blog, but keep tuned because there's more to come on this, much
- 11:33more. And if you want to know if there's an ecol vaccine, of
- 11:37course there is. Yes. Okay, thank you, Debbie, And we'll
- 11:41have more on anti microbuilt resistance a little bit later. But ben last week
- 11:46we were talking about the B Team, but there's been a bit of movement
- 11:50on this. There has absolutely been some movement on this. There's been a
- 11:56big development this week as it relates to the B Team and also the issue
- 12:01of female leaders and the big drive globally to put women into positions of power
- 12:07and importantly to keep them in positions of power. It seems to be a
- 12:11bit of a challengers will come on too. So it starts here with the
- 12:16B Team, who I spoke about last week. So this is an international
- 12:20group focused on delivering a global agenda, top level business and political leaders getting
- 12:26together to talk about the future of humanity. And we're going to focus in
- 12:31on the lady you can see in the center there with the microphone. Who
- 12:35is this woman, Hallah Thomas Dotter, And she's the chief executive of the
- 12:41B Team. But this week she's just been voted in as the President of
- 12:46Iceland. So this is a very top level group. You said last week,
- 12:50the B Team is the top level group. You've got Richard Branson there,
- 12:52You've got top level political people there. She has just been made the
- 12:56head of State for Iceland. What do we know about her? So let's
- 13:01have a little look at her profile on the Council for Inclusive Capitalism page.
- 13:07So she's a member of Linda Rothschild's Council for Inclusive Capitalism. This tells her
- 13:11that she started off her career in the corporate world at Mars and Pepsi Coylo
- 13:16before getting into politics. She has been given a lot of coverage, not
- 13:22least by the B Team, who are very excited as you'd expect, saying
- 13:26that Iceland have gained an exceptional leader today who is going to advance the courageous
- 13:31leadership she championed at the B Team, in which the world so urgently needs.
- 13:37She was also given a little nude from the Goals House for people who
- 13:43are championing the sustainable development goals they say here. As CEO of the B
- 13:48Team, she has been a dedicated participant at Goals House since its launch and
- 13:56is a passionate champion for the global Goals, so she's now ahead of that.
- 14:00She's also representing the SDG, she's also representing the Rothschild family and a
- 14:05whole lot of other interests alongside that. Interesting. Now one organization which also
- 14:11jumped in to pass on their congrat congratulations with this one, the RECUVIC Global
- 14:18Forum. We've spoken about quite a few times recently. So this is an
- 14:22international community of female leaders, very heavily represented at Davos and elsewhere, and
- 14:30they say that their explicit goal is a world in which men and women are
- 14:35viewed as equally suitable to lead. Now that goal has been under some threat
- 14:41over the past twelve months, and let's hear about that from this recent event,
- 14:48this recent panel discussion held at the RECUVIC Global Forum at the end of
- 14:54last year. The long haul, how can we sure women retain power?
- 15:03The question, the challenge has long been how can we elevate women into high
- 15:07positions of leadership? Increasingly the challenges not just to get there, to get
- 15:15elected, but to be re elected. We've seen in twenty three numerous cases,
- 15:20just Sinda our Dern, Susana chaputoa san No Maarian Nicola Sturgeon, Sigrid
- 15:28Khag all this year have chosen to step aside from high office, arguably at
- 15:33the peak of their powers, because of the stresses on themselves and their families.
- 15:41These are not isolated cases. Studies show disproportionate pressure on women is systemic.
- 15:48The Interparliamentary Union interviewed eighty one female parliamentarians from forty European countries. Eighty
- 15:54five percent of them experienced psychological violence such as sexist remarks or intimidating behavior,
- 16:04well nearly half of them. Half of them received threats of rape, beatings
- 16:11or death. Now, I want to be sober about what we're dealing with
- 16:17here the house. It's not on fire to borrow from news of the day.
- 16:26The volcano is exploding. Yeah, Ben, The first thing I would
- 16:32say about that is just to take two names. Jacinda Ardarn. Was she
- 16:37forced out of her position because of misogyny or was she forced out of her
- 16:41position because she was behaving like an absolute fascist during the COVID time? And
- 16:47as for Nicholas Sturgeon, was she forced out because of misogyny or was she
- 16:51forced out because of corruption? Well, those are very very good questions and
- 16:59good examples like because the line that we're being fed here is that it was
- 17:03the awful sexist who drove them out of office, but in reality, it
- 17:08was their own behavior, their own policies. And you know, when you
- 17:14dig into this, that's ultimately what this is all about. I think there's
- 17:18there's a whole lot in there to unpack. The first one is the idea
- 17:21that the volcano is exploding. Yeah, this is there's so much drama being
- 17:26loaded into this. And just for the record, I will say that I
- 17:30will certainly never condone threats of violence. I don't think that anyone should be
- 17:33being threatened with rape or beatings or death or anything like that, right,
- 17:38I don't believe that that's correct. Behavior shouldn't be going on. But then
- 17:42the idea that there is this thing called psychological violence is crazy to me.
