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History Is Not What They Taught You: Kobe Boujee Breaks It Down || Masterminds Podcast EP35 · Masterminds Podcast

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SPEAKER_00: The main focus was to get numbers and I'll take them to YouTube.
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SPEAKER_02: You've done different types of content.
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SPEAKER_02: Which one do you think is closest to who you are?
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SPEAKER_00: History.
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SPEAKER_00: There are lots of things that because of politics, they had to cover it.
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SPEAKER_00: You see, the most painful thing is you see movies that relate to our stories, and now people will be like, they know we want our story, then still telling your story.
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SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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SPEAKER_00: But I don't believe that the Yasantua led a war like she stood in front and fought like.
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SPEAKER_00: There are people who were like Charlie Kwame Kuman or prayed too much into me.
0:31
SPEAKER_00: Imagine we had we had like portrayed Kekwancy well.
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SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
0:35
SPEAKER_00: Kwekwancy could have been in Disneyland.
0:40
SPEAKER_02: Hey and welcome to the Masterminds Podcast.
0:43
SPEAKER_02: As always, my name is Richie, your tour guide on the exciting journey to sharpen your most powerful tool, your mind.
0:51
SPEAKER_02: This episode is a special one.
0:53
SPEAKER_02: So let me show you my usual process for masterminds.
0:56
SPEAKER_02: So usually before you see a guest sitting here with me, it means I have researched the person, I've done background checks, I know the work that they do, the things they've achieved, and then I set questions before we have a conversation.
1:09
SPEAKER_02: Like we let the conversation flow, but I make sure I have all the knowledge before we sit down.
1:14
SPEAKER_02: But today's conversation is 100% freestyle.
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SPEAKER_02: I have done no research.
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SPEAKER_02: And the reason I've done no research and the reason this man is sitting in front of me is I keep watching his content and I'm like, whoa, this guy is smart.
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SPEAKER_02: Whoa, I like the way this guy thinks.
1:33
SPEAKER_02: So this conversation is all because the man sitting here is a low-key genius that you people are seeing as just a normal influencer.
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SPEAKER_02: He's not a normal influencer, he's a genius hiding behind the camera.
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SPEAKER_02: So I dragged him here so that we can expose his mind for you guys to see how much of a genius he is.
1:54
SPEAKER_02: Please help me welcome Kobe Bougie.
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SPEAKER_00: Mr.
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SPEAKER_00: Richie.
1:57
SPEAKER_02: How far?
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SPEAKER_00: You actually they give me some macro lead to it.
2:04
SPEAKER_02: No, but honestly speaking, you know, content is difficult to do, whatever the content it is.
2:10
SPEAKER_02: But you decide to do intelligent content.
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SPEAKER_02: I like the angle which you take things, like the way you go into the background and the way you can go into history of things and stuff.
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SPEAKER_02: It's a unique approach which shows certain intentionality.
2:26
SPEAKER_02: So I told my people, get this guy here so we can just sit down and converse.
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SPEAKER_00: And I'm honored to be here.
2:32
SPEAKER_02: Oh, thank you.
2:32
SPEAKER_02: Thank you, Pam.
2:33
SPEAKER_02: You're a legend.
2:34
SPEAKER_00: So we know everybody they get a chance.
2:37
SPEAKER_00: Give me fans, give me fans, give me fans.
2:39
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
2:39
SPEAKER_00: Charlie.
2:39
SPEAKER_02: Oh, congrats on.
2:40
SPEAKER_02: I saw 100k on YouTube.
2:43
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, actually.
2:44
SPEAKER_00: And funny enough, I just got monetized too.
2:46
SPEAKER_02: Hey shh.
2:47
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
2:48
SPEAKER_00: I wait, but yes.
2:49
SPEAKER_00: Why did you take a look at it?
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SPEAKER_00: That's the funny part.
2:51
SPEAKER_00: So I wasn't focusing on YouTube.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
2:54
SPEAKER_00: Yes, I was my main focus was to as I start this content creation thing.
2:59
SPEAKER_00: The main focus was to get numbers.
3:01
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
3:01
SPEAKER_00: And I'll take them to YouTube.
3:02
SPEAKER_00: Oh.
3:03
SPEAKER_00: But when I started, it was so sweet on the other side that I didn't really focus on YouTube.
3:08
SPEAKER_00: But then right now we didn't need the money and things.
3:10
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
3:11
SPEAKER_00: And people too, most of the time when I do the history content, I get a lot of comments.
3:15
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
3:15
SPEAKER_00: People backlash, somebody go send me DM.
3:17
SPEAKER_00: Charlie, the video will be too short.
3:19
SPEAKER_00: I'm saying so.
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SPEAKER_00: For now, I'm willing to take the the the YouTube very seriously and do so.
3:24
SPEAKER_00: It's just the shots that have got me to the 100k.
3:26
SPEAKER_00: Oh so I'm imagining when I begin to do this longer videos to be even better.
3:31
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
3:31
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
3:32
SPEAKER_02: So let's let me get to know you a little bit.
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SPEAKER_02: This one, like I said, no research.
3:36
SPEAKER_02: First of all, bro, what's your what's your real name?
3:38
SPEAKER_00: Hmm.
3:39
SPEAKER_00: Isaac Kobinyaku.
3:40
SPEAKER_00: Isaac Kobignaku.
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SPEAKER_00: That name when I mentioned people they talk say, I know they resemble Isaac.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes, Muslim.
3:46
SPEAKER_00: And I understand.
3:47
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
3:47
SPEAKER_00: Because when when I um when they gave birth to me, I wasn't Isaac.
3:51
SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay.
3:51
SPEAKER_00: Yes, I wasn't.
3:52
SPEAKER_00: So you chose the name later.
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SPEAKER_00: I was a Muslim when they gave birth to me.
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SPEAKER_00: My name was Isaka.
3:57
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
3:57
SPEAKER_00: Abdullah Issa.
3:59
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
3:59
SPEAKER_00: But then I think around before uh I wrote my BC, yes, my father converted to change my name.
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SPEAKER_00: So I asked for the Isaka.
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SPEAKER_00: The meaning is Isaac.
4:11
SPEAKER_00: So then you converted.
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SPEAKER_02: So you converted from Islam yourself or your father converted?
4:16
SPEAKER_02: My father.
4:17
SPEAKER_02: My father.
4:17
SPEAKER_02: How come did he also convert from Islam that's why?
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SPEAKER_00: That's how we we and I was I was young.
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SPEAKER_00: I was young to make any decision.
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SPEAKER_00: So we had no choice but to do it.
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SPEAKER_02: So now as you live right now, are you a Muslim or you're a Christian?
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SPEAKER_00: I'm a Christian.
4:30
SPEAKER_00: Right now I'm a Christian.
4:31
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
4:32
SPEAKER_00: Even when I was a Muslim, cra you.
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SPEAKER_00: Even though I used to pray, yes.
4:36
SPEAKER_00: Because my mom, I used to, even though I lived with my my dad, sometimes I go to my mom.
4:41
SPEAKER_00: And when I go to my mom, I'll go to church as a Muslim.
4:44
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
4:44
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so I was like Kohabraha.
4:47
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
4:47
SPEAKER_00: So when I became a Christian, it wasn't anything different.
4:50
SPEAKER_00: But I can pray like a Muslim too.
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SPEAKER_00: I can pray and do everything as well.
4:53
SPEAKER_02: Interesting.
4:54
SPEAKER_02: Let's let's jump straight into your content.
4:57
SPEAKER_02: What has informed your content style of deciding to give people facts?
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, so for those of you who know Kobibouji, when I started, it's not too different for what I was what I'm doing now.
5:09
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
5:09
SPEAKER_00: When I started, I was talking about childhood memories, the thing we used to do, Zanzama.
5:14
SPEAKER_00: Some funny things nobody would think that's what we'll talk about, even though we think about it all the time.
5:19
SPEAKER_00: People will not even like think of creating content about it.
5:22
SPEAKER_00: Those were the things I was doing.
5:23
SPEAKER_00: So when I started, people were like engaging, people love the kind of content I was doing.
5:28
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
5:28
SPEAKER_00: And at some point, too, I was doing some mono skates, me alone, I'll be create, I'll be playing different characters and all of that.
5:35
SPEAKER_00: At some point, I was reacting to music.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes, celebrities, their music.
5:39
SPEAKER_00: Sometimes I'll create a character and like I'm creating a music video and all of that.
5:43
SPEAKER_00: And I got to a certain point, I was creating this kind of content called what your favorite color says about you.
5:48
SPEAKER_00: Like what your shirt says about you, what your um short says about you.
5:52
SPEAKER_02: So what does black say about you?
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SPEAKER_00: Black says a lot.
5:54
SPEAKER_00: Black says someone who's like bold, someone, yeah, someone when you are like bold, you don't care, you don't really care what people think.
6:01
SPEAKER_00: Correct.
6:02
SPEAKER_00: You are bold with your decision and all of that.
6:03
SPEAKER_00: So this is what I was doing.
6:05
SPEAKER_00: And then I did one particular content.
6:07
SPEAKER_00: I said, What your favorite team says about you.
6:09
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
6:10
SPEAKER_00: And funny enough, I'm not really like a sports guy, even though I play football and all of that.
6:14
SPEAKER_00: But when it comes to details and facts about sports, I don't really know.
6:17
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
6:17
SPEAKER_00: But then I made that content.
6:19
SPEAKER_00: And then funny enough, like one month later, that content just blew up.
6:24
SPEAKER_00: I had an email from um a producer on a on a Premier League show.
6:28
SPEAKER_00: And I didn't even believe that it was real.
6:30
SPEAKER_00: Interesting.
6:30
SPEAKER_00: Yes, I didn't even believe that it was real.
6:32
SPEAKER_00: But then I answered them.
6:33
SPEAKER_00: So I think that the the email came on Tuesday.
6:36
SPEAKER_00: They said the interview will be on Friday via Zoom.
6:40
SPEAKER_00: And I didn't tell anyone because I was scared that Charlie sometime you know, be real.
6:45
SPEAKER_00: But the whole thing was live.
6:46
SPEAKER_00: So Friday, we did the interview, and then when I went on Instagram, people were tagging me.
6:51
SPEAKER_00: I was like, ah, where are they going?
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SPEAKER_00: Not knowing people are watching.
6:54
SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
6:55
SPEAKER_00: So they videoed it on their phone and then they tagged me.
6:57
SPEAKER_00: And then that's when I went out to tell people that this happened.
7:00
SPEAKER_00: So that moment it really pay me.
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SPEAKER_00: Because if I told people, say this and this, they got seen it.
7:05
SPEAKER_00: But I feel like it's one of the biggest like things that have happened when I started creating this content thing.
7:11
SPEAKER_02: So you've done different types of content.
7:13
SPEAKER_02: Which one do you think is closest to who you are?
7:16
SPEAKER_00: I think it's um history.
7:18
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
7:19
SPEAKER_00: Yes, history.
7:20
SPEAKER_00: I I won't say closer to who I am because some people see me to be a funny guy.
7:24
SPEAKER_00: Me, I don't see myself to be a funny guy.
7:26
SPEAKER_02: But you still put a funny twist when you're talking about the history.
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SPEAKER_02: Yes.
7:30
SPEAKER_00: The reason why I did that was because even though when I started the history thing, I found out that people like the history, but it's because it's too serious, they don't like it.
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SPEAKER_00: That's why we love movies that tell the same story.
7:43
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but then we will not like documentary that tell the same story.
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SPEAKER_00: So I decided to blend the two.
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SPEAKER_02: Means I'm gonna start telling history, but mind that to be serious, but maybe I'm not funny.
7:51
SPEAKER_00: You see, yes.
7:52
SPEAKER_00: So I decided to blend when I'm saying the history, then I'll say something funny small.
7:56
SPEAKER_00: So sometimes people will find that when I'm speaking the English, I'm saying it's raw, like the Ghana will say it's some direct, direct English, not too correct, not too.
8:05
SPEAKER_00: I'm trying to take out all those big, big English that people avoid when it comes to history.
8:10
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yes, and the difficult part about my whole job is like I'm convincing the history 30 minutes because you don't want to watch 30 minutes documentary, you came to me.
8:19
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so I'm putting I'm supposed to compress everything to two minutes, yeah, one minute, so that you enjoy me.
8:25
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
8:26
SPEAKER_00: So the history really tells a lot about me.
8:28
SPEAKER_00: And one thing that helped me a lot is when I'm telling the history, maybe about a particular area, because I've lived the bougie lives more, I've lived the brook lives more, I've lived in certain areas, I'm able to explain these things like I am there.
8:45
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
8:45
SPEAKER_00: So some of these stories when I'm saying that people will say, like, ah, now you were you there, you just read the thing, you are saying it like you are there.
8:51
SPEAKER_00: But that is how I decide to narrate it to people.
8:53
SPEAKER_00: And funny enough, or lucky enough, people enjoy the way I do my HD.
8:58
SPEAKER_00: People do HD online, a lot of people.
9:00
SPEAKER_00: A lot of people do.
9:01
SPEAKER_00: A lot of people, but you're just it's just yes, I don't know what's so unique, but people find mine unique, and I'm so lucky.
9:08
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I think what is unique is that you're just being you.
9:11
SPEAKER_02: Yes, you are not trying to do it the way anybody else does it.
9:15
SPEAKER_02: That's the funny thing.
9:16
SPEAKER_02: I don't think there's anyone who's unique who thinks they are being unique.
9:19
SPEAKER_02: Unique, yes.
9:20
SPEAKER_02: To them, they're just being them.
9:21
SPEAKER_02: So anyone who's not coming out as unique, it's rather because you are trying to be someone else, like someone else.
9:27
SPEAKER_02: Yes, yeah.
9:27
SPEAKER_02: Yes, yes.
9:28
SPEAKER_02: Like every time I sit here, I just talk, I just do it the same way.
