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Patriots Unfiltered 5/22: Forged in Foxborough, Recent OTAs, Offseason Topics · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 3: The thing that caught my eyes I was walking out
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  Speaker 3: here was Morgan Moses and Will Campbell a one on
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  Speaker 3: one session in the middle of the practice.
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  Speaker 2: I might need a moment.
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  Speaker 4: It started just with him and Will Campbell, and Will
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  Speaker 4: Campbell's like you people came over, yeah, Will Campbell's like
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  Speaker 4: Kateen Wallace came over, and kan Wallace just standing there
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  Speaker 4: watching Morgan Moses listening, and then Marcus, Marcus Bryant, he
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  Speaker 4: starts to come on and all of them are kind of.
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  Speaker 2: Like, you know, he's feeding the masses with you know,
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  Speaker 2: tuloads of bread and a fish. Every word that that
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  Speaker 2: guy says. I just I was hanging on.
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  Speaker 4: H right, tell me more than yeah you be my dad.
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  Speaker 2: Our first day of OTA, so we're ready.
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  Speaker 3: To go's not here to rain on our Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is a rainy
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  Speaker 2: Thursday here at Jilette Stadium. Temperatures are in the forties.
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  Speaker 2: We're back to winter here in New England. It's crazy.
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  Speaker 3: Feel bad for the North Carolina women's lacrosse team that
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  Speaker 3: was just walking onto the stadium for practice.
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  Speaker 2: No, I was thinking about that. We got the NCAA
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  Speaker 2: Cross here, the final four this weekend. The women have
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  Speaker 2: their first their semis today. Is that what it is? Tomorrow?
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  Speaker 6: Tomorrow?
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  Speaker 2: Tomorrow? Tomorrow? What's today? Thursday? Yeah, so they're going to
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  Speaker 2: be playing tomorrow, but the weather is terrible. They got
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  Speaker 2: practice and it's awful. Get hit when one of those
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  Speaker 2: lacrossballs in this weather.
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  Speaker 7: And.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, it's Evan Paul's back, it's duein'ce me. Matt's in
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  Speaker 2: the booth. We're talking Patriots for the next two hours.
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  Speaker 2: Ot as we went to those a couple of days ago.
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  Speaker 2: We wrapped that up. So I don't know if there's
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  Speaker 2: any lingering observations.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, are there any more shots? You'd like to take?
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  Speaker 8: It me?
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  Speaker 3: In's everything that I'm wrong with that practice.
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  Speaker 6: You know that's a good point, did you?
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  Speaker 7: Guys probably never mentioned the fact that the quarterbacks before
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  Speaker 7: week No, I'll let everybody know that that happened, and
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  Speaker 7: I am also going to let everybody know that it
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  Speaker 7: didn't bother me at all. Yeah, didn't bother me at all.
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  Speaker 2: That's true.
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  Speaker 7: When you're installing an offense, things are happening for a
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  Speaker 7: variety of different reasons and they don't all mean something bad.
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  Speaker 7: So didn't didn't bother me in the least. Is that
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  Speaker 7: raining on your parade?
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  Speaker 6: Mike? You don't think I didn't hear you in the back?
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  Speaker 2: No, it was.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, I agree with what you said.
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  Speaker 3: I mean it's I think the reasonable people understand this
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  Speaker 3: is I was thinking about it.
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  Speaker 2: Do you want drake me.
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  Speaker 3: To come in and look instantly perfect in this offense?
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  Speaker 6: Would that make yes? Would that make you feel good?
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  Speaker 6: That would make me feel I'm not gonna lie.
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  Speaker 7: It would have made me feel better if you're through
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  Speaker 7: four touchdowns instead of four interceptions.
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  Speaker 3: But I don't want those, no, Paul, It's like twelve
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  Speaker 3: win seasons. I'm done with you all over the defense.
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  Speaker 7: The defense, well, just one, just no particular play and
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  Speaker 7: it wasn't one of the interceptions. You know, just as
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  Speaker 7: an example of it. You don't really know exactly what
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  Speaker 7: they're trying to do. Is Alex Austen knocked down a
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  Speaker 7: pass at one point and Mike Rabel really gave it
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  Speaker 7: to him, like what are you doing? Like you know,
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  Speaker 7: you don't make a play on the ball, and that's it,
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  Speaker 7: you know. So I'm not telling you that the intercepts
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  Speaker 7: were on purpose or anything else, but just don't read
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  Speaker 7: too much into things that are going on with shorts
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  Speaker 7: and helmets on an Ota or mini can't practice field
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  Speaker 7: because there's a lot of different things that are at
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  Speaker 7: work and you're not privy to most of them, right.
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  Speaker 3: I just I think this is an install and there's
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  Speaker 3: nothing more important to like the coaching staff, Josh McDaniels,
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  Speaker 3: Mike Vrabel than teaching these players how to execute the playbook.
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  Speaker 3: And they do nothing probably this off season, other than
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  Speaker 3: trying to think, how can I teach my players this playbook?
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  Speaker 3: And so I think some of the Paul shows were implying, like, no,
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  Speaker 3: they just took the Brady playbook from twenty nineteen and
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  Speaker 3: everything that it entailed and piled it on and here
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  Speaker 3: it is.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, I don't think that's And one thing
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  Speaker 2: if I with Josh McDaniel's that I'm telling Drake May
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  Speaker 2: and all my offense run the play don't hold the ball,
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  Speaker 2: just throw it where it's supposed to be. We need
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  Speaker 2: to see what's working and what's not working. And so
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  Speaker 2: you know, you're not supposed to add lib this time
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  Speaker 2: of year, you know, don't freelance. It's just run it
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  Speaker 2: the way we call it and we'll work out the
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  Speaker 2: whether hill or whether it's there or not, and we'll
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  Speaker 2: work it out afterwards. But don't you know, follow the
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  Speaker 2: script yea, the timing and the timing of the script.
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  Speaker 6: You know, that's right, I mean, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: One of the good things about this time of year, though,
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  Speaker 4: is that we get these like checkpoints and now we'll
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  Speaker 4: see them next week, and then we'll see them a
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  Speaker 4: week after that, and we hopefully will see it improving,
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  Speaker 4: you know, and get betting better, better and better as
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  Speaker 4: the summer goes along, but hopefully. I just think the
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  Speaker 4: one thing that that is fair in my mind is
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  Speaker 4: that they are installing a brand new offense for the
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  Speaker 4: second year in a row for Drake May Like, he
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  Speaker 4: did not run this offense last year, and so instead
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  Speaker 4: of hitting the ground running in year two, we're not
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  Speaker 4: back to square one because he played last year. So
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  Speaker 4: like he's you know, we're still a little higher, you know,
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  Speaker 4: a lot further along than what he would have been
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  Speaker 4: as a rookie. But it is kind of like two
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  Speaker 4: steps you know, back to take right.
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  Speaker 2: The speed of the game shouldn't be new to him, right,
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  Speaker 2: And that's the usual thing that you know, trips up
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  Speaker 2: most of these guys. It's the speed of the game.
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  Speaker 2: But listen, have I been, you know, victim of looking
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  Speaker 2: at things too optimistically? Yes, and you know, maybe I
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  Speaker 2: am right now, But right now I think it's way
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  Speaker 2: too early to be worried. Now if we get into
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  Speaker 2: training camp and this continues, okay.
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  Speaker 7: But even last year it started at a level and
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  Speaker 7: then it steadily rose in training camp because I don't
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  Speaker 7: think he looked great at the start of training camp
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  Speaker 7: last year, but there was a time Joel, the time, right,
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  Speaker 7: you know, that it sort of clicked for him and
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  Speaker 7: he seemed to get better and better as camp progressed,
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  Speaker 7: to the point where we all felt like maybe he
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  Speaker 7: had won the job.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I just think a lot of people fairly were hoping
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  Speaker 4: that it was going to pick up right where it
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  Speaker 4: left off and so that we didn't have this adjustment
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  Speaker 4: period or you know, whatever you want to call it,
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  Speaker 4: that it seems to be happening right now and instead
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  Speaker 4: we're reinstalling a new offense and they're kind of starting
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  Speaker 4: from a lower level than if you were just carrying
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  Speaker 4: it over from last year. But the ceiling of what
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  Speaker 4: they're able to do with McDaniels and with the pieces like,
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  Speaker 4: that's what they're working towards, and it's so much higher
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  Speaker 4: than what they had last year. So it's worth it. It's
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  Speaker 4: going to hopefully be worth it in the long run.
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  Speaker 4: But right now I understand why people are disappointed that well,
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  Speaker 4: we're changing everything up on them and now we're starting over.
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  Speaker 4: And like I get that.
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  Speaker 3: It's such a headlines too, coming out of the four interceptions,
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  Speaker 3: it's easy to say.
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  Speaker 6: I would just say.
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  Speaker 3: Though, honestly, like I just think this underscores where the
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  Speaker 3: ceiling of this team lies hidden, and that is with
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  Speaker 3: Drake May and how good is he going to be
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  Speaker 3: this year? They've got a lot more talent on the team,
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  Speaker 3: no question, but it all revolves around him.
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  Speaker 6: If he takes that next step, then they'll be better.
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  Speaker 3: And if he doesn't and he's sloppy, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: then they're going to be probably mired middle blow the middle.
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  Speaker 7: There'll be one of those teams that has some talent
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  Speaker 7: but it's struggled to put it together because of a quarterback.
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  Speaker 7: And you know, as you know, Mike, I do a
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  Speaker 7: lot of you know, talking around the area.
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  Speaker 6: And one of the questions, I'm off.
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  Speaker 2: Libraries near you?
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  Speaker 7: No, so I was at I was at a bank
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  Speaker 7: with the other night and you know, I did I
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  Speaker 7: have rubber chicken?
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  Speaker 6: I was on the rubber chicken. It was actually a
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  Speaker 6: pretty good steak.
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  Speaker 4: Good spread.
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  Speaker 6: Not lie, not gonna lie. It was a pretty good Steak,
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  Speaker 6: Lombardo's and random A lot of people just so, what
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  Speaker 6: do you think, what do you know?
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  Speaker 7: You know, it seems like, you know, there's a lot
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  Speaker 7: of excitement this and that, and I said, yeah, I
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  Speaker 7: and my answer is pretty much the same to everybody.
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  Speaker 7: They've improved on paper, the players, same stuff we talk
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  Speaker 7: about here. The players they've brought in and my view,
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  Speaker 7: are better than the players they're going to be replacing
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  Speaker 7: in most cases. But not much of that is going
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  Speaker 7: to matter if Drake made doesn't aggression.
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  Speaker 6: Mike just said, that's true.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think it's important because on one hand,
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  Speaker 3: you can't kill Drake for that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's part of learning.
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  Speaker 3: And maybe we're taking a half step back to try
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  Speaker 3: to take five steps forward, like Evan said. But at
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  Speaker 3: the same time, you can't sweep under the rug. How
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  Speaker 3: important Drake.
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  Speaker 6: Mays progress is this year.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, even if the other talent doesn't live
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  Speaker 3: up to some of the expectations, Drake may could offset
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  Speaker 3: some of that. You know, if the number one ride
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  Speaker 3: receiver isn't you know, doesn't emerge, or if Stefan Diggs
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  Speaker 3: isn't that pure prototypical number one, if Drake May's playing
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  Speaker 3: really well, it'll matter last I mean, it's still obviously
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  Speaker 3: will matter. But I just think everything revolves around Drake
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  Speaker 3: May this year, for better or worse.
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  Speaker 2: If you're if you're Vraybel, do you care about the
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  Speaker 2: scrutiny that the media is giving your quarterback and are
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  Speaker 2: you thinking about that as you plan your practices to
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  Speaker 2: maybe set him up to get some early success so
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  Speaker 2: that it alleviates some of that. I mean, maybe I'm
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  Speaker 2: overthinking noble happening. Like it's the NFL. There's pressure, people
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  Speaker 2: are gonna talk.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, enough, you can hide him, right, like that's what
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  Speaker 4: they did to Mac.
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  Speaker 6: Jones, Like if you're onto something.
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  Speaker 4: They hit him, you know, his rookie year, and eventually
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  Speaker 4: it's it's gonna come out, whether he can play or not.
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  Speaker 7: I don't think Mike really thinks it's necessarily a bad thing.
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  Speaker 6: He should be. He should be scrutinized.
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  Speaker 7: Now, I will say I didn't listen to as much,
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  Speaker 7: like you know, I was joking around, but I have been.
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  Speaker 7: It's a busy week for me, so I haven't heard
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  Speaker 7: as much of my shows as I normally do.
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  Speaker 6: I haven't I didn't hear a ton.
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  Speaker 7: Of overreaction to the four picks, which I was kind
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  Speaker 7: of expecting, not gonna lie.
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  Speaker 6: I thought there'd be a ton of like, what's going on.
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  Speaker 7: It's more like what you're talking about, Fred, Yeah, Like
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  Speaker 7: the concern is for Drake May. This is four offensive
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  Speaker 7: coordinators in four years. Two years at North Carolina, now
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  Speaker 7: two years with the Patriots, four different offensive coordinators, and
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  Speaker 7: I think that's a legit concern. I don't think the
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  Speaker 7: concern is, oh my god, he threw four interceptions. They
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  Speaker 7: blow it up in an Ota, and I haven't heard
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  Speaker 7: a ton of concern for that.
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  Speaker 6: But I'll bet Mike you might be right. I seem
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  Speaker 6: to sounds like one of those things. Hey, that's life.
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  Speaker 7: You know that Rabel, you know, sort of likes that,
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  Speaker 7: that situation where you know you're sort of your feature
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  Speaker 7: the fire a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well he knows, well, he's I mean, you said
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  Speaker 3: they had some epic interactions between Felger and him in
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  Speaker 3: the locker room, right, So no one knows better than
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  Speaker 3: Mike Rabel the kind of scrutiny that this team is
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  Speaker 3: constantly under.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, sounds good. Well there's that. We're still
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  Speaker 2: we're still receiving comments from Forge and Foxborough. People are
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  Speaker 2: loving it. I'm loving the access that we were granted,
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  Speaker 2: you know, by the team. It was unprecedented.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: You know when I thought maybe at some point in
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  Speaker 2: the show, maybe now, maybe later, you know, we kind
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  Speaker 2: of break down what we liked in it and you
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  Speaker 2: know what we gleaned from it and shows presence.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I was gonna say, you see the people make
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  Speaker 6: a fun of their hairstick.
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  Speaker 3: I needed a little digital you.
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  Speaker 4: Know, I'll get you some paste.
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  Speaker 3: Quick, quick, funny story regarding this. You know, the football
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  Speaker 3: video guys. We're walking through the tunnel and I saw
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  Speaker 3: one of the construction people who were here working stop
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  Speaker 3: one of them and was saying, I love Fores and Foxboro.
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  Speaker 3: They're telling the football video guys that and they're like, no,
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  Speaker 3: we didn't, we didn't make it, but but thanks well, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, and I overheard it, so I was like, oh, no,
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  Speaker 2: that's cool.
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  Speaker 3: But I've heard a lot of really good reactions from
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  Speaker 3: Patriots fans. For me, I've always I always mentioned the
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  Speaker 3: Belichick talking to his team in the nine documentaries.
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  Speaker 6: My favorite part.
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  Speaker 3: I love seeing coaches talk to their teams and the
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  Speaker 3: methods that So for me, that first part with Bradil
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  Speaker 3: talking to the team, that was my favorite part.
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  Speaker 2: Well, when we saw that, you know, like you know,
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  Speaker 2: we've had Belichick and and even Mayo last year and
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  Speaker 2: we asked over the years, okay, can we you know,
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  Speaker 2: do a team meeting, you know, especially that first one,
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  Speaker 2: and always the answer was no, and these guys said, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: let's do it. And so I've never really seen one before.
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  Speaker 2: So for me, this is gold. I agree, and we're
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  Speaker 2: sitting it was great. We're sitting there looking at this
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  Speaker 2: and we're like, this has to be the lead. We
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  Speaker 2: have to open this thing up with with that, you know,
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  Speaker 2: because that's what gets you going. And that's how he
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  Speaker 2: introduced himself to his team, and I think that's how
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  Speaker 2: we introduced the We decided how we should introduce the
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  Speaker 2: video to the people.
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  Speaker 3: It's credit to Rabel and football because I know as
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  Speaker 3: a coach that's a very important moment, like to what
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  Speaker 3: you're setting the tone for your team. This is I
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  Speaker 3: can understand completely why a team and a coach would
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  Speaker 3: not want cameras in there. So I think it was
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  Speaker 3: great that they allowed that access and I know fans
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  Speaker 3: like me eat that up.
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  Speaker 6: It's great stuff.