- 17:51And the idea that sexist remarks in heaven forbid, that we might be subjected
- 17:56to some sexist remarks on the internet politicians, I mean, it's really laughable
- 18:02for stuff that's being complained about here, right, And this idea that the
- 18:07pressure on women is disproportionate, Frankly, I don't believe it. It might
- 18:11be that women are disproportionately incapable of dealing with that pressure ultimately, which seems
- 18:17to be the issue here. So who was that doing the speaking? That
- 18:21was Rick Zednik. This fellow here, he's actually running for the European Parliament.
- 18:26I'm just going to use the word obsequious to describe that little introduction that
- 18:32he gave here. And he did have three former heads of state on stage
- 18:36with him, So Taja Hallanan so the former President of Finland, and she
- 18:42talks about the emergence of twenty four hour social media and how that made it
- 18:48really difficult for Sanam Marin to be in office. She was the Prime Minister
- 18:52of Finland who left there last year and is now prostituting herself to the Tony
- 18:56Blair Institute for Global Change. That's what Santa Marin is up to now and
- 19:02now that she stepped out of political office. We also had on stage Dahlia
- 19:07ribber Skater, former President of Lithuania. I really liked this woman. Actually,
- 19:11she had a great energy about her. She described herself as the Iron
- 19:15and Magnolia. He's like something out of a Bond film from the eighties.
- 19:19She's a black belt in martial arts and very sensibly. She said, it's
- 19:22not about gender, it's about your personality. Yeah, and people like people
- 19:26who are willing to step up and take responsibility for the well being of their
- 19:30country completely agree with you. And then the third head of state or former
- 19:34head of state was this lady Simonetta Sommaruga. I'm saying that correctly. She's
- 19:40former president of Switzerland, and she talked a lot about this word hate and
- 19:45the need for protections online and the way that leaders are isolated by the mob,
- 19:52and that you have a wave of hate coming at you whenever you say
- 19:56anything, and that ninety five percent of the hate comes from just five percent
- 20:00the accounts online. They really want to legislate against freedom of speech and people
- 20:06having their own opinions. You know, this is really totalitarian stuff when you
- 20:11dig into it, but it's presented as being kind and empathetic. Now,
- 20:15there's a little clip here that I'm going to share from Simileet to Samaruga,
- 20:19which I think gives an interesting insight into what's going on behind the scenes.
- 20:26I wanted to have to attack the problem of women trafficking, so the reaction
- 20:30was, but there's no women trafficking in our country. In Switzerland. No,
- 20:34no, no, in all the other countries, but not in our
- 20:37country. And I said, no, if we look at where there is
- 20:41women traffic, if you want to see it, then we will find these
- 20:45women and we have to work on that. And I worked together with the
- 20:48police, with the women protection organizations. I went to other countries, to
- 20:52Serbia, to Romania together with the police over there, with the angels over
- 20:56there. And I think this is a thing I would say for all the
- 21:00women, because I was talking about the thin air. We have to work
- 21:06together. We have to around us with those people who want to work together
- 21:10with us, and not have included everybody, but those who really want to
- 21:15achieve in our direction. We have to take them with us. And I
- 21:18think this is female leadership and with that we can achieve quite a lot.
- 21:26The two important points from that, The first one is that she's concerned with
- 21:30human trafficking. I think it's absolutely something she should be concerned about and that
- 21:33all politicians and the whole of society frankly should be looking into. And a
- 21:38lot of what a lot of what gets discussed at these events, and you
- 21:42should go and look at. The longer talk is the women are somehow solely
- 21:49interested. It's only them who are interested in human rights, it's only them
- 21:52that are interested in things like human trafficking, It's only them that are interested
- 21:56in the future of humanity. Ultimately, I think that that's a ridiculous statement,
- 22:02a ridiculous position to be taken. And then the second thing was what
- 22:06she said towards the end there, which is that women need to work together
- 22:11and find people who are amenable to their way of doing things, even if
- 22:15that ends up dividing the nation that you're leading, right as you very clearly
- 22:19said, we can't take everyone on this journey with us. You know,
- 22:22the job of the leader is to unite the nation to carry it forward.
- 22:26And what she's saying is that, actually, women aren't going to do that,
- 22:29they can't do that, and actually we need to take a different approach.
- 22:32And I think that's incredibly destructive, even in spite of, you know,
- 22:37the best intentions of trying to fight back against corruption and human traffiing and
- 22:41that kind of thing. So we've basically provided with a list of all of
- 22:47the excuses and all the reasons why women leaders fail, And for me,
- 22:49that's really right of the root of the issue is that if you're a leader,
- 22:55you have to take responsibility. You can't blame it on those people over
- 22:57there or those people over there saying nasty things about you on the internet.
- 23:02Right, You've got to take responsibility and I think that's the most important thing.
- 23:06Okay, thank you, Let's move on. If you like what the
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- 23:34Debbie, very briefly, your blog isn't up yet, but it will be
- 23:38this afternoon. What have you got for us this week? Your prostates is
- 23:45one message? And yes I did get a text, it wasn't from Love
- 23:48Island. I wasn't very amused. If you want to know more, have
- 23:52a look and yeah, traffic lights and new color plenty more as well.