9:32
SPEAKER_02: Like if the cameras were off, we would be having the exact same conversation.
9:36
SPEAKER_03: Yes, so exactly.
9:38
SPEAKER_00: So that's that's the same way that I chose the history thing.
9:41
SPEAKER_00: And one thing too, I discovered when I started the history thing, I realized there are lots of things that they should they sugarcoated it in classrooms.
9:49
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yes, because sometimes they even twisted it completely.
9:53
SPEAKER_00: Yes, so I'll read something and I'll I'll go and see something, I'll like ah, this thing it'd be like this way, then tell we different way, yeah.
10:01
SPEAKER_00: Or do it's because they thought we were children, but I don't think it's the right way.
10:05
SPEAKER_00: No, there are lots of things that they covered.
10:07
SPEAKER_02: Right now, I've opened the Pandora's box.
10:09
SPEAKER_02: Let's let me go there.
10:11
SPEAKER_02: Do you think our educational system twisted our history to sort of indoctrinate as the wrong way?
10:18
SPEAKER_00: Yes, a lot.
10:18
SPEAKER_00: A lot.
10:19
SPEAKER_00: There are lots of things that because of politics, they had to cover it.
10:23
SPEAKER_00: There are lots of things that because they think it's too exposed for their children, so we should cover it.
10:29
SPEAKER_00: You know, come to talk, uh, come to think of it, something like let me say sex.
10:33
SPEAKER_00: You can't discuss sex with an African parent, it's very difficult.
10:36
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so when you take that one, for example, there are sort uh sorts of things that they'll cover in the books, they'll not put their details there.
10:43
SPEAKER_00: They're expecting that when you grow, you go and do your research.
10:45
SPEAKER_00: And which with the way the system they when you grow, you are looking for a job.
10:49
SPEAKER_02: You're not time to go and do the research.
10:51
SPEAKER_00: You understand me?
10:52
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
10:52
SPEAKER_00: So when I found this part, I felt like, yo, this is me.
10:55
SPEAKER_00: Because me naturally, me, me pain fi moo.
10:58
SPEAKER_00: Yes, when you tell me something, I'll take it too.
11:01
SPEAKER_00: But me myself, I went and do research about it.
11:04
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
11:04
SPEAKER_00: So when I found this, I was like, okay, this is me.
11:07
SPEAKER_02: So what are some parts in our history that you've done research and realized that they twisted the stories more?
11:13
SPEAKER_00: Hey, this one, hmm.
11:15
SPEAKER_00: A lot of it, okay.
11:17
SPEAKER_00: Let me take one person like uh Kwame Kuma.
11:20
SPEAKER_00: A lot of things about that man they didn't tell us.
11:23
SPEAKER_02: Tell me some, tell me some.
11:25
SPEAKER_00: Oh, like how he was overthrown, uh, the process, how uh the CIA, yeah, you know, got in the heads of some of our leaders, and they overthrew this man, the plans that he had, yeah, and all of that.
11:40
SPEAKER_00: They don't never tell you even uh um what's the name?
11:44
SPEAKER_00: Kwame Kuma, how he even came to Ghana.
11:48
SPEAKER_00: There are a lot of stories.
11:49
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, there's this um documentary.
11:51
SPEAKER_00: I think this information about Kwame Kuma, it's called the Circle.
11:55
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
11:55
SPEAKER_00: That's one uh I think it was it was a group he was in, yes, with a lot of people before he came to Ghana.
12:02
SPEAKER_00: And these people they were they were uh recruiting a lot of people who were who had like political influence.
12:08
SPEAKER_00: These people they'll talk to them.
12:10
SPEAKER_00: All they were doing is trying to create a pan-African, like where Africans will come together and all of that.
12:15
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but people don't know about that kind of story.
12:18
SPEAKER_01: Interesting.
12:19
SPEAKER_00: You realize Kwame Kuma, he had uh um um links and and relationship with other people, like this.
12:26
SPEAKER_00: There's this sheikh who came to pray before they built the those stories you never hear them.
12:33
SPEAKER_00: Like there are lots of stories.
12:34
SPEAKER_00: I don't know where to start and where to end, but there are lots of stories to the Kwame Kuma story, like a simple, a simple history.
12:40
SPEAKER_00: The the costume Kwame Kuma wore on uh the uh the podium, okay, where he announced the independence.
12:45
SPEAKER_00: This is something you should have told us that the cap he was wearing was uh prison graduates.
12:51
SPEAKER_00: This uh bagakari that he got he got it from the northern side when someone soiled his white shirt and then they gave it to him as a gift.
12:58
SPEAKER_00: Those people on the podium, we don't even know them.
13:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, there are lots of people who don't know who they are, yes, but we have big six and the big six too when you read their story.
13:07
SPEAKER_00: All of them I don't know, but let me get into it.
13:10
SPEAKER_00: The big six when you read into their story, you find out that there's no big six because most of them sold out, yeah.
13:17
SPEAKER_00: Most of them sold out, they're sold out.
13:18
SPEAKER_00: There are people who are like Charlie Kwame Kuman or pray too much into me.
13:22
SPEAKER_00: Yes, and Kwame Kuma to take when when they when they cut them, all of them remove the hand, they say they don't know what is going on.
13:28
SPEAKER_00: And Kwame Kuma don't have to take the the the this one, but right now there's big six.
13:32
SPEAKER_00: A big six, the big six title was just a headline that they give to them, yeah.
13:36
SPEAKER_00: But now it has become something that is on our money, currency, and all of that.
13:40
SPEAKER_00: And I don't mean for me at a point.
13:43
SPEAKER_00: I used to say that they should take down that image.
13:45
SPEAKER_00: But me, I feel like it's a street that we know.
13:47
SPEAKER_00: We read about them, we don't know the entire story.
13:50
SPEAKER_00: Maybe some of those people contributed a lot, but they are not in there.
13:54
SPEAKER_00: Someone like me, for me, the basis.
13:56
SPEAKER_00: If you ask me to choose bases, someone like Par Grant is not in there.
14:00
SPEAKER_03: True.
14:01
SPEAKER_00: You find people like, example, like Oko EJ, Ubisani Roll Pan or play.
14:06
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but you know, you can't get explanation, but they are there.
14:12
SPEAKER_00: The independence day, all these people were nowhere to be found.
14:16
SPEAKER_00: But Bixes Niban Yaboominadi, and we have no problem with that because Ghana, if you try to fix something, it's like obiyaji said, they will attack you rather.
14:25
SPEAKER_00: Yes, yeah, yeah, because you the enjoy and it has it hasn't done any damn to uh any harm to anyone.
14:33
SPEAKER_00: So this part that I chose, history, I chose I try to educate people, saying yes.
14:38
SPEAKER_00: And I like it when I say something, people come to the comment session like tally, it's not like that.
14:43
SPEAKER_00: This I like it a lot, yeah, because we are focusing on history, yeah, we are learning it.
14:49
SPEAKER_00: People say a lot of things.
14:50
SPEAKER_00: Some people, when they come at you, they don't say it in a nice way.
14:53
SPEAKER_00: But I understand, and I like the fact that we are discussing it over there.
14:56
SPEAKER_00: And one thing that people don't get is that history is like my point of view.
15:00
SPEAKER_00: The one thing that it has to be in common is facts.
15:03
SPEAKER_00: But but then maybe it can come like, for example, you are here, someone came from here to slap you.
15:08
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, when I was here, I saw him come to slap you.
15:11
SPEAKER_00: But someone was outside saw that the guy was coming with a knife.
15:15
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he put the knife down and came to slap you.
15:17
SPEAKER_00: So that the description will be different.
15:19
SPEAKER_00: But at the end of the day, there was a slap.
15:20
SPEAKER_02: Yes, yes, so that fact needs to stay the same.
15:23
SPEAKER_00: That's one thing that history has to be.
15:24
SPEAKER_00: So when people come to me in the comment section and say some things, I don't even get mad at them.
15:29
SPEAKER_02: Let me test your knowledge on history that has been twisted small.
15:34
SPEAKER_02: Do you know the full story of Yah Santo?
15:37
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
15:39
SPEAKER_00: Yes, I know the basic facts.
15:41
SPEAKER_02: Not not the one that was taught in school.
15:44
SPEAKER_02: Additional facts, do you know those ones?
15:46
SPEAKER_00: Additional facts, yeah.
15:47
SPEAKER_00: Okay, I know uh the white people, uh, a leader came and asked to sit on the um golden stool, and he she stood up and said that no, she's not going, she's not going to agree, and it was a disrespect.
16:03
SPEAKER_00: He said that uh she said that um the leaders were supposed to stand up and fight for themselves.
16:08
SPEAKER_00: So she or Tintesuko, Egu, uh the white man.
16:13
SPEAKER_00: And one thing that people really believe is that okay, that one for that one, I won't say it's a fact.
16:19
SPEAKER_00: But I don't believe that Yasantwa led a war like she stood in front and fought like with them.
16:25
SPEAKER_00: But I believe she fired a gun.
16:27
SPEAKER_00: Yes, she sparked the war, but I don't believe that she fought like every man fought.
16:33
SPEAKER_00: Yes, but the reason why we praise her is because she stood up when all the men were quiet.
16:39
SPEAKER_00: That is one fact that I know.
16:41
SPEAKER_02: And I do know what led up to it.
16:43
SPEAKER_02: Have you heard about the Anglo-Assanti Wars that lasted about a hundred years?
16:48
SPEAKER_00: Yes, I've heard about those stories too.
16:50
SPEAKER_00: There are lots of things about um okay, there's this one that I heard now.
16:57
SPEAKER_00: For that one, I'm not sure, so I'll keep it to myself because Kumazi uh sorry, the Asanti people sometimes they are they don't take things in a certain way.
17:05
SPEAKER_00: They are my people, but they'll come at you.
17:08
SPEAKER_02: So maybe they'll come at me too.
17:11
SPEAKER_00: Yes, but this one is because I don't have facts, I'll I only say it at all because someone will cut to the video small go post or somewhere, talk say it back.
17:18
SPEAKER_00: So for that one, I keep to myself.
17:20
SPEAKER_00: But for Yasanta, I know the basics, I don't really know into it.
17:25
SPEAKER_00: There are a few things that I know, right?
17:27
SPEAKER_02: So the thing about the Yasantua story is there is the heroic part, there is the fact that she stood up when everybody was quiet, yeah.
17:36
SPEAKER_02: But the part they don't add to the story when they are telling you is why everyone was quiet.
17:43
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
17:44
SPEAKER_02: The part they don't add is the fact that the Ashanti and British war had gone on for about a hundred years, and the Ashanti had a strategy that they kept using against the British that kept working.
17:56
SPEAKER_02: Um, I don't know if you ever heard the term ukuma pema pemba.
18:00
SPEAKER_02: If you kill a thousand, a thousand more will come.
18:02
SPEAKER_02: Because they had this strategy that they used to hide under the earth, and you know, they would disguise themselves so when the British are coming to fight them, they don't actually see how big the army is.
18:14
SPEAKER_02: Before they know, they'll just yes, so they kept losing battles and they didn't understand.
18:19
SPEAKER_02: So eventually they paid someone who revealed the strategy.
18:24
SPEAKER_00: Uh Kwamichia, uh a certain man, Kwamichia or something.
18:28
SPEAKER_00: That's the name, yeah.
18:28
SPEAKER_02: I actually never knew the name, so thank you.
18:31
SPEAKER_00: Kwamichia, yeah, I think that's the name Kwamichia.
18:33
SPEAKER_00: They say he was the one who pointed the the the the like the secrets about the Ashanti's to the people.
18:40
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Kwamichia, I think that's the name.
18:41
SPEAKER_02: So when that happened, uh the Ashanti's lost the battle.
18:44
SPEAKER_02: Battle, yes.
18:45
SPEAKER_02: So at the time when the British wanted to fully dominate, and now say they'll sit on the golden stool and everything, at that point in time, they didn't have a strategy to win.
18:58
SPEAKER_02: And this was the British, yes.
18:59
SPEAKER_02: No, the Ashanties didn't have a strategy to win.
19:03
SPEAKER_02: Okay, this was the first time they had been defeated in a very big way.
19:06
SPEAKER_02: Okay, so the conversations that were being had, see, it's not as clear-cut as it's put.
19:11
SPEAKER_02: Yes, the conversations that were being had was on let's retreat, let's re-strategize, then go back again, and then go back again.
19:20
SPEAKER_02: Whereas Yasantwa was like, No, you guys are being cowards.
19:25
SPEAKER_02: We need to go back now.
19:27
SPEAKER_02: We are their shanties, we are strong enough, let's go fight and let's go win.
19:32
SPEAKER_02: Okay, and you're right on the fact that she's not a warrior, she was the queen mother.
19:37
SPEAKER_02: First of all, she was over 60 years, yes.
19:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so she's the queen mother, so she inspired them to go and fight.
19:43
SPEAKER_02: She didn't lead them, but we really figure some uh Cynthia.
19:48
SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
19:50
SPEAKER_02: And then the funniest part of the story that they don't tell you because the British are the ones who wrote the story for us, is that that battle which she inspired them to go and fight was the final battle that made the British colonize Ghana.
20:06
SPEAKER_02: Okay, because they hadn't been able to capture their shanty.
20:12
SPEAKER_02: So when they went for that final battle inspired by her and lost completely where she was now exiled and everything, the British took over.
20:24
SPEAKER_02: So her brave action was not so brave enough, and that is what made us be colonized.
20:32
SPEAKER_00: Okay, okay, yes, I get it.
20:34
SPEAKER_00: Do you do you get it?
20:35
SPEAKER_00: I get it, and it's true, yeah, yeah, it's true.
20:37
SPEAKER_02: So sometimes you have to ask yourself so like Yasanto was a great person, she was very brave to stand up in such a difficult time, but sometimes you have to ask yourself why our educational system, which was given to us by the victor, and the victor wasn't us, is celebrating the one person whose actions led to our colonization, and it's not celebrating the people who in over a hundred years kept defeating them.