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  Speaker 4: Do you think he like rehearses it the night before?
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  Speaker 4: I think in the mirror maybe, Like I don't know,
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  Speaker 4: but I was genuinely curious because it seemed like he yeah,
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  Speaker 4: there's no stumbles, there was no like. It was like
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  Speaker 4: very he knew exactly what he wanted to say.
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  Speaker 2: He's probably heard it from other coaches a million times
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  Speaker 2: and he's done it before. Yeah, but I'm sure he
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  Speaker 2: thinks about what he's going to say and goes over it.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, Yeah, I think he clearly had some
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  Speaker 7: bullet pills that he was going off with.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I really liked that part too.
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  Speaker 7: And like Fred said, we've been you know, Fred and
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  Speaker 7: I have been around for hundred years, so pretty much
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  Speaker 7: all of this stuff we've done in some iteration or
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  Speaker 7: another over the years.
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  Speaker 6: I don't ever recall this.
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  Speaker 7: If we've had cameras in a team meeting, which I
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  Speaker 7: don't think we have, we've certainly never seen it. So
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  Speaker 7: that was the part that really stood out to me.
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  Speaker 7: Was Wow, So okay, so that's what it's like, that
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  Speaker 7: first team meeting. You know, it's it's kind of like
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  Speaker 7: when you were playing high school sports and your coach said,
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  Speaker 7: you know, this is what you do, and if you're
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  Speaker 7: not going to be at practice, you need to call it.
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  Speaker 6: You know, it's the most like the most basic.
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  Speaker 2: Paul, I still don't have your emergency and your user for.
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  Speaker 6: Your compliance forms and all that stuff you have to
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  Speaker 6: turn in.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: The other part, to me, though, I thought was really
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  Speaker 3: interesting was just seeing the interactions in the draft room
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  Speaker 3: between Cowden, Wolf and Vrabel to see what that dynamic
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  Speaker 3: is like and how it's developing. That that's been a
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  Speaker 3: big talking point this offseason. That that was another part
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: that weighing trade offers, how does it and I mean
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: it seem like it was working pretty well. You know,
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: it's three GM type guys trying to figure what they
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: want to do.
• 15:06
  Speaker 7: So that was the other part in that part, you know,
• 15:08
  Speaker 7: in that intro, I would also say that some of
• 15:12
  Speaker 7: the b role that we played while Mike was talking
• 15:15
  Speaker 7: of like in the weight room and some of that
• 15:17
  Speaker 7: stuff was great, great footage, great stuff, stuff that we've
• 15:20
  Speaker 7: been able to shoot, but again not necessarily been able
• 15:24
  Speaker 7: to show well.
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: With Bill. We would never allowed in the weight room
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: very rarely, no, but we've been we had to be
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: like really tight on a guy.
• 15:30
  Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, and this that's why I said,
• 15:33
  Speaker 7: I thought this was really good footage in the background.
• 15:36
  Speaker 6: So yeah, my only you said, like what we liked,
• 15:39
  Speaker 6: but we didn't like.
• 15:39
  Speaker 7: My only critique basically would just be the length of
• 15:43
  Speaker 7: I've heard the different things and like even the meaning
• 15:46
  Speaker 7: I think was like over seven minutes, whereas I think
• 15:49
  Speaker 7: you kind of got an idea of where they were going.
• 15:52
  Speaker 6: But I mean, I think Mike is right.
• 15:54
  Speaker 7: I think if you're a Patriots fan and you're watching this,
• 15:56
  Speaker 7: this is like a real peak behind the kurt to
• 16:00
  Speaker 7: all these things that we've never really been able to
• 16:02
  Speaker 7: see and experience.
• 16:03
  Speaker 6: I thought it was great.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's funny because like we've had, we
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: had so many planning sessions, you know, to do this,
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: and you know, how much footage do we have and
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: we're guessing, like, you know, how how long is this
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: thing going to be? You know, it was everything from
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: forty five minutes to two hours, you know, and you
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: get so it's the first time like we were able
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: to do this and you're making decisions like what should
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: we take out, what should we leave in? And we
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: kind of made the decision. It's like, leave most of
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: it in. It's the first time for us and the fans.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: If we if we do this again next year, which
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: we probably will, we probably will edit it down a
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: little bit more because you're not going to have another
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: seven minutes of Mike Rabel in the first team meeting. Yeah,
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: you know, you either cut that down or you do
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: something else. But for the first time, it was like
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: leave it in.
• 16:48
  Speaker 6: Yeah, give the fans what we have, sure, you know,
• 16:52
  Speaker 6: And yeah.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: It was seventy two minute I think runtime, which is
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: long in today's day and age for people's attention spans.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: But I think that's fine. Yeah, that's fine. More in
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: this case, I think more was better because it's the
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: first time.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: I think it comes at the right time too, because,
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: let's face the Patriots fans a little bit of a
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: crisis of confidence right now in the team and the
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: operation and how things have been going in the last
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: couple of years. And now to show a glimpse of
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: a head coach who's been a head coach before and
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: knows what he wants to do and comes prepared, I
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: think it's reassuring and bring some of that confidence back
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: that all right, this team knows what they're trying to do.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: They brought in the kind of players that all have
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: a type, and it just it makes sense. I keep
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: hearing that on everything Paul shows, our stupid podcast that
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: we listen to like everybody. Just it just makes sense
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: what they've done. Now we'll it all come together and work.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: It's been on Drake May don't know. It's a chemistry
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: experiment as always, but I think it feels like the
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: people who know football and are here and have a
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: system in place that.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: That should do.
• 17:47
  Speaker 6: You think it needed a narrator, I personally, you do,
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: I do, But.
• 17:52
  Speaker 9: I think it could have helped really yeah, okay transitions,
• 17:56
  Speaker 9: yeah yeah, and it didn't have to be it didn't
• 18:00
  Speaker 9: have to be hard knock style or the narrator's talking constantly.
• 18:03
  Speaker 9: But like it, like Paul said, you know some of
• 18:05
  Speaker 9: the transitions or.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: I to me, it's either you've got a narrator or
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: you don't. Like if you just use it like in
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: here and there, then it's like, well why didn't you
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: use it over here? So I don't know. I thought
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: it was okay without a narrator. I get, I get
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: what the transitions could have been a little bit more
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: like in the beginning, we heard like, oh, what's you
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: know you're use when you're using the symbolism of building
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: a foundation, And it would have been nice to tell
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: people what that actually was, because we know what it was.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: It's the new training facility that's opening next to April.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: But you know, we've had so far half a million
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: people worldwide that have watched this thing on YouTube alone
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: and they don't know what that is. So like, it's
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: great to have symbolism, but in this case, it really
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: was something. And I don't know, maybe we should have
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: used at least a graphic to say, if you're.
• 18:56
  Speaker 7: Weren't going to do a narrator, then yeah, maybe a
• 18:59
  Speaker 7: little bit more graphics just so let people know. But
• 19:02
  Speaker 7: this is all nitpicking, And first of all, it's the
• 19:04
  Speaker 7: first time we've done something of this scope, right, and
• 19:07
  Speaker 7: I think all internally, yeah, yeah, yeah, and this was
• 19:12
  Speaker 7: I think I'd be stunned if we get much negativity
• 19:17
  Speaker 7: from any fans that watch this, you know, in terms
• 19:20
  Speaker 7: of like whelmingly but what a bunch of crap content,
• 19:23
  Speaker 7: Like I can't imagine that anybody that that's a Patriots
• 19:26
  Speaker 7: fan watches this and says that's no good.
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: Now, could it be better? Always?
• 19:31
  Speaker 7: I mean there's no such thing as a perfect you know,
• 19:33
  Speaker 7: everyone has their taste and perfect piece of content.
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, my personal favorite part was all the scouting meetings obviously,
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: and like hearing them talk about prospects. And when we
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: went to the Senior Bowl, I had a conversation with
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: no Socks and I remember him saying, like, if we
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: can just get them talking about one guy that we
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: actually draft, like that's.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: All we need multiple and and we.
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: I spent like an hour with No Socks and our
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: and Bradley and they're going over different prospects and like
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: who could be the one guy? And to hear one
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: of our scouts I think it might have been Tucker
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: say Kyle Williams's name. I was like, that's so cool,
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: Like that's that was so that was one hundred percent authentic.
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: That wasn't like we faked it, and like, you know,
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: six months later we put that in like that was
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: one hundred percent real. In the moment he said that
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: Kyle Williams was the best receiver at the Senior Bowl
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: and then we ended up drafting him, you know, five
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: months later, Like that's that was really cool. And all
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: those guys deserve a ton of credit for what goes
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: into this whole draft process, and it was cool to
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: give them some shine. You know, some of our scouts
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: Matt Evans and j T. Hill and Tucker and all
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: those guys that, uh do a really good job. And
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: they also listened to us f YI, so they they
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: they're fans of the show as well, but they it's
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: of course, of course, but yeah, they they do a
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: great job, and you know, it's cool to see that
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: their work kind of behind the scenes a little bit,
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: and like that drive from the hotel to the stadium,
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: Like I've made that same drive now two years in
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: a row, and like they that was all authentic and real,
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: which I thought was cool. We didn't like just film it,
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: you know a couple of weeks ago and say, oh,
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: say Kyle Williams, you know, like that was real?
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: No, it was, and we got lucky.
• 21:20
  Speaker 6: Yeah, we got lucky.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, there you did.
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: You did you think Kyle Webs was the best receiver.
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: I thought it was between him and Jalen Knowl from
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: Iowa State. I thought both those guys had really good weeks.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: We joked about with Kyle Williams. They go in alphabetical order,
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: so Williams is obviously last, so he was the last
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: one to rep in every single drill, every single one
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: on one. So I feel like he kind of got
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: like lost a little bit because of that. You know,
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: some people had moved their eyes on to something different
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: or something. But what's cool about how the way they
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: do it is they have so many scouts that each
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: scout gets a position, so it's like somebody's focus is
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: on wide receiver. So all they're doing all day is
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: watching the wide receivers, whereas you know, we have to
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: watch everything, you know, try to watch everything. So it
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: was it was cool, but he definitely had a good
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: Senior Bowl week and then we had the footage to
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: kind of like prove it, you know that he had
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: a good week. And we also had cam talking about
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: Will Campbell. I think that was at the combine, right that, uh,
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: that footage of him talking about Will Campbell.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: Will Campbell, we kind of knew, right.
• 22:28
  Speaker 7: Well, why can't I think of the Florida State defensive
• 22:31
  Speaker 7: as a farmer?
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Joshua? Yeah, yeah, that multiple.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: They were sitting the three of them, Elliott, Wolf, Rabel
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: and Cowden We're sitting like at the fifty yard line
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: inside the stadium down there and mobile the three of
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: them together, and uh. And I think I said at
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: one point like, oh, it'd be cool to be in
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: on that conversation. And someone said to me, we we
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: are on that conversation and that those are the things
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: that they were obviously talking about, and that that was
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: really cool. I mean, that's that's what we're all doing.
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: We're just sitting there watching and talking about players and.
• 23:05
  Speaker 7: Behind the scenes scouting stuff. I agree with Evan was
• 23:07
  Speaker 7: really good. There was a couple of little individual things
• 23:11
  Speaker 7: that pop up from time to time that I thought
• 23:13
  Speaker 7: were great, and one of them that really stood out
• 23:15
  Speaker 7: to me was having you know, when we went to
• 23:18
  Speaker 7: the to the the NFL free agency, you know, not
• 23:22
  Speaker 7: the college stuff, the NFL free agent additions, and then
• 23:25
  Speaker 7: having Jamar Chase talk about Carlton Davis being the toughest
• 23:29
  Speaker 7: corner and he went against you faced him a couple
• 23:31
  Speaker 7: of times.
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: That's fantastic stuff.
• 23:34
  Speaker 7: And you know, to have that included in that piece,
• 23:37
  Speaker 7: I thought Adams to.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Get Carlton Davis's reaction, yeah, yeah, Yeah, that was really good.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: I hadn't seen that no happened.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: If you were a Patriots fan that like the last
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: game of the season, they won, and you just turn
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: the TV off and then you wake up now and
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: you flip that on like there's an hour and whatever,
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: like catch.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: You right up.
• 23:53
  Speaker 6: You know everything that happened. You were right there for
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: every single moment.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: So I think the only way you could disappoint fans
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: is if you over promise an under the burden said
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: we've got all kinds of access and then you didn't.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Really, but this delivered all the pressures on, right, Yeah,
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: now the pressures on. Everyone expects another one and to
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: be as good, if not better.
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah. The other part that I really liked was the
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: Stefan Diggs like kind of reveal, because it was building
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: up to that where it was like, well, yeah, they
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: got all these pieces on defense, but they kind of
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: need that that star receiver, and then it's just Diggs.
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: It's like that, you know, kind of gives you goosebumps.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: You're like there you go, like that's what that's what
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: we were looking for. So that was really cool as well.
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: But for me, the scouting stuff was gold, Like I
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: wish that I could see the raw footage right, you don't.
• 24:40
  Speaker 6: Just cut out the middle man and just do it.
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: What are you doing, scouts.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: That's what you want to do.
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: No, you're gonna get me that.
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: Fred's the kingmaker. You could get this done well.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Listen.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: I would like that we talk about this is probably
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: Evan's pick, like we're analyzing, like.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Right, oh, here we go again.
• 25:05
  Speaker 7: This guy break news ever again.
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: You might have to bring up with Bart fired immediately.
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: It's not gonna work anymore. I've got too many things
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: that I know.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Hamps just says, big no on the narrator. I don't
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: want to be told what I'm seeing. Yeah, that's that's
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: not exactly what they do if you do it right.
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's not what the narrator to may.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: I've had a couple of times with projects that I've
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: worked on, like do you need a narrator?
• 25:27
  Speaker 6: You don't, and I just some things needed.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: I just don't want it to ever be a crutch where,
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: you know, instead of being able to show, you have
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: to tell you other than a.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: Graphic here and that I don't think this needed it.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: I didn't. I you know, like now I'm close to it.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: I watched it a million times, you know, I never thought, oh,
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: we need a narrator.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: I never thought that it's hard too from your position,
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: because you you try to think how to phrase this,
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: like you know so much so you don't know like
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: what's in there? What is and so like something like
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: the training facility. Like for me, when I was watching initially,
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: I'm like, that's the training I just knew.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: I didn't.
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: It didn't really cur to me that people outside would
• 26:01
  Speaker 6: be like, I have no idea say.
• 26:02
  Speaker 7: I stepped back and I was talking to Fred about
• 26:04
  Speaker 7: this a little bit, and I just said, I pretended
• 26:07
  Speaker 7: I'm I don't work here right when I watched it,
• 26:10
  Speaker 7: I'm just and I The first thing I wrote in
• 26:12
  Speaker 7: my notes was what is this?
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: With a question mark.
• 26:14
  Speaker 7: I didn't know that this was the introductory team meeting,
• 26:18
  Speaker 7: and I didn't know that the construction was actual construction
• 26:21
  Speaker 7: taking place in Foxborough because I'm trying to pretend I'm
• 26:25
  Speaker 7: not here every day, knowing that that building is going
• 26:27
  Speaker 7: up right behind where I park every day, you know
• 26:30
  Speaker 7: what I mean? So that's and it didn't Friend's right.
• 26:32
  Speaker 7: It doesn't have to be a narrator. It could be graphics.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Michelle who loves it when I call her Shalata.
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: Oh, good to hear from you, Michelle.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: She thought it was amazing. In caps, right around the
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: eighteen minute mark, there's a sequence where Rabel is coaching
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: at the Texans where he tells Brown, who's coming off
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: the field, Brown, to go over to his teammate and
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: tell him that he did a great job. That split
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: second got me so high. Let's f and go go.
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: You can't get tired, guys, you can't taut.
• 27:02
  Speaker 7: Fantastic footage the Houston stuff on the sideline when Mike
• 27:06
  Speaker 7: was there, Like really, really, I'm glad that Michelle brought
• 27:10
  Speaker 7: that up.
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: How did we get that footage?
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: Like that's the NFL film NFL they produced that that's
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: been out there.
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: Got it?
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, it reminded me of I heard Gino Arima
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: ari Arima uh miked up at a practice and he
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: was telling his teams like the best players don't get tired.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: They just don't get tired, right, And I was like, yeah,
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: that kind of resonates with me, Like the best guys
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: they always the big moments.
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: Those are the guys that still have the juice to go.
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: You can't tap out. It's so funny.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: We don't have the guys. But then he goes and
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: makes it play.
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: It's pretty cool.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah he did.
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I watched it with Jess, which was cool because,
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: like the Paul's point, like, you know, we know everything right,
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: like we're really close to it, so it's always cool
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: to get like her reactions. And she she loved it.
