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Chuck in the Morning 7-20 Hour 3: The Puppet Theory, 5 days til camp & so long Green Jacket... · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Hey, happy Monday to you. We roll into our third
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Speaker 1: hour here on this some Monday eight o'clock Chuck Powell,
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Speaker 1: Ashley Ryan with you here on Sports Radio ninety three
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Speaker 1: point three. Kate JRFM. Hope you had a wonderful weekend.
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Speaker 1: Weather certainly cooperated over the weekend. I guess it's going
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Speaker 1: to get warm here in the next three days, right,
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Speaker 1: is that what we're hearing?
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Speaker 2: Yeah. They keeps saying like we've got a heap advisory
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Speaker 2: and now it's gonna be over ninety. But every time
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Speaker 2: I look at my weather app it's like in the
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Speaker 2: mid eighties, So I never understand this.
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Speaker 1: Say, hey, let me tell you something right now, with
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Speaker 1: somebody that just loves fall and a good spring, if
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Speaker 1: we top out at three days in the mid eighties,
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Speaker 1: that's a hot as it gets color that of victory
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Speaker 1: for me.
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Speaker 2: Sign me up for that, Chuck.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would love nothing more than to just this.
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Speaker 1: We peek out here's the peak of the mountain. We
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Speaker 1: go up in the mid eighties for three whole days,
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Speaker 1: and then we just gently slide down the mountain, joy it,
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Speaker 1: and then lock into an early fall and then just
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Speaker 1: ride fall for the rest of our lives. Yeah, like
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Speaker 1: every day for the rest of our lives.
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Speaker 2: Fall. Oh, although you know I would get sick of
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Speaker 2: it eventually, you did sick a fall? Yeah, because that's
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Speaker 2: what I love about it is that, I mean, there
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Speaker 2: are I do love because you get different aspects. You
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Speaker 2: get the storms, you get the seventy degree, different kind
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Speaker 2: of light, sunny day. But I also like it to
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Speaker 2: get a little cold and be bundled up in the winter.
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Speaker 1: Like everybody talking about San Diego, like the perpetual temperature. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: if you just like, you know, seventy perpetual like humidity
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Speaker 1: and haze. They're not humidity, but they have this and
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Speaker 1: then the sun. Yeah, oh it's humid in the mornings.
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Speaker 1: It's gross, and then it burns off. That's what they
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Speaker 1: talk about. They talk about how it burns off and
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Speaker 1: then gets nice. So that's like perpetual summer. Give me
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Speaker 1: a perpetual fall.
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Speaker 2: If I had to pick, if I had to pick
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Speaker 2: a season to live in all the time, obviously it
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Speaker 2: would be fall. Obviously. Yeah. Well that's why I like
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Speaker 2: living here is because I get four seasons. Yeah, like
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Speaker 2: them all, I get it.
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Speaker 1: I get it. Maybe maybe it'd be like eating too
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Speaker 1: much ice cream. Maybe we'd even get sick of fall.
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Speaker 2: But I already have had my first Is it almost fall?
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Speaker 1: You have thought, oh did you? Yeah?
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Speaker 2: Weeks ago?
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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah. I'm trying not to think about it because
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Speaker 1: the top of every hour. All right, let's talk about
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Speaker 1: the Mariners man on what an incredible, credibly strange I
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Speaker 1: should say weekend for them, And this certainly when you
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Speaker 1: have a few days off and you've got a chance
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Speaker 1: to reflect on a baseball season and you don't have
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Speaker 1: any games to kind of refresh your opinion. I came
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Speaker 1: on the airwaves Monday start a little bit of a
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Speaker 1: conversation about whether or not Dan Wilson should remain manager.
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Speaker 1: I didn't expect him to be let go. I realize
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Speaker 1: I'm fairly powerless here in this sports community, but my
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Speaker 1: statement on Monday was I would let him go. I
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Speaker 1: would fire him. I think this team could benefit from
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Speaker 1: a different manager. So I said that on Monday, and
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Speaker 1: certainly I'm not the only one that's been saying this
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Speaker 1: here in the Seattle community, and certainly a lot of
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Speaker 1: you have been thinking it at home. Otherwise, doesn't pump
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Speaker 1: out a poll last week? Should Dan be fired? And
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Speaker 1: eighty one percent of pollsters said yes. So eighty one
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Speaker 1: percent of people agreed with my take on Monday that
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Speaker 1: answered Softy's poll, that is, and then nineteen not only disagreed,
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Speaker 1: but kind of vehemently disagreed. And so I want to
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Speaker 1: I want to get into that in this conversation. Even
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Speaker 1: though we're coming off of two out of three and
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Speaker 1: it feels like we have averted disaster on Saturday and
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Speaker 1: then into Sunday. Still I want to address something because
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Speaker 1: I ended up going on one of our shows on
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Speaker 1: Friday and I was I felt I was put in
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Speaker 1: a little bit of an uncomfortable position. I made my statement,
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Speaker 1: I've given my reasons. I talked about it all week,
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Speaker 1: I did the interview. I made my statement again. You know,
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Speaker 1: I supported it with the evidence that I think is
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Speaker 1: the preponderance of evidence that supports my belief the day
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Speaker 1: Wilson should should be letting go. But it ended up
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Speaker 1: being the entire interview that I did on Friday, and
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Speaker 1: I ended up feeling a I don't want to come
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Speaker 1: off as bashing Dan. I don't. I mean, have already
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Speaker 1: made my statement, I've already given my reasons. I don't
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Speaker 1: love doing this, and yet when you continuously ask me
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Speaker 1: for reasons and to defend my position. Now, by the
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Speaker 1: end of Friday night, I felt like I was dancing
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Speaker 1: on Dan's grave, which is not where I ever wanted
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Speaker 1: to be with it. I have an opinion. I feel
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Speaker 1: like I've supported it. It's out there, and despite winning
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Speaker 1: two out of three, I still feel that way. I
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Speaker 1: think we're just better off with a different manager. I
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Speaker 1: don't think Dan is without merits as a manager, and
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Speaker 1: I know he's a good guy, and I know he
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Speaker 1: has a tremendous place in Mariner history, and I certainly
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Speaker 1: this is very important. Don't think it's all his fault,
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Speaker 1: because by the end of the week, I'm like, man,
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Speaker 1: do I even have to say this? Because now I've
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Speaker 1: talked about it so much, I almost feel like I
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Speaker 1: have to say this. I'm not saying that everything that's
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Speaker 1: happened to this season is the manager's fault. I mean,
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Speaker 1: the players shoulder a lot of the responsibility and and
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Speaker 1: I think some of the coaches have to shoulder some responsibility,
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Speaker 1: and certainly the front office. I mean, they haven't clicked
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Speaker 1: on all cylinders so far this year. They've got to
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Speaker 1: share in some of the responsibility. So even though I'm
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Speaker 1: making him the fall guy, it's because you really can't
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Speaker 1: fire your entire roster, right, nor do I want to, no, yeah,
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Speaker 1: or even your coaching staff. I think Kevin Seitzer did
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Speaker 1: wonderful things, and he has done wonderful things in his career.
