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Hour Two | More Fallout from Kelly’s Firing & Staff Shakeups · Off The Bench

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  Speaker 4: All right, back here obviously talking Brian Kelly getting.
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  Speaker 5: Fired at LSU.
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  Speaker 4: Now searching for your next football coach in the next
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  Speaker 4: couple of weeks, and probably in the next segment is
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  Speaker 4: when we're going to start to maybe speculate and throw
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  Speaker 4: out some names and who could.
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  Speaker 5: Be the next head coach of the Tigers.
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  Speaker 4: Will take another look here what the Brian Kelly tenure
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  Speaker 4: look like. He comes in in twenty twenty two, ten
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  Speaker 4: and four overall six and two in league play, of course,
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  Speaker 4: gets to the SEC championship game, loses to Georgia the
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  Speaker 4: next year twenty twenty three ten and three, six and
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  Speaker 4: two in league play, twenty twenty four nine and four
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  Speaker 4: overall five and three in league play, and this year
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  Speaker 4: five and three, two and three in the SEC. A
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  Speaker 4: total win loss record at LSU thirty four and fourteen
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  Speaker 4: in conference play nineteen and ten. So like those numbers
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  Speaker 4: in themselves, not up to the standard of what you
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  Speaker 4: want to get done at LSU, but you know, certainly
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  Speaker 4: not The worst record that you've seen where it goes
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  Speaker 4: bad is versus top twenty five teams, five and eleven.
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  Speaker 4: That's what cannot happen, is you going five and eleven
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  Speaker 4: against the best teams that you play. You started twenty
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  Speaker 4: twenty two not ranked and you got up to number
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  Speaker 4: sixteen in the final poll.
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  Speaker 5: Good job after that. You never replicated that.
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  Speaker 4: In twenty twenty three you were number five preseason, You
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  Speaker 4: finished number twelve in twenty twenty four preseason thirteen.
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  Speaker 5: You finished not ranked this year number nine in.
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  Speaker 4: The preseason, and a lot of people thought that was
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  Speaker 4: maybe a little too low because of what you had
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  Speaker 4: coming back, and you're not ranked right now and it's
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  Speaker 4: going to take a lot for you to fight your
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  Speaker 4: way back into the top twenty five. So you look
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  Speaker 4: at like the overall record, it can be misleading because
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  Speaker 4: even like the conference record, it's nineteen and ten.
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  Speaker 5: It's not awful, but it's awful for LSU standards.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 5: You want to be in the conversation.
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  Speaker 4: You want to have a seat at the table, and
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  Speaker 4: the seat is at the SEC championship game.
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  Speaker 5: They're in Atlanta.
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  Speaker 4: You get there your first year, and you had opportunities,
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  Speaker 4: certainly last year, and you don't get back to play
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  Speaker 4: for an SEC championship game. And again five and eleven
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  Speaker 4: versus top twenty five teams.
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  Speaker 2: It's not good, Jake, not good at all. Now look
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  Speaker 2: at that overall record too. We talked about it, how
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  Speaker 2: you know, certainly not nearly up to the standard that
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  Speaker 2: has been set here at LSU. And it just seemed
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  Speaker 2: like every year was a right. I don't know, they
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  Speaker 2: kept getting a pass for excuses, right, whether it's talent
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  Speaker 2: or whether it's whatever it is. But I look at
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty three season, seriously, if Jaydon Daniels didn't put
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  Speaker 2: on a superman cape and play the quarterback position for
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  Speaker 2: the LSG Tigers and be able to score at any
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  Speaker 2: given time. I literally played probably one of the best
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  Speaker 2: seasons at quarterback in college football history. What is that record?
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  Speaker 2: They're a six and six football team.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd agree with that.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, there's games that Jaydon so bad with my leak
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  Speaker 5: and with BTJ for sure.
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  Speaker 4: But to your point, how many games did he just say, Hey,
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna go eighty five real quick on the ground,
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  Speaker 4: Hey I'm gonna throw for three thirty.
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  Speaker 2: You don't get that very often, like an offense that
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  Speaker 2: it's like you feel come like once they step on
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  Speaker 2: the field, no matter if they get it on their
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  Speaker 2: own half yard line or they get on the fifth whatever,
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  Speaker 2: it is like you were like, yeah, they're gonna score.
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  Speaker 2: They're going to at least get three out of this thing.
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  Speaker 2: So they don't get three a lot, theyll probably score
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  Speaker 2: touch that most time. I'm just saying, you look at
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  Speaker 2: the overall record and like, Okay, it's not up to
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  Speaker 2: the standard, but it's still not bad. It could have
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  Speaker 2: been what three games and six games in the opposite
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  Speaker 2: direction too. Yeah, that Jaydon Daniels literally doesn't have a
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  Speaker 2: supermank even No, you can't take that away, got it.