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: I think the only thing that she said, you know,
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: she consumes all of our our content, and so some
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: of the stuff like she had already seen from like
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: you know, Digs his first day in Campbell's first day
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: and things like that. But other than that, you know,
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: she's sat there for the entire seventy two minutes and
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: watched it with me.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: So and again that's the thing you have to remember
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: that we see everything. Yea, so we're jaded, but most
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: of the people who watch this they hadn't seen all
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: that stuff.
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and she knew it. Maybe she knew what the
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: practice facility was just because I've talked about it. And
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: it's good we've talked about it.
• 28:23
  Speaker 7: But we're jaded, Mike. But even I didn't want rain
• 28:25
  Speaker 7: on anyone's parade. I enjoyed it.
• 28:28
  Speaker 6: Plus for friends with weather, it was it's more a
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: weather thing.
• 28:31
  Speaker 7: No, it's it's it's good stuff. And I mean, I'm
• 28:34
  Speaker 7: kind of a sucker for the documentaries. I like documentaries
• 28:37
  Speaker 7: in general, me too, but I mean, I like what
• 28:40
  Speaker 7: we did, and I hope we can do more stuff
• 28:42
  Speaker 7: like it.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: I feel like the hard part, Fred is now that
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of access and footage behind the scenes,
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: and you're putting out a lot of stuff. It's how
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: to balance what we've already released with what's going to
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: be new.
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: Footage, and you know, just the balance.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Of not you know, well we put out holding things back,
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: Holding some things back, but all right, yes we did
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: put this out on social already, but we're gonna put it,
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: you know, like the balancing act of all the footage.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: And that'd be like what my one nitpick is, like,
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: how do It's kind of exactly what just said, like,
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: how do you balance you know, we've already put this
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: in Will Campbell's first day.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: Well, I'll give you an example. Yeah, just on Tuesday,
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: when I was having my moment, you were telling me
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: about Morgan Moses speaking from the the you know, I
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: you know, unfortunately all the media was there, so everyone
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: saw that. So we were having a meeting yesterday. Go
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: we're filming every practice right in these OTAs and they're like, yeah,
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: I go, Okay, let's hope we can get some other
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: stuff that people haven't seen that they allow us to use.
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like on these closed days if they're out there longer,
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: maybe like going and doing stuff like that.
• 29:48
  Speaker 7: I know by the way that Mike and I were
• 29:49
  Speaker 7: walking off the field together and I before I left,
• 29:53
  Speaker 7: when you guys are getting ready to do the show
• 29:54
  Speaker 7: on Tuesday, I said, you saw that Will Campbell Morgan
• 29:57
  Speaker 7: Moses thing.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: Right, that's I go, that's it. That's that's the thing,
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: that's goal. Will you'll be pat proud and Paul that
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: my two headlines. Fred was sitting in here all alone
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: at this desk doing it, and I said my two
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: takeaways were Drake Ray through four interceptions and Will Campbell
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: and Morgan Moses having drinks Kindred spirits, Kindred Spirits. Everybody
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: was like you could feel the buzz, like because interviews
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: are going on at the podiums after practice, but no
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: one was on.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, we were all here and when he came
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: in and we interviewed him, the same thing. We're all
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: thinking the same thing. This guy is a leader. This
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: guy he's a pied piper in a good way. I mean,
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: you know when Randy Moss was here, he was a
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: pied piper, but you had to worry where he was
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: leading people. This guy's going to put him on the
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: right track. And it's so great to see that he's
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: already in that role. Yeah, like it took him no
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: time to be in that role.
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: I feel like he's going to be a captain. Like
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: I really feel like he's on that track right now.
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: And it was it was cool to see. And it's
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: one of those things too from a media perspective, like
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: we're not really least supposed to take pictures of the
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: field in that window like after practice, but so many
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: people were going up to pr being like can we
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: we got to take pictures of this like this, Yeah,
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: so that's why, Yeah, everybody got there, okay, But there
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: was also you know, over to the other side, just
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: Kyle Williams and Ft and Chisholm were catching balls on
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: the judge machine right after practice for maybe ten fifteen minutes,
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: and Kyle Williams was catching them one handed, like just
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: like on purpose, like he was trying to he was
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: practicing that, and so he was catching one handed passes
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: with his right hand, just over and over and over again.
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: And uh, it just it seems like there's a bunch
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: of different guys that were doing that in the back.
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: I couldn't see who it was, but a couple of
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: the pass rushers were still doing stuff, you know, in
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: the back of the field, and like there was there
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: was good work ethic there, like you could feel, you know,
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: some urgency.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, get the extra work. Funny.
• 31:53
  Speaker 6: I after seeing that picture, I was inspired.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: To go back and look at I was just curious,
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: curious look at Morgan Mo's's scouting report.
• 31:59
  Speaker 6: I was just I wanted to because we spent so
• 32:01
  Speaker 6: much time talking about Will Campbell.
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: First of all, is like I didn't realize he had
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: thirty five and three eighth inch arms, so I know
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: a lot. Another thing that some people talked about were
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: Will Campbell looked, you know, a little small out there.
• 32:11
  Speaker 6: His shoulders looked a little bit.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: His shoulders are narrow.
• 32:14
  Speaker 6: But it was kno, going to lot. It's also in comparison, yeah, no,
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: I know.
• 32:18
  Speaker 7: But it's like when you see him on the field
• 32:20
  Speaker 7: next to everybody, like it stands out.
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and I think Fred's right.
• 32:26
  Speaker 7: I think that's why his arms are shorter, you know,
• 32:29
  Speaker 7: because I think he has a narrower base.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: It's exacerbated though by like Marcus Bryant, who you know,
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: is like a statue of a man, and then Morgan Moses,
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: who is also just has the ideal length. But point
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: I was trying to make was reading his scouting report.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: It's nothing like, Oh, what a phenomenal leader.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: This guy.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: It's like takes plays off like you know, if he can,
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: if he can get in shape and pull it together,
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: he'll be good. And there's just a reminder to me
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: that there's there's gems out there, there's guys you know
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: that that can develop.
• 32:54
  Speaker 6: And he arrives here as a leader.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: And I don't want to call him a savior, but
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: I think some people are like God, it's just some stability,
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: you know, I think. And that to me, like looking
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: in the Jets sign him last year, tough free agent deal,
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: and it's like, man, I like that have been a
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: move to make last year and actually tackle.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Zach and Connecticut. I agree with Fred about having no narrator.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: I think it would have been worse having someone tell
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: us what we're seeing. I do think it did drag
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: on the transition a little bit, but just a nitpick. Also,
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: will the Washington Joint practices be available to the public
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: if they will, Yeah, go to those guys.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: If you are looking to go to a preseason game
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: or do something this summer of the Patriots, come here
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: for the Commanders Joint practice.
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: That's a great one talent.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: You're not gonna have to pay a bunch of money,
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: and you know it just come free, fun for the family,
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: and you get to watch great football, situational stuff and
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: the talent on I guess Terry McLaurin, though I guess
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: he's holding out that I heard that yesterday.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: Good them.
• 33:50
  Speaker 6: You get it all into playing that can happened to
• 33:52
  Speaker 6: other teams were, but we're not playing them.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: So Robert writes in after watching the feature, I wanted
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: to suit up and hit the field, unfortunately, and fit
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: fifty six, and I'd snapped in half if I tackled anyone.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Great production, But as Paul referred to, I was wondering
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: what structure was being built. While it did finally dawn
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: on me that it was the new training center. It
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: might have been helpful to have some text on the
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: screen describing what it was. I vote no on a narrator.
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm I'm coming around on the narrator thing.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: Well, like maybe it was just text, I would.
• 34:21
  Speaker 6: Just good and to jump on the thing.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: But I was just gonna say, like, I can see
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: a way you could have done it where you're talking
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: about what's the final product going to look like? And
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: then you know, Mike Rabel may be saying what we
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: want the final product, and then compare that to what
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: the final product at the training center, Like there's got
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: to be some kind of.
• 34:36
  Speaker 6: Metaphor that you could kind of use in there without
• 34:38
  Speaker 6: having a yeah, And I had that like the whole thing.
• 34:41
  Speaker 7: I had like a quick sentence, you know, much like
• 34:43
  Speaker 7: you know.
• 34:45
  Speaker 6: But I got to do with the Leev Schreiber voice.
• 34:48
  Speaker 7: I'm a little like curious as to why so many
• 34:50
  Speaker 7: people are anti narrative, right, not because it's counted to
• 34:53
  Speaker 7: what I'm saying, Because yeah, when I watched like The
• 34:58
  Speaker 7: Football Lives and you know, those different documents, you know,
• 35:03
  Speaker 7: I find the narrator to be a big part of my.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well you have to watch the experience. Yeah, you
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: have to build it that way, and absolutely like, as
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: a matter of fact, our lead editor, Nick McCain, has
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: an amazing voice. He could do like he could absolutely
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: do it himself. If you is the voice of God,
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: if we needed a narrator, we've got one.
• 35:21
  Speaker 6: I met him, he's got it.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: I shook his hand as I met him. He said hello,
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: and I said, have you done voiceover work?
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: He did it for the sixers. He read like Christmas
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: books and stuff like that for thinking for kids.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: So we've got them. We'll figure out how to get
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: his voice in there.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: He did a voiceover for something I don't remember what internally,
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: and it like it was him, but it was even
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: more polished, Like I didn't even realize when he actually
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: tried how good it could sound. I mean it was like, yeah,
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: I was telling him. I'm like, that's the best job.
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: To me in Hollywood, the best jobs are the voiceover people.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: They show up, they dress in sweatpants, they'd sit in
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: front of a microphone for four hours, and then they
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: go home.
• 35:55
  Speaker 6: Now nobody knows who they are. They make a ton
• 35:57
  Speaker 6: of money. That to me is the dream gig.
• 35:59
  Speaker 7: So I was surprised, Like, you know, there's two or
• 36:02
  Speaker 7: three people that said, you know, I don't want to.
• 36:03
  Speaker 7: The last thing I want is a narrator telling me
• 36:05
  Speaker 7: what I'm watching. Oh so I'd rather not know what
• 36:07
  Speaker 7: I'm watching.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: That's not what they do, that's not what the.
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: Well I was like, Obviously we're gonna get compared to
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: Hard Knocks, like for you know, the football thing. But
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: to me, this is more like Behind the Bee than
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: it is Hard Knocks. And Behind the Bee is fantastic too.
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: But they have Dennis Leary, who's a Boston guy, as
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: a narrator, and that was all I think what we
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: were kind of thinking of. But this is this is
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: on track to be exactly like you're Behind the Bees.
• 36:32
  Speaker 6: Maybe in a shorter show.
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, behind the bea helps move things along a little more,
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: and you don't Yeah you don't get twenty three minutes
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: in the thirty minute.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: That might be that might be wide Justin says the
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: second Morgan moses pancakes a guy. All we're going to
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: hear is father Fred saying, oh Morgan, yeah you got
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: that right, you got that right. I'll be watching the
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: old line.
• 36:53
  Speaker 6: So he turns it to Kram.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: You got that right, I do love.
• 36:56
  Speaker 6: They'll give him last rites on the field that'll be different.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: There you go. Now everybody's watching the So did you workshop?
• 37:04
  Speaker 6: I heard you know, did you just workshop?
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: This whole thing worked out? I have a long commute pole.
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: So that's what in case you didn't know it was.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: It was good.
• 37:13
  Speaker 7: I didn't know if that was something that someone wrote in.
• 37:15
  Speaker 7: I mean that was that was just part of just
• 37:17
  Speaker 7: count obviously.
• 37:18
  Speaker 6: I mean I love that. And he was a damn
• 37:19
  Speaker 6: good one.
• 37:20
  Speaker 7: That was my my favorite company was a damn good one.
• 37:22
  Speaker 7: And that and he owed Chicago. He wanted to get
• 37:25
  Speaker 7: back to Chicago.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: And you know Claire, hello everyone, Aliver in Hell. She
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: said she has an idea for Chicago, Pope. The conclusion
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: is it turns out he's actually a long term undercover
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: cup to crack major crimes at the very top of
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: the church hierarchy. And Father Fred actually a father and
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: could finally bed the hot nun.
• 37:46
  Speaker 6: Oh that is a good twist that he's not.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Actually that was get get to know her in a
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: biblical sense. Man, we're so sackrindgious.
• 38:04
  Speaker 6: To turn it to an Irish Yeah. Wow, you know
• 38:07
  Speaker 6: Father Fred Megan with Grandma.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yesh Dana, Virginia and Michigan on podcasts at Patriots
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: dot Com. We all know that Fred is great and impressions,
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: but I didn't know he could do an impression of
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: Meg Ryan. On Tuesday Show, when Deuce and Evan were
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: describing that Morgan Moses was holding court with Campbell, the
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: other offensive lineman, Fred started to sound like that scene
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: in the coffee shop when Harry met Sally. I'll have
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: what Fred's having. I'm having Morgan.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: Yes, I was surprised, but it's good reason. I mean,
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: I think we're all a little beaten down from the
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: tackle struggles of the last five years, and we're all
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: excited to hopefully put that to rest and maybe get
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: that as a position of stability, like.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: The offensive line now, Morgan, all right, eight five five
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: pats five hundred is the a Sticke and Hut line.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: We're having fun here talking Forge and Foxborg, We're talking
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: O two were talking just about anything. Let's go to
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: Todd in Gardner.
• 39:07
  Speaker 10: Hey, Todd, Hey guys, how are you doing?
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: Keeps changing?
• 39:12
  Speaker 10: It's been a great show.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: A little bit of I.
• 39:16
  Speaker 10: Don't want I'm just a little bit against the whole
• 39:18
  Speaker 10: thing that this team is going to do. Basically, as
• 39:22
  Speaker 10: Mac progresses, because I think when we first got Brady,
• 39:25
  Speaker 10: Brady was allowed to progress at his own pace and
• 39:27
  Speaker 10: it won't speed because the team around him could give
• 39:29
  Speaker 10: him that comfort level of being in there and you know,
• 39:32
  Speaker 10: being able to make mistakes. I think that our guys
• 39:36
  Speaker 10: gonna but not I'm just entire sorry, guys, it's been
• 39:39
  Speaker 10: doing immigration stuff.
• 39:40
  Speaker 11: My brain is bride.
• 39:42
  Speaker 10: But Drake May is gonna evolve based on the opportunities
• 39:46
  Speaker 10: given and with this defense and what we've got around him,
• 39:49
  Speaker 10: you know, I think he'll be able to make the mistakes,
• 39:52
  Speaker 10: do the stuff that he needs to learn, because I
• 39:53
  Speaker 10: don't think it's all going to be on him. And
• 39:55
  Speaker 10: I just you know, I've heard this a couple of times.
• 39:57
  Speaker 10: It's the whole season's all based on his progression. I
• 39:59
  Speaker 10: think there's some part to that, but I think it's
• 40:02
  Speaker 10: too much focused just on that. What do you guys think?
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: All right?
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Thanks? Now listen. I know everyone has to play their part,
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: but it does rest a lot on his progression. And
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: I disagree a little bit with what Todd said about
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: Brady the day he stepped on the field. It was
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: hammered into do not turn the ball over. I mean,
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: don't turn the don't make mistakes. It wasn't go ahead
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: and make mistakes and we'll we'll, we'll give you a
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: long landing, you know, don't turn the ball over.
• 40:35
  Speaker 7: He was largely responsible for the turnaround. I mean, it's
• 40:38
  Speaker 7: right again, there is no bigger Drew Bledsoe fan than me.
• 40:42
  Speaker 7: When Drew played, they were five and thirteen. When Brady
• 40:46
  Speaker 7: came in, it was fourteen and three. Like it happened immediately.
• 40:50
  Speaker 7: And yes, the team was good. The team around Brady
• 40:54
  Speaker 7: was good. But Brady's what Fred just said, Brady's inability
• 40:59
  Speaker 7: to turn the ball over. I mean, what did you
• 41:00
  Speaker 7: go like four games before even threw a pick?
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 41:03
  Speaker 6: You know? Then he threw four and one quarter in Denver.
• 41:05
  Speaker 7: But you know that was largely the reason why that
• 41:09
  Speaker 7: team was successful was because the mistakes that Drew was
• 41:12
  Speaker 7: making were eliminated when Brady went in.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And just like more recently, Washington doesn't do what
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: they did last year without Jayden Daniels being basically almost
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: an MVP candidate as a rookie. Now, nobody's expecting Drake
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: to be an MVP candidate. But the point is is
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: that that, unfortunately is the pressure of being the quarterback
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: like that it's on his shoulders.
• 41:33
  Speaker 6: And I would just say it's not.
