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Set 1: A Frumpy Kicker (w/ Matt Hasselbeck) · Stugotz and Company

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  Speaker 1: Woo!
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  Speaker 2: Stu Gatz. Woo!
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  Speaker 3: I got to be honest with you, Bruce, there's a
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  Speaker 3: good chance I'd be high anyway.
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  Speaker 2: Woo!
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  Speaker 3: And I'm wondering how the football weekend was. Were you
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  Speaker 3: able to watch it?
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  Speaker 4: Wow, what happened?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm tired of him.
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  Speaker 2: I'm serious.
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  Speaker 3: How about that? In company.
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  Speaker 5: We are mother shuckers, baby. Woo!
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  Speaker 1: Bruce, does Faison Brandon's name sound like it's on backwards?
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  Speaker 3: No doubt.
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  Speaker 1: It's time to get your.
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  Speaker 1: It's time to get your financial. To get the all boat.
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  Speaker 4: You got nothing right there.
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  Speaker 3: This is not going well.
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  Speaker 2: This is Stu Gotts and Company.
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  Speaker 4: Stu, back to you.
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  Speaker 3: Taylor, put it on the poll. Was Bill's Rams the
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  Speaker 3: best game since Seahawks 49ers? What a ridiculous game. Matt
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  Speaker 3: Hasselbeck going to join us here coming up in about
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  Speaker 3: five to ten minutes here. Looking forward to speaking with him.
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  Speaker 3: What'd you guys make of the game last night? It
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  Speaker 3: was terrific. It was the game of the year. We
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  Speaker 3: will not see a better football game played the remainder
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  Speaker 3: of this season than than the one we saw last night.
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  Speaker 3: I'm declaring it right now.
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  Speaker 1: The only thing ridiculous in that game was Sean McVay
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  Speaker 1: in overtime getting conservative all of a sudden and running
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  Speaker 1: Kyron Williams on a third and five where you set
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  Speaker 1: up a 48-yard field goal for a kicker who had
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  Speaker 1: already missed from 50. Like you have Matthew Stafford. He
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  Speaker 1: just led you on three consecutive touchdown drives. You're taking
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  Speaker 1: the ball out of his hands to trust the weakest
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  Speaker 1: part of your game where Puka Nakua is on a
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  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame trajectory. Devontae Adams is a Hall of Famer.
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  Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford is a Hall of Famer and the reigning
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  Speaker 1: MVP against a defense that couldn't stop a nosebleed. And
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  Speaker 1: Sean McVay after the game, this is exactly what I
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  Speaker 1: was talking about yesterday, where these coaches think they are
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  Speaker 1: so much smarter than everybody. This has to be a
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  Speaker 1: record week of coaches in the NFL saying, you know what,
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  Speaker 1: that's on me. Sean McVay, Nick Sirianni, Dan Quinn, Todd Bowles,
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  Speaker 1: Guess what, guys? We know it's on you.
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  Speaker 3: Right. Coaches have never looked dumber than they have this weekend,
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  Speaker 3: this past weekend. Like they don't know what they're doing.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm with you. You can get closer there. McVay
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  Speaker 3: was very conservative there. But Josh Allen is Josh Allen.
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  Speaker 3: And that's really the story. I mean, you could talk
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  Speaker 3: about McVay and the Rams and all that. Josh Allen
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  Speaker 3: is from another world I mean the guy is out
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  Speaker 3: of his mind what Mikey.
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  Speaker 5: Why are we giving Josh Allen all the props he
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  Speaker 5: had a shot in overtime and he blew it if
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  Speaker 5: not for getting bailed out by by Greg Rousseau for
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  Speaker 5: blocking a kick and that's my only thing about uh
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  Speaker 5: about your uh criticism of Sean McVay you're right he
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  Speaker 5: did get conservative that kick is good if they could
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  Speaker 5: you know block him. If they could block the guys
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  Speaker 5: and not let them block it. It wasn't like he
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  Speaker 5: missed the kick.
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  Speaker 4: It got blocked.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, Josh Allen, uh, did not blow it in overtime.
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  Speaker 3: He had the pass to Shakir. Uh, it was a
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  Speaker 3: great tackle by the Rams. I can't remember the name
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  Speaker 3: of the player. Uh, Looked like it was going to
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  Speaker 3: save the game. It was James Cook who fumbled. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: it wasn't Josh Allen who fumbled in that spot.
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  Speaker 4: Hold on a second. What?
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  Speaker 5: We're going to give Josh Allen all the credit for
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  Speaker 5: throwing a two-yard swing pass to Khalil Shakir and the
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  Speaker 5: Rams forget how to tackle?
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  Speaker 3: Yes. Come on, man.
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  Speaker 5: Listen, Josh Allen could play Superman, and he did that.
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  Speaker 5: He played Superman with his legs a lot yesterday. but
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  Speaker 5: let's not pretend like he was this driving force in that,
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  Speaker 5: in that first drive of overtime, the last drive of overtime,
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  Speaker 5: he ran it with his legs. He barely, he barely
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  Speaker 5: threw the ball and the Rams are just like, wait
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  Speaker 5: a minute, the quarterback can run. Shouldn't we, you know,
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  Speaker 5: stop him.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, that two yard pass you speak of, um, It's
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  Speaker 3: a highly underrated skill. It was like a 10-yard pass, okay,
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  Speaker 3: that he put right in Shakir's chest so Shakir didn't
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  Speaker 3: have to break stride and just kept running and should
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  Speaker 3: have scored on that play. I understand what it is
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  Speaker 3: you're saying. Josh Allen did not blow the game. He's
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  Speaker 3: the reason they won the game. I will also say
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  Speaker 3: this about my kicker. I don't like a frumpy kicker. Stu, yes.
