Latest / Financial Survival Network / Gold & Copper Boom, Government Debt Crisis, and Corruption Exposed - John Rubino #6262
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What do we do with the debt as part of this,
- 0:02Speaker 1: because we have to be able to pay it out somehow, someway.
- 0:04Speaker 1: But we lower the value of the debt by raising
- 0:08Speaker 1: the price of gold. Yeah, and then you enrage the
- 0:12Speaker 1: people who get screwed because they own the debt. And see,
- 0:16Speaker 1: that's the battle of going to the gold standard is
- 0:18Speaker 1: that you have to screw over the people who trusted
- 0:23Speaker 1: the government, and then you have to survive their anger.
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- 0:54Speaker 3: And welcome you are listening to and watching the Financial
- 0:58Speaker 3: Survival Network. I'm your host, Carrie Lutz. John Rabino is
- 1:02Speaker 3: back with us, and boy have we got a lot
- 1:05Speaker 3: of stuff to talk about here, John, I mean so
- 1:09Speaker 3: much for intros here. First, we kind of got brought
- 1:13Speaker 3: together by gold and gold is over three thousand bucks.
- 1:18Speaker 3: I'm sure they're going to knock it down below maybe
- 1:20Speaker 3: they'll get it down to twenty eight hundred. But as
- 1:24Speaker 3: you noted, gold and copper had both hit all time
- 1:27Speaker 3: highs this month.
- 1:30Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, Carrie, in the past month, gold and copper
- 1:34Speaker 1: both went and you know, you can put a chart
- 1:36Speaker 1: out going to the from the like nineteen eighties, nineteen
- 1:40Speaker 1: seventies to today, and it is a phenomenally good looking
- 1:44Speaker 1: bull market, even though it didn't always feel like that
- 1:46Speaker 1: for us, right there were these long stretches where where
- 1:50Speaker 1: that was one of the most golden for instance, was
- 1:52Speaker 1: one of the most boring things to be in and
- 1:54Speaker 1: what it is deplantment. But you know, you look at
- 1:56Speaker 1: that long term chart and this was a rock and
- 1:59Speaker 1: bull market for all of this century for sure. You know,
- 2:02Speaker 1: since two thousand, gold has outperformed the S and P
- 2:06Speaker 1: five hundred, which you how many people would guess that
- 2:10Speaker 1: after this epic equities bull market that we've seen so far,
- 2:15Speaker 1: and then copper is starting to come around. People are
- 2:17Speaker 1: finally figuring out the copper is not this boring, old
- 2:21Speaker 1: old tech thing. It's an energy metal, you know, it's
- 2:23Speaker 1: an energy transition commodity that we have to have if
- 2:28Speaker 1: AI is actually going to be a big force in
- 2:31Speaker 1: the world going forward, because ais require massive ANNs of electricity.
- 2:35Speaker 1: Can't get that without copper. So anyhow, the mining stocks
- 2:41Speaker 1: are finally starting to respond to this long, kind of
- 2:46Speaker 1: secretive gold bull market and the kind of sudden one
- 2:49Speaker 1: with copper. And it turns out that the best profile
- 2:54Speaker 1: for mining stock is copper slash gold. Right. You know,
- 2:57Speaker 1: if you have those two things now, you're getting very
- 3:01Speaker 1: wide profit margins because every ounce or pound or whatever
- 3:06Speaker 1: of whatever you're selling is becoming more valuable. You're getting
- 3:09Speaker 1: more cash, and your costs aren't really going up recently
- 3:13Speaker 1: because oil has gone down in the last year, went
- 3:16Speaker 1: from eighty some dollars a barrel to sixty some dollars
- 3:19Speaker 1: a barrel recently, and that means mining, which is an
- 3:23Speaker 1: energy intensive business, didn't get more expensive in the past year,
- 3:28Speaker 1: or at least not way more expensive. So you're seeing
- 3:30Speaker 1: these wide profit margins and first quarter earnings this year
- 3:35Speaker 1: are going to be excellent because gold went up again
- 3:38Speaker 1: in the first quarter, and that means that a lot
- 3:41Speaker 1: of the good quality gold and silver and copper miners
- 3:46Speaker 1: are going to put up excellent numbers, and maybe the
- 3:48Speaker 1: kind of numbers that show up on the radar screens
- 3:52Speaker 1: of momentum investors. So you get momentum investing money coming
- 3:57Speaker 1: into what has been a kind of a special list
- 4:01Speaker 1: value oriented investing community that's very small, very thinly traded.
- 4:08Speaker 1: You know, you could see a lot of action going
- 4:10Speaker 1: forward because of that. And I'm doing a subsect post
- 4:13Speaker 1: on one of the stocks that really benefits from this.
- 4:17Speaker 1: And to give an example here, Sandstorm Goal is a
- 4:21Speaker 1: royalty company that a few years ago made a big
- 4:24Speaker 1: acquisition to guarantee its growth for the next decade. But
- 4:28Speaker 1: it took on a massive amount of debt in the process,
- 4:31Speaker 1: and that debt has been weighing them down. You know,
- 4:34Speaker 1: they've been whittling it at it, but they haven't gotten
- 4:36Speaker 1: it paid off yet. But now people are looking at
- 4:39Speaker 1: that stock and going wow. You know, with their margins
- 4:42Speaker 1: widening out, you know, they make like twenty five hundred
- 4:45Speaker 1: dollars per ounce of gold that they sell, they're going
- 4:48Speaker 1: to be able to really take a bite out of
- 4:50Speaker 1: that debt, which means their interest costs are going to
- 4:52Speaker 1: go down, which means their cash flow is going to
- 4:54Speaker 1: go up because of interest costs and because they're selling
- 4:58Speaker 1: more gold. And it turns out a lot of copper too,
- 5:01Speaker 1: So suddenly this is the profile of the stock that
- 5:06Speaker 1: you really want to own after you know, three or
- 5:08Speaker 1: four years of just languishing. I think there's a lot
- 5:11Speaker 1: of that going on in the precious metal sector right now,
- 5:13Speaker 1: where you know, boring companies that just didn't look that interesting,
- 5:18Speaker 1: we're putting up that grade of numbers or anything. Suddenly,
- 5:22Speaker 1: you know, in the fourth quarter of twenty twenty four,
- 5:24Speaker 1: now the first quarter of twenty twenty five look like
- 5:27Speaker 1: growth stocks. So I think this is if we avoid
- 5:31Speaker 1: that correction that you mentioned as a real possibility. You know,
- 5:34Speaker 1: if gold doesn't drop back down to twenty five hundred
- 5:36Speaker 1: dollars an ounce, we're copper down to four fifty pounds.
- 5:40Speaker 1: I think a lot of these stocks are going to
- 5:43Speaker 1: be treated like growth stocks by the investment community, and
- 5:47Speaker 1: they're going to have a really nice run.