• 41:34
  Speaker 7: I don't think people are saying that it's all reliant
• 41:37
  Speaker 7: on Drake May's progression, but the ceiling, but the ceiling,
• 41:41
  Speaker 7: but Drake made doesn't progress, then they're going to be
• 41:43
  Speaker 7: average at best. Right And I don't care how good
• 41:45
  Speaker 7: the team is, they'll be average at best because you
• 41:47
  Speaker 7: need the quarterback to get you to another level. And
• 41:50
  Speaker 7: I also don't think as much as I'm really happy
• 41:52
  Speaker 7: and excited we just talked about forging Fox Bowl and
• 41:55
  Speaker 7: all the things that they added, whether it be in
• 41:57
  Speaker 7: free agency or the draft, you ain't get that much
• 42:00
  Speaker 7: better that it's not going to matter if the quarterback
• 42:04
  Speaker 7: isn't isn't making a progression. You know, it's not like
• 42:07
  Speaker 7: they're just stacked across the board. We've seen the Jets
• 42:09
  Speaker 7: and Brad Johnson and the Buccaneers, like the Jets have
• 42:12
  Speaker 7: had some teams the last year or two that have
• 42:14
  Speaker 7: been pretty good in a lot of areas, but the
• 42:16
  Speaker 7: quarterback is holding it back and they go five and
• 42:18
  Speaker 7: eleven or five or whatever, five and twelve.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: I guess.
• 42:21
  Speaker 7: So you can be really good, but if your quarterback
• 42:25
  Speaker 7: play isn't at least average, You're going to be sort
• 42:29
  Speaker 7: of ye fighting, fighting an uphill battle.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: Randy's in Providence. What's up, Randy? Randy?
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: Randy?
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: Come on, it hasn't been that long. All right, you're gone? Hello,
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: what's going on? Turn up your Internet?
• 42:47
  Speaker 11: Sorry, well that I hit a mute button on accident.
• 42:51
  Speaker 11: I had a couple questions for you guys at the
• 42:54
  Speaker 11: end of the season last season, maybe if the off
• 42:57
  Speaker 11: season was starting, there's been a lot of talk about
• 43:00
  Speaker 11: shortage of kind of support staff.
• 43:03
  Speaker 10: Uh, the staff.
• 43:04
  Speaker 12: Overall just being a lot smaller in New England than
• 43:07
  Speaker 12: it is in other places, maybe with the analytics department,
• 43:12
  Speaker 12: but other areas also.
• 43:14
  Speaker 10: And I didn't know.
• 43:15
  Speaker 12: If you guys knew if that staff was also being
• 43:17
  Speaker 12: built out, Like obviously we hear all the coaching changes
• 43:20
  Speaker 12: and news and stuff like that, but you guys know
• 43:23
  Speaker 12: if that is being addressed.
• 43:25
  Speaker 11: And then did you guys see the top twenty five
• 43:28
  Speaker 11: under twenty five lists put out by PFF.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: Yes, top under twenty five, yeah.
• 43:34
  Speaker 11: Top twenty five.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: Being yeah that someone's very upset on the by week
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: one okay.
• 43:43
  Speaker 12: But no Gonzales and no May and you got the
• 43:46
  Speaker 12: prized by that.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: And then I dismissed the list.
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: I don't Drake may not be on there. He doesn't
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: belong on right, Christian Gonzales belongs on the list.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: Christian Gonzales, I think you can make a strong argument.
• 43:56
  Speaker 11: Yeah, one hundred percent agreed.
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 43:58
  Speaker 11: And then last question for you guys. Someone I think
• 44:01
  Speaker 11: it was Alex Maybe had mentioned that cool Strange. He
• 44:04
  Speaker 11: thought he had bulked up a little bit, gotten a
• 44:07
  Speaker 11: little bigger, maybe in response to the needs of Josh
• 44:10
  Speaker 11: McDaniels on the offensive line. Did you guys notice that?
• 44:13
  Speaker 11: And then outside of the pictures, did you guys see
• 44:15
  Speaker 11: Marvin Harrison Junior put on like twenty or twenty five
• 44:18
  Speaker 11: pounds and the guy looks like a defensive end.
• 44:21
  Speaker 6: Now, I saw the video. I saw the videos I saw.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: I wonder how we did that?
• 44:27
  Speaker 6: Is that skinless chicken?
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, twenty five it's funny say that, Randy Is.
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: I saw that video and I didn't. I didn't see
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: hear it. It just came like the video and I
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: was like, geez, he looks big.
• 44:36
  Speaker 6: So David Boston, like former Cardinals receiver.
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we talked a little bit about cold Strange yesterday
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: on Catch twenty two, and I just thought his upper
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: body maybe looked a little bit bigger. But I'm not
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: saying that he's like, all of a sudden three hundred
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: and forty pounds, but like I thought it like beer
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: he drank general a little bigger. I also thought Gonzo
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: looked jacked, so I would.
• 44:58
  Speaker 6: I'm glad you brought him out.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: Randy.
• 45:00
  Speaker 7: Two guys that I thought looked noticeably bigger, one of
• 45:02
  Speaker 7: them really positively and one of them not so positively.
• 45:05
  Speaker 6: And Gonzalez is the one I thought, I.
• 45:07
  Speaker 7: Absolutely agree with you, you know, not not to go
• 45:10
  Speaker 7: all Mike do so on you. But I was like, wow,
• 45:13
  Speaker 7: look at the size of his arms. I thought he
• 45:15
  Speaker 7: looked like I thought he had put on some some
• 45:17
  Speaker 7: bulk up top.
• 45:19
  Speaker 6: And Michael went, who I thought looked heavy?
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: Me too. Gene is a retired producer slash director out
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: of Ottawa, Canada. O uh, and he says, I think
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: it's a he I'm taking a leak there, j E A.
• 45:34
  Speaker 6: N maybe Jean Jean Jean francois.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Regarding the use of a narrator in your documentary,
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: I've always much preferred having the on camera subject tell
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: the story and using minimally on screen graphics to guide
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: the viewer. Using a narrator narrator will take away the
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: cinema verite feel of your documentary. It will become the
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: voice of big Brother telling you what they want you
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: to know. It shifts the perspective of the message you're
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: trying to deliver to your audience. Cinema verite is more believable,
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: and the audience feels less manipulated. I love it.
• 46:06
  Speaker 6: I'm back in film school.
• 46:07
  Speaker 7: Can I ask you, as as someone who's completely ignorant
• 46:10
  Speaker 7: to this stuff, what is the definition of cinema verite?
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: So?
• 46:14
  Speaker 6: I think, well, verite, truth, just realism, I would say.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: And I so you don't feel manip So it's your
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: interpretation and not the narrator.
• 46:23
  Speaker 7: So why is the narrator? First of all, it's not
• 46:25
  Speaker 7: the narrator's interpretation. It's a script.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: Well I know, but he's telling you.
• 46:28
  Speaker 7: Well okay, it's not. But it's not like telling the listener.
• 46:34
  Speaker 7: I mean telling the viewer that the construction that's going
• 46:37
  Speaker 7: on behind you is actually the new training facility.
• 46:40
  Speaker 6: Is not like leading the viewer where you wanted to go. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 46:45
  Speaker 6: it's telling the facts.
• 46:46
  Speaker 7: Well, she's talking in general, but that's all I want
• 46:48
  Speaker 7: the narrator to do. I don't want the narrator to
• 46:51
  Speaker 7: say this team is a lot better than you think
• 46:53
  Speaker 7: it is. That's not what narrators do when documentaries.
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: I think Jean Jean is maybe just saying show, don't tell.
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: That's just an an always thing that you try to do. Yeah,
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: and if you get to a point where you're like,
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: I gotta tell, But I would say, like for myself,
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: if I was an editor trying to figure that out,
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: I would be like, well, how can I tell that
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: this is what this construction project is without having to
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: have someone come in and be like that's the construction product.
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: Well, so I feel like for this one, it did
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: like the narrator maybe wasn't necessary, Maybe just graphics over
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: some of the things that Paul has talked about. Yeah,
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: but that's why I do wonder like when we go
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: into the next one, when it's like more player and
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: coach driven, you know, you kind of set it up
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: like the Bruins are preparing for the you.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: Know, but I kind of feel now that we've gone
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: the route of no narrator, you got to stick to.
• 47:40
  Speaker 7: And if you don't want the narrator, like my my
• 47:43
  Speaker 7: preference would be the narrator. But I can totally say, okay,
• 47:47
  Speaker 7: you know the people have spoken. Everybody is you know,
• 47:49
  Speaker 7: finds the net. I just don't understand why a narrator
• 47:52
  Speaker 7: giving you the facts is not true to life, but
• 47:56
  Speaker 7: the Scouts telling you their version of facts. It's yeah,
• 48:01
  Speaker 7: isn't like the Scouts and opinion of Kyle Williams. The
• 48:04
  Speaker 7: Scout's opinion, Like, how do I know that's true? But
• 48:07
  Speaker 7: I'm taking it as as the word because that's what
• 48:09
  Speaker 7: they're telling me.
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: Well, maybe as a filmmaker too, you want people to
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: take it for themselves and you know, not give them
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: try not to point arrows at things and just let
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: them be able to experience it themselves without you know,
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: letting their viewing experience be their viewing experience, without saying
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: I want to make sure that this is how you're
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: viewing it the whole time.
• 48:27
  Speaker 6: I mean, there's a way to do it both. I love
• 48:28
  Speaker 6: there's some documentaries.
• 48:29
  Speaker 7: Like my point is, this is how the patriots, the
• 48:31
  Speaker 7: twenty twenty five Patriots are being constructed in this way,
• 48:35
  Speaker 7: and the story is being told by the patriots, Like,
• 48:40
  Speaker 7: why is that true to life? That's how the patriots
• 48:43
  Speaker 7: are doing it. That's the patriots thoughts, Like there's sort
• 48:46
  Speaker 7: of a like a I don't want to say an opinion,
• 48:51
  Speaker 7: but there's sort of a viewpoint in every documentary.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not like blatant. This is the fact. It's
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: documentaries are different than just pure art. I remember having this.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: That's why, you know, an artist presents their work to
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: the world without explanation. Let the world interpret it. Don't
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: say and here's what I you know, and that's what
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: you know. A lot of artists don't. They don't give
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: you what they want to do. They let you interpret it.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: Like I can't have leaneries are different.
• 49:23
  Speaker 7: I can't have Leev Schreiber tell me what the building is,
• 49:26
  Speaker 7: but I can have what was the scout's name that
• 49:28
  Speaker 7: said about Tucker Addington? Tell me that Kyle Williams was
• 49:32
  Speaker 7: the best receiver. That's a long snapper, isn't he?
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you named the long snap, right.
• 49:38
  Speaker 7: So you know, And I like, I apologize. I don't
• 49:41
  Speaker 7: know all the scouts by name.
• 49:43
  Speaker 6: I don't.
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: We don't ever.
• 49:44
  Speaker 6: This is like the first time we've ever really gotten
• 49:46
  Speaker 6: a city.
• 49:46
  Speaker 7: Like we've never been allowed to talk to them.
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: Tucker Ingram.
• 49:50
  Speaker 7: Tucker is Ingram, Okay, so he can say that Kyle
• 49:54
  Speaker 7: Williams was the best receiver in the Senior Bowl and
• 49:56
  Speaker 7: no one has any objection. But if Leof Schreiber says
• 49:59
  Speaker 7: that building that you that we keep showing you is
• 50:01
  Speaker 7: actually the new training facility, we object to that because
• 50:05
  Speaker 7: we're leading the viewer in a way like, well, I
• 50:07
  Speaker 7: mean like to me, but I think.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: It's about what you're using.
• 50:12
  Speaker 6: A specific like the.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: Narrator would not be used for that. It would be
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: used for like others.
• 50:17
  Speaker 7: Like I had told you, like the Voice of God
• 50:19
  Speaker 7: comes in and says, much like the the new training
• 50:22
  Speaker 7: facility that's under construction behind your Lette Stadium, Mike Rabel
• 50:26
  Speaker 7: in the twenty twenty five Patriots that are a work
• 50:29
  Speaker 7: in progress or something like that.
• 50:30
  Speaker 6: I totally get what you're saying, Paul, And I think says.
• 50:33
  Speaker 7: It's not like I think the Patriots are going to
• 50:35
  Speaker 7: go twelve and five this year, right, And I just.
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: Think John has a preference of how they would like
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: to tell things. But ultimately it's the creative choice of
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: how you want to tell the story and how you
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: can best tell the story. So there's no one way
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: to do the documentaries, Like no, documentaries have to have
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: a door.
• 50:49
  Speaker 7: And that's why I would fully service take and say, hey,
• 50:52
  Speaker 7: that's just my preference and I'm not like a specific
• 50:55
  Speaker 7: fact that.
• 50:55
  Speaker 6: You want to make sure it gets across.
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: You don't want to insert a narrator in the whole
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: documentary just because there's a certain fact that you can't
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: think of a creative way to show what it is
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: and you know what the metaphor is.
• 51:05
  Speaker 6: So but I mean there were documentaries I love with narrators.
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: There are ones that I love where it's just interviews
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: and it unfolds slowly and you you know.
• 51:11
  Speaker 6: Kind of take it for what it's worth. So I mean,
• 51:12
  Speaker 6: that's you're totally right.
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: It's just a preference, and it's a preference to the
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: director and the producer, like a truth and cinema thing.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: No, yeah, but like no, you take Ken Burns for example,
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: you know Baseball, which I thought was a great documentary
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: that could not live without it. Now, writer, right, you know,
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: you had to have a narrator.
• 51:29
  Speaker 6: I love those things with like they're reading the Civil
• 51:31
  Speaker 6: War letters.
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: But no, that's I mean that's like I said, I've
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: done projects before where you're wondering, like can I do
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: like my thesis film, like what do I do new
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: narrator or not?
• 51:39
  Speaker 6: And this is what I'll have to do. If I how,
• 51:41
  Speaker 6: I'll have to explain it.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: If not so.
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: But I think probably what John's preference is is they
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: like that style. Yeah, just realism unfolding for you. I
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: expect that, and that's their their their thing. But I
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: don't think Hard Knocks would work. And certainly behind the
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: B it's too hard and too you know, in twenty
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: two minutes to tell a whole story of everything that's
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: going on without Dennis Leary.
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: So just what fits? I just felt here. He was
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: one of my professors in college, Dennis Leary Emerson comedy writer.
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: Fail, so he could be in Father Fred. I think
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: we could probably reach out to you.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: At the time he was trying to quit smoking. He
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: would literally get on the desk like a bird and
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: teach the class perched on a desk.
• 52:21
  Speaker 7: Remember like the MTB just had a teacher in high
• 52:24
  Speaker 7: school that smoked like a fiend and did exactly the
• 52:27
  Speaker 7: same thing. He would sit on his desk criss cross applesauce,
• 52:30
  Speaker 7: and when the principal would walk by the hall, he
• 52:33
  Speaker 7: would flick the cigarettes right out the window front of
• 52:35
  Speaker 7: the desk.
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: Well remember that, Like, was it MTV or something that
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: I think you hear me and I'm coming in. It's
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: just Dennis Leary sucking cigarettes down like it's a possible.
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: He was trying to quit that. He was he was
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: on something else he could He was like, I think
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: he might be the best.
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: He could be the bad guy, he could be the
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: antagonist in Father Fred. I mean, that's a high power actor.
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: He's got a little edge to him, you know, so
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: probably I think he's an Irish Catholic. Anyway, he's ready
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: to operate in.
• 52:58
  Speaker 7: Yeah, now with to Boston. That's not from Chicago.
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: Donnie Walburn has another Boston top show coming out, something
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: Boston Blue. Yeah, origin uh me and freds noo. What's up? Speed?
• 53:14
  Speaker 10: What's up?
• 53:15
  Speaker 13: Listening to you guys talk about cinema verite and the
• 53:18
  Speaker 13: art of narration and whatnot. I'm just like, man, so
• 53:21
  Speaker 13: happy Eric's not here.
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: We have the conversation. You all know nothing. That's your imagine.
• 53:29
  Speaker 7: Can you imagine if Eric just heard me, like sound
• 53:32
  Speaker 7: like a moron like about talking about what by the way,
• 53:36
  Speaker 7: I know what the words meant.
• 53:37
  Speaker 6: I wanted to know what the application to read.
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: The story to you, so just me like he doesn't
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: get it to him.
• 53:47
  Speaker 13: Then again, Eric as a narrator.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the possibility. Sure I can see it.
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely awful, awful.
• 53:57
  Speaker 7: I've often pondered construction that takes place in this world.
• 54:07
  Speaker 14: He never have ye today, no football.