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Speaker 1: And yes, the offense has not performed in the last
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Speaker 1: three months, but I still think Kevin Seitzer can get
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Speaker 1: them out of it. And Perry Hill as a even
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Speaker 1: though we had defensive struggles. There's not one guy that
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Speaker 1: comes that plays infield that comes to Seattle and doesn't
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Speaker 1: say they can't wait to work with Perry Hill. His
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Speaker 1: reputation's pretty much about his sound. As you can get
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Speaker 1: where where's Dan Wilson's proving ground. I mean, he's not
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Speaker 1: taken anyone to the mountain. He hasn't had a lot
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Speaker 1: of time to do that. But what I've seen out
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Speaker 1: of him I've been critical of. I mean, I gave
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Speaker 1: him we made it to the ALCS, and I gave
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Speaker 1: him a C minus last year. So this isn't somebody
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Speaker 1: that I thought was ever doing a fantastic job. I
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Speaker 1: thought his ex'es and O's left something to be desired,
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Speaker 1: and so far this year I don't see improvement on
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Speaker 1: that front. And then the other thing that we judge
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Speaker 1: managers by today is are you getting the most out
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Speaker 1: of your talent? And I just don't think that he is.
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Speaker 1: I believe in the roster, and the roster right now
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Speaker 1: has pretty a five hundred record one hundred games into
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Speaker 1: the season. So does Vegas. By the way, we're still
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Speaker 1: a top four favorite to win the World Series in Vegas.
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Speaker 1: Vegas believes in the roster. Betters believe in the roster.
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Speaker 1: That have nothing to do with Seattle. Every analyst that
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Speaker 1: seems national analyst in the business believes in the roster.
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Speaker 1: I mean, there's a reason why the Mariners keep making
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Speaker 1: these mid season All Star Break most Disappointing Teams of
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Speaker 1: the first Half list because national analysts believe that team
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Speaker 1: is way too good to be sitting here a game
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Speaker 1: under five hundred at the All Star Barks. So I
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Speaker 1: believe in the roster. I think the roster is good.
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Speaker 1: The roster should be producing better results, but the results
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Speaker 1: have not been there. So if I believe in the roster,
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Speaker 1: I'm not obviously going to lay as much on the
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Speaker 1: feet of the front office as I am on the
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Speaker 1: manager and the coach staff for not getting as much
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Speaker 1: out of this team as they should. I think they
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Speaker 1: have grossly underachieved this year. I thought they grossly underachieved
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Speaker 1: for most of last season, but then did get it
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Speaker 1: together in the second half. But there are so many
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Speaker 1: people who are so results oriented, and I get it.
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Speaker 1: That's sports. Of course we're results oriented. It's either a
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Speaker 1: win or a loss. But there was a lot of
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Speaker 1: times in sports where a good decision can backfire on you,
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Speaker 1: even for a manager like this guy. We play percentages
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Speaker 1: in baseball more so well in all sports when we
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Speaker 1: make our decisions like Okay, we're gonna shift to the
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Speaker 1: right because this guy hits the ball to the right
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Speaker 1: most of the time. Well, if he hits the ball
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Speaker 1: to the left, was it a bad decision to shift
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Speaker 1: to the right. No, that's sports, sometimes it can go
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Speaker 1: the other way. Same thing with like Rob Refsneider in
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Speaker 1: his contract. All you can do is deal with the
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Speaker 1: information that is in front of you. The most recent,
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Speaker 1: up to date information on Rob Refschneider is he can
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Speaker 1: hit left handed pitching at a very high rate and
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Speaker 1: has been doing so for a number of years. So
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Speaker 1: we're gonna give him a contract because we could really
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Speaker 1: use that on our roster. I don't think that the
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Speaker 1: idea of signing Rob Refschneider was a bad idea. The
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Speaker 1: results have been terrible, but I'm gonna blame Rob Refschneider
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Speaker 1: for that more than I'm gonna blame the front office
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Speaker 1: decision to sign Rob Rethschneider. Many of you were excited
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Speaker 1: a lot more excited than I was about Rob Refschneider here,
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Speaker 1: And I'd also put more at the coaching staff's feet
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Speaker 1: than I would the front office because the evidence suggests
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Speaker 1: that Rob Refschneider should be hitting right now, should be
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Speaker 1: hitting left handers, and yet he's not. And that's just it.