21:08
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so me, what I would say to defend our people is you see the way sometimes when you read about the uh maybe let's say the British people, yeah, they try to sugarcoat some of the stories about their heroes, yeah.
21:22
SPEAKER_00: Even though it's not true, they'll try to make it look heroic like it happened.
21:26
SPEAKER_00: I think that was what they were trying to do.
21:28
SPEAKER_00: If that's what I'm thinking, I don't know if it's true.
21:30
SPEAKER_02: I mean, we have to celebrate our people.
21:32
SPEAKER_02: Yes, I only just always wonder why we don't celebrate the rest as much.
21:39
SPEAKER_00: Yes, because there are a lot of people.
21:41
SPEAKER_02: You see, there's one this one story I read about do you get me?
21:45
SPEAKER_00: There's this one man I read about Dentura people.
21:48
SPEAKER_00: This story that I read, they said there was this there were three people, four actually.
21:52
SPEAKER_00: I think the the Ashanti's were going for a war, and they they they consulted the the oracle who told them that before.
22:00
SPEAKER_00: Win the war, they have to sacrifice four people.
22:02
SPEAKER_00: Oh, one man that that video is there right now.
22:05
SPEAKER_00: When you go there, there's one man that had to bury, he will carry the weapons, bury alive, and he will carry the weapons.
22:12
SPEAKER_00: And though in the pot they'll cook like medicine where the people used to bath.
22:16
SPEAKER_00: Wow.
22:17
SPEAKER_00: And one person too will go to the war, but then he will die at the war front.
22:21
SPEAKER_00: And one person too, they had to cut his mate into pieces and spread it across the cities.
22:26
SPEAKER_01: Wow.
22:27
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
22:27
SPEAKER_00: And there's one to who they say will go to the war, but when he returns, he will die one week later.
22:32
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
22:33
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
22:33
SPEAKER_00: So that man, when you go to the uh Menshia Palace, there's a certain seat beside Asantene.
22:38
SPEAKER_00: No one sits on that seat.
22:40
SPEAKER_00: When Asante is not around, he's around.
22:44
SPEAKER_00: Last story you barely hear it, but it's there.
22:46
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
22:47
SPEAKER_00: I found out I was like, ah, really?
22:50
SPEAKER_00: This story is not really out there like that.
22:52
SPEAKER_00: You never hear it.
22:53
SPEAKER_02: I mean, there's there's so many stories that I think I think one thing that Africans haven't done too well at is telling our stories.
23:01
SPEAKER_00: The most painful thing in this world, yes.
23:03
SPEAKER_00: You you see, the most painful thing is you will see movies that relate to our stories, and now people will be like, ah, and we want our story, then still know you're not telling your story.
23:11
SPEAKER_00: Yes, let me use one example.
23:13
SPEAKER_00: This the Superman guy who came, Superman look alike, maybe Superman, Superman look alike who came, yeah, and came to meet uh that anti.
23:23
SPEAKER_00: Oh, Charlie.
23:24
SPEAKER_00: Imagine I said in the video that imagine we had we had like portrayed Kekwancy well.
23:30
SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
23:31
SPEAKER_00: Kekwansi could have been in Disneyland.
23:32
SPEAKER_02: Oh, wait, but you know Kwekwana is in Marvel, right?
23:35
SPEAKER_02: Yes, Kwekwana was actually as a character in the Spider-Verse.
23:40
SPEAKER_00: Yes, that's one thing people don't know.
23:41
SPEAKER_00: Kwekwanasi's story, it traveled from Ghana to Jamaica.
23:44
SPEAKER_00: Jamaica became popular when they went to America.
23:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
23:48
SPEAKER_02: Because also in this um series, American Gods, they used Kwekuana as a god, he was an African god.
23:55
SPEAKER_00: Really?
23:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
23:57
SPEAKER_02: So the the the entire series is about the different gods that had come to America from their from different cultures.
24:05
SPEAKER_02: So there was a Mexican one, there were different gods.
24:08
SPEAKER_02: So the god that came from Africa was Quekwan.
24:10
SPEAKER_02: They called him Quekuana.
24:14
SPEAKER_00: You see, there's there are lots of stories.
24:15
SPEAKER_00: Uh this cartoons, uh Captain Planet.
24:18
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yes.
24:19
SPEAKER_00: There's a part of the story where the reason why they were defending people were the uh um the what's the name, Seth?
24:26
SPEAKER_00: Profunding.
24:29
SPEAKER_00: The killers, no, yes, the killers, no, they were supposed to attack a certain mountain and take something.
24:35
SPEAKER_00: And and the person who was supposed to defend them, the first warrior was it was from Ghana.
24:40
SPEAKER_00: Okay, like the place I think was in Ghana or something.
24:43
SPEAKER_00: When I read a story, it was something like that.
24:45
SPEAKER_00: There's details to the story, yeah.
24:46
SPEAKER_00: But I think there's there's a real story behind the whole thing.
24:49
SPEAKER_00: I was trying to read, you know, feather, but then my man caught feather, but I realized there was a true story behind the whole thing.
24:56
SPEAKER_00: When you look at Black Manta like this, there are lots of cultures about Ghana that was portrayed in there.
25:01
SPEAKER_00: Yes, but we never focused both the part one and the part two.
25:06
SPEAKER_00: Yes, I actually did one video about when uh Kiomonga went to the museum, okay, and they were showing him the mask they are taking.
25:14
SPEAKER_00: They were displaying at the museum.
25:15
SPEAKER_00: They said one is from the Bobo Shanti from Ghana.
25:19
SPEAKER_00: Okay, they said Bobo Shanti tribe from Ghana.
25:22
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, Bobo Shanti tribe is never from Ghana.
25:24
SPEAKER_00: Yes, they were inspired by the Ashanti people, but it was established in Jamaica.
25:29
SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
25:30
SPEAKER_00: Yes, and that mask they were talking about is not even from Ghana, it's from Burkina Faso.
25:34
SPEAKER_02: But they just took parts of the knowledge from here, part of it from here and blended it together.
25:39
SPEAKER_00: But the mask is a real one.
25:41
SPEAKER_00: It was just a clone in the movie, but it's from Burkina Faso.
25:46
SPEAKER_02: So why can't we use our own stories and tell them in this beautiful way?
25:52
SPEAKER_02: I always ask myself that we have such powerful stories.
25:55
SPEAKER_00: Very, very, very ones that yes, tongue cry, it's my jaw was baby.
26:00
SPEAKER_00: Thank you, but we don't like it, you know.
26:01
SPEAKER_02: And I I believe that's one thing that the West has done very, very well.
26:06
SPEAKER_02: Like, why do we know um Zeus and Hercules and Thor and Odin?
26:12
SPEAKER_02: These are their gods, these are the Greek gods, the um Norse mythology that they believed in.
26:18
SPEAKER_02: Yes, they believed in those things.
26:20
SPEAKER_02: Why do they have movies about them and we see Thor and we think, hey, Thor is a hard guy?
26:27
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
26:27
SPEAKER_02: We like who's going to do a movie about Nogopo?
26:31
SPEAKER_00: Nobody, and you know that you know, you know, you know Nogopo is not even a god.
26:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Nogopo is just justice.
26:37
SPEAKER_00: Yes, I know.
26:38
SPEAKER_00: I had Nogoko is the name of the town.
26:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
26:41
SPEAKER_00: Do you they say the meaning is do you will you stay in peace?
26:44
SPEAKER_00: Oh yes, the name of the god.
26:46
SPEAKER_00: Something, something jackata.
26:48
SPEAKER_00: Maybe I don't know, I beg you.
26:49
SPEAKER_00: Uh but the real name of the god is there.
26:51
SPEAKER_02: But the reason why people know please put in the comments the real name of the God.
26:54
SPEAKER_02: I need to know this.
26:55
SPEAKER_00: They say Nogoko is just the place, but the God is there, and that place you can't steal over there.
26:59
SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay.
27:00
SPEAKER_00: Someone can leave the phone over here, go, and the phone will be will be there.
27:04
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, there are lots of stories over here.
27:05
SPEAKER_00: There's this one about this this this god.
27:09
SPEAKER_00: Okay, yes, that this is not even a god, it's not from Ghana.
27:12
SPEAKER_00: But okay, let me ask you what do you know about uh Marie Jata?
27:17
SPEAKER_02: Actually, I don't know the story behind it, but what have you heard in Ghana?
27:20
SPEAKER_00: I mean so be casting Marija Marijata.
27:22
SPEAKER_00: What do you hear?
27:23
SPEAKER_00: Scary, yes, but Marijata has nothing to do with that.
27:26
SPEAKER_00: Okay, Marijata is Sundiata Kita, the guy who established the Mali Empire before uh this this man, the gold guy before Mansa Musa.
27:35
SPEAKER_00: Mansa Musa, yeah.
27:36
SPEAKER_00: Man Samusa being grandchildren, grandchild, grandchild, grandchild.
27:39
SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
27:40
SPEAKER_00: The Sundiata no, his nickname is another was uh was Marijata.
27:46
SPEAKER_02: Oh, interesting.
27:47
SPEAKER_02: Yes, I never knew that.
27:48
SPEAKER_02: Nope.
27:49
SPEAKER_00: Even this one, I think this one made when I did that content.
27:51
SPEAKER_00: Fuse made a song about it.
27:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's okay, okay, okay.
27:55
SPEAKER_00: Yes, a song called Sundiata.
27:56
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yes.
27:57
SPEAKER_00: So Sundiata is called Marijata, and that Mami Wata they are talking about the Mami Wata, and it was a cult that came from Sierra Leone.
28:05
SPEAKER_00: Yes, it was a cult that they were practicing.
28:08
SPEAKER_00: And they they instead of worshipping the gods that they know, someone created something from India.
28:13
SPEAKER_01: Interesting.
28:14
SPEAKER_00: A performer, a performer used to perform with snakes.
28:16
SPEAKER_00: So most of the time, when you see that Mami Water uh sculpture, it's it's a design of some snake performer being in India.
28:23
SPEAKER_01: Interesting.
28:24
SPEAKER_00: They created it and brought it, and some people over here were worshipping them.
28:27
SPEAKER_00: This our history has been so twisted up.
28:30
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
28:30
SPEAKER_00: So when you go to church, you hear me bomb it, you know, be anybody.
28:34
SPEAKER_00: Somebody where he fight given kingdom.
28:36
SPEAKER_00: You are here playing praying against the person.
28:38
SPEAKER_00: Some these are some of the stories that you never hear.
28:41
SPEAKER_00: Very, very interesting story.
28:42
SPEAKER_02: So, how do you find out all this information?
28:45
SPEAKER_00: You see, it's research, and the most interesting part and good part about the whole thing is that we don't have to go to the library.
28:51
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yes.
28:52
SPEAKER_02: Unlike those days where you have to go encyclopedia, find the library with all the hidden knowledge.
28:57
SPEAKER_00: Right now, you just click something.
28:59
SPEAKER_00: I put out a lot of information, and people are like, ah, where you go get this info.
29:03
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Charlie, it just be Google.
29:04
SPEAKER_00: We did it.
29:05
SPEAKER_00: The information is that I have to go into details.
29:08
SPEAKER_00: Sometimes I create just two minutes content and it takes me two weeks.
29:12
SPEAKER_00: It's not because I don't get the information.
29:14
SPEAKER_00: I've gotten the information, but I'm supposed to summarize the whole thing.
29:16
SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
29:17
SPEAKER_00: Summarize it into two minutes because when you leave there, someone will say, Ah, you forgot this part.
29:21
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so I have to make sure that I've said everything, not everything, but the most important thing about the whole story.
29:27
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and Africa, we have see, we have a lot of stories that when we say we are putting it out there, trust me, people will love the continent, they'll love to come here because we have a rich culture, rich culture, rich history, very rich history.
29:42
SPEAKER_02: You know, some of these amazing stories that I keep hearing.
29:45
SPEAKER_02: And and here's the funny thing about our stories, especially the spiritual stories.
29:50
SPEAKER_02: When you say the spiritual stories, it sounds like, hey, this one did, this one did but but then we are hearing other people's spiritual stories, and we are happy, and we are happy, like somebody is telling you about how all the Vikings were fighting so that they would die in war and go to Valhalla, so that when they go to Valhalla, they and Odin and Tall would celebrate for you if they talk about this guy, this giant, this giant call be a name.
30:18
SPEAKER_00: Oh, there's this giant they just revealed in Kumase.
30:21
SPEAKER_00: Uh oh, I've forgotten the name.
30:26
SPEAKER_00: Really?
30:27
SPEAKER_00: Oh, very interesting story.
30:28
SPEAKER_00: They say he was a giant in the Ashanti Kingdom.
30:31
SPEAKER_00: Okay, and his stories you barely hear them.
30:33
SPEAKER_00: Yes, people whisper about them, but you you barely hear.
30:35
SPEAKER_00: It was just recently that they unveiled this giant about him.
30:38
SPEAKER_00: I've forgotten the name, he did pay me one.
30:41
SPEAKER_00: And there's you know, there was this story about giants in uh um the vota region.
30:46
SPEAKER_02: Okay, I haven't heard all this man is a bundle of information.
30:50
SPEAKER_00: There was this giant in the vota region, and these people from uh is that Major Fair.
30:56
SPEAKER_00: No, it's not a major fair.
30:57
SPEAKER_00: There's another another city over there.
30:59
SPEAKER_00: They they migrated to the Volta region, and when they got there, they met this giant.
31:03
SPEAKER_00: So they had to find a way to conquer this giant.
31:06
SPEAKER_00: So what they did was they organized a debah for them themselves and the the people and they acted like they were coming to surrender.
31:13
SPEAKER_00: Okay, instead of that, uh they offered them food, the giants to eat the food and the food, they poisoned the food.
