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Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, April 30 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, April thirty. This is Jack Bars Happy Hour,
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Speaker 1: and now a guy who promises to work hard, don't
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Speaker 1: matter where he's broadcasting from. Jay Pe Then welcome in
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour on April, final day of the month,
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Speaker 1: May tomorrow, Yes, today's Thursday. First of all, if you haven't,
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Speaker 1: you lost track, I think a lot of us might
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Speaker 1: have by this time. And it is the final day
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Speaker 1: of April. Welcome in. J P. Shadwick with you. We've
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Speaker 1: got quite a show today, Jack Jannalist, Jeff Loguman. Coming
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Speaker 1: up shortly, Auburn head coach Gus Melson. We caught up
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Speaker 1: over a zoom call yesterday. It's available on the team website.
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Speaker 1: You'll hear a portion of that coming up in a
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Speaker 1: little while. To discuss Daniel Thomas, the Jaguars safety draft pick,
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Speaker 1: fifth round draft pick this year. Senior writer John Oshan
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Speaker 1: joins us will recap the draft and get into this
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Speaker 1: Andy Dalton business. He was cut by the Bengals today
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Speaker 1: and that's the talk online and on social media is
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Speaker 1: that maybe the Jags could be in consideration. We'll go
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Speaker 1: around the National Football League as well, and we'll hear
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Speaker 1: a preview of next week's visit with Mel Tucker, former
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Speaker 1: Jaguars defensive coordinator now the head coach at Michigan State
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Speaker 1: who just got the job in February. But will delve
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Speaker 1: into la Visca Chenault, his former wide receiver slash offensive
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Speaker 1: weapon type guy at Colorado last year. That's coming up
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Speaker 1: a little bit later in the show. Today, let's go
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Speaker 1: to the phone lines immediately right out of the gate,
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Speaker 1: and he he leads us off this week's Jaguars analyst,
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Speaker 1: Jeff Laguma. Jeff, Good afternoon, j P. It's nice to
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Speaker 1: u leadoff for one. Well, you've always done such a
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Speaker 1: great job as the anchor leg of the show bringing
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Speaker 1: us on home in the right way that you know what,
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Speaker 1: we've got to move it around this week, and and
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Speaker 1: you're gonna you're gonna get on base for us. We're
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Speaker 1: gonna get your over and get you in. How about that? Now?
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Speaker 1: It's good. And I know there's there's plenty to talk about,
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Speaker 1: but the draft having just been completed, and and also
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Speaker 1: many underrafted rookies agree to terms with the Jaguar, So yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be there's gonna be a lot of new
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Speaker 1: faces that are gonna be wearing teal and black when
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Speaker 1: in camp eventually opened. I hope you know that's a lot.
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Speaker 1: That's thirty rookies, eighteen signees after the draft, twelve draft picks,
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Speaker 1: and then who knows in free agency. There's a couple
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Speaker 1: of churning spots as this goes on here, before we
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Speaker 1: get to the draft and the new guys and all that,
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Speaker 1: Let's start off with a big name of the day
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Speaker 1: around the NFL. And it's Andy Dalton, who was cut
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Speaker 1: by the Cincinnati Bengals, and it's on social media. Everybody's
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Speaker 1: like a lot of people are, hey, the Jaggs could
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Speaker 1: be in consideration. Would you dare Jeff signing Andy Dalton? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean I would. I mean for a couple of reasons. One,
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Speaker 1: he has been a uh, a decent starter in the
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Speaker 1: National Football League. He's familiar with your offensive coordinator Gruden
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Speaker 1: and uh and he needs a job. And to be
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Speaker 1: perfectly honest with you, I don't think the Jaguars backup
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Speaker 1: quarterback situation. This is assuming obviously that Minshu is your starter.
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Speaker 1: I don't. I think that dobbs Is is a highly
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Speaker 1: uh you know, bought a backup quarterback in the National
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Speaker 1: Football league. In fact, there are some reports last year
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Speaker 1: when Dobbs was in practice that it wasn't very good.
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Speaker 1: So you know, yeah, I mean, I'm I'm all for
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars going it now. If you asked me this
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Speaker 1: a week ago, I would have said, no, go out
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Speaker 1: and draft you one, because I thought that there was
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Speaker 1: an opportunity to do that early on this draft, and
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars decided not to do that. And I do
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Speaker 1: understand that the Jaguars ended up getting a quarterback late
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Speaker 1: in the draft, but they expect him to be a
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Speaker 1: backup quarterback at some point for the Jaguars this year.
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Speaker 1: For Jake Luton. Is that pronounced correctly, Yeah, Jake Luton Luton?
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Speaker 1: You know? So yeah, I expect him to be more
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Speaker 1: of a developmental type product project anyway, So yeah, I ain't.
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Speaker 1: Dalton should absolutely be on the Jars radar. You got
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Speaker 1: to get through a couple of things before that happened.
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Speaker 1: Number one, Andy Dalton has to realize that there's not
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Speaker 1: another starting opportunity in this league. Number one. And he's
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Speaker 1: also got to realize that the money is not gonna
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Speaker 1: be at seventeen eighteen million a year, you know, so, uh,
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Speaker 1: he's got to realize he's gonna be a backup. And
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Speaker 1: number two, he's got to realize that the pay is
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Speaker 1: not gonna be what it would have been if he
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Speaker 1: had remained under contract with the Cincinnati Bengal. We'll see
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Speaker 1: what happens to Dave Coldwell has up his sleeve with
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Speaker 1: the next couple of days. With that, now that's all
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Speaker 1: said and done, let's go to the results of the
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Speaker 1: NFL Draft. Let's start in the first round. Two picks
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Speaker 1: in the first round, ninth overall, twenty overall. Uh C J.