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  Speaker 5: Yes. You don't want me kicking.
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  Speaker 4: You want Taylor kicking, not me.
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  Speaker 3: I want someone who's in shape. We're playing football for
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  Speaker 3: crying out loud.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't want to be the one to say this
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  Speaker 1: because I hate to say this. If you're a fat kicker,
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  Speaker 1: you better be Adam Vinatieri when it comes to field
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  Speaker 1: goals because a fat kicker that isn't good, it just
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  Speaker 1: kind of feels like a gimmick.
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  Speaker 3: You better be Sebastian Janikowski.
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  Speaker 1: And to Mikey A's point, Josh Allen had one completion
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  Speaker 1: of 10-plus air yards with 93% of his passing yards
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  Speaker 1: coming after the catch. Nate Landman is in the Mount
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  Speaker 1: Rushmore of the punch-out. It's Fred Warner, it's Landman, it's
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  Speaker 1: Peanut Tillman, and Shaq Leonard. You know what he's not
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  Speaker 1: good at spying Josh Allen and trying to stop him
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  Speaker 1: in open space where Josh Allen rushes for 121 yards
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  Speaker 1: on 10 attempts. That's largely on the Rams defensive coordinator,
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  Speaker 1: Chris Shula.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you guys surprised at all as the Rams are
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  Speaker 3: driving down for that game tying touchdown in regulation and
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  Speaker 3: the bills had three timeouts left. Were you surprised that
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  Speaker 3: Joe Brady wasn't using those timeouts?
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  Speaker 4: A little bit.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, at the end of regulation, was there anybody
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  Speaker 5: in the world who didn't think when the Bills scored, oh,
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  Speaker 5: a minute 15 with one timeout?
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  Speaker 3: Tie game.
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  Speaker 4: And he didn't even need the timeout.
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  Speaker 3: Tie game.
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  Speaker 5: It was like six plays. Like, we're just going to
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  Speaker 5: do this, this, this, this, overtime. Let's have a good time.
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  Speaker 1: But that drive kind of speaks to, like, the decision
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  Speaker 1: Sean McVay made in overtime, where Stafford in the second
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  Speaker 1: half in overtime is 24 for 31, 284 yards and
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  Speaker 1: two touchdowns. The Rams special team came into week five
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  Speaker 1: ranked 32nd out of 32 teams in DVOA. They've been
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  Speaker 1: 26 or worse in four of the last five seasons.
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  Speaker 1: Like this is going to be this Rams team downfall
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  Speaker 1: if McVay can't get it right. And Mike, you say
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  Speaker 1: if the Rams blocked that kick, I hate to break
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  Speaker 1: it to you. The Rams could have blocked that kick
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  Speaker 1: to perfection. Mavis was not making that kick.
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  Speaker 3: You're saying if no one got a hand up, that
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  Speaker 3: kick's still– because he's frumpy. Just saying, he's frumpy, yes.
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  Speaker 1: That was Shane.
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  Speaker 3: And then you have Joe Brady. Just because he's a
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  Speaker 3: husky lad.
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  Speaker 1: No, and then you have Joe Brady on the other
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  Speaker 1: side where Joe Brady sends out Tyler Bass for the
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  Speaker 1: 45-yard winner on second down at the two-minute warning.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: If Buffalo misses that, we are bashing Joe Brady today
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  Speaker 1: because the Rams have no timeouts. If you sneak it
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  Speaker 1: twice with Josh Allen there, that runs off like a
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  Speaker 1: minute and a half to where if Bass does miss,
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  Speaker 1: you're not giving the Rams the ball back with an
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  Speaker 1: ample amount of time left.
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  Speaker 3: Leave it to this crew. Game of the year, 37-34, Bills-Rams.
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  Speaker 3: Game went to overtime. It went back and forth. The
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  Speaker 3: next morning to talk about a frumpy kicker. Matt Hasselbeck next.
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  Speaker 3: Excited to have our friend Matt Hasselbeck on the show.
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  Speaker 3: He's doing some great work, team impact and some CTE study.
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  Speaker 3: We will talk about that with him in just a
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  Speaker 3: few minutes. But we were just having an argument, Matt.
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  Speaker 3: And so we have to start here. Do you like
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  Speaker 3: a frumpy kicker?
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  Speaker 4: Like strong, you mean?
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  Speaker 3: Like the kicker for the Rams. I'll just tell you.
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  Speaker 4: I'll just tell you. Like, I was a holder for
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  Speaker 4: most of my career because I started with the Green
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  Speaker 4: Bay Packers, and they had this guy named Brett Favor,
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  Speaker 4: who was the starting quarterback. And so my only way
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  Speaker 4: on the field was as Ryan Longwell's holder, you know,
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  Speaker 4: to get fake field goals. And my first two touchdown
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  Speaker 4: passes in the NFL came on fake field goals. That
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  Speaker 4: was my only way in. So I pay attention to
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  Speaker 4: this part of the game. And the Raiders drafted very
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  Speaker 4: high Sebastian Janikowski while I was playing. And I'll just
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  Speaker 4: tell you, that dude was the envy of a lot
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  Speaker 4: of the other kickers. Like a lot of the other
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  Speaker 4: kickers were former soccer players and they played midfield or
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  Speaker 4: like whatever, striker. And they see this dude come out there,
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  Speaker 4: this big Polish dude who like. probably drank vodka instead
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  Speaker 4: of Gatorade, you know, like they were just like this
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  Speaker 4: dude's leg. I can't compete with it, you know?