- 23:56Okay, thank you, and a reminder that we will be hosting an online
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- 24:26there if you can. And Debbie, we have a bit of news about
- 24:32the MHRA board meeting. Well it's an unad Have you ever heard of an
- 24:37unadd before? Because luckily I took a screenshot of when the next MHRA board
- 24:44meeting was going to be and it was day June Rain's last board meeting her
- 24:47Swan Song where we were all going to wait for goodbye on Tuesday the ninth
- 24:51of July twenty twenty four. So we were looking forward to that and thanks
- 24:55to Paul for letting me know because he was trying to get tickets for it
- 24:59as I was, and all of a sudden it's gone. So is this
- 25:03the first unadvert that UK column are putting out but where is it gone?
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- 25:12why yes, and maybe ask for it to be reinstated, because we want
- 25:18to offer Dame June the final opportunity to answer some questions. Okay, thank
- 25:23you, wie Ni. Let's come on to Africa and well. First of
- 25:29all, here is the Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov. He has been in
- 25:34Guinea, Congo, Burkina Faso and Chad over the last few days. Is
- 25:38the Deputy Defense Minister Yukiov has been visiting Libya, Mali and Niger. So
- 25:45they've been taking separate trips and so these are really the efforts to gain some
- 25:52traction in Africa against what's been going on for at least the influence of western
- 25:59parts, including the US, UK and France and the United States. So
- 26:02these are the countries that they have been or at least the Russia has influence
- 26:07in already. So the ones in pink there or sort of reddish color are
- 26:11places where there's already some military deployment. The countries that are marked in yellow
- 26:17are places where there's already a defense agreement with Russia, but their main point
- 26:22here is that they're really aiming to strengthen economic engagement in these countries in various
- 26:29sectors, especially in nuclear energy, and they're aiming to mitigate the impact of
- 26:36pressure between these countries Russia and the West. So they're attempting to, shall
- 26:42we see, develop new export markets for these places as well. And they
- 26:47of course also want to garner some new political allies in the region. And
- 26:53we've seen for example France for the French military and also the US military being
- 26:59being expelled from a number of countries in the Sahel. And as we were
- 27:03talking about Monday's programmer Friday last week, I can't remember which we were talking
- 27:10about the fact that the Sahel is sort of the men viewed as the men
- 27:15stomping ground of the European Union. They consider that their southern neighborhood. It's
- 27:19a place where Tony Blair and his institute is very interested in operating. So
- 27:25there is a definite effort to counter any Chinese or Russian influence in the region.
- 27:30And the fact that they are working so hard to develop these markets,
- 27:34particularly since the sanction regime was imposed, makes us a real hotbed for potential
- 27:41escalation in the future. In the meantime, many of those African countries taking
- 27:47part in the Saint Petersburg International Economic Forum, which is going on at the
- 27:51moment, and we have a little bit of video of Vladimir Putin talking about
- 27:56He was talking on the sidelines of the conference's men's speech is happening right at
- 28:00this moment, I believe, or it may just be over, but anyway,
- 28:03he was talking about the situation with Nero and the narrative of Russia wanting
- 28:07to take over Europe. Let's have a lesson to this or watch the subtitles.
- 28:11At least you know the fea Aubrara guy is racie it. But the
- 28:22pre see who should another was Brian st to watch the coat stool a predomble
- 28:30shoes Brian saba, no bib at biba the ystu craolc solution and I should
- 28:49the prology and then no crayon as literated deal. We just ready substant named
- 28:56Piers, what literuated deal is? What led you it to Guruzi, the
- 29:02pole burgher of Germaenuva France in Europe? What did you do it? I'm
- 29:17going to say, I find it very hard to argue with that particularly with
- 29:19the escalation in Ukraine. Now, we were talking about the fact that Ukraine
- 29:25has now been given to go ahead to attack targets inside Russia using Western weapons,
- 29:30and somebody had commented the to me that, of course this has been
- 29:33going on for quite some time. Well, that's true, but it's it's
- 29:37the targets that have been selected more recently that are of concern here. Particularly
- 29:41so this is a responsible state craft website here. Droning Russia's nuke radars is
- 29:47the dumbest threat thing Ukraine could do, and this is the point. The
- 29:49latest targets have been Russia's nuclear early warning systems, and of course this is
- 29:56a direct attack on Russia's nuclear in structure and that escalates things somewhat. So
- 30:03you know, Putin has been absolutely clear now that this is absolutely unacceptable.
- 30:07So he's basically saying that if Russia is attacked, it has the legal right
- 30:11to retaliate. Such accent actions could lead to a major disaster, effectively world
- 30:17War three, and I think that's absolutely right, and the danger in what
- 30:22we are doing at this point in the West is off the charts. And
- 30:26the other point to make was, you know, just listening to Joe Biden
- 30:30at the D Day commemoration yesterday was quite incredible as he used that as an
- 30:37opportunity to suggest or draw parallels between what's happening with Ukraine and what happened during
- 30:44the Second World War. And just to end this segment, I just want
- 30:47to bring this on screen because this is the Telegraph and we just always got
- 30:52to watch the headlines and see the types of language that they're using. So
- 30:56the headline on this article yes from today actually or yesterday, it was Russian
- 31:02warships sent the Caribbean for surprise wargames. So when the Russians are doing it,
- 31:07it's wargames because it's all about war. When we're doing it, it's
- 31:11a training exercise and you've got to be So the headline from this one is
- 31:15picture of the HMS Prince of Wales's full steam ahead in NATO training exercise.