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Speaker 1: Henderson is the pick at nine, the corner from Florida
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Speaker 1: and defensive end line backer Caleb and chased on from
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Speaker 1: l S. You two defensive players early, and now you
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Speaker 1: have the ability on defense to have potential playmaking types
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Speaker 1: at every level of the defense. Locks. Oh, you hope,
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Speaker 1: you know. And and I really like Jason. I think
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Speaker 1: he's got a great motor and uh, you know, good
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Speaker 1: for him to have the year that he had last year,
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Speaker 1: which was a good, really good year. I don't want
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Speaker 1: to say that a great year, but a really good
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Speaker 1: year coming off of a knee that's impressive. Love his motor,
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Speaker 1: love his intensity, He plays hard, he's got some some
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Speaker 1: pass rush ability, and with the situation within got Way
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Speaker 1: kind of unknown and what's going to happen with that,
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Speaker 1: that makes that a position of need. So I think
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Speaker 1: it's a good fit. Uh supposedly a high character guy,
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Speaker 1: he's got some real nice hips. He can bend it
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Speaker 1: around the edge, and you don't if the Jaguars end
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Speaker 1: up having issues within Gothway or if he's even back
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Speaker 1: in the fold now, Jason gives him I think, an
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Speaker 1: opportunity to be really flexible as a defense to where
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Speaker 1: they can play therefore three principles, but then also what
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Speaker 1: they really wanted to do last year but with the
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Speaker 1: hold out of a Gookway they didn't end up doing it,
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Speaker 1: is to get some of the three four principles on
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Speaker 1: the field and make it more prevalent. Because we saw
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Speaker 1: a little pieces of it last year as a defense,
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Speaker 1: but we never really saw it to where it became
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Speaker 1: a bulk of a game plan. And I think if
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Speaker 1: you have time to prepare, which now we're looking at
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Speaker 1: no all season stuff, you know, but if you can
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Speaker 1: get into camp and have a camp to where you
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Speaker 1: can prepare for that flexibility, I sure would be nice
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Speaker 1: and create a lot of headaches for offensive coordinators. Loves
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Speaker 1: the nuances of the differences of four three, three four.
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Speaker 1: It can be I mean, obviously a linebacker would maybe
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Speaker 1: come up on the ball, but it's really the spacing
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Speaker 1: upfront has a lot to do with it too. It's
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Speaker 1: not just hate JP, to be honest with you, Sometimes
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Speaker 1: when I watched someone sitting there, going is this the
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Speaker 1: three four or is this a four or three? Because
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Speaker 1: so many principles where the three four are used in
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Speaker 1: a four three and vice versa. So, uh, there's not
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Speaker 1: a lot of difference, but uh, it just makes it
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Speaker 1: a little bit more unpredictable, you know, the where you
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Speaker 1: I think your blitz package has become a little bit
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Speaker 1: more varied when you're running a three four and you
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Speaker 1: have that personnel on the field where you've got some
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Speaker 1: guys that can cover, uh that also can rush or cover.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think I think it's nice to have
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Speaker 1: that flexibility. And I like to pick U C. J.
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Speaker 1: Henderson of what I would like to be able to
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Speaker 1: get a little bit farther down in the first round
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Speaker 1: to get him. Yeah, but I mean I probably say
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Speaker 1: that about every guy, and he's fast uh, you know,
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Speaker 1: so I'm looking forward to seeing him in person. When
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Speaker 1: I watched the film, I will tell you I didn't
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Speaker 1: see a whole lot of difference between him, and I
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Speaker 1: said this before the draft, I didn't see a whole
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Speaker 1: lot of difference between him and the quarterback from Ohio
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Speaker 1: State name escaped me Kuda, you know, and people had Okuda.
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Speaker 1: It's like a top five and I'm going, well, and
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Speaker 1: my my saying this, I'm not saying that that Okuda
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Speaker 1: should have been where he is and that Henderson should
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Speaker 1: have been higher. I think Occuda should have been down
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Speaker 1: a little bit because I didn't think there was a
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Speaker 1: that big of a difference between Okuda and Henderson. So
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm glad that the Jaguars got one of the
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Speaker 1: top two corners. That was pretty much the consensus of
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Speaker 1: all the different personnel people around because it's obviously it's
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Speaker 1: a huge position of need for the Jaguars, and uh boy,
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Speaker 1: you've you've had a couple of big subtractions, so adding
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Speaker 1: a little bit to that equation certainly helps. Jeff logging
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Speaker 1: with this Jaguars analyst on Jaguars Happy Hour on this
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Speaker 1: Thursday afternoon, the final day of April. Let's go on
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Speaker 1: to the second round. Leavisco should at junior wide receiver
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Speaker 1: from Colorado, and he was injured a couple of years ago.
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Speaker 1: And you heard Dave called well after the draft say,
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Speaker 1: you know, if this was a year ago, and you know,
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Speaker 1: he might be a first round consideration, high first round,
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Speaker 1: one of the top, if not the top receiver coming out. Um.
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Speaker 1: The question now is can he get back to that form?
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Speaker 1: And the Jaguars took his second round pick on him,
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Speaker 1: so they feel like he can. And it's not just
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Speaker 1: a wide receiver here logs. I caught up with Mel
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Speaker 1: tuckler Mel Tucker earlier today. We'll hear that interview coming
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Speaker 1: up early next week. But the way you can move
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Speaker 1: him around, play him left, play him right, play him
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Speaker 1: in the slot, line him up in the backfield. That
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Speaker 1: was what Colorado did and it worked out pretty well.
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Speaker 1: That's a good weapon to have on offense. Well, he's
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Speaker 1: tough as nails. You know that. That's what I like.