- 5:50Speaker 3: And you know, at the same time, the majors we
- 5:55Speaker 3: got depleting reserves, dwindling reserves, and eminem has to heat
- 6:01Speaker 3: up because otherwise, at some point five years down the road,
- 6:06Speaker 3: their production's going to fall off a cliff and that
- 6:10Speaker 3: will cause you know, a lot of turmoil in these companies.
- 6:14Speaker 3: So they got to start buying again soon. You know,
- 6:18Speaker 3: it's funny that you mentioned the S and P. I
- 6:21Speaker 3: actually had chat GPT. I said, come up with a chart.
- 6:25Speaker 3: Show me the relative rates of return since nineteen ninety nine,
- 6:30Speaker 3: which was when I started buying gold. All right, it
- 6:35Speaker 3: had it down at like two ninety I think I
- 6:39Speaker 3: bought it to eighty. And show me silver and S
- 6:45Speaker 3: and P five hundred and then tech stocks, you know
- 6:50Speaker 3: the top five. Now, gold was somewhere around nine and change.
- 6:57Speaker 3: Percent was seven and a half percent. The S and P,
- 7:04Speaker 3: believe it or not, was only five percent. I think
- 7:07Speaker 3: that that was a little bit more. That means even
- 7:10Speaker 3: with dividends, the and P did not out left warm gold.
- 7:14Speaker 3: I didn't calculate on but I did do total returns
- 7:17Speaker 3: to that included dividends, and the tech stocks were like
- 7:23Speaker 3: for that twenty five year period were at seventeen and change.
- 7:28Speaker 3: But then I did it for the past five years.
- 7:31Speaker 3: So obviously gold was up to like eleven percent or something,
- 7:34Speaker 3: and silver was up the tech stops were yielding thirty
- 7:38Speaker 3: plus percent. I didn't even bother doing it with bitcoin
- 7:42Speaker 3: because yeah, I was gonna say point, you know, it
- 7:46Speaker 3: just goes but exactly what you're saying is exactly it. Now.
- 7:53Speaker 3: You know, obviously there was a lot of periods there
- 7:56Speaker 3: where gold was underperforming or not performing and the stock
- 8:01Speaker 3: market was over performing. But it just amazed me when
- 8:04Speaker 3: I ran that chort how it normalized John over that
- 8:10Speaker 3: twenty five year period.
- 8:13Speaker 1: M hm. Yeah. And you know that chart that you
- 8:17Speaker 1: ran is basically a portrait of an over liquefied economy.
- 8:23Speaker 1: They were they were dumping so much new money into
- 8:25Speaker 1: the banking system and the rest of the economy that
- 8:28Speaker 1: basically everything caught a bid and everything went up. You know,
- 8:33Speaker 1: so they went up by varying amounts, but still that
- 8:37Speaker 1: those multi trillions of dollars of new credit that the
- 8:42Speaker 1: US government was creating and that the Japanese and Chinese
- 8:48Speaker 1: and European governments were all creating, that flowed into financial
- 8:53Speaker 1: assets and to a lesser extent, real asset. I mean,
- 8:55Speaker 1: you know, real estate went through the group too. If
- 8:57Speaker 1: you put house prices that it would have been right
- 9:01Speaker 1: there with tech stocks just.
- 9:02Speaker 3: About I'll go at the house and I will run
- 9:04Speaker 3: that short, y'all post it in the show notes.
- 9:07Speaker 1: Yeah. Good. And so what that means though, is that
- 9:13Speaker 1: going forward some of these overvalued assets have to crash.
- 9:18Speaker 1: And historically, when tech stocks have a decade of thirty
- 9:22Speaker 1: percent plus annual games, they go they join the ninety
- 9:26Speaker 1: percent club, you know, they just fall off the table.
- 9:28Speaker 3: Xerox ibm oh yeah.
- 9:31Speaker 1: I mean Amazon went down by ninety percent in between
- 9:36Speaker 1: two thousand and two thousand and two. So even the
- 9:39Speaker 1: really high quality tech stocks get so wildly overvalued. When
- 9:43Speaker 1: we you know, when a new technology catches our eye
- 9:48Speaker 1: and we decide that it's going to change the world
- 9:50Speaker 1: and it's going to go up forever, and we can
- 9:52Speaker 1: pay anything for the related stocks, you know, the stocks
- 9:55Speaker 1: get so overvalued that they can drop by fifty percent
- 9:58Speaker 1: and just be fairly valued again. But they never stop
- 10:01Speaker 1: at fifty percent. They have to keep on going down
- 10:05Speaker 1: to the depths of despair. And I think there's a
- 10:08Speaker 1: decent chance that that's the NASDAC over the next few years,
- 10:11Speaker 1: you know, but doubt you know, with what governments are doing, though,
- 10:16Speaker 1: it's very hard to predict because this is not completely
- 10:21Speaker 1: this is not very similar to these older market bubbles
- 10:24Speaker 1: and bursting bubbles and bus because we've already taken on
- 10:29Speaker 1: this insane amount of debt. So Normally, historically you had
- 10:33Speaker 1: to work that debt off via a huge crisis, but
- 10:38Speaker 1: this time around, nobody's playing that game. China just increased
- 10:42Speaker 1: their money supply parabolically. It just went straight up, So
- 10:47Speaker 1: they're they've got a real estate bust that they're trying
- 10:50Speaker 1: to liquify their way out of Europe was already well,
- 10:57Speaker 1: at least France was just refusing to obey the European
- 11:01Speaker 1: Union deficit rules. They were borrowing way more money than
- 11:05Speaker 1: they were allowed to. And now that the US has
- 11:08Speaker 1: apparently abandoned NATO, you got Germany and France and a
- 11:13Speaker 1: lot of the rest of Europe embarking on this massive
- 11:16Speaker 1: military build up. And they're going to exempt military spending
- 11:21Speaker 1: from the deficit caps. So they're still going to keep
- 11:24Speaker 1: to their deficit caps, except they're going to spend way
- 11:26Speaker 1: more money over here off but off balance sheet, And
- 11:30Speaker 1: so we've got this massive wave of governmental liquidity. Oh
- 11:34Speaker 1: and of course the US we're running two trillion dollar
- 11:37Speaker 1: deficits and the first five months of this fiscal year
- 11:41Speaker 1: was a record high deficit for the US. No crisis,
- 11:45Speaker 1: no war or anything, we just were running record high deficits.
- 11:48Speaker 1: So what does that do to financial assets. That's an
- 11:51Speaker 1: amazing amount of liquidity. You would think it would be
- 11:54Speaker 1: very inflationary and it would crush the currencies, but it
- 12:00Speaker 1: might elevate a lot of really speculative kinds of momentum stocks.
- 12:06Speaker 1: So we'll see.
- 12:07Speaker 3: You know, this is.
- 12:09Speaker 1: A really hard call based on history, because you've got
- 12:12Speaker 1: things pointing in different directions. And I don't really have
- 12:15Speaker 1: an answer for that, except that I think gold and
- 12:17Speaker 1: silver are going to do real well. They should be
- 12:19Speaker 1: one of the beneficiary. It's precious metals going forward.