- 31:19This is a steadfast defender that we talked about earlier in the year because this
- 31:23is the biggest NATO exercise that's taken place ever, and so I just thought
- 31:30it was interesting the contrast the language that's used in those two cases, because
- 31:37Russia is all about war and we're all about peace, aren't we, Debbie.
- 31:41Let's come back on to the issue of anti microbial resistance. Yes,
- 31:45let's and apologies again that I'm sitting in the dark, But people ask me
- 31:51a lot what is coming next? What do I think is coming next?
- 31:52Is it av and flu? Is it? This? Is it? That?
- 31:55Is it? Whatever? It is? Anti microbi or resistance, according
- 31:59to the WHO is one of the top global emerging threats fact. Now,
- 32:04this is a really big subject and it's a subject that I'm going to be
- 32:07doing a one off special with Cheryl Granger, especially on antimicrobial resistance. But
- 32:14I think that it could be a dark winter ahead. What have they got
- 32:17planned for us? Well, I'll just say hashtag walking pneumonia. Keep an
- 32:22eye out for walking pneumonia. There's going to be more to come. But
- 32:27is this an attack on the gut biome? Now, I've got a lot
- 32:29to get through. So it's going to be slides fairly quickly. So bear
- 32:32with me because this is just an overview of a huge, huge subject.
- 32:37So let's start off with antibiotic guardian and now you're going to have to get
- 32:42well soon without antibiotics. Now just note that without antibiotics, So where are
- 32:50we going to go from there? Well, according to Kings, today,
- 32:53we're living in an age where antimicrobials could on average put twenty years on your
- 33:00life if we save antibiotics. Now, this paper came out in twenty seventeen,
- 33:07but it's a bigger gender for TEDROS and the who. Let's listen to
- 33:12what TEDROS says about antimicrobial resistance. Antimicrobia resistance or AMR threatens to send us
- 33:22back to a time whenever minor infections were untreatable. Already, MR contributes to
- 33:30nearly five million doses every year. These drug resistant infections are driven by the
- 33:37misuse and overuse of anti microbials in both humans and animals. World MR Awareness
- 33:45Week is an opportunity to draw attention to what all of us can do.
- 33:50This means clean water, sanitation and hygiene, and infection prevention and control in
- 33:55health facilities. It means vaccines for chill undred and older people and others most
- 34:02at risk. It means responsible use of anti microbils in all sectors. And
- 34:09it means a one held approach that recognize the links between the held of humans,
- 34:16animals and our environment. Stopping AMR is a shared responsibility. Take note,
- 34:27it's a shared responsibility. So in September, this September twenty twenty four
- 34:32is a United Nations General Assembly High Level meeting on AMR. Now, this
- 34:38is going to be a massive meeting and it's going to coincide with a lot
- 34:43of social messaging that you're going to hear. When you go further into that
- 34:46document, you can see the roadmap. So this all started in twenty fourteen
- 34:51and here we are in twenty twenty four waiting for the UN General Assembly meeting.
- 34:58But they clearly have calleded now a political declaration, a major milestone for
- 35:02increased political action. So antimicrobial resistance has become a political football. And one
- 35:09more slide on from that, you can see that we've got the private public
- 35:14partnership also mentioned there, and at the bottom you'll see that the UK launches
- 35:20world's first substitute for anti antibiotics supply. And of course what have we got
- 35:24in the UK, But we've got the Fleming Center and we featured the Fleming
- 35:29Center last week. This is at Saint Mary's Hospital, Paddington, and this
- 35:32is going to be a center designed for the next five years to fight anti
- 35:38microbial resistance. Now this is also a Labor Party campaign. You know,
- 35:44this is a big political football. So here you can see on Labor list
- 35:47antimicrobial resistance the biggest health challenge of our time. So again a political football.
- 35:55I want you to look at the government's documents though, because they've got
- 35:59a and their vision is not impressive. This document was published in two nineteen
- 36:05and what it says is that one in three patients in hospitals in England are
- 36:09on an antibiotic at any one time, and one in three individuals in England
- 36:15takes at least one course of antibiotics every year. The report also goes on
- 36:21to talk about a collaborative future. Now this collaborative future is with the same
- 36:25old names that we're used to, the research community, the United Nations,
- 36:30the European Union G seven, G twenty. We're looking at industry, private
- 36:36sector, but take notes, we're looking at the patients, the public and
- 36:40in particular we're looking at animal owners. So just take note. But what
- 36:45have we got to do. We've got to be ready, willing and engage
- 36:46because this is going to be up to us everybody. We have got to
- 36:51do our duty. We have got to virtue signal to say that we won't
- 36:55use antibiotics if we don't need to or when we don't need to. So
- 37:00the Global AMR Innovation Fund otherwise known as GAMRIF, is to support early stage
- 37:09innovative research in underfunded areas of antimicrobial resistance. Now, this again is a
- 37:16private public partnership working with research organizations, governments and industry, and it's also
- 37:22targeting the one health approach. But who runs this? So there are two
- 37:29people that I want to highlight to run this in particular. There's lots of
- 37:32them, but we're just for time going to keep it too. Christopher Egiton
- 37:37Warburton is the chair of the Expert Advisory Group and will represent GAMERIF internationally.