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Speaker 1: And yeah, one of the I think the themes of
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Speaker 1: this draft for the Jaguars as a whole, I think
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Speaker 1: character mattered. I think in in past here sometimes it
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Speaker 1: might have been pushed the side at times for certain
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Speaker 1: guys where there was you know, you could see maybe
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Speaker 1: great value in a guy, but I think characters at
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Speaker 1: a premium. And I think that this is also one
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Speaker 1: of the Biscus strengths is that he's a hier guy.
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Speaker 1: And I'm sure you had a chance to read the
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Speaker 1: letter that he wrote to the general managers around the
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Speaker 1: National Football League, and when a player does essentially it
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Speaker 1: was a letter that he wrote and talked about the
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Speaker 1: injuries that he fought through, talked about where he came from,
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Speaker 1: talked about his upbringing, talked about his parents, the death
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Speaker 1: of his father. I mean, there were all these different
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Speaker 1: things that he wrote in this letter to the NFL
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Speaker 1: general managers and you sit there and you read it
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Speaker 1: and you go wow. I mean, what a powerful thing
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Speaker 1: to have done. And I think it really good. It
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Speaker 1: shows I thought it showed great courage to be able
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Speaker 1: to do something like that, but also showed that he's
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Speaker 1: an accountable person and that's the type of players that
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Speaker 1: you want to have on your football team. And he's
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Speaker 1: a physical presence Jap. I mean, he's big, you know,
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Speaker 1: he's a wide receiver. It's a done there. Two hundred
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Speaker 1: and thirty pounds and he's physical. You know, He's not
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Speaker 1: one of these wide receivers that once he catches it
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Speaker 1: like Marvin Harrison or Reggie Wayne used to when we
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Speaker 1: saw with the Indian that was called the many times
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Speaker 1: that he that he's gonna look for a place to
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Speaker 1: go down. I mean, holy cow, he's different now. He
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Speaker 1: likes to bang and he likes to finish plays. So, uh,
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Speaker 1: from from that standpoint as a defensive player, I like
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Speaker 1: those kind of guys. Lo As you mentioned the character
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Speaker 1: aspect of this thing, and that's been a storyline at
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Speaker 1: the end of the draft that basically all the guys picked,
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Speaker 1: twelve of them have clean backgrounds, are great off the
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Speaker 1: field according to their former coaches and teammates and everything.
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Speaker 1: How quickly and two questions here, I guess we logs
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Speaker 1: how much did this Jaguars locker room need that kind
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Speaker 1: of influx of character guys? And how quickly can you
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Speaker 1: change a locker room in the NFL? You can change
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Speaker 1: it quick now, I mean just cut a few guys,
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Speaker 1: trade a few guys, uh, you know, and then you
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Speaker 1: bring in higher character type of guys. But I mean,
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Speaker 1: holy cow, you go back j T to the So
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Speaker 1: some of the incidents that this team had, you know,
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Speaker 1: in twenty from off the field stuff to some of
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Speaker 1: the stuff that was on the field, it wasn't good,
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Speaker 1: you know, and it's hard to win that way. And
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Speaker 1: and I think if you look at the most successful
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Speaker 1: team in the National Football League, the Patriot, they never
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Speaker 1: really had any of those issues. I mean there were
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Speaker 1: some issues, but I mean they didn't have any distractions
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Speaker 1: during the season out of their players, whereas the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: and there seemed to be many. So I like that fact.
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Speaker 1: And yes, you can change your culture in a hurry,
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Speaker 1: and I think it has to start at the top
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Speaker 1: and then but when you bring in certain players, they
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Speaker 1: gotta have you gotta have guidelines, and then when you
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Speaker 1: bring them in here, there has to be an understanding.
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Speaker 1: And I'm sure that Doug Morone is gonna stress that out,
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Speaker 1: stress that to the highest point, because that's something that
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Speaker 1: I know that he feels very strongly about. And I
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Speaker 1: think that that was I don't want to say that
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Speaker 1: was all his doing. I think it was a little
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Speaker 1: bit of a combination of Dave called well and on
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Speaker 1: run both thinking, look, we need to do this right
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Speaker 1: and here's an opportunity for us to do it right
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Speaker 1: with all these picks that we have. Let's change the culture.
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Speaker 1: And that's what they talked about, and I think that
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Speaker 1: that's part of of of being a winner, and that's
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Speaker 1: what has to change certainly with this football team. The
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Speaker 1: culture has to change. Accountability has to come up, and
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Speaker 1: the character needs to be there in order for a
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Speaker 1: lot of those things to happen, and certainly a lot
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Speaker 1: of those things need to have happen for this team
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Speaker 1: to win. Loves last couple of minutes with you here
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Speaker 1: going through the last day's worth of picks. So that
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Speaker 1: was eight picks on Saturday, busy day at the draft
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Speaker 1: room for Dave Caldwell and the and the crew uh
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Speaker 1: picking players for this team. So I'm gonna ask you
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Speaker 1: who you know maybe you might be your favorite right
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Speaker 1: out of the gate of the later round picks, I'm
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Speaker 1: picking a couple of different guys here, quarterman, the linebacker,
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Speaker 1: I think he has a chance downhill type of linebacker. Um.
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Speaker 1: And then the the one that I guess not surprised
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Speaker 1: but kind of made you going was the tight end
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Speaker 1: from Georgia Tech, Tyler Davis, and he was a transfer
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Speaker 1: in from yukon good numbers there went to Georgia Tech
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Speaker 1: and as a grand transfer last year. And this is
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Speaker 1: an offense in transition in Atlanta, remember because they played
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Speaker 1: the option, the triple option for ten years and then
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Speaker 1: fire Paul Johnson left. They bring in a new coach.