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  Speaker 3: So I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not, I'm not like opposed to it, you know, but, uh,
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  Speaker 4: He had a leg, man. He did.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's fine when you have a leg, but Nevis
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  Speaker 3: does it. And that's the problem. I mean, he's 50%. Well,
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  Speaker 3: that one got blocked. Yes, I know.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I don't know. Was it going in?
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  Speaker 4: That's a whole nother question.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Taylor swears. Taylor, our executive producer here swears that
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  Speaker 3: if it wasn't blocked, it wasn't going in anyway.
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  Speaker 1: That was shanked.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Matt.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a possibility. Well, listen, I think, you know, I,
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  Speaker 4: I lived in Boston for a while. There's a generation
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  Speaker 4: of great high school quarterbacks coming out of Massachusetts, new England.
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  Speaker 4: I think like the Tom Brady effect.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 4: I think there's probably a Pat McAfee effect where these
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  Speaker 4: college kids are trying to win like a $ 1. 2 million
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  Speaker 4: every weekend. Yes. There's some dudes that can kick that
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  Speaker 4: are just chilling, probably playing hacky sack in between econ
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  Speaker 4: and philosophy. You know, it's, I don't know, like, didn't
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  Speaker 4: Mike Leach find a kicker that way once upon a time?
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: So I know Australia's got it on lockdown for punters
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  Speaker 4: right now, but like, I don't know, maybe there's like
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  Speaker 4: this next generation of, of kickers is, is, is coming
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  Speaker 4: here in America.
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  Speaker 3: I'll get off it in a second, but Longwell is
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  Speaker 3: a guy he's built in a way that would give
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  Speaker 3: me confidence. He's the kind of kicker I want. He
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  Speaker 3: looked athletic. That's all I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: Golfer. Like the, a lot of those guys look like golfers,
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  Speaker 4: like PGA tour or kicker punter. You're not sure.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. No, I mean, there's, it's, I don't know. It's,
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  Speaker 4: it's harder than it looks. I'll tell you that it's
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  Speaker 4: definitely harder than it looks. The other thing is when
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  Speaker 4: you're a kicker, you're swinging at air, like you're swinging,
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  Speaker 4: you're looking at the spot and then all of a
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  Speaker 4: sudden the ball's there and then it might be spinning.
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  Speaker 4: There's a lot that goes into that thing. So, uh, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I can remember one time Ryan Longwell got up, I
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  Speaker 4: got a field goal blocked and I, and it was
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  Speaker 4: low and I felt like I was pushing, I don't
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  Speaker 4: have a ball on me right now, but I felt
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  Speaker 4: like I was pushing down on the ball too hard.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 4: And it all like, almost like I sabotaged it. It
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  Speaker 4: was like really bad. weather and whatever green Bay. And
• 10:01
  Speaker 4: I pushed it down too hard. And he was like, man,
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  Speaker 4: I can't figure out why that ball didn't.
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  Speaker 3: Get up in the air.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm like, I might have an idea.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not going to bring it up right now.
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  Speaker 5: He knew he just wanted you to admit it.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe he's like wicked nice, you know, but like, you know,
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  Speaker 4: it's just one finger on top of the ball. Like,
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  Speaker 4: is it really going to make that much of a difference?
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 3: Whoops. My bad.
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  Speaker 1: Matt, as somebody who got their break in the NFL
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  Speaker 1: as a holder, could you make the argument that the
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars holder should be the MVP right now in MVP conversations?
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: That was huge. That was huge. If you're not sure
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  Speaker 4: what people are talking about, their snapper gets hurt and
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  Speaker 4: you know, they're backup snappers in there, which is like craziness.
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  Speaker 4: Like that's like thrown with your other hand, like having
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  Speaker 4: that guy out there. That was great. That was great.
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  Speaker 4: And I think, you know, to that guy's credit too,
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  Speaker 4: to the new long snapper. Um, and isn't there a
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  Speaker 4: crazy thing right now where like they need a new
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  Speaker 4: long snapper, but they're staying in London. Is that this true?
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: But they got to sign a new long snapper who
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  Speaker 4: happens to have a current passport. Like it's a whole,
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  Speaker 4: you better be ready for like everything. Like literally. Yeah. That's,
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  Speaker 4: that's pretty good.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: But I started, listen, I started holding my sophomore year
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  Speaker 4: in high school. That was my way to get on
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  Speaker 4: the field as a sophomore. And then I had a
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  Speaker 4: bad snap like that, a fire call through a two-point
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  Speaker 4: conversion and got a sticker on my helmet. My high
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  Speaker 4: school did the Ohio State stickers. Yes. And all the
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  Speaker 4: cool kids had a sticker, and I had no stickers.
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  Speaker 3: I'm a sophomore.
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  Speaker 4: So I got one sticker that year from a bad snap. Right.