- 37:44And we've got Professor Keith Klugman there from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
- 37:47So let's have a quick look at those two people. And there you can
- 37:51see Christopher Egeton Warburton of Lion's Head. And if you look a bit further
- 37:57you can see that he spent fourteen years at Goldman Sacho follow the money and
- 38:01then very quickly onto Keith Klukman, Professor Keith Klukman at the Bill, Melinda
- 38:07Gates Foundation. Now interestingly he specializes in pneumonia, as does Professor Graham Cook,
- 38:15chair of the MHRA board. They are looking specifically at pneumonia, So
- 38:20walking pneumonia and pneumonia for winter twenty twenty four I think we should be looking
- 38:24at But let's not forget the UK has our very own special envoy for anti
- 38:30microbial resistance, Dame Sally Davis. We have shown this before, but let's
- 38:36just remind ourselves of a quick piece of video from her very good self.
- 38:43We all know that without diagnostics, current new antibiotics will be incorrectly prescribed and
- 38:51overused. That'll speed up the development of resistance and puts us all at increased
- 38:58risk. Note the word they're diagnostics, because this is all about diagnostics.
- 39:13This is about putting sticks up your nose and testing you for things. But
- 39:16recently the government bought out this paper and this is a very very important paper.
- 39:22Please can I get everybody to go and have a look at this Confronting
- 39:24Antimicrobial Resistance twenty twenty four to twenty twenty nine. Let's go and look a
- 39:30little bit further in because you'll see that what they've done is they've taken the
- 39:32lessons from COVID and they're rolling them out now for antimicrobial resistance. So engagement
- 39:38with industry, regulatory pathways will come onto that in a minute, and innovations
- 39:43in vaccine technology just to name but a few. And of course we've got
- 39:47to be a good global partner. The UK has got to play its part
- 39:52in this, so we have to achieve the vision and it's the public in
- 39:55the UK that have to become the good global partners. Going further on in
- 40:00the document, I just want you to take special notice of this. Several
- 40:05initiatives across the UK are in place to ensure that citizens know that water from
- 40:09their taps is safe to drink and that their sewage waste is being properly managed
- 40:15and treated. This includes regulation of water companies and monitoring of waterways, and
- 40:22so regulators and water companies will play a vital role in this area. Now
- 40:25we'll come on to a bit more about that in a minute, but also
- 40:30in the documents it refers to Port and Down. What it says about Port
- 40:35and Down is that it has a four bedded ward and isolation rooms with dedicated
- 40:39heating, ventilation, air conditioning, realistic water and drainage systems, what to
- 40:45look at to look at antibiotic resistance infections, and they're going to be looking
- 40:52through a number of transmission routes fomites, aerosols, pathogen, but also hospital
- 40:59water systems. I want you to take special note of hospital water systems.
- 41:04Could this be going forward what we're going to be looking at. It also
- 41:07mentions hospital laundry there too, And I have to say I've been barking on
- 41:10about nurses uniforms for a very long time, but you know it affects the
- 41:15kids too, because we have to target the young right, So courtesy of
- 41:19the UKHSA, here's ebug and now we're going to be teaching three year olds,
- 41:23three to sixteen year olds all about vaccines, all about antimicrobial resistance,
- 41:29and all about hygiene. And there is a lovely little video to go with
- 41:31that. Maybe we can look at it at another week in the news,
- 41:36but they're definitely targeting the youngsters. And also in the paper is pace.
- 41:40This is a thirty million pound program over five years. There's your Life,
- 41:45there's your five years again Life arc Innovate Medicine's Discovery Catapults. I'm sure Headley
- 41:52Reese will be very pleased to hear the word catapults, and this is going
- 41:54to strengthen the pipeline. So you're going to get some nice new antimicrobial drugs
- 42:00coming down the pipeline. But of course the MHRA are involved, and the
- 42:04paper does mention the MHRA and says that they're going to be responsible for regulation
- 42:09of all of these new drugs because it's very, very important. So let's
- 42:14go on to see the new group that the MHRA have appointed and here they've
- 42:19got one point eight million courtesy of the Department of Health and Social Care,
- 42:22especially to look at how to fast track all these drugs coming down the pipeline.
- 42:30So let's go to the MHRA blog. I did tell you there was
- 42:32a lot and I'm trying to get through it as quickly as I can.
- 42:36So the MHRA are deeming antimicrobial resistance as a looming global health emergency. They
- 42:43also say that the unexpected potential solution to AMR could come in the form of
- 42:47a bacterial vaccine. Well that's surprising, isn't it. So we're going to
- 42:52be treating antimicrobial resistance with vaccines and we're going to be using novel needle free
- 42:59delivery vaccine candidates for things like group A and B strep. Also, you'll
- 43:05be pleased to know that the MHR are involved in a transatlantic task force on
- 43:08antimicrobial resistance and they want to identify solutions to the problem that hasn't yet happened
- 43:16as soon as possible, and just to we are going to be finishing up,
- 43:21I promise you. But I just want to put out a warning because
- 43:23it seems to be there though, targeting pregnant mums, saying to pregnant mums,
- 43:28if you use antibiotics in pregnancy, this could affect your unborn baby.