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Speaker 1: That's what we're playing here, that's baseball. We will play
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Speaker 1: an individual pitch. What's the best percentage chain chance to
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Speaker 1: have success on this pitch. What is the best percentage
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Speaker 1: chance to keep this hitter from getting a hit on
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Speaker 1: this pitch? How should we position the defense? What guy
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Speaker 1: should we use in this situation when they've made a
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Speaker 1: pitching change. Who is it the guy that we already
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Speaker 1: have in the lineup or is it a guy off
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Speaker 1: the bench that gives us the best percentage chance of
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Speaker 1: succeeding in this moment? And then you even have to
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Speaker 1: weigh in. But we're only in the third inning, So
11:31
Speaker 1: what's our best percentage chance to get the most quality
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Speaker 1: at bats from this position in the lineup for the
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Speaker 1: That's the entire sport. I mean, it's tiring when you
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Speaker 1: think about. And that's all I'm saying about Dan Wilson.
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Speaker 1: I think we can win the World Series with Dan
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Speaker 1: Wilson as manager. We got very close to going to
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Speaker 1: the World Series with Dan Wilson as managery or ago.
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Speaker 1: I think we can get there. I think there's a
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Speaker 1: percentage chance that we get to the World Series and
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Speaker 1: that Dan Wilson is there when we win at all.
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Speaker 1: My statement on Monday was about I think there's a
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Speaker 1: person out there right now available that we could add
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Speaker 1: that gives us a better chance. That gives us a
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Speaker 1: better decision maker at the managerial position. And to me,
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Speaker 1: if this game's about playing percentages, why wouldn't we play.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's hard to acquire talent, right, you got
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Speaker 1: to give something up to get it. I mean, there
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Speaker 1: are managerial candidates out there you don't have to give
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Speaker 1: anything up to except money at this stage that I
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Speaker 1: think give you a higher percentage chance of winning than
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Speaker 1: what Dan Wilson does.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and I don't think that anybody, if
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Speaker 2: you're looking at it objectively, as I said, can come
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Speaker 2: up with an argument on the opposite side. I just
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Speaker 2: if you look at what he's done this year and
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Speaker 2: you look at the questionable things that I mean, even
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Speaker 2: non baseball experts can watch and say I would have
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Speaker 2: done that differently, or I would have done I mean,
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Speaker 2: I feel like if I'm watching a game and I'm
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Speaker 2: questioning things, then that says something. Because I've never been
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Speaker 2: a baseball player. I've never been a softball player. I
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Speaker 2: am a baseball fan, and i feel like I've learned
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Speaker 2: a lot being on the show with you and Bucky.
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Speaker 2: But if I'm to the point where I'm questioning things,
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Speaker 2: then there's definitely valid questions.
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Speaker 1: Well, I think, and I'll skip to this part and
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Speaker 1: then i'll put the puppet thing at the end. But
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Speaker 1: since you brought that up the nineteen percent that have
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Speaker 1: defended Dan, and a lot of them vehemently, I would
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Speaker 1: ask you, what can he be held responsible for? Then? Right? No,
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Speaker 1: because that seems to be the excuse given is that
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Speaker 1: the team doesn't play well or hard or focused. We
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Speaker 1: blame the players. So he doesn't bear any responsibility for that.
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Speaker 2: I mean I think he does.
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Speaker 1: I do do, yeah, that his job is to get
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Speaker 1: the most out of his players. If they are consistently
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Speaker 1: playing with a lack of focus and at some times
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Speaker 1: a lack of effort, somebody's got to fire the right
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Speaker 1: message to the team to get them going. So look,
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Speaker 1: I put most of that on the players, but again,
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Speaker 1: can't fire all the players. So where is the manager
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Speaker 1: in the one hundred games of lack of focus? You
14:27
Speaker 1: know on the base paths and defense? And then the
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Speaker 1: other thing is the bad x'es and o's which I've
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Speaker 1: pointed out. I've pointed out three things because really managers
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Speaker 1: can only be they're really only responsible for two x's
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Speaker 1: and o's things. Anymore, and that's pitching changes and bench usage.
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Speaker 1: Well if but the Dan Wilson defenders say that's all
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Speaker 1: Justin and Jerry, that Dan's just a puppet, So okay,
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Speaker 1: So we're leaving him of any responsibility in terms of
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Speaker 1: keeping the players sharp. That's on them. And we're also
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Speaker 1: eliminating him from any responsibility to make any endgame decisions
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Speaker 1: because he's just a puppet for the front office and
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Speaker 1: they're making all the decisions. Well, if that's the case,
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Speaker 1: he can never get credit. Ever, he can't get credit
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Speaker 1: for anything. What is his job If we're going to
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Speaker 1: just say the bad exes and those decisions are coming
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Speaker 1: from upstairs and the team not playing hard and focused
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Speaker 1: is on the players, Well, what is he responsible for?
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Speaker 1: What else does a manager even bring to the table
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Speaker 1: in modern day jokes? I don't know.
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Speaker 2: Well, And if those are your reasonings, you're still not
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Speaker 2: making an argument for why he should keep his job,
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Speaker 2: because that means he doesn't have anything to do with
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Speaker 2: anything exactly. So it's still not an argument that he
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Speaker 2: should stay.