- 12:23Speaker 3: Trump is a good for metals, that's for sure.
- 12:26Speaker 1: Yeah, And so the question is, I mean, this is
- 12:29Speaker 1: too early for us to start talking about this, but
- 12:31Speaker 1: you and I are going to have a recurring topic
- 12:34Speaker 1: at some point, which is when should you start taking
- 12:37Speaker 1: profits in precious metals related assets. And so I'll just
- 12:41Speaker 1: tell you my strategy right now is that, like you said,
- 12:45Speaker 1: the big guys have to buy out the little guys
- 12:47Speaker 1: to top up their reserves. So own a portfolio, which
- 12:51Speaker 1: is a big cross section of the mining industry, and
- 12:55Speaker 1: when a big guy buys your smaller player, take that
- 13:00Speaker 1: out in cash, you know, just cash out of that.
- 13:02Speaker 1: Don't wait for the big guy's stock to hit your account.
- 13:05Speaker 1: Just cash out and let the market tell you how
- 13:09Speaker 1: to build up cash. The acquisition binge and so you
- 13:14Speaker 1: don't really if you make that your rule, you don't
- 13:16Speaker 1: really have to think about whether this little explorer should
- 13:21Speaker 1: be worth one billion or three point five billion or what,
- 13:24Speaker 1: you know, whatever you could which you can't. You can't
- 13:27Speaker 1: calculate that. You can't really figure out what those things
- 13:30Speaker 1: are worth. But if Numont thinks it's worth two billion
- 13:35Speaker 1: and they're going to, you know, give you Numont stock
- 13:39Speaker 1: that reflects that, then you just sell the stock on
- 13:43Speaker 1: the day of the announcement. So anyhow, little strategy.
- 13:47Speaker 3: And historically they haven't been too good in these investments.
- 13:51Speaker 3: The majors, you know, some of them worked out really well.
- 13:55Speaker 3: But but if they bought a lot of garbage the left.
- 14:00Speaker 1: Yeah, because you know, during precious metals were markets, they
- 14:03Speaker 1: have massive cash flow. And what CEO can just sit
- 14:07Speaker 1: on a huge and rising cash flow stream, you know,
- 14:12Speaker 1: it burns a hole in their pocket. They start building
- 14:13Speaker 1: empires and they pay for acquisitions. So let the big
- 14:18Speaker 1: guys overpaying be your signal to start raising cash. And
- 14:24Speaker 1: there have been very few acquisitions in my portfolio so far.
- 14:29Speaker 1: Silvercrest Metals got bought out just lately. But that's it,
- 14:34Speaker 1: I think, you know. So I'm looking forward to writing
- 14:37Speaker 1: some substack posts with titles like our third Acquisition, our
- 14:41Speaker 1: fourth acquisition. You know when when they start getting bought out.
- 14:46Speaker 3: It's amazing, amazing. So what about doge Can you believe
- 14:53Speaker 3: the amount of fraud that is present? I mean, we
- 14:56Speaker 3: knew it was there, we just didn't know perhaps how
- 15:00Speaker 3: extreme a grift it was. And all these senators, wives
- 15:04Speaker 3: or head of NGOs which are getting billions from the
- 15:08Speaker 3: government and all the you know, all the social agendas
- 15:14Speaker 3: that this money was going into DEI and you know,
- 15:19Speaker 3: is insane.
- 15:21Speaker 1: Well, it turns out here's how it works. Well, start
- 15:25Speaker 1: with the basic premise, which is that the federal government
- 15:29Speaker 1: is a big money laundering operation. That's basically the thing
- 15:33Speaker 1: that they figured out how to do. So they created
- 15:34Speaker 1: this constellation of entities that are related to the government
- 15:38Speaker 1: in some way. You know, Let's say you graduate from
- 15:41Speaker 1: Georgetown and you can go be a congressional aid for
- 15:45Speaker 1: a while. Then you hop over to a consultant that
- 15:49Speaker 1: works for government or to a lobbyist, and then you
- 15:53Speaker 1: go to a think tank for a while, and then
- 15:55Speaker 1: you go to an NGO like the ones that are
- 15:57Speaker 1: funded by USAID, and you spend some time overthrowing foreign
- 16:01Speaker 1: governments in other countries. And at each stop you get
- 16:07Speaker 1: a nice salary, you get an impressive title. You do
- 16:12Speaker 1: zero work that benefits society in any way. So it's
- 16:15Speaker 1: basically a series of syndicures. And at the end of
- 16:19Speaker 1: your career, you know, forty years later, you retire and
- 16:23Speaker 1: everybody's impressed with all the titles you had. You made
- 16:25Speaker 1: a ton of money, so you're rich, but you accomplish
- 16:29Speaker 1: nothing for society.
- 16:30Speaker 3: Yeah, zero and yeah, and that actually is worse than nothing.
- 16:34Speaker 1: Oh wait and yeah. And along the way, you kick
- 16:39Speaker 1: back a lot of this money by contributing to political
- 16:43Speaker 1: campaigns of the senators and congressman who funded you in
- 16:46Speaker 1: the first place. So it's a kind of a closed
- 16:49Speaker 1: loop where we create the money out of thin air,
- 16:52Speaker 1: and then we redistribute it via this money laundering operation.
- 16:55Speaker 1: And that is what DOGE is showing us. You know,
- 16:58Speaker 1: all these things that Stacy Abraham's thing. Did you see that?
- 17:01Speaker 3: Oh my god, If she's worth two billion, then you
- 17:05Speaker 3: and I are worth a trillion.
- 17:07Speaker 1: You know that that lady has never done anything. She
- 17:12Speaker 1: she ran in a couple of elections and lost, and
- 17:15Speaker 1: she's written a couple of you know, kind of bodice
- 17:17Speaker 1: ripper romance novels and that's it. But they gave her
- 17:23Speaker 1: two billion dollars, just created out of thin air, because
- 17:28Speaker 1: why not. You know, it's all funny money anyhow, it's
- 17:30Speaker 1: all play money. And now she got caught, so they
- 17:33Speaker 1: took that money away.
- 17:35Speaker 3: Yeah, they Claudewack twenty billion from the What does she
- 17:40Speaker 3: know about the environment?
- 17:41Speaker 1: You know, well, I mean the EPA. Yeah, that twenty
- 17:45Speaker 1: billion from the EPA. They just handed it out to
- 17:47Speaker 1: entities that didn't even exist before they started handing it out.