- 43:34And here they're using seboek dermatitis as an example. So what have we got
- 43:37coming down the pipeline. Well, Oxford suggests we've got a novel triple drug
- 43:43combination effective against antibiotic resistant bacteria. And I've just put the academic paper for
- 43:49anybody that's interested to go and have a look at it. The triple combination
- 43:52of merropenum, avir, bactum and metallo lactamase. None of it sounds good
- 43:59at all, but please go and look at that. Also, we've got
- 44:02mRNA vaccine platforms. Are they going to be the next solution, Well,
- 44:07yes, it looks as though they are. And one on from that on
- 44:10the conclusion, it says that mRNA vaccine platform could be a promising solution to
- 44:16the challenge is currently encountered in AMR vaccine development, although the jury is still
- 44:22out. I'm sure the jury won't be out for long. Antibiotic Research UK
- 44:27they're talking also about could mRNA vaccines protect us from antibiotic resistant infections? So
- 44:34what have we got to do? Well, we've all got to become antibiotic
- 44:37guardians. This was started in two fourteen, but they're going to ramp it
- 44:40up. Just note the names. They're British Society for Antimicrobial Chemotherapy. Don't
- 44:46we all associate chemotherapy with cancer? However, now it's associated with antimicrobial resistance.
- 44:53And what are you going to do? Well, you're going to make
- 44:55a pledge. You have to make a pledge to the United Kingdom government,
- 45:00to the United Kingdom HSA. But you're going to be very good and you'll
- 45:04make better use of antibiotics and you'll help save antibiotics from becoming obsolete. And
- 45:09if you really want to go the full the full mile, you can buy
- 45:14your very own antimicrobial lapel pin to show that you're virtue signaling. So that
- 45:20was a quick shoe run around, but there's so much more to come.
- 45:23Yeah, I mean, we're going to talk a bit more about this in
- 45:25extra Debbie, but I wanted to just get your comment on the main news
- 45:30about this comment about not using antibotics when we don't need to. I don't
- 45:35believe there's anybody that that attempts to use antibiotics when they don't need to.
- 45:38They're either fed them by their doctors. You know, that's basically the reason.
- 45:45And you know, bearing in mind damage that antibiotics do to the gut
- 45:50microbiome. This isn't something that people do as a matter of choice. They're
- 45:53not trying to buy them off the shelves like Swedies. They are handed them
- 45:58by the doctor for presumably medical reasons. Yeah, one hundred percent. And
- 46:05I mean, you know, at the end of the day, this is
- 46:07an assault on our gut biome at the end of the day. And who
- 46:10says we're resistant to antibiotics? Are antibiotics being made, being manufactured a little
- 46:15bit bit less powerful so that they don't work in order for us to think
- 46:20that they don't work. There's a much bigger agenda here, Mike, and
- 46:22perhaps we'll talk about because behavior is involved in this big time as well,
- 46:28nudging, so maybe we'll talk about it a bit more in extra Okay,
- 46:31thank you, Ben. Let's come on to you. And what's Imperial College
- 46:37been up to. That's a very good question. Yes, you brought them
- 46:40up earlier with Neil Ferguson's involvement in the COVID scenario. And they're running a
- 46:46big event this week called Leading Systemic Innovation in Healthcare. Let's hear a bit
- 46:51more about it. This is a really exciting time in health. We stand
- 47:00at the dawn of the greatest changes in science, medicine, and technology.
- 47:05But on the other hand, we have growing levels of ill health and sickness.
- 47:09So our challenge is how do we reconcile these two worlds. So this
- 47:14is the innovation challenge in front of us. Imperial is an ideal place to
- 47:22explore these innovation challenges in healthcare. It has a great history of innovation.
- 47:28It has a business school, but it also has a medical school and links
- 47:31to hospitals, so it's embedded into this healthcare system and has therefore a three
- 47:37hundred and sixty degree view of these kind of challenges. We will be covering
- 47:40themes such as the future of healthcare. So we were looking at these major
- 47:45trends and how they like to play out that shapes the landscape we're in.
- 47:49We'll be investigating more deeply innovation as we currently see it through products and services,
- 47:53but also extending that to systems innovation. How do we innovate our organizations
- 47:59in the eco systems? This is an important piece that's often missing from thinking.
- 48:04We'll then dive deeper into looking at some of these frontiers of what's happening
- 48:07in genomics, personalized medicine, as well as AI and behavior change and other
- 48:15dimensions that form the suite of capabilities required to be successful in healthcare. And
- 48:21then we'll finish off with looking at how do we bring these innovations alive within
- 48:24our organization at a faster pace than we're currently used to, and how do
- 48:29we think about our organizations as cultural platforms for innovation. What does this mean
- 48:35for leadership? What does it mean for the culture of change within our organization.