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Speaker 1: And so that's why I really wanted to spend at
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Speaker 1: least five minutes today shooting down the puppet theory. Because
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Speaker 1: this has just been talked about way too much. I
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Speaker 1: would say Number one, every front office has usage rules
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Speaker 1: to protect short and long term health of players, every
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Speaker 1: single one of them. This is the modern day. This
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Speaker 1: isn't twenty five years ago when the manager's making all
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Speaker 1: the decisions. There is. Every team, every organization has a
16:16
Speaker 1: team of nerds that are breaking down data and trying
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Speaker 1: to figure out what's the best way to get all
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Speaker 1: of our players from point A to point B without
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Speaker 1: any time missed. Okay, so they all subscribe to this now.
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Speaker 1: I do believe that we are more careful than other teams.
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Speaker 1: Like Andre's still has not pitched more than an inning
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Speaker 1: in a game so far this year. Sometimes your closer,
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Speaker 1: I mean I watched David. I've watched like six Yankee
16:44
Speaker 1: games this year, and David Bednar's worked like two innings
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Speaker 1: as their closer every single time I've watched, so obviously
16:51
Speaker 1: they're not as cautious. Then again, the Mariners are pretty
16:54
Speaker 1: great at keeping their pitching healthy. Compare them to the Dodgers,
17:01
Speaker 1: and I do agree they take it too far. And
17:05
Speaker 1: I think that those rules are going to loosen up
17:07
Speaker 1: here now that we're in the second half. Now that
17:10
Speaker 1: we're in the second half, I think those rules are
17:11
Speaker 1: going to loosen up. But I'm gonna tell you this
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Speaker 1: right now. This falls squarely on Dan's shoulders. The one
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Speaker 1: pitch outings. Like, if you have a rule that Gabe
17:22
Speaker 1: Spier can't pitch, sit down and pitch again, if that's
17:25
Speaker 1: one of the rules handed down by the front office,
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Speaker 1: then why are we wasting Gabe Spire on one batter
17:32
Speaker 1: If you're short on relief pitching one pitch, one pitch,
17:38
Speaker 1: we sit him and he can't get back up. I
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Speaker 1: mean this happened Friday. We were in that game on Friday,
17:45
Speaker 1: first game out of the box, everybody's completely rested, and
17:50
Speaker 1: we take Bryce Miller out of the game at ninety
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Speaker 1: one pitches with the Giants number nine hitter, some dude
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Speaker 1: named Drew Kavanaugh. It would discuss how many to know?
18:01
Speaker 1: How many players I know in Major League Baseball if
18:04
Speaker 1: you're listening right now, and I don't know Drew Cavanaugh.
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Speaker 1: But we were so scared of Bryce Miller at ninety
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Speaker 1: one pitches pitching to Drew Kavanaugh with our entire bullpen rested,
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Speaker 1: we brought in Farrer to pitch to one batter, not
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Speaker 1: knowing if he was going We at least knew Bryce
18:22
Speaker 1: was throwing strikes, and we brought Ferrer in. At best
18:27
Speaker 1: case scenario he was going to throw to one, So
18:30
Speaker 1: we were going to start the second half with that
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Speaker 1: garbage and nonsense again, and what happened. He ended up
18:39
Speaker 1: not getting him out, and then the floodgates opened and
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Speaker 1: we lost going away. So nothing was learned during the
18:48
Speaker 1: All Star break of if we're going to have this
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Speaker 1: strict of rules, we can't waste Jose Ferrer, any of
18:55
Speaker 1: our four reliable guys on one batter or the if
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Speaker 1: these are the rules that we're going to adopt, So
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Speaker 1: I you know, I know, And I said this a
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Speaker 1: year ago. When the season went on and Dan was
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Speaker 1: just pitching or managing to win games and he didn't
19:16
Speaker 1: have as many rules to follow, he got better. He
19:21
Speaker 1: got better at that. That's he seems to be freaked
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Speaker 1: out by how many rules he has to follow, and
19:28
Speaker 1: I think that he ends up making bad decisions. The
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Speaker 1: fewer rules you give him, the better off he seems
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Speaker 1: to be.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, when like in the playoffs, when he or towards
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Speaker 2: the playoffs, when he had no rules, he was like
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Speaker 2: footloose and fancy free for the playoffs.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and when we were just yeah, when we were
19:44
Speaker 1: just like you know, hey we got to get four
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Speaker 1: outs muon Jos, Yep, yeah, your job. But every manager
19:51
Speaker 1: does better in that sense. But I mean, this just
19:57
Speaker 1: it's not like Jeppetto. I mean, if we're gonna make
19:59
Speaker 1: this up puppet, it's not like Geppetto is sitting there
20:03
Speaker 1: making Pinocchio. And then all of a sudden we get
20:06
Speaker 1: near the playoffs and the the Magic Boy comes to life,
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Speaker 1: and now he can make all these great decisions now
20:14
Speaker 1: that he's not restricted by everyone in the organization. Like
20:19
Speaker 1: I said before, if Dan Wilson can't suffer any blame
20:24
Speaker 1: for the way the team's played so far this year,
20:26
Speaker 1: then he can never get the credit. He's not going
20:30
Speaker 1: to turn into Pinocchio the Magic Boy just because we're
20:33
Speaker 1: in the second half of the season. And then the
20:36
Speaker 1: last thing that I would say about it is who
20:40
Speaker 1: agrees to a job to be a puppet? Would I
20:46
Speaker 1: honestly put that on Dan's shoulders too? If in fact
20:49
Speaker 1: he's just a puppet for Jerry and justin shame on Dan,
20:54
Speaker 1: Shame on Dan, Shame on any man. I mean, I
20:57
Speaker 1: have some rules that I have to follow that I
20:59
Speaker 1: don't like. That are KJR rules or iHeart rules. There
21:03
Speaker 1: are some things that I'm not allowed to say on
21:05
Speaker 1: our radio station. We've just experienced that here in the
21:08
Speaker 1: last month. But if I had to go into an
21:12
Speaker 1: office and be told this is what you're going to say,
21:14
Speaker 1: these are the topics you're going to discuss, there's no
21:17
Speaker 1: way I would be doing this job. Not once does
21:21
Speaker 1: KJR management KJR ownership ever interfere with the content that
21:26
Speaker 1: I bring to the table on a daily basis. I've
21:28
Speaker 1: got some rules. There are some things I can't say
21:31
Speaker 1: about what's going on at the station times and things
21:33
Speaker 1: like that. Okay, all right, I'll follow those rules. But
21:37
Speaker 1: if I was also told this is what you're going
21:40
Speaker 1: to say on the air, there's no way I'm doing
21:44
Speaker 1: this right, So I don't. I mean, let's just humor
21:49
Speaker 1: you and say, Dan Wilson's a complete puppet for Jerry Depoto.