31:19
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so I think the man, according to the man in the documentary, he said the reason why left hand is not mostly allowed in some of the cultures in Ghana is because they they put the poison in their nails.
31:30
SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay, in the left hand, and then they put it in the food for the giants.
31:35
SPEAKER_00: But then when uh those times when you when you give someone a gift, they are supposed to test it.
31:41
SPEAKER_00: Sorry, you are supposed to taste it first and see whether it's healthy.
31:44
SPEAKER_00: So, in order to do that, they have to take one old man among the community who sacrificed himself that okay, I'll do it.
31:51
SPEAKER_00: If this is what is going to happen for us to win the war, then we'll do it.
31:54
SPEAKER_00: And then they sacrifice the old man.
31:56
SPEAKER_00: And because of this one, they were able to wipe out a lot of those giants.
32:00
SPEAKER_01: Interesting.
32:00
SPEAKER_00: The giant story, those giant stories is real, but people barely talk about it.
32:05
SPEAKER_00: People like the guan people, like this, you barely hear their story, but these are the first people, the first ethnic group to settle in Ghana.
32:12
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, most of our languages that we speak over here, the tri, the reason why you hear some language in Ghana and you hear the same thing in Chi, it's not like they copy them all, it's because of the Guan language.
32:23
SPEAKER_00: Okay, all of us came out of that.
32:26
SPEAKER_00: We developed our language out of that one.
32:28
SPEAKER_00: So you find somewhere similar.
32:29
SPEAKER_00: Uh said in Cryofood, copy you, but it's not like that.
32:33
SPEAKER_00: Some of the languages the Ghan people speak, they copied it from the Portuguese, the Q people, like something like onion.
32:39
SPEAKER_00: The Ghanai people call it Sabu Lai.
32:41
SPEAKER_00: Sabo Lai is a Portuguese word.
32:43
SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
32:44
SPEAKER_00: There are a lot of words like uh preco.
32:47
SPEAKER_00: Preco is not a tree, it's not sorry, it's not tree.
32:50
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's porco, porco in Portuguese.
32:52
SPEAKER_00: When you search for uh the name of pig in Portuguese, it's interesting when it's some something like uh Pano, Pano is Portuguese, it's not it's not tree.
33:02
SPEAKER_00: So there are lots of our words, there are lots of stories, history.
33:06
SPEAKER_00: You don't even know where to start.
33:07
SPEAKER_00: There was a point that I I tweeted on uh um X that I posted on X that Charlie at this point, some of this history mece I will give up because it's it's it's it's you you post the content and someone will send you some DM or some details, a lot of details that you are like ah, so this one day there, an example is like uh this guy uh and this man who was Kwame Kuma's right hand, uh who have forgotten the name, the Sakura man, uh Bedema.
33:37
SPEAKER_00: Yes, okay, Bedema.
33:39
SPEAKER_00: I recently put out a certain uh no, not recently, I think like two months or three months ago.
33:44
SPEAKER_00: You know, we all know that CIA inspired the coup against Kwame Kuma.
33:47
SPEAKER_00: We don't know, but have you seen the document before?
33:49
SPEAKER_00: No, I haven't.
33:49
SPEAKER_00: No, I had to post it on Instagram, uh Twitter, and people are like uh it's plain.
33:55
SPEAKER_00: I I I understood the reason why people didn't read the document because it's a it's plain, it's like doc like dictionary.
34:02
SPEAKER_00: I had to take my time to read it, very long time to read it before I understood what really happened.
34:08
SPEAKER_02: So tell me what really happened.
34:09
SPEAKER_00: Oh, I can't give you all the details, but I know say you're good at two minute summary.
34:14
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so let me let me summarize the whole thing.
34:16
SPEAKER_00: So there were leaders in the Bedema like this.
34:19
SPEAKER_00: Bedema was a very tight person of Kwame Nikuma.
34:22
SPEAKER_00: Bedema is the reason why Kwame Kuma won the election, 1951 election.
34:26
SPEAKER_00: Okay, he was in prison.
34:27
SPEAKER_00: But Bedema told the people that Kwame Kuma had a vision.
34:30
SPEAKER_00: Bedema printed, David tried to bribe him, and that money he used to buy t-shirts, make a very big image of Kwame Mikuma, portrait of him, yeah, and went across the country telling people to vote for Kwame Kuma.
34:43
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
34:44
SPEAKER_00: So when he did that for Kwame Nikuma, Kwame Kuma, when Kwame Kuma came out of prison, yes, he saw how he Bedema was released first.
34:52
SPEAKER_00: First of all, they were in prison already.
34:53
SPEAKER_00: They have been to prison countless times.
34:55
SPEAKER_00: That's how they got the name prison graduates.
34:57
SPEAKER_00: But when Kwame Kuma was coming out, he thought that when he Bedema was coming out of prison, they didn't welcome him well.
35:03
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so he went to print that cap where they were the prison graduates.
35:06
SPEAKER_00: So that's how Kwame Kuma got that cap that he used at the independent square.
35:09
SPEAKER_00: Interesting the prison graduates.
35:10
SPEAKER_00: He gave it to him and he came out.
35:13
SPEAKER_00: Bedema he did a lot of things for Kwame Kuma.
35:15
SPEAKER_00: I think it got to a certain time that he felt like you see Kwame Kuma was like a visionary leader and he was investing a lot of money in Ghana, he was doing a lot of things, and Bedema was like, no, Kwame Kuma actually they waste a lot of money in in the investment too much.
35:30
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so he decided he spoke about it, and then the way he spoke about it wasn't right.
35:36
SPEAKER_00: So actually they they asked him to step aside.
35:39
SPEAKER_00: Yes, and because of that, he too he went to business, yes, or fire drink.
35:45
SPEAKER_00: And before that, he was a man who used to go to the US and everything.
35:48
SPEAKER_00: The dam that they built like this, he went to uh America to converse, uh have a conversation and everything.
35:55
SPEAKER_00: He was part of the the the major thing, okay.
35:57
SPEAKER_00: And the dam that that dam, that Kosumbo dam stuff I feel like they're for do movies about that, but that would be for another because there are a lot of stories.
36:04
SPEAKER_00: People have to die, they had to bury villages under their Kosumbo dam.
36:07
SPEAKER_00: But that's for another story.
36:08
SPEAKER_00: Bedema played a very crucial role by just at the end, that some things go to his head.
36:14
SPEAKER_00: They gave him money.
36:16
SPEAKER_00: They gave him money at some point when they when they sent him on exile, they sent him to exile, he was meeting in Togo with people, according to the documentary.
36:24
SPEAKER_00: He was meeting with Togo.
36:25
SPEAKER_00: The people conspired against Kwame Kuma.
36:27
SPEAKER_00: Buzia was part.
36:28
SPEAKER_00: A lot of people, those people who did the first school, yeah, those people they were part.
36:32
SPEAKER_00: So they decided to fund the people over here.
36:35
SPEAKER_00: Before that, they had tried Kwame Kuma like countless times.
36:38
SPEAKER_00: There was this there's this one name that they use in Northern Region, they celebrated over there.
36:42
SPEAKER_00: The day they tried to bomb Kwame Kuma that it doesn't work.
36:45
SPEAKER_00: That's just one of it.
36:46
SPEAKER_00: Kwame Kuma, they tried to kill him like four times.
36:49
SPEAKER_02: Many times, yeah.
36:49
SPEAKER_00: And that Kwame Kuma too, he was he wasn't a guy that had only one religious, uh like religion or one uh spiritual source.
36:58
SPEAKER_00: If you be Malam, you want help, he could take you.
37:00
SPEAKER_00: Up to now, people don't know that Kwame Kuma had this Muslim mathematic place.
37:05
SPEAKER_00: People don't know.
37:06
SPEAKER_00: The Sheikh was the one who gave it to him.
37:08
SPEAKER_00: He you see that there's a story they say Kwame Kuma Kopa, Bosum Bifi, yeah, way by it.
37:14
SPEAKER_00: Yes, there's some truth to the story, but it's not entirely true.
37:17
SPEAKER_00: Okay, yes.
37:18
SPEAKER_00: So Kwame Kuma was the guy who was open, he loved the traditional way of things.
37:23
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
37:23
SPEAKER_00: So the Bedama people they were meeting in Togo.
37:25
SPEAKER_00: He and his people, they came from America to meet in Togo.
37:29
SPEAKER_00: Now they decided to supply weapons because right now they tried everything.
37:32
SPEAKER_00: Because Kwamikuma had a spiritual protection.
37:34
SPEAKER_00: When he's going somewhere, according to the story, when he's going somewhere, he had this Malam.
37:39
SPEAKER_00: I don't know whether you see the Muslim people, they have this man, this sheikh that he has a white beard that they put on their chain.
37:45
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, most of the time, when it's still it's also on torture, you see him too.
37:48
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
37:49
SPEAKER_00: So he would tell Kwame Kuma that don't go here.
37:50
SPEAKER_00: When you go here, this thing will happen.
37:52
SPEAKER_01: Interesting.
37:52
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
37:52
SPEAKER_00: So they missed Kwame Kuma a lot, and now they decided to paint him black to Ghanaians.
37:56
SPEAKER_00: So they told Kwame Kuma that Kwame Kuma, or she pissed at the call, crowful flowers, he's blowing our money, trying to paint them black to Ghanaians.
38:06
SPEAKER_00: So when the conversation was rising, people were accepting the fact that Kwame Kuma is actually a bad person.
38:11
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they they started saying that Kwame Kuma he wants to be the only president because when you talk about the one party state that he was introducing, people said, Oh, he's an antichrist.
38:20
SPEAKER_00: Then then so when you realize the documentary, they've read uh they've written uh Kwame Kuma Bon Sam, Kwame Kuma Antichrist, and all of those things.
38:28
SPEAKER_00: They tried to paint him black, and that's why they got a chance.
38:31
SPEAKER_00: The CIA people trying to they they they started entering places, and then the coup happened.
38:37
SPEAKER_00: So before Kwame Kuma was about to travel, Kwame Kuma, you knew about the coup.
38:40
SPEAKER_00: People don't know about this thing.
38:42
SPEAKER_00: So he suspected the coup before he went.
38:45
SPEAKER_00: So that's even part of why he went.
38:47
SPEAKER_00: So before he no, it's not that's not the part the reason why he went.
38:50
SPEAKER_00: Before he was about to go, he knew.
38:52
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so before he even landed where he was going, they told him that a coup has happened.
38:57
SPEAKER_00: So he knew.
38:58
SPEAKER_00: So the people who did the coup, no, they had plotted it, they were fine they were being funded by the CIA, they were being given weapons and all of that.
39:05
SPEAKER_00: And he realized after the coup happened, just three years of I think four years, there was another coup.
39:11
SPEAKER_00: Yes, those people were together, but because one people were decided to counter the power, another people also took over.
39:19
SPEAKER_00: They took the power from me.
39:20
SPEAKER_00: J.
39:20
SPEAKER_00: Ankra was the first, and then I think Buzia followed, or something like that.
39:24
SPEAKER_00: Yes, so there are lots of stories.
39:25
SPEAKER_00: The story there.
39:27
SPEAKER_02: So why aren't we sharing these stories more?
39:31
SPEAKER_02: Is it that we are not interested?
39:33
SPEAKER_02: Is it that we don't want to research and find out these stories?
39:36
SPEAKER_00: I feel like Ghana with the light soft life.
39:39
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, challenges.
39:40
SPEAKER_00: You can't remember how many time, yeah.
39:42
SPEAKER_00: Yes, we feel like you see this.
39:43
SPEAKER_00: There was this story that this trending topic about the girl who went to school, they had to cut her hair.
39:51
SPEAKER_00: Yes, and people were saying that uh masa for a long time they have been going to school and they have been cutting their hair.
39:59
SPEAKER_00: Why is it that now you won't you wanted to keep a master?
40:01
SPEAKER_00: They shouldn't do all of that.
40:02
SPEAKER_02: You have history on how the cutting hair started.
40:04
SPEAKER_00: Well, I think I already I already did a content about it like three months before the issue happened.
40:08
SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
40:09
SPEAKER_00: I talked about I talked about the reason why they cut their hair.
40:12
SPEAKER_00: The whole thing, to summarize the whole thing, the whole thing started in the castle.
40:15
SPEAKER_00: Okay, that's when the school started.
40:17
SPEAKER_00: So at that time, you know, there were mulattoes.
40:20
SPEAKER_00: I don't know whether you know what a mulatto mulatto is like a a Ghanaian who had married or given birth with someone from Europe.
40:27
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
40:28
SPEAKER_00: So you hear someone, Mila is when I was when I was growing up, my father used to say what's so similar to drying.
40:32
SPEAKER_00: I didn't understand.
40:33
SPEAKER_02: So how cool used to be half co-yes, those are the mulattos.
40:37
SPEAKER_00: So at the castles, the mulattoes were allowed to keep their hair.
40:40
SPEAKER_00: But to separate them from the indigens, the indigents were to cut their hair.
40:44
SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
40:45
SPEAKER_00: That's where the whole thing started.
40:46
SPEAKER_00: And even before that, cra we all know that slavery, before you get on the ship, they have to cut your hair.
40:50
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they will save, they will not allow you to take your hair on that.
40:53
SPEAKER_00: So, but for the school one, it started in the castles, and then it became something.
40:57
SPEAKER_00: You know, when the school thing started, we had Ghanaians who owned schools.
41:01
SPEAKER_00: But then, even though they owned a school because of the British influence over here, yeah, they were taking some of the rules.
41:07
SPEAKER_00: I mean, our educational system is so this thing in I think it mixed up, and for now, people think it's okay.
41:16
SPEAKER_00: People think it's normal.
41:18
SPEAKER_00: Masa, everyone cuts their hair, so it's normal.
41:20
SPEAKER_00: They have made us look like you know when this conversation, right?