- 48:38So there'll be some practical tools and insights that people can take away and
- 48:44bring benefit to their organization. This program provides an ideal opportunity to bring people
- 48:50from across the healthcare spectrum together into the same room. So this program is
- 48:54going to give people an opportunity to meet peers across the healthcare spectrum together exploring
- 49:01this shared innovation challenge of how we prove the quality and impact of healthcare at
- 49:08life. So that is an event that is happening this week, is happening
- 49:15right now leading systemic innovation in healthcare. It's an executive education program at Imperial.
- 49:21Imperial heavily backed by the Gates Foundation, the source of a lot of
- 49:23the misinformation it's led to the lockdowns and everything that we had to live through
- 49:29back in twenty twenty and subsequently. The guy speaking with Andy Wilkins, he
- 49:35describes himself as a futurist, always slightly suspicious of people who call themselves futurists,
- 49:39to be honest with you, and he's very excited about AI genomics and
- 49:44behavior change, which is the full suite of capabilities for healthcare systems leadership.
- 49:50Right it is their little box of tricks that they've got to get you to
- 49:52do things that you want, that they want you to do, and to
- 49:55experiment on you. I was really quite taken with the the image at the
- 50:00top there because what that is is a view inside the Digital Control Center.
- 50:05You can see that it's the Imperial College London Centinel program delivered in partnership with
- 50:12the Defense Science and Technology that ab at Porton down right, So this is
- 50:15a joint partnership between them, and this is essentially the system's leader view of
- 50:21all of the fake data coming from the dodgy PC artest that are going to
- 50:25flash up on screen so they can play whack a mole across the country.
- 50:30They've got the US up on the screen there, but the same thing absolutely
- 50:34the same capability as in place and applies in the UK. There's another view
- 50:37of it here you can see, which was in the video shared and basically
- 50:40this is where they call the big shots centrally across the whole of the population.
- 50:46I think that gives you a really interesting insight into how the whole system
- 50:52operates in the background and how these big decisions got made. Now, talking
- 50:55about dodgy data, I'm going to flip from a pandemic data and health data
- 51:00into the into the climate debate. And you would have noticed over the past
- 51:05few weeks. The people like the met off this have been trying to convince
- 51:09us that it's been the hottest May on record, that we've been breaking all
- 51:13sorts of barriers in terms of the heat that we've experienced in the country.
- 51:16But anyone who actually lives in the country, has been in the country the
- 51:20entire time, knows that that's complete nonsense. We've even seen snow in Scotland
- 51:23over the past few weeks. Right, this just doesn't make sense. And
- 51:28you hear a lot of people saying, oh, well, they're really getting
- 51:30desperate now, you know, they're going to try and pull one over on
- 51:32us, But we're not going to We're not going to go along with it.
- 51:35But I think what it's important for people to understand and to remember is
- 51:37that this isn't actually directed at you. This is directed at young people.
- 51:43Right. So the people that have been completely immersed in this whole narrative through
- 51:47their education and don't have the context. They don't they want alive in,
- 51:52you know, the nineties or even earlier than that, for example, so
- 51:55they don't know, right, so they very much go along with what they've
- 51:59been told. They've jeed up into this climate anxiety, especially younger women,
- 52:04right, and this certainly feeds into what I was talking about earlier in terms
- 52:07of female leadership, and what you have is people like Greta Thnburg or people
- 52:12like Clover Hogan, who you can see here in this Guardian article. He's
- 52:15becoming much more prominent, essentially terrorizing young people to get them to go along
- 52:22with whatever recommendations are made. In this instance, as it relates to the
- 52:27energy system, it will be great British energy. This new nationalized energy system
- 52:37the Labor Party is going to try and push through. They're going to push
- 52:38it through not just on a climate issue, but also on a national security
- 52:44issue. So he's talking about closing the door on Putin. This is Keir
- 52:47Starmer. But obviously we know that it's not just about it's not just about
- 52:52Russia. The Lammy has been playing kiss up to Zelenski. This is just
- 52:59yesterday from the Deed celebrations, so you can see that the Labor leadership are
- 53:02very much on the narrative as it relates to Ukraine. And actually the World
- 53:08Economic Forum is just announced this week. This is actually last week. This
- 53:13is a huge, huge development. They've just announced the new global Government Technology
- 53:17Center in Kiev. This is going to focus on public private partnerships, digital
- 53:22transformation and delivering the Fourth Industrial Revolution. That's what they're absolutely focused on,
- 53:30and that's what this propaganda push is going to carry us into if we don't
- 53:36pay closer attention to it. And then just the final one to wrap up
- 53:38here. We've also seen this week the Sustainable Markets Initiative Terra Carta. They
- 53:45had their big meeting over in New York, the s thirty group of Chief
- 53:47Sustainability Officers attended by Arlo Brady representive Freud Group, Goals House hosted by ESDA
- 53:55Ludo, which is connected to the Rothschild family. Eyd about at length previously,
- 54:00and this is how again the narrative is being placed through by Team Global.
- 54:08Yeah, okay, thank you. Now let's leave it with this article.
- 54:14This is The Guardian and it's George Mombiat, the wonderful George Mombiat.