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  Speaker 2: He got him to come there, great, but that was
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  Speaker 2: a quite an anomaly of a player and an offense
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  Speaker 2: in college football. So I think it just kind of
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  Speaker 2: adds to what everybody's thinking that it's not a good
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  Speaker 2: enough record and it probably should have been a little
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  Speaker 2: bit worse.
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  Speaker 4: Uh, you know, people already speculating in the chat like
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  Speaker 4: maybe some names that they want there before we get
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  Speaker 4: to names then, and it's going to be in the
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  Speaker 4: next segment. I think you do have to take a
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  Speaker 4: look at some of your established head coaches and how
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  Speaker 4: it's gone for them in this new day and age
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  Speaker 4: that we're in in college football, in college athletics. You
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  Speaker 4: look at Dabo Sweeney, you look at coach Saban, who
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  Speaker 4: he wanted, he didn't want any part of that wasn't
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  Speaker 4: the game that he grew up loving and won multiple championships.
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  Speaker 4: He still Saban still, No, he still he talks about
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  Speaker 4: it often. Could he still go out there and you know,
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  Speaker 4: be successful, Yeah, probably so, but I don't even know
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  Speaker 4: to his standard if he could, uh, you know, Brian
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  Speaker 4: Kelly and we could go Mike Gundy, we could go
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  Speaker 4: on and on and on and get a list. Right, Like,
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  Speaker 4: it's different. It is different now, and so when you
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  Speaker 4: start to look at it, this can't be a look
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  Speaker 4: at this resume higher now you got to have things
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  Speaker 4: on your resume. But look, when you brought Brian Kelly in, like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: there was excitement because of all the wins that he
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  Speaker 4: had had and what he had done at Notre Dame,
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  Speaker 4: and he had played for a national championship. And at
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  Speaker 4: the time, I think there was only three current coaches
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  Speaker 4: that had national championships. So it wasn't like the list
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  Speaker 4: was long as far as the people that you could
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  Speaker 4: get here. And you know, Jimbo Fisher was one of them,
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  Speaker 4: and Scott talked with Jimbo, and Jimbo decided to stay
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  Speaker 4: at A and M. So you even talked to one
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  Speaker 4: of those guys, right, and so like that was a
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  Speaker 4: good resume and it can get you excited. And that
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  Speaker 4: was really when college football was starting to change. Like now,
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  Speaker 4: like you take a look at, man, this guy for
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  Speaker 4: the last fifteen years has done this. I just don't
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  Speaker 4: think it means as much because we're in a different time,
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  Speaker 4: we're in a different landscape. I'm not saying like you
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  Speaker 4: got to have something on your resume that is the
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  Speaker 4: last four years relevant, like the last four years impressive.
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  Speaker 2: And we have no idea what direction LSU is going
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  Speaker 2: to go. I think we don't even know right now
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  Speaker 2: who's going to be the final say in that decision
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  Speaker 2: making process. Will it be Woodward? I don't know. There's
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  Speaker 2: all sorts of gossip. There's all sorts of rumors happening
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  Speaker 2: right now, and at this point in time, that's what
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  Speaker 2: it is. I mean, it's speculation. Was Woodward involved in
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  Speaker 2: the Brian Kelly deal? Was that they did the board
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  Speaker 2: and the governor and all these different things happen. What
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  Speaker 2: has actually taken place, That kind of truth will reveal itself.
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  Speaker 2: But who is going to be in charge of making
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  Speaker 2: this hire is the big question? And what will they
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  Speaker 2: be looking for? We can sit here and say what
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  Speaker 2: we hope, We hope it's you know this or that,
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  Speaker 2: But I can tell you the one thing you cannot
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  Speaker 2: do is handcuff yourself to another similar type contract. Right
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  Speaker 2: that is something that can handicap a entire organization. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: Jimmy Sexton right now has got to be licking his chops.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, my god, the openings, the vacancies. He owns
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  Speaker 2: half of them contracts in college. I personally like, we
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  Speaker 2: don't go like the established, long term, established at one play,
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  Speaker 2: like the James Franklin type route. That's that's something you
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  Speaker 2: cannot do. I think it's gonna be a younger go
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  Speaker 2: please say no, please, ain't not I know, And then
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  Speaker 2: of course I know Lane Kiffin is everybody's Lankiff and
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  Speaker 2: lang Kiff and link Kiffin. By do we really like
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  Speaker 2: to get to get Lane kiffen? You know, you have
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  Speaker 2: to do a similar type contract that you just did.
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  Speaker 2: And you're going to be in a bidding war with
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  Speaker 2: Ole miss You're going to be in a bidding war
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  Speaker 2: with Florida. So I gotta be careful what you wish
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  Speaker 2: for there. Not saying it can't work out, but there's
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  Speaker 2: a lot of options out there, and this is one
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  Speaker 2: where whoever's making the decision just can't take the flashy
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  Speaker 2: first person. We've done that. We did that already, like
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  Speaker 2: the guy that's going to be in the whole fame
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  Speaker 2: and m established and okay, cool, Well, let's figure out
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  Speaker 2: who's a really really good football coach, A guy that
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  Speaker 2: knows Ball, a guy that is involved in every aspect,
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  Speaker 2: the guy that his life is football.