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Speaker 1: The offense is trying to figure out who's playing well.
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Speaker 1: They haven't had a tight end, a true tight end
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Speaker 1: on the roster really in a decade, so he didn't
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Speaker 1: get the ball a lot. If he can figure out
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Speaker 1: if he can manage the blocking in the league and
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Speaker 1: catch the ball when it's thrown to him, those kind
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Speaker 1: of guys logs can have a lengthy career if they
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Speaker 1: can get through those early years of maturation in the NFL.
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Speaker 1: Those are my two favorites. What about you, Well, I
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Speaker 1: want to see him first, but you know, because I
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Speaker 1: haven't watched the film on the later round picks yet.
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Speaker 1: But I will say this is that typically later round
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Speaker 1: picks or later round picks for a reason, And so
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Speaker 1: I usually get excited about some of your third in
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Speaker 1: your fourth round picks because I think that's where some
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Speaker 1: guys can really surprise you and all of a sudden
15:19
Speaker 1: go wow, how did somebody not take a flyer on
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Speaker 1: him in the first round of the second round because
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Speaker 1: he's a player. So I think the third in the
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Speaker 1: fourth round is where you find more of those guys
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Speaker 1: where you get really excited about, like the quarterback from
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Speaker 1: Michigan State, Scott you know either him also quarterman as
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Speaker 1: you mentioned, the linebacker from Miami and Daniel Thomas all Burn,
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Speaker 1: the safety. I mean, those are guys that are right
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Speaker 1: there in that sweet spot of the draft where you're
15:48
Speaker 1: looking at third, fourth and fifth round ers where they
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Speaker 1: may end up being certainly much better prospects than where
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Speaker 1: they were drafted at or their draft status, and and
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Speaker 1: you get a little bit tired of hearing all the personnel,
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Speaker 1: all guys talk about all their draft picks and oh,
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Speaker 1: we had a first round grade at autom we were
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Speaker 1: fortunate to get him in the third round. Sometimes when
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Speaker 1: you hear that, you sit there and you go, that's
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Speaker 1: a little ridiculous. But in some cases, look, that's the
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Speaker 1: belief that they have and guys, and sometimes that plays out,
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Speaker 1: and a lot of times it doesn't play out. You
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Speaker 1: end up seeing a guy who's drafted in the second round.
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Speaker 1: We shouldn't have been drafted in the fourth round, you know,
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Speaker 1: so uh so for me, in that sweet spot of
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Speaker 1: that third fourth round, that's where you really look to
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Speaker 1: find some guys. But look at it happens, but it's
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Speaker 1: happened before to where all of a sudden, JP in
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Speaker 1: the sixth round or seventh round pick all of a
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Speaker 1: sudden turns into a really good football player. But the
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Speaker 1: percentage is just don't there. It's funny. You've never heard
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Speaker 1: a college coach say, you know, we had a decent
16:45
Speaker 1: recruiting class, it was okay this year. You've never heard
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Speaker 1: of GM or coach say, yeah, our draft classes, yeah
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Speaker 1: they're okay. You know, they're always great, and this one
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Speaker 1: has a chance to turn it around if you can
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Speaker 1: hit on some of these guys well. And I think
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Speaker 1: the one thing that became very apparent after the draft
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Speaker 1: was over that this football team and the organization as
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Speaker 1: a whole has gone all in on Gardner Minshew, I mean,
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's the that's probably one of
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Speaker 1: the biggest headlines that has come out of this draft
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Speaker 1: for this football team. And is that the right thing?
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Speaker 1: I don't know that I don't know the answer to that.
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Speaker 1: Only the future will tell that. But there was an
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Speaker 1: opportunity there in the first round for the Jaguars to
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Speaker 1: be able to select the quarterback. Whether it been early
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Speaker 1: on at nine or sometime later on, you know, they
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Speaker 1: had a chance to do that. So uh, it definitely
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Speaker 1: certainly tells people that, hey, Minshew is the mania, and
17:41
Speaker 1: we got the mania here in the in the front office,
17:43
Speaker 1: and we got the mania. The head coach's office loves
17:47
Speaker 1: good stuff. You are a pretty good lead off hitter.
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Speaker 1: I'll say, hey, I try my best, dipty, I tried
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Speaker 1: my best. In the next week, well, I've had an
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Speaker 1: opportunity to watch some of film on some of these
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Speaker 1: these uh the fourth and later of the round, and
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Speaker 1: we can go in a little bit of detail. I
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Speaker 1: might give you a name of a guy. Watch out.
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Speaker 1: This guy is who I'm really excited about. Oh, I
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Speaker 1: can't wait. That's a week away from today. We'll hear
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Speaker 1: from Logs again. Uh, thank you, Loggs. We'll talk to
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Speaker 1: you then. Alright, plenty still to come on. Jaguars Happy
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Speaker 1: Hour will return with a visit with Gus mal Zan.
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Speaker 1: He's the head coach of the Auburn Tigers, and we
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Speaker 1: gust mals On here on Jaguars Happy Hour. How has
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Speaker 1: this been for your football program? No spring ball, A
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Speaker 1: and players getting along to this time? Yeah, obviously it's
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Speaker 1: summer and getting ready to play the season. Coach, sixteen
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Speaker 1: players from your program have been drafted over the last
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Speaker 1: three years. That's the best from Auburn's from since to
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Speaker 1: ninety one. That's a long time ago now, but part
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Speaker 1: of programs success. I've he was winning football games, winning
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Speaker 1: on from there. But seeing players go pro. Six Auburn
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Speaker 1: players drafted this year, that tells you a lot about
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Speaker 1: where your program is right now. Yeah, it really does.