- 54:19We all love him to bits, particularly when he's attacking people in his local
- 54:22area on The Guardian totally without justification, but anyway, I hope everybody appreciates
- 54:28the sarcasm and that general elections are a travesty of democracy, says let's give
- 54:32the people a real voice. So let's have a look and see what he's
- 54:36saying here. An election is a device for maximizing conflict and minimizing democracy.
- 54:42Parties gained ground by sowing division and anger, often around trivial issues that play
- 54:46to their advantage. Communities are set against each other. See how the Tories
- 54:51appeal to their elderly base by treating young people as a problem to be solved
- 54:54currently through national service. He doesn't say anything about how all politicians are treating
- 55:00elderly people as a problem at the moment that need to be dealt with through
- 55:04euthanasia. But anyway, that's not worry about that. He goes on to
- 55:07say in David Van Raybrooks's excellent book Against Elections, he favors sortician and he
- 55:14defined sortitionan as choosing members of political bodies by lottery. This is how much
- 55:19of political life was run in ancient Athens and in Venice, Florence and other
- 55:22European cities in the second millennium. And I will talk about Venice in the
- 55:27second but remember that Florence was the home of the Florentine banking oligarchy or the
- 55:35Lombard banking system, and of course that migrated through the Netherlands into the city
- 55:39of London, which is why the streets in London are called Lombard Street,
- 55:44and banks tend to have the word Lombard in them around the place. So
- 55:49when we're looking at whether Florence or Venice should be held up as being the
- 55:53bastion of the best way to be governed, well, get an idea of
- 55:59what Florence, of what sorry Venice was like from this book The Bravo by
- 56:02James Fennimore Cooper. If you haven't read it, read it, because what
- 56:07is what we need to understand about Venice. First of all, it was
- 56:12an oligarchy, so the dose was at the top, and it was absolutely
- 56:15an oligarchy. Political assassination was commonplace, and the favorite weapon was the stiletto.
- 56:22And well, maybe there's an argument for bringing all this back. I
- 56:25don't know, maybe that's what Mombiat's calling for. I'm not sure that that's
- 56:30terribly clear. But Ben, you know the issue of sortition. People still
- 56:37don't quite grasp why this is important. Yes, well, I mean they're
- 56:43going to completely transform. The plan is to completely transform the way that decisions
- 56:49are made in the country. And it's not just Mombiot saying it. This
- 56:52is Labor Party policy more or less. You know, Sue Gray, who
- 56:55is effectively operating Case Arma, a big proponent of it. And the thing
- 57:00that jumps out at me is just this idea that we're going to select people
- 57:04by lottery. I don't want decision makers selected by lottery. I want the
- 57:07best people in the room making the decision, not necessarily even on my behalf,
- 57:13right, this is it. It's removing our voice and it's extremely dangerous.
- 57:20Yeah. But on the other hand, people would argue that what we've
- 57:22got at the moment is I mean, that's the argument he is making,
- 57:25that what we've got is a disaster. But what he's suggests as we threw
- 57:30the baby out with the bathwater, most people are forgetting that what the proposal
- 57:35for sortition allows for an evil, even worse situation. And that's the point
- 57:39that we've got to discuss further. But we will do that and extra as
- 57:44well. But look, I just want to end today with a couple of
- 57:46sort of and finally slides. So first of all, it's male article which
- 57:51is quite staggering New Bridget Jones film being shot on the side of school falsely
- 57:57accused of running a satanic pedophile ring. So this is the school at the
- 58:01center of the allegations of satanic abuse, the child abuse in Hampstead. So
- 58:07this is what they say, but it's unclear The mail says whether producers were
- 58:12aware of the school's past before setting fictional North London school setting the fiction North
- 58:17London school on its grounds. Christ Church Primary was recently the subject of a
- 58:22Channel four documentary accused the Hampstead pedophile hoax, which shook up the quiet suburban
- 58:29neighborhood in twenty fourteen, not just Channel four pseudo documentary but also a big
- 58:36supposed expos by Tortoise Media as well. So we'll talk about that a little
- 58:40bit more in extra, but I'll leave you with this because if you remember,
- 58:45a few months ago, we mentioned the fact that the UK's early warning
- 58:50system early warning radar system, which of course points towards Russia, was being
- 58:55subverted by our own net zero policy because of course we'd been building wind farms
- 59:00offshore off the east coast of England and that's the direction the radar points in
- 59:06and these things scatter the radar, so unfortunately the radar wasn't working terribly well.
- 59:12You'll be glad to know that the UK, this is defense I saying,
- 59:15the UK pays to mitigate wind farm radar effects. You'll be glad to
- 59:20know that we have set aside one billion pounds of Great British points in order
- 59:24to mitigate the effect of our own net zero policy on our early warning radar
- 59:30system, which is supposed to tell us when Putin is firing his nuclear missiles
- 59:36at us. I find it incredible that we are wasting this money in this
- 59:39way, but we can talk about that an extra perhaps as well. So
- 59:44we've got to leave it there for today. So I'm going to say thank
- 59:45you very much everybody that joined us, thanks to Ben and Debbie. We'll
- 59:49see you in a few minutes if you're a UK column member on extra.
- 59:52Otherwise, have a great weekend and we'll see it Monday as usual one pm.
- 59:55Bye bye. At empty