21:55
Speaker 1: Why why would you be that? Yeah? Why would you
22:00
Speaker 1: not stand up for yourself?
22:01
Speaker 2: You're going to get all the criticism.
22:03
Speaker 1: Why do you want this job if you don't get
22:05
Speaker 1: to make any decisions? I know that there are front
22:09
Speaker 1: office decisions that are enforced on the coaching staff and
22:14
Speaker 1: on Dan. I know that, I know he has rules
22:17
Speaker 1: that he has to He has to color within the
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Speaker 1: lines game in and game out.
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Speaker 2: Right.
22:23
Speaker 1: Every organization does this, now, the nerderama front, the president,
22:30
Speaker 1: maybe not the president in every organization, but ours does.
22:33
Speaker 1: The general manager, the manager, some coaches, maybe even a
22:37
Speaker 1: couple of players, the pitcher and catcher certainly, and they
22:40
Speaker 1: go over all the data and they know the marching
22:44
Speaker 1: orders heading into the game. Everybody does that. I think
22:48
Speaker 1: you should be able to excel even with those restrictions
22:52
Speaker 1: placed on you, and I don't see that, And so
22:59
Speaker 1: to me, I don't know. It feels like most people
23:04
Speaker 1: are in agreement with me. But I just got to
23:07
Speaker 1: the end of the week where it felt like I
23:09
Speaker 1: was having to pile on and I wanted to spend
23:13
Speaker 1: some time just sort of describing a few things from
23:18
Speaker 1: my perspective that I was trying to get across. If
23:20
Speaker 1: I wasn't able to. Yeah, but also I just wanted
23:24
Speaker 1: to shoot the puppet theory out of the water because
23:27
Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. It is ridiculous. Why on earth would the
23:37
Speaker 1: Mariners put their manager in a position to never make decisions,
23:41
Speaker 1: and some of those decisions I know are outside the
23:45
Speaker 1: rules that have been put in place for Dan Wilson,
23:48
Speaker 1: and they're not good decisions. So that's just from my perspective.
23:53
Speaker 1: I don't want to keep piling on the guy, but
23:55
Speaker 1: I've kind of got painted into that corner Friday, and
23:59
Speaker 1: it can held me to do this segment here this morning.
24:03
Speaker 1: But I you know, it looks like they're sticking with him.
24:06
Speaker 1: I wonder what the conversation would have been this morning
24:09
Speaker 1: if Cole Young didn't hit that three homer on Saturday.
24:13
Speaker 1: Run homer on Saturday. And I think we can win
24:15
Speaker 1: with him, and I hope but we do win with him,
24:17
Speaker 1: and I hope he's there to celebrate. And I'm sure
24:20
Speaker 1: people will remember and say you should, you should be fired,
24:24
Speaker 1: And I still believe it, right, I still think we
24:27
Speaker 1: got a chance to win it all with Dan Wilson.
24:29
Speaker 1: I just think we've got a better chance with somebody else.
24:32
Speaker 2: I think that's fair.
24:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, coming up next on the radio show.
24:36
Speaker 1: We've got five days till training camp. Time to put
24:40
Speaker 1: this offseason in proper perspective before we start the preseason.
24:44
Speaker 1: Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. Man, football is
25:04
Speaker 1: a powerful thing, is it not?
25:06
Speaker 2: I mean just hearing the music right, Yeah, you're like, okay,
25:08
Speaker 2: I'm ready, Yep, sign me up, It's ready. We're good.
25:11
Speaker 1: Is crazy? Like Roger Goodell made a call over the
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Speaker 1: week and like, hey, Golf, you may want to wrap
25:17
Speaker 1: this up if you want the I hear you have
25:21
Speaker 1: these like major tournaments. Those are bigger than other tournaments.
25:26
Speaker 1: Am I following you correctly here at golf? Yes, yes,
25:29
Speaker 1: mister Goodell. Yeah, you may want to wrap these up.
25:32
Speaker 1: Football seasons again. I hate for you guys to get
25:34
Speaker 1: lost in the weeds here. Yes, yeah, we're gonna have
25:37
Speaker 1: football practice in five days. You better speed it along.
25:42
Speaker 2: You know what, if you could take that major that
25:43
Speaker 2: was in August and move it up to Maya, we'll
25:46
Speaker 2: give you that.
25:47
Speaker 1: Speed it along, Golf, Hey, I got a run. I
25:49
Speaker 1: gotta call soccer real fast if we gotta have a chat,
25:52
Speaker 1: Hey soccer, Roger Goodell here, American football. When's this World
25:58
Speaker 1: Cup thing gonna end? I'm just for your benefit. I
26:01
Speaker 1: want you to get it wrapped up. You need to
26:04
Speaker 1: crescendo this sucker, because we're getting ready to start football practice.