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  Speaker 4: Like Jim Harball type. I'm not saying Jim Harball. Look,
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  Speaker 4: he's quirky, I know, but that type. Like when Jim
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  Speaker 4: Harball speaks, it's only in football terms.
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  Speaker 5: It is all he knows.
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  Speaker 2: And I want a guy that comes in and is
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  Speaker 2: going to command a room with respect, not with talk,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. The guy that comes in
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  Speaker 2: and it's like, you don't want to mess with this guy.
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  Speaker 2: You don't want to cross this guy because he's going
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  Speaker 2: to establish boundaries. I want a guy that comes in
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  Speaker 2: and establishes the boundaries with the administration on the front end.
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  Speaker 2: Look into that office and you have an interview and
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  Speaker 2: they're like, this is our guy. I don't know who
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  Speaker 2: that is. That guy can come from a small school.
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  Speaker 2: I don't care. Yeah, I don't care if it's not
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  Speaker 2: the flashy guy. Oh No, I want a guy that
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  Speaker 2: loves me ball there can commit to this state and
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  Speaker 2: commit to those three letters on the Jersey attack, I
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  Speaker 2: don't have the answer.
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  Speaker 5: Every day with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind. It's Jim Harba.
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  Speaker 2: Love that. Yeah, So we got a we got like
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  Speaker 2: a gossip list. Uh.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, hots.
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  Speaker 4: In the next segment, we'll spend some time on that.
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  Speaker 4: There's some chat about like what the yel Su job
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  Speaker 4: is inside our bout you four job.
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  Speaker 2: Uh?
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  Speaker 4: And the names now are like email addresses, so I
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  Speaker 4: don't I don't know the name e MSA.
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  Speaker 5: Is that in the midstream ads?
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  Speaker 4: Uh? Okay, I put it together one two, three four.
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  Speaker 4: I'll disagree with you that the Tennessee job is on
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  Speaker 4: the same level as the LSU job. And look, you're
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  Speaker 4: entitled to that opinion. Tennessee is a good job, So
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  Speaker 4: I'm not disagreeing there. Here's why LSU is a top
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  Speaker 4: three job. As we just were shown last night. There's
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  Speaker 4: a deep desire to be great. Fifty three million dollar buyout,
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  Speaker 4: We'll find a way.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 5: You look at Tiger Stadium, it's.
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  Speaker 4: Got whatever bell and whistle you have to add to
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  Speaker 4: your stadium, it's got it.
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  Speaker 5: When you look.
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  Speaker 4: At what they spent on the roster this year, when
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  Speaker 4: you look at the National Championship access, when you look
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  Speaker 4: at outside of Alabama, it's Lshue and Ohio State that
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  Speaker 4: are tied for the second most nat is last twenty
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  Speaker 4: five years. Right, So if you're in a group with Alabama,
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  Speaker 4: Ohio State. You're doing something right in college football. You
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  Speaker 4: are without question the big dog in the state of Louisiana.
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  Speaker 4: And look, there's some good football. Two's a great football team.
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  Speaker 4: I got a great coach and they got they got
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  Speaker 4: Jimmy's and Joe's for sure. So not going shade, but
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  Speaker 4: that part is what it is. In per capita, Louisiana
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  Speaker 4: has the most players in the National Football League. You've
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  Speaker 4: got a talent pull to choose from, unlike anybody else,
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  Speaker 4: right because Tennessee, Tennessee does not have that, Like the
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  Speaker 4: state of Tennessee.
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  Speaker 5: Doesn't have that. Now the state of Georgia it does.
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  Speaker 4: But you've got teams that are certainly close enough, even
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  Speaker 4: out of state teams that are going to pull themselves
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  Speaker 4: into your state. And hey, Georgia, TeX's number eight team
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  Speaker 4: in the country right now. So you have competition. Florida,
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  Speaker 4: great high school football. You've got competition, I would say
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  Speaker 4: Ohio and Ohio State is probably the only comp that
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  Speaker 4: I would have in Ohio State.
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  Speaker 5: Kind of a standard of college football.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 4: So, like all those things paired together, the talent that
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  Speaker 4: you have, the resources, you have, the proof.
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  Speaker 5: And winning championships all of that.
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  Speaker 4: Like, no matter where you go in this state, tell
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  Speaker 4: a shoe fan Shreveport, Lafayette, Homa, New Orleans.
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  Speaker 5: Baton, Rouge, Monroe, doesn't matter. There's LSU everywhere.