41:23
SPEAKER_00: People are like, Masa, it's too tough to keep a black hair.
41:26
SPEAKER_00: The person has to go to a saloon and all of that.
41:30
SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, ah, do you know how difficult it is to keep someone who is white their hair?
41:35
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, black body, your hair can be like that, and you know, wash it and to no do anything.
41:39
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but someone who is white, you see their hair and you know that it takes a lot.
41:43
SPEAKER_02: But the hair knew the history behind it, yes, then it wouldn't even be an argument.
41:47
SPEAKER_02: They'll understand where it's coming from.
41:49
SPEAKER_00: Some people are saying that there have to be saloons on campuses and all of that in order to keep the whole thing going and understand.
41:55
SPEAKER_00: So, what I'm the vibe I'm getting is you need a wrong go, but they can see a bay yeah, it will take a lot of time and a lot of money.
42:02
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's in general, it's hard.
42:03
SPEAKER_02: But have they ever considered that it's difficult for black women to keep their hair because they didn't grow up maintaining it?
42:13
SPEAKER_00: See, this is the same thing I said.
42:16
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I they said the school is going to be difficult.
42:19
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, ah, if the school is not teaching us how to keep ourselves or our hair from the scratch, that was the purpose of the school.
42:26
SPEAKER_00: We go to school and we are learning the name of this president in Australia.
42:29
SPEAKER_00: Oh, things that will not yeah, fine, yes, you go to school and they'll draw a fish diagram, they'll tell you to label the fish.
42:36
SPEAKER_02: I remember when when I learned about amoeba.
42:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the most painful part of the lesson was when they said you can only see amoeba in an electron microscope and there's no electron microscope in Ghana.
42:49
SPEAKER_00: So why say you they learn a while?
42:50
SPEAKER_02: Why are they gonna meet this guy for?
42:54
SPEAKER_00: There are lots of things that we learn in school, and I'm like, they they they tell you that when you go to the capital cities of those cities, obese someone knew the capital cities of every country, but on to qua enquire code to go.
43:08
SPEAKER_00: So I didn't know the heading, yeah.
43:10
SPEAKER_02: I guess it's it's knowledge, but we don't we don't make it practical, yes.
43:14
SPEAKER_02: And what we've done is we've taken Western culture, we've taken things that benefit their culture, and we are being forced.
43:22
SPEAKER_00: We are practicing it.
43:24
SPEAKER_00: That's one thing that has really worried Africa because one thing about Kwame Kuma that people didn't know when he fought for you see Kwame Kuma, one thing about people didn't know when Kwame Kuma was coming to Ghana, he didn't want to come.
43:34
SPEAKER_00: He didn't want to come, but because they were fighting for a pan-African, like Africa to be together, yeah, they told him that you have to start from somewhere.
43:42
SPEAKER_00: That is why he came.
43:43
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because over there they were fighting for different countries.
43:46
SPEAKER_00: He wanted to go to another country, but then they told him to come.
43:49
SPEAKER_00: So when he goes to Ghana and he got the independence for Ghana, he was trying for Africa to be connected.
43:54
SPEAKER_02: And can you imagine how powerful we will become?
43:57
SPEAKER_02: Like right now, it would be a country of 1.3.
44:00
SPEAKER_02: Billion people, right?
44:01
SPEAKER_00: Look at America.
44:02
SPEAKER_00: The reason why we we look at America as a very is because they are united.
44:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
44:06
SPEAKER_02: USA, United States of Africa.
44:09
SPEAKER_00: This is one thing that you see, he he started a journey.
44:13
SPEAKER_00: He started a journey to get that thing going.
44:16
SPEAKER_00: And you know, you know how the the the cool even happened.
44:20
SPEAKER_00: He wrote a book about uh um imperialism, yeah, new new imperialism.
44:26
SPEAKER_00: And this book that he wrote, one month later, exactly one month later, they they overthrew him.
44:32
SPEAKER_02: So of course, because at a point he started to realize that, especially when he started um working with the Russians and it started it started to look like wait, this man is trying to unite all of Africa.
44:43
SPEAKER_00: It's not working, and you know, I watched this movie, I think I did a contest about it.
44:47
SPEAKER_00: I I I watched this movie, it's a series actually.
44:50
SPEAKER_00: It's called The Crown.
44:51
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
44:51
SPEAKER_00: They were telling the story about Queen Elizabeth, and they told the reason why Queen Elizabeth came to Ghana.
44:56
SPEAKER_00: That's that that dance that he had with Kwame Kuma.
44:59
SPEAKER_00: People thought it was just it was not just a dance.
45:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Kwame Kuma was leaning towards the Soviet Union, they thought he was leaning towards the Soviet Union, so they had to come and do something to let him stay.
45:08
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's why he died because they didn't even support the dance.
45:11
SPEAKER_00: Every story, every detail of the story is in that movie.
45:14
SPEAKER_00: Okay, even when that movie came out, they had to ask them to take a lot of things out.
45:17
SPEAKER_00: Okay, because they thought is exposing a lot of things, but that story is actually there.
45:22
SPEAKER_00: When Kwame Kuma was fighting for Africa to be together, people were like, Okay, so if Africa comes together, who will be the president?
45:28
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you see, these are common.
45:30
SPEAKER_00: So there's this video when they asked Kwame Kuma, will you like to be or can you be the president of Africa?
45:35
SPEAKER_00: And he answered that no, for me, I'm too small, I cannot be the president of Africa.
45:39
SPEAKER_00: These are visionaries that he did not see, people did not see.
45:42
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and Kwame Kuma was a certain man that when another country in Africa needs help, he will send them money to help.
45:49
SPEAKER_00: But people saw it like he was, or they took offshore accounts now that you could blow.
45:54
SPEAKER_00: These are our people.
45:55
SPEAKER_00: Now, years later, we have roads, we have bridges, we have a lot of buildings that are built by Kwame Kuma that we are using now.
46:02
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you can't even name one thing that was built by a certain leader that we are using now.
46:06
SPEAKER_02: And that's the amazing thing.
46:07
SPEAKER_02: Every time I'm passing by something that Nkroma built or something that he did, I'm like, wow, we are 60 over 60 years in and he's still a visionary.
46:18
SPEAKER_00: Yes, all the things that he did.
46:20
SPEAKER_00: There are things that could you believe that at some point we were making our own um radios, yeah.
46:26
SPEAKER_00: We were making our own TVs, we're making our own, we were making shoes and exporting them to Netherlands, we were making uh uh bottles.
46:35
SPEAKER_00: We had we have a clay glass factory, yeah.
46:37
SPEAKER_00: We're making our own shoes.
46:39
SPEAKER_02: Have you been to um Red Cave before?
46:41
SPEAKER_02: No, you have to go there.
46:42
SPEAKER_02: Where is it?
46:43
SPEAKER_02: It's in Tamale, Ibrahim Mohammed's place.
46:46
SPEAKER_00: Uh that building that they've designed it with, I've seen the video, but I've never been there.
46:50
SPEAKER_02: When you go there, you see the history, you read on in kroma, you see some of the things that Ghanaians were doing in that era.
46:57
SPEAKER_02: It's just amazing what we were capable of.
47:01
SPEAKER_02: That we are suddenly no longer capable of.
47:04
SPEAKER_02: When I think about the Ghana story, it reminds me of how you know um NASA went to the moon and now they've lost the technology to go back.
47:13
SPEAKER_00: You know, I saw a video about the NASA, the NASA thing, and there was this man, they said he was part of the team that you know helped the team to go to the NASA.
47:22
SPEAKER_00: And one woman asked, it no, it was a man.
47:24
SPEAKER_00: He asked him that this is a Bible.
47:26
SPEAKER_00: Swear that you people went to the moon.
47:28
SPEAKER_00: He was looking at him, he didn't say anything, and then he went.
47:31
SPEAKER_00: I was like, you people now go expose your words.
47:33
SPEAKER_00: You see, they they made us believe a lot of things that were like, hey, they obey to my younger.
47:38
SPEAKER_00: But there are a lot of things that black people even did that they don't know.
47:42
SPEAKER_00: One particular country is like Jamaica.
47:45
SPEAKER_00: I've done countless contents about Jamaica and how we are linked.
47:49
SPEAKER_00: There are some people who say that the name Jamaica is Jamayaka.
47:53
SPEAKER_00: That story, I don't have facts, so I don't believe.
47:56
SPEAKER_00: But one thing that Jamaicans believe and they know is that Asante's or the Asantis, the Fantasy, a lot of Ghanaians play the crucial role in forming the country.
48:05
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
48:06
SPEAKER_00: Stone Boy made a video.
48:07
SPEAKER_02: That's why Ghana we like regular.
48:10
SPEAKER_00: You realize, let me give you three things.
48:12
SPEAKER_00: Look at the Asante flag, the Cumerican flag, and look at the Jamaican flag.
48:17
SPEAKER_02: But the Jamaican flag and the Ghanaian flag are the same colors.
48:19
SPEAKER_00: That one put there there are a lot of there are a lot of different look at the Cumerican flag and look at the Jamaican flag, the same thing.
48:25
SPEAKER_00: Okay, the only thing is that yes, there's a cross, but the colors and everything came from the Ashanti.
48:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they have the Bobo Shanti, one of the biggest Rastafarian thing in it was inspired by the Ashanti's.
48:36
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the bobo was like a bobo tree, a rap.
48:39
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
48:39
SPEAKER_00: And the Ashanti was inspired by the people.
48:42
SPEAKER_00: When you go there, the pigeon that we speak over here, the reason why we have a different tonation or accent from the the the Nigerians is because when they went over there, when we went, uh, sorry, the the Liberians who came over here, there were some people who were called the crews.
48:58
SPEAKER_00: I don't know whether you have heard about them.
49:00
SPEAKER_00: No, they brought the pigeon to Ghana.
49:02
SPEAKER_00: To Ghana, not just Ghana.
49:04
SPEAKER_00: They settled.
49:04
SPEAKER_00: There were people who there were black people from Liberia.
49:07
SPEAKER_00: You know, black uh Liberians were um American people, the black people who were sent them back.
49:13
SPEAKER_00: So these crew people, they were people who were very good at sailing.
49:17
SPEAKER_00: So unlike the normal Ghanaians, the normal Africans who were slaves, the crew people were never treated as slaves.
49:22
SPEAKER_03: Oh, okay.
49:23
SPEAKER_00: They used to sail.
49:24
SPEAKER_00: So because of that, they saw a lot of things that the white people did.
49:27
SPEAKER_00: So when you talk about the high life, I think I've made a video about the high life like this.
49:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, a major part that started the high life came from the crew people, interesting, which was the Pamua music.
49:36
SPEAKER_00: They brought it to Ghana and we learned it.
49:38
SPEAKER_00: Let me talk about the pigeon.
49:40
SPEAKER_00: The crew people, because they live with the white people, they couldn't speak the English.
49:43
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
49:44
SPEAKER_00: So they were speaking some sort of broken English.
49:46
SPEAKER_00: And then because they were at the shores, our people started learning that kind of English.
49:50
SPEAKER_00: Because Nigerians have different accents and different tribes and all of that, they learned a different way of the pigeon.
49:56
SPEAKER_00: And then we had our way.
49:57
SPEAKER_00: So our pigeon that our people learned, the slaves, because they wanted to understand what the white people were saying and communicate in a way that they didn't understand.
50:04
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they learned the pigeon over here and took it to Jamaica.
50:07
SPEAKER_03: Oh, okay.
50:07
SPEAKER_00: So from the pigeon, it formed the creole over there.
50:10
SPEAKER_00: And then the creole is what became the patois.
50:13
SPEAKER_00: So the pigeon started like, are they go, are they come?
50:16
SPEAKER_00: But then the creole was like, as they were giving birth, the children were becoming, they were going to school.
50:20
SPEAKER_00: Because they were going to school, they started adding vocabularies that formed the creole.
50:24
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
50:24
SPEAKER_00: And then the patois came.
50:26
SPEAKER_00: The patois became like the official language.
50:28
SPEAKER_01: Interesting.
50:29
SPEAKER_00: The basic meaning of patois is like, it's like patois is a French word.
50:33
SPEAKER_00: It's just like um how I don't know how to say it, like informal way of a language.
50:38
SPEAKER_00: Patois is not really like one thing.
50:40
SPEAKER_00: Patois, but it's just because Jamaica they champion the whole thing.
50:43
SPEAKER_00: So that's what he formed the patois.
50:44
SPEAKER_00: So I think Stone Boy made a video where he said the tree is very similar to the patois.
50:49
SPEAKER_00: And he gave a certain example that people were like, hey, then I'll stone boy okay.
50:53
SPEAKER_00: I don't know whether you see that video.
50:54
SPEAKER_00: I haven't seen it all.
50:56
SPEAKER_00: He said something and he made some examples, and they're like, then okay.
50:59
SPEAKER_00: But let me give you a typical example.
51:01
SPEAKER_00: When you go to Jamaica, you hear someone say, Me, I go here.
51:06
SPEAKER_00: I mean yeah, very yeah, me I go here.
51:08
SPEAKER_00: Me I go.
51:09
SPEAKER_00: We are gonna be cutting.
51:14
SPEAKER_02: Even cheaper.
51:15
SPEAKER_02: Okay, yeah, true.
51:17
SPEAKER_02: Let me the use of the subjects, yeah.
51:19
SPEAKER_00: I guess it so there are lots of things that you you when you look at Jamaica like this.
51:24
SPEAKER_00: One person who fought for the black people over there, the nanny of the maroons.
51:28
SPEAKER_00: You barely hear that.
51:28
SPEAKER_00: So I don't know whether you know about her.
51:30
SPEAKER_02: So nanny of the maroon of the maroons is like 10 times of yes and to she actually fought.
51:37
SPEAKER_00: Okay, she was taken from Ghana, but her name is what is lost.
51:41
SPEAKER_00: But the one that people know is the nanny of the Maroons.