26:08
Speaker 2: Yes, stuff's happening, guys, five days. We already got rookies here.
26:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're gonna need the attention of the entire
26:15
Speaker 1: sports market.
26:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, you and your four eyes over there.
26:21
Speaker 1: So football practice is almost here. This Saturday, the Seahawks
26:24
Speaker 1: will start training camp. Our coverage will begin Monday from
26:27
Speaker 1: the Virginia Ason Athletics Center. I hear Hugh Millen is
26:30
Speaker 1: going to be a rather large part of it. So
26:33
Speaker 1: we're gonna get you set this weekend and this week
26:38
Speaker 1: countdown wise, and yeah, this is the time to kind
26:41
Speaker 1: of put in perspective the off seasons that we've had,
26:44
Speaker 1: coming off a world championship, maybe prematurely won, maybe before
26:49
Speaker 1: any of us thought that the Mike McDonald John Schneider
26:53
Speaker 1: pairing would produce a champion. Well, we've already experienced it,
26:58
Speaker 1: and now we get ready to try to fin that title.
27:01
Speaker 1: Now I get it, I understand. I mean this offseason
27:05
Speaker 1: we did not make the big earth changing, headline grabbing
27:11
Speaker 1: moves that our closest competitor. Let's face it. I mean,
27:16
Speaker 1: we won two out of three and have nothing to
27:18
Speaker 1: apologize for. Two point conversion. Get over it, McVeigh yeah,
27:27
Speaker 1: we had nothing to apologize on that front. But that
27:30
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's our stiffest competition in the division
27:34
Speaker 1: and the conference and in the league right there. And
27:36
Speaker 1: they went out this offseason and added Miles Garrett, Trent McDuffie,
27:42
Speaker 1: Jalen Watson and it looks like Aaron Donald's going to
27:45
Speaker 1: play for them. Yeah, so yeah, that's a lot. They've
27:50
Speaker 1: a really good team, maybe even a great team, has
27:54
Speaker 1: improved themselves on paper exceedingly now.
27:59
Speaker 2: Frustratingly on to me, Seahawks aren't operating that way.
28:03
Speaker 1: They're more about the long term. The Rams have done
28:05
Speaker 1: this before, they've gone all in. They've won, then they
28:08
Speaker 1: did a rebuild, and they did their rebuild so seamlessly
28:10
Speaker 1: and so quickly they didn't even feel like anything. So
28:14
Speaker 1: I got to give them credit for that too. So
28:15
Speaker 1: you've had a great offseason, You've got a great team,
28:18
Speaker 1: and you I think it's a pretty great attribute of
28:22
Speaker 1: yours that you go all in and it doesn't seem
28:25
Speaker 1: to harm you in terms of the future. Maybe it
28:30
Speaker 1: will eventually, maybe this will catch up to them. We
28:32
Speaker 1: shall see. But John taking a little more practical approach,
28:36
Speaker 1: wants to be great for as long a period of
28:38
Speaker 1: time as he can be possibly great. And so we
28:41
Speaker 1: didn't go all in on off season editions this year,
28:45
Speaker 1: and so on paper, I get it. I get why
28:47
Speaker 1: the Rams have passed us. I get why the Rams
28:49
Speaker 1: have become the favorite. But certainly we're not conceding anything
28:54
Speaker 1: here in Seattle. Maybe we didn't have the off season
28:57
Speaker 1: that you had. The thing that the Seawks have going
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Speaker 1: for them with their offseason is the thing that they
29:03
Speaker 1: had before we ever even won the Super Bowl. This
29:07
Speaker 1: team was built to be better in twenty twenty six
29:12
Speaker 1: than it was in twenty twenty five. Then it was
29:14
Speaker 1: for twenty twenty five. So the fact that we're world
29:18
Speaker 1: champs a year early, when the entire plan was to
29:23
Speaker 1: be better in twenty twenty six than we were in
29:26
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, that is what the Seahawks. So everybody
29:31
Speaker 1: that wants to pick the Rams, they've added Miles Jarrett
29:33
Speaker 1: and the Trip mcdeal. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we get that.
29:36
Speaker 1: We acknowledged that. But we are going to be better too,
29:41
Speaker 1: just not in the same way, just as a normal
29:46
Speaker 1: growth and development program that we were anticipating being really
29:52
Speaker 1: good as a football community here in Seattle and then
29:56
Speaker 1: great in twenty twenty six. So if we're already great
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Speaker 1: World championship great, then we're going to be greater, the greatest.
30:06
Speaker 1: But I mean that is that's not going to be
30:09
Speaker 1: discussed on the talking head shows about what did the
30:12
Speaker 1: Seahawks do in the offseason? Who did they lose, who
30:14
Speaker 1: did they gain? All right, there's a story to be
30:17
Speaker 1: told there. Yeah, but if you're sleeping on what the
30:21
Speaker 1: Seahawks were building with Mike McDonald and John Schneider, the
30:25
Speaker 1: moment they came together, the promise they were showing for
30:28
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. Remember, nobody thought they were going to
30:31
Speaker 1: be any good last year except some of us here
30:33
Speaker 1: in Seattle. Eight and a half I think was the
30:36
Speaker 1: over under something like that going into last season. Well,
30:40
Speaker 1: this plan was to be world champions by twenty twenty six,
30:46
Speaker 1: and we've already achieved that. So we are expecting another jump.