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  Speaker 4: So with what the LSU job is, knowing that you're
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  Speaker 4: going to have Tiger Stadium, and you're going to have
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  Speaker 4: Louisiana to choose from, and you're going to have everything
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  Speaker 4: that you want, need, desire. It's a top three job
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  Speaker 4: in my opinion, top five no matter who you ask
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  Speaker 4: in the country. So your job's not like other jobs,
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  Speaker 4: and you should treat it as such. You should have
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  Speaker 4: the confidence to go in and speak to whoever you
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  Speaker 4: want to speak to, not in a cocky way, but
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  Speaker 4: in a confident way, and knowing you should not settle
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  Speaker 4: for anything, knowing that you should be able to compete
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  Speaker 4: for whatever coach you want and the right coach. And
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  Speaker 4: that's on the LSU brass to be able to decide.
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  Speaker 5: Who that is. And there's a lot of rumors who
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  Speaker 5: that's going to be. We don't know. You don't have
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  Speaker 5: a school president right now. That's troublesome.
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  Speaker 4: One's coming probably in the next couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 2: That's the word say. We hadn't had a president for.
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  Speaker 4: Since May, since May when when to announced he was
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  Speaker 4: going to Rutgers. So you got an opportunity to do
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  Speaker 4: whatever you want to do because you are LSU.
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  Speaker 5: Now you got to go out there and do it.
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  Speaker 2: You got to execute, and you got to get it right.
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  Speaker 2: You got to get it right because like I mean,
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  Speaker 2: there's there is already probably going to be a pretty
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  Speaker 2: big exodus of talent and players this year. I would
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  Speaker 2: think any that's any that's any program, that's any time
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  Speaker 2: you get a coaching shift, a coaching change, because there's
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  Speaker 2: going to be a window now that guys can transfer
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  Speaker 2: with no repercussions or anything like that. But if you
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  Speaker 2: get it right, you have an opportunity to mitigate that.
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  Speaker 2: For one. But we got to see, we got to
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  Speaker 2: see who's making that decision. Like you said, there's no
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  Speaker 2: president at LSU right now. That's why they're at the board.
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  Speaker 2: And the reports at least this is you know, not
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  Speaker 2: not confirmed, and the reports at least that the governor,
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  Speaker 2: Landry or supervisors they all met trying to figure out
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  Speaker 2: everyone's trying to get the game plan. But there's gonna
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  Speaker 2: be a lot of names. There's gonna be a lot
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  Speaker 2: of rumors, there's gonna be a lot of speculation. This
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  Speaker 2: thing isn't going to happen fast. Now, all we can
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  Speaker 2: do is support Frank Wilson, who's the interim head coach
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  Speaker 2: right now, and cheer for the boys wearing LSU on
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  Speaker 2: the helmet the rest of the season, and then hopefully internally,
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  Speaker 2: more stuff will come out every single day, more and
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  Speaker 2: more information every single week. Hopefully we get that right,
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  Speaker 2: hopefully the process. But to Jake's point, LSU is one
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  Speaker 2: of the top three jobs in the country when it
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  Speaker 2: comes to college football, because of the fan base, because
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  Speaker 2: of the support, because of the talent pool, because of
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  Speaker 2: being the only big school in the state that.
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  Speaker 4: Has a deep desire to be great in football, deep desire,
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  Speaker 4: a history, a recent history, a success, three national championship
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  Speaker 4: since two thousand, another appearance, multiple Heisman.
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  Speaker 2: Winners like that says the you know, multiple always having
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  Speaker 2: one of the at least the top one, two or
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  Speaker 2: three NFL guys, guys in the NFL from LSU, that's
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  Speaker 2: all there. That's not at other places. That's not Tennessee.
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  Speaker 2: Those two are not the same. Now Tennessee is a
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  Speaker 2: great job, but LSU is an elite job. You should
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  Speaker 2: be have that confidence to go and say we can't
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  Speaker 2: we if we want it, we can go pull anybody.
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  Speaker 2: But I just would warn them not always. Don't always
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  Speaker 2: go for the flashy guy. Yeah, do your recruiting. You
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  Speaker 2: gotta understand that you got to look into whoever, look
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  Speaker 2: inside of them, look in their heart, see what they
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  Speaker 2: want to like how they've run a program and has
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  Speaker 2: to be somebody that comes in and resets the standard,
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  Speaker 2: resets that grit that we talk about. You said it
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  Speaker 2: on Twitter great last night. It's got to be changed.
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  Speaker 2: The mentality we too many times in the last couple
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  Speaker 2: of years since Kelly has been here, we have been
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  Speaker 2: the nail and not the hammer. That has to change.
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  Speaker 2: That's the embarrassing part. That's the part that pisss off
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  Speaker 2: former players, pisses off fans that have seen it. Even
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  Speaker 2: if we lost the game, that team was still beat up. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: that team knew they played LSU. That team did not
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  Speaker 2: have their fans overtake a student section. You know, while
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: you know why people are leaving. Yeah, okay, you got it. Traffic,
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: weather wasn't great, you know, the game day experiit like whatever,
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: TV is great, awesome, but at some point the games
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: became not fun to watch. It wasn't as good. It
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: wasn't as good as people expected it to be. Yeah, sure,
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: you're always gonna have people problem with people leaving early,
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: but people leaven that early. I can't blame him. Hell
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: I was I did it okay? Like the problem. I
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: sat there in South Carolina and I watched the first
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: half and I'm like, man, this isn't even fun to
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: watch like this, This is not like, this isn't us,
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: This isn't.