• 54:17
  Speaker 13: So with May you're hoping he follows the like generally
• 54:21
  Speaker 13: the Josh Allen pattern, you're overcoming some early accuracy or
• 54:25
  Speaker 13: like physical issues in the passing game. But but he's
• 54:28
  Speaker 13: being asked to do that at the same time when
• 54:30
  Speaker 13: you got Josh McDaniels, you know, relatively complicated offense coming in,
• 54:35
  Speaker 13: and you know Josh Allen had Brian Dable for years
• 54:37
  Speaker 13: from the start. And I'm very happy that Josh McDaniels
• 54:40
  Speaker 13: is coaching Drake, But it seems like it's already challenging
• 54:43
  Speaker 13: enough to try and do the sort of Josh Allen
• 54:45
  Speaker 13: thing where you more or less fix your accuracy, and
• 54:47
  Speaker 13: now you're asking Drake to do something like that while
• 54:50
  Speaker 13: onboarding what pretty complicated playbook.
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: It's the same offense yeah. See, honestly, I don't know
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: what they're telling Drake to do, you know, like, are
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: they unloading all this stuff and making it too complex
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: right now?
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: I don't know that well, But it's the same offense,
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: Brian Dable.
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: How are they presenting it? Like at what? Like sure,
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: how much of the playbook are they into at this point?
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: But Josh Allen was running the same offense in Buffalo
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: under stable that that the Patriots are running now. So,
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: I mean Brady's talked about it that he he knows
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: Josh Allen's calls because it's the same calls that.
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: He would use.
• 55:24
  Speaker 6: Because that's digs about it, you can asks about it.
• 55:26
  Speaker 13: Yeah, So you don't think that this is more of
• 55:28
  Speaker 13: a challenge to Drake now with the change of the
• 55:30
  Speaker 13: offensive coordinator.
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: I don't know, no, I I yeah, I mean I
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: made that point earlier, But I'm just making the point
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: that if we're comparing to Josh Allen, they're they're running now,
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: they're in the same system, like did this stable system
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: and McDaniel's offense are the same offense. So if oh, okay, yeah, thanks.
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: B it's a challenge, but it's a challenge to Drake
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: like you have to, you have to acknowledge it.
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: And it's a lot on him this year, and it's
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: it's a it's a tough.
• 55:56
  Speaker 6: Challenge, no question.
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: No.
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: When Toronto says Einstein's the definition of genius is taking
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: the complex and making it simple. I worry that McDaniels
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: is making the simple, run fast, throw hard complex for Drake.
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: See I don't.
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: I just everything that he said again, And this goes
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: back to just plopping the twenty nineteen playbook and being
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: like good luck, Like I just I think Josh understands
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: that he has to teach Drake this bit by bit
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: and learning little piece at a time, and even though
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: it's a little bumpy along the way, he's not gonna
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, these guys are teachers. This is what they
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: spend all their time. How can I get my guys
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: to learn the playbook?
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: Coaching is teaching.
• 56:33
  Speaker 7: It's huge, Like that is everything to them. I think
• 56:35
  Speaker 7: that's in question. I think the playbook is not going
• 56:39
  Speaker 7: to be twenty nineteen, Like it's not going to be
• 56:42
  Speaker 7: Fred's used to use this all the time, like Tom
• 56:45
  Speaker 7: Brady is like advanced level calculus. Like it's not going
• 56:49
  Speaker 7: to start where Tom Brady ended, But the very basics
• 56:54
  Speaker 7: of the Josh Midniel lawfense requires a certain aptitude on
• 56:59
  Speaker 7: the part of the quarterback, and it's not you know,
• 57:01
  Speaker 7: this goes back to it's the air hot system that
• 57:03
  Speaker 7: Charlie Weiss brought in and all that stuff, and Brady had.
• 57:09
  Speaker 6: A very easy transition to it. He took to it
• 57:12
  Speaker 6: very easily. Not every quarterback will. I don't have any idea, well,
• 57:16
  Speaker 6: how Drake may will.
• 57:17
  Speaker 7: I'm not talking about the level of sophistication that the
• 57:20
  Speaker 7: offense wound up, but the base part of it, I
• 57:23
  Speaker 7: think is a little bit more complicated than most offenses,
• 57:25
  Speaker 7: and I don't know how that's gonna happ I wondered.
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: By putting on the quarterback everything pre snapped, Well, Evan.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: Do you know and at you and see if any
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: of his years that he was making the calls as
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: opposed to.
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: His last year, they put more on his plate in
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: terms of making protection calls and things like that. Was
• 57:43
  Speaker 4: it one hundred percent? I don't know the answer to that,
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: but he was. His coaches told me that they were
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: making a lot of the call. He was making a
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: lot of the calls and doing a lot of that
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: kind of stuff. They ran much more. His first year
• 57:55
  Speaker 4: as a starter under Phil Longo was a college style
• 57:58
  Speaker 4: air raid like it was a true college offense. And
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: when they brought in Longo's replacement, I'm blanking on his
• 58:05
  Speaker 4: name right now. When they brought him in, it became
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: more pro style, So it became more of what you
• 58:11
  Speaker 4: run in the NFL, and the quarterback had more responsibility
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: at the well, Clyde Christensen was an assistant on the staff. Yeah,
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: and so they did more of that kind of stuff
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: at North Carolina, and then last year, obviously it was
• 58:26
  Speaker 4: the center that was making all the calls in Alex
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: Van Peltz offense. So that's what I worry about a
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: little bit. I'm not saying it's like I'm panicked about it,
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: but it's just right now, that's something that I'm watching.
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: I'm watching for because I know Drake May is a
• 58:42
  Speaker 4: fantastic thrower of the football. I know he's a great athlete.
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: I know he's got all the physical tools in the
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: world to be a franchise quarterback. I don't know if
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: he's a director. I don't know if he's one of
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: those guys that is comfortable getting to the line of scrimmage,
• 58:58
  Speaker 4: sniffing things out, moving protection, you know, reconfiguring formations, getting
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: guys lined up in the right places is the easiest
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: way to say it. I don't know if he's that
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: like I don't like Brady was that, Peyton Manning was that.
• 59:10
  Speaker 4: I don't know if that's his superpower. His superpower might
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: just be the raw tools, whereas with Brady his superpower
• 59:17
  Speaker 4: was his brain.
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: And so we'll find out. We'll see.
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: I think you put that out great. I mean, that's
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: everything you said. I totally agree with. And I just
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: I just wonder if people feel like, well, Drake may
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: could be an elite quarterback, but not with this offense,
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: not with too much on him, you know, is.
• 59:32
  Speaker 7: That I go your point, Yeah, if he can't think
• 59:36
  Speaker 7: to a level that you.
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: Need to, he can't be an elite quarterback.
• 59:40
  Speaker 7: I don't think that you can just be so physically
• 59:43
  Speaker 7: gifted that it doesn't matter if you're reading anything or
• 59:46
  Speaker 7: making these kinds of pre snap decisions that Evan's talking about.
• 59:49
  Speaker 7: You don't have to be Tom Brady, but you can't
• 59:53
  Speaker 7: not have an ability to do it. And I've seen
• 59:55
  Speaker 7: no indications that that Drake may doesn't have the ability
• 59:58
  Speaker 7: to do it. We saw him as the year went
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 7: on last year. How many times is he directing people?
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 6: You know, guy in wrong places?
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: Your guy?
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 7: Which one, Kendrick Bourne, My bad, bad, I got that.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 10: You know?
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 7: How many times was he changing you know, you're there,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 7: You're supposed to be over there in the slot.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 6: You're supposed to be out wide?
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 7: You know, he has an aptitude for the position.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: And I'm not.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: Worried about post snap like, I think he reads coverage well,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 4: I think he sees rotation well, like all that kind
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: of stuff. I'm not concerned about it, just the pre
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: snaps that we just haven't seen him do it at
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: this level because he wasn't necessarily doing it to this
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: level last year.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: So it's just an unknown. Yeah, David's out in New Mexico.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: Loved the show. He says, with all the talk about
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: McDaniel's offense impacting may the receivers and the running backs,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: how does the new offense change how the offensive line blocks?
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: And to Paul Saucer, gravy, gravy, it's not it's not
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: gravy anyway. How does it affect the offensive line?
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, if we want to if you're talking
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: about scheme and the actual blocks are being asked to
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 4: execute versus like the verbiage of the offense, those are,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: you know, two different things. But from a verbiage perspective,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: I've heard that this offense is actually easier in a
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: lot of ways from a protection standpoint than other offenses
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 4: because they use numbers, and the numbers coincide with how
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 4: many blockers you have in the protection, so you do
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: fifty sixty seventies protections, five sixty seven man protects. So
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: that way there when they say, you know, they'll read
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 4: out the play and then they'll have a number to
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 4: the protection that's giving the protection scheme, it tells you
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 4: within the number how many guys are in the protection,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: and it kind of puts it into a family of protection.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 4: So I've heard that that is a strength of this system,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 4: that it works that way. And the only thing really
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 4: from a protection standpoint that is a little challenging is
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: is blitz pick up from a running back because they're
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: dual reading, so most of the time they are reading
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: off of two guys and you have to make a
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: decision post snap based off of who's coming and who's
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 4: dropping and things like.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 7: That, so quick little aside totally off topic of what
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 7: but we did no socks And I sat down with
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 7: Craig James today to record one of our latest installment
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 7: of Pats from the Past. And one of the things
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 7: he talked about, so Patriots fans might not remember, but
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 7: Craig James came from SMU under Ron Meyer, you know,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 7: and he was part of the Pony Express backfield. But
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 7: that was the introduction of Dante Scarnekia to the Patriots.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 7: When Ron Meyer came from SMU to become head coach
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 7: of the Patriots, he took along with him Dante Scarnekia
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 7: and one of the things that he talked about, ev
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 7: was how confusing Craig James talked about how confusing past
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 7: protection was for the running backs. They had a lot
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 7: of if thens yep was the way he explained it,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 7: and Dante completely streamlined it all and made it so simple.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 7: That made it so simple, and that was you know,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 7: that was one of the things that was one of
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 7: the takeaways from our talk.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: We'll have that probably that's great soon, but.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's just interesting to I mean, most of our
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 7: Patch from the Past are more more recent and part
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 7: of the Dynasty years. This was a little bit of
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 7: a wayback machine.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 6: It was great. He was a great Tell.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: Mike, you're working on something, well, I've been on in
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: nineteen eighty five, like crazy. I mean, I'm at least
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: gonna writ an article for the Game Day magazine I
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: and we'll see if I do anything else with it.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: But talked to Craig James today, who was my favorite
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: player growing up. So that was pretty cool to finally
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: meet him. I picked thirty two in high school and
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: I told you guys, but just for the listeners. Cool
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: moment after you guys did the interview, I was walking
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: him out. The Patriots were walking out for practice and
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: Travon Henderson came wearing thirty two and Craig James just
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: went up to It was like.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: Hey man, I wore number thirty two Craig James in
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: the eighties.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 6: And Trevon Henderson was like, really cool.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: I'm so mad at myself or not.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 6: This would be great. Great on Twitter, you got wait.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: I know I would say it happened so fast, but
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: it's just really cool moment night cool.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: Did we body camp right? Yes?
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 6: Well did you have your body camera?
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 12: Yeah?
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: Right? No, I didn't, but said he said hello to
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: Rabel as well, and I talked to Raymond Clayborne outstanding
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: cornerback as well.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 6: So yeah, it's just fun for me watching going back
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 6: to those games.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: I watched a lot of the TV copy and it's
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: crazy because there's no first down marker.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 6: They barely show the clock.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: They barely show the scoreboard, so half the time you're
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: watching it, like I don't.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: Know how much time.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 7: Know what they had back then when you watch the games,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 7: you had what they used to call the ten minute ticker,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 7: uh huh, and every ten minutes they will put the
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 7: scores up from out of town.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you had to wait, wait ten minutes.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 4: We'll find out whenever they show, like you know, you
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 4: watch like the nineteen eighty six NBA Finals or something
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 4: like that, they don't leave the score back. I know
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 4: it's so and it will literally be like one oh three,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 4: one oh two with five seconds to go in the game,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 4: like the biggest play in the season.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 7: You know, put a little square with the clock, but
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 7: you wouldn't get the score.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, wait, scoreboard, get about the twenty four
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: second clock?
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, no idea, you know, I mean you know
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 7: who brought in the bug? Right the score Fox?
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 6: Uh? In whatever?
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: Ninety Yeah?
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 7: Was that right ninety It was when they turned to
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 7: do before maybe when they started doing games. They they're
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 7: the ones that brought the kind of school.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: Yes, unbelievable.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: It kind of ties into our narrator contrays even know
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: what you need someone always telling you what the score is.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: Now, we watched the games. We seem to survive so much.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: You just don't realize watching games. I mean we watch
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: a lot of games live now, but how on the
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: president the scoreboard and the first down marker and you
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: just you take it for granted that you always can
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: just call.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 6: It when you don't see it all of a sudden,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 6: like wait, what's the score?
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: You lose Tyler and Ludlow. I have no worries about
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: McDaniel's coaching up May as he was the coordinator when
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: Jimmy g had to start for Brady, and we know
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: that he was very effective. I would expect that McDaniels
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: has learned from the stakes and will be surprised if
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: he makes the playbook too complicated for May.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think we're getting away from the
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: playbook being too complicated for him, and it's more executing
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: the scheme.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 6: If that makes sense.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 7: I think that's where we're get kind of the most basic,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 7: easiest play If it's hard for the quarterback to run it,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 7: it's not about a complicated playbook.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 6: It's about running the offense the way he wants it run.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 4: I'm also not concerned about it the way the email
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 4: or phrased it. My whole thing is, I just I
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 4: wish that they were starting from a higher a higher
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 4: starting point right like now, instead of starting hitting the
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 4: ground running in OTAs and training camp and stuff like that.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 4: They're still learning.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: So you wish McDaniels is here last, Yeah, Like.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 4: So now does it stand the reason that it's really
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 4: going to take two years to get it fully operational?
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 4: Right like? That's and I know that's that's way down
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 4: the line.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying that I'm death stars.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 7: Why does it always have to get back to a
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 7: wiki level with you?
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: I'm a geek? Is this thing operation?
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 6: But you?
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 7: But you, you know, the flip side of that would
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 7: be again with my shows is sort of contending. So
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 7: I agree that the best best case scenario would have
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 7: been to have what Evan said and maybe this be.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 6: Year two of him learning this offense.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 7: But if not, my shows would say, like that's why
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 7: they would prefer not to have McDaniels, but maybe another
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 7: like McVeigh or Shanahan West Coast kind of a guy
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 7: to come in. And even though it's not the same
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 7: as Alex van Pelt, it's kind of in that family,
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 7: less new to learn. That's why the people it's not
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 7: because Josh McDaniels is incompetent, it's offensive coordinator. To the contrary,
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 7: he's been a great offensive coordinator. But people just wonder
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 7: if there's so much new, is that stunting the development?
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: Jack and Abba says, Einstein actually said, actually, everything should
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: be made as simple as possible, but not simpler. The
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: point is to simplify, but not oversimplify. Some difficult endeavors
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: like quarterbacking a pro football team can be simplified only
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: so much.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 4: I don't want to simplify, like I think we're losing
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 4: the plot a little bit. Like all I'm saying is
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 4: is that if it takes like last year, where it
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: was two weeks into training camp before it really you
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 4: saw the light bulb kind of go on for ra
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 4: May and click. Well, that's two weeks that they could
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 4: have been adding other things in and getting really humming.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 4: If that's the path that we take this time because
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 4: of the changes in coaching, then you're not behind the
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 4: eight ball, but you're just you're not as ahead as
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 4: I would like it to be. But that doesn't mean
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 4: that I want Josh McDaniels to take his offense and
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 4: strip it down to pee wee football like it, just
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 4: it might be a little bit of a slower burn
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 4: than what you would have liked.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 6: Well, what would you guys say? This is the question
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 6: I'm asking myself.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: What would you guys say, are the benefits if Drake
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: May is able to get this offense down, understand how
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: to execute it. What are the benefits of this offense
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: getting to that point versus maybe last year's offense.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 6: If he got to master's Oh, it.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: Doesn't have put more stress on the defense. I mean
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: that type of offense.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 4: It's very multiple, so you can you know, the one
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 4: thing that he'll have is answers to tests where like,
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 4: you're never going to get caught with your pants down
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 4: if you run this offense correctly, you know you're never
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 4: going to be in a situation where there's a blitz
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 4: coming and you have no answer to it.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: There's an answer to everything the defense is doing right, you.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 4: Know, right, So, like you know, if they're bringing you know, pressure,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 4: either there's a built in hot or there's a way
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 4: to move the protection or whatever the case may be,
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 4: that has answers. Whereas at times last year and even
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 4: two years ago, three years ago, like they're snapping the
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 4: ball into as Brady would like to say, bad defenses
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 4: right the plays.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: In order for it to work, you have to recognize. Yeah,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: if you don't recognize correctly, then your answer is wrong.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 4: You be recognize if we're going to be wrong and
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 4: be wrong together.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: But like if you were coaching a team, wouldn't this
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: be ideal for you that you would want that to be?