30:51
Speaker 1: We are expecting to be better than we were a
30:54
Speaker 1: year ago. And that might not mean that we'll win
30:57
Speaker 1: another World championship, but I think the Seahawks are going
31:01
Speaker 1: to be a better football team than they were last season.
31:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I will say to Claire because I said
31:07
Speaker 2: for the Rams It's a frustrating thing to watch. It's
31:10
Speaker 2: frustrating to me because they just keep thinking, at some
31:12
Speaker 2: point this has got to come back to bite them
31:14
Speaker 2: in the butt. They can't keep making all these moves
31:16
Speaker 2: and doing all these things and being and staying good.
31:20
Speaker 2: And then they keep doing all these things, and they
31:22
Speaker 2: find more ways to make moves and more ways to
31:24
Speaker 2: make moves. And then, as a Seahawks fan, you look
31:25
Speaker 2: at it and we didn't do a lot, but it
31:27
Speaker 2: is that whole aspect of what we already have, and
31:31
Speaker 2: how much better that defense will be under another year
31:34
Speaker 2: of Mike McDonald, and how much better they'll be with
31:36
Speaker 2: another year of playing together and learning. And I can't
31:39
Speaker 2: wait to see what different things, different ways he still
31:42
Speaker 2: figures out how to use nick em Men worry, I
31:44
Speaker 2: mean all that stuff. I'm very secure as a Seahawks
31:47
Speaker 2: fan and what the Seahawks have, but I just wish
31:49
Speaker 2: the rams would go away.
31:51
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, they had some good drafts. I mean they
31:53
Speaker 1: were supposed to. I mean, it's not supposed to work
31:55
Speaker 1: that way, but they had some really good drafts and
31:57
Speaker 1: then they realized, hey, we're still going to be pretty good.
32:01
Speaker 1: And then they went out and got Stafford and then
32:03
Speaker 1: they you know, improved it. Well, they actually got Stafford first,
32:08
Speaker 1: but they were supposed to have to drop off and
32:10
Speaker 1: that had some really good drafts and it didn't really
32:12
Speaker 1: create much of a hiccup. I mean, I think there's
32:14
Speaker 1: some real legitimacy too. They were thinking about moving on
32:18
Speaker 1: from Matthew Stafford that they weren't planning on extending him. Hell,
32:24
Speaker 1: they just took a quarterback in the draft this past year.
32:28
Speaker 1: But I think they even same with the Seahawks, even
32:30
Speaker 1: surprised themselves. We did not have that drop off that
32:34
Speaker 1: we had sort of negotiated with ourselves, like we're going
32:39
Speaker 1: to go for it and we're going to accept that
32:41
Speaker 1: we might have a little bit of a drop off
32:43
Speaker 1: and it could be a little uncomfortable. Well, they ended
32:46
Speaker 1: up not having that drop off, and now they're like, good, Well,
32:51
Speaker 1: it's kind of a similar story to the Seahawks. We
32:54
Speaker 1: were expecting to be better in twenty twenty five and
32:59
Speaker 1: then vy for a championship in twenty twenty six. Wh've
33:03
Speaker 1: already won the championship, so the plan to be even
33:08
Speaker 1: better the following year is not going to change. So
33:11
Speaker 1: even though we didn't have the dramatic pickups. Still there
33:15
Speaker 1: is an expectation in that building that this team's going
33:18
Speaker 1: to be better than the team a year ago, and
33:21
Speaker 1: that kind of evens things out. Big spenders all right.
33:24
Speaker 1: Coming up next on the program, well, we got a
33:28
Speaker 1: little bit of a celebration. Sports Radio ninety three point
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Speaker 1: three KJRFM Carnnjamin Sink at nine Jackson Felds to recap
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Speaker 1: the World Cup. Coming up at ten nine thirty. That's
33:51
Speaker 1: our nine o'clock hour here today. Speaking of the World Cup,
33:56
Speaker 1: we did do a green check at draft. It is
33:59
Speaker 1: time for a green jacket ceremony, and a very special one,
34:03
Speaker 1: and not just because I won. This is the last
34:07
Speaker 1: green jacket. This is the last one, the last green
34:11
Speaker 1: jacket ceremony. Yes, I did win our World Cup green
34:15
Speaker 1: jacket draft that we did with Jackson and Anders.
34:20
Speaker 2: They're supposed to be experts.
34:21
Speaker 1: I know, I know, Yeah, Chuck won the soccer draft,
34:25
Speaker 1: but the fact that Anders and Jackson were both in
34:29
Speaker 1: the draft was the evidence that we needed. Not that
34:32
Speaker 1: we don't love those fellas and they provided some great insight.
34:36
Speaker 1: But obviously we've been doing this thing for five years
34:40
Speaker 1: and it's time to retire. The Green Jacket. So we
34:45
Speaker 1: have two others that are outstanding out there, but they're
34:49
Speaker 1: both baseball and so we're not going to find the
34:54
Speaker 1: results out until October. So I'm gonna go ahead and
34:59
Speaker 1: tybo on this one. I wish Brad Evans was here.
35:01
Speaker 1: He's so good at it.
35:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, he loves cues.
35:05
Speaker 1: So this is the last one. Now, I do want
35:08
Speaker 1: to say that I love drafting. That's not going to
35:11
Speaker 1: go away. We're just going to give out a different
35:14
Speaker 1: prize going forward. We're still going to do the drafts.
35:16
Speaker 1: We're still going to do previews. I really love the segment.
35:19
Speaker 1: But in terms of our run with the Green Jacket,
35:24
Speaker 1: if you didn't hear, Bucky on Friday made it official
35:29
Speaker 1: for medical reasons, I'll just read the statement. He gave
35:33
Speaker 1: him an opportunity to reflect on my priorities and how
35:35
Speaker 1: I want to spend the next chapter of my life.