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: Who like I knows LSU.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: So whoever we bring in has to reset that standard,
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: has to reset that mentality and let people know that
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: if we are if LSU is not the hammer, there's
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: an issue.
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: Changes need to be made. Yeah, and there's bright spots
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: on this roster. There really is. Like you go back
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: and even this tape, like there was finally some things
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: that change. It was strangely enough, there was enough. Yeah,
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: there was enough. Takeaways. Now you've got some issues and
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: some spots. Do not get me wrong, you have got
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: some issues, but there's bright spots. And whoever comes in
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: has got to try to save those bright spots, change
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: the culture and bring in some bright spots. Like think
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: about the guys you brought in the defensive backfield. Those
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: guys are that guys are giving you everything they got.
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: They've been in LSU for months, not years, months, and
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: it looks like it means more to them than almost
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: anybody out there. Like aj Halsey definitely got a stinger
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: in the first half.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: He's an absolute dog.
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: He came back in the second half. I'm like, oh man,
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: he might he might have to play a little timid here.
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: First play he was involved in, he knocks the runner
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: three yards out of bounds.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: Like that guy he may play on the goal line here,
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: save the touchdown. That guy gets it. Man, that guy
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: is a dog.
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: Like if he just gets here and he can do that,
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: that's that's who he is. But now you got to
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: demand that. Everybody's like that. Everybody has that right. The
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: next head coach has to non negotiable when you have
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: that meeting with him, Get.
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: That and bring that back LSU football.
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  Speaker 4: went wrong, how we got here in all of that,
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: and all the things that didn't happen that needed to
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: happen that just never did, and you know, fully being
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: bought into, what.
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: This job is, what this job deserves, and all of that.
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: But there's going to be speculation over the next couple
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: of days and weeks because not only is LSU open,
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: but there is a host of jobs that are open.
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: You have Florida, you have Penn State, you have Arkansas,
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: you have Oklahoma State. You have all these jobs, and
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: you're not in the same market as coaches that Oklahoma
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: State and Arkansas are in. That's not disrespectful, that's just
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: the truth. That's just cold hard facts. You are probably
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: gonna be in some of the conversations with whoever Penn
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: State and Florida.
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: Are in on now.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: Do I have LSU one, probably, Penn State two, Florida
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: three in that I do, and I think a lot
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: of people would or you know, some version of LSU
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: one and Penn State Florida, depending on how you want
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: to put those in those spots. Okay, so you're gonna
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: have to have an ear to the ground. You're gonna
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: have to find out what all the movers and shakers
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: are saying. You're gonna have to find out, you know
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: your list, what's their list? And what does all of
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: that look like. Okay, what do we think they're looking for?
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: What do we think is realistic in their next hire?
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: I think we laid out You can't just go look
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: at the resume from fifteen years in the totality of
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: it and what they've done the last fifteen years. Last
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: fifteen years don't matter, They do not matter. The game
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: has changed, it changed four or five years ago. What
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: have you done for me lately is the conversation we
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: need to have because lately is what the game is now.
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: What can you do moving forward?
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: What have you adapted to because there's so many coaches
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: that have impressive resumes, but they have not adapted to
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: what you have to do now. That's not the only thing,
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: because like we said, like you got to come here
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: because you want to come here and make it better
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: and fully buy in, shut the door, lock it, and
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: throw away the key, like we said in our number
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: one and get ready to work your ass off. Just
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: because this is the best job doesn't mean it's an
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: easy job. That expectation is there because it was set.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: This isn't a country club job. That's not what this
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: job is. This is a two gridded to be pretty job.
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: That's got to be your mentality. And if it's not,
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: don't come here. You don't need to be here. If
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: you don't want to be in the building past five thirty,
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: if you don't want to be here during the off season,
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: if you don't want to be here during the bye weekend,
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: this is not the job for you. You got to
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: want to be here and it's got to be family,
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: LSU football, those are it. Those those are the things
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: that are your priorities. So we when we think about it,
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: when we start to think about possibilities, is their names?
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: Is there just a general direction that you want to
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: go in.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Well, look, we kind of talked about we were talking
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: about a different job open and we were talking about
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Florida last week after where was it two weeks ago,
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: after Billy and Navyer got fired. We were talking about
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: like the coaches that are doing so well and about
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: how those mostly coaches that you would look at right
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: now aren't even an option because they're so ingrained into
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: that school. You talked about Clark Lee, Like Clark Lee
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: is Vanderbilt, Yeah, through and through, no doubt. Brient Key
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: like Georgia Tech. Georgia Tech through and through.