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 3: I mean, I know it's hard to do, but like
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: in a perfect situation, you want your quarterback to go
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: out there and be able to do that.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 4: So, and like the same thing with the receivers, Like
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 4: there's always a lot of discussion about this offense and
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 4: how it goes to receivers, but like to me, it's
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 4: common sense with the receivers, like if their options are
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 4: adjusted or option d outed based off of the coverage,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 4: like instead of running into the defender, we're going to
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 4: run away from the defender, right like it, So it
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 4: should more or less be common sense. But like, you know, okay,
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 4: like you know, they used to talk a lot about
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 4: you know, Moss would like run a post right, and
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 4: he'd be like, well, I'm running the post right into
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 4: the post safety, So why am I doing that?
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 4: And so then they started to build Okay, you can
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 4: now break to the corner if you see the post right.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 4: And so then he was like, all right, well do
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 4: that or like we're going to run a deep over,
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 4: so you're going to cross the face of the post
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 4: safety instead of going right into the post safety. Like
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 4: all that stuff, to me is is kind of common sense.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 4: Like why would you run a route directly into somebody
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 4: when you could run the route into an open space.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 6: It's just hard to execute when you're on the field
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 6: and guys would kill you.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: And it's timing and all that stuff too. Yeah, Sean
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: and Petaluma, California, guys, he says Lan Larison, dude was
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: an absolute blow out here at you see Davis, he
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: can run through the tackles pass pro catch out of
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: a backfield. I'm a proud you see Davis football season
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: ticket holder, kind of like Paul and Northeastern.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 6: Absolutely, I was thinking the same thing and.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: Watching him up close the past couple of years. Maybe
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: think of yes, sexy rexy Burkehead.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely a little Rex Burkhead vibe to him.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: By the way, did I see James Devlin at practiced?
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: You did? You did? An NFL p A, Yeah you did.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 6: Paul Pasqualoni also former Stuse head.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: Coach right and Yukon? Right? Wasn't he coach at Yukon?
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 6: He may have.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: I think he did. I think you might.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 6: He may have.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 4: No way to find out those two There was a
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 4: way Rex Burkehead or Land Larris and Rex Burkhead. And
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 4: now he's wearing thirty four just like Rex Burkhead and
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 4: then Afton Chisholm. I feel like it's just like the
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 4: slot version of that.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 7: So I'm going to ask you which you know, which
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 7: which one of those two guys, because I just pick
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 7: one because I can't do both of them. Why can't
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 7: we take I'm not doing either guy, But I've been
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 7: inundated with questions about those two players.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 6: One of them has been called Caffrey.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 4: He was that was his nickname in college is the
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 4: D T. McCaffrey.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 6: So, uh, you know these two guys, I'm going to
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 6: leave it to you guys.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 7: But from now until the end of training camp, you
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 7: guys can have all the fun you want.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 4: Why they can't keep.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 6: All saying talk about that was all just talk about
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 6: I would talk about. I would talk about one of them.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 7: I'm not talking about the one on the surface. I
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 7: would say the running back would have a better shot.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 4: Just the numbers.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 7: Because of the numbers, now Chishom's a little redundant to
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 7: the wide receiver part. To me, that would be interesting
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 7: as if they decide some of the guys that we've
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 7: quote unquote said well you should be here. You know,
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 7: some someone isn't here, like even like a mac Hollins,
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 7: you know, like a free you know, it's not unprecedented
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 7: that a free agent. We had a member Mike and
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 7: I had a member of the media. I'm not going
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 7: to say who it was. Said, that's rare, he said,
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 7: book it surprise Mac Collins tour the other day.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 6: A negative member of the media.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 7: Yes, So I'm not saying that I don't think that
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 7: that will happen. I think that they like Matt Collins,
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 7: but if something unforeseen like that happens, because this kid
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 7: is really pushing, you know, on the on the practice field.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, by all means hard to tell.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: I just I mean he's quick and definitely stood out
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: for his quickness. But I just I feel like it's
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: kind of Pop Douglas. And I mean maybe Pop Douglass
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: got hurt and you felt like you needed a slot.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 6: I just like gambling on size a little more. It's
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 6: it's hard. It's really hard to know.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: It makes you wonder or makes you understand why maybe
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: Edelman Welker took them a little while to find their
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 3: stride because those guys they.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 6: Don't physically they're not physically imposing.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: You really have to see it consistently to believe that
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: they can do it.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 4: There's just such a translatable skill set which ism into
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 4: the McDaniels offense because we've seen it so many times before.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 4: And I think the one thing he has maybe on
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 4: pop Pop's definitely a better athlete, you know, definitely more
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 4: explosive and and things like that, but he's got that
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 4: feel of like how to get opens especially again zone coverage,
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 4: like he's got that that sort of knack for you know,
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 4: where are the soft spots and where to settle and
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 4: how to make himself open and things like that over
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 4: the middle of the field, where I think Pop Douglas
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 4: is really good against man coverage, but he still doesn't
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 4: have that in sixth sense with the quarterback. I think
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 4: Chishom might have that.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: Interesting, that's a really interesting point someone. I hadn't really
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: considered it, but I think you're really right, and that
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 3: could be a place where one guy maybe just has
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 3: a little better feel for the game then.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: Peter and Ottawa. Uh, Peter from Ottawa in Florida. I've
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: been meaning to send this email for a while. I
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: used to think that Fred was the person who was
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: essential to the podcast, but over the years I've since
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: discovered it's Paul. When he isn't there. There was absolutely
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: no pushback. If we can get Evan more jaded, he
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: has some potential, but without Paul and his pushback, the
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: show has become dull. In other words, we need the
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: negative Nancy push down negative.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 6: You said, pushka, No, that's that's all right, all right.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 6: I think Fred agreed to disagree with.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: I think you all make me.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 4: Think sometimes about it. I'm actually right about things, thank you.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 6: Fred makes me think in all seriousness.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 7: He makes me think of things in way different ways
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 7: than I think of him. Yeah, And sometimes I make
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 7: fun of him for it and we end up arguing
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 7: with one of our semantics arguments. And sometimes I'm like,
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 7: I never thought of it that way, and I'm better
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 7: for it. But you always think of him in different ways,
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 7: don't you think?
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: Sometimes because when you're an idiot.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 6: But you know I didn't say that, No, I said it.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 6: I was gonna say, how did you interpret what I
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 6: just said? Is an idiot?
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: I think of things a different way sometimes because I'm
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: an odd.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 7: But but it's like when you used to used to
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 7: have the joke about the press conferences. Sometimes I see
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 7: I go between the line right and get it, get
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 7: the and you do you you look at things differently.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: Sometimes It's funny.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 3: I was thinking about it because you I didn't know
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 3: you during the Dynasty when they were winning Super Bowls.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: Oh he still does.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: So I've only been on a show with you when
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 3: they've kind of been bad.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 6: So you've been right way too much about all of this.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 6: Stuff that's unfolded over.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: That's a couple of years.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 6: I didn't even know what I would say.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 7: It's been a complete one eighty like the height of
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 7: the diet and Fred tell it. Fred will admit this,
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 7: like I never ever thought they were gonna lose.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: Yeh never, Yeah.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 7: I would declare games over in the first quarter, like
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 7: that's over. It's like they once she's you know, oh
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 7: they Oh Brady can throw it into the winds as well,
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 7: this game's over. Like literally, I was as obnoxious a
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 7: Patriots fan as you could get.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 4: We need that.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 6: I just I just want to know what it's like.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 7: No, no, no, no, we don't need that Paul back. We
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 7: need that team back. Cap would you be I'll be
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 7: obnoxious and tell you they're gonna win every game.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 6: If I think they're gonna.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: Win every game, I mean, it just would have been fun, though,
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: to see like you poo pooing a guy and instead
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: of it being like Paul was right, to be.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 6: Like, oh, the guy's actually awesome. I don't know, but
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 6: you know, like you've been like right on all this.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 6: I mean, like Matt Jones, I'm like, I don't know, Paul,
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 6: he's gonna be okay, don't worry like I don't know,
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 6: like all right, like I'm not gonna lie.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 7: My first impression of Kyle Williams the other day he
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 7: runs a go round against Alex Austin and got covered
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 7: like a blanket. I didn't like that. That was my
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 7: first thing, first thing that I saw.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: I didn't like it.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 4: Got open.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 3: I was sitting well, I was gonna say that in
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 3: uh and Kyle Williams defense was long, speedest thinger was
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 3: like off the.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: Line and talk.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 7: You know, he ran a nice over on I believe
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 7: Craig Woodson near the sideline for a nice guy throw
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 7: and catch you on that play.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 6: Give you a little bit of.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: Both Josh and Atlanta says, because I love you.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 6: I think it was.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: Evan talks about the Celtics for five minutes during a
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: playoff run and gets lamp based by the fake Patriots
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: fans who don't care about Boston sports. Meanwhile, Paul can
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: manufacture a narrator argument with multiple leaf Schreiberd name drops,
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: and no one bats an eye. Leah, Leah, Evan keep talking,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: sees the real New Englanders appreciate it, and if Paul
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: likes narrating, so much. Let's have him do it for
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: episode two.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 4: Thank you?
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 7: Oh no, like we already told you who the narrator is.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 7: The producer is the narrator.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I appreciate he didn't.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 6: Come from the other side of the field on that play. Okay.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 7: Evan has informed me that the play that I was
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 7: giving Kyle Williams props for was just a regular out.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 7: I could have sworn he was in the slot on
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 7: the right side of the field and caught it on
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 7: the left sideline as a.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 4: Little smash concept hitch corner. Okay, see smash covered too
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 4: little pump, I know, smash throw it in the hole.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 6: A little pushback from Evan. Everything's got to give pushback.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: Of the ball, the ball.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 4: Knower on case.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 6: I got to get that T shirt printed. I already
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 6: did it. You have a ball taking a break? Did
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 6: you get food today?
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: I did.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 3: It's not here yet, so like the unc and was
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 3: like speaking of that, you sent our school into chaos.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: You best dug He says that first time, longtime, Fred,
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: you always used to say Paul's food is here, but
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: you don't anymore. What happened? Did you hurt his feelings?
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: Or is Paul so s felt now that you're no
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: longer body shaming him. Yeah, Paul doesn't eat anymore. He's
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: on a starvation diet until the Patriots went.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 6: Fred's food is here now every day.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: He said, Fortune Fox Sports, fantastic. Love the job all involved, LFG.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: Thanks for the show, Thanks for the great content and hilarity.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: Good.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 4: It's been a good show.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: It's been fun. But I'm losing steam if I don't
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: get food soon.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 6: Yeah, all that PiZZ of time.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: Jess in New York City rights in. We got some
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: phone calls too. I'll get to. Media footage and press
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: headlines could be used in lieu of a narrator or
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: type on screen to explain things like Rabel's hiring or
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: the construction of the football facility. For example, ten seconds
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: from the NFL network doing a breaking news Mike Rabel
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: heading back to New England story, or showing a few
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: seconds of a press release with a Patriots break ground
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: on football facility headline and picture of the crafts holding shovels.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure what that's called, but I've definitely seen
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: documentaries use quick clips of media coverage.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 7: That's actually done that. Yeah, yeah, the covery. That's exactly
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 7: what they did for Rabel. Yeah, we had I believe
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 7: it was Adam Schefter.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we used a lot of eyesen Rich Eisen Yeah,
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: I can't see. Uh, let's see Kendall in North Carolina.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: What's up Kendall, Kendall, Hey, how you doing good?
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 10: I'm coming up to September twenty nine from North Carolina
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 10: for the Panthers patries. I think that's the game. Okay,
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 10: I'm coming.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 12: I wanted I wanted to know.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 14: What are some good eating areas close to the stadium
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 14: and some good hotels or airbnb?
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: Well, it depends on what you want to I mean,
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: you know there's a lot of good good eats around here.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 6: Where are you planning on staying? Yeah, like in Providence
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 6: or in Boston or.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 10: That we can get to the stadium.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: Okay, well I would I would say, you know there's
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: two hotels right on property. Yeah, there's the Renaissance and
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: the Hilton Garden in but they usually get booked up
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: quick and if you do that, they're expensive. It's the
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: Renaissance at Patriot Place and then there's the Hilton Garden
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: in here at Patriot Place, but they tend to be
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: a little.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 4: Also the home to Sweets down the street.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: There's a holiday Inn in Mansfield, which is actually a
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: real nice holiday inn which is close by.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 14: To Okay, is how is the Boston from.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 4: Foxboro forty five minutes to an hour?
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 10: Yeah, okay, I appreciate it.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, all right, the travel agency thanks often tell
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 7: him if you end up staying in the in the
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 7: Foxborough area, then there's plenty of restaurants right here at
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 7: Patriot Place that you know.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: If you want Italian Lucianos is right down the street.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 6: Lucianos is excellent.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 14: Uh.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 3: There's also a barbecue place that's it looks like about
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 3: we saw the smoke, like the Pope knocking on the door.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 6: It is Blondie.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: I'm ready Blondie's barbecue. I hope it's good. We hope
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: we really need good barbecue. I mean it looks legit.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 6: I mean they got the big smokers out there. They've
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 6: been building it for a while.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, the proof is in the bar on the ribs.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: All right, take a break because my food just arrived,
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: uh not Paul's. And we'll be right back after this.
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• 1:24:26
  Speaker 17: Kirsch and on screen stars do some Paul. I mean,
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 17: it was unbelievable.
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  Speaker 18: It was it was it was some absolutely you know
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  Speaker 18: of give on those. It was really well put together.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 18: I mean, whole whole squad did a great job on it.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 18: You know, everybody kind of came together and it was
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 18: a heavy left but it's an awesome, awesome video.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 17: I mean, Chris, like you know, just behind the scenes,
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 17: like a lot happened in the last season. I mean,
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 17: we we had it before with the previous administration, and
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 17: we're went straight into this, but like cameras are rolling
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 17: the whole time and we're sure to capture that bring
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 17: it all the way up and we got another episode coming.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 18: Right, and it gives you that like authentic feel to it,
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 18: and it's like it's coming completely from us and it is.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: It's just awesome. Well we've been able to capture.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 17: If you're a Pats fan, there's no reason not to
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 17: learn it, all right. That was from Dano Thursday's show Greetings.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 17: So I was driving home from the office listening to
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 17: Thursday's show, and once I got into the freeway just
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 17: as Alex and Duce were making their simultaneous rod dogging comment.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: I was looking at the.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 17: Car stopped on the side of the road and accidentally
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 17: gazed upon two men relieving themselves, not Paul style, on
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 17: the side of the road. I actually reround, re round,
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 17: or whatever the current term is for it the podcast,
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 17: thinking my brain had just made me hear them incorrectly
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 17: based on what my eyes were seeing. Nope, I heard
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 17: what I heard. I saw what I saw. I laughed
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 17: out loud. He rarely disappoints cheers to see.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what to say to that.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 17: You gotta call you gotta go, all right, Fred and Paul.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 17: Please teach the youngsters oh some manners. Normally I only
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 17: listen to the replay of podcast on my drive home.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 17: Today I was working from home and watch the podcast
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 17: live for the first time. Please teach the youngsters to
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 17: put their phones down, phones down, and pay attention to
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 17: the conversation.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: Rude.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 17: Additionally, Evan, stop with the faces when someone disagrees with
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 17: you with your point of view. I'll be glad to
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 17: send money for the movie tickets for the youngsters to
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 17: see Jaws. Just let me know when and where to
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  Speaker 17: send the money. Evan, the original Star Wars is that
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 17: was the best, just like the first Super Bowl was
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 17: the best.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: Old school.
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  Speaker 18: I'm actually against the Star Wars take. I think making
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  Speaker 18: fun of that in facial expressions is one of the
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 18: funniest things I've heard in a while.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because he's he's a sour puss.
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  Speaker 7: He is.
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  Speaker 18: He loves to kind of he gives his opinion if
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  Speaker 18: someone's nose.
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  Speaker 1: Like, well, I disagree, agreed, disagree.
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  Speaker 2: Phones down. Phones phones are always down here they are,
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  Speaker 2: We're down. Come on, phones are down.
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  Speaker 17: If you look at the Maddison, the phone's not bad.