51:44
SPEAKER_00: Okay, some people argue that she was an um Ashanti, some people are uh arguing that she's Fanty.
51:49
SPEAKER_00: When they got over there, when they got to Jamaica, she actually fought to escape.
51:54
SPEAKER_01: Interesting.
51:54
SPEAKER_00: Now, when she escaped, she had brothers.
51:56
SPEAKER_00: One was called Kujo.
51:57
SPEAKER_00: Okay, but when you go online, they're spelling, they're spelling it Kujo.
52:00
SPEAKER_00: Uh there was one called a champo.
52:03
SPEAKER_00: Okay, but online they couldn't spell it.
52:04
SPEAKER_00: So Jamaica, when you go there, you find names like Kujo.
52:07
SPEAKER_00: Instead of the champo, they say akwampom.
52:09
SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay.
52:09
SPEAKER_00: Yes, and there's this one person too.
52:11
SPEAKER_00: I forgot.
52:12
SPEAKER_00: So they went to form a certain group in the they went to the mountains.
52:17
SPEAKER_00: So they were called the Maroons in Jamaica.
52:20
SPEAKER_00: So what they did was at night or when the white people were not aware, they'll visit the plantations and then they'll free the black people.
52:27
SPEAKER_01: Interesting.
52:28
SPEAKER_00: That's what they were doing.
52:29
SPEAKER_00: They were invading the the plantations and all of that.
52:32
SPEAKER_00: So it got to a certain time, the white people got tired and decided to have signed peace treaty with them.
52:36
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
52:37
SPEAKER_00: So they gave them a land.
52:38
SPEAKER_00: So when you go to Jamaica, there's a place called Cromante.
52:41
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
52:42
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
52:42
SPEAKER_00: But the actual spelling is Comante, which is actually in Cape Coast.
52:46
SPEAKER_00: Because they couldn't pronounce it, they gave it the name Crumanti.
52:48
SPEAKER_00: It's actually even a language over there.
52:50
SPEAKER_00: The typical, typical people speak that language.
52:53
SPEAKER_00: It's called Comante.
52:54
SPEAKER_00: But for them, they couldn't mention it.
52:56
SPEAKER_00: So they say Cromante.
52:57
SPEAKER_03: Wow.
52:58
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
52:58
SPEAKER_00: So there are people because the white people realized that if these people were together, they were powerful.
53:03
SPEAKER_00: They decided to separate them across Jamaica.
53:05
SPEAKER_00: So that is when the accent and everything changed.
53:08
SPEAKER_00: Some of them were actually taken to places like the UK.
53:11
SPEAKER_00: So you realize when you go to the UK, the roadman accent.
53:14
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
53:15
SPEAKER_00: It's similar to the Pato.
53:16
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
53:16
SPEAKER_00: But it's different.
53:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's there's some similarities.
53:18
SPEAKER_02: Similarities in there.
53:19
SPEAKER_02: That's why the Jamaicans blend so well over there, too.
53:22
SPEAKER_00: So there are a lot of things that came for actually came from Ghana, a lot of stories that people will never tell you.
53:28
SPEAKER_00: We need to know our roots.
53:30
SPEAKER_00: So yes.
53:31
SPEAKER_00: When uh I think I did a video about uh this man, uh Prince Prince England, the man this one.
53:40
SPEAKER_00: Is it Prince Charles?
53:41
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
53:42
SPEAKER_00: Prince Charles.
53:43
SPEAKER_00: He was walking and he saw a certain man who was I think uh there's there's a vapor or smoke coming, and he was doing he was blowing it on himself.
53:51
SPEAKER_00: It's called Obia in Jamaica.
53:53
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yes, and people don't understand.
53:54
SPEAKER_00: The obia came from Ghana.
53:56
SPEAKER_01: Really?
53:57
SPEAKER_00: Yes, it came from Ghana.
53:58
SPEAKER_00: So the people who the slaves who were taken to Jamaica because when they got there, they everyone lost their religion and they had come together, so they had to find a way to form a group.
54:08
SPEAKER_00: So this one brought their belief that they know.
54:11
SPEAKER_00: They were trying to fight the white people, so Abiyamini said, Oh, yes, oh yes, sir, we're powerful.
54:15
SPEAKER_00: This one brought his own, we're powerful.
54:17
SPEAKER_00: So it became it formed the the name.
54:20
SPEAKER_00: Some people believe it's obia, some people believe it's B ye.
54:24
SPEAKER_00: That's that's what they were calling it.
54:25
SPEAKER_00: So when you go to Jamaica, when you say obia, they think you're a witch.
54:28
SPEAKER_00: Okay, but it actually came from the qi word.
54:30
SPEAKER_00: Interesting.
54:31
SPEAKER_00: And and that process is what Prince Charles saw the man doing.
54:34
SPEAKER_00: He was actually cleansing himself with this one, and when he got there, he did the same thing and passed.
54:39
SPEAKER_00: But funny enough, the ObiA, because the the Maroons in Jamaica were using it as power empowering themselves to fight against the black, they banned it over there.
54:48
SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
54:49
SPEAKER_00: Yes, when so when you go to Jamaica, they banned it, they have been fighting for them to re-install and allow it, but then up to now it has not been allowed to make themselves powerful.
54:58
SPEAKER_00: But the same thing that was banned, we saw the Prince Charles using it, and it's fine, it's fine when they do it when we do it.
55:05
SPEAKER_00: Yes, it's a problem.
55:05
SPEAKER_00: So there are a lot of stories that need to be able to do that.
55:08
SPEAKER_02: See the beginning of this.
55:09
SPEAKER_02: I told you guys that he's a genius, and he said, Oh, I'm hyping him too much.
55:14
SPEAKER_02: But can you see this?
55:15
SPEAKER_00: These are things that if you know, it will help you all.
55:18
SPEAKER_00: There, I get some guy be way, they message me, they tell me, say they do animations about our gods.
55:24
SPEAKER_00: They could try to create animation for people to understand how what is going on.
55:28
SPEAKER_00: It's quite unfortunate that people don't focus on those things, yeah.
55:31
SPEAKER_00: But I just tell them that they should keep doing it, yeah.
55:35
SPEAKER_02: So, I mean, I can say it here.
55:36
SPEAKER_02: I'm actually also about to start a series on talking about the African stories.
55:40
SPEAKER_02: It will be very nice because I feel like we have so much to celebrate, but we don't, we don't, and I think a lot of people are lost, a lot of people have forgotten their greatness because they've not heard the stories about the great people.
55:54
SPEAKER_02: Anytime they are telling stories about Africans before, they make it seem like we were suffering, they talk about our losses, they never talk about what we were doing.
56:03
SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
56:03
SPEAKER_00: Like when you go to there's a place called Atomic, they never tell you that Aquamikma was trying to make them uh learn how to atomic, yeah.
56:10
SPEAKER_00: You build people don't know.
56:13
SPEAKER_00: When you go to the for instance, the uh Ashanti's, they they won't tell you a story that at some points they had to let uh uh they had to marry Mosi men and the Goomba men so that they can become stronger for a story, you know.
56:27
SPEAKER_00: Uh say you are being disrespectful.
56:31
SPEAKER_00: But when I did the content, I was glad that I found a video of the Asante king himself saying it's saying the same thing that they had to go and take Moses men to come and marry them just to get someone to be a king.
56:42
SPEAKER_02: But I think most of our people have been indoctrinated the wrong way.
56:46
SPEAKER_02: Yes, so what happens is it's not their fault when they are attacking the truth or attacking the history because of what they've been taught.
56:53
SPEAKER_02: As we are having this conversation, I know, I know this video is going to have a lot of insults.
57:00
SPEAKER_00: And now I know someone will cut some small side table somewhere, yes, because there are a lot of this history that I refuse to do it.
57:08
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, something like the Kente like this.
57:10
SPEAKER_00: Yes, I recently discovered that uh Ghana has officially made the Kente GI product for a long time.
57:16
SPEAKER_00: They have now made it.
57:17
SPEAKER_00: So right now, anyway, the Kente somewhere, they know that the original one is coming from Ghana.
57:21
SPEAKER_00: We drink champagne and all of those things.
57:23
SPEAKER_00: These things are GI product of countries, but now I think Ghana officially made it.
57:26
SPEAKER_00: That Kente story, I was trying to go in details, but then I stopped because the moment I go into details, they'll focus on the on the what I was saying instead of what right now the Kente is achieving.
57:38
SPEAKER_00: So I intentionally played a video where some kids be, I think around 1960 or something, they visited uh the queen in London.
57:46
SPEAKER_00: There were lots of kids, and every kid had to mention their name and why they were there.
57:50
SPEAKER_00: But when Queen Elizabeth got to uh the Ghanaian kid, he didn't say his name.
57:54
SPEAKER_00: When the Ghanaian kid was about to say where he's coming from, he said, No, I know you because of the Kinte, I know you are coming from Ghana.
58:00
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
58:00
SPEAKER_00: So I just played that video and talked a little bit about what the GI product is about and all of that.
58:05
SPEAKER_00: If I had gone into details about where the Kinte actually came from, yeah, could you believe that they told us that the Kinte was inspired by the spider web and those things?
58:14
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you believe that I mean that's the story I heard, yes, but it's not true.
58:18
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so no, no, no, no, no, you can't say it.
58:21
SPEAKER_00: No, I don't mean but we all know we all even the Ashanti Sankasa, they know that the Kintan, they know where it comes from.
58:29
SPEAKER_00: When the cameras go off, you tell me the story, yeah.
58:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'll tell you, I'll tell you.
58:32
SPEAKER_00: They know that they can tell yeah it's from the air people, so but a lot of things.
58:36
SPEAKER_02: Hey, I'm coming to say this, and Ashanti that's come to say this, they'll attack me.
58:40
SPEAKER_02: A lot of things from the Ashanti Empire were also borrowed from the yes because our people, even at some point, there's a whole debate over it.
58:48
SPEAKER_02: Yes, can we go into that?
58:50
SPEAKER_02: I've never said anything about Kovanochi before.
58:52
SPEAKER_02: Can we say it or we people attack us?
58:54
SPEAKER_02: They will attack you.
58:55
SPEAKER_02: Hey, Mr.
58:55
SPEAKER_00: Miyacini, yes, they refuse to say it, they refused to understand how at some points the Ashanti is had to collaborate with other tribes to fight some people, yeah.
59:04
SPEAKER_00: Yes, they collaborated with northern people, they collaborated with every people.
59:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, people don't know all of that, but there's nothing wrong with that.
59:10
SPEAKER_00: They think it's supposed to be like yes, me asantini.
59:14
SPEAKER_00: And I sometimes I understand.
59:16
SPEAKER_00: I understand because when I was doing this content about the independence of Ghana, I realized at some point the Kumasi people were missing.
59:24
SPEAKER_00: And let me tell you this fact.
59:26
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so uh uh when Kwame Kuma was fighting for the independence, some of the Asantees actually didn't want the white man to go.
59:35
SPEAKER_00: Okay, some the reason I'm saying some, and the reason is because they thought when Kwame Kuma came to overtake them, they are some of their privileges will be taken away.
59:45
SPEAKER_00: So they actually fought for the white man to stay.
59:47
SPEAKER_00: So when you look at before the 1957 independence was announced, 1951, there was an election.
59:53
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, 19, I think 53 or something, there was another election.
59:58
SPEAKER_00: 56, a year before that is one, there was another election.
1:00:02
SPEAKER_00: The 56 election was because the asante said they will not agree.
1:00:07
SPEAKER_00: If the the independence will be given, then they themselves here, but see so you mostly hear this phrase Asante your mind.
1:00:14
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yes, asanted wanted to be asantis wanted to be on their own, they didn't want to become a part of Ghana, and also the disagreeing with um air was like the volta region being added to Ghana.
1:00:26
SPEAKER_00: At first, Ghana was already divided into I think four regions.
1:00:28
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we had the gold coast colony, which was Accra and Eastern region, we had the Transvoter, which was the people, we had the Northern territories, and we had the Ashanti.
1:00:38
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yes.
1:00:39
SPEAKER_00: The reason why we have regions now is because I mean Kao says because I've done the content about it before.
1:00:45
SPEAKER_00: The reason why we have the regions we have now is because the Ashanti said they will not agree for the independence.
1:00:51
SPEAKER_01: Interesting.
1:00:52
SPEAKER_00: Yes, so they sent a petition to the Queen and they had to send Bedimandems to go to London and go and fight about it.
1:00:59
SPEAKER_00: So the condition they gave was that in order for them to agree to the independence, Ghana has to be demarcated into regions.
1:01:06
SPEAKER_00: Okay, there's a video, there's a documentary about that scrap online.
1:01:09
SPEAKER_00: They have to demarcate it into regions, and that is the only reason why.
1:01:12
SPEAKER_00: Okay, because Kwame Kuma them they wanted the independence, they agreed that okay, fine, they are they're allowed.
1:01:17
SPEAKER_00: That is why Ghana we have regions.
1:01:19
SPEAKER_00: Other than that, we will not even have this plenty of regions that we have today.
1:01:22
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, first it was 10, now it's what 16.
1:01:24
SPEAKER_02: 16.
1:01:25
SPEAKER_02: Honestly speaking, I don't know the name of all the 16.
1:01:28
SPEAKER_02: Me, I don't know.
1:01:28
SPEAKER_00: Me, every day when they ask me, they're 10 that I know.
1:01:31
SPEAKER_00: The only additional one I can add is OT region.
1:01:33
SPEAKER_02: If people ever catch me somewhere and say you mentioned the 16, I will shine myself.
1:01:39
SPEAKER_00: So there are lots of stories, there are a lot of history that we need to know.
1:01:44
SPEAKER_00: And our people to they have to allow themselves to learn.
1:01:46
SPEAKER_02: Yes, we have to allow ourselves to like be open to new information, yes, and do research.