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: Like that's what you know about that man from the
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: very first conversation you have about it.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Right, So you got all these guys that would be
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: great candidates. But in this day and age in college
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: football within I l like these schools that have not
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: been able to compete and be relevant now can with
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: the right leader, like sometimes our right leader, Like just
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: like the two examples we just gave, like those guys
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: more than likely. I mean, never say never, but like
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: Vanderbilt's gonna pay them, Georgia Tech, it's gonna pay yep.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: And that place means something to this place means something
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: like so you're not going to find so yeah, I
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: mean there's I mean, you could start listening off names
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: and you're no one's going to be wrong right now.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: If you start, let's leave. If you say Gruden, You're
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: not gonna be wrong. You say it just for fun,
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: You say you can.
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: But I don't need to see any more bad edits
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: of John Gruden in any college football.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: GPT has been busy over the last making so many
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: different images.
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: My god, I love DoD love John Gruden. He's awesome
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: to listen to, like his football mind.
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: But no, no, it's not we're talking about We're not
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: talking about that.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean obviously right now that the names being
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: thrown out there, I mean, Liane Kiffin's at the top
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: of everybody's list being thrown out there. Whether he's going
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: to be interested or not. I know the price tag
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: is going to be high. I know his agent's slicking
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: his lips right now for sure. Other names being thrown
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: out there. Dan Lanning, we talked about you were you
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: were your guy from mis Zoo with two z's M
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: I Z, M I Z whatever. Don't you thank you?
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: I'll admit, probably decent coach.
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: You think, mm hmm, you think Dranks previs coach.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I was trying to think outside the box a
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: little bit too, of course, all just like thinking, just
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: pulling stuff out out of the air. Coming off a
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: big win two weeks ago. About the about the cat
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: over in Louisville.
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: Jeff Brown played played there, you know, plays very Louisville.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's going to be uh that is
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: solid after at some point he think he's I think
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: I looked it up. He's like the anti James Franklin.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: He's four and one against top five opponents in his
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: career at Perdue in Louisville. Yeah, yeah, James Franklin. He
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: is obviously somebody that played at Louisville.
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: His brother Brian, who you know you played with with
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: teammates with uh, he's the off the coordinator. He played
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: at Louisville. So like it means a lot to them.
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: He's making five point six, I believe million this year,
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: so obviously like a place like Elas, she would give
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: him about double his money, you know, but that place again,
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: like Clark Lee played at Vanderbilt, Brent Key played at
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: Georgie Tech, Jeff Brown played at Louisville. And I'm not
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: saying it's the only way, because, like you know, we've
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: seen that not work in a lot.
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: Of places before.
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: But my whole point in bringing that up is it
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: would be very difficult, I think, to get them away
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: from their school for su ESPN dot Com gave out
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: some of who they think potentially could be the list,
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: and they gave out five candidates. Ole Miss coach Lane
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: Kiffin to Lane coach John Sumrow, Notre Dame coach Marcus Freeman,
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: Georgia Tech coach Brent Key, Missouri coach Eli Drinkwoitz.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: There we go.
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: I I don't know, like for Marcus Freeman, Like, I.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Just don't think we've gone down to Notre Day.
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think Marm's a hell of a football coach.
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: I think Marcus Freeman gets the times that we're in.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: I do.
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: I think Marcus Freeman would do better than than what
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: you've been the last couple of years.
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: I do.
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: I just think Marcus gets it. But you just went
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: down that same path. Yeah, I just I don't think
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: the optics pretty happy a Notre Dame too.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think the optic is just going with
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: just the Notre Dame aspect of thanks certainly wouldn't be
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: great for me. I like Marcus things a hell of
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: a coach. Played against him? Do you run him over?
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: I mean you get him good pro? Probably? This guy
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: says this guy, this guy probably did he play on
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: the team I played against. Look, I had crushed him.
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: I had one trick in my bag and that's what
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: it was.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Okay, Hey, our chat is lighting up right now. For
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Kelvin Shepard. Love him. He's been a decordinator for half
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: a season too far.
• 31:04
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• 31:06
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• 31:12
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• 31:12
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• 31:14
  Speaker 5: Chef's awesome, He's incredible, and if he.
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: Ever wanted to be a head coach, anybody'd be lucky
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: to have him. But I think he really enjoys being
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: the defensive coordinator for the Detroit Lions a lot.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: You can tell. Yeah, it's like he's having a little
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: fun out there.
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: So of these names, John Sumral obviously is different because
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: I mean, Lane's in the SEC Marcus rooms at Notre Dame.
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: Brin Key has Georgia Tech, is the top ten team
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: in the country at the ACC and drinks an SEC coach.