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Speaker 1: We're very excited, um, you know about the guys and
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Speaker 1: good uh time right now to be an Auburn Tiger.
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Speaker 1: Let's talk about Daniel Thomas and I was reading about
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Speaker 1: his recruitment stories. Pretty interesting. He was a late addition
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Speaker 1: so after he left, we wanted to make this thing work,
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Speaker 1: special moment for him to be drafted. Now, I mean,
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Speaker 1: to now, how much did he grow? Let's start off
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Speaker 1: off the field as a person. What kind of person
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Speaker 1: did he become in those years? And I'll tell you
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Speaker 1: what you're getting. An unbelievable leader. Uh, such a positive person,
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Speaker 1: verses out every day, you know, to the team and
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Speaker 1: the spring and he went back to back years and
26:55
Speaker 1: just a wonderful human being. That's gonna bring a lot
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Speaker 1: of positivity to that locker room. Gus Mason with his
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Speaker 1: head coach of the Auburn Tigers now on the field,
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Speaker 1: he was paired up with Jeremiah Denson at the safety
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Speaker 1: position the last couple of years. It was a good
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Speaker 1: tag team combo in the back end of your defense. There.
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Speaker 1: He was second on the team and tackles the last
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Speaker 1: two years. What kind of player will the Jaguars get
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Speaker 1: at the safety position and on special teams as well. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I call him the heat seeking messial. I mean, he
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Speaker 1: just has nose for the ball and um, you know,
27:23
Speaker 1: and he's a very good tackler, a good open field tackler,
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27:33
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27:36
Speaker 1: special things. He's one of our better special teams player.
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27:42
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27:44
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27:49
Speaker 1: playing in the league a long long time. What was
27:53
Speaker 1: the best moment that you remember from him on the field.
27:57
Speaker 1: Is it that Iron Bowl his first time out a
27:59
Speaker 1: couple of picks again hurts Or is there something later
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28:05
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28:15
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28:19
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Speaker 1: And then after that, really the the next three years,
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28:26
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28:29
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28:36
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28:39
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28:42
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28:45
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28:48
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28:52
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28:58
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29:07
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29:11
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29:16
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29:18
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29:21
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29:25
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29:27
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29:31
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29:34
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29:37
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29:39
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29:41
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29:44
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29:46
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29:49
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29:52
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29:54
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29:57
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30:00
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30:04
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30:07
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30:09
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30:12
Speaker 1: So now there's a lot of tread left on the
30:14
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30:17
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30:19
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30:22
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30:26
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30:29
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30:33
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30:37
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30:40
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30:44
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30:47
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30:48
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30:50
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30:53
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30:55
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30:58
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31:02
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31:04
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31:06
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31:09
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31:13
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31:17
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31:20
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31:23
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31:29
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31:34
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31:37
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Speaker 1: scarf it down. John, What are you making this? Andy
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Speaker 1: Dalton buzz on social media. I guess we kind of
36:44
Speaker 1: saw this coming when he was cut. But do you
36:47
Speaker 1: think you know, log seems to think that it wouldn't
36:50
Speaker 1: be a bad idea depending on the price. Yeah, it's
36:53
Speaker 1: a lot of sense. I mean, it's uh and ticularly
36:57
Speaker 1: makes sense, not necessarily because the iford can extent so much,
37:01
Speaker 1: but you know, clearly, Jake Gruden to spend time with Dalton.
37:06
Speaker 1: It's probably a comfort level there. Uh, And I sent
37:09
Speaker 1: throughout the IF the off season, we talked about it.
37:14
Speaker 1: They have hope in Minshew and they have reason to hope.
37:19
Speaker 1: But you know, as much as I like and as
37:22
Speaker 1: much as I hope too, there were long stretches last
37:25
Speaker 1: year where Minshew really struggled and even in some of
37:30
Speaker 1: the winds, you know, there were long periods of half
37:35
Speaker 1: that if if that would happen again, which I don't
37:39
Speaker 1: think it will, but if it would, do you want
37:42
Speaker 1: your backups to be dobbed and a rookie and I
37:47
Speaker 1: think it still feels like they would like there to
37:50
Speaker 1: be some alternatives there, and uh, you know, to me,
37:54
Speaker 1: Dalton for that reason makes sense. I don't know if
37:56
Speaker 1: they need to go after other guys because they assume
38:00
Speaker 1: that Dalton would come available this way. That seems like
38:04
Speaker 1: a little bit of a reach because you can't always
38:06
Speaker 1: assume things like that. I don't know they would have
38:09
Speaker 1: precluded from going after somebody else, but I can't help
38:12
Speaker 1: but think that get the relationship with Gruden wouldn't help
38:15
Speaker 1: on that front. I guess the other part of it
38:18
Speaker 1: as a cost like, what's what's he really expecting that
38:20
Speaker 1: the market can't be crazy for him. Now, you wouldn't
38:25
Speaker 1: think based on what Winston got in in New Orleans. Um,
38:29
Speaker 1: I mean you know, and uh, but you never know
38:34
Speaker 1: how that plays out. You know, you wouldn't have necessarily
38:39
Speaker 1: thought the Jaguars would have they a would get a
38:41
Speaker 1: fourth for Fold when other teams couldn't get anything for
38:45
Speaker 1: New you know, so the quarterback market sometimes doesn't play
38:51
Speaker 1: by the same rules as the rest of the market
38:53
Speaker 1: because it's quarterback. But if you get him for reasonable um,
38:58
Speaker 1: you know, no matter what people might think and say,
39:03
Speaker 1: And this is not a rebuild, this is not a
39:06
Speaker 1: tank for Trevor. There's none of that is reality to
39:11
Speaker 1: people making decisions for this team. So if they think
39:14
Speaker 1: that Dalton is a guy who can give them a
39:17
Speaker 1: good chance, and if they want to and they think
39:19
Speaker 1: he's the right fit, then absolutely I think it makes sense. Yeah,
39:23
Speaker 1: the the whole tanking argument is ridiculous. I mean, you
39:27
Speaker 1: don't tank because you get fired this year. If you
39:30
Speaker 1: tank well and even you know, to me looks no
39:35
Speaker 1: further than Miami last year to know that it it's ridiculous.