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  Speaker 4: And I fire called through a two-point conversion. So my
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  Speaker 4: first play in the NFL was against Notre Dame on
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  Speaker 4: a fake field goal as a fake holder on a
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  Speaker 4: play called Leprechaun. Uh, when I got to the Packers,
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  Speaker 4: Sean Landetta was the punter and he's like, I'm not
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  Speaker 4: going to hold. I've been punting so long.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to hold.
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  Speaker 4: And then Doug Peterson left. He was the holder. And
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  Speaker 4: then I was like, Oh, this is my ticket on the,
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  Speaker 4: on the field. So special teams, man, the more you
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  Speaker 4: can do.
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  Speaker 3: I know you had no stickers, but I feel like
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  Speaker 3: you had the last laugh. Is that fair? I mean,
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  Speaker 3: just as opposed to everyone else on that team. You
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  Speaker 3: made it to the NFL, Matt.
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  Speaker 4: Ironically, the guy who was the snapper on that where
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  Speaker 4: I got the fire call, he played in the NFL also.
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  Speaker 4: Greg Camilla, he was Tiki Barber's fullback. He ended up
• 12:24
  Speaker 4: going to Stanford. And then Harvard Business School. Maybe he
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  Speaker 4: got the last laugh.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I'm wondering, I got to tell you one other story.
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  Speaker 4: Sorry to hijack.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no. We love it. You're kidding me.
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  Speaker 3: I'll talk kickers all day and we're.
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  Speaker 4: Playing a team. We're playing a team down in New York.
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  Speaker 4: I want to say it was like Chaminade or one
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  Speaker 4: of those schools. Like we're playing a team down there. And, um,
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  Speaker 4: I think it was them in our snapper was our
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  Speaker 4: running back 34, Greg Camillo. So he snaps the ball,
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  Speaker 4: bad snap, scramble fire drill. I'm looking for The tight end.
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  Speaker 4: I'm looking for the other wing.
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  Speaker 3: No one's there.
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  Speaker 4: I see him standing right there in the middle. Like
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  Speaker 4: no one's covering him because he was the snapper. And
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  Speaker 4: I throw him the ball and the refs are oblivious.
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  Speaker 4: And they're like, yeah, two points. I just scrambled and
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  Speaker 4: I literally threw it to the snapper, but he was
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  Speaker 4: wearing 34. So they're just like, yeah. Feels right. That's
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  Speaker 4: the running back normally.
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  Speaker 3: Don't tell anybody.
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  Speaker 4: Statute of limitations. I feel like we're good now, probably.
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  Speaker 3: They assumed he was good just based on the number?
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  Speaker 4: It was a lot. It was like left, right, found
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  Speaker 4: a guy in the middle.
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  Speaker 3: Like, yeah, all right, sure. It's a heady play by you, Hasselbeck.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it really is.
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  Speaker 4: Truthfully, it was just desperate times call for desperate measures,
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  Speaker 4: but it worked out. Matt, I'm wondering if I feel
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  Speaker 4: like officiating has never worked out in my favor since
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  Speaker 4: that time. So maybe it was sort of my fault
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  Speaker 4: for not like karma. Sorry, guys.
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  Speaker 3: He was a snapper.
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  Speaker 4: Probably should have raised my hand.
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  Speaker 3: It's illegal. That's so good. I'm wondering, as a former
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: quarterback of the NFL, do you watch Josh Allen and
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  Speaker 3: Marvel the way we do when we're watching Josh Allen?
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  Speaker 4: You know, it's funny when I watch him, I'm actually
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  Speaker 4: like yelling at the TV, like, come on, Josh, you're
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  Speaker 4: better than that. That was sloppy. Or that was danger.
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  Speaker 4: Like he misses some dudes sometimes. And you're like, come on,
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  Speaker 4: I know you can make that throw. And it looks
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  Speaker 4: like he's saying the same thing to himself. He'll, he'll
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  Speaker 4: be like, you're like, oh my gosh, he was open.
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  Speaker 3: I had him.
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  Speaker 4: I know I can make that throw. Then there's other
• 14:20
  Speaker 4: times where he's scrambling like end of the game. Your
• 14:23
  Speaker 4: team just fumbled over time and he's running with one
• 14:26
  Speaker 4: hand on the ball. And I'm like, bro, protect the ball.
• 14:29
  Speaker 4: but he, he makes it look easy. He does things
• 14:31
  Speaker 4: that I could never do. Um, he's, I don't know.
• 14:36
  Speaker 4: He's really incredible. He makes the hard things look super simple.
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: Matt, when Drake may plays the way he did in
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: the second half against Buffalo in this past week against
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: the Raiders are, are the Patriots in the conversation for
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: best team in football?
• 14:48
  Speaker 4: No, no, they're not. Uh, they're improving. They're getting better.
• 14:52
  Speaker 4: They're no longer, uh, falling off the cliff, but no, they're,
• 14:56
  Speaker 4: they're certainly not. That's, um, You know, I know Sully
• 14:59
  Speaker 4: Fitzy and Murph up in New England think they are,
• 15:01
  Speaker 4: but no, they're not. I'm happy that Drake got back
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: on track. I'm a huge fan of his. I think
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: he's awesome. He was trying to do too much. He
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: was getting frustrated. He wasn't letting the kicker kick. He
• 15:12
  Speaker 4: wasn't letting their punter punt. And he was kind of
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: giving these like throw it up for grab type situations.