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: I look, I think a lot of Eli Drinkwitz. Y'all
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: know that you'all heard me talk about him before. I
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: think's the hell of a football coach. He's won double
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: digit games back to back years in Missoo, He's going
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: to do it again this year. So Thing Drink is
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: certainly a candidate that you should consider Brin Keys, somebody
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: that if you want to you want to get back
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: to the DNA of what L s U football was,
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: Brent Key is probably the best answer there. Uh, We've
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: already talked about Marcus Freeman and we'll continue to talk
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: about Lane Kiffen. But John Sumraw is certainly a name
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: to pay attention to because he's probably the biggest name
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: of the group of six guys right to make that
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: jump to the power for like, he's the hottest name there.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll just yeah, we're gonna be interested on who
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: is going to be making that decision, so we'll be
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: excited to figure it out for right now, let's go
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Frank all right, those boys, Right.
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: We do have some more L s U news.
• 32:48
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• 32:50
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• 32:51
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• 32:53
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• 32:55
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• 32:56
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  Speaker 4: All right, welcome back, Yeah no TV here live from
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: the Raising Kines studio. This just comes across the wire.
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: I saw DELI had it maybe first, doesn't really matter.
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: Pete Damill had it as well. Has dismissed the offensive coordinator,
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: Joe Sloan. The move comes with LSU ranked at number
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: twelve on offense in the SEC.
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: Of course, he spent four years on the staff.
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  Speaker 4: A couple of quarterback coach and a couple as co
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  Speaker 4: offensive coordinator, even though he was obviously the play caller.
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  Speaker 4: Lshu's offense was among the top ten and passing offense
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: and top twenty five in total offense in the country
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: last year under Sloan. But of course those numbers have
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: dipped here this season, and it's been egregious some of
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: the things that we've seen on film. It's been some
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: elementary stuff, and it's been things that just can't happen
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: like the other night. And again, we're not gonna get
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: into the breakdown the game like we want to today
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: because obviously the newser head coach gets fired but at
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: some point, certainly with the bye week and us having
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: some extra time here, we'll get into it. When we
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: show you the passing chart of this game. You're not
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: gonna believe us. You're just not going to You're gonna say, no,
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: that's just. Oh you gave Harlowe your two year old
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: daughter a marker and said, hey, place dots on this
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: piece of paper.
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: But you can't do it in the middle. You can't
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: do it.
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: There's there's tape, crime scene tape in the middle of
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: the football field, and you can't.
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: You can't put a dot there. That's what it looks
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: like because.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: It wasn't good.
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: The RPO stuff, the behind the stick stuff, the screen
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: passes on third and seven, the draws on third in
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: a country mile, just.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: It.
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  Speaker 5: He got into a point where there.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Was no like it was just the offense was you know,
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna say that he needs to be
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: more creative. It wasn't a creativity issue. It was a
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: it was an issue where it got into it. It
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: just wasn't they just run like real football plays up there.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: I run normal passing concepts. The answers that we had
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: in big down and distances, the answers that we had
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: when it mattered were the same, and they were reused
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: and recycled, and everything was outside of the hash, outside
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: of the numbers. How many like every pass, even even
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: passes that were completed the other day in the game,
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: it all looked hard, like hitch routes to the far
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: side of the field versus versus a corner that's sitting
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: on a hitch route. Yeah, sure, we completed it sometimes
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: and it's great when you complete it and the things
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: get overlooked. But everything is just looked hard. We complete
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: one pass over the over the middle of field to
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: Aaron Anderson makes a big play, explosive play, exposed to gain. Great,
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: we didn't do it anymore. No, Now, a lot of it,
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: you know, a lot of it certainly has played design
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: and play calling, and you lack of creativity, and a
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: lot of your answers are like, we're gonna run hitch
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: routes and comeback routes to the outside, and our seam routes,
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: we're not even gonna look at them, our seam routes,
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Like I'm watching our guys get vertical down the field
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: and it's they're not running them correctly. They're not being
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: being put in position to attack the middle field A
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: lot of time, we're not running inside breaking routes, just
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: not putting guys in a good position. And then of course,
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: like we all like we've I don't know how many
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: thousands of times we can say it on the show
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: and do film breakdowns, but like wide receiver screens and
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: just bad play calls on I mean, these are things
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: that get you beat. And I know there's been a
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: lot of rumors coming out recently about like did Brian
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: Kelly take over some of the play calling. Did he like,
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: would he chime in and be like, no, run this play,
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: run that play. I don't know, we're not on the headsets,
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: but he sure sure could have it disrupts it. And
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: you know, Joe Slan like, look, he's been a part
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: of some good offenses here. Last yearnus Meyer played great.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: Nuss Meyer has been a shell of himself this year. Yeah. Now,
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: I could say that the plays have been also worse,
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: but he his play hasn't been great, so that protection
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: has been horrible. Protection has been bad. He hasn't been
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: able to read it out. I think he sees ghosts sometimes.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: I think he's playing. But like, but as a coach,
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: it's your job to develop that, your job to get
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: him comfortable at your job to run passing plays where
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: you can get your quarterback rhythm, get him out of
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: the funk.