39:39
Speaker 1: This is a team that. I mean, everybody in the
39:41
Speaker 1: media who was close to that team was sure that
39:45
Speaker 1: they were tanking. And it almost felt when you read
39:48
Speaker 1: the report, and I know some of the reporters down
39:50
Speaker 1: there have done in a long time, it felt like
39:52
Speaker 1: they were hearing it from the inside. They were so confident.
39:54
Speaker 1: You know, there's a different kind of reporting when you're
39:56
Speaker 1: hearing the stores. Well, guess what, once floor has got there,
40:01
Speaker 1: And once those players started playing, they didn't want to
40:04
Speaker 1: lose sixteen games? So why try when it's out of
40:11
Speaker 1: your control? Are you gonna try to lose sixteen? What
40:14
Speaker 1: a another team loses sixteen? So I just think it's uh,
40:18
Speaker 1: especially with this roster right now. JP. If you look
40:20
Speaker 1: at the roster on the Jaguars, you've got Minshoe and
40:24
Speaker 1: three really good young players Taylor uh Shark and uh
40:31
Speaker 1: I'm Jonah and Josh Allen, plus Miles Jack plus now
40:37
Speaker 1: five or six rookies who you think you're gonna make
40:40
Speaker 1: huge impact and Brandon Linder and Norma. This is not
40:44
Speaker 1: the two thousand and thirteen Jaguars where when I looked
40:47
Speaker 1: at me, I thought, boy, where did they compete? Every
40:51
Speaker 1: every roster spot has either a good player or a
40:55
Speaker 1: potentially very good player prime pick. I just don't I
41:00
Speaker 1: don't see the tanking thing beyond the fact they traded
41:02
Speaker 1: some veterans who I think most of those veterans, people
41:07
Speaker 1: who know football don't think they were close to being
41:09
Speaker 1: in their prime anyway. So I don't know that they're
41:12
Speaker 1: worse than last year. I just don't think they are.
41:16
Speaker 1: It is a lot of youth coming in though, John
41:18
Speaker 1: Osan with US Jaguars dot Com senior writer here on
41:20
Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour on this Thursday afternoon. But yeah, twelve
41:24
Speaker 1: draft picks, eighteen undrafted rookie free agents signed, So that's
41:29
Speaker 1: dirty rookies on the roster right now for this football team. Now,
41:33
Speaker 1: there's a lot of youth, and as we know, John,
41:36
Speaker 1: a lot of times a lot of youth means a
41:38
Speaker 1: lot of els. But as you said, there there are
41:42
Speaker 1: some some of the early round draft picks especially, that
41:44
Speaker 1: are going to be expected to jump in and make
41:47
Speaker 1: an impact. Whether they do or not, that's you know,
41:50
Speaker 1: we'll see. But that's where they are right now. It's
41:53
Speaker 1: a young, gonna be a young football team. Outside of
41:56
Speaker 1: even this draft class and this rookie class, I mean,
41:58
Speaker 1: there's still impact players that are very young on this team.
42:02
Speaker 1: Oh when I say, I don't grasp the tanking thing,
42:04
Speaker 1: and I don't grasp why people think this team is
42:06
Speaker 1: gonna go what one and fifteen? I'm not saying they're
42:10
Speaker 1: a double digit win team yet. I just think there
42:13
Speaker 1: is a place between two and fourteen and ten and
42:16
Speaker 1: six that this team has a chance to settle. It
42:20
Speaker 1: was six and ten last year. I think the run
42:22
Speaker 1: defense is much better than it was last year, and
42:25
Speaker 1: that to me was where everything split off the table
42:27
Speaker 1: last year. Beyond that, they were a relatively competitive team.
42:32
Speaker 1: So does in talking to him clearly like the idea,
42:39
Speaker 1: and he's hit on this team. He's hit on this
42:42
Speaker 1: team every time he talked publicly. He's excited about having
42:46
Speaker 1: a bunch of guys who were all pulling in the
42:48
Speaker 1: same direction without a lot of outside stuff. And there
42:54
Speaker 1: might be, you know, to say what you want about
42:57
Speaker 1: Jan and Leonard and all the trade stuff. Might be
43:00
Speaker 1: a few guys who have some lingering issues, But overall,
43:03
Speaker 1: I think you would agree jp this locker room next year,
43:07
Speaker 1: it if and when we're walking into it is going
43:11
Speaker 1: to feel like it's pulling in a new direction. And
43:14
Speaker 1: I don't know how you. I don't know what Pandel
43:17
Speaker 1: we can say about that, but it feels like it's
43:20
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's one tailor, d J. Chart Gardner, Minshew's team
43:25
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be pulling in their direction. And I
43:27
Speaker 1: think the organization is excited about that. Uh. We talked
43:32
Speaker 1: a lot over the weekend on Zoom JP. It feels
43:36
Speaker 1: like this draft is going to be looked back on
43:38
Speaker 1: as a see change, new direction draft. We'll see if
43:44
Speaker 1: the players can live up to that. John Osan with
43:46
Speaker 1: the Jaguars dot Com senior writer here on Jaguars Happy.