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: He ran into a little bit of that at North
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: Carolina at times where he put the cape on and
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: quite honestly, like did what Josh Allen did early in
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: his career. You know, and that's not going to help
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: you hoist to Lombardi. That's not it. Like, you're going
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: to need to be special. You're going to need to be, like,
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: above the X's and O's a lot. But these, like,
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: no quarterback room that I've ever been in, I played
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: a long time, no one has ever said 50-50 ball. Like,
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: that is a defensive term or a TV term. It's, like,
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: not a thing.
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: Like, you throw a 50-50 ball in an NFL quarterback room,
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: that's a minus. Yeah. That's like a no. That's a
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: D plus.
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: So that's what he was doing.
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: He was, in a sense, throwing it up, hope something
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: good happens.
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: And I think he learned the hard way, and he's
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: back on track. So they're a good team, but no. No,
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: I think that's reserved for like San Fran, Minnesota, Kansas City,
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: probably Buffalo. I would say those are kind of the
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: top teams right now.
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: Throwing it up for grabs is not something we discuss
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: in a quarterback room.
• 16:25
  Speaker 6: I mean, no, that's what you do at recess in
• 16:27
  Speaker 6: middle school. It's called 500 or flyers up. That's, you know,
• 16:33
  Speaker 6: or DB drills. Like I was a ball boy for
• 16:35
  Speaker 6: the Patriots growing up. And at first I was working
• 16:38
  Speaker 6: with the quarterbacks, but then all I was doing was
• 16:40
  Speaker 6: catching balls.
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: And so I was like, all right, well, I'd rather throw.
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: So can I work with the, can I work with
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: the wide receivers and tight ends? And that was kind
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: of fun. Well, then they throw me over with the
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: DBs sometimes and, And that was brutal. It was like,
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: just throw it up, you know, just throw it up high,
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: you know, just throw it up. And like, there's no
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: precision to that. Like, uh, none. It's like, it's like,
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: it's kind of stupid. It feels, it feels like you're, um,
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: you know, like shooter tutor, you know, like when you, uh,
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: When you have a goalie in hockey, like a youth goalie,
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: if goalies are free, or maybe they do this in
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: other sports, like you pay all this money to go
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: to the camp and goalies are free. Like why? Because
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: you're just like, you're there for them to get a rep.
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: That's kind of what 50-50 balls are.
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: What the hell happened to Jaden Daniels and the commanders
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: towards the end of that game on Sunday?
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: I have no idea. Like literally for the, I mean,
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: from the coaching side of it, like I could see
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: maybe there was just like, No one said anything because
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: like we all get it.
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: There could be a lot of traffic on the headset,
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: you know, and so like that's a thing. And so
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: typically when you have a defensive head coach, he's on
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: the defensive side of the headset. Most of the time
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: he has a button. He flips over to the offensive side.
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: I think like CB radio, like walkie talkie.
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: It's not like the clearest. It's not like we're talking now.
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: It's a little like box. you know, we're going to
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: go spider left, uh, mash, you know, kind of sounds
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: like that at times, but like, there can be a
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: lot of people talking. And so sometimes maybe no one's talking.
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: Cause like, yeah, we all understand what's going on.
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: And, um, clearly you would hope that the quarterback would
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: know what was going on. And so to me, I
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: have no excuse that I could even, I've tried to like,
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: in my mind, defend that situation with the quarterback. I
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: can't like, I live across the street from a middle school.
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: I promise you, all those middle school kids that play
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: Madden all day, they know what to do in that situation.
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: So this idea that, well, it starts at the top down.
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: No one told me that we needed to throw the
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: ball away. No one told you? What is this, paint
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: by numbers? You were the rookie of the year. You
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: played at LSU. What are you talking about? I don't know.
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: It's going to haunt them. They're there. It's going to
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: be like stick in their brain their whole career. And
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: and I feel like I'm throwing rocks here because, you know,
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: because I am. I also I also don't live in
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: a glass house.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: Like I've screwed up a situation like this. Me and
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: Sean Alexander, two of the highest paid players on the Seahawks.
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: We're playing a game down in Arizona and we have
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: a basically a check with me. It's a run or
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: a pass. And it's loud, fine, whatever. And game's over.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: We just need to run the ball. Well, I say,
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: let it roll instead of leave it on or something
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: like that. And Sean gets confused. And it's my fault.
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: And I go to hand it off. And he thinks
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: it's a play action. And the ball's on the ground.
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: And then we're in a dome in Arizona. They kick
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: a field goal the next play. It's like, what? Whose
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: fault is that?
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Mine.
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: Can you understand how it happened? Yeah, you could explain it.
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: But it's my fault. And his fault, but my fault. Really.
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: And I still remember it. This will be that for them.
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: This will be like, man, we screwed that up so bad.
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: It's embarrassing, is what it is. It's embarrassing. And they're
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: not alone this week. There was some bad ball, situationally.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: Taylor thinks that every team should have a Madden coordinator
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: on the sidelines. What do you think?
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: Listen, I joke with people about this, but there are people,
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: especially people who work in TV, and they know a
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: lot about situational football. It's literally their job to watch TV.