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  Speaker 1: I've never Yeah, we're taking it all.
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  Speaker 17: We'll take that's for that's for Alex and Fess. Yeah,
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 17: and then with Jaws, that's that's all Alex.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: She needs to see that.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So the fact that she has is crazy old school.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 17: We'll tell you where to send the money, but she
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 17: needs to watch it. This like it's almost it's almost
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 17: Cape Cod Martha's Vineyard season. So all right, last one.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 17: What I've learned this offseason. I got a list here. Okay,
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 17: this from David in DC. I've learned so much from
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 17: you all this off season. One Fred goes over the
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 17: top rather than through the door. Two Paul is a
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 17: hot sister. Three Mike likes the Celtics as much as
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 17: he likes Tom Brady. Four Alex likes dudes and backwards caps.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 17: Five Evan thought that he still thinks he knows everything
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 17: about football, thought that and probably does, but very little
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 17: about anything else.
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  Speaker 2: Damn roasted.
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  Speaker 17: Six I miss Andy's advice about swamp ass.
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  Speaker 2: Seven.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 17: It took a year, but the silos finally came down
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 17: and there appears to be some collaboration.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: Eight.
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  Speaker 17: The Pope has a degree in mathematics. He not only
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 17: knows sin, he knows co sign.
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  Speaker 1: That's exciting.
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  Speaker 2: I like that.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: That was a hefty email.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: Is paul sister hot?
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah? What about what about that one?
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 2: But I had questions, as I guess I'll ask Paul.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: And Evan really doesn't know anything about ball either, so
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: is he?
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: The line to us is Evan a fraud?
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: Is Evan interesting?
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  Speaker 17: He might be, but you can find out that the
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 17: next episode. You guys, and once again, thanks for sending
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 17: in the emails. If they don't get right on the show,
• 1:28:26
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  Speaker 2: And now great moments in.
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  Speaker 18: History.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 2: Back in the day when Eric was still a meat eater, right,
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 2: we went to Arthur's and wanted to get a steak
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 2: while done, and I objected. He did, I objected, He.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 6: Voiced in opposition, that's ridiculous.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: Yes, told the servers that don't you dare, don't you dare?
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: Bring him a cooked.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 15: Steak about five minutes later.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: He doesn't need a good cut, is what I'm saying.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: You don't need to waste the money on someone who's
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 2: gonna have all done.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 6: It's a waste because you.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 2: Don't want to. It'll taste the same, is what I'm saying.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: He won't even know the difference.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 6: Of course, you know the difference street cuts of meat.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 2: Not when you do it well done, not when you
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: cook it well done. Just give him a hook. It
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 2: loses its flavor, It loses all its flavor.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 6: All your sins, sins.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 2: That's another great moment from so it's your fault, fread
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 2: what's my fault?
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 3: When I went to Indian everyone's like, you gotta get
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 3: your primary medium rare like Bradley did. And then I
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 3: was not in a good place of the combine for
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 3: about two days. But I think I have it in
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 3: my head, like if you're gonna get a good steak,
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 3: you gotta get it medium.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: Rare, right at the most medium, at the most most medium.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 2: That's you doing it. But not Hamburger is different. Hamburger
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: is different because you you've broken the membrane seal. So Hamburger,
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: you actually had no less than medium. I actually, when
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: I go to a restaurant, if I order a hamburger,
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: it's medium well because I want that burger cook because
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 2: bacteria gets in when into ground beef. But steak has
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 2: that membrane still on it, so you can order it
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: medium rare.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 4: I'm with Fred on the steak. If you order if
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 4: you go to like a nice steakhouse and you order medium, well,
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 4: I don't respect you to do better.
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 6: I don't bother like that's good.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 2: Burger is good. Way, that's good. Yeah, don't you break
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 2: down the membrane.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 7: In the mid on this we as We've had this
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 7: discussion many times in the past.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 4: Like when we go to the Elmos in Indy, if
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 4: I see somebody order medium, well, I'm like, why.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 2: Don't you just go home?
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 6: It's not going to be anymore, that's for sure. A
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 6: medium well guy. No, no, I was a medium rare
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 6: guy once and.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 4: Just for the record, everybody at that table said to
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 4: do hey, dude, that that looks a little rare, like
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 4: maybe you should send it back, and no, no, it's
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 4: all it's fine.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: But it was like people like their sak like raw,
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: they'll order it rare. Yeah, that's too much. That's what
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 2: I got was rare. I didn't order the pink not red.
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah right, yeah, I heard that medium rare, but I
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 3: didn't order the two days on the toilet afterwards.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: Have steak tartar, right. James pettigrew the most interesting Patriots
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 2: fan in the world.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 2: So how much was the motivation to make the doc
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 2: an appeasement to fans? Seems like the old Bill way
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 2: of communicating only works when winning Super Bowls. Also, how
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 2: is the new environment for you guys? Does it make
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 2: the job easier or is there now more to do?
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: Eric would have hated this much activity in the off season,
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 2: that's true appiacement to fans. I don't know. I think
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 2: we were offered the opportunity and we took it.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's it's circumstantial. I think that there
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 7: are different coaches that have come in the last two
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 7: years that had a different sort of mindset when it
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 7: came to content and social media and all that stuff.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 7: And I think Bill was obviously setting his ways and
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 7: didn't really embraced much of that, whereas Girod last year,
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 7: and I would say even more so Mike this year,
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 7: have been a little bit more open to doing that.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 7: I think that was really the sole impetus. I don't
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 7: think it was. I mean, we're always looking to do
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 7: stuff that we think is going to be appealing to
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 7: the fans.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 2: The fombs, Well, it's just the word pressure. Like before,
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 2: like you had pressure to come up with content because
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 2: you weren't given the access, so you had to do
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 2: other things. Now you get the access and now there's
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 2: a pressure. We better do good with it or they're
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 2: going to take it away. Yeah.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think this is a lot of the
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 3: most high performing content around the league that other teams do.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 3: I know, the Philadelphia Eagles, they put out videos like this.
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 2: They are noting the wheel here, but I don't know.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 3: I just the appeasement where it buzzed me because to me,
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 3: it's like I just I want to entertain the fans,
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 3: Like that's what activation is, entertainment, showing behind the scenes,
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 3: this is the response, this is what fans eat.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 2: Our goal is always to bring the fans closer to
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 2: the team. Now we have more ways to do it,
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 2: which is good. Quick says, hopefully it's a long term series.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 2: Any chance of doing a deep dive into the scouting department,
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 2: I was fascinated with that aspect of the first episode.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 2: I think following the scouts as they attend games without
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 2: telling us who they're looking at, but seeing the scouting
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 2: process through their eyes.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 7: Hey, so I would just say this is you know,
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 7: the appeasement word sort of got under your skin a
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 7: little bit, Mike. One of the things that gets under
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 7: my skin a little bit is like, how about we
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 7: do this, this and this, and generally there are things
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 7: that we've done, like we have a series that we've
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 7: done for I don't know ten years, like, you know,
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 7: do your job. Yep, We've been behind the scenes with scouts.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 7: We've given you deep dives into some of these things. Now,
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 7: I think the meetings themselves that Evan was talking about,
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 7: that's a little different that we've gotten to show you.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 7: But we've followed a guy on the road, a pro
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 7: scout on the road, you know, to do his job.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 6: We've fall load, you know, all kinds of different.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 7: Personnel here and what they do, and we're going to
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 7: have a story I think soon. Ted Harper, the nutritionist,
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 7: was just recognized from the ward. Alex who's not here
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 7: today because she's on another community event. She's going to
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 7: be doing a nice profile on that. Again, we've done
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 7: him before. We're telling you behind the scenes stuff of
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 7: what all these people do, and that the content is
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 7: out there. Maybe we need to do a better job
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 7: of promoting it, but we've done a lot of these
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 7: things that people are looking for.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 6: Evan embedded, Evan embedded with the Scouting Department.
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think Evan just needs to go to the
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 7: Scouting Department of me. I just think you're missing this
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 7: guy knows what he's talking. You're young enough, like see,
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 7: I'm too old. You're young enough to reinvent yourself.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 2: I could see you on the road in Kennesaw, Georgia, Paul.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 3: Paul taking down offensive line.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: When you're done downloading porn to your laptop.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 7: That is what that is what you have to do
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 7: to be a member of the Scouting Oh no, I'm
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 7: just kidding.
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 2: Just a turn.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 4: There we go.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 2: Boston Cream's on the line. What's up, Boston Cream?
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 6: Yo yo donut.
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 14: Hey guys, I think we've reached our limit for tired
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 14: pumps on your guys' video. There so spread people in
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 14: the organization listen to you on certain things, right, you
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 14: have a voice.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 2: No, I'm out of the loop. Okay, I have no voice.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 14: I would say that you're like the medium between the
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 14: fans and the organization.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 2: Is that correct? I can be at that at times? Sure, Okay, yeah, okay.
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 14: I've always taken you as someone who isn't scared of
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 14: a challenge, at least in certain arguments on the show.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 14: So the fans have spoken and the current uniforms aren't
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 14: living up to the Patriots standard of excellent and also
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 14: the voice of the Patriots fans. What can a man
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 14: of the people like yourself.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 8: Do about it?
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 2: Well, that's a good question. And sometimes you're more effective
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 2: being a voice if you agree with it. I don't
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 2: really give a damn about the uniforms, So I don't
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 2: know if i'd be your most effective voice. But I
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 2: have heard about that, and uh, you know, I think
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 2: that there's like a five year runway that you have
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 2: to have when you want to make a whole sale
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 2: uniform change, whole uniform change. So, but I think didn't
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 2: they announce that they're going to have the rivalry? It's
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 2: the No. They didn't wear the one piece blueberry last year,
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 2: I know, but.
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 6: But they did. Yeah.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 7: Now, they had other games that they wore the dirty
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 7: pants with the blue shirt because because they were both
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 7: no one wants to.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 2: But nobody want to know. I agree that the one
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 2: piece blueberry forget.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 4: It all that out and at the nfl p A
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 4: thing with the Rookie Symposium thing, Trayvon Henderson and I
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 4: think as Kyle Williams were there and uh, they were
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 4: wearing the full blueberries.
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 6: Really, so do you guys have be interested in you?
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, Paul, what would you like
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 2: to see? Hello?
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 11: Sorry, I thought that question was to Paul, for you
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 11: to you.
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 3: Like.
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 14: I kind of like a lot of different things here.
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 14: I don't want to go back to the dynasty. I
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 14: think that just needs to live.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 10: In the past.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 6: What wrong?
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 14: Like I would like to see the Patriots work in
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 14: more alternate uniforms so that we all everyone kind of
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 14: gets what they want. But there's gonna be a little
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 14: bit of a modernization on probably the helmet, probably the jersey.
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 14: And then it took Heay to get the silver pants back.
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 14: I think that's kind of iconic and Patriots history. But
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 14: I don't have the answer. But I'm not I'm not
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 14: as smart. I'm not as smart as bread.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 4: So I think the blueberry I think it works as
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 4: a jersey. I think it's the full ensemble that doesn't work.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 6: That's is my question to you guys.
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 7: Is it the monochromatic thing that we don't like or
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 7: is it the actual style of the uniform.
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 2: Usually I don't like one color throughout the only time
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 2: sometimes it looks good, like when the Bengals came out
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 2: in the all white that looked sharp.
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 7: I like it as a one off. Yeah, I do
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 7: like them as a one off. That the one color, Yeah.
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 4: Well they did that. That was color rush that these are, Yeah,
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 4: and I kind of like some of those now. I
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 4: think that the the blueberry jersey could more or less
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 4: work with the silver pants. But the silver pants have
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 4: to be made for the blueberry jersey. They can't be
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 4: made for the old like the silver pants that they
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 4: use now are pants? Are we're crossing sets of jerseys extreams? Right?
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 3: I think I would say the tip uniform behind Paul
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 3: over there, that white jersey with the red pants, I'd
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 3: like to see some version of that.
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 6: And then I just like to see a modernistable.
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 2: In so seventies.
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 6: I like that, but don't overthink it.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 3: I would just say, update the Dynasty uniforms, get a
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 3: little bit more of a modern fit, maybe a little
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 3: bit different though, Like I'm not a designer, but I
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 3: just think the cut could be a little bit more.
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 6: Maybe perhaps you know, just as you get better.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 3: Jerseys fit a little bit better. But I just that's
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 3: the Patriots. Like you want to flip on the TV
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 3: and you know instantly who's playing. That's what happens when
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 3: you turn on the Packers. It's always looked the same.
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 3: They have some the cowboys, the forty nine ers, the
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 3: dynasties in the NFL, where the uniforms that they were
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 3: dynasties in And that's who the Patriots are.
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 6: I think that's who they should mostly be.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 2: The you're saying you don't want change.
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 6: I want those to come back. I want the Dynasty,
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 6: but update them.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 7: But if they were all blue with that like they
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 7: did in two thousand and two.
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 6: The Patriots, No, I don't like it too much blue.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 2: I'm blueberries.
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 4: The forty nine ers are a great example because they've
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 4: modernized the Dynasty jersey and.
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 3: It's still like you flip the TV and still red
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 3: and every somebody from the nineteen eighties coming to try
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 3: a time machine.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 6: Which dynasty.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 7: They were entirely different uniforms throughout their dinostare point.
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 3: I didn't care for the ones where they went like
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 3: the shadow numbers, the shadow numbers, like the turn I
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 3: didn't like that. But they were in the they were
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 3: in the same like vicinity right like they weren't totally.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 2: They changed some of the font a little bit.
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 7: And the colors of color scheme. The Patriots changed their
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 7: color skin.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they went blue.
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 6: Miners didn't. Yeah, So that's I mean, that's just to me.
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 7: I know, they went from red to blue, Like you
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 7: like one blue and you don't like another blue.
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 6: That was too much blue, which is what I'm like
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 6: the primate group I don't want. That's what I'm finding
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 6: interesting is you guys. It's you don't like the one color.
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 6: You don't like the monocrap which manic look. I didn't
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 6: hate it when it was a color rush uniform, like
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 6: when it was once a year, and I would agree
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 6: with you, and I could swallow a pill on any
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 6: one off unifor I just don't like.
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 7: I mean, obviously they had tremendous success. I don't really
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 7: like the blue and gray with the elvis I don't.
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 7: I like the old ones better, but they're never going
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 7: back to the old one, so it doesn't really matter.
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 2: I've like, I've kind of not had a problem, but
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 2: wish that they go away from the silver helmet to
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 2: white with the new logo. I think that would be
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 2: sharp because you know we're the Patriots. That's red, white
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 2: and blue. Where does silver come into here? You know?
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 4: The other thing I worry about, like the Bruins have
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 4: like sixteen different jerseys, like they have all like, we don't.
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 6: I don't want that.
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 2: Now. Your league, the NBA, it's getting worse. It's getting worse.
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 6: League.
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 4: It's not it's not quite the Bruins, like the always
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 4: have three different jerseys in rotation. Right now they don't
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 4: have it.
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 2: Seems more to me. But what about the Red Sox
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 2: new one, the new Yeah, the.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 4: Then hate it?
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 2: They were once and then they didn't wear it again,
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 2: you know, like over the weekend, Like yeah, but if
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 2: it be a different usually city, connect your word for
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 2: the series.
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 4: No, they'll wear it again, but I'm.
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 2: Sure they will, but they didn't wear it after that game.
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 4: I really I really liked those ones. I thought those
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 4: are the best ones so far. Of the alternates, and
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 4: I thought they were really sharp. That green is obviously
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 4: stoic with Fenway, like, that's a that's what I.
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 6: Kind of liked about it.
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 2: Monster.
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's green, Monster Green, I kind of liked.
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 4: I bought one of the hats. I'm not shame to
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 4: admit I love the hat.
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 7: I don't hate to look at those other ones, though,
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 7: the blue and yellow ones. I just think they wore
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 7: them too much.
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 4: And it's just also like I get the connection, I
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 4: get the story behind them, but it's not really red Sox.
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 4: It was a one time thing with the marathon that like,
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 4: but now it's kind of.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 2: Green Monster shirts Adam and Whizyanna. The current jerseys are
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 2: way too generic. They look like the jersey you get
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 2: assigned in a video game for startup team. There's no
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 2: pizazz to the uniforms. It's just blue and stripes.
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 6: It's very constructive email.
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 2: There's nothing interesting about them. I'm in favor of the
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 2: Dynasty uniforms coming back or a new rendition on the
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 2: nineties Royal Blue Ooze like those the Royal Blues. When
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 2: they were out, people made fun of them.
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 4: I don't think they're great. They made fun of them.