43:49
Speaker 1: Our last couple of minutes with you here, John, So,
43:51
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you of the twelve draft picks, what
43:56
Speaker 1: was the Jaguar's best selection, maybe the best value, the
44:01
Speaker 1: one that made the most sense, and then what was
44:04
Speaker 1: a pick that made you go hmm? And then how
44:09
Speaker 1: do they get how do they prove that's the right call?
44:12
Speaker 1: You know? I think C. J. Henderson has been overlooked
44:15
Speaker 1: a little bit, maybe because he's a quiet guy, is
44:17
Speaker 1: not as fun to talk to as I chased on
44:20
Speaker 1: or our quarterman. But he'd satter be your best selection.
44:26
Speaker 1: And this is a guy who's job. It is very quickly.
44:31
Speaker 1: You know, most secondaries in the NFL aren't as loaded
44:35
Speaker 1: as the Jaguars were in two thousand seventy. Teams they've
44:38
Speaker 1: usually got one premier guy who can take away a
44:41
Speaker 1: side of the field. Let the other guys double there, guys, etcetera.
44:46
Speaker 1: Very quickly. He needs to be He was only taking
44:50
Speaker 1: four spots below Jail. You know, this is not like
44:53
Speaker 1: this is a low first round draft pick when you're yeah,
44:57
Speaker 1: when you're picked in the top ten at a corner
45:00
Speaker 1: that's relatively rare. So you know, I think he has
45:03
Speaker 1: the trade. They love this guy and it's become vogue
45:07
Speaker 1: in the last three or four days. Talked about the
45:08
Speaker 1: rest of the draft class. But I think he's the
45:12
Speaker 1: guy that will certainly be watching more than any because
45:15
Speaker 1: he's the guy who has to come through. I don't
45:17
Speaker 1: know if there was a pick that surprised me as
45:19
Speaker 1: much as in fact they didn't go running back at
45:22
Speaker 1: some point um, I thought, even beyond the Leonard Fournette stuff,
45:28
Speaker 1: whatever happens there, it felt to me before the draft
45:31
Speaker 1: like they needed that change of hate um at a
45:37
Speaker 1: missability guy, whatever that means. It felt like that was
45:41
Speaker 1: going to be a pick, and apparently they feel good
45:46
Speaker 1: about Armstead, they feel good about Leonard Fournett's ability to
45:49
Speaker 1: do that. Um, you wonder if free agent released during
45:56
Speaker 1: training camp, guy in running back, which often happens, could
46:00
Speaker 1: be a guy like that for a year. But I
46:03
Speaker 1: was a little surprised fourth round didn't include that. I
46:06
Speaker 1: was very vocal for the draft that I thought. I
46:09
Speaker 1: thought that's where they would address that, and they didn't.
46:12
Speaker 1: Jaguars dot Com senior writer John Osan So the drafts
46:16
Speaker 1: over the off season program has got that right. The
46:22
Speaker 1: official start of the off season programs here, So that
46:25
Speaker 1: means there's meetings and stuff going on virtually. So what
46:29
Speaker 1: now for you? What's what's the coverage like for you
46:32
Speaker 1: on the team's site coming up in the next couple
46:34
Speaker 1: of weeks. I think all of us are doing the
46:36
Speaker 1: same thing, trying to reach out to as many college coaches,
46:40
Speaker 1: Jaguars assistant trying to get a feel for this draft class.
46:45
Speaker 1: I we're starting what we call the ozone podcast, and
46:50
Speaker 1: we talked to who try to go yeah, try to
46:54
Speaker 1: go a little deeper, you know, some in depth type
46:59
Speaker 1: stuff interviews, which I like to do. Any have you
47:02
Speaker 1: told anybody about this yet. I don't think this is public. Yeah,
47:05
Speaker 1: this is breaking news. Uh yeah, we've talked about it
47:08
Speaker 1: amongst ourselves, but not publicly. Not but not on a
47:11
Speaker 1: radio show. That's true. True. So we'll be trying to
47:15
Speaker 1: do that and I will see that goes. Hope to
47:17
Speaker 1: have Michael Silver on the next week to talk a
47:20
Speaker 1: little about what what. He's still in the draft, and
47:23
Speaker 1: it's always good to talk to Mike anyway. He's he's
47:26
Speaker 1: a good NFL guy. So we'll we'll try that and
47:30
Speaker 1: on weeks I can't get those people. I've got some
47:32
Speaker 1: neighbors who are pretty interesting. Hey hey, Ted, Yeah, we'll
47:41
Speaker 1: see how it goes. We're gonna try to use this
47:43
Speaker 1: down to that downtime of time where we don't have
47:46
Speaker 1: access to players inside the building. Two. Uh, you reach
47:49
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47:52
Speaker 1: to that. John good Stuff is always going to talk
47:54
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47:56
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53:44
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53:46
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53:51
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Speaker 1: that the last couple of years. He's now Jacksonville Jaguar.
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Speaker 1: We caught up today and that's not out yet. You'll
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54:03
Speaker 1: Melt Tucker is now the head coach at Michigan State.
54:06
Speaker 1: Last year he was the head coach at Colorado, the
54:09
Speaker 1: Buffaloes head coach. He's a former Jaguars defensive coordinator of
54:13
Speaker 1: course from two thousand nine toe then he went on
54:16
Speaker 1: to the Bears for a couple of years as the
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54:21
Speaker 1: defensive backs coach, and it was the freshman year for
54:25
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Speaker 1: conversation on Monday as well. And then it was on
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Speaker 1: head coach last year. That means Lavisca Chennault was under
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Speaker 1: his head coaching staff last year and they used him
54:46
Speaker 1: a lot of different ways on the field. With the
54:49
Speaker 1: question I had for him was what is Labisca like
54:51
Speaker 1: off the field? He's a he's a really quiet guy
54:53
Speaker 1: and uh it really until he gets to know you.