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: They also know when to throw the challenge flag. The
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: guy who's the producer of College Game Day right now,
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: his name is Matt Garrett. I think an NFL team
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: should hire him. this dude knows exactly how many cameras
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: are in the stadium. If there's a pylon cam, if
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: there's a high end zone away, if camera seven's over here,
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: like all the stuff, like he would say like, Oh,
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: primetime game, throw the challenge flag. Uh, Oh, one o'clock
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: game in Jacksonville. Like, no, don't challenge it. There's not
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: enough cameras for that one. Like it just, I actually
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: think you're onto something. And, um, teams do hire people
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: for that. Like they usually hire someone from like the
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: league office or a former referee or retired coach, but
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: no outside the box. I think the, the dude who
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: wears a Jersey and, and has a couple of Bud
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: lights and sits on his couch and watch his red
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: zone channel. Like maybe that might be your best bet.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Matt for as bad as that giants commanders game ending was,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: it feels like the NFC East is just as bad.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: What team in the NFC East do you have the
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: most confidence in? Hmm.
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: That's a tough one. It was a tough weekend for them.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: Yes. Well, the Giants got away with one.
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: You know, I would think that Philly and Dallas would
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: be the teams. Probably Dallas, maybe. I mean, I don't know.
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm going with what I expect out of
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: that offense. I expect that offense in Dallas to be better.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: I do think there's a little bit of a recalibration.
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: So you talk about Dallas and Philly. I think there's
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: a little bit of a recalibration for veteran coaches. Coaches
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: have been coaching a long time for end of game
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: situations with the new kickoff rule. So there's two things
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: in kicking right now. The new kickoff rule is very unique.
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: You know, the touchbacks and like, you know, you could,
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: you guys could run it out and all of a
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: sudden your kicker has to kick. There's also this situation
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: with the cable where the NFL doesn't make the kickers
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: kick the balls right out of the bag. Like brand
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: new footballs are hard to throw. They're hard to kick.
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: But if you can break them in, you can rub
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: them down, lather them up, you know, basically think about
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: like breaking a baseball glove. It's night and day or
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: breaking in a hockey goalie glove. It's night and day.
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: And so like these kickers can absolutely bomb end of
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: the game field goals. Like I'm talking 70 yarders in
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: practice are absolutely a thing. You don't see it during
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: the normal first four quarters because if a guy misses,
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: you give the ball back, you know, with great field position.
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: But at the end of the game situation where time's expiring,
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: I think they've got to recalibrate. So Philly got burned
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: with Nick Sirianni in London against Jacksonville, and then Dallas
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: got burned, I think, against Baltimore. So that's just two examples.
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: You kind of have to learn the hard way.
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: What do you make of Eagle fans wanting to fire
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: Nick Sirianni?
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: Bad idea. I think he's really– he takes the bullets
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: in a sense. He's the bad guy. But, you know,
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: in a similar way that I was really annoyed with
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: Jaden Daniels, what happened on the field, and then he
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: didn't really take accountability. He's like, well, it starts top down,
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: but ultimately it's on me. It's like, dude, that was
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: so pathetic. Like, that was weak. Like, either take accountability
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: or don't. I thought Nick Sirianni, who really didn't need
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: to take all the accountability, he was like, that's nobody's
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: fault but mine. That is absolutely mine. I just apologize
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: to every guy in the locker room. They played their
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: butts off. They gave it everything they had. I made
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: a bad decision that cost us the game and I'm
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: sick about it. He was like in near tears about it. Like,
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: that's how you do it. He lost the game, but
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: won the presser and won the team. And that's why
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: guys love a guy like that. And so, I don't know,
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: even if it's not this year, like it could be
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: two years from now when you make a mistake, you're like,
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: you know what? He set the example. I'm going to take,
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: I'm going to look in the mirror and I'm going to,
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: I'm going to face it at the podium. in a
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: closed player's holding meeting, like whatever it is. So no,
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: I think I, he's, he's a good coach.
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Matt, there's no better time right now to be a
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: college athlete with NIL, but if I had to pick
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: a second era I would want to be a college athlete,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: it would be in the 90s just because of the
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: video games you guys had. What would you say is
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: your Mount Rushmore video games?
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: Oh, wow.
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: Sega Genesis, NHL, 95. There's some arguing there, but Sega Genesis, NHL,
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: 95 is super strong. Obviously, like Madden, I don't know
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: the year, probably 97 would be my favorite year, but Uh, um, um,
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: I could be talked into the year on that one.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: And then bill Walsh college football was pretty good, but
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: I left out, uh, super tech mobile, uh, on, on
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: the Nintendo system. So, um, we had this thing in my,
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: when I, my college experience, we played NHL, 95 manual
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: goalie trades, all the thing, the trade, the draft was
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: the best part. But, um, our rule was whoever won
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: the last game got to pick the music. So I'm
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: from Boston. I did not grow up listening to country music. Well,
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: there was a dude from Maryland that absolutely was the
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: best NHL 95 player. And another one of our roommates
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: also from Maryland, he was our second best player. So
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: basically all we've ever listened to was country music. And
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: after a while, the whole eight man became like country
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: music fans because we were just playing hours and hours
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: of NHL 95 and, uh, and, and winning 25% of
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: the time. But yes, that's a good answer.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: Um, before we get to, um, team impact and we
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: got a game for you here, uh, is San Francisco.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: And I'm sorry to ask you this because it was
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: a big win, uh, at Seattle, but it's San Francisco,
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: the best team in the NFL. Yeah, they are right now.
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: I think that week eight is when you get the, like,
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: what are we in week five? We just had week five.
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: I think week eight's the best determinator of kind of
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: who really stinks and then who's really for real. I
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: think that's probably where I wouldn't overreact until week eight.
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: You know, Bill Belichick famously said, real football starts after Thanksgiving.