1:01:53
SPEAKER_02: Like, as we are talking about all this, as we've spoken about Kwame and Krumma, we've spoken about Yasan to how we've spoken about all this.
1:01:59
SPEAKER_02: There's nothing, see, the same energy that you will come into the comments and use to insult us.
1:02:04
SPEAKER_02: You can also go to Google and check and check.
1:02:06
SPEAKER_02: You can go to a library and go and find out.
1:02:09
SPEAKER_02: You can ask your grandfather.
1:02:10
SPEAKER_02: Ask your grandfather.
1:02:11
SPEAKER_00: There are a lot of you, bro.
1:02:13
SPEAKER_00: There are a lot of you.
1:02:14
SPEAKER_00: There's this man called um his local name was Kwa Ansa, but his real name is the man who gave the land uh to build uh the land to them for them to build infantry pim.
1:02:25
SPEAKER_00: Kwa Buche.
1:02:26
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, he has a real name.
1:02:27
SPEAKER_00: You know, that man was actually the reason why Ghana was able to secure their land, not just Ghana alone, Nigeria, Syria alone, and all of that.
1:02:33
SPEAKER_01: Interesting.
1:02:34
SPEAKER_00: So the reason why they formed that the aborigins was because of that man.
1:02:37
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
1:02:38
SPEAKER_00: Because a certain time, I think around 18, the late 18s, they were in they were introducing bills that allowed the British people to control the land.
1:02:46
SPEAKER_00: Even though we are here, they'll control the land.
1:02:48
SPEAKER_00: And that man I'm talking about was an illiterate.
1:02:51
SPEAKER_00: He was a normal farmer.
1:02:53
SPEAKER_00: Uh, according to the story, which I don't really believe, they say he was going to a farm and went to discover some gold.
1:02:59
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
1:02:59
SPEAKER_00: And they told him that the spirit told him that that gold, no, he's supposed to use it to help his people.
1:03:04
SPEAKER_00: So he became rich.
1:03:05
SPEAKER_00: This guy became very rich.
1:03:06
SPEAKER_00: So when that bill sprang up, when he saw that, that one was an illiterate tool.
1:03:10
SPEAKER_00: They explained it to him.
1:03:11
SPEAKER_00: It was like, no, this bill that they are introducing, the land bill, that bill is called the land bill.
1:03:15
SPEAKER_00: It will allow the British to own the land forever.
1:03:18
SPEAKER_00: So he said no.
1:03:19
SPEAKER_00: You know what this man did?
1:03:20
SPEAKER_00: He came out together with um uh uh I think power grant, no, not power grant.
1:03:25
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think power grant and a couple of people to form the aborigines, right, and protection.
1:03:30
SPEAKER_00: This one.
1:03:31
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
1:03:31
SPEAKER_00: And in order for that to even work, that man had to go to London and petition to the queen.
1:03:36
SPEAKER_00: That man used this money to rent a whole ship where they went to uh um um Bill Street, down uh downing street or something.
1:03:44
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:03:45
SPEAKER_00: Yes, to send it to a certain prince, and that prince took it to the queen.
1:03:49
SPEAKER_00: And because of that, they sent the bill back that allowed them, they not they were not able to pass that bill where they wanted to pass.
1:03:55
SPEAKER_01: Interesting.
1:03:55
SPEAKER_00: But that man, you never hear a story.
1:03:57
SPEAKER_00: They normally call him Kwabuchi.
1:03:59
SPEAKER_00: That's why infantropim is called Kabuchi, because of that man, but they don't tell us the real story.
1:04:02
SPEAKER_00: The real story.
1:04:03
SPEAKER_00: That man, when you go to central region, uh yes, central region, they celebrate him a lot.
1:04:08
SPEAKER_00: But in Ghana, you never hear of that man.
1:04:10
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, meanwhile, this man played a very crucial role.
1:04:13
SPEAKER_00: It was recently, no, not recently, I think earlier this year.
1:04:16
SPEAKER_00: I did a content, I was like, ah, so this man did then we never know about him.
1:04:19
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, there's this man who is the reason why most of these African countries are enjoying the internet.
1:04:24
SPEAKER_00: He's called the father of the internet.
1:04:26
SPEAKER_00: Really?
1:04:26
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
1:04:27
SPEAKER_00: I created a content.
1:04:28
SPEAKER_00: He's alive, Paul.
1:04:28
SPEAKER_00: It's not even that he's there.
1:04:30
SPEAKER_00: He's alive.
1:04:31
SPEAKER_00: We need to share this.
1:04:32
SPEAKER_00: I did a content about him.
1:04:33
SPEAKER_00: That man is alive, he's the reason why we enjoy the internet.
1:04:37
SPEAKER_00: People don't praise that man.
1:04:39
SPEAKER_02: And there are so many stories, too, that there are conflicting histories that we don't even know what to believe.
1:04:44
SPEAKER_02: You know, I was doing a project, right?
1:04:46
SPEAKER_02: And one of the people we're talking about in the project was Agokoli.
1:04:49
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:04:49
SPEAKER_02: And then before we put out the project, someone told me, no, Rich, you be careful about this project you're putting out.
1:04:55
SPEAKER_02: Of course.
1:04:55
SPEAKER_02: And I was like, why?
1:04:56
SPEAKER_02: Then I said, Because I know that there's the Ewest story that calls Agokoli the tyrant and the very wicked ruler.
1:05:03
SPEAKER_02: Agokoli, yeah.
1:05:05
SPEAKER_02: Yes, but there's a contrary story where he's not the villain.
1:05:09
SPEAKER_00: I've never read about him before.
1:05:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so I said, What did they mean?
1:05:12
SPEAKER_02: So I went to research.
1:05:14
SPEAKER_02: So the story we have from those who ran away from Agokoli paints him as the villain.
1:05:19
SPEAKER_02: But when you go to where Agokoli was, when you go to the village over there, to them Agokoli was a good guy.
1:05:27
SPEAKER_02: Yes, to them, Agokoli was just somebody who cared so much about his people that he was protecting them from the outside world.
1:05:36
SPEAKER_02: He was putting institutions in to protect them from the white man.
1:05:40
SPEAKER_02: He was trying to build a strong nation and everything, and they misunderstood him.
1:05:47
SPEAKER_02: So there was a disagreement in his way of ruling, not the fact that he was a tyrant, he was an evil person and everything.
1:05:54
SPEAKER_02: So there are these two contrasting histories.
1:05:58
SPEAKER_00: Because me, the first time I heard it.
1:06:00
SPEAKER_00: Name, yes, I've heard his name um from people, yeah.
1:06:02
SPEAKER_00: But when I was reading, I heard his name was about when I was finding out the reason why the ever people are called Aigbe people, yeah.
1:06:09
SPEAKER_00: Yes, the Igwe people were Ghan people who stayed in the that region, yeah.
1:06:14
SPEAKER_00: That's when that was the first time I heard his name, and the the the the the thing that follows was like they said he was wicked and they were escaping from him.
1:06:21
SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
1:06:21
SPEAKER_02: So if you check the the Ghanaian history of Agokoli, he's a wicked person.
1:06:26
SPEAKER_02: But if you check from the Togo history from Noche, yes, Noche.
1:06:32
SPEAKER_02: If you check from Noche, I come for Noche, but that's a different way.
1:06:35
SPEAKER_02: If you check from Noche, the story about Agokoli, he's not a wicked person.
1:06:40
SPEAKER_02: So now I have these two contrasting stories.
1:06:43
SPEAKER_02: Which one do I or maybe put it out?
1:06:48
SPEAKER_00: Maybe they're you are boss.
1:06:49
SPEAKER_00: So if you put it out, they'll come for me or if they come for you, can you can defend me like this?
1:06:54
SPEAKER_00: I don't have kappa like that.
1:06:56
SPEAKER_00: Some of the stories I'll hide it, but uh, you like this, we can put it out.
1:07:00
SPEAKER_00: But me, maybe at some point I'll be bold enough to share some stories.
1:07:03
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, even some of these stories they are daring enough, but I put it out there.
1:07:06
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, at some point, I think we will all be bold enough to share the story.
1:07:09
SPEAKER_02: But the truth is, I really appreciate your journey.
1:07:12
SPEAKER_00: Thank you very much.
1:07:12
SPEAKER_02: Like I'm saying, I'm also about to join that journey so that more of us and everyone watching out there, look, let's tell our stories, let's tell our history, let's find out.
1:07:22
SPEAKER_02: Even if you don't have the mouthpiece and the platform to tell the story, research, tell a friend.
1:07:28
SPEAKER_02: Because when we understand the power we come from, we understand the power we wield and we'll know how great we are.
1:07:36
SPEAKER_02: But if we keep believing the narrative that we are a weak culture, we're a weak race, nothing good comes from Africa, then we will continue to diminish our lives.
1:07:49
SPEAKER_00: We believe that everything, every good thing came from the Western world.
1:07:53
SPEAKER_00: And sometimes when I talk about history and they are talking about, I talk about the bad things that they did.
1:07:58
SPEAKER_00: People think, oh, you will, you always think the Western world were wicked.
1:08:03
SPEAKER_00: Yes, the Western world played a very wicked uh I won't say wicked role, right?
1:08:07
SPEAKER_00: But yes, they colonized us, but in a way they helped too.
1:08:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean it's it's a give and take.
1:08:12
SPEAKER_02: And here's the thing me, I I never want to attack the Western world.
1:08:17
SPEAKER_02: You see, everybody is looking out for themselves.
1:08:20
SPEAKER_02: Yes, so if I'm taking something from you, I'm supposed to give something back, yes, and I'm also taking it from you to give to my family.
1:08:28
SPEAKER_02: Yes, I'm looking out for me and my family.
1:08:31
SPEAKER_02: I'm not doing anything wrong in my world, but why aren't you doing the same for yourself?
1:08:37
SPEAKER_02: So if the Western world has hyped themselves up, they've pushed themselves up with their stories and made themselves superior, why aren't we doing the same thing?
1:08:47
SPEAKER_02: No harm by what they've done.
1:08:49
SPEAKER_02: I I don't begrudge America for selling the American dream.
1:08:54
SPEAKER_02: I don't begrudge UK and and England for saying that they are the greatest nation ever.
1:09:02
SPEAKER_02: So no one will begrudge us sometimes when we talk about African great.
1:09:06
SPEAKER_00: I understand why Africa too sometimes is difficult.
1:09:08
SPEAKER_00: You see, Africa is the continent with the most tribes.
1:09:12
SPEAKER_00: There are lots of different people over here, unlike the other continents.
1:09:15
SPEAKER_00: When you go to Asia, you barely find different, different, different cultures or different tribes.
1:09:20
SPEAKER_00: But in Africa alone, you get Ausa people, you get so I think that's the most that that is what makes it difficult.
1:09:27
SPEAKER_02: But if we were able to be united with one version, even though we are different tribes, do you get me?
1:09:34
SPEAKER_00: It's going to be difficult, but you see, when you go to America, they speak uh English, yeah, and it's very easy.
1:09:41
SPEAKER_02: But it took thousands of years for that to happen.
1:09:45
SPEAKER_02: Yes, and I think one limitation we also have is we are not able to think generationally.
1:09:51
SPEAKER_02: No.
1:09:52
SPEAKER_02: So let's say how we are trying to tell African stories right now, it may not affect our generation.
1:09:58
SPEAKER_02: No, but maybe the contents that we put out there can make that two-year-old right now who starts watching our contents from when they are six, grow up to become a proud African.
1:10:10
SPEAKER_02: And they will also pass it on, and pass it on.
1:10:12
SPEAKER_02: For instance, one thing I'm sad about is the fact that the only language I can speak fluently is English.
1:10:20
SPEAKER_00: You can't speak three.
1:10:21
SPEAKER_02: I can speak three, but my English is better than my tree.
1:10:27
SPEAKER_02: I say that because I feel we should start unifying ourselves based on our Africanness.
1:10:34
SPEAKER_00: Yes, true.
1:10:36
SPEAKER_00: You know, I I said something about um why the Chinese people are very good at math and people they understand, is because from scratch, from scratch, they learn with their language.
1:10:47
SPEAKER_00: One plus one, uncle can one plus one, or can one case.
1:10:50
SPEAKER_00: So it's very easy for them to understand.
1:10:52
SPEAKER_00: That's why they are very good at math.
1:10:54
SPEAKER_00: And I said I propose that why say Ghana, we know, go find one language, and it became a huge conversation.
1:11:01
SPEAKER_00: If you if you decide to use one language, which one will it be?
1:11:04
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's but recently the minister said right now local languages are allowed in schools to for the teachers to use as instruction.
1:11:13
SPEAKER_02: And I think that's a good step.
1:11:14
SPEAKER_02: At least it will start to build things closer.
1:11:17
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
1:11:18
SPEAKER_00: Sometimes we feel like it's impossible, but we what we don't know is it will take time, yes, but it's never impossible, and time is our best friend, you know.
1:11:27
SPEAKER_02: It may happen in 50 years, maybe 100 years.
1:11:30
SPEAKER_02: Maybe we won't get to see the results of the efforts we put in, but would have helped the future generation.
1:11:36
SPEAKER_00: Future generation.
1:11:37
SPEAKER_00: But our people there, they don't see that.
1:11:38
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's why next of King's 70.
1:11:43
SPEAKER_02: I once met a guy, very rich man with plenty buildings, owned a lot, and he's in his late 60s, and he said he's about to sell all his buildings and chop life.
1:11:55
SPEAKER_02: You don't want to give nest of he's taking his son to school, he's paid for him through to university.
1:12:00
SPEAKER_02: So you know, he should figure out himself.
1:12:02
SPEAKER_02: He's coming to chop his money before he dies.
1:12:04
SPEAKER_00: He dies.
1:12:05
SPEAKER_00: Oh wow, that's that's sadly that's how people think.
1:12:09
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, when they are doing something when someone is given power and they are supposed to build a road, yeah.