35:37
Speaker 1: After a great deal of consideration, I've decided not to
35:39
Speaker 1: return to the daily commitment of the morning show. This
35:42
Speaker 1: wasn't an easy decision because I care deeply about KJR,
35:45
Speaker 1: the Morning Show and the listeners who've been part of
35:47
Speaker 1: this journey. Grateful to the station for their support and
35:49
Speaker 1: willingness to work through this process with me. We're continuing
35:52
Speaker 1: to explore ways I can remain involved with KJR in
35:55
Speaker 1: a capacity to the benefits my life and priorities today,
35:58
Speaker 1: and I'm looking forward to seeing where those conversations lead.
36:00
Speaker 1: So that was Bucky's statement through KJR on Friday, and
36:04
Speaker 1: so yes, Chalkingbuck Radio program is coming to an end.
36:08
Speaker 1: We're hoping to keep Bucky in some capacity as part
36:11
Speaker 1: of the show and as part of the station. It's
36:13
Speaker 1: working on that behind the scenes. But obviously that face
36:16
Speaker 1: is going to change a little bit, and it just
36:18
Speaker 1: feels appropriate when we've retired the old Judge gavel and
36:23
Speaker 1: now we need to retire the green Jacket. So I'm
36:27
Speaker 1: going to continue to do basically the exact same bit,
36:30
Speaker 1: but we're going to call it the something that I
36:34
Speaker 1: used to call. We used to do this thing called
36:37
Speaker 1: the Showdown, okay, and so we're going to bring that back.
36:40
Speaker 1: And we had a trophy made not long ago.
36:43
Speaker 2: It was a large trophy.
36:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we'll end up doing something with this, Okay,
36:48
Speaker 1: still going to be the same premise, but no more
36:50
Speaker 1: green jacket. It's the Showdown again, and the Showdown trophy
36:54
Speaker 1: will be awarded, so the bit's not going to go away.
36:57
Speaker 1: But it just feels to me, Ashley, and you're leaving
37:00
Speaker 1: us at the nine o'clock hour, yeah, so you're not
37:03
Speaker 1: going to not permanently, no, just for the day, just
37:06
Speaker 1: for the day. So it just felt to me like
37:09
Speaker 1: it was time to retire the Green Jacket today.
37:12
Speaker 2: I think it's I think that's a good call too,
37:14
Speaker 2: because I mean, you know, it's just it's not the
37:17
Speaker 2: same anymore. So rather than try to fit something into
37:21
Speaker 2: the box we had, let's move on to a new box.
37:24
Speaker 1: A new box, a new box. It's gonna be the
37:26
Speaker 1: same bit, right, but different people.
37:28
Speaker 2: Feels it feels appropriate to kind of close it, yep,
37:32
Speaker 2: and then start again.
37:34
Speaker 1: Yeah all right, yeah, and it also feels appropriate that
37:37
Speaker 1: I won the last.
37:38
Speaker 2: Of course it does. That part sucks. I don't like it.
37:42
Speaker 1: Well, now that the official numbers are in, you did
37:44
Speaker 1: finish second, and our five year history of the Green
37:47
Speaker 1: Jacket draft, yes you did.
37:49
Speaker 2: I'll take that.
37:50
Speaker 1: And Bucky and Kid finished Tide, which kind of also filed.
37:53
Speaker 2: It feels actually really frighteningly appropriate.
37:56
Speaker 1: So nobody finished last. They just finished tied for third.
38:00
Speaker 1: That's the way.
38:00
Speaker 2: I like that kind of make.
38:02
Speaker 1: And Spencer won one.
38:04
Speaker 2: There you go, good job, little buddy, little seven foot buddy.
38:09
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly so. And Anders won one. He actually won two,
38:13
Speaker 1: but he was drafting for somebody else.
38:14
Speaker 2: He was lafting for me.
38:15
Speaker 1: He was like two for two.
38:17
Speaker 2: He shared one with me. We did the NFL draft
38:20
Speaker 2: last year. Yeah, yeah, we dominated that.
38:22
Speaker 1: Damn Anders, damn he might have the magic touch on
38:25
Speaker 1: this ever. Let him play again. Although he did just
38:27
Speaker 1: no two for three because he lost the soccer one.
38:30
Speaker 2: It didn't even win the thing.
38:31
Speaker 1: He knows loser. Yeah, So anyway, I just wanted to
38:35
Speaker 1: take some time. Obviously, we're gonna have to update you
38:37
Speaker 1: on the bucket situation. Not everybody heard Friday and not everybody,
38:41
Speaker 1: uh found out about it over the weekend, and so
38:43
Speaker 1: part of this was just reminding you of what's going
38:46
Speaker 1: on Station News. Also, you know, we'll pay some tributes.
38:50
Speaker 1: It'll sprinkle them in as we participate in this transition
38:55
Speaker 1: from what we were to what we're going to become
38:58
Speaker 1: here in the mornings. And part of that for me
39:00
Speaker 1: was retiring the green jacket here today.
39:03
Speaker 2: That was a good thing to do.
39:04
Speaker 1: So there you go all right, well, Ashley, you enjoy
39:08
Speaker 1: the rest of your day. Jesson's going to step in
39:10
Speaker 1: for the final hour, and really all she has to
39:13
Speaker 1: do is call Andie Mintink and Jackson Feltz for me. No,
39:15
Speaker 1: Jackson's coming in, Oh just has to call Andrew Mintink
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Speaker 1: for me.
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