54:56
Speaker 1: Um and uh So when I first got to votor
54:59
Speaker 1: he was, you know, very shy and uh and so
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55:06
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55:10
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55:12
Speaker 1: all about, and he's great, you know, and he's, like
55:15
Speaker 1: I said, he's a fun guy. He's always got smile
55:18
Speaker 1: on his face. He loves his team as he loves
55:20
Speaker 1: his coaches. He competes, he practices hard um, you know,
55:24
Speaker 1: but for people you know initially that he's not familiar with,
55:27
Speaker 1: he's gonna be he's gonna be quiet's gonna be reserved.
55:30
Speaker 1: He's got the he's got the braids. You know, they'll
55:32
Speaker 1: be covering his face every now and then. But he'll
55:34
Speaker 1: he'll he'll come out of it eventually. And uh and
55:38
Speaker 1: you guys will work well together and we'll see what
55:41
Speaker 1: Labisca has. The offer sounds like a lot for the
55:43
Speaker 1: Jaguars team, the second round pick out of Colorado. There
55:46
Speaker 1: thanks to Melt Tucker full visit coming up next week
55:49
Speaker 1: on Jaguars dot Com. Tied to go around the National
55:52
Speaker 1: Football League and we start off in Green Bay, Wisconsin,
55:56
Speaker 1: where the Packers selected Jordan's Love last Tuesday in the
56:00
Speaker 1: first round. They moved up four rounds to get him.
56:03
Speaker 1: So is this the beginning of the end for Aaron
56:06
Speaker 1: Rodgers in Green Bay? Well, Rogers has not made many
56:09
Speaker 1: appearances since then. He was out there socially a lot
56:13
Speaker 1: on social media, out and about as much as he
56:16
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56:18
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56:20
Speaker 1: does not happened much. But apparently he talked to Brett Farve,
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Speaker 1: and now Brett Farve was talking to a lot of
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Speaker 1: the media folks. So Farv said that basically disrespect would
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Speaker 1: be a term maybe too um describe what Rogers is feeling. Well, hey,
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Speaker 1: that's part of the NFL and and they've got to
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Speaker 1: move figure out the next step of the quarterback position.
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Speaker 1: And it may not be this year, may not be
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Speaker 1: the next two years, a couple of years down the line,
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Speaker 1: it might be time to move on from Aaron Rodgers.
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Speaker 1: And if you remember the same thing happened when Brett
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Speaker 1: Farve was the quarterback there, Rogers comes in late first
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Speaker 1: round it and but I had to sit on the
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Speaker 1: bench for a couple of three years under far Far
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Speaker 1: notoriously did not really uh go out of his way
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Speaker 1: to help Aaron Rodgers in that tutor in process that
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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's even the right term up
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Speaker 1: there for what happened, but uh, it moved on and
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Speaker 1: far Far at some point moved on. They moved on
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Speaker 1: from far But we ended up in Minnesota and and
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Speaker 1: the rest is history. And then Rogers has been the
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Speaker 1: quarterback from that. So interesting stuff there from the Green
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Speaker 1: Bay Packers. We heard earlier today the Bengals released Andy
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Speaker 1: Dalton after nine seasons. Joe Burrow is a new sheriff
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Speaker 1: in town there and the Jaguars immediately were one of
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Speaker 1: those team names thrown around for consideration for Andy Dalton.
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Speaker 1: And hearing from Jeff Logaman and John Osier in this
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Speaker 1: program today, it's it makes a lot of sense with
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Speaker 1: the offensive cornator j Gruden here now he was there
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Speaker 1: three years and Cincinnati with Dalton the first three years
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Speaker 1: Dalton was there, they won a lot of football games
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Speaker 1: in those times, not a lot of playoff games, not any,
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Speaker 1: but they got there. They were in the hunt, they
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Speaker 1: were in the mix, and they had some things going
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Speaker 1: in Cincinnati for a little while. We'll see what Dave
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Speaker 1: Caldwell has up his sleeve, if anything. Rob Gronkowski has
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Speaker 1: joined Tom Brady and Tampa Bay. But he boasted this
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Speaker 1: week about having the Bucks playbook early. The only problem
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Speaker 1: is that that was while he was still under control
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Speaker 1: of the New England Patriots. He has since said he
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Speaker 1: was joking. Well, um always interesting to see what Rob
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Speaker 1: Gronkowski has to say. And this is not breaking news.
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Speaker 1: It shouldn't be breaking news. It should be a well
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Speaker 1: dumb moment. More than anything, The chiefs of exercise the
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Speaker 1: fifth year option on Patrick Mahomes, a quarterback the Super
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Speaker 1: Bowl champions last year in Kansas City. Patrick Mahomes is
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Speaker 1: going nowhere for a long long time. At some point
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Speaker 1: they will extend him and and do all of that.
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Speaker 1: That'll do it for our program today, Jaguars Happy Hour
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Speaker 1: thanks to Jeff Lagman. So wore we get going here? Uh?
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Speaker 1: The three cheers segment is back. Three cheers on Happy
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Speaker 1: Hour to the Jaguars I T Department. They did a
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Speaker 1: great job over the draft last week with a football side,
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Speaker 1: with with the broadcast side, getting everybody connected, keeping them connected,
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Speaker 1: and the I T Department should get cheers for their
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Speaker 1: contribution to the Jaguars draft thanks to Jeff Logman or
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Speaker 1: thanks to gust Malason on the Albert Tigers, John Osier
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Speaker 1: and our entire crew on JP Shadrick. That'll do it
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Speaker 1: for Jaguars Happy Hour. We'll catch you next week on
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars Digital Network.