1:12:14
SPEAKER_00: They think they don't think that next some years to come, we'll use it.
1:12:20
SPEAKER_00: So most of the time, Africans car want a problem, it'd be the people.
1:12:23
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, most most of our problems is the mindset.
1:12:26
SPEAKER_00: If the mindset, it is the people.
1:12:28
SPEAKER_00: And they've created they've the sad part is they've made it look like it is okay.
1:12:33
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they've made it look like into raising the topic.
1:12:36
SPEAKER_00: I mean, what I'm glad about is right now we are able to speak about certain things that back then you were not able to speak about.
1:12:42
SPEAKER_00: So I feel like at some point we'll get there.
1:12:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because one step at a time.
1:12:46
SPEAKER_00: Yes, at some point you couldn't raise a topic, you couldn't mean like this, the content I'm doing, I'm talking about Kwame Kuma.
1:12:51
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, if it was in the 1970s, you'll be silent.
1:12:53
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but yeah, but now we are allowed to talk about.
1:12:56
SPEAKER_00: So I believe that at some point it will be allowed, and Ghana will get there.
1:13:00
SPEAKER_00: Yes, Ghana they're used to my everybody that I say that's Ghana, a bit more my billions.
1:13:05
SPEAKER_00: No, be afraid of gold coast, and since we're saying your gold coast, me and Ghana never see gold before.
1:13:12
SPEAKER_00: Me too.
1:13:12
SPEAKER_00: The only gold that seems with the chain.
1:13:14
SPEAKER_02: I've seen gold once, once but real, it wasn't even yours.
1:13:18
SPEAKER_00: It wasn't mine, gold coast, but we never see gold before.
1:13:21
SPEAKER_02: So Africa they really just think about something amazing.
1:13:24
SPEAKER_02: Ghana has gold and oil.
1:13:27
SPEAKER_02: Yes, like Ghana has gold and oil, yet we are broke, very, very, very broke.
1:13:34
SPEAKER_00: Hard.
1:13:34
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
1:13:35
SPEAKER_00: When you go to other continents like Nigeria, they have all the resources.
1:13:38
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, there's this story they say Nigeria, they sold them, they bought someone bought Nigeria for a certain amount, some small amount they have forgotten.
1:13:45
SPEAKER_00: But that's now how the story is.
1:13:47
SPEAKER_00: They twisted the story about the Nigeria story.
1:13:50
SPEAKER_00: That's how Ghana today.
1:13:51
SPEAKER_00: Ghana too, they tricked us into signing things that we didn't know.
1:13:54
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and some of our forefathers, I don't blame them because that time they didn't understand certain things, yes, and the languages as well.
1:14:01
SPEAKER_00: Like the first man who met the Portuguese at this one, he didn't understand.
1:14:05
SPEAKER_00: It was just sign language before they realized the Portuguese had taken over the whole place.
1:14:09
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they didn't understand.
1:14:10
SPEAKER_00: So sometimes I understand them.
1:14:12
SPEAKER_00: I don't blame them too much.
1:14:14
SPEAKER_00: When you look at things like our money, they say this is our money, but when you look at it, the basis they are all wearing suits.
1:14:19
SPEAKER_00: Meanwhile, they say they fought for independence.
1:14:21
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm not saying suit is bad.
1:14:23
SPEAKER_00: I'm not saying suit is bad.
1:14:25
SPEAKER_00: But for someone who fought for independence, you are dressed in the clothing of the white man.
1:14:29
SPEAKER_02: You read Animal Farm, right?
1:14:31
SPEAKER_02: No.
1:14:32
SPEAKER_02: Oh, Animal Farm, those okay, my era there.
1:14:34
SPEAKER_02: Every school used to read Animal Farm.
1:14:36
SPEAKER_00: Animal Farm, I saw Mateda.
1:14:38
SPEAKER_02: So Animal Farm is a story where the humans owned the farm, and the humans were always being, you know, wicked to the animals and all.
1:14:47
SPEAKER_02: And then the pigs decided to start a revolution.
1:14:51
SPEAKER_02: So the pigs came together with all the animals and said, let's overthrow the animals, the humans.
1:14:56
SPEAKER_02: So they did this, did that, did that, and then they overthrew the humans.
1:15:00
SPEAKER_02: They had this whole slogan, four legs good, two legs bad.
1:15:04
SPEAKER_02: So they overthrew the humans, sacked the humans from the farms, and then now the pigs started to rule the farm.
1:15:12
SPEAKER_02: And then now the pigs started to dress like the humans.
1:15:15
SPEAKER_02: And then the next thing they saw, the pig started to walk with two feet.
1:15:20
SPEAKER_02: And the pigs are books.
1:15:21
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's something that we used to learn in school in my era.
1:15:25
SPEAKER_02: And and what is basically trying to show is that book at a point they wanted to ban it because it was basically trying to show that we tried to get independence, but after getting the independence, the same things that we complained were being done to us, we did to ourselves.
1:15:45
SPEAKER_00: That's why sometimes they twist the story and they say that before the slavery arrived, we ourselves were engaged in the slavery already.
1:15:51
SPEAKER_00: True.
1:15:52
SPEAKER_00: Yes, it's true.
1:15:52
SPEAKER_00: We're engaged in the slavery.
1:15:53
SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's it's slavery was a global thing.
1:15:56
SPEAKER_02: Thing.
1:15:56
SPEAKER_02: Slavery is not limited to Africa.
1:15:59
SPEAKER_02: Yes, it's a global thing.
1:16:01
SPEAKER_02: But it's that we did them take do we power.
1:16:03
SPEAKER_00: But the difference is even we that we didn't take one abody, the slavery that existed over here, it wasn't like the the British people came here.
1:16:12
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, our slavery was like Odemeka.
1:16:14
SPEAKER_00: You see, the way that time there was no money.
1:16:16
SPEAKER_00: So you work for me.
1:16:17
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
1:16:19
SPEAKER_00: So that will come and work for me.
1:16:20
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:16:21
SPEAKER_00: Sometimes when you go to war, you capture people, you capture them as slaves.
1:16:24
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:16:26
SPEAKER_00: You have to bring something that you come.
1:16:27
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:16:27
SPEAKER_00: That was the slavery we're going through.
1:16:29
SPEAKER_02: I think the worst part of slavery, like black slavery, is not the fact that we were slaves, because slavery, like I said, was a global thing.
1:16:37
SPEAKER_02: It's how we were treated.
1:16:39
SPEAKER_04: Yes.
1:16:39
SPEAKER_02: That was the first time that slaves were treated so badly.
1:16:43
SPEAKER_02: Because slavery, like if you go in the Bible and everything, slavery has always been a thing.
1:16:48
SPEAKER_02: But for this period, we were treated really, really badly.
1:16:52
SPEAKER_00: And that's the funny part is you when you say stories about slavery, your own people come and be like, Taladia C 400 years ago, you people will not leave it there.
1:17:00
SPEAKER_00: You are still.
1:17:01
SPEAKER_00: I'm still talking about the past because you don't know it.
1:17:03
SPEAKER_00: That's why you are here.
1:17:04
SPEAKER_00: You think because uh the uh this this is and that the white people are better than you.
1:17:09
SPEAKER_00: I'm telling you the reason why we are here right now.
1:17:11
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but you have people in the comments telling you that the truth is we are still slaves.
1:17:16
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:17:16
SPEAKER_02: I tell people at the time mental now.
1:17:18
SPEAKER_00: They just went and just gave the it's like you are playing game.
1:17:22
SPEAKER_00: They just went out of the building and gave the controllers to someone.
1:17:24
SPEAKER_00: That's all, yes, because right now, the educational system, you know, we we with the decided, uh, the language we speak right now, it's not our language.
1:17:31
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the money we spend, we don't decide.
1:17:34
SPEAKER_00: We don't even we don't even print it, yeah.
1:17:36
SPEAKER_02: We don't control anything, but we think we are in control, we're given the illusion of control.
1:17:42
SPEAKER_00: So that's what that's the step that Opanar was taking.
1:17:45
SPEAKER_00: Opener, when I say OpenA, I'm talking about Kwame Kuma.
1:17:48
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, even though he collected they gave him the independence, he knew that you are not in total control, yeah.
1:17:52
SPEAKER_00: So he was trying to gain control by we ourselves doing everything for ourselves, yeah.
1:17:57
SPEAKER_00: And that's when the the white people they saw that Charlie and also threatening nuclear power smaller.
1:18:02
SPEAKER_00: And yes, that's when they saw that Charlie, this guy he'd be very stubborn.
1:18:07
SPEAKER_00: And you find you find out leaders, a lot of leaders in Africa, that what they do to them.
1:18:12
SPEAKER_00: You take someone like Chari like this, you realize this man they boken up as who they do in 10.
1:18:17
SPEAKER_00: Whatever he's doing has nothing to do with yeah uh the Western world, but they are always so want to be involved in what the man is doing.
1:18:25
SPEAKER_02: Because you see, they they do strategic thinking.
1:18:28
SPEAKER_02: So when something starts, they project 10, 20, 30 years from now and see this guy will be a problem in the future.
1:18:36
SPEAKER_02: So let's stop it now.
1:18:37
SPEAKER_02: Well, so I want us, you see, I always say when we say these things, we are not insinuating that the West should stop what they are doing.
1:18:45
SPEAKER_03: No, no, no, no.
1:18:46
SPEAKER_02: That's that's good for them.
1:18:48
SPEAKER_02: We should also start being strategic.
1:18:50
SPEAKER_02: When we see our person who is also thinking ahead, who is also implementing things that will benefit us in 10, 20, 30 years from now, let's support that person.
1:18:59
SPEAKER_02: Instead of saying, oh, it's true, it's true, it's true.
1:19:01
SPEAKER_02: Way crowd are some be our people there.
1:19:04
SPEAKER_00: You see one thing, our Ghanaians, the difference between I always say this the the only difference between Ghana and Nigeria, Nigerian man be bold.
1:19:11
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Nigerian will tell you their mind.
1:19:13
SPEAKER_00: Ghana with them in Pem Wa Simon, yeah, then you gian sah a be ye the be the be a be ye spirit.
1:19:21
SPEAKER_00: But we will change that.
1:19:22
SPEAKER_00: Yes, we will change that.
1:19:23
SPEAKER_00: I believe that we change that.
1:19:24
SPEAKER_02: So you do something that I have every guest do, right?
1:19:27
SPEAKER_02: I want you to look in that camera and imagine that the person watching has opened their mind to you.
1:19:32
SPEAKER_02: And they are listening.
1:19:33
SPEAKER_02: And they are listening.
1:19:34
SPEAKER_02: If you can drop one mindset shift that can take them closer to success, what would it be?
1:19:40
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so I'll say this this life, there's nothing like manual.
1:19:46
SPEAKER_00: We are all trying our best.
1:19:49
SPEAKER_00: So don't let your best look like someone's best.
1:19:52
SPEAKER_00: And there's one thing that I say that there's no, not like I say, it's out there.
1:19:56
SPEAKER_00: There's no evidence for I tried hard.
1:19:59
SPEAKER_00: No, there's only evidence for I made it.
1:20:02
SPEAKER_00: So if you're a content creator out there, whatever you are doing, remember that whatever you are doing takes consistency.
1:20:08
SPEAKER_00: What we are doing right now, what or what you are doing right now, it's like laying booby traps.
1:20:14
SPEAKER_00: You are laying the trap, you are just waiting for one to prick, then it will trigger everything.
1:20:19
SPEAKER_00: And the same thing is like a thread.
1:20:21
SPEAKER_00: It has to be continuous for you to make the whole clothing.
1:20:24
SPEAKER_00: So the moment you stop, it's like you are missing a spot.
1:20:27
SPEAKER_00: Now the dress will be complete, and then there will be a spot that is open.
1:20:31
SPEAKER_00: So the only key right now is to be consistent.
1:20:34
SPEAKER_00: Follow the thread, be consistent.
1:20:36
SPEAKER_00: By the time you realize and you have been discovered, people will go back and look at your old content.
1:20:40
SPEAKER_00: That's when they'll know that you're a solid guy.
1:20:42
SPEAKER_00: The only difference between some people who blew and they are still here, and the people that blew and they are gone is that when they blew up, people want to look back at what they were doing and they realize it's just one hit one day.
1:20:54
SPEAKER_00: But people who have worked back then, they go look and they realize that Charlie, these people they actually work.
1:20:59
SPEAKER_00: So the only thing I'll say is stay consistent.
1:21:02
SPEAKER_00: We all, there's nothing like I figured it out.
1:21:05
SPEAKER_00: No, especially in Ghana, it'd be Isha Lao and Takashi with a take do one, but there's actually results for working hard.
1:21:13
SPEAKER_00: So if you're out there, you are watching me, put in work and you make it.
1:21:16
SPEAKER_00: Hopefully, you'll meet one day.
1:21:17
SPEAKER_00: You never know, Charlie.
1:21:19
SPEAKER_00: Please.
1:21:20
SPEAKER_02: I am so glad that I was so right about you to invite you here to talk.
1:21:26
SPEAKER_02: And I'm really proud of what you are doing.
1:21:27
SPEAKER_02: I like your journey.
1:21:28
SPEAKER_02: I want to see you become even bigger.
1:21:31
SPEAKER_02: Any way I can help, I will.
1:21:33
SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
1:21:33
SPEAKER_02: And when I finish doing my African content for a while, I'll bring you back to come and review.
1:21:38
SPEAKER_02: I'll be honest to be here.
1:21:39
SPEAKER_00: And I'm actually excited to be here, Charlie.
1:21:41
SPEAKER_00: Rich, we are you know the hate, man.
1:21:44
SPEAKER_00: Charlie, we are here.
1:21:45
SPEAKER_00: Charlie, thank you, thank you.
1:21:46
SPEAKER_02: And I really hope you enjoyed this conversation and you are one step closer to being the mastermind that you deserve to be.