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 3: Well now it's like they're so bad they're I don't
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 3: remember them getting made fun of.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 7: Fred Evidently every uniform they ever had got made fun of, right,
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 7: I love everybody made fun of the pat Patriots.
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 6: I don't remember this.
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 4: Can we can we bring them back, like for like
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 4: an anniversary game of Like.
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 2: Sure there's something like I mean, just that's.
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 4: That's my child.
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 3: It's like all of it to me feels a little
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 3: bit screwy because like even their practice jerseys still seem
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 3: like they have the font from the old Dynasty jerseys
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 3: on them. But it's a different fun NOWT Like, these
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 3: are all things that I track, and I'm like, not
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 3: track like a dated.
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 6: That's how I know you track it.
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 4: But when they wear the blueberry top with the silver pants,
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 4: but the silver pants belong to the Dynasty uniforms, they
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 4: don't belong to these, and the stripes are all they
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 4: don't I'm like, what this looks.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 2: I'd look ridiculous.
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 3: Get a fashion person, like a legit fashion person, to
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 3: break down the uniforms, like all of them, like all
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 3: the ones they ever warn and get like an honest,
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 3: fashion informed opinion.
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 6: What for that means.
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 2: Okay, back to football, Jason writes in predictions for starting
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 2: offense and defense, all twenty two guys, we're not doing
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 2: that yet. Also a game, what's everyone's hope expectation? And
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 2: better not be okay, So three categories, what's everyone's hope expectation?
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 2: And better not be for wins? So what's your hope?
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 2: Seventeen and owns right?
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 6: Well, is this record related or just general speakings? Hope
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 6: ten wins, expectation seven wins? Better not be four wins?
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 2: That's right way, Yeah, seventeen and now hope, what's your
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 2: hope expectation? And better not be for Drake May's touchdowns
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 2: slash passing yards.
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 6: Under fifteen interceptions be that better not.
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 2: Being interceptions are approaching the touchdowns.
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 4: Kind of be like a two fifteen is a good Yeah,
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 4: fifteen through forty touchdown correct?
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 6: I agree with you two to one ration. I think
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 6: someone recently had like forty one and sixteen. I could
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 6: I could live, I could live. I think Josh Allen
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 6: might have had a year like.
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 4: That's quite crazy. Yeah, I even throw forty three.
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 7: No, I'm just saying, like to your point, like I
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 7: can live with fifteen recks. If he's showing forty touchdowns, yeah,
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 7: I think.
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 2: My hope for touchdowns is forty. My expectation is thirty
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 2: and better not be. Ten.
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 4: Man, if he throws thirty touchdown passes, they're going to
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 4: be They're going to be in the playoffs.
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 2: Like my hope.
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 6: My hope is thirty.
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 7: My expectation is twenty five and better not be anything
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 7: less than twenty.
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 4: What if you're like runs in ten though, you know,
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 4: like my.
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 2: Passing yard points see this more evan pushback. My passing
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 2: yards is forty two hundred hope, thirty five hundred expectation,
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 2: and I think under three thousand, better not be.
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 6: I got to have my expectation four thousand.
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 7: I think in the seventeen game season, I need my
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 7: quarterback to play and throw over four thousand yards.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 2: Right, that's fair. And what about points per game allowed
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 2: and scored? Oh, Fred under fifteen? Right, remember that a
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 2: couple of years ago.
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 6: I mean, let's say twenty seven game.
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 2: So that's your hope for that's my no, that's my hope.
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 6: No score, yeah, yeah, offensively twenty seven.
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to go to thirty, But I mean thirty,
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 3: you know, that's twenty seven.
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 6: That's still pretty high.
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 4: I think that Mac Jones team was like twenty five
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 4: or twenty six a game exactly, So I would say
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 4: that that's probably.
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 6: Like a lot of defensive scores.
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 4: That's probably the hope is that it would be like, ye,
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 4: the same as that obviously look different. But yeah, ever
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 4: being realistic, expectation twenty twenty, No, it's got to be
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 4: at least twenty one and one.
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 2: No, my expectation is twenty six twenty six. Expectation never
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 2: going to lose.
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 4: That's a big number.
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 6: This expectation is forty touchdowns. All right, Patriots, we'll see
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 6: us as not meeting expectations.
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 2: If that's my expectations.
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 4: Somebody that predicted them to go thirteen and four might
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 4: be right.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 6: I thought we were trying to.
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 2: Okay, what is that those previous I don't know. Ed
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 2: in Florida writes in with a new direction in the
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 2: way the team is going, I think we should have
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 2: new game day music. Crazy train has run its course.
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 2: My suggestion would be enter Sandman. Does the group have
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 2: any thoughts? I love that, but that's that's copycat, right.
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 7: You can't do Yeah, I'm all for what's changing up
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 7: because it's run its course.
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 6: But we don't want to steal someone else's.
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 2: It's hard.
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 6: That's it's really hard.
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 2: We wanted to tech come.
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 6: Up with something that's different.
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I like Welcome to the Jungle. There's just songs
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 3: that are just generic. I don't know, it's so it's
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 3: so hard. I think about them, the jungles of Celtics, right, Like,
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 3: I mean there's always there's like what five six songs
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 3: that everybody.
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 2: Man Andrew Sam is a great song.
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 4: But like as a Bostonian, like I think Mariano Rivera
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 4: and like you can't have that, like you can't be
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 4: taking stuff.
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 2: From the air.
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 7: I mean it's great, like that tradition is great. I
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 7: just think if you want, you need to start your
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 7: own tradition. Yes, I'm a big fan around I'm telling.
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 6: You it's easy.
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 7: No, but that's that's what the goal should be, is
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 7: to start your own tradition, write our own.
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 6: Really kick ass intro song. It's like us playing music.
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 2: Back on the field.
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 7: Like it's like a big It's like a big band
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 7: era swing.
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 2: You're down to the Patriots. We're gonna run all over.
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna go on the run ball I'm pumped up
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 4: or you you can get a seal here, I'm gonna
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 4: run over in the.
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 6: It is a great question.
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 3: I think about it, like sometimes I'm listening to like
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 3: my you know, iPod on my music, Apple Music, whatever,
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 3: the m P three play my P three player, my
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 3: cassette tape.
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 6: You know, it's a song to come on, like with
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 6: this be a good one.
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 3: There's no like you can't come up with a new
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 3: hype song, like I feel like they already exist. It's
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 3: hard to go outside of the outside of the box.
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 8: You know.
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 2: Well, it's got to get you right at the beginning.
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 6: So anybody used Lose Yourself?
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 2: I mean the Lions, Yeah, Detroit.
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 4: I don't know if they use it, but like that's
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 4: kind of yeah, I can't.
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 2: You got to have that recognizable, I like, but you
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 2: hear it.
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 3: You know at the beginning of Metal the Store Ragnarok,
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 3: they used immigrant song by Let's up on a Little
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 3: But you know that's like that, yeah, you know that.
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 7: I know he really has worked on his music in
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 7: the off season because I got both of.
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 2: Them, well, like the Thorpe trailer use that, yeah for
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 2: their trailer, and it was really good.
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's great. That's a great pump up song.
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 3: But you know again, like we're going back to the seventies,
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 3: Like there isn't like a modern song.
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 2: We don't have.
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 4: We don't do rock bands.
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 6: Well, you don't do the seventies, says we know with Josh,
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 6: So we don't.
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 4: We don't do rock.
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 2: If you do want to use eminem, I would use
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 2: till I collapse.
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 15: That's eminem.
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 2: That's that is like I'm like, but like there's like
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 2: certain songs that you hear like Hotel California in the
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 2: moment I got to listen, Like there's one that I
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 2: love from the Hollys called Long Cool Woman Dress. Like
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 2: when I hear that song, crank it up, you know,
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 2: But I don't think that would work now to people.
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 4: It's very disappointing the side note of music in general,
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 4: Like we don't have any of that.
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 6: No, Like we can't use a distract.
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 4: Right, Like it's I mean that would be cool, but
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 4: like we don't have any of that because like there's
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 4: other thing as bands anywhere, you know, like you guys,
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 4: it's it's a it's a point of contention for me
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 4: that like that I really thought about like we kind
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 4: of write like no bands anymore really, like you know,
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 4: I mean Green Day was a band, but like that,
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 4: that's like you literally have to go that far back
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 4: to find like an actual rock band. There's no bands,
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 4: Like there's no lot of bands like.
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 2: We will never Dragons took over the scene.
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 4: You will never have like a Mick Jagger like that
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 4: does doesn't like we don't have a Rolling Stones, we
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 4: don't have uh the who led Zeppelin? Like that stuff
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 4: doesn't exist.
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 19: Like you got to go back to like like it's
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 19: like Taylor Swift, Yeah, exactly right, Like you don't know
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 19: who's in Taylor Swiss band.
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 4: No it's not you know it's not it's not led Zeppelin,
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 4: it's Taylor Swift.
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 6: I never thought of that.
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's something that I've thought about.
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 2: A lot, I guess, like like even like Pearl Jam,
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 2: are they a band?
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but like they're going back a little bit, you know,
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 4: Alex checking in what she said, uh like while you're
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 4: looking at that bill and San Diego says.
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 7: Not that French Montana featuring Rick Ross, Drake and Lil Wayne,
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 7: there's a Rick Ross line that goes balling, balling, Like
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 7: I play for New England.
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 4: That's true. Yeah, that was back up.
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 2: Bill in San Diego says new Patriots song Somebody's Gonna
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 2: Get their Heads kicked in tonight by the Resilios.
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 6: I've never heard it familiar, but I like the title
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 6: of it.
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Someone's gonna get their head kicked in. Robert says,
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 2: Van Halen's right now now, like like, you gotta have
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 2: an edge to it.
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 6: Alex says, use Panama. I you're gonna use van Halen Panama.
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 2: I like Panama.
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 4: But the kids these days are going to be like,
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 4: what is this music?
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 7: Yeah?
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 3: Don't you just wish you could crack the code that
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 3: and be like, wow, they played this is their entry
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 3: song and no one's ever thought of something like that before.
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 6: We always do a C.
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 14: D C.
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  Speaker 3: And Metallica and you know bon Jovi, those bands back then,
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  Speaker 3: Like everybody uses those songs.
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  Speaker 4: Need something new, There is nothing new. This is the problem.
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  Speaker 6: We've got to make it. We're gonna write it ourselves.
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  Speaker 6: I got the AI I haven't working on. Evan has
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  Speaker 6: returned from practice.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah that's a banger.
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  Speaker 6: It's a banger.
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  Speaker 2: The Patriots uniform, She says, Okay, how is about they
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  Speaker 2: pick silver or gray and stick with that as a
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  Speaker 2: complimentary color. So the helmet is the same gray or
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  Speaker 2: silver as the pants. But how's about they don't go
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  Speaker 2: back to the dynasty. Look, I do agree with the
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 2: modern twist of the dynasty with the cut, but I
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  Speaker 2: do really like the more updated blueberry shade of blue.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go forward, not back.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, all right, sure a lot of opinions.
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  Speaker 7: And Scott like the cut was a problem, Like I haven't. Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: the uniforms remembers are all the same right around the league.
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  Speaker 7: It's the same manufacturer.
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  Speaker 6: It's like subtle Yeah, well that's what I mean. It'd
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  Speaker 6: probably be inevitable.
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  Speaker 3: But the subtle changes you went from, you went to
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  Speaker 3: like the Reebok one that that Seymour is in right there,
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  Speaker 3: to the Nike one that Brady's in right there.
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  Speaker 6: You see some almost afraid to turn around.
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  Speaker 7: I don't know if because I have to admit that
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  Speaker 7: I don't notice the differences.
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  Speaker 2: There is a different cut, like you go back to
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  Speaker 2: like the seventies when they had the big shoulder pads
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  Speaker 2: and the and the you know them.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and it looks like my pop Warner, Like it looks.
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  Speaker 2: Like a comment is about to crush the earth. Scott
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  Speaker 2: san Diego says the dropkick Murphy shipping up the Boston
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  Speaker 2: cliche cliche.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, like obviously, like the first couple of
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  Speaker 4: notes of that are good, but I agree, well.
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  Speaker 2: Cliche Jack says eminence front by the Who.
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  Speaker 6: Why don't I know that?
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 2: What's that?
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  Speaker 6: One's the end of.
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  Speaker 2: No, they've glorified it's just Devin in Toronto says, no bands,
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  Speaker 2: terrible take just say you don't keep up with Rick
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  Speaker 2: music anymore. Rick, I don't know what.
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  Speaker 4: Tell me, Tell me who who were the popular?
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  Speaker 2: My vote for entrance song is Blackout by Turnstile exactly.
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  Speaker 4: No one knows who that is.
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  Speaker 5: If you're gonna, you know, because we're boling in reverse
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  Speaker 5: a great and no one knows who it is, Like
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  Speaker 5: we're like your music official, I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: But I'm sitting here, So what are you talking because
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  Speaker 4: I'm you're talking about Rolling Stones and he brings up
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  Speaker 4: Turnstyle like so this is a modern band.
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  Speaker 7: But all right, so I'm gonna at the risk of defending,
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  Speaker 7: what are we talking about? So don't you think if
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  Speaker 7: if we're coming up with a song like this, it
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  Speaker 7: needs to be universally known.
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  Speaker 2: So like they I disagree with that premise.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, I mean I would. I would think that.
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  Speaker 2: Song that's we should make? What like, why might I
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  Speaker 2: find a lesser known band that has a really good
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  Speaker 2: and make it universally I don't we got set a
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  Speaker 2: new trend to get to work on that one.
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  Speaker 6: I just would feel like.
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  Speaker 2: If you total the Stooligans is on it. If you
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  Speaker 2: want sixty.
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  Speaker 7: Thousand people to get jacked up before a game, I
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  Speaker 7: don't think you're going to do it with a song
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  Speaker 7: that they've never heard before.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, unless it's amazing, I don't.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't's amazing you'd heard it.
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  Speaker 7: I don't think fifty eight thousand people in the stands
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  Speaker 7: care about like Turnstile, Hardy. You can do that to Hardy. Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: Hardy is a music like snob I like to call him.
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 7: But he's going to be able to listen to something
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  Speaker 7: and say, wow, that's really good.
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  Speaker 6: Most people just listen to the songs that they know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm not.
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  Speaker 6: Do you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 4: We're tending to be a music officionado, but by no means.
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  Speaker 4: But like you guys are naming bands like that are iconic.
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  Speaker 4: All time great bands like no band in my in
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 4: my time on Earth has risen to those levels. That
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  Speaker 4: was the only point I was trying to make.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Corey. Corey says that the pages need a
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  Speaker 2: new song. My vote is of Wolf and Man by Metallica.
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  Speaker 2: At what point did they put Carmena Burana in there?
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  Speaker 3: You know?
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  Speaker 6: You know that that like kind of a classical song, Right,
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 6: that's an interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Twister, multi talented.
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  Speaker 7: It's it's better than negative ducee though, I have to
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 7: say that musical dudes, musical deuce is better than negative duce.
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  Speaker 2: But angry Deuce is the best that will probably know
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  Speaker 2: this one. Yeah, that's a good one. Very anthemy, it's
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  Speaker 2: a very yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Which one's that word for track eighteen on the eminem.
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  Speaker 4: Show Track eighteen?
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 6: Sure, it's not seventeen, it's.
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  Speaker 2: Eighteen, Say what you say? It's track seventeen. Sandstorm by
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 2: the Rude.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Sandstorm is like a like dubstep song.
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  Speaker 6: I wish I was writing all these down. I want
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 6: to listen to all of them.
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  Speaker 2: Iron Man from Black Sabbath I do love.
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  Speaker 3: I mean able to say he loves for whom the
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 3: belts are? Yeah right, No, those about the rock. Sorry,
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 3: those about.
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 2: About wap by Cardi B.
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 4: I don't know that love Cardi B. That that.
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to that because she's going to come
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 2: to a game.
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 4: Has to right the board pole.
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  Speaker 2: That was great, el Elle, says Evans. Saying that there
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  Speaker 2: aren't bands anymore is one of the most insane things
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  Speaker 2: I've ever heard. There are tons of bands, ones that
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 2: tour the world. Even Okay, I think I think we've jumped.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not saying that bands don't exist anymore. Like obviously
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 4: bands exist. But if I had to say to you,
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 4: like who is the band of my generation, I don't
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  Speaker 4: have a great answer for it. That's all I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: That's fair enough. All right, that's and that's the end
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 2: of the show.
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  Speaker 6: I gotta go graduate.
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  Speaker 2: I got things to do, all right. Thanks for listening. Everyone.
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  Speaker 2: Have a good weekend. Anything on the docket that we
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 2: need to talk about, all right, Memorial weekends before lacrosse.
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right, big weekend, lacrossere right here.
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