- 17:50Speaker 1: They just made up a website and then gave that
- 17:54Speaker 1: website billions of dollars with the promise that that website
- 17:59Speaker 1: would spend that money on environmental related things in the
- 18:03Speaker 1: future at some point. But see, with these NGOs, it's
- 18:07Speaker 1: really important to understand how these things work because it
- 18:11Speaker 1: sounds like, you know, you look up their website or
- 18:14Speaker 1: some other explanation of what they do, and it looks
- 18:16Speaker 1: like they're above board charities. What they do is they
- 18:21Speaker 1: take in a bunch of money. They pay the salaries
- 18:24Speaker 1: of people who work for it, and then they pay
- 18:26Speaker 1: out maybe ten percent of what they took in to
- 18:30Speaker 1: the actual beneficiaries, you know, to the people who are
- 18:33Speaker 1: being helped in theory. So it's basically just the jobs
- 18:36Speaker 1: program for people from the political class and the expert class.
- 18:41Speaker 1: So it's someplace where they can sit while their party
- 18:44Speaker 1: is out of power, so they don't broke, they can
- 18:48Speaker 1: still eat while the while the Democrats are out of power.
- 18:52Speaker 1: The republic and you know this is bi bartisan. The
- 18:55Speaker 1: Republicans a bunch of this stuff too, which is which
- 18:57Speaker 1: is why Doge is. You know, it was a dangerous
- 19:01Speaker 1: thing for Elon Musk to do because there are Republicans
- 19:04Speaker 1: as well as Democrats who would love to see him
- 19:07Speaker 1: get a bullet in the head right now, you know,
- 19:09Speaker 1: because he's threatening everybody's grift. Well, it's a bigger Democrat
- 19:13Speaker 1: thing than a Republican thing. So if Doge just shuts
- 19:16Speaker 1: down the whole pipeline, you know says okay from now on,
- 19:19Speaker 1: governments send zero money to NGOs. If they did that,
- 19:26Speaker 1: that would hurt more Democrats than Republicans. So there is
- 19:30Speaker 1: a political angle to it.
- 19:32Speaker 3: It's like us AID used to be an equal opportunity grift.
- 19:37Speaker 3: They were equally stealing from it, but not in these numbers.
- 19:41Speaker 3: You know, the grift was always there, but now it's metastasized,
- 19:46Speaker 3: you know, the vampire squid where they're just stealing so
- 19:49Speaker 3: much that the whole thing's collapsing. So it's going to
- 19:54Speaker 3: be interesting to see. Because Musk is convinced he can
- 19:57Speaker 3: cut a trillion dollars off, I sur I'd be surprised
- 20:01Speaker 3: if he didn't do more than that. But what about
- 20:03Speaker 3: the courts, like the whole agenda, the whole Trump agenda.
- 20:07Speaker 3: These renegade judges are just trying to derail. It's going
- 20:12Speaker 3: to have to go to the Supreme Court. Who knows
- 20:16Speaker 3: about those people, certain members of the court, But you know,
- 20:22Speaker 3: eventually Trump is going to have to say no, mas,
- 20:26Speaker 3: I'm not going to listen to you guys, and then
- 20:29Speaker 3: we are going to have the constitutional crisis.
- 20:32Speaker 1: Yeah. Trump can't say no to the Supreme Court, especially
- 20:37Speaker 1: a conservative Supreme Court. So well, what he's doing now,
- 20:40Speaker 1: he's trying everything you can think of and letting it
- 20:43Speaker 1: go to lower courts with the idea of you get
- 20:46Speaker 1: it up to the Supreme Court, and they'll let us
- 20:47Speaker 1: do some of this stuff, you know, because I don't
- 20:49Speaker 1: think they know ahead of time what they're going to
- 20:52Speaker 1: be doing a year from now, but they they are.
- 20:55Speaker 1: They're just throwing everything out, letting the courts decide which
- 21:01Speaker 1: kinds of corruption they go after and the mechanism for
- 21:04Speaker 1: going out, because you know, if you want to send
- 21:08Speaker 1: illegal immigrants back, there is a process. It's just slow
- 21:12Speaker 1: and expensive. And Trump wants to be able just to
- 21:14Speaker 1: round up anybody who looks like they might be dodgy,
- 21:17Speaker 1: put them on a plane, and send them to a Salvador,
- 21:22Speaker 1: to an l Salvador in prison. Now that, yes, see,
- 21:27Speaker 1: he probably can't get away with that because there will
- 21:31Speaker 1: be there will have to be some kind of a process.
- 21:34Speaker 1: But he wants to figure out how much of this
- 21:36Speaker 1: he can get away with and how much of a
- 21:39Speaker 1: process he has to put up with when the time comes.
- 21:44Speaker 1: So that's what I think is going to happen is
- 21:46Speaker 1: a lot of these court cases are going to go
- 21:48Speaker 1: to the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court is going to
- 21:50Speaker 1: kind of pick and choose the ones that they're going
- 21:52Speaker 1: to let Trump do, and then Trump and Doge will
- 21:56Speaker 1: just do those things, you know, and then and they'll
- 21:59Speaker 1: use the things there not allowed to do as campaign
- 22:03Speaker 1: arguments in the midterm elections. You know, they'll say, man, I,
- 22:07Speaker 1: you know, we got a lot done, but we could
- 22:08Speaker 1: get so much more done if you just help us
- 22:11Speaker 1: replace all these bad judges with good judges. You know,
- 22:14Speaker 1: that could be another thing they run on in the
- 22:17Speaker 1: congressional elections in the midterms.
- 22:19Speaker 3: So it's going to be interesting, I think, to the.
- 22:22Speaker 1: Extent that there's a plan, that's what the plan is,
- 22:25Speaker 1: it's definitely going to be interesting to see how this goes.
- 22:29Speaker 3: I mean, the process for deporting aliens is so unwieldy,
- 22:36Speaker 3: you know, this due process thing which they there is
- 22:40Speaker 3: no reading of the or proper interpretation the Constitution that
- 22:46Speaker 3: says these illegal aliens, especially criminal ones, have the right
- 22:50Speaker 3: to stay here.
- 22:51Speaker 1: It's just not that's actually question. It'll be interesting to
- 22:55Speaker 1: see this question be answered, which is does somebody who's
- 22:59Speaker 1: here illegals have the protection of the Bill of Rights, Like,
- 23:03Speaker 1: do they actually have rights here or can they just
- 23:06Speaker 1: be picked up off the street flown to some other country.
- 23:10Speaker 1: And some of the courts right now sounds like they're
- 23:13Speaker 1: saying yes, they have a rate to some kind of
- 23:16Speaker 1: due process, and then that's going to go to the
- 23:19Speaker 1: Supreme Court. And the Supreme Court is six to three
- 23:26Speaker 1: conservative in theory, but John Roberts is not necessarily conservative
- 23:33Speaker 1: in practice, and that brings it to five to four.
- 23:37Speaker 1: And then what's the woman with the high voice, the
- 23:41Speaker 1: conservative Barret a Cony Barrett. Yeah, she's she can be
- 23:50Speaker 1: kind of a swing vote too. So none of this
- 23:52Speaker 1: is guaranteed. But you know, when you start with a
- 23:55Speaker 1: six to three quasi conservative majority, some stuff ought to
- 24:00Speaker 1: be possible. You know, Trump should get a win on
- 24:02Speaker 1: some of these things.
- 24:04Speaker 3: The public though, let's not underplay the public's sentiment here.
- 24:11Speaker 3: According to some of these surveys, seventy eighty percent are
- 24:14Speaker 3: in favor of tossing these you know, reprobates that have
- 24:21Speaker 3: come in from all over the world to rape steel
- 24:26Speaker 3: and pillage. You know, seventy eighty percent. It's the Supreme
- 24:31Speaker 3: Court is going to have a really hard time ignoring
- 24:34Speaker 3: the public's will here.
- 24:36Speaker 1: Well, see, you don't want the Supreme Court to be
- 24:39Speaker 1: watching polls though, right. You want them to make as
- 24:43Speaker 1: objective as possible a judgment based on the Constitution, because
- 24:48Speaker 1: once they start doing what's popular and then it goes
- 24:51Speaker 1: really badly for conservatives and a lot of issues too.
- 24:54Speaker 3: You know, but we'll see, FDR. You know. Yeah, well,
- 25:00Speaker 3: I mean this resisted and eventually they gave in.
- 25:04Speaker 1: So yeah, well, I mean after we are tried to
- 25:07Speaker 1: stack the court too, which he failed at. You know,
- 25:09Speaker 1: he tried to add a whole bunch of new justices,
- 25:12Speaker 1: which is that's liable to be a platform planning for
- 25:16Speaker 1: the Democrats in the next election. I mean, if the
- 25:19Speaker 1: Supreme Court rules for Trump on a lot of these issues,
- 25:23Speaker 1: then the Democrats will run on a program of stacking
- 25:26Speaker 1: the court too. You know, we're going to have three
- 25:28Speaker 1: more justices next time where we have a president. People
- 25:33Speaker 1: will like that. I mean, that's popular with thirty percent
- 25:35Speaker 1: of the population, so sure, we'll see. I mean, things
- 25:39Speaker 1: like that will be argued. It's a horrible idea. I mean,
- 25:42Speaker 1: if everybody who takes power, every party just kind of
- 25:46Speaker 1: redesigns the Supreme Court to reflect their values, and then
- 25:50Speaker 1: the next party does the same thing that that's a nightmare.
- 25:53Speaker 1: So we'll see.
- 25:54Speaker 3: Man, you have one hundred judges, have one hundred judges
- 25:57Speaker 3: on the Supreme Court. They won't be able to agree
- 25:59Speaker 3: on any to.
- 26:01Speaker 1: Be like like elected office.
- 26:03Speaker 3: Yeah, nine is optimal because other lower courts have a
- 26:07Speaker 3: lot more judges, lower appellate courts and especially the circuit courts,
- 26:13Speaker 3: and it gets very difficult for them to achieve a
- 26:16Speaker 3: consensus about anything. So this is going to be really
- 26:21Speaker 3: fascinating to watch. They're going to have to give in,
- 26:25Speaker 3: i believe, to most of Trump's program here. Certainly they
- 26:30Speaker 3: can't justify. You know, we have this Impoundment Act where
- 26:34Speaker 3: Congress basically took the purse strings away from the president
- 26:39Speaker 3: back when Nixon was in the process of being impeached.
- 26:43Speaker 3: They're going to have to walk that back because you
- 26:46Speaker 3: can't say, like if Congress says we're going to build
- 26:50Speaker 3: a giant pit in the middle of the you know, Colorado,
- 26:56Speaker 3: and then we're going to take as much cash as
- 26:58Speaker 3: we possibly can, throw it in that pit and light
- 27:02Speaker 3: it on fire, you know, at some point the court
- 27:06Speaker 3: cannot allow this.
- 27:08Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, this is going to be a really
- 27:10Speaker 1: interesting constitutional year where we get to hear some really
- 27:14Speaker 1: high level arguments. I'm looking forward to it because that
- 27:16Speaker 1: stuff is fascinating. You know, does the Constitution allow you
- 27:19Speaker 1: to do this and what is the language and how
- 27:22Speaker 1: do you interpret the language? And what did what did
- 27:25Speaker 1: previous courts say about this? I think that's interesting and
- 27:30Speaker 1: it's going to be fun this time. But but yeah,
- 27:33Speaker 1: the whole Okay, the President is in charge of the
- 27:38Speaker 1: executive branch, but Congress is in charge of what the
- 27:44Speaker 1: executive branch spends money on. Now, you can't have both
- 27:48Speaker 1: of those things be completely true, right, So somehow they're
- 27:51Speaker 1: going to have to sort that out. And like the Okay,
- 27:53Speaker 1: the executive branch is allowed to decide how much these
- 27:58Speaker 1: guys spend and to close down categories of the executive
- 28:03Speaker 1: branch if they want to. You know, you can can
- 28:06Speaker 1: can Trump closed down, for instance, the Education Department because
- 28:11Speaker 1: it's it's within the realm of the executive branch, but
- 28:16Speaker 1: Congress funded it. You know, what's the answer to that
- 28:20Speaker 1: is going to be yeah, yeah, So what does the
- 28:23Speaker 1: Supreme Court say about that? And if it's if it
- 28:25Speaker 1: comes down hard on either side, then that opens the
- 28:28Speaker 1: floodgates for whichever side wins to just go to town
- 28:31Speaker 1: do anything they want to.
- 28:33Speaker 3: All right, So talking about us AID, which isn't really
- 28:38Speaker 3: what it's about, but we had the release of the
- 28:41Speaker 3: Kennedy files, which nobody's gotten through. But there's a couple
- 28:45Speaker 3: of interesting tidbits. But one of the things of interest,
- 28:51Speaker 3: there's a lady named Ruth Payne and she was instrumental.
- 28:57Speaker 3: Without her, the assassination could not have happened. And it's
- 29:01Speaker 3: been speculated that she's Cia. Her her family was like
- 29:06Speaker 3: buddy buddy with the Alan Foster Dulles, and you know,
- 29:11Speaker 3: she was ejected from Nicaragua during the contract whole thing.
- 29:17Speaker 3: You know, it's it's fascinating. So the point is like,
- 29:21Speaker 3: nothing really earth shattering. No smoking guns have come out yet,
- 29:27Speaker 3: but we haven't gotten everything yet either. So but the
- 29:31Speaker 3: fact that they're releasing all this stuff and it's laden
- 29:35Speaker 3: with the agency disinformation too. So I had a discussion
- 29:40Speaker 3: with GROC about it, you know, and I basically convinced
- 29:45Speaker 3: Groc that the company was involved. Rock is now ninety
- 29:49Speaker 3: nine percent sure that the company was involved. Whereas first
- 29:54Speaker 3: it's given me a line of garbage like maybe this
- 29:57Speaker 3: and who knows, and then I press to go down
- 30:00Speaker 3: the list of characters. It was the most fascinating thing
- 30:03Speaker 3: you ever saw, John. It fast sounds fascinating.
- 30:07Speaker 1: I didn't know you could have a conversation that changes
- 30:09Speaker 1: in AI's mind, and then it's grouk out there now
- 30:12Speaker 1: telling this stuff to other people who ask about it,
- 30:15Speaker 1: like this is youerr okay? Then yeah, okay.
- 30:18Speaker 3: So I asked it to rate my knowledge of the
- 30:21Speaker 3: Kennedy assassination. It gave me an eight out of ten
- 30:25Speaker 3: because it said I couldn't quote like frame by frame
- 30:30Speaker 3: from the Suppruder film and that I didn't quote like
- 30:34Speaker 3: the Warren Commission page number reports and stuff, but it
- 30:39Speaker 3: said I knew my stuff.
- 30:41Speaker 1: So okay, two things about this. We know, even without
- 30:46Speaker 1: this new stuff that came out, that LBJ and the
- 30:48Speaker 1: CIA killed Kennedy. We know that, you know, and so
- 30:52Speaker 1: this this is I mean, it's interesting to find out
- 30:57Speaker 1: the documents that that's true, but we know they did it.
- 31:00Speaker 1: The second thing is is Dallas Airport still Dallas Airport?
- 31:05Speaker 3: Yes?
- 31:05Speaker 1: Oh, they need to toast the Dallas name off of everything.
- 31:08Speaker 1: That those people were monsters, The Dallas Brothers were this
- 31:13Speaker 1: nightmarish pair of monsters who somehow got got real power
- 31:20Speaker 1: in the US government. So yeah, okay, what is Reagan
- 31:25Speaker 1: International Airport still an airport?
- 31:28Speaker 3: Yeah? So yeah, that was where they had the crash
- 31:30Speaker 3: that's set and the other one's deep. Well, I think
- 31:33Speaker 3: their symbols.
- 31:34Speaker 1: What about Handaday because I'm just trying to think of
- 31:38Speaker 1: who we need to replace Dallas with on that Dallas
- 31:41Speaker 1: International Airport. Yeah, because if it was if Kennedy doesn't
- 31:45Speaker 1: have an airport anymore, then we should totally make it Kennedy.
- 31:49Speaker 3: Well, he's got an airport in New York.
- 31:51Speaker 1: But yeah, that's right, okay.
- 31:54Speaker 3: Yeah, And I was in Dallas so going to Europe
- 32:00Speaker 3: to see my son, and you know, I was reading
- 32:03Speaker 3: the plaques there. I should have taken some pictures of them.
- 32:06Speaker 3: There's a whole plaque about you know how he was
- 32:09Speaker 3: instrumental in building the airport and all this stuff and
- 32:13Speaker 3: it's a pretty lousy airport.
- 32:16Speaker 1: Who was Dallas us was somehow involved? If Dallas built
- 32:21Speaker 1: an airport, it was just a way to launder money,
- 32:23Speaker 1: to use it to overthrow governments. And murder might be
- 32:26Speaker 1: the other monsters. Yeah, well I think they work together.
- 32:31Speaker 1: I think there's guilt by association there. So both the
- 32:33Speaker 1: Dallas brothers ought to be erased from American history.
- 32:37Speaker 3: It's actually John Fuster Dulles that it was named after,
- 32:42Speaker 3: and that's he was the Secretary of State, right, yeah,
- 32:47Speaker 3: Alan Dallas Cia.
- 32:49Speaker 1: Yeah, he's the one who killed Kennaday.
- 32:51Speaker 3: Yes, So there was a reason why it was named
- 32:55Speaker 3: to commemorate Dallas's legacy and establish Washington, d c. As
- 32:59Speaker 3: a hub for international diplomacy and the commerce. So and
- 33:07Speaker 3: it was built designed by the same guy who did
- 33:11Speaker 3: the TWA terminal the Seagull in Kennedy, which they've kept
- 33:18Speaker 3: kind of it. They turned it into a hotel. But
- 33:21Speaker 3: what's interesting though, is that you got that flowing in
- 33:24Speaker 3: the big windows and the light and everything. But it's
- 33:28Speaker 3: kind of it really needs to be kind of totally
- 33:32Speaker 3: removed and redone. But you know, we'll see what happens.
- 33:35Speaker 3: But yeah, well we're at it, Let's get rid of
- 33:38Speaker 3: the j Edgar Hoover building there for the FBI sends
- 33:42Speaker 3: out the wrong signal.
- 33:43Speaker 1: You know, we need we need a museum of corruption
- 33:47Speaker 1: where we can go and see because I mean, those
- 33:48Speaker 1: are fascinating stories. Jay Egar Hoover deserves a whole wing
- 33:53Speaker 1: of a of a museum of monsters, and so did
- 33:57Speaker 1: the Dallas brothers. And you know that would be a
- 33:59Speaker 1: fat that be one of the great tourist attractions of
- 34:03Speaker 1: the world because people would come from everywhere love it,
- 34:07Speaker 1: your have their opinion of the United States validated by,
- 34:11Speaker 1: you know, seeing what all these monsters were up to.
- 34:14Speaker 3: We could set up an NGO to do this too.
- 34:17Speaker 1: Oh and funds some money. Yeah, fund it with money
- 34:20Speaker 1: made up by the Fed. Yeah.
- 34:23Speaker 3: You know they have the Mob Museum in Vegas, so
- 34:27Speaker 3: why not the Corrupt Politician Museum in DC.
- 34:30Speaker 1: It's just success. I mean Elon Musk and Cash Patel
- 34:37Speaker 1: would probably want to do something like that. You know,
- 34:40Speaker 1: they ever sat around and talked about it. They would
- 34:42Speaker 1: come up with a plan.
- 34:43Speaker 3: And we got so much empty office space now in DC.
- 34:48Speaker 3: I think maybe we take the USA Building and make
- 34:51Speaker 3: that into the Smithsonian of Corruption, Right, I like it.
- 34:56Speaker 3: I like I think we're for.
- 34:57Speaker 1: The the FBA, FBI headquarters one or the other, or
- 35:02Speaker 1: they could be branches of the Yeah.
- 35:04Speaker 3: Well, the combination of corruption and deep state.
- 35:08Speaker 1: You know, yes, yeah, this is must You know that
- 35:13Speaker 1: that is a campaign plank right there. Trump. Well Trump's
- 35:18Speaker 1: not running again, but whoever runs next. If they say, hey,
- 35:20Speaker 1: that's we're going to build this museum and put all
- 35:22Speaker 1: their crazy monsters and yeah, they could win a lot
- 35:26Speaker 1: of boats with that, I.
- 35:27Speaker 3: Got a better idea. How about if we stuck you
- 35:30Speaker 3: and I start a GoFundMe campaign. What do you think
- 35:35Speaker 3: you up for it?
- 35:38Speaker 1: I think that would be worth millions of dollars And
- 35:42Speaker 1: then we would get assassinated, so we wouldn't get a
- 35:45Speaker 1: chance to spend the money. That would be the problem.
- 35:47Speaker 3: But I have a great idea. As we're building museum,
- 35:51Speaker 3: we pay out kickbacks to everybody. We make it an
- 35:55Speaker 3: exercising corruption to build the Museum of Corruption. Yeah, just
- 35:59Speaker 3: say we're going to do it.
- 36:00Speaker 1: We would tell everybody that yeah, okay, yeah, and we're
- 36:02Speaker 1: going to bribe the congressman there you okay, and we'll
- 36:06Speaker 1: go back.
- 36:06Speaker 3: I think, you know, we should go back in history
- 36:09Speaker 3: and find the most corrupt people like Nero and how
- 36:13Speaker 3: they stole and we could just go back and it.
- 36:16Speaker 3: You know this, I know it might have to take
- 36:19Speaker 3: several blocks sean to really honor it fairly.
- 36:24Speaker 1: Because just I mean just the US would be a
- 36:26Speaker 1: city block, and if we if we went through the
- 36:29Speaker 1: whole world, I mean that that would be a tourist
- 36:33Speaker 1: attraction for the ages there. I mean it would it
- 36:35Speaker 1: would generate billions of revenue every year.
- 36:38Speaker 3: So if we could sell gold cords for people for
- 36:43Speaker 3: five million bucks to become a citizen, that's kind of brilliant,
- 36:47Speaker 3: you know, because that's just that'll bring in a trillion
- 36:49Speaker 3: dollars overnight. You just got to sell two hundred thousand
- 36:52Speaker 3: of them.
- 36:53Speaker 1: I saw a headline that said they were selling pretty well. Yeah,
- 36:56Speaker 1: did you see that in thousand? His? Uh? Okay? Because
- 37:02Speaker 1: here's how I think I was a super rich guy
- 37:05Speaker 1: in China or Russia or Brazil or someplace. I would
- 37:08Speaker 1: I would give my college graduate kid a card like
- 37:13Speaker 1: that as a graduation present because boom, you have. You're
- 37:16Speaker 1: a dual citizen, will And I thought that would work
- 37:20Speaker 1: right there.
- 37:21Speaker 3: I'll tell you a little story here in Jupiter, Florida.
- 37:25Speaker 3: You've been you've been there. There is a development and
- 37:30Speaker 3: it was put together by some maybe not the most
- 37:33Speaker 3: reputable people, and they couldn't get financing. It was after
- 37:37Speaker 3: the global financial collapse. So they went to d C
- 37:42Speaker 3: and they got the EB five law changed because it
- 37:45Speaker 3: didn't used to apply to real estate, which said if
- 37:49Speaker 3: you put half a million bucks into a business and
- 37:52Speaker 3: employed X number of people, you could get a green card.
- 37:56Speaker 3: And they did this with two hundred investors for five
- 38:00Speaker 3: five hundred grand each all right, which comes out to
- 38:03Speaker 3: one hundred million. The project has never made any money
- 38:07Speaker 3: because they made their money selling green cards, and this
- 38:11Speaker 3: became a way of life for the government. So this
- 38:13Speaker 3: is just an extension of that getting more money than
- 38:17Speaker 3: it's worth. And you're some oligarch in Russia, or you're
- 38:20Speaker 3: some guy in China who's stolen billions and you need
- 38:27Speaker 3: your you need your bug app plan, right, you need
- 38:30Speaker 3: your escape plan. You send your wife and kids there,
- 38:33Speaker 3: which is what they're doing anyway. And the US citizenship
- 38:37Speaker 3: really takes on a whole new meaning.
- 38:40Speaker 1: It becomes a brand man because you know exactly what
- 38:44Speaker 1: you're getting when you buy that gold card. Whereas you
- 38:47Speaker 1: know there are lots of invests for citizenship plans. It
- 38:51Speaker 1: is like a one point five million one that gets
- 38:53Speaker 1: you into the EU, but they don't have brand names.
- 38:57Speaker 1: You know, you're just like, hey, we've got to call
- 38:59Speaker 1: up Cyprus and see how that thing works. But with
- 39:02Speaker 1: the US, it's like, I just want a gold card.
- 39:04Speaker 1: You know, there's somebody you call. So there's a lot
- 39:06Speaker 1: gesus for branding. Yeah he's good at branding. Yeah, it's
- 39:10Speaker 1: his genius.
- 39:11Speaker 3: I mean, you know, they pay him all that money
- 39:14Speaker 3: to uh, you know, put his name on buildings or
- 39:18Speaker 3: they used to millions and millions of dollars. So, you know,
- 39:22Speaker 3: the Trump gold card, I think it's got the right cachet.
- 39:25Speaker 3: They supposedly have sold up ten thousand of them, which
- 39:28Speaker 3: is like five hundred million bucks. Yeah, fifty billion, fifty billion. Yeah.
- 39:34Speaker 1: See that you make an the deficit when you do
- 39:38Speaker 1: something like that, Like if they can knock up one
- 39:40Speaker 1: hundred billion dollars a year off of the deficit, that's
- 39:44Speaker 1: that's a noticeable difference.
- 39:45Speaker 3: You know. The way you do it, though, is it's
- 39:49Speaker 3: a limited time offer. We're only selling x amount. This
- 39:53Speaker 3: is the genius scarcity. If you don't get in now,
- 39:56Speaker 3: we don't know if you're ever going to get in.
- 39:58Speaker 3: And then of course you do it next year too,
- 40:00Speaker 3: because it's too good a grift to let go. And
- 40:03Speaker 3: you add in some tariff money and you know, pretty soon,
- 40:08Speaker 3: you know, I have a theory, John, we'll just touch
- 40:11Speaker 3: it briefly and we'll talk more about it next. I
- 40:13Speaker 3: wrote an article about it. The US Strategic Crypto Reserve. Okay,
- 40:19Speaker 3: they took two hundred thousand some odd coins from russ Albrick.
- 40:25Speaker 3: They might have taken another several hundred thousand. Maybe they
- 40:30Speaker 3: are holding a million bitcoin, all right, so right now
- 40:35Speaker 3: that they say it's worth twenty billion. But if you know, Trump,
- 40:41Speaker 3: the master marketer, gets everybody convinced that this thing is
- 40:45Speaker 3: going to the moon, and it goes up another thousandfold thousand,
- 40:50Speaker 3: you know times, which we saw it do, so you
- 40:55Speaker 3: could create something out of nothing. Basically, this crypto has
- 40:58Speaker 3: no value, but because everybody's behind it, all of a
- 41:02Speaker 3: sudden and it can't make any more, it increases to
- 41:07Speaker 3: ten million a coin. And then you say to all
- 41:10Speaker 3: the bondholders, hey, we're not in the bond issuing paying
- 41:14Speaker 3: business anymore, but here's some crypto for you, and you're
- 41:20Speaker 3: getting If you take it now, you'll get one hundred
- 41:23Speaker 3: and ten percent, but if you take it later, you'll
- 41:25Speaker 3: only get ninety percent. Voila, our debt is paid off.
- 41:30Speaker 3: Maybe they'll pay it out in Trump coin and Malania
- 41:33Speaker 3: coin too. Well, that would be.
- 41:38Speaker 1: There would be chapters in future history books called the
- 41:41Speaker 1: Great Pump and Dump Great US Pump and Dump, because well,
- 41:45Speaker 1: the dump would be brutal if they did that, though, right,
- 41:48Speaker 1: bills if you're under sucking ten trillion dollars out of somewhere.
- 41:52Speaker 3: Yeah, but you do it in such a way that
- 41:57Speaker 3: you know you're going to retire it over a set
- 42:00Speaker 3: period of time ten years, right, And you know everybody
- 42:07Speaker 3: can elect ten percent. They can elect the first ten
- 42:11Speaker 3: percent that says yes, and then you say, oh, we
- 42:13Speaker 3: got such an overwhelming response, let's do thirty.
- 42:16Speaker 1: Right.
- 42:17Speaker 3: And then this I'm telling you John, It's like there's
- 42:20Speaker 3: no other way that they can really ever pay this
- 42:23Speaker 3: off except to create something that has no value and
- 42:26Speaker 3: make it seem like it has infinite value and then
- 42:30Speaker 3: use that to pay it off. I mean, it reminds
- 42:34Speaker 3: me of an algebra question, which of course I was
- 42:37Speaker 3: lousy at math and I never knew. But two companies
- 42:42Speaker 3: want to go to this hotel and they have infinite
- 42:46Speaker 3: numbers of salespeople they're going to have a convention there,
- 42:49Speaker 3: and the hotel has an infinite number of rooms. How
- 42:55Speaker 3: do you fit those two companies into it? Because you
- 42:59Speaker 3: know it's infinite demand infinite supply. You know what the
- 43:05Speaker 3: answer was, You alternate every other room. One goes to
- 43:09Speaker 3: company A, one goes to company B. You have an
- 43:12Speaker 3: infinite number of rooms and an infinite number of people.
- 43:15Speaker 3: But that's how you fit them all in.
- 43:17Speaker 1: Okay, well, okay maybe, but I want an honest government
- 43:23Speaker 1: someday I don't want to. I don't like the idea
- 43:26Speaker 1: of that pump and dump, you know, the gold standard
- 43:31Speaker 1: that we might have to go to. I'd rather just
- 43:34Speaker 1: see that happen and be done honestly. But what are
- 43:38Speaker 1: the odds of that?
- 43:39Speaker 3: You know that when you have to value gold at though,
- 43:41Speaker 3: you can't value gold high enough to pay off the debt,
- 43:44Speaker 3: can't be.
- 43:45Speaker 1: Done not to pay off the debt. Well, see that's
- 43:48Speaker 1: the problem is what do we do with the debt
- 43:50Speaker 1: as part of this, because we have to be able
- 43:52Speaker 1: to pay it off somehow, someway. But we lower the
- 43:55Speaker 1: value of the debt by raising the price of goal,
- 43:59Speaker 1: and then you enrage the people who get screwed because
- 44:03Speaker 1: they own the debt. And see, that's the battle of
- 44:06Speaker 1: going to the gold standard, is that you have to
- 44:10Speaker 1: screw over the people who trusted the government, and then
- 44:13Speaker 1: you have to survive their anger afterwards. Storing the palace
- 44:19Speaker 1: a and it's owners of government bonds, right, So it's
- 44:22Speaker 1: high powered people and the people who he was easier,
- 44:25Speaker 1: you definitely storm the government.
- 44:27Speaker 3: Yeah, it's easier to just pay him in crypto, honestly,
- 44:30Speaker 3: and then you still have the gold. Hey, But by
- 44:33Speaker 3: the way, we neglected one of the most important stories,
- 44:36Speaker 3: which I've written a couple of articles about on Financial
- 44:39Speaker 3: Survival Network and don't forget rabinosubstack dot com for John's
- 44:43Speaker 3: latest articles. So they're going to audit the gold reserve.
- 44:52Speaker 3: So this I talked with Craighamke about this. This automatically
- 44:56Speaker 3: means that the gold is there, or something that looks
- 45:00Speaker 3: like gold is there, because they would never open up
- 45:04Speaker 3: the vaults. Because what would happen, John, if if we
- 45:06Speaker 3: get there and the vaults are empty, that.
- 45:11Speaker 1: Would be the highest rated TV show of all time.
- 45:13Speaker 1: That's for feel. Yeah, it could bring Geraldo back just
- 45:18Speaker 1: for the showmanship part of it, you know, and let
- 45:20Speaker 1: him actually find something. But you know, one of the
- 45:24Speaker 1: big stories of the past month has been all the
- 45:26Speaker 1: gold flowing from London to New York. And it could
- 45:31Speaker 1: be that the US is restocking Fort Knox in anticipation
- 45:35Speaker 1: of having to have the thing to audit it. So
- 45:38Speaker 1: I mean that those two stories fit together pretty well.
- 45:42Speaker 1: But you're right, they won't go. I don't think they'll
- 45:44Speaker 1: go do it if their gold isn't there, because that
- 45:47Speaker 1: would cause a major currency crisis here. I think it.
- 45:51Speaker 3: Would blow up the whole economic system, be gone dollars.
- 45:55Speaker 1: You know what it would do, though, was it would
- 45:57Speaker 1: guarantee Trump's reputation Haiti forever, because that's such a brave
- 46:04Speaker 1: thing to do. Like, look, we've been screwing up, but
- 46:06Speaker 1: we're just gonna admit it here. I'm going to be
- 46:09Speaker 1: the one who's going to tell you the truth. And
- 46:11Speaker 1: of course he would probably die the next day, but still,
- 46:15Speaker 1: you know, his reputation, his legacy would be assured. But
- 46:19Speaker 1: but yeah, you know, there's so much interesting stuff happening
- 46:23Speaker 1: right now. We haven't even talked about the Epstein files.
- 46:28Speaker 1: They're promising, yeah, next time.
- 46:31Speaker 3: We got Hey, we've like come a long way here.
- 46:33Speaker 3: We paid off the national debt and we got a
- 46:37Speaker 3: museum of corruption. I mean, I think we've done enough
- 46:39Speaker 3: for this show, John, the Museum of corruption. Man that is,
- 46:46Speaker 3: I'm going to start a gofund me camp.
- 46:47Speaker 1: Don't help my name on that. I don't want to know.
- 46:50Speaker 3: We'll use pseudonyms. You know, I'm good at that all right? Hey,
- 46:55Speaker 3: subs so rabino, substack dot com. Financial Survival Network dot com.
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- 47:03Speaker 3: We'll talk to you in a few weeks.
- 47:05Speaker 1: Thanks, carry see you.
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