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: I don't know if that's true, but if you look
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: at week eight with all the metrics, that's when you
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: can think about booking your flights to L.A., I guess
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: it is, or think about, you know, who's going to
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: have the first pick overall. But, yeah, right now, I
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: think the 49ers are the best team. I actually thought
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: they were the best team going into the Seattle game,
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: and they're not even at full strength. They don't have Juszczyk.
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: I think Bosa's banged up. They played– without one of
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: their best linebackers. Cause he got suspended during the game. Uh,
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: and that was on the road. I think Brock Purdy's
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: a candidate for MVP right now. It's early. I know, but, uh,
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: he's exceptional way underrated. So, um, yeah, I think they're
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: for real.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: Uh, tell us about team impact and what you're doing there, man.
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Team impact is an incredible organization. It's, uh, paired
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: up in the NCAA world. It pairs kids with disease
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: or disability with athletic teams. Um, UConn basketball, Boston College lacrosse,
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: UCLA football, like you name it. And it gives something
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: to these kids with disease and disability, something that medicine
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: could never give them. It also, I've seen this firsthand,
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: gives these athletes who in this NIL world, in this
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: transfer portal world, it's all about you. It gives them
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: a perspective of something that is so much bigger than
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: what they're going through. And it's not all about them.
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: So It's an incredible organization. teamimpact.org is the website. If
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: your college or university isn't a part of it, they
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: absolutely should be. They have fun events. They've got one
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: in Boston, a sneaker ball. They've got one in Chicago
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: in November. They've got one out in LA. It's a
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: great organization. And it's kind of like those things that
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: you do, not to rip on other organizations, but where
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: they come in for a day and it's a photo
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: shoot and it's an experience. These kids get drafted to
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: the team. They sign a two-year commitment at that school,
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: which is more than I can say for a lot
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: of athletes who are one and done. So it's really special.
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: It's special for everybody.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: That is great work, man. Taylor, let's see if we
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: can connect him with North Carolina. He needs our help.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: Or maybe Northwestern. I got you at Northwestern, okay?
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: Okay, great.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: And we're going to play a game, one table in
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: just a second. CTE study, what's happening there?
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: So CTE study, I'm part of this study. Um, it basically,
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: if you're 50 years old or older and you played
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: college football or more, but just had to play college football,
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: there's a two day study that you can sign up
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: for that is, uh, it's really kind of paying it forward.
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: So basically, uh, you spend two days at a, you know,
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: neurocog thing. You do a brain MRI, you do a
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: PET scan, they take blood, you do some neurocog testing,
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: similar to like a concussion test. And they, um, Try
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: to get a baseline. Basically, it's this. There's so much
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: bad publicity out there with head trauma in certain sports,
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: football being one. But my feeling is they're only studying
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: the bad brains. They're only studying the people that are symptomatic.
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: So to get a better medical kind of look at everything,
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: you need to study more people, more brains, people that
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: are asymptomatic, people like me that I don't have anything
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: that I'm complaining about.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: But who knows?
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: I played 18 years in the NFL. I might have
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: some issues. So whatever the data says, the data says.
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: But we're looking for volunteers for that. It's diagnosecte.org is
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: the website. And it's kind of fun because for you,
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: it kind of tells you where you're at. So quite honestly,
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: for me, in my situation, I turned 50 and I
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: was expecting sort of bad results. And I get great results.
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: And so Um, I don't know. It was like, it
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: was almost comforting in a way, but that wasn't my,
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: my intention. My intention was to kind of, um, I
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: don't know, lend my help to science, especially the guys
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: that are dealing with stuff, probably the guys that protected
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: me more than, um, than the, you know, they took
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: more hits than I did. So that was, that was
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: really my motivation for signing up for it in the
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: first spot.
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: I actually have a friend who signed up for it
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: and he's very appreciative for the work you're doing. So I,
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: I I want to pass along that.
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: Well, the cool thing about it is that they, they
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: hope that they can diagnose CT while you're still alive
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: right now. You can only diagnose it when you're after
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: you're dead. And the other thing is they're hoping we
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: can differentiate CTE from other forms of dementia, like Alzheimer's
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: or things like that. And that would be a game changer,
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: not just for athletes, but for anybody who's, who's, uh,
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: you know, had a loved one or something like that,
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: that's suffered from Alzheimer's or something. It's a terrible disease.
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: So the more that we can learn, uh, you know,
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: the quicker we can find cures.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: All right, let's get to the game here. Taylor, give
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: me the imaging.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: There's one table left at the hottest spot in town,
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: and everybody wants it. Who's getting it, and who's getting
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: left outside? Greatness gets seated. Everyone else waits. This is
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: one table.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: All right, so we're at Hasselback Steakhouse in Seattle, okay,
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: and there's one table remaining. and two people are walking
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: in at the same time. There's one chair. That's it, Matt.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: You have to decide who gets the table, who gets
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: the seat. Taylor, take it away here. Why isn't there
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: a Hasselback Steakhouse in Seattle, by the way?
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: I'll tell you why, because there's El Gaucho, which is
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: a cowboy. But it's really seafood, but you can get
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: an awesome steak there, too. So if you're ever in Seattle,
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: El Gaucho is your spot.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: All right, here we go.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: So, Matt, Steve Largent walks in. Jackson Smith and Jigba
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: walks in. Who gets the table?