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: To me, it was a game plan that would have
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: been very hard for anybody to be successful at a
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: high level playing the quarterback position. Now, there's some things,
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: certainly that Garrett would come in here and he would
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: own up to certainly, But when you go back and
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: you watch the tape, the things that were designed for
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: only specific parts of the football field were troublesome.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: Troublesome like.
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: Trick them high school Harry type stuff. M seven and
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: throw behind the line of scrimmage, and like, dude, you've
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: got you've got pros at receiver pros and you got
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: a tight end that's an alien. There's not many guys
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: walking the earth. It looked like Trede s Green that
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: had the skill set that he has. And you're running,
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: you're running stuff at the line of scrimmage and and
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: you don't use the middle of the football field at all.
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: And I'm not talking about your quarterback doesn't see it.
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: You didn't run there, you didn't attack there, like even
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: when when Van Buren comes in his first pass, like
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: he ripped it over the middle.
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: But like even that.
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: Was was kind of like borderline, like going down the hash. Yeah,
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: we're talking about the fastest way to the end zone
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: through the middle of the football field.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: And look and and there's a lot of times where
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: you have you know, vertical routes, three vertical routes, whatever,
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: and guys are supposed to run, you know, they're supposed
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: to run across the hash, across to the other side
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: of the hat. And you got two receivers next to
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: each other just running down vertical That's that's that's that's coaching.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: You got to you gotta have these guys understanding how
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: to run their pass routes, how to run across the
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: middle versus different coverages, and so you know, it's it's
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: it's a combination of everything, Like this is this is
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: building up. We could see this one coming from a
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: mile away. The offense has been bad, straight up. Defense
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: has been good for most part. Got they've been exposed recently, Okay,
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: got it. But the offense, you've been bad all season.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: You've been even even in the wins. Like but you know,
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: to their credit. They actually did a couple of things
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: this past game that were a little bit better. We
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: can start showing you a little bit of that stuff
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: coming up, Like we cut a lot of the RPO
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: stuff out. We had receivers block, we had receivers to
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: the run side, dig out safeties that had created explosive games.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: Why couldn't you figure that out earlier? Yeah, we ran
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: the ball, I think halland Berry averaging seven yards of carry.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: Then he gets one carry in the third quarter. I
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: get it, maybe second half, well the fourth quart I mean,
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: is it's out of hand at that point, but like, like,
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: what are we doing? It's just it seemed like the
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: job was a little a little a little bo oh
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: for sure, Over said a little bit there. Sure, So
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: this one was obviously and he gets mass. Last year
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: you have a four thousand yard passer, right yep.
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: And so like you're like, okay, well it's not it's
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: not complimentary your offense, but hell, at least you can
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: do that at a at a very high level. Its
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: second leading passer in the country. But when that went
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: to hell, what do you have?
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: What do you have?
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: You don't have a.
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: Running game, because you wouldn't commit to it. You got
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: the running backs. I mean, Harlan Barry looks like he
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: is a star. I mean his patience, his suddenness.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: And you can say like there's Lineman issues, blah bah blah.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Look around the country, there's people doing a lot more
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: with a lot less.
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: Yes, that is very very well said. So Joe Sloan
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: out as Offen's coordinator. He follows Brian Kelly out the
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: door there. So we'll update you. We'll take a break,
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: maybe find out who the play caller is. I know
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: Tim Ortay's name's being thrown out there Atkins as well.
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: We'll have all of.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: It for you.
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: It is officially okay, all right, well there you go.
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: That gun's taking over the calling.
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: And that's you know, somebody that I don't believe has
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: play calling in his past. He's been a coordinator, but
• 43:00
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  Speaker 1: From the locker room to the airwaves. Gets off the
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  Speaker 4: All Right, welcome back, gain OTV here laugh from the
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• 44:44
  Speaker 4: you kind of some examples of what happened, what went wrong,
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: what went right. Although it wasn't a lot at least
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: in the run game, you had some right. In the
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: Texas A and M game, they did run the op
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: viube again. So LSU has fired off its coordinator, Joe Sloan,
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: so it is Brian Kelly and Joe Sloan. Titans coach
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: Alex Atkins will take over as offensive coordinator. And look,
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: you got a couple of weeks. That's why you do
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: it during the bye week. You got a couple of
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: weeks to prepare for Alabama. Last time that this happened,
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: remember you go to Alabama, you were like a three
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: touchdown dog and you throw the ball in the end zone,
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: you catch it, you would have won the game. Remember
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: Derante Jones came out with a hell of a game
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  Speaker 4: plan defensively, Alabama had no idea what was going to happen,
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: and LSU got after them on defense. And it was
• 45:31
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  Speaker 4: So look, we're not even remotely close to getting ready
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: to start to talk about that game, but that is
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  Speaker 5: So it is Alex Atkins. It takes over as you'r.
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