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: Wow. You know what? I'm going to say JSN because
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: I see Mr. Largent all the time. He's like, we're
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: like this, man. I got one autographed helmet in my
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: office here, actually, too. But Steve Largent's one of them.
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: That's my guy. I love him. But I see him
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: all the time. We're buddies.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know. But you're telling your guy, get out
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: of your restaurant. I mean. I mean, we could do lunch.
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: We'll go for a power walk together. You know, we're good.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: All right. Mikey.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: By the way, all-time best play ever is Steve Largent's
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: hit on Mike Harden with the Broncos. NFL films it
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: or YouTube it. It's a sick story. Amazing play.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: We'll check it out. Go ahead, Mikey.
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: Walter Jones walks in and Cortez Kennedy walks in.
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: Well, Tez is my guy. Rest in peace. He was amazing.
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: And Walter Jones does this really cool thing on September
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: 6th every year, 9-6. So Tez was number 96, where
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: you check in on your friends and check in on
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: your teammates. And so I never was a teammate of Cortez's.
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: but he was always in our locker room. He was
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: always in the equipment room during lunch and he'd be
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: a guy you'd sit down with. And, uh, you know,
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: it felt like a teammate and we were never teammates.
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: It's very rare that quarterbacks get along with D linemen,
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: but he was, uh, he was special like that. And
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: so I think Walt would be mad at me if
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: I didn't pick Tez, but, uh, but Walter Jones has
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: the best laugh, uh, on the planet. It's kind of like, uh,
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: was that movie with Sherman clump, you know, Eddie Murphy,
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: you know, like he's got like that kind of a laugh.
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: It's an amazing laugh. It's very infectious.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Russell Wilson walks in. Sam Darnold walks in who gets
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: the table.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: No Sierra. Wow.
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: I think I'm going Sam Darnold because I feel like
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: there's a couple little nuggets that I would like. I
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: feel like veteran quarterbacks are guys that had made mistakes,
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: kind of like leaned into me and said some things.
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: And I see Sam right now, And I just think
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: he's on the edge of playing great football. And, like,
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: you know, I just watched this game last week. I mean,
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: the ball was on the ground too much as an offense.
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: We took way too many sacks. I feel like there's
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: some little Mike Holmgren nuggets that I would just love to, like,
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: lean into Sam on. And, you know, hopefully they get
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: back to, you know, potentially being the one seed in
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: the NFC.
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: All right. I have one. We'll get you out of here.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: Marshawn Lynch walks in. Richard Sherman walks in. Well, uh,
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: this is easy for him. Tough one. Oh, wow. Tough one.
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: I don't, I don't drug test anymore, so I don't
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: have to worry about secondhand smoke. I'm just thinking out
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: loud here.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: I mean, stop saying that about both those guys.
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: I'm going to, I'm going to, no, I was really
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: referring to Marshawn. I don't know about Sherm. Marshawn, I
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: do know about. I'm going to probably have dinner with Sherm.
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: I'm probably have dinner with Sherm. He's, uh, I feel
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: like it's a more predictable dinner. I love Marshawn, but, uh,
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: But who knows? I don't know where we're going. I
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: don't know how dinner will go. But I love both
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: those guys. But I'll take Sherm to dinner.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: All right. I lied to you, Mikey. He has one more.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: Go ahead, Mikey.
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: Sean Alexander walks in.
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: Ken Griffey Jr.
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: Walks in. Ooh. Ooh, man. I'll probably go Sean Alexander.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: Go Sean Alexander. Here's why. I love Jr. He's super fun.
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: He's an avid photographer now, I think. Uh, Sean has
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: like 13 kids, his wife, Valerie, we call her St. Val. And, uh,
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: we're kind of aligned on some things that we're doing
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: post football. And I would love to maybe talk about
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: those things. Also get an update on his children, which, uh,
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: that's a lot of kids. My mom was one of 12,
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: but I, it might even be 14. I'm not even
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: sure the number at this point, but he makes Phillip
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: rivers look like the rest of us. So, uh, I'll,
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: I'll sit down with Sean. He needs a night out.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: I'll squeeze it. One more Sean camp, Gary Payton.
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: I think the glove, you know, the glove and Dana
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: Barrows were my two favorite players when I was in Boston.
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: The glove played at Oregon State, I think.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: Is that right?
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: And Dana Barrows went to Zavarian Brothers High School where
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: I went.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: And then Boston College where I went.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: And he was hitting threes before there was a three
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: point line. And I think he scored like 80 points
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: in a game one time. So that was the Supersonics. Ironically,
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: were one of my teams before I ever showed up
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: in Seattle.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: All right, Matt, we appreciate it. Team Impact, check out.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: Give those websites out again, if you don't mind, before
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: you get out of here.
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so teamimpact.org and diagnosecte.org, two very different organizations, but
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: both doing really important work. You know, I can't say enough.
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: Can't say enough.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: All right, keep up the great work. We appreciate your time, man.
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: Always fun. We'll do it again soon. I can't have
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: you on here enough, man. You're fun.
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: This is fun. You guys are fun. I talk too much.
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: I'd like to hear from you guys next time, but
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: this is great. NHL 95, I'm feeling it, you know?
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: The Canadians versus the picture team.
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: Blackhawks probably? I don't know. What, do you have Geek Carbino?
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: I'll take Roenick, and I'll beat you. I'm good.
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: All right. Yeah, unstoppable.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: All right, well, we'll set it up sometime. We'll play
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: a game, you and I.
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: Great, great.